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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: the Falcons Final Whistle Podcast, presented by Zaxby's. I'm Scott

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Speaker 1: alongside Tory and Tara, and we are coming to you

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Speaker 1: after a dramatic Falcons victory, yet another walk off field

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Speaker 1: goal ass time expired for Young Waiku to secure a

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Speaker 1: sixteen to thirteen victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at

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Speaker 1: Raymond James Stadium. The Falcons are now four and three.

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Speaker 1: Fun fact, then I'm sure everyone knows. They are also

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Speaker 1: in sole possession of the first place in the NFC South,

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Speaker 1: which is meaningful, but not really because it's only week seven.

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Speaker 1: You want to be there in week eighteen. Nonetheless, we're

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Speaker 1: going to break down this game for everybody and also

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Speaker 1: take a look at what's got to get better because

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Speaker 1: the way they played today they would lose most of

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Speaker 1: the time. And by the way that they play, I'm

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Speaker 1: referring to three lost fumbles with goal to go that's

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Speaker 1: normally a recipe for big trouble, but they found a

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Speaker 1: way to overcome. They fought, they stuck through it and

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Speaker 1: Desmond Rider throwed it through an absolute strike to Kyle

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Speaker 1: Pitts to set up KU's game winner. So let's try

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Speaker 1: to break all this stuff down right here. Nobody's only

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Speaker 1: awarding half credit for a win, right A wins A

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Speaker 1: win's a win, But this one felt kind of strange afterward.

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Speaker 2: I agree, And again, we got to stop with these

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Speaker 2: fourth quarters. I mean, y'all are putting me to the

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Speaker 2: buzzer every time.

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Speaker 1: Falcons stress levels high.

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Speaker 2: But you hear about the three turnovers and the lost fumbles,

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Speaker 2: and you're just like, how did they win it with that?

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Speaker 2: But it's because the defense kept the Buccaneers offense off

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Speaker 2: the field. They kept doing their job when Atlanta's offense

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Speaker 2: could not, So so you got to give credit where

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Speaker 2: credit is due there. I don't know how it would

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Speaker 2: have shook out if the well, okay, I definitely know

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Speaker 2: how it would have shaken out. If the Buccaneers cashed

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Speaker 2: in on any of those turnovers, they would have won.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, those are three opportunities they missed, which

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Speaker 2: just gave the Falcons a better opportunity to win, if

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Speaker 2: that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean Tampa Bay had first and

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Speaker 1: goal from eight and had to settle for a field goal,

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Speaker 1: which set up the end of this game. And I

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Speaker 1: think that you bring up a really good point here.

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Speaker 1: The defense stood tall time and time again. It was

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Speaker 1: pretty impressive, especially as they went down the stretch. They

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Speaker 1: forced to take aways and obviously got a huge stop

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Speaker 1: there in the fourth quarter. Tory, what are your thoughts

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that when and I apologize if I'm

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Speaker 3: saying something that Teraren.

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Speaker 4: Has already said.

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Speaker 3: My WiFi cut out, so I have no idea what

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Speaker 3: her answer was, so exact same thing minds think alike. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so something that I'm actually going to dive into a

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Speaker 3: little bit in my notebook on Monday, which probably if

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Speaker 3: you're listening to this means that it's already out, so

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Speaker 3: go and actually read it. But I'm really thinking about

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Speaker 3: how a couple of weeks ago, I was really kind

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Speaker 3: of critical about this offense and how I didn't think

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Speaker 3: that it was fun, explosive, exciting, all the things that

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Speaker 3: Arthur Smith kind of said he wanted it to be,

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Speaker 3: and what I felt like this offense was advertised as

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Speaker 3: in training camp, and I feel like over the last

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Speaker 3: three weeks we are seeing a.

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Speaker 4: More fun, explosive and exciting offense.

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Speaker 3: In the last three weeks, they've had over four hundred

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Speaker 3: yards of net offense, however, and it's a big however because,

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Speaker 3: like I said not too long ago, it's it's almost

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Speaker 3: like it doesn't matter how many total yards you have.

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Speaker 4: I'm going back to a DNPS. Is doesn't matter how

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Speaker 4: many yards you give up.

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Speaker 3: If you're not scoring any touchdowns or you're not giving

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Speaker 3: up any touchdowns, then that's what you know.

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Speaker 4: Then you're doing all right. You're kind of a.

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Speaker 3: Bend don't break in this offensive terms to go out

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Speaker 3: in the last three games and have over four hundred

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Speaker 3: yards of offense and then two today only score sixteen

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Speaker 3: I mean that it all kind of just feels like

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Speaker 3: a moot point. But I do think that there is

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Speaker 3: reason to be hopeful. And I say that with kind

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Speaker 3: of like a dot dot dot, because it can only

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Speaker 3: be hopeful when the Falcons are not turning the ball over.

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Speaker 3: When they are turning the ball over, you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: games like this where it is so hard to win

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Speaker 3: these games when you are consistently turning the ball over

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Speaker 4: It's like, this offense has shown that it it can

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Speaker 3: To watch, but it doesn't matter until you take care

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Speaker 3: I think flustered in at Warworth myself about feeling like

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Speaker 3: this offense is progressing, but then seeing them turn the

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Speaker 4: Of like actual points on the board.

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Speaker 3: So this is an offense that I think in the

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Speaker 3: last three weeks has contended with somebody like Miami in

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Speaker 3: terms of how many yards they are gaining throughout the

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Speaker 4: Of four quarters.

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Speaker 3: In the last three weeks, they're not putting up sixty

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Speaker 3: points though, because they're turning the ball over, and that

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Speaker 3: needs to change.

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Speaker 2: It needs to change, dude. It's crazy. Word for word,

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Speaker 2: you said exactly what I did exactly.

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Speaker 1: It was actually like, I mean, they've turned the ball

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Speaker 1: over eight times in the last three games, and in

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Speaker 1: the last three games, egg yikes, the Falcons are two

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Speaker 1: and one, and I think Taron brought up a really

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Speaker 1: right on, like on the three fumbles, one in the

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Speaker 1: second quarter fumble end of half, so the Tampa didn't

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Speaker 1: score there. They fumbled again in the third quarter and

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Speaker 1: that led to a punt, and then the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield threw a pick Richie Grant got the ball

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Speaker 1: right back. If those things, the one advantage, if you

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Speaker 1: can look at it this way, is that when you're

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Speaker 1: turning the ball over, I like the one. They have

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Speaker 1: a long field, right And this defense has proven consistent enough, like, look,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna give up some first downs, but I think

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Speaker 1: that but not over a ninety yard drive, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I think this defense has been really good. The

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Speaker 1: So I think this defense is something that can be

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Speaker 1: found national moving forward. But as I wrote in my call,

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Speaker 1: man it, winning this way is not sustainable. Winning this

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Speaker 1: recipe for five hundred football right, And they've been hovering

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Speaker 1: around that the last two years, seven to ten. If

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna cut it. And I

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Speaker 1: think ultimately they're gonna have to get these things figured out.

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Speaker 1: Now what did everybody make of I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: Jake Matthew said it. Arthur Smith said it's like winning

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Speaker 1: his heart in this league. We're not gonna give it away.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna take half credit because some things didn't

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Speaker 1: go right. And I do think that that's true. But

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Speaker 1: I think even reading Desmond Ridder's transcript that he acknowledges

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Speaker 1: protect the football at all costs, he's not doing a

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Speaker 1: good enough job of that right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that, you know, I'll give

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Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay defense the first fumble, I thought that

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Speaker 4: It pops out football play. Whatever the.

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Speaker 3: Problem with the snap exchange at the one that that's worrisome.

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Speaker 3: And then of course as he's going in for a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: And loses the ball out the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 3: I mean even he was kind of like, Yep, that's

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Speaker 3: ball better. I mean, when you look at it, are

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Speaker 3: all the turnovers that the Falcons have sustained and accumulated

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Speaker 3: over the last three weeks, Desmond Ridder's fault and Desmond

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Speaker 3: Ridder's fault alone.

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Speaker 4: No, it's just not like you go back even.

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Speaker 3: To the Texans game, even though they won that game,

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Speaker 3: Desmond Rider played as good as I think we've seen

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Speaker 3: him play all year, and the Falcons still lost the

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Speaker 3: ball on two fumbles that were from I believe John

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Speaker 3: Newsmith and Bjon Robinson not you know, don't want to catch.

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Speaker 4: Any strays there. But it's just the reality.

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Speaker 3: And then I do think that there were a lot

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Speaker 3: two of those interceptions that doesn't order through. But so

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Speaker 3: it's not we can't just say that this is all

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Speaker 3: be better and taking care of the ball. Yes, but

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Speaker 3: at with this being his like eleventh game in the league,

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Speaker 3: even in that, I think that the Falcons are really

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Speaker 3: what I was saying before, from being a team that

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Speaker 3: I believe is can be a good contender against some

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Speaker 3: in the that's in turnovers, every other statistical category. I

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Speaker 3: Corderill Patterson looked like what they did in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: hope that the not so good, which is this this

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Speaker 3: one thing about turnovers, can be can be fixed, because

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Speaker 3: I do think this is a very very different team

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Speaker 3: without those turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think things come in threes. They did the

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Speaker 2: three interceptions, the three fumbles, like what's an X There

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Speaker 2: isn't another turnover option?

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Speaker 1: I mean three touchdowns. I think they would definitely take

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Speaker 1: and as we're looking at this run game, right, they

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Speaker 1: ran the ball thirty eight times for a round fifty

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Speaker 2: Robinson and I would say without Yeah he had one carry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had one carry, one touch. Kind of dealing

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Speaker 1: with some issues that that Taran wrote about those games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in the locker room afterward and he

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Speaker 2: owned up to the fact that he had a lingering headache.

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Speaker 2: It started Saturday night and just bled in severely into Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And it was never a question whether or not he

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Speaker 2: you have a debate just being inactive, and he's like, no,

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Speaker 2: Like we were going to warm up, see how I feel,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But even during those warm ups,

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Speaker 2: he's like, I'm not it's not getting better, it's not alleviating,

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Speaker 2: We've said before that, but Jean Robinson kind of just

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Speaker 2: Cardero Patterson is a rhino. I haven't seen that boy

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Speaker 1: You're right up to the front, right up to the front. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like right, top ten point exactly, Yeah, my point exactly,

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Speaker 4: Very first week, Correct me people if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: But after that he said that, but after that, he's

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Speaker 2: Hi,