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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Friday ed issue of Texans All Access

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Speaker 2: on what is probably gonna be a rainy Memorial Day weekend,

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Speaker 2: but hopefully you got enough in on Friday. It was

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Speaker 2: beautiful for a long time on Friday, so hopefully it

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Speaker 2: stays that way for you. But it does sound like

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Speaker 2: we're all going to be swimming in it this weekend.

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Speaker 2: But y'all stay safe, have a great Memorial Day weekend,

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Speaker 2: starting by listening to us and to me, your host,

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Speaker 2: John Harris, Football on a sideline reporter for your Houston Texans,

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Speaker 2: Nick SCHUKOVNFL dot com had an article about make or

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Speaker 2: break players in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: A Texan was mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Mark and Ibel discuss that a little bit later in

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Speaker 2: the show, but we got a few things to do

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Speaker 2: before we get there, including starting with a little bit

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Speaker 2: of news about your Houston Texans. Aaron Wilson reported this

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Speaker 2: earlier today. Texans veteran linebacker Ejspeed partially tour quad and

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Speaker 2: tendons while training, gonna have surgery next week. He is

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Speaker 2: expected back at some point this season. But you talk

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Speaker 2: about it kicking a junk on a Friday to well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it could happen anytime.

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Speaker 1: But man, that is just ah.

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Speaker 2: I was so happy with EJ coming back, and you

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Speaker 2: had Henry Toatoya, you had a ziz Al Schier, you

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Speaker 2: had those two. You lock up disease with his contract.

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Speaker 2: You drafted Wade Wood as you drafted Aiden Fisher, but

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Speaker 2: you had aj Speed in a holster, you had the vet.

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Speaker 2: He knows his defense, he was great on special teams,

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Speaker 2: and now you're gonna be without him for seemingly a

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Speaker 2: stretch at a time. So Aaron Wilson is reporting that

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Speaker 2: he is expected back at some point this season as

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Speaker 2: he got injured during training. So hate seeing that about

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Speaker 2: your Texans. And I know a guy that would feel

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Speaker 2: the same way because obviously J Speed has such an

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Speaker 2: impact on special teams.

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Speaker 1: That's Frank Ross.

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Speaker 2: We had a chance to sit down with coach yesterday

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Speaker 2: and discuss an event he's got coming up that I

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Speaker 2: think is one of the great events.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that it's a coach.

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Speaker 2: For the Houston Texans that has put this together and

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Speaker 2: it is given back to the community, giving back to

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Speaker 2: the city, giving back to people that are struggling in

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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form, is just fantastic and that's

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Speaker 2: Frank Ross. Frank Ross, the absolute best there is. We

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Speaker 2: sat down with Frank discussed Coaches Cuts which is coming up,

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Speaker 2: and Special Teams things going on with twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: including the year Kaymie Fairbairn had in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: In the Hunday Texans Radio studio with us it's Special

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Speaker 3: Teams coordinator Frank Ross.

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Speaker 1: How's it going, coach, see you guys, excited to be here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, It's always great to have you visit and your

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Speaker 3: Special Teams coordinator and doing something special again every year

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Speaker 3: you do this. This is the fifth year Coaches Cuts

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Speaker 3: and it's always evolving, changing, getting better.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me and allowing me to speak on it.

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Speaker 4: It's our proudly our fifth annual Haircuts for the Homeless

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Speaker 4: and we are an official five oh one C three

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Speaker 4: this year. So we we're growing, we're expanding, small idea

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Speaker 4: turned what I think is great now. But we're doing

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Speaker 4: our fifth annual major event which every years has changed

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Speaker 1: This year we're going to be going.

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Speaker 4: Over to Saint Joe's Catholic Church which is edge of

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Speaker 4: course the major element of haircuts, and I'll be having

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Speaker 4: the shares out and ripping and running and proud, very

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Speaker 1: It's gotten to today. Dayton time.

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Speaker 4: We are Friday, June fifth, being that kind of early afternoon,

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Speaker 4: I think we have a twelve to ten Mass and

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Speaker 4: do a wonderful job, a big social ministry over there.

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Speaker 4: They just believe in in at Saint Joe's. They believe

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Speaker 4: to be a great place. And they they do a

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Speaker 4: They do unbelievable things for our town. And so we're

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Speaker 4: just right in the church parking lot there, Coach, when

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Speaker 4: the people.

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Speaker 2: Find out that you were giving a haircut too, and

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Speaker 2: Do many of them have that realization at some point

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, and and you're and you're cutting their hair.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think it's I do like, I

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Speaker 1: Like why I'm asking that's very unique? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I I try to lead, I try to live my life.

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Speaker 4: I tried to do everything. You know, man, can we

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Speaker 4: And I believe that a haircut is the ultimate, you know,

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Speaker 4: view of service. You know, you're helping another and you're

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Speaker 4: I happen to be a football coach. It might be

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Speaker 4: a unique situation. I just hope whoever sit in my

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 3: Well, you started this cutting hair, but quickly you realized

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Speaker 3: I can make a difference in people's lives.

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Speaker 1: And how special is that? Coach? Yeah, thanks for asking

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be at the root of everything, like can

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Speaker 4: you make someone feel better? It just so happens to

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Speaker 4: be that we like to cut hair, and we have

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Speaker 4: an opportunity, a platform as a Houston Texans organization and

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Speaker 4: kind of creates a special atmosphere. And look, we go

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Speaker 4: down to some places. We do multiple events the year.

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Speaker 4: My wife and I have been at the Women's and

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Speaker 1: We've been it.

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Speaker 4: You know, we'll walk up under a bridge and just

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Speaker 4: we're just how can we make anybody feel better? And

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Speaker 4: it is unique when something's happening and it's a special day.

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Speaker 4: People that don't get a lot of extraordinary experiences. They

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Speaker 4: There's a lights, camera action, and it's fun. And I

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Speaker 1: That are that need some good in their life.

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Speaker 2: Frank, do you have players, whether special teamers or not,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And and it's been just such an honor to

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Speaker 4: But you know guys who have been through real struggles

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Speaker 1: You know mine is nothing like you is.

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Speaker 4: But just to watch somebody come out of that type

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Speaker 4: And then man, just just observe. Just people watch watch disease,

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Speaker 4: It is going through something in life that's hard, and

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Speaker 4: it's just powerful. It is powerful. All the guys that

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Speaker 4: guys knew that. Yeah, yeah, this is I'm working on this.

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Speaker 4: we're we're we're a team sport. We get to provide

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Speaker 1: Coach.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people look at situations, the homeless situation,

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Speaker 3: whatever it may be, and the whole thing seems so perplexing.

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Speaker 3: How important is it to do something? You started doing

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Speaker 3: something very tangible, and it can turn into a globe thing.

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Speaker 3: Really when you help a few people, in this case,

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Speaker 4: Over the years, Vandy, you make it sound so regal

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Speaker 4: and so cool. I appreciate that. I look, we all

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Speaker 4: this and that. Man, everybody, if everybody in our town,

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Speaker 4: let's just start in Houston. If we all just rolled

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Speaker 4: doing that. I enjoy it. I think other people. It

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Speaker 4: Hopefully some other people would be willing to experience that

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Speaker 1: So so Coach on same level, but kind of a

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Speaker 2: We had Megan Ohnlin in here last week and she's

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Speaker 2: because it's part of their routine or it's part of

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Speaker 2: I went out and had three catches in a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I gotta keep going to coach every time I need

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Speaker 2: a haircut. Do you have you have people in this

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Speaker 4: We gotta get some We gotta get some of those

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Speaker 4: that my most regular customer. I don't know if if

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Speaker 4: this is a client privilege here, but you know, Casario

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Speaker 1: Will give him a draft doing well, So let's keep going.

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Speaker 1: We give him a draft cut. I just I just

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Speaker 4: I like to view myself as the most convenient cut

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Speaker 4: in the country because you get off the practice field. Hey, Frank,

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Speaker 4: we got whether it's Friday night, it's date night, but

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Speaker 4: we're getting on an away plane and it's like Saturday morning,

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 4: So you're kind of everything's in the one stop shop

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Speaker 4: in the locker room, but the ambiance is not that

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Speaker 4: you know, locker room for people changing and some you know.

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Speaker 1: That's a big active service, right, very much so.

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Speaker 4: But final question with that is a good tipper. I

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Speaker 4: know we didn't all free of charge. We don't take anything.

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Speaker 4: You don't take pay forward.

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Speaker 3: Coach out of the practice field this time of year,

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Speaker 3: what's important regarding special teams and learning everything? Because we

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Speaker 3: a preseason game. I know you have your special teams period,

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Speaker 4: Well said, the word is foundation, and you know a

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Speaker 4: We've had some knifing plays against us, and man, I

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Speaker 2: Frank, as you get into the season, you talk about it.

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Speaker 4: The subject matters football and I love it. I love

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Speaker 3: In recent years, every time there's a kickoff, I feel

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Speaker 3: so you tell us, is it gonna change again this year?

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Speaker 4: In totality, it's mostly what we know it from the

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Speaker 4: They're going to allow more players off the main line

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Speaker 1: It's assessed on the kickoff. Where do we kick from?

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Speaker 4: So the rules slightly changed there. What we did was said, hey,

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Speaker 1: So if you're at the fifty.

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Speaker 1: Everybody confused at the time what was going on.

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Speaker 4: It didn't have me confused, I know exact everybody else confused.

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Speaker 4: And the look on your face, I knew, I knew

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of clarified.

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Speaker 4: Where you can kick a touch back to the twenty

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Speaker 2: Ago coach, the longest tenure Texan, this guy named Kymie Fairbarn.

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Speaker 2: I think you've heard of him, Like I remember when

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Speaker 2: And he obviously got paid her thoughts about what Kaymi

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Speaker 4: He put the mental work in. We're all at a

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Speaker 4: And he's put the mental work in. I'm so proud.

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Speaker 4: Like that's it puts it at ease when you have

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Speaker 3: One more for you, for me, the rookies, the young

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Speaker 3: to you, right, this is very important. And when we

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Speaker 3: I'm in special teams. Let's go great attitude coming in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just whatever you set you got to prove

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Speaker 4: it every day. I'm here to prove myself to you

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Speaker 4: You proven yourself to me as your teammate. You proven

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Speaker 4: yourself to your coach. So it's a stack. You have

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Speaker 4: say it on draft night. You got to come in.

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Speaker 1: And do it. What a group. What a group.

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Speaker 4: Super excited to this point, But I also proud to

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Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, entry level job. Where is it?

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Speaker 4: Fourth downand's rundownans to cover some kicks, Let's strain and

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Speaker 3: Outstanding coach once again coaches cuts Saint Joe's Catholic Church,

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Speaker 4: Be June fifth, Friday, June fifth, outstanding, Yeah please if

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Speaker 1: This is uh, you know, it's.

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Speaker 4: A growing family in a way, all the barbers that

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Speaker 1: That's been an amazing response.

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Speaker 4: And obviously financial contributions. People have done such an amazing job.

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Speaker 3: Coach rosscuts dot Com the website. Coach thanks so much

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Speaker 3: Thank you, good to see you guys, Thank gat to

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Speaker 2: You know, we spend a lot of the draft time

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Speaker 2: the coaching staff is the same way. It's the exact

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Speaker 2: It's just great what he's doing for the city of Houston,

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Speaker 2: the un housed here in Houston. To do what he's

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Speaker 2: done is just an amazing, amazing thing. On top of

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Speaker 2: the fact that his special teams are really freaking good,

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Speaker 2: including Kaymie Fairbairn. Now quarterback for your Houston Texans football

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Speaker 2: squad is one CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud.

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Speaker 2: Nick Shook of NFL dot Com mentioned CJ as one

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Speaker 2: of eleven players in a make or break season? Is

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Speaker 2: that accurate? Mark and I will discuss next right here

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Speaker 2: in Texans All Access. Welcome back to this Friday edition

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: Mark I saw this.

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Speaker 2: I want to say, this was either Thursday night or

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Speaker 2: Friday morning. I saw this article, and I was curious.

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Speaker 2: I was curious your thoughts because I think when the

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Speaker 2: words make or break are used, I think it can

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Speaker 2: be misconstrewed a lot of times. I think some people

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Speaker 2: look at it as kind of the you know, the

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Speaker 2: ultimatum of well, if doesnet happen, then it's never gonna happen,

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Speaker 2: and so you got to cut bait and move on.

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Speaker 1: And here's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: Nick Shuk NFL dot Com came up with eleven people

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. It just has eleven individuals at a crossroads,

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Speaker 2: and he called them make or break players in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Ah, and there is a Texan on there. Now,

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Speaker 2: let me give you the other names that are on

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Speaker 2: this list. Keon Coleman, Buffalo Bills. We all know what

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Speaker 2: happened with the Pagoulas Terry Pegoula at the press conference

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Speaker 2: that announced brand Bean as the GM and executive vice

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Speaker 2: president for the Bills. So Key Coleman, There's no question

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Speaker 2: Bryce young Panthers quarterback. Now, he's taken some strides each

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Speaker 2: and every year he's gotten better and better. Led the

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Speaker 2: Panthers to the playoffs, battled the Rams in a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Make or Break yere both Vikings quarterbacks, J J. McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, both of them. George Pickens wide receiver, Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior agreed a former Texans quarterback Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson interesting, Kaemon Thibodeau the New York Giants, Miles

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Speaker 2: Murphy defensive end for the Bengals, Michael Pennix junior for

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. And who is the current Texan on

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Speaker 2: this Make or Break list?

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Speaker 6: Well, they probably have CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud on the list if correct. Yeah, that is correct?

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Speaker 2: All right, here's what Shook says about Stroud. Get your

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Speaker 2: thoughts about does Make or Break really applied to CJ?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Or no?

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Speaker 2: This is what Shook says, and that quote when the

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Speaker 2: clock struck zerre on Stroud's worst performances career in Houston's

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Speaker 2: Division Round lost in New England, his fantastic award winning

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Speaker 2: rookie campaign felt agan happened eons ago.

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Speaker 1: This is now Stroud's reality.

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Speaker 2: Instead of being considered one of the young faces of

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Speaker 2: the NFL's future under center, the twenty four year old's

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Speaker 2: long term plans are largely on hold for now. Texans

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Speaker 2: have done nothing but express confidence in your franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 2: but in the last two years Stroud has struggled.

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Speaker 1: To consistently justify their faith in him.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four season could be chalked up to Stroud being

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Speaker 2: forced to play beyond a porest line, but the same

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Speaker 2: excuse wasn't nearly as reasonable.

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Speaker 1: As twenty twenty five. Adding his melt is for pick.

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Speaker 2: Meltdown Foxborough and yet in a Texans campaign in Division

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Speaker 2: Round and Houston can't help but wander them to club

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Speaker 2: if the club is stuck in Neutral, continued on, saying

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Speaker 2: about it's up to Strada if the Texans, out of

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Speaker 2: purgatory circumstances surrounding mark the best tank Dell's significant injury

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Speaker 2: cross him all twenty five and he's still an uncertain

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Speaker 2: timeline return, but ultimately this job will fall on Shroud's

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Speaker 2: shoulders make or break twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: CJ. Stroud?

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with Nick Schuck? First of all, do

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Speaker 2: you agree with what he expressed in what he said

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Speaker 2: in his article about CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud?

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Speaker 3: Well, I feel, Johnny that the regular seasons, when you

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Speaker 3: just look at them, look at the numbers, look at

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Speaker 3: the results, he's really good, Johnny. I mean, look, I

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Speaker 3: know the rookie season was historically good, but if all

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Speaker 3: he did was put together twenty four and twenty five,

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Speaker 3: just those numbers and those results, we'd be really encouraged

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Speaker 3: about CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud.

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Speaker 3: I think the rookie season was so stratospherically amazing that

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Speaker 3: it's really hard to live up to and you're wondering,

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Speaker 3: wait a minute, can he get there? But the bottom

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Speaker 3: line is this, it's the New England game. Because even

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh game when that occurred, and that was a

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Speaker 3: very short week for us and for the team, say

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Speaker 3: for us, because it's all about us, Johnny talking about

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Speaker 3: the team, and my gosh, we were on the air

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Speaker 3: every day but our narrative that week, at least mine,

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Speaker 3: was yeah, that was tough. We had the fumbles, we

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Speaker 3: had some bad snaps, we had some situations in the

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Speaker 3: backfield that were not good. But within the course of

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Speaker 3: the game, I thought he came through that made some

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Speaker 3: throws toward the end, got out of there. I know

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Speaker 3: the defense exploded in the fourth quarter, but the offense

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Speaker 3: added a score.

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Speaker 1: It was good.

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Speaker 3: So I felt like, Okay, we're good. Now, we're good

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Speaker 3: with CJ going into New England. But then New England

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Speaker 3: was so perplexing. That was one of those perplexing performances.

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Speaker 3: So not him, so uncharacteristic of him. So I think

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Speaker 3: everybody wants to see it now. They want to see

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Speaker 3: it in twenty six. They want to see him erase

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Speaker 3: that we want to get that taste out of our mouths.

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Speaker 3: But the other thing is we want to see it

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Speaker 3: in the postseason. So he could have a really good

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Speaker 3: or solid regular season, but it's all gonna be about

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Speaker 3: the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Is that a make or break postseason for Stroud?

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Speaker 6: And it might be. It might be because the team

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Speaker 6: is so.

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Speaker 3: Loaded in other positions, especially on the defensive side of

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Speaker 3: the ball, that you're thinking, can it happen in the

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Speaker 3: postseason again? And if it does the bad stuff, where

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Speaker 3: are you going into twenty twenty seven. So in that way,

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Speaker 3: I could buy it. I could buy make or break.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are professional athletes. They know what's

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Speaker 3: on the line. I just don't think it's gonna break.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna make, and I think he's gonna

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Speaker 3: be much more solid. I think that that performance at

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Speaker 3: New England was so bizarrely different from everything else he's done.

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Speaker 3: And I know you've had some some moments here and

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Speaker 3: there and again in the Pittsburgh game too, But let's

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Speaker 3: just see what twenty twenty six brings, shall we. So

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Speaker 3: in that way, I do agree with it Johnny, that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: postseason could be a make or break. But I think

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Speaker 3: that he's gonna be fine. I think he showed that

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Speaker 3: consistently enough, and this team should be better up front

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Speaker 3: running game at CETA, and we're gonna see it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one thing that stood out to me, and I

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Speaker 2: thought about this after the fact. Let me read you

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Speaker 2: these numbers just real quick. Twenty three of forty seven.

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Speaker 2: I'll do the math for you. That's forty nine percent

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Speaker 2: for two hundred and thirty seven passing yards, a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: four interceptions, thirty five point five passer rating. Now those

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Speaker 2: are the numbers of Peyton Manning in Peyton Manning's first

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Speaker 2: trip to New England in the playoffs in the two

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Speaker 2: thousand and three AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 6: Oh, that's well into its career, and that's well into it.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three of forty seven, forty eight point nine percent,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty seven passing yards, one touchdown, four interceptions,

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Speaker 2: thirty five point five rating. And and Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark,

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Speaker 2: and Marvin Harrison Senior all on the field. Geez for

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Speaker 2: Peyton Manning that day. Oh and a certain running back

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Speaker 2: named Edrin James too.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're talking Hall of famer Harrison, hall of

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Speaker 3: famer James. You're talking Reggie Wayne almost a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: You're talking a loaded team, and Manning himself a Hall

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Speaker 3: of famer. And that's year five for Peyton Manning and

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Speaker 3: he does that in New England. Now, to be fair,

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Speaker 3: Manny was feeling the heat and hearing all about it

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Speaker 3: all off season long, and it was the postseason. Manning

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Speaker 3: took a lot of heat until six when he finally

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Speaker 3: got the Super Bowl. It wasn't like complete bus but

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Speaker 3: it was, hey, are you ever going to do this

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Speaker 3: the way we think you can? Are you going to

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Speaker 3: be one of the great ones? Or just a tip

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Speaker 3: top regular season quarterback playing in a mostly bad division.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't say that because Steve McNair was co MVP

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Speaker 3: and O three and look, the Titans were really good

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Speaker 3: when Manny came into the league. So all right, never

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Speaker 3: mind about that, but are you going to take advantage

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Speaker 3: of all your skills and be great? And also, by

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Speaker 3: the way, AFC South which used to be the AFC

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Speaker 3: Central Johnny side note here, you know how we have

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Speaker 3: some young people in the building who are not seasoned

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Speaker 3: in this league, which is fine. I mean, it's you know,

612
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Speaker 3: the young lings come up and this is it. But

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Speaker 3: somebody asked me what's the AFC Central? And I was like,

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Speaker 3: sit down by the fire, kids, and I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: all about the AFC Central and the NFC Central and

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Speaker 3: the imbalance of the divisions. Never mind, but yeah, it

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Speaker 3: was tough for Manning with the division early on Central

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Speaker 3: and then the early days of the AFC South, the

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Speaker 3: vapors of Mark Brunel and the good Jacksonville Jaguars back

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Speaker 3: in the day. But yeah, Manny was feeling the heat.

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Speaker 3: He was hearing all about it, just like CJ's hearing

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Speaker 3: about it today. The ending is not yet written.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: CJ's played three years in this league, and I like

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Speaker 3: the way he throws the football.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be just fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A couple very interesting things about Manning. The very

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Speaker 2: next playoff game we had was against Denver in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: He goes twenty seven to thirty three for four fifty eight,

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Speaker 2: four touchdowns. Then he goes back to New England. Second year,

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Speaker 2: going back to New England, twenty seven of forty two,

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Speaker 2: two thirty eight no touchdowns, interception is sixty nine rating.

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Speaker 1: So again New England got him again.

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Speaker 2: And you're right, there was a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 2: Peyton Manning at that point.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of pressure. You know, I see

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Speaker 1: the guy.

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Speaker 2: He had won MVPs at that point, Mark, what I

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Speaker 2: think is fascinating, even more so once they won it

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00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: in two thousand and six, they struggled down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: Texans beat him on Was it Christmas Eve or chriss

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Speaker 2: Eve right. Yeah, yeah, down the stretch they really struggled.

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Speaker 2: They played, so they got the they went into the

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Speaker 2: wildcard round, they won the four games, they finally beat

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Speaker 2: New England, kind of vanquished New England. They did it

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, so there's, you know, there's something to consider.

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Speaker 2: And he had a decent game statistically against New England.

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Speaker 2: Kind of he was twenty seven to forty seven, which

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Speaker 2: is well under sixty percent, but he did throw for

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Speaker 2: three hundred and forty nine yards. But I find fascinating

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Speaker 2: is in four playoff games and Super Bowls that year

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Speaker 2: that they won a championship, he threw a combined three.

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Speaker 1: Touchdowns all the while, all the while.

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Speaker 2: Throwing seven interceptions in those playoff games. So I mean

655
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: he was first game, one touchdown, three interceptions against the Chiefs,

656
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: then he threw no touchdowns to two interceptions against the Ravens,

657
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: and then he was won and one, one and one

658
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: in the ANFC Championship and the Super Bowl, got his ring,

659
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: and then everybody kind of backed off and went, well,

660
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: you know, he's got his ring.

661
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: Okay, he's a made man. Now.

662
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: I guess at that particular point he's one of the

663
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: greatest quarterbacks all the time, don't get me wrong, but

664
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: I bring him up because he did struggle in New England,

665
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: and he did take some heat, and he did eventually

666
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: bounce back and win playoff games, and he eventually did

667
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: beat New England, And I think CJ is definitely made

668
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: of that stuff to bounce back and have that retribution game,

669
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: whatever it might be, in a playoffs. I was a

670
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: little I was frustrated when we came back from Pittsburgh

671
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: and everybody talked about and discussed how, you know, how

672
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: poorly CJ played against Pittsburgh, And I kind of bristled

673
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: at that mark because I was not of that mindset.

674
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: I thought CJ made really good throws in crunch time.

675
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: I mean to throw that he had coming out of

676
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: our end zone to Christian Kirk at the beginning at

677
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: the end of the third quarter, which led to a

678
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: field goal at the beginning of the fourth, was one

679
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: of the better throws he had all day long. He

680
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: made a couple other throws in that game, I think,

681
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: just because the last thing we saw from him being

682
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: that Patriots game, and the last thing people nationally saw

683
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: of him was that Patriots game. And for a lot

684
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 2: of people nationally that's the only game they watched of

685
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: CJ all year long, and it was a very easy

686
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: narrative to kind of slide into and kind of go

687
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: along with that. Yes, make or break, Okay, I understand,

688
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: but if you watched in twenty twenty four, you realized

689
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: what he was up against in twenty twenty four an

690
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: offensive line that didn't protect him very.

691
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: Well at all.

692
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five, the run game was good in spots,

693
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 2: but when he was protected well. The forty nine Ers game,

694
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: he tore a really good defense to shreds. The Chiefs game,

695
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: the number of throws he made. You know, I've been

696
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: going back and watching from basically mid season on and

697
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: watching those games again, and I've just watched CJ makes

698
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: some just brilliant throws. Yeah, there are a few he

699
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,479
Speaker 2: wants back. And the Patriots game, Yes, want it all back.

700
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: I tend to agree with make or break, but I

701
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: don't know that I would look at it and say,

702
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: like you said, Mark, that to me, it looks a

703
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: lot statistically, and it to me I reminisced back to

704
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: Peyton Ma who had really good statistical regular seasons but

705
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: then got into playoffs and really struggled.

706
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: The thing about it is CJ hasn't been that way.

707
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: CJ has had really good playoff games and playoff performances

708
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: really other than.

709
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: This last one.

710
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: But because this is a Texas team, a lot of

711
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: people thought, oh, dark horse to get to the super Bowl.

712
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: When he had that struggling game against the Patriots, I

713
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: think a lot of people just jumped on it and said, oh, yeah,

714
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: this is the issue, this is it.

715
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 2: I think he is due to bounce back in a big,

716
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: big way, and I think this offense goes to a

717
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: different level with him in twenty six and it shuts

718
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: down all the narratives.

719
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: But if it's a Manning.

720
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: Like season where it's a great regular season but then

721
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: there are struggles in the playoffs, I mean, if we

722
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: thought Manning back before social media was around, back before

723
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: you know, twenty four to seven sports and shouty shows

724
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: were the thing, if we think that's gonna, you know,

725
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: go away, it's definitely not going away. It's gonna be

726
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: amped up a thousand. Whereas Manning, yeah, he dealt with

727
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: the noise. CJ's gonna have to deal with that times

728
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: one hundred and if he does and he does well,

729
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, this whole thing changes and

730
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: the narrative turns around on it dot.

731
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: People have less patience than ever, and you know, I

732
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: think it's break because they don't have that kind of

733
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: let's wait and see him develop more mentality. They have

734
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: this let's get the next guy in there. And I

735
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: don't say that the organization's gonna feel that way necessarily.

736
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: Maybe they do, but I think the fans, media, the

737
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: outside noise will feel that way because some of the

738
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: stuff You're right, Johnny, some of the stuff I hear

739
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: about CJ. I'm thinking, you guys are not thinking about

740
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 3: the same player here. When you look at the New

741
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: England game, I know that's the greatest stage you have

742
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: to perform.

743
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: Well.

744
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: Another game that weekend, we saw a quarterback throw two picks,

745
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: fumble twice in a game where my gosh, you've got

746
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 3: to win this game once and for all, or maybe

747
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: not once and for all because he's done it before.

748
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: But Josh Allen had four turnovers against the Broncos at

749
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: Mile High and that was horrible. But nobody's saying that

750
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: about Josh Allen, although they are saying, can you finally

751
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: win the big one for us.

752
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: I get it.

753
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: That's what all quarterbacks face until they can do it,

754
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: and coaches too. Once you win the one, they'll never

755
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: ask you again. They'll want another one, but they'll know

756
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 3: that you can do it, and there's just something special

757
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 3: about it when you get at least that one. Ask

758
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh, Ask Sean Payton about that. Ask Mike Tomlin

759
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: about that. Now, Tomlin has followed that up with a

760
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: lot of seasons where he doesn't win playoff games at all.

761
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: You know, doesn't advance, but if you advance, you get

762
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: that narrative of having won a Super Bowl going in

763
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: your direction. It's really good. You have a lot of

764
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: staying power. You can hang around a long time. One

765
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: more thing, Johnny, you brought a Make or Break and

766
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: Bryce Young's on this list too. I'll bring up the name.

767
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: This is going back kids. Jim Plunkett. He was in

768
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: New England for was it like six years or so something?

769
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was a good amount at least five.

770
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: And then he goes to San Francisco before he ends

771
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: up at the Raiders. Ends up at the Raiders and

772
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: basically comes off the bench in both seasons in which

773
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: he wins Super Bowl rings and he is a huge

774
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 3: part of the reason. Now they had really good defense

775
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: in that game where they beat Washington, but he made plays. Man,

776
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: he was good. Marcus Allen was pretty handy too. But

777
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: I look at Bryce Young. Is this make or break

778
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 3: for Bryce Young?

779
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: Yeah?

780
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: Maybe, But I'm not going to write anybody off because

781
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: we've seen Sam Darnold come back and win a Super Bowl.

782
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: I love these quarterback resurrection stories, but I don't want

783
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: to have to go through that with CJ. Stroud somewhere else.

784
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: I want to see him get it done here and

785
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: so does he. So let's see it happen. Let's have

786
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: this offensive line reconstruction pay off, this running game infusion

787
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 3: with David Montgomery pay off, and the receiving corps pay off,

788
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 3: and get there and see what he can really do

789
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: when he gets back to that stage in the postseason.

790
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: You're really had an interesting point, I think with NFL quarterbacks, Mark,

791
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: because we really don't have you know, Rogers is gonna

792
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: retire after this year, or so he says, and and

793
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: I tend to believe him, but we had there was

794
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: a period where and I'm looking at a graphic it

795
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: says end of an era question mark and it has

796
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: the sad face emoji. Brady Rogers, Breeze, Peyton, Eli Roethlisberger.

797
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, outstanding.

798
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: There was a time when those guys were all kind

799
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: of going at the same time where you kind of

800
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: had this you got a bunch of old heads and

801
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: then you got a bunch of young guns, and there

802
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: really wasn't kind of a.

803
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: An in between.

804
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: The only guy that's truly in between is now an

805
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: old head, and that's Stafford. You really, you really kind

806
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: of don't have that. Now you really have got you

807
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: got Stafford at one end. Then you've got josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes,

808
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, basically the class of twenty eighteen, Brow Burrow,

809
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: and then you got you know, the young guns coming

810
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: from twenty three, twenty four, twenty five kind of thing.

811
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 2: It feels like it's a really kind of interesting spot

812
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: for quarterbacks because we're analyzing these quarterbacks as a you know,

813
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 2: a media conglomerate if you will, yep, and we're thinking

814
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: we're watching Brady Rogers, Breeze, Paid and Eli Roethlisberger, and

815
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: we're not we're not watching that group. That maybe what

816
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: we were watching with those guys is maybe the greatest

817
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: quarterback group there's ever been. And now we're coming off

818
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 2: of that and we're thinking, oh, this will be this,

819
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: and it's really not.

820
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: And I feel like.

821
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: Because of that, and because of just the heightened scrutiny

822
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: that goes with having a quarterback and the money that

823
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: they're getting paid, they're just gonna be carrying.

824
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: That much more pressure.

825
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: But when you really look at it, who's got their Brady,

826
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: Who's got their Rogers, who's got their Breeze? You know,

827
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: who's got their Peyton? You know, Buffalo's got Josh. You

828
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: know Lamar almost left a couple of years ago, and

829
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: there's always talk about Lamar maybe moving on. The Chiefs

830
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: have mahomes Yo, Burrow Dan. Last year Burro was talking

831
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: about man, trade me, get me out of here. So

832
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: it just really kind of an interesting spot for not

833
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: just CJ, but I think for all the quarterbacks in

834
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: this particular league. I mean to the guys on this

835
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: list of Nick Schuk's list, or Kyler Murray and JJ

836
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: McCarthy won the number one overall pick from twenty nineteen,

837
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: won the number ten pick I think from twenty twenty four.

838
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: And or twenty twenty five, excuse me.

839
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: And so they're battling to be the number one guy

840
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: in Minnesota.

841
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: It's like one guy loses out.

842
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: And ends up kind of being a bus and the

843
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: other guy, we don't even know what he's going to

844
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: be able to do in Minnesota. So I just it

845
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 2: feels like, at a time when scrutiny is at its highest,

846
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: we've got a quarterback group in the NFL that really

847
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: just hasn't proven a whole lot outside of a couple

848
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: of guys Matt Stafford, Josh Allen, I'm Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson,

849
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: et cetera. And I know I'm probably missing a guy

850
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: in there as well, but it just feels like there

851
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: are a lot of guys that still have to prove

852
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: themselves to be that great that we're not accepting of it.

853
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: And probably it's probably the right way to be considering

854
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 2: what we were just coming the era were just coming

855
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: off of.

856
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: But the quarterbacks you described, Brady won a super Bowl

857
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: within his first what two years? Roethlisberger within his first

858
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: two years won a Super Bowl? Rogers within his first

859
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 3: what four years as a starter?

860
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: Four or five years as a starter?

861
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: Okay, go three years as a starter, all right, go on,

862
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 3: Burrow within his first two three years as a starter,

863
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: give me another one that you mentioned. Now, Alan know

864
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 3: hasn't been to a super Bowl, all right, Lamar Jackson, No,

865
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: has not even been to a super Bowl. So we

866
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: have a lot of these guys who aren't getting it.

867
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: Mahomes won a super Bowl within his first three years

868
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: of being a starter, so wait three or four? Yeah,

869
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: three of being a starter, So you know there is

870
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: a division there those guys.

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00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: Alan is great, Lamar Jackson is. It's great. It's hard

872
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: to win games in this league.

873
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: It's hard to win double digit games year after year

874
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: or a lot of years, you know, out of a

875
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: few or whatever the number would be. But these guys

876
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: haven't been to a super Bowl yet that I just mentioned,

877
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: and that's a big deal. At least Burrow's been to one,

878
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: and maybe that's going to be it for him. Maybe

879
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: he's Dan Marino of this era. But you're right, Johnny,

880
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: that era you have to appreciate the Rogers, Roethlisberger's, Brady's

881
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: Mannings of the world. Now, it took Manning more than

882
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: five years to win a super Bowl, but not much more,

883
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: and it looked like it was a foregone conclusion, even

884
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 3: though hey, who knows, maybe it doesn't break through it.

885
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: Oh six, maybe it takes even longer. And oh nine,

886
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: he got back, wasn't able to win it. He finally

887
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: won another one with Denver when he was on his

888
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: last legs. Really that was a defensive Super Bowl victory,

889
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: but give him credit. So it's all interesting stuff to follow.

890
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: Let's talk John Elway versus Aaron Rodgers.

891
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: No, let's not.

892
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 6: No, Oh my gosh, that debate is funny.

893
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: I always love debates that come from people that haven't

894
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 2: seen one or the other.

895
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: We always have a famous debate.

896
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: From our good friend Tyler Suddarth and and he we

897
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: would debate Larry Bird and Steph Curry, and I mean

898
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: we would go back and forth, back and forth, back

899
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: and forth, and.

900
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: You can't do it. You can't.

901
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: He can't do it because he had never seen he

902
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: had never seen Larry Bird play, so he had never

903
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: he never could grasped what Larry Bird could do. And

904
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: so we would get into these knockdown debates and it

905
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: just it's it's interesting when I you know, it's the

906
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 2: whole you know, Lebron Kobe, Lebron cool Lebron Kobe Michael

907
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: Jordan debate.

908
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: It's like you got people arguing Lebron.

909
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, but did you ever see Michael Jordan, Well,

910
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: I saw some highlights. No no, no, no, no, no, you

911
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: don't get it if you just saw the highlights of

912
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: what a guy could do.

913
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: Let's have the argument.

914
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: Let's debate it all day long. Give me a shouty show,

915
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: and we are off and running. All right, Just plenty

916
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: of news going on on this Memorial Day weekend around

917
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: the NFL, including some injury news with your Texans came

918
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: out today. We'll give you that and then some next

919
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: right here in Texans All Access teving everybody. We got

920
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 2: one final segment this edition of Texans All Access on

921
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: a wonderful Friday evening.

922
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Speaker 1: It's wonderful because it's.

923
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: Friday and it is a Memorial Day weekend. Even though

924
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: it does appear those of us in the greater Houston

925
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 2: area are about to get doused in a big, big way.

926
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Speaker 2: So you'll be safe out there. Enjoy the weekend, but

927
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Speaker 2: do it responsibly. But I appreciate you being with me.

928
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Speaker 2: John Harris, football and a Southland reporter for your Houston

929
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: Texans a little.

930
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: Bit of news. It started.

931
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: I had said this earlier in this show, but it

932
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: bears repeating. The Texans EJ speed. According to Aaron Wilson,

933
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 2: who does a great job covering his team, EJ gonna

934
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 2: have surgery, allegedly had tour a quad and attendant. Does

935
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: appear he'll be back this year, but he is going

936
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: to be rehabbing from this particular injury that apparently was

937
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: suffered during training. Don't know when, where, et cetera, but

938
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 2: you know it's the offseason. But does appear that EJ

939
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: is going to be out for a little bit, and

940
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: that really, I'll be honest, it sucks.

941
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Speaker 1: It really does suck.

942
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: Now this year, EJ and the defense will not have

943
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: to face Matt Stafford a leased in the regular season,

944
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: but the NFC will have to deal with Matt Stafford

945
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: as he signs a one year, fifty five million dollars

946
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: contract extension. He's thirty eight years old, He's coming off

947
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: the MVP season last year, and this takes him through

948
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, so this is going to be the

949
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: last year. So the extended one more year. I mean,

950
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford's incredible fifty five million dollars for a thirty

951
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: eight year old who is was just incredible. I mean,

952
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 2: he was unbelievable against us last year. I really honestly

953
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: thought we had him right where we wanted him, and

954
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: he just let us up. Malik Neighbors Giant wide receiver.

955
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: There are some noise that the Giants wide receiver is

956
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: not real, has not been fully rehabbed, or there's been

957
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: a setback with his knee injury suffered last year. The

958
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: Giants have got to have him, got to have him

959
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 2: to have a solid offensive season this year. So Molik

960
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: Neighbors keeping eye on that Texans play then we eight,

961
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: but does appear as though there are some complications from

962
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: the knee surgery that he had last year. Speaking to Giants,

963
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: Joe Shane the GM signing an extension, which I think

964
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: a lot of people didn't expect to see with John

965
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: Harbaugh now in charge basically with the Giants. But Joe

966
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: Shane gonna get a big contract extension to stay with

967
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: the Giants and with John Harbaugh for the foreseeable future.

968
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Speaker 2: All Right, that's gonna do for the show. Appreciate you

969
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 2: guys being with me again. Be safe this Memorial Day weekend.

970
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Speaker 2: We'll see on Monday. Next week OTA starting we'll be

971
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Speaker 2: out there on Thursday, so we'll give you all the breakdown,

972
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Speaker 2: but we'll see that everybody always go to Texans