Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up? What's your name?
Speaker 2: We're gonna go buy her bagdads today.
Speaker 1: Rebecca, what's going on? How's life? Uh?
Speaker 2: You know life? And I guess what brings you to
Speaker 2: the show?
Speaker 3: Huh so much.
Speaker 2: I think I've texted you a million things, so I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know which one you want to
Speaker 2: talk about. I'm down to talk about any of them.
Speaker 2: I think the most recent was like me being angry
Speaker 2: at another person on the podcast?
Speaker 1: Who who on the podcast? Were you angry at that guy?
Speaker 3: Jose?
Speaker 2: He was just like lying to you and then making
Speaker 2: you stay on the call, And I was like, what
Speaker 2: is why is he doing all this?
Speaker 1: Dude? It's so funny. First of all, shadow Jose. Jose's
Speaker 1: a legend, Jose's a hero, but for some reason, so like,
Speaker 1: it's so random. That was a phone call about absolutely nothing,
Speaker 1: and it has gotten way more uh reception than any
Speaker 1: phone call recently about anything. Yeah, No, Isaiah was a
Speaker 1: good guy. I don't know it was. I mean, people
Speaker 1: were mad at me. They thought I was being a dick.
Speaker 1: I was just having a conversation. I felt like, well,
Speaker 1: people were mad at me, and then they were mad
Speaker 1: at Jose. And I'm like, I think both of us
Speaker 1: were just existing. That was the whole point. That was
Speaker 1: what I was trying to get at, is we were
Speaker 1: just existing on the phone together.
Speaker 2: I think he needed done more than you need a
Speaker 2: DoD Well.
Speaker 1: No, I mean he felt like he felt as though
Speaker 1: there was something wrong with him, and I was trying
Speaker 1: to tell him that there were there There wasn't. He
Speaker 1: was he was exactly okay, just existing as who he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that, but yeah, So, I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know how far you've gone in my text threats.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're just talking, and so I actually did. I'm
Speaker 1: not looking at the thing. We're all exactly. We're on
Speaker 1: the phone right now, We're in the moment. What do
Speaker 1: you want to talk about?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I have a funny story.
Speaker 4: I have a funny.
Speaker 2: Story that happened to me like two years ago. Uh
Speaker 2: huh with my person who I am currently now married with.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: So I'll try to make a sure But basically, he
Speaker 2: was like texting a bot and he thought it was
Speaker 2: like a girl, and he like sent nudes and she
Speaker 2: sent nudes and then turns out it was a man
Speaker 2: in Nigeria, scamming him for money. And then he was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I wanted to confess to you, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what's up? And he was like, well, this is what happened.
Speaker 2: I'm being extorted for money from somebody who was from Nigeria.
Speaker 2: What should I do? And then I was like it
Speaker 2: was pretty funny. I thought it was kind of stupid
Speaker 2: because I said, if I'm going to marry this man,
Speaker 2: why am I allowing this?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: But also side note, I did marry him so I
Speaker 2: can get legal documentation in the United States, but also
Speaker 2: because like I've been with him for a for a
Speaker 2: long time. But it just felt very weird knowing that
Speaker 2: this man was sending newts to a man in Nigeria
Speaker 2: thinking that it was a woman and marry him. Yes,
Speaker 2: it was a problem for me, but I think it
Speaker 2: was okay because we'd been together for over four years.
Speaker 2: It was kind of just to me, it felt like
Speaker 2: this was like the end all be all, even though
Speaker 2: it shouldn't have been.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm sorry you felt like what was the end
Speaker 1: all be all?
Speaker 2: Like this relationship?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm trying to understand why this was not a
Speaker 1: problem for you.
Speaker 2: No, Okay, So The only reason why it was not
Speaker 2: a problem was because I was trying to look past
Speaker 2: the problem. I was trying to get papers essentially.
Speaker 1: Okay, and how okay, And now you guys are married
Speaker 1: and you looked past that, and how is the marriage going?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 2: So like this, it's a whole ball of bs. But
Speaker 2: basically what happened is we were not good. So maybe
Speaker 2: about like seven months ago, we kind of took a
Speaker 2: break and then I don't know, I think I would
Speaker 2: consider this. I would say it was an affair because
Speaker 2: I met somebody at work. I started working at a
Speaker 2: restaurant and then I do back a house and so
Speaker 2: I met somebody at work, and then I was not
Speaker 2: seen the man that I married, right, and then I
Speaker 2: was seeing this new guy. We're gonna call him Joey.
Speaker 2: So I was seeing Joey and then we were dating essentially,
Speaker 2: and then like it, just like me and the guy
Speaker 2: that I married just were kind of no contact. It
Speaker 2: was just like random text, hey, hey, how are you whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2: But then I started really catching feelings for this Joey
Speaker 2: guy and he wanted to be with me, but then
Speaker 2: he was love bombing me. He was very much like, oh,
Speaker 2: when I saw you, I knew I was going to
Speaker 2: marry you, and I'm like, well, you know, I'm married,
Speaker 2: so I just can't happen. But I was almost like
Speaker 2: about to give in. And then this guy turned out recently,
Speaker 2: I was like going on Instagram and then he has
Speaker 2: a girlfriend already in a month that we stopped.
Speaker 1: Talking, and a d during this time. Are you with
Speaker 1: your husband? Like, are you like to get married?
Speaker 2: Yes, but no contact like maybe two texts throughout the
Speaker 2: month or something. Oh okay, so legally yes, okay, married
Speaker 2: by uh huh?
Speaker 1: So are you Roman? Who are you romantically involved with
Speaker 1: your husband? Well?
Speaker 4: Now, yes?
Speaker 1: Where are you from California? Why do you need papers?
Speaker 2: Because I was brought here when I was like three
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so you don't have a US passport?
Speaker 1: I don't, Oh shit, damn. But you've been how long
Speaker 1: you've been therefore?
Speaker 2: I have been here for twenty five years, damn, bro.
Speaker 1: And you still need to fucking marry a crazy guy.
Speaker 1: You still need to have a horrible relationship to uh America?
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally? And you know what, And there's obviously like
Speaker 2: good parts and there was a lot of good parts,
Speaker 2: but also a lot of horrible parts that I literally
Speaker 2: had no idea were happening, you know, because I feel like, naturally,
Speaker 2: I'm a very loving girl, and so I think I'm
Speaker 2: very trusting, and so this guy, like I just one
Speaker 2: time got like a hunch and looked through his phone.
Speaker 2: And then since the first year we were dating, there
Speaker 2: was like he was in girls dms and then girls
Speaker 2: like randomly would DM me and they would be like, hey,
Speaker 2: or do you know this guy, like he's been calling me,
Speaker 2: he DMS me and he wants to hang out, and
Speaker 2: it was the whole thing. But again, I think I
Speaker 2: was just very like blinded by it.
Speaker 1: Okay, And I'm the problem? Why do you? Why are
Speaker 1: you the problem?
Speaker 2: Because I think I'm just too trusting. Same thing with
Speaker 2: this guy Joey. I feel like even though like I
Speaker 2: really liked him, I really enjoyed the time I was trusting.
Speaker 2: And then how in a month are you already with
Speaker 2: a girlfriend?
Speaker 1: And so who are you with now? You're with the
Speaker 1: guy who sexted the Nigerian chat Bob? Yes, okay, and
Speaker 1: how's and again again I've moved in now okay, So
Speaker 1: are you with him? With him? Or I'm kind of
Speaker 1: trying to distinct the differentiate between who you're with for
Speaker 1: papers and who you're like actually romantically involved with.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm with him for papers, the guy that
Speaker 2: was texting the Nigerian Bot, and then currently we're trying
Speaker 2: same person. We're trying to romantically be involved.
Speaker 4: But it's hard.
Speaker 2: Because it's like I went through so much with yeah at.
Speaker 1: The okay, but at the time that you were sexting
Speaker 1: with that, he was sexting with the Nigerian Bot. Were
Speaker 1: you guys in a committed relationship?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay uh and Okay, how is repairing that going?
Speaker 2: Okay? So we do have conflicting work schedules, so I
Speaker 2: think I like, I only see him during the weekend
Speaker 2: for a few hours because I work at Baker hours,
Speaker 2: So that means I'm at work by four am and
Speaker 2: he is going to work at one pm, and then
Speaker 2: he won't get off till eleven pm, and then I
Speaker 2: get off at twelve thirty pm, so I have to
Speaker 2: be in bed by like seven pm. So weekends really
Speaker 2: are the only times I see him because he's off
Speaker 2: those days, okay, And so it's it's a little odd,
Speaker 2: you know, because he has no idea about Joey from work.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I've never yeah, okay, so essentially you guys
Speaker 1: cheated on each.
Speaker 2: Other, yes, but he said more times. I know it
Speaker 2: doesn't justify it, but you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So at that point, it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: you did some things. I did some things. Let's let's
Speaker 1: start from scratch. That's kind of where we're at this
Speaker 1: right now. Okay, And are you enjoying being around him?
Speaker 1: Do you actually want to make this work or is
Speaker 1: it just for the papers?
Speaker 2: So I'm like a little bit of both. Right, So
Speaker 2: at this point, it's kind of like getting papers is
Speaker 2: really expensive. I'm glad you don't ever have to go
Speaker 2: through that, but it's it's really expensive to try to
Speaker 2: just even get documents, Like I have a work permit
Speaker 2: and I have to pay just recently almost six hundred
Speaker 2: dollars to be able to work here and pay taxes,
Speaker 2: which is insane crazy. That's a whole nother story. But
Speaker 2: I am enjoying the time, and I'm trying, like I'm
Speaker 2: trying to actually be committed into this, you know, m
Speaker 2: So I'm enjoying it so far, And.
Speaker 1: So I would say, does he also seem as though
Speaker 1: he is enjoying it, like he's.
Speaker 2: Making I think so, yeah, for sure, like financially he's
Speaker 2: being very helpful. But I also don't know if that's
Speaker 2: also you know, a little bit of guilt that he have.
Speaker 1: But her parents are still in the country.
Speaker 2: So my mom actually left a few years ago, and
Speaker 2: she's like doing really well over there.
Speaker 1: But my dad, Yes, where is she from?
Speaker 2: My mom?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mexico okay.
Speaker 2: We're from Mexico City, Okay. And so she's over there
Speaker 2: doing her things. She owns a business. She's doing really
Speaker 2: well over there. My dad is here and he just
Speaker 2: he has his own business and he's doing He remarried,
Speaker 2: you know, that's another situation. Remarried, bought a house really far,
Speaker 2: so he moved to Lancaster now, and so that's about
Speaker 2: like two hours from where I'm at. Okay, mm wait,
Speaker 2: are you still in la.
Speaker 1: Right at this very moment? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
Speaker 4: See.
Speaker 2: And that was the funny part is Joey was supposed
Speaker 2: to go with me to go to your show, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you know, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: buy the tickets and then we're going. But then he
Speaker 2: ended up like no, never mind.
Speaker 1: So Where are you? Where are you coming? Are you
Speaker 1: coming to the show?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: Not anymore?
Speaker 1: Okay, I was about to say I'll see you in
Speaker 1: three hours. Wait did you still wait? So you bought
Speaker 1: a ticket? You're not going?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why are you going?
Speaker 2: Because I'm like, I don't have anybody else to go with.
Speaker 1: By the way, okay, listen, here's the thing. I see
Speaker 1: the numbers of some of the shows, not all of them,
Speaker 1: but but listen, you're not the only person who's bought
Speaker 1: a single tick get to the event.
Speaker 2: Yeah, come to the show.
Speaker 1: It's in like fucking two hours.
Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, like I should go, but I'm
Speaker 2: just like, you know what, I've worked tomorrow four am
Speaker 2: again and then to drive back to La.
Speaker 1: You wait from where?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 1: Do you live in La?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so my friends make fun of me because
Speaker 2: I use stay LA, but it's like technically La County.
Speaker 2: So for example, like today, when I got off work,
Speaker 2: it took me an hour and ten minutes to get
Speaker 2: back home. Yeah when typically in the morning, Yeah, four am,
Speaker 2: we're talking twenty five minutes.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well what's so what's up with Joey? Wait? So
Speaker 1: you were gonna go with this guy. Wait, so you
Speaker 1: were going to bring your mistress to the show.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you were.
Speaker 1: You're not afraid that, Like, well I don't, You're not
Speaker 1: afraid that, like you know, what if I'm what if
Speaker 1: I'm like recording it and then he's like in it
Speaker 1: and then you get you get caught.
Speaker 2: No, because the one that was texting the Nigerian bot,
Speaker 2: he actually like I try to get him to listen
Speaker 2: to your show, and he just like never wanted to.
Speaker 2: He was always just like, oh yeah, that's funny whatever,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you don't get it. And then Joey
Speaker 2: on the contrary, like he would actually like listen and
Speaker 2: like we would be in the car and then he
Speaker 2: would like, you know, comment about it. So I knew
Speaker 2: that he would have been the person that would have
Speaker 2: enjoyed it more.
Speaker 1: Okay, but you're happy in your marriage too. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna call him the Nigerian guy. You're happy in your
Speaker 1: marriage to the Nigerian guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's where I'm conflicted, because it's like
Speaker 2: I think I'm just kind of forcing myself. But again,
Speaker 2: it just feels like I don't know, I'm mad that
Speaker 2: like Joey is with this girl in a month, Like.
Speaker 1: Why are you still thinking? Why are we even still
Speaker 1: talking about Joey? You're married to the Nigerian guy.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, but because I thought that, like, you know,
Speaker 2: it was not going to work out with the Nigerian guy,
Speaker 2: and then I thought, like, you know, maybe Joey and
Speaker 2: I would would have been together.
Speaker 1: Okay, but that's it. But now you're with the Nigerian guy.
Speaker 1: So if you're thinking about Joey with the Nigerian guy,
Speaker 1: then But.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is that I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'm happy. I'm kind of like, am I settling?
Speaker 1: It sounds like you want to be with myself?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that's too late.
Speaker 1: It's probably it's a little too late to be with Joey.
Speaker 1: But then what's the point of being with it? But
Speaker 1: then why don't you But if you don't even want
Speaker 1: to be with.
Speaker 2: This guy the leapers because I need papers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can like break up and not get divorced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then the thing is like, is he gonna
Speaker 2: let me get papers? I need him to physically be there,
Speaker 2: and you know, like I can pay it. I can
Speaker 2: pay for the papers and stuff, but he needs to
Speaker 2: sign like legal documents and do the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Why did he agree to? But he's like sected, Why
Speaker 1: did it sounds it doesn't sound like either of you
Speaker 1: want to be with each other. Why is this even happening?
Speaker 5: I think?
Speaker 2: Okay, so he has changed a lot since, you know,
Speaker 2: like I've forgiven him all those times. And it was
Speaker 2: more than just the Nigerian texting that guy, right. It
Speaker 2: was the girls that had dms me and talking about hey,
Speaker 2: I met up with him, blah blah blah. It's been
Speaker 2: more like girls from like the UK get I literally it.
Speaker 3: Has to be.
Speaker 2: I felt like a crazy person because one time this
Speaker 2: girl commented he has like another page, another Instagram page
Speaker 2: where he does photography, and this girl commented like so natural,
Speaker 2: just very much like oh my gosh, such a cute picture,
Speaker 2: some dumb shit like that, right, And I was like,
Speaker 2: why is she so comfortable commenting that with hearts while
Speaker 2: you and I are together? This was before we got married,
Speaker 2: and so then I was like, hey, girl, you know,
Speaker 2: just wanted to check in, like is there something between
Speaker 2: you two? And she was like, oh, well, we've been
Speaker 2: dming and she's from the UK. Gheg and We're in America.
Speaker 1: And he's yeming with people in Nigeria. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's got uh like.
Speaker 3: A ratio location.
Speaker 1: Dude, this is what what is the I don't I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't understand the point of you guys,
Speaker 1: Like why, like, what is neither neither of you, neither
Speaker 1: of you want to be in the relationship. Why are
Speaker 1: you doing.
Speaker 2: For papers? It just it seems like convenience, you know,
Speaker 2: I think, but.
Speaker 1: At what point is it like like you're here to
Speaker 1: be in the US to do what.
Speaker 4: To live?
Speaker 2: Because this is all I've known my whole life. You know,
Speaker 2: you can't be like, hey, go back to Mexico and
Speaker 2: then I don't even know what the hell that looks like.
Speaker 2: You know, we're talking like you were here broad as
Speaker 2: a baby, and what the hell am I going to
Speaker 2: do over there?
Speaker 1: What do you you have a baby?
Speaker 2: No, I don't have a baby.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I think said brought you a broad as
Speaker 1: a baby. Oh okay, okay, don't well, don't have a baby.
Speaker 1: That's a terrible idea.
Speaker 2: Oh no, trust me, I'm very much anti kid.
Speaker 1: What's your name again?
Speaker 2: Rebecca?
Speaker 1: Rebecca?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have.
Speaker 1: No solution for your problem. I mean there's I mean
Speaker 1: I do sort of, but yeah, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: just break well, you have to break up. But like
Speaker 1: I guess the whole thing is like if you break up,
Speaker 1: what's the point of him? But he doesn't want like,
Speaker 1: but what's the But here's the thing. He doesn't want
Speaker 1: to even be in the relationship anyway. So there so
Speaker 1: there's no point. So even even if he is married
Speaker 1: to you, there's no point in him going to these
Speaker 1: appointments anyway. You know, Yeah, this it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: I think. Again, I think it's mostly kind of maybe
Speaker 2: it could be the guilt and maybe he feels like
Speaker 2: he has to help me at this point, which is
Speaker 2: what I kind of feel like, maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 2: But I do also know that like you know, like
Speaker 2: we've been together for so long and like it feels
Speaker 2: like there is love there. Okay, but you know, as
Speaker 2: conflicting as all.
Speaker 1: Of this, how long you how long have you been together?
Speaker 2: Seven years?
Speaker 1: Okay, he'll help you with your pay, he'll help you
Speaker 1: with the papers, but like I think he'll help you.
Speaker 1: He'll help you with the papers. But but just if
Speaker 1: you're doing this thing, where like now that if you
Speaker 1: actually want to be with each other, then like, you know,
Speaker 1: I have a conversation about it and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, listen, like you want to hang out with
Speaker 1: these whatever London Instagram models, I want to hang out
Speaker 1: with Joey or whatever. Like let's just do that. And
Speaker 1: if you could help me out with the papers, that'd
Speaker 1: be cool too, you know. Yeah, like what's the point
Speaker 1: of this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, but I've tried that. I've tried that,
Speaker 2: and he like refuses to let go, and I also
Speaker 2: refuse to le go clearly.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: Nicole Rebecca Rebecca shits. Who's Nicole?
Speaker 2: It's not my real name. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know where Nicole is. But is there
Speaker 1: anything else you want to say to the people of
Speaker 1: the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: Fuck dumb kids, Thank you, good luck, good bye, but
Speaker 2: you around the universe, See.
Speaker 1: You around the universe.
Speaker 2: Toodle's poodle?
Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up man?
Speaker 4: Who is this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is the gecko? What's up? Man? Who is this?
Speaker 4: Whoa? This is Joe?
Speaker 1: Joe? What kind of name is Joe?
Speaker 5: It's it's like, you know, like the average Joe you.
Speaker 1: Know, are you an average Joe or are you or
Speaker 1: are you more than that?
Speaker 5: I'm pretty average. I mean, I don't know, man, I'm
Speaker 5: just some guy. I'm just a man. I'm just some guy.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of lost though.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're a regular guy?
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm more than a regular guy. Sometimes
Speaker 5: you ever get those like those small instantaneous like bursts,
Speaker 5: like I feel like I'm the fucking dog today. Can
Speaker 5: I cuss on ears?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why do people always ask me that I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm I always get offended, not offended, defend is
Speaker 1: the wrong word. But I like, uh, I'm like, have
Speaker 1: I am I too soft? The people have to ask
Speaker 1: have to ask me that.
Speaker 5: You sound so chill, Like you don't sound like a
Speaker 5: guy who cusses, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I don't sound like a guy who cusses.
Speaker 5: No, you don't, dude, Like I take you as like
Speaker 5: a very sweet guy. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 5: you're one of those guys. Like if I was with
Speaker 5: a group of guys and you were there and I
Speaker 5: was cussing, you would tell everyone to like calm down
Speaker 5: a little bit, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 5: Ah, man, oe, dude, maybe maybe we need to smoke
Speaker 5: and we together and figure it out.
Speaker 1: I I don't know, I mean, I try to. No,
Speaker 1: it's funny there. I mean, I've been in some like
Speaker 1: social circles in my life where like, uh, people have
Speaker 1: said certain similar things to me. But like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I seem like I don't cuss, I don't like that.
Speaker 1: It feels that feels uh. I don't know. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: I appreciate this is an interesting way to get a
Speaker 1: grip on how I'm perceived.
Speaker 5: But you seem very nice.
Speaker 1: I try, man, I don't know, I'm going.
Speaker 5: I mean I would I would sit down if you
Speaker 5: were at a bar. I would sit down with you
Speaker 5: if you're by yourself and buy your beer.
Speaker 1: Thanks. Man, Well, I'm going insane. I'm going insane.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm going insane. Bro, I'm looking you lost right now?
Speaker 1: Why are you going? And so tell me why you're
Speaker 1: going insane? Son?
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm looking at a musician. I like to play bass.
Speaker 5: So I was in this music store. I'm in Teteluma
Speaker 5: right now on a getaway trip with my girlfriend and dude.
Speaker 5: Her phone just died and she says she's going to
Speaker 5: a bookstore. And then there's like five bookstores near me,
Speaker 5: and I went through like three already, I'm kind of
Speaker 5: losing it and I'm lost, and I don't remember where
Speaker 5: we parked. And now I'm sitting on a bench smoking
Speaker 5: my weed and right next to me, I see a
Speaker 5: signentist no smoking prohibited in the park.
Speaker 1: Dude? What is Petaluma?
Speaker 5: It's a little city, it's by It's it's in like
Speaker 5: is it the Nooma County or something? I can't remember.
Speaker 5: It's in California.
Speaker 1: And what are you doing there again? You're on vacation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a little getaway trip for me and my
Speaker 5: girls are six years That's cool.
Speaker 1: And where is she? You can't find her?
Speaker 5: Heyde a bookstore, She's told me a bookstore last because
Speaker 5: I was in this music store for a good minute.
Speaker 5: I walked out and I see like one bookstore going it,
Speaker 5: couldn't find her. I go another one, couldn't find her.
Speaker 5: And then I kind of just gave up halfway. And
Speaker 5: now I'm sitting here on a bench.
Speaker 1: And where do you think she might be?
Speaker 5: There's I mean, there's two more spots I could go too,
Speaker 5: and I'm halfway with my joint, go to the two spots. Okay,
Speaker 5: should I finished my joint first?
Speaker 1: How much do you have left in the joints?
Speaker 5: Like it's like a halfway you know those a little stizzy,
Speaker 5: like those little stizzy half joints, like a little half rams.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought it was like I thought. I
Speaker 1: thought Stizzy was a was a vape company.
Speaker 5: Dude, That's what I thought too. But then I went
Speaker 5: into the disco recently and I saw that they had joints.
Speaker 5: I was like, let me try that, and dudes, good deal.
Speaker 5: I thought there'd be more of It's only five little things.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of a heavy smoker, so I kind of
Speaker 5: killed it with the day.
Speaker 1: How did you meet your girlfriend six years ago?
Speaker 5: Did we meet in high school? Yeah, well she was
Speaker 5: I was sixteen, she was fifteen, and then we were
Speaker 5: in the same grade. We're both sophomores at the time.
Speaker 4: We met.
Speaker 5: There a mutual friend that I don't I don't talk
Speaker 5: to you anymore. That's some actually more crazy stuff about that.
Speaker 5: That shit too, But we met their mutual friend and
Speaker 5: then we.
Speaker 4: Hit it off.
Speaker 5: Actually, she slid in my DMS. Actually she slid in
Speaker 5: my DMS before we actually first met, which is crazy
Speaker 5: because normally like want maybe the other way around.
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, not necessary. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of guys who like the
Speaker 1: reason they have a girlfriend is because they the girlfriend
Speaker 1: DMed them, like they made the first move, you know, Doude.
Speaker 5: The thing is, I'm not I never really, dude, I
Speaker 5: was a hermit growing up, bro, Like I played games,
Speaker 5: I played bass, I played bass guitar and then fucking dude, yeah,
Speaker 5: I just I was that kid who was just like
Speaker 5: you know, and I did boxing for for that for
Speaker 5: a little while.
Speaker 4: But dude, I did. I was a hermit growing up. Bro.
Speaker 5: I did not pay attention to girls. Really, and this
Speaker 5: girl's young me and I was like, okay, do.
Speaker 1: You still identify as a hermit?
Speaker 5: Yeah, low ki, dude, I'm still a hermn like really bad.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to break out of that sometimes.
Speaker 1: But yet you're lost in Paloma.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm lost in Pedaluma, dude.
Speaker 1: Why did you choose Pedaluma?
Speaker 5: We showed, oh dude, Pedaluma. Well it's actually Napa, but
Speaker 5: we're staying in Napa. Pedaluma is like a sister city
Speaker 5: to Napa. NAPA is actually like one of the greatest
Speaker 5: cities of wine. And I like to get drunk. So
Speaker 5: I got really drunk yesterday off of wine, like a
Speaker 5: lot of wine.
Speaker 1: Gonna, how long have you been lost?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: What if minutes? Okay? Have you tried calling your girlfriend?
Speaker 5: Her phone is bad, bro, her.
Speaker 1: Phone is dead. Her phone is dead. Okay, that's a problem.
Speaker 5: She did not charge your last night.
Speaker 1: Does she typically do that? She she a classic.
Speaker 5: She's on it, but she's she's always on it. She's
Speaker 5: a smart girl, like she's always on top of her stuff.
Speaker 5: But dude, we got so drunk and so hammered that
Speaker 5: I really, I really don't know how we got home.
Speaker 5: Say I, I don't drink and drive. People, this is
Speaker 5: online and you're listening to me. Please do not drink
Speaker 5: and drive.
Speaker 4: Don't. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't remember how I got but or to the hotel,
Speaker 5: but it happened.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hmm okay, okay. And she's either in this
Speaker 1: music store or in this bookstore.
Speaker 5: It's even in this bookstore. I was in the music store.
Speaker 5: I was fidgeting around on this base I liked.
Speaker 1: Okay, hmm, oh, I think you guys should break up.
Speaker 1: You're ever going to find each other.
Speaker 5: I should wake up. We're not going to fight each other.
Speaker 1: You guys should break up. You guys did Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean this would be grounds for like I feel like
Speaker 1: in the in the fourteen hundred so this would be
Speaker 1: grounds for a breakup, just the fact that you can't
Speaker 1: physically find each other.
Speaker 5: I would I would want her to sell.
Speaker 4: I would want her to like.
Speaker 5: Get a horse though, Like if that was the case, okay,
Speaker 5: at least get a horse. Yeah, like a horse. You
Speaker 5: know in the fourteen hundred three they would trade with
Speaker 5: animals and livestock. Mm hm. So you know, I feel
Speaker 5: like it'd be okay if she got at least three horses.
Speaker 1: Dude, what's the highest number you think you could count to.
Speaker 5: I'm not good at math at all.
Speaker 4: Gag. That's why I do construction.
Speaker 1: What it was the last thing you built as a
Speaker 1: construction worker? What have you been building?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: I did like rough carpentry for a house. So it
Speaker 5: was just like the framework of it. But you know,
Speaker 5: even then, like me and my bro homies get hammered
Speaker 5: and just build. It's like it's like it's like legos,
Speaker 5: Like you're an adult with legos.
Speaker 1: You and your homies get hammered and build houses. That
Speaker 1: sounds really dangerous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds really fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe I am. Maybe I have gone soft. Maybe
Speaker 1: I have Maybe that.
Speaker 5: Is That's what I'm saying. Dude, I got you, I
Speaker 5: got you right there?
Speaker 4: Got you?
Speaker 1: Is that really what true? Do I sound? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't like uh, I don't know. I say I'm
Speaker 1: telling you no.
Speaker 5: I mean, dude, I'm not a party animal either, And
Speaker 5: I still living on the edge. Dude, I live on
Speaker 5: the edge.
Speaker 1: You've been living on the edge. Yeah, sometimes at the end,
Speaker 1: do you like being on the edge or do you
Speaker 1: want to get back to the center.
Speaker 5: I like to be on the edge, but my girlfriend
Speaker 5: likes to keep me on the center.
Speaker 1: M Okay. And your girlfriend's more uh put together than you?
Speaker 5: It sounds yes, dude, she's way more put together. Dude,
Speaker 5: I am. I'm like think of it as like, uh
Speaker 5: ever sent the movie Twins with Ronald Solszenegger and Dane Devio.
Speaker 1: I've heard of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the movie is like basically like they're twins,
Speaker 5: but only one of them gets the good as genetics,
Speaker 5: and that's Ronald Sowlschenegger's character who's at the big, buff,
Speaker 5: handsome one.
Speaker 4: I like my girlfriend and I'm Dan de Vide.
Speaker 5: I'm like the small, fat, stinky one. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What's your dream for the future?
Speaker 5: My dream for the future, dude, I'm like lurki as
Speaker 5: sorry musician right now, Like I'm kind of in my
Speaker 5: own band and I'm just like, I haven't put anything
Speaker 5: out yet. It's just what I've been struggling with is
Speaker 5: finding like a good tone for my bass, because I'm
Speaker 5: just bass and drums like a little shitty piano that
Speaker 5: I use.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: And what do you make music about, dude?
Speaker 5: It's like punk rock music. It's like experimental punk rock.
Speaker 5: So I'll like, I'll make like catchy jingles kind of
Speaker 5: and I'll just like, I don't really like have a voice, dare.
Speaker 5: I'm still trying to work up to getting a good voice.
Speaker 5: I kind of just like say stuff that that I
Speaker 5: want to get off my chest.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What do you want to get off your chest?
Speaker 1: What was the last thing you expressed musically?
Speaker 5: Well, dude, I haven't posted anything yet. I have like
Speaker 5: a little vault like like four songs that I like.
Speaker 5: I'm still kind of working on One of them is
Speaker 5: kind of just about like influences with people that like
Speaker 5: got to me and I kind of hated that. That's
Speaker 5: why I like I tell people like don't hang out
Speaker 5: with fucking drug addicts or fucking just just don't hang
Speaker 5: out with alcoholics people. It's it's not worth it. It's you
Speaker 5: don't want to be around.
Speaker 4: People like that.
Speaker 1: Was that you at one point?
Speaker 5: That was that was me at one point? Yeah, it
Speaker 5: was pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Oh what what influenced you to change?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 5: It's gonna sound so corny, but it was my girlfriend.
Speaker 4: I in my cat.
Speaker 5: Do you have a little baby cat that I love?
Speaker 5: He's like two now, he's like my son.
Speaker 1: How did your girlfriend convince you to change?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 5: I literally, okay, I'm twenty two now, and I don't
Speaker 5: know why, Like do gag. I was like so stupid
Speaker 5: and like I did so many stupid things that I look,
Speaker 5: you had this like like a role that I was
Speaker 5: gonna be like dead in the ground by eighteen. It
Speaker 5: was like sad, And honestly it's sad when I look
Speaker 5: when I look back at it now and like, I look,
Speaker 5: you just had no purpose. And I guess like I
Speaker 5: don't know, like like I like, growing up, it was
Speaker 5: kind of hard. I was looking on my own, like
Speaker 5: I had parents, but like my mom was at work,
Speaker 5: and then my dad was always at a night job,
Speaker 5: so that was always sleeping and he was like king alcoholics.
Speaker 5: I kind of grew up with that.
Speaker 4: But it's like.
Speaker 5: I kind of just found out that there's more to
Speaker 5: life than certain things. Like I remember I was on
Speaker 5: a shroom trip with my friends, and like I was
Speaker 5: sitting on the beach and looking at like the sky,
Speaker 5: and dude, I sort of got it was like pink
Speaker 5: and purple, and I could see like the galaxy out there,
Speaker 5: like it was like Super Mario Galaxy out there. I
Speaker 5: was to shoot up in the star and go up
Speaker 5: in space and collect some little like those little dust
Speaker 5: things will start like a little colorful shit. But then
Speaker 5: I came back and I was like wow, yeah, dude,
Speaker 5: I was like wow, I could be like in Super
Speaker 5: Mario Galaxy right now if I want, you know. And
Speaker 5: then I just wanted to live life, dude, Like I
Speaker 5: just want to be out there, like I just want
Speaker 5: to do more than what I'm supposed to. Like I
Speaker 5: think with that trip, I learned that there's more to
Speaker 5: life than what I am, dude, because we are an
Speaker 5: ant right now. We're just ants on this planet on
Speaker 5: the like we could be on Nettune being water people,
Speaker 5: but we're on Earth right now being human people.
Speaker 1: To being a water person would be crazy. We're kind
Speaker 1: of like water people are made of water. We're made
Speaker 1: of water. Did you know that we're like what water?
Speaker 5: I think it's like seventy five dude. I think ninety
Speaker 5: per water is like too much because how like how
Speaker 5: is our blood split up of water?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 5: How does that work? If we're mainly water? But where's
Speaker 5: our blood? So wouldn't you be being made of more
Speaker 5: water than blood?
Speaker 4: Definitely?
Speaker 1: You know what? I think you should sit on that
Speaker 1: bench until you figure out the answer to that question.
Speaker 5: I should, dude. You know what's on your what's on
Speaker 5: your mind?
Speaker 4: Geg?
Speaker 5: I always want to like figure out.
Speaker 4: What's going on with you? Dude?
Speaker 1: What's your name again?
Speaker 4: Name is Joe? Joe?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: Can you guys please check out Rotten Dog. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: it's My band is called Rotten Dog. You can find
Speaker 5: me on Instagram.
Speaker 1: But rotten dog. Okay, hold on, let me do right,
Speaker 1: I have rotten rotten dog.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like d A W G Dog.
Speaker 1: Rotten dog.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I have like a little cartoon.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna look this up, are you? Oh
Speaker 1: you have the cartoon with the green yeah?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, wait, get I see my girlfriend?
Speaker 1: I see her.
Speaker 5: Wait, yes, I'm leaving her down.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, go go go talk to her. I
Speaker 1: followed you on Instagram. We'll keep up.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, wait, can't you say hi to you?
Speaker 4: Real quick?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: Also about my band music will drop Sune probably within
Speaker 5: like a month or two, so please, Okay, here's our
Speaker 5: girl friend here.
Speaker 1: Hello, hey, listen, just I'm I'm gonna hang up now.
Speaker 1: I gotta go. But with just whatever, it's just this guy.
Speaker 1: I forget his name. I'm bad with names, but I
Speaker 1: followed him on Instagram rotten dog. Hi. But listen, it's
Speaker 1: it's just just do me a favor. This this gentleman,
Speaker 1: this guy that's in front of you, he's he's a
Speaker 1: sweet guy. He's a good soul upon this earth. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not you know, listen, look after him. I mean
Speaker 1: he's not your responsibility. You you're your own.
Speaker 3: You guys are people.
Speaker 1: He's a broad ass man. He can take care of himself,
Speaker 1: but you know, but he's a good guy, and so
Speaker 1: are you, and thank you. I'm sure. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know. You could be a multitude of things. But
Speaker 1: I have try to put trust in the Uni verse,
Speaker 1: so I'll put my trust on you.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let me give the phone to him.
Speaker 5: Actually I want to say, I love my girlfriend. Uh,
Speaker 5: you know, thank you, Jesus, God, God, bless somebody. I
Speaker 5: don't know. Not America, though America's on my it's why
Speaker 5: not multitude things?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 1: Well no, I mean why rotten dog. I'll see you
Speaker 1: around the universe on dog.
Speaker 5: Yes, dude, I'm coming at you live anywhere. You're going
Speaker 5: to see me, get go give me on in the
Speaker 5: future with you, I'll be rich and famous.
Speaker 1: You're you're you're on. You're with me, You're on the
Speaker 1: thing with me right now, there's no the go.
Speaker 5: Ahead, dude, I'm going to your freaking show in San
Speaker 5: fran Oh cool.
Speaker 1: Okay, sweet, all right, I'll see you that all right,
Speaker 1: all right, you can come on stage, you can freestyle, okay, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited to tell me, give me. I
Speaker 1: don't want any more information about this mask. I want
Speaker 1: to see it in person. I'm very exciting.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, cool?
Speaker 1: All right man, I'll see you that.
Speaker 5: Can we can we both chuck and a beer together.
Speaker 1: I can't promise that, but I can promise we can
Speaker 1: say what's up?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: All right, all right man, I'll see you on the
Speaker 1: univer I'll see you in San Fran.
Speaker 5: All right, I bet dude, I'll see you run the
Speaker 5: Universe and then San Fran.
Speaker 1: All right, man, I'm excited to see what the hell
Speaker 1: what this mask is this week?
Speaker 5: Fun dude, Yeah, no, you'll you'll see bro, I'll post.
Speaker 1: You okay, cool man, okay, cool, al right, I followed,
Speaker 1: I followed you, Rotten Dog, right, I'll see you.
Speaker 5: That are you for real?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You're the green Dog?
Speaker 4: Right? Yes? That is me?
Speaker 1: All right man, I'm excited. I'm I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: this this mixtape.
Speaker 4: Thank you, bro.
Speaker 1: All right man, you take care.
Speaker 5: Awesome, you take better care. Thanks you taking more care
Speaker 5: than I will myself. Yeah you too, man bybe.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 4: My name is Brett.
Speaker 1: What's up, Brett? What's going on?
Speaker 4: Not much?
Speaker 5: Not much going on. I'm actually taking a break from
Speaker 5: from work right now.
Speaker 1: And what are you doing during that break?
Speaker 5: I just tried a new restaurant, the Chicken Place, kind
Speaker 5: of Nashville Hot Chicken. H I found out it's it's
Speaker 5: a restaurant by Shack.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it any good?
Speaker 4: Its delicious?
Speaker 5: Okay, in my opinion, a little bit over priced, but
Speaker 5: it was really good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's how much for like a chicken sandwich?
Speaker 5: The sandwich itself is like twelve bucks?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well you can just get a sandwich. You got
Speaker 1: to you got a combo. I assume you got some fries.
Speaker 1: You gotta drink.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they they got me. They got me on the
Speaker 5: on the good stuff.
Speaker 1: They got you on the good stuff. What's your name again, Bett, Brett?
Speaker 1: What would you like to talk about today?
Speaker 4: Uh? Good question.
Speaker 5: I think I I texted you something about how this
Speaker 5: is kind of thing that me and my friends have
Speaker 5: been talking about recently. We're all similar age, around the
Speaker 5: age of thirty, some of us a little under some
Speaker 5: of us over and we're experiencing this collective feeling of
Speaker 5: how like cool simple things are. Yeah, alright, I'm in
Speaker 5: my car now, so I should be able to hear
Speaker 5: you better. But yeah, it's uh, it's like I just
Speaker 5: moved recently and I'm a bigger yard and I just
Speaker 5: like get home from work and I started a little
Speaker 5: garden and I water those plants and then I watched
Speaker 5: my dog run around and it's frigging sweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's because like the older you get,
Speaker 1: the more I mean, the more I guess supposedly the
Speaker 1: older you get, the more you've done and the more
Speaker 1: you've seen, and so because of that, it's like the
Speaker 1: novelties kind of wear off and the simple things are
Speaker 1: kind of all you're left with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 5: Kind of like a little bit of maybe like a
Speaker 5: sense of stability too. Yeah, but just having appreciating, like
Speaker 5: the simple things in your day to day life make
Speaker 5: you feel a little bit more more grounded, maybe is
Speaker 5: a better word for it.
Speaker 1: Do you feel more stable now?
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah.
Speaker 5: In the past like year or so, I feel like
Speaker 5: I've kind of taken a turn where in my early
Speaker 5: to mid twenties it was like I felt like an
Speaker 5: over aged teenager, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Well, which still kind of.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 5: Just I feel like, or at least another thing that
Speaker 5: people say around here is like thirty is the new twenty.
Speaker 5: Just shark with society and how expensive things can be.
Speaker 5: It like takes your early twenties to figure out how
Speaker 5: to be an adult.
Speaker 1: M yeah, you need more. Yeah, you kind of get
Speaker 1: like a fresh start, it seems.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I kind of feel like I got through that,
Speaker 5: and you know, I've got a pretty decent job, a
Speaker 5: bigger yard from my dog, like all the things that
Speaker 5: a few years ago I knew I wanted to get to,
Speaker 5: I'm starting to get to.
Speaker 1: Is there anything left that you haven't gotten to yet?
Speaker 4: Oh? I'm sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've always wanted to. I mean, I've done a
Speaker 5: very bit of traveling, but I want to do a
Speaker 5: lot more traveling.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 5: I've always felt like once I own my own home
Speaker 5: would be like a very big adult thing. Although in
Speaker 5: my area that's not super realistic, but it kind of
Speaker 5: feels like that. I feel like the sensation I would
Speaker 5: expect from reaching that milestone I'm kind of reaching in
Speaker 5: this in this current house that I'm renting. I think
Speaker 5: I feel like it's giving me the same kind of fulfillment.
Speaker 1: And what does that what does that sensation feel like?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good question. I haven't tried to like
Speaker 5: put words to it. I guess it's just kind of
Speaker 5: like maybe just like less more more peaceful, like a
Speaker 5: sense of calm. I'm not so worried about like what
Speaker 5: I need to do next in order to start, in
Speaker 5: order to progress towards what it is that I want.
Speaker 5: I can kind of take a step back and appreciate
Speaker 5: the moment a little more. Yeah, it sounds like a
Speaker 5: like a super grand statement, but that.
Speaker 1: Sounds pretty normal to me. Yeah, that sounds pretty normal
Speaker 1: to me. That's what I'm Yeah, I think that that's
Speaker 1: uh yeah, the older you get, the more you kind
Speaker 1: of crave a little bit of peace and a little
Speaker 1: bit less like all right, what do I gotta do next?
Speaker 1: But my brain works in a sense of like, uh,
Speaker 1: it kind of oscillates, like you get too stressed out
Speaker 1: and then you want peace. But then, at least for me,
Speaker 1: when I have too much peace, I get I get antsy.
Speaker 1: I'm like I gotta if I gotta find another thing
Speaker 1: to do. That will stress me out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I actually I totally get that. I recently,
Speaker 5: there's been a ship ton of stuff going on in
Speaker 5: my life in the last like six months or so.
Speaker 5: And I actually wrote you an email not that long ago,
Speaker 5: which you may have not seen yet.
Speaker 4: What was the email, but in it.
Speaker 5: Really quick summary in the last six months, my dog
Speaker 5: had a life threatening emergency. He's fine now, totally fine.
Speaker 5: My father in law had a two strokes and he's recovering.
Speaker 5: And then we found out that my mom has stage
Speaker 5: four stomach cancer. Oh no, right around Christmas or so.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was a lot.
Speaker 5: Obviously, there's I think it's I want to say, it's
Speaker 5: a good thing that it all happened at the same time.
Speaker 5: But it did kind of give me some like intense perspective,
Speaker 5: I guess, which is probably tying into feeling all of
Speaker 5: these or appreciating all these simpler things in life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what kind of perspective did it give you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So in the email, I also write about, uh this,
Speaker 5: I forget which episode it was, but you were kind
Speaker 5: of talking about how you were traveling or you you
Speaker 5: oscillate between like this itch to travel and experience the world,
Speaker 5: and then you come home and you're like finding joy
Speaker 5: in the fact that you have bananas on your counter.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, there's a lot of joy just having bananas
Speaker 1: on your counter. There's a lot of joy in film,
Speaker 1: like yeah. Person Like when I when I I'm in
Speaker 1: California and I was visiting a childhood friend of mine
Speaker 1: and I went to his house and he had like
Speaker 1: a real apartment like where like things were like set
Speaker 1: up and he had like a blender and a spice
Speaker 1: rack and it like, you know, he was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is like a real person, you know. And I've
Speaker 1: had little epochs in my life where I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I feel like a real person, and it always feels
Speaker 1: but it feels better to feel like a real person
Speaker 1: than it does to be like, I don't know, of
Speaker 1: a vagrant or whatever, you know, like you see like
Speaker 1: and also I think you can be a real person
Speaker 1: for longer, Like you see like a fifty six year
Speaker 1: old guy and he's like eating some yogurt, he's looking
Speaker 1: at his watch, or like, this is a real guy.
Speaker 1: You can be. You can sustainably be a real guy
Speaker 1: for a pretty long time, you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's because I don't know if it's because of
Speaker 1: like whatever, Like boomers have had less existential dread than
Speaker 1: our generation and that makes it easier for them to
Speaker 1: be real people. But uh, yeah, I don't know, dude.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's uh, it's it's a tough balance.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely a balance. I feel like if you
Speaker 5: asked me, you know, five six years ago, if I
Speaker 5: thought being a middle aged adult eating yogurt at like
Speaker 5: a cafe was cool, I'd tell you absolutely not.
Speaker 4: But now that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it looks it looks great. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: great day. It's a great day being fifty six years old.
Speaker 1: You're like looking at something, You're not thinking about anything,
Speaker 1: You're just in your life so deeply. That's I hope
Speaker 1: that's me one day. I really do. I get so
Speaker 1: pumped when I see that, especially in New York, I
Speaker 1: get so pumped when I see that, Like that could
Speaker 1: be me one day. I could be fifty six years
Speaker 1: old sitting right there eating yogurt, not fucking thinking about anything.
Speaker 1: I have just over twenty years to get to that point.
Speaker 1: It's the type of it's the type of thing I
Speaker 1: think about it that makes you want to not kill
Speaker 1: myself is seeing a fifty six year old guy sitting
Speaker 1: in a chair eating yogurt. It really is. It's the
Speaker 1: type of thing that gives me. It's very hopecore.
Speaker 4: For sure. For sure.
Speaker 5: I think that's that's the best part about it is
Speaker 5: you can you can look forward to it, but you
Speaker 5: can also do that kind of thing right now to
Speaker 5: an extent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can do that thing right now. I
Speaker 1: mean I've talked to older people, and a lot of
Speaker 1: older people have told me that they have way less
Speaker 1: anxiety at their age than you know, in their in
Speaker 1: their twenties and thirties.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense. You just learn more about the world.
Speaker 5: I feel like maybe part of it too, is like
Speaker 5: you kind of have to go through that phase or
Speaker 5: that other side of the coin where you do travel
Speaker 5: and go experience things that there are to experience to
Speaker 5: really have as much knowledge about the world and kind
Speaker 5: of release yourself from all that anxiety and stress realize
Speaker 5: it's not such a big deal.
Speaker 1: Are you What are you most stressed about? Now?
Speaker 4: That's a good question. Day to day.
Speaker 5: I work in a retail management so I can be
Speaker 5: a stressful environment. But I'm not sure that I would
Speaker 5: say I'm necessarily stressed about work, because in the grand
Speaker 5: scheme of things, it's like so trivial.
Speaker 4: I feel like more so if I kind of.
Speaker 5: Dug deeper for an answer, I'd probably just be more
Speaker 5: stressed about I don't know, like taking advantage of the
Speaker 5: time I have.
Speaker 4: Is that makes sense?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, looking at a dog and go being
Speaker 1: in your yard is a pretty good way to do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of why I feel like I'm That's
Speaker 5: why this banana thing is stuck in my head. It's like,
Speaker 5: I don't think you were trying to say anything provocative,
Speaker 5: but for whatever reason it really stuck with me. Was like,
Speaker 5: just focus on the simple stuff and enjoy it, and
Speaker 5: you're less Your time is gonna feel like it's wasted.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this too. What's your name again, Brett?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Let me say I saying Brett. I'm in a hotel
Speaker 1: room in San Diego right now, and there is a
Speaker 1: Reese's fast break wrapper and an empty bottle of Gatorade
Speaker 1: on the night stand next to me, and and I
Speaker 1: feel insane. And when I am in my apartment and
Speaker 1: there's just like bananas on the shelf. I feel I'm
Speaker 1: craving deeply having bananas on my shelf. So I I
Speaker 1: you Actually, it's funny. You're reminding me that it feels
Speaker 1: good to have bananas on your shelf. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've had bananas on my shelf since that pot whatever
Speaker 1: podcast episode. I said that in that that must have
Speaker 1: been a year ago since I had bananas on my shelf.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't remember. I can't remember what was actually
Speaker 5: talking about.
Speaker 4: But you started.
Speaker 5: He just asked you how you were doing, and you
Speaker 5: started talking about that in like the first ten minutes
Speaker 5: of the episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, we're going to get back there. I'm
Speaker 1: inspired by by this conversation. Thank you for thank you
Speaker 1: for reminding me where I need to be in this
Speaker 1: world again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean you're out there doing the the
Speaker 5: Flip Side right now, because didn't you.
Speaker 4: Just start the tour.
Speaker 1: I did start the tour. The tour has been fun.
Speaker 1: The shows have been fun. I have it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a worth it trade off. The shows have been fun.
Speaker 1: We did the American Comedy Company in San Diego last night,
Speaker 1: and now we're doing La tonight. It'll be fun.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be fun. What's your name again, man, Brett? Brett, Brett.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Just uh go get some bananas, put him in your house,
Speaker 5: look at him, eat one of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, just choose to choose to have a good day.
Speaker 1: Perfect. Hey, thank you, Brett.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 5: I'll uh, I'll actually be at your your show in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Oh cool, Oh okay, I think yeah, that'll be in
Speaker 1: uh like a month. All right, I'll see you in
Speaker 1: a month, Brett. Yeah, see you awesome, thanks man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a good wie.
Speaker 3: Hello, Lyle, what I got to hey you? I sent
Speaker 3: you a text that it was at a blues jam
Speaker 3: in Belgium.
Speaker 1: Oh you're at a blues jam in Belgium.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, indeed, indeed have been.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to call you for quite some time
Speaker 3: and I'm a big fan.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I I listen to you all the time when I'm
Speaker 3: stretching or brushing my teeth.
Speaker 4: Fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you man. What's your name?
Speaker 4: Peter?
Speaker 3: Peter?
Speaker 4: Is my name?
Speaker 1: Peter Peter from Belgium At a blues Jazz Festival.
Speaker 5: No, it's it's a jam.
Speaker 1: It's just a bar, okay, are you there by yourself?
Speaker 3: Well, I've been living here for ten years and in
Speaker 3: the beautiful city of Ghent, so when I go out
Speaker 3: of it's just people I know.
Speaker 1: You know, ooh that's great, that's pretty juicy. So you've
Speaker 1: just been living there for long enough that you just
Speaker 1: walk the streets and you're you're you're the man of
Speaker 1: the people of uh what the what the hell is
Speaker 1: the name of the city Ghent? He a n t okay,
Speaker 1: So you're just the man of you are the man
Speaker 1: of Ghent.
Speaker 3: I am a man of Ghent. But yeah, I get around.
Speaker 3: I get around. So it's like you say, you just
Speaker 3: go out and you do stuff and you get to
Speaker 3: know people. You see them once, you see them twice
Speaker 3: and just like you would struck up conversation.
Speaker 1: Pretty good, pretty good, hm hm. So what made you
Speaker 1: want to go out to specifically this jazz place tonight.
Speaker 3: It's a place I I'm a regular here. So it's
Speaker 3: called the Mississippi, but not like you know, the spelling
Speaker 3: of the river. But it's like Missy as in a
Speaker 3: missus and sippy as in pacip A drink.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, that's a pretty cool place as I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: We have a lag because.
Speaker 3: Blues and blues and roots bar a couple of jazz
Speaker 3: places in Ghent as well, but this is more blues focused.
Speaker 3: And we just had a jam. It was with a
Speaker 3: Syrian player and he had a sauce, which is a
Speaker 3: very special instrument. We didn't expect that we were going
Speaker 3: to play with him, but we managed to somehow make
Speaker 3: something cool of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the roots.
Speaker 5: Like blues and roots music?
Speaker 3: It's like country folk Americana. So actually closer to your
Speaker 3: culture than ours, really, m hmmm.
Speaker 1: Do you listen to any Belgian music whatever the hell
Speaker 1: that might be?
Speaker 3: Belgian music is more like pop music. I do listen
Speaker 3: to a lot of to some Belgium music, but I
Speaker 3: mostly listened to like old English seventies eighties progressive rock
Speaker 3: bands and this and that.
Speaker 1: Okay, who did you run into today at the jazz
Speaker 1: bar that that you knew?
Speaker 3: There's this guy called Emil and we're starting a project
Speaker 3: right now. We're trying to start a band like a
Speaker 3: cover band, but with a twist, with everything is played
Speaker 3: a little bit lower and a little bit slower, and
Speaker 3: I ran into Laura. She's a girl who goes around
Speaker 3: here as well, and I invited a friend as well.
Speaker 3: Hannah's a pretty cool girl. She knows a lot about
Speaker 3: Star Wars.
Speaker 1: She knows a lot about Star Wars. Why does she
Speaker 1: know so much about Star Wars.
Speaker 3: I guess it's I guess it's the age man like
Speaker 3: around people are born in like I don't know. I'm
Speaker 3: I was born in ninety four, and I think people
Speaker 3: until like two thousands, two thousand and one, two thousand
Speaker 3: and three, they were all brought up with Star Wars,
Speaker 3: you know, And that's why she knows a lot about
Speaker 3: Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Does she know who wins the Star War?
Speaker 3: I think, well, you know, I don't take an account
Speaker 3: like the sequels because there non canon for me. So
Speaker 3: for me, like the Rebels win, Like you know, Star
Speaker 3: Wars was based off like the Vietnam War, so I
Speaker 3: think Vietnam wins the Star Wars.
Speaker 1: I thought it was based off of like World War Two,
Speaker 1: and like Darth Vader was Hitler.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the uniforms of the of the storm
Speaker 3: Coopers were based off of of the World War two
Speaker 3: uh Nazi uniforms but the Star Wars were actually based
Speaker 3: off of the Vietnam War because they've got the rebels
Speaker 3: or hidden in the jungle, you know, like in the
Speaker 3: third movie, well, actually the sixth movie, and the empire
Speaker 3: is the United States.
Speaker 1: Oh so the way is the empire? Okay, Oh so
Speaker 1: the rebels are Vietnam and we're the bad guys. And well,
Speaker 1: I guess not we your you're Belgium. So I guess
Speaker 1: the US is the bad guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, well, you know, I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 3: I was I was a little This call comes a
Speaker 3: little bit late because I've I've had so many ideas
Speaker 3: about what i wanted to say to you, And I'm
Speaker 3: looking at my old job right now, which is a
Speaker 3: big gass tower. It's all the belfry. It's a tower
Speaker 3: where tourists can go climb to the top and get
Speaker 3: a view of the city, you know, like a panoramic view, singy.
Speaker 3: And I hated my job. I hated doing it because
Speaker 3: it was always the same thing, and it's always interactions
Speaker 3: of only like ten seconds. But you meet a lot
Speaker 3: of people from a lot of places. And I think
Speaker 3: that the Americans actually were some of the nicest people
Speaker 3: I've met some of the most talkative and I think
Speaker 3: to myself, like, yeah, your government is run by some
Speaker 3: fucking people, but people are nice. You know. I've run
Speaker 3: into a lot of Americans and they've all always seemed
Speaker 3: like very open people, very very speak easy. That's why
Speaker 3: I enjoyed listening to your podcast as well. It kind
Speaker 3: of gives a perspective of like, you have your government,
Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean that it's people.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, of course, I've always felt that way.
Speaker 1: I mean, it always depends. I mean, everywhere in the
Speaker 1: world is has you know, people who are jerks and
Speaker 1: people who are nice. I don't really the question of
Speaker 1: what makes somebody who they are is such a there's
Speaker 1: a multitude of factors, be it like you know how
Speaker 1: they were raised, and you know the country, and there's
Speaker 1: there's so much it's hard to it's hard to say like, oh,
Speaker 1: the people in this country or this or the people
Speaker 1: in that country or that. I mean, do you think
Speaker 1: Belgians are good? People? Are nice folks?
Speaker 5: Generally?
Speaker 3: I think we are, like especially in this city. The
Speaker 3: reason why I stayed this long I was born in Belgium,
Speaker 3: But anyway, it's because people are quite open here and
Speaker 3: quite talkative. But I think in general people in Belgium
Speaker 3: are a little bit closed off in comparison to the Netherlands,
Speaker 3: at least where they are more direct and more open.
Speaker 3: And here it kind of feels like you need to
Speaker 3: take like fifteen steps until you get to know somebody,
Speaker 3: and you cannot skip a step because otherwise I'll kind
Speaker 3: of find you weird or they will stop talking to you.
Speaker 1: Wait, if you skip a step, they'll find you weird.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Like, what does that mean to
Speaker 1: skip a step?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you got to go through that whole
Speaker 3: dance of who is this person and this and that
Speaker 3: you cannot over over share in the beginning. They'll kind
Speaker 3: of find you weird or are off putting. That's the
Speaker 3: feeling I have, at least in in in Flounders, because
Speaker 3: Baltimus is like three parts. You have like Flounders, and
Speaker 3: then you have Bologna, which is in the south, and
Speaker 3: then you have like Brussels, which is the.
Speaker 5: Capitol in the middle.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but people in Flounders I feel like they're kind
Speaker 3: of closed off. I feel more spiritually connected with people
Speaker 3: from the Netherlands or from the US or Australia like
Speaker 3: all kinds of people who are kind of really open
Speaker 3: and you can just tell your whole life story and
Speaker 3: it'll be okay and you'll be us buddies.
Speaker 1: But in no time, do you feel a stronger kinship
Speaker 1: two folks from US and Australia?
Speaker 4: Yes? Indeed?
Speaker 1: Interesting?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: So you've do you have you spent much time in
Speaker 1: either of those countries?
Speaker 3: No, neither neither. I think I'm gonna wait a little
Speaker 3: bit until a certain president is is done in the
Speaker 3: US and then I'll I'll take a look there. Might
Speaker 3: wanna see some nature parks and this and that. I'd
Speaker 3: love to see Australia too, but you know, traveling costs money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what uh? What's the what's the Belgian government
Speaker 1: look like? What are they doing? What are they worrying about?
Speaker 5: They're fucking up?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Oh, man, If the Belgian government is it's really hard
Speaker 3: to explain because we have like a Dutch part of
Speaker 3: French speaking part and then a German speaking part, and
Speaker 3: we have multiple governments. It's it's really too much to
Speaker 3: explain right now. Anyway, How are you doing, man? I
Speaker 3: haven't seen the Ukraine video yet, but I'm really excited
Speaker 3: to see that one. And I think what you're doing
Speaker 3: with this traveling around and showing the real side of
Speaker 3: people is a really great and admirable work. Naol.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I really appreciate that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to Yeah, I'm really really really trying to
Speaker 1: like make that my next thing. You know, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make it so that, like I mean, because I
Speaker 1: post that stuff now and people are like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: trying a new thing, and I'm like, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make it like no, that's the thing that I do.
Speaker 1: But it's going to take some time. You know, it's
Speaker 1: going to take a lot more videos. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to kind of keep my head down and focus on
Speaker 1: the work, you know. I mean, it's it's been taken
Speaker 1: too long to make the videos. So it's been fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love I love I love doing I
Speaker 1: love doing that stuff. I think I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: go to some Mali land next, and then.
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, India.
Speaker 1: I'd like to go to India. People like kind of
Speaker 1: talk ship on India a lot, and I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to see it for myself, like you just
Speaker 1: see what what the what the vibe is like.
Speaker 3: I think India has some tropical environments and I think
Speaker 3: that's good for a get go, right, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know the most of.
Speaker 5: The get gos.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I really I have to tell you
Speaker 3: something about geckos guitar. I have this guitar and I
Speaker 3: painted geckos on it.
Speaker 1: Oh that's really cute. Do you play guitar or you
Speaker 1: just have a guitar?
Speaker 3: I played the guitar. Yeah, I played the guitar, so
Speaker 3: I'll send it to you later on. I bought this
Speaker 3: trap and it had geckos on it, and then I
Speaker 3: thought like, hey, I'm gonna just paint some geckos on
Speaker 3: this guitar as well, in honor of the big lyle
Speaker 3: of the of the gecko.
Speaker 1: Thanks man, thanks man? Uh do you do you are you?
Speaker 1: Do you ever join in on the jazz jams?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did last week in a jazz club called
Speaker 3: the Hot Club. And it's like these free jazz sessions.
Speaker 3: I'm not really a jazz musician, not scholared, but it's
Speaker 3: like free jazz, so you can do whatever you want,
Speaker 3: just listen to the other people and just like it's
Speaker 3: its freedom.
Speaker 1: Man, cool cool. Who's your favorite jazz musician of all time?
Speaker 3: I think Chad Baker definitely, like John Coltrane, love him.
Speaker 3: Bill Evan's when you feel when it's raining outside, get can?
Speaker 3: I think in New York it kind of rains a lot,
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like jeary autumn weather. You got
Speaker 3: to pull out on some uh some Bill Evans I know,
Speaker 3: and then just stare out of the window, very melancholically,
Speaker 3: and it'll h.
Speaker 1: That's what I do. That's what I do with Simon
Speaker 1: and garfunkle Is. I go out and I listen. Dude,
Speaker 1: if you ever listen to the Only Living Boy in
Speaker 1: New York when it's like snowy and depressing in New York,
Speaker 1: it's a great vibe.
Speaker 5: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: I will remember that. I will remember that once I'm
Speaker 3: in New York. Hey, are you doing the I r
Speaker 3: L podcast soon? Because the weather is getting better?
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll go back to do the r L podcast soon.
Speaker 1: I just haven't haven't been in New York in a bit,
Speaker 1: so when I get back home, i'll do that. But
Speaker 1: what's your name again?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Peter, Peter Peter Sellers, Peter Pan Peter Griffin, Peter, Peter,
Speaker 1: Griff and Peter, is there anything you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Uh, just trust your gut and if a lot of
Speaker 3: people love each other, the world would be a better
Speaker 3: place to live.
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Peter, have a good rest of your evening jaunting
Speaker 1: around Belgium.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're under universe.
Speaker 1: Take care man, all right, that's cool. I'd like I'd
Speaker 1: like that. I'd like to be like a known guy
Speaker 1: around Belgium just fucking uh, just fucking bar hoping running around.
Speaker 1: Goes on the line every teaching you