WEBVTT - Becca & Thomas Return to ‘Paradise’ 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.920 What's up Happy Hour listeners. I'm your host, Becca Kufrin, 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:09.480 and this week is looking a little different because Michelle 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.960 unfortunately cannot be here. So I brought in the one 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:18.160 and only reinforcer himself. We got Thomas here. Welcome back 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.000 to Happy Hour. Hun. I thought I was gonna impersonate 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.360 Michelle and try to like skate that one by everyone. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.480 Do you want to pretend? Hey everyone, it's Michelle Young here. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.440 Welcome another week of Bachelor Happy Hour. You know, I 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.159 feel like you you couldn't fool anyone with this mustache 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.479 that you have going on. Yeah, you're right, that was 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.400 first and foremost. I polled us with a disrespect to 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.400 that one. Michelle's no one can take her place. But yeah, 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.320 I'm glad to be back. This would be fun. Yeah. So, 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.120 for those of you who may or may not remember 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.680 the last time Thomas was on Happy Hour, well it 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.600 was months ago now, but at that point he also 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.800 had a mustache. He once again brought the mustache back, 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.600 not just for Happy Hour, but four November. We've gotten 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.600 a lot of people dming us and commenting on our 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.399 photos on social about why he has the mustache. So 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.440 that is the reason why and for those who aren't 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:14.240 familiar with November, it's Men's Prostate Cancer Awareness month. Men's 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.319 prostate cancer is one of the leading causes and then 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.760 one of the leading actual forms of cancer that men have, 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.920 So it's just for awareness men got to support. If 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.280 I could grow mustache, I would in November. But we're 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.360 not here to talk about facial hair, as exciting as 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.160 it is. We obviously have to get into everything that 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.640 happened in Paradise this week because we, of course we're there. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.160 We made a very quick appearance down there to kick 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.959 off these Sabie Hawkins nineties themed dance, which we'll get 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.480 into because that was so much fun. But Tommy, before that, 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.920 let's just chat with people. A lot of you wrote 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.720 in some different questions that we'll get around to answering later. 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.640 But we've had some big life changes since the last 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.560 time you were on. Obviously we were in the house 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.920 and it is complete demolition in there, still going through 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:08.960 this renovation. But if anyone missed it, Thomas recently proposed 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.040 to me, even though we were already engaged. He popped 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.359 the question real first full circle moment there. Yeah, so, now, 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.880 oh my god, this is so funny think about it. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.360 So now I've been engaged, does it count as four 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.400 times now since I proposed to you? All I know 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.120 is I made a joke to Becca the other day 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.880 that she's one ring away from becoming Thanos and she 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.040 still doesn't understand the reference. I've never seen Marvel, so 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.600 I don't get it. I thought it was like the 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.959 Elizabeth Holmes Blood Company or whatever. But whatever it is, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.960 all I know is it feels good, and I'm glad 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.240 we got to celebrate that. And I'm glad I was 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.960 able to put a ring on it. Yes, exactly, So 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:48.800 what are you gonna say? I put a ring on it? 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:59.200 I put a ring? He did, yes, So obviously on 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.280 the show you saw us explain to my proposal to Thomas. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.560 But he did something really, really wonderful too when he 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.240 proposed to me. It was so cute. I kind of 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:10.880 saw it coming. I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't a 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.880 one hundred percent surprised. But what really got me. What 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.359 was super special this time around, is he actually had 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.400 the ring for a while. I don't even know how 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.040 long you can tell everyone for how long you had it. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.440 I learned for about three months before I did it, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.399 and it's one of those things. I would have done 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.400 it a lot sooner if you didn't want it so bad. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.240 Oh shut up. You made you put that in your 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.079 mind that I wanted doing so bad. But it was 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.760 actually really cute because he took a ton of photos 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:41.280 behind the scenes, behind literally behind my back when I 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.640 was taking naps or cooking or just preoccupied, and put 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:51.040 this whole photo compilation together of this ring. It's been everywhere. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.360 He took it to Minnesota, it's been to different towns. 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.320 When she says preoccupied, that might be a little bit 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.680 of a generous statement, it's more so when she just 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.920 had no idea that I possibly would have a ring 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.480 on me. I mean we were in very public situations 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.960 like standing on baseball fields and at restaurants. He just 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.920 had no idea, And it was it was a game 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.520 to me almost at the end, and it was it 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.360 was that's probably why you wanted to keep it and 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.400 not put it on the finger, first little challenge to yourself. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.120 There was one point where I kept trying to see 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.599 how far I could push that envelope, and I was 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.080 convinced I was an end of proposing just on that 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.360 one instance, you turn around and you catch me trying 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.120 to take a funny picture. Well, I did almost see 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.520 it once. There was one time where I was picking 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.880 up the dog poop out of park and Thomas. Thomas 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.239 was holding a cup of coffee and it was behind 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.000 the cup of coffee on his thumb and I thought 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.840 I saw something sparkling and I was like, what is that? 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.680 But it was like seven in the morning. Again, I 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.480 was picking up dog poop. I was like, he's not 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.800 going to her pose over dog poop. Actually you probably would. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.200 I wouldn't be surprised. But that was the only time. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.280 I mean I did see it not knowing what it was. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.640 It was a funny picture. Yeah, I had to go 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.600 for it. Really added to that compilation. Yeah, it was great. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.720 Um yeah, so we like, like you just said, we've 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.400 come full circle. So it's been really special. Um. Fun 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.240 to finally share it with the world and be able 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.520 to wear this baby on my finger. It was getting 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:21.800 a little lonely. Um. So that's that's our life right now. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.040 Things are good, um and excitingly, she hasn't hit me 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.080 with that ring yet, seeing that the house isn't done yet. Well, 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:29.720 I did actually punch you in the face when we 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.920 were sleeping. You said that was an accident. It was 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.040 wink wink, No, it was um. But this is a 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.919 great time. I think, let's just get into paradise because 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.560 that's where we met, that's where we fall in love. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:48.360 We wouldn't be engaged today without those beaches of paradise. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:54.200 So um, a lot went down and we saw the 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:59.719 aftermath of Rodney leaving. Um, let's let me just ask 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.600 you what we're like some top moments that stuck out 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.400 to you besides our moments like when we were down 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:09.839 there of this week, I would say my biggest takeaway 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:15.239 immediately was the strength of Brandon's words of affirmation towards Serene. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.560 He has an ability to turn any scenario into a 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.080 way to just profess his love to her, and it's beautiful. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.440 Like it's to the point when everyone's beaten up rod 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.440 and he's gone, everyone's just hurting. He just looks her 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.840 in the face, just like, this is why I'm so 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:32.840 blessed to have you. This is why I love you 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.120 so much, is why it's so special to me. I'm 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.839 picturing they're sitting there having breakfast and he gets an 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.160 omelet or something and it's like these ingredients in here 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.880 they just mixed together perfectly. This is amazing. It reminds 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.280 me of us. I'm so lucky to have you. You 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.360 know who you know who? Brandon runds me of who you. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.560 I'll take that man is ready to get engaged. That 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.240 man is ready to find love, to live love, and 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:59.240 he deserves it. No, but he really, truly, like ever 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.840 since him, not even on a chelseason between him at 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.120 the beginning of Paradise, he actually did remind me of you, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.080 and I agree. I think that they obviously they're the 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.240 strongest couple on that beach right now. I mean we 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.600 saw firsthand, but I think that in that moment that 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.520 was like the first time we saw Brandon really break down. 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.800 Obviously he was in tears for Rodney leaving, but the 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.400 fact that Serene was there to comfort him and they 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.800 just had this moment where they were like, I don't 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.600 want to be with everyone else who want to be away, 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.160 and just like lean on each other. I think that 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.440 helped their relationship because they haven't really I mean, they 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.680 haven't themselves really been tested, but I think it was 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.680 a good strengthening moment for them. Let me ask you 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:40.840 a question on that. You said they haven't been tested yet, 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.920 But to me, it's almost like they haven't even had 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.000 a reason to be tested yet because they're just so 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.280 set forth on loving each other. Would you say that's 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.640 almost a test in itself, that nothing coming to that 0:07:53.720 --> 0:08:02.600 beach can deter them. Well, I think, I mean, when 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.120 you're living on that beach, there's not really tests unless 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:11.440 they're like dramatic show planted tests, right, like they'll be 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.920 tested in the real world. I'm sure if they're sold 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.840 together in this moment in time, like they're probably being 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.000 tested outside of the show. But they haven't. I mean 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.520 they they it's not like they've had to go through 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.560 seeing each other go on dates with other people, like 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.200 since day one, since like our one, they were so 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.680 into each other and like adamant for one another that 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:36.160 they haven't like had to they haven't had other forces 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.599 come in to test them. Does that make sense? And 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.199 that's why like Rodley leaving, it wasn't even drama for 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.400 them and their relationship, but it was just a hard 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.000 moment that Brandon had to get through that Serene was 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:51.960 there for. That makes back. Maybe we're not making any 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.480 sense and their listeners are going to hear us be like, 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.920 what the hell are they talking about? But yeah, that 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:02.040 was a cute moment. I want to get into Logan 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:06.160 and Kate's relationship because I know you have your thoughts 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.240 on it and your opinions watching it. I heard, I 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:13.920 heard the comments. We have talked at length about their 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.520 relationship on this podcast a few times, and I feel 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:22.360 like each week it just keeps kind of what's the word, 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.840 like snowballing in a bad way. They just I don't 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.080 think are ever going to be on the same page. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.040 There's a couple of things going on. It's their love 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:35.680 languages are completely different. One of them is that Kate's 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.120 love languages. She wants Logan to get a laptop, logging 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.080 Indeed dot com and start applying for better jobs immediately. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.160 And two, it's just they don't see I had eye. No. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.640 I think they're just I think they just want different 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.520 things in life. They're at different places. But I don't 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.960 think the way that they communicate about those things is ever. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.920 It never makes sense. They're never on the same page, 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:05.319 and I quite honestly feel like Logan is getting the 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.839 short end of the stick on Paradise. I felt so 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.320 bad for Logan in these two episodes on multiple fronts. Yeah, 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.000 one of the conversations he has McKay, it just sort 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.719 of pinned against the wall with nothing to do. And 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.160 then two when Gabby and Rachel came down. I come 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.480 from almost a biased perspective on this because I know 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.520 if we were in a situation on that beach and 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.040 the lead from my season came down, that would not 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.679 be anywhere close to an accurate representation of who I am, 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:35.319 right and that Logan was in that exact scenario. And 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.839 although history sort of repeated himself from his season with 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:44.480 Gabby and Rachel to his time switching between partners and Paradise, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.880 but he wasn't really like would you say he was 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.559 switching between partners because he never really established anything substantial 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.240 besides maybe with Shane, but Sena was also going on 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:59.760 other dates with people. That's exactly my point because although 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.559 it's not that substantial in Paradise, in that scenario with 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.440 Kate and she's hearing those things from Gabby and Rachel, 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:11.120 that almost has Kate even go further out. Yeah, Yeah, 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.960 I definitely felt bad for Logan in that moment, especially 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.560 when Rachel was talking about it because Rachel has one 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.520 experience with him and that she can have her own 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:24.240 takeaways from her season and what he did. And that's fine, 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:28.520 But ultimately I feel like it was getting close to 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.800 like really bashing Logan for something that didn't need to 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.640 be that extreme like it made I think if I 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.360 was Kate, I would have been like, oh my gosh, 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.120 like Logan's now seems like this terrible guy. I don't 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.040 know what who to believe or what to think, which 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.480 in reality, like wasn't even that big of a deal. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.360 I don't think, so I just felt yeah, and then 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.720 we saw like this small glimmer of hope for him 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.960 when Lindsay came down and I thought he was going 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.600 to say yes to going on that date with her. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.240 In Partnery was like, do it, bro, just go on 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.760 that date just like see because you could tell that 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.720 they were both intrigued and interested. But I think only 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.600 out of respect for Kate and not having not wanting 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:13.520 to potentially deal with the exactly yes your words. But 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.880 I think that's that the reason why he said no 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.480 to Lindsay. I think had Kate, had he not had 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.679 a conversation with Kater, had she not just been like, no, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.679 don't do this. I think he would have explored it absolutely, 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.880 because when Mary came in and she asked him directly 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.480 about that, he said, no, well, I think it's too 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.080 late in the game to consider these dates. Yeah, all 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:39.400 of a sudden, Lindsay goes, oh, what's up? Yeah, yeah, 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.280 I think they were both interested. I you know, at 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.319 this point in time, I don't know what happens to 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.400 Logan and Kate after this, like we'll find it at 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:51.240 three Union. But I wonder if now there's a world 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.800 where Lindsay and Logan could work out potentially, if that 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.880 hasn't happened yet, you know, maybe you guys need to 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.680 slip into each other's ms. We'll see what keep us posted, 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.280 because I would be interested in this. I would I 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.800 would like to see where that could maybe go this 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:13.719 episode um us going down there obviously, which actually is 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:19.120 a good segue to get into just Senia and and 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.800 Andrew and NC. But there was one thing I wanted 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.319 to say overall before we get into that and our 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.640 time down there is this show, and maybe it's just 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.600 been more apparent in these Maybe it's been more apparent 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:38.760 in this season because I feel like there's several toxic relationships, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.800 but I feel like, what who's displaying any sort of 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:49.599 toxic relationship? Okay, obviously elephant in the room, Genevieve and 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.719 Aaron also caton logan. I feel like every time we 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.800 see Aaron and Jen have a conversation and it doesn't 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.199 go as planned and it turns into a fight and 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.240 she packs her bags and she leaves and she's ready 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.440 to get in the car down the jungle, like they 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.720 have this moment where like he seeks her out. They 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.560 talk about it, which they really they never really get anywhere. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.800 They like put a bandit on it for five minutes 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.080 make out. Yeah, I agree that we both can agree 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:22.560 watching their relationship unfold is both itchy and painful. It's 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:26.160 painfully itchy, painfully itchy. So let's jump back and sort 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.160 of look at what's going on with another couple. Like 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:33.160 you were saying, Andrew NC, what's going on there? Well, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:40.200 I thought after just sending Andrew's conversation at the end 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.440 of episode one, after he went on the date with NC, 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.520 I thought that was like I thought the book was closed, 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:52.440 the chapter was over. It seemed to me that Gesenia understood, 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.600 now you know Andrew might not be into her, he's 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.600 seeking someone else. Like, Okay, we have the closure we need. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.160 That's why. Then the next episode, especially like when we 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.560 were down there, I was surprised that it was still 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:09.440 an ongoing issue between them. I was shocked because when 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.520 we got down there, I didn't even know Andrew had 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.840 any sort of history. It seemed like he was with 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.160 NC and that was going on when we initially walked 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:21.440 down Yeah, yes, yeah, let's get into that too. Okay. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.280 So when Thomas and I were first asked to go 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.720 on to Paradise, honestly, we had no idea what we 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.960 were going to do until we were in Mexico. We 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.200 were just like, hell, yeah, get us back down on 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.200 that beach. We want to like make new good memories 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.240 there where we you know, we met there, but we 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.520 didn't leave there together last year. So we were all four. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.240 We were so excited just to get back to the 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.120 place where we met and equally as sweaty as we 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:51.360 were the first time. So sweaty, but it was so fun. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.760 We had a blast. It was really cute to see 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:59.160 Thomas too, like take everything in now, like from this 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.360 point of view where it was, it was so much 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.080 more relaxing. We knew like once we got there that 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:07.640 we're gonna be kicking off the day. But we were like, 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:09.760 we don't have to be part of the drama. We 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.920 don't have you know, we don't have to like figure 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.880 out our relationship. We know where we are. It was 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.840 just way more relaxing. We were like, we're not part 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.000 of these stories, Like we can just kind of have 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.440 fun and give advice and mess around and get the 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.760 tea whatever. But it was so special to be back. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.200 We definitely had some highlights. We ate way too many 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:35.760 chicken nuggets and French fries still, that is. That was 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.760 the one thing where like if we're coming to Mexico, 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.120 can we please have the resort make us chicken nuggets? 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.120 Because that is what everyone used to eat every night 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:49.360 before roast ceremonies, well actually every day. And so yeah, 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.400 everyone wants to know what like the Paradise diet is, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.440 what do you do for a paradise pod nuggets, nuggets, 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.320 french fries in a hot take? You ask for a 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.480 side of honey and you get those in the That 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.320 was that was not a mean thing. Um. Yeah, So 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:10.800 we get there and we we were kind of I 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.280 would say not hesitant, but like a little nervous walking 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.680 in because we didn't know what we were walking into 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.200 first of all, and we didn't know who was still 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.120 going to be there. We didn't really know who would 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.800 be dating who, and we walk in and of course 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.919 everyone's like always on guard. I feel like when new 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.000 people walk in, they're like, what girls are? Guys are 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.560 coming in to like steal our people? And so I 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.560 think once they saw us, so like, oh we're good, 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.920 we're safe. Like these people are already basically married and 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.240 like to go to bed at eight eight pm, So 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.320 we're set um. But who was most who were you 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.880 who most extended to see? Well, looking walking down those steps, 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.920 I was hoping to see Rodney, so that one, that 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.760 one really hurt. Yeah, shame was plugged Rodney for Bachelor. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.280 Yeah he's been wanting to say that for a while, 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:54.959 so say it one more time, louder into the mic. 0:17:55.240 --> 0:18:00.280 Rodney for freaking Bachelor. That man deserves the world. He does, 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.679 he really does. Yeah, we were bummed he wasn't there. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.560 And then secondly, I was I was looking forward to 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:08.040 see see all my guys. I mean Andrew, he's always 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:12.880 delight to see Michael. Michael literally jumped into my arms 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.800 and he baby koaled me, and it just felt right. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:20.119 I was excited to see Aaron. I know, Aaron to 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.360 me is one of the funniest people who I've I've 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.240 been around on the show or just in life general. 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.760 He's hysterical. I'm gonna ahead and say it, Aaron is 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.159 nectar it personality wise. Would I want my daughter to 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.120 day Aaron. Absolutely not. Oh, I would put a chastity 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:41.040 belt on him. Yeah, but what I get Absolutely No, 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:42.720 I'm not gonna put a chassis belt on him. But 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.960 I was excited to see everybody. It was a little 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.560 disappointing to see a lot of the people I cared 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:54.000 about in some pretty tough situations. Yeah, yeah, we I 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.119 mean I was. I was hoping to see Rodney. I 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.320 still wanted to see Justin two. Those were some guys 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.080 on tour with me that I got super close with, 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.440 so I was bummed that they weren't there, And it 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.280 was interesting. It was actually some of the couples I 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:12.080 would say we expected, Like definitely Brandon and Serene. I 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.120 just like had a feeling going in that they would 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.200 have hit it off, and I wasn't surprised to see that, 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.840 but almost all the other couples I was shocked by 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.280 who shocked you the most when I walked down those 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:28.320 steps all of them? Johnny and Victoria Fuller I think 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.840 was the biggest shock. Yes, that one was interesting, definitely. 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.399 I'm trying to think of who else and that was 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.439 the thing because I feel like, okay, let me think 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.920 of who else was coupled up. So Michael and Danielle. 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.400 I was not shocked by that. That one made sense 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.119 to me. That makes a lot of sense. They are 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.720 cute together. And one of my favorite things Daniel's actually 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:59.840 said that made me verbally say all that was not 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.040 a willing thing. It just came out of my body. 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.520 But when Danielle was saying that she wants to be 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.080 there both for Michael, oh yeah and James, Yeah, like 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.080 my freaking heart, are you kidding me? That was amazing. 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.200 So I'm glad to see they're going well. We had 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:18.960 Chaney and Joey. Chaney and Joey yep. I didn't expect 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.000 that one. I didn't even I had no idea who 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.320 the twins. I like kind of well, when we went 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.000 down there, we didn't know who the twins were because 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.280 Michelle and Gapper whoa Gabby and Rachel's season hadn't aired yet, 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:33.840 so we were shocked by them. Brinie and Tyler. Brinie 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.000 and Tyler seemed good together, which they were really cute 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:40.879 together and seeing Andrew, so that was the thing, like 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.600 when we saw them, they seemed great together. They were 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.600 holding hands as they were walking away, So to Thomas 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.639 and I right away were like, oh, they've it seemed 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.160 like they had been together for a while, a lot 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:55.400 longer than the two days that we'd later found out. Yeah. Yeah, 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.919 and we and like from what we gathered just from 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.920 talking with everyone, the whole Dyssenia Andrew relationship didn't really 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:06.520 seem like a relationship. It didn't seem strong. It just 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.080 kind of seemed like, you know, they had given each 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:14.440 other their roses, but it was very noncommittal, not serious, 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:18.680 and so we thought him and ency were fast forward 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:20.200 to the end of the night though we had some 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.560 conversations separately and I could tell, we both could tell. 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.440 I think Andrew was not over Teddy, absolutely, like he 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.760 was still bringing up Teddy even though Teddy wasn't there 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:33.479 and had left three what three or four weeks earlier 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:34.879 prior to that, and I was like, why are you 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:36.920 still talking about Teddy if she's been gone this long. 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.920 So it makes sense in hindsight of like why he 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.639 finally removed himself and went home because he needed that 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:45.919 closure from her. Absolutely, And it's in his body language. 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.160 I mean, look at when he's talking to the girls 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.640 up until Ncy. He's not even making eye contact. He's 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:53.840