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Speaker 1: Da Around the NFL Podcast wants to go to Disneyland

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Speaker 1: with Bruce arians Well, welcome back to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis,

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Speaker 1: and I am joined by a room filled with heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Roseltal. What's up boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan, I'm not sure what that was about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe we're a year late on going to Disneyland with Bruce.

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Speaker 1: Bruce has got some things to work out. She didn't

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Speaker 1: We're all excited about Disneyland. Greg went to Disneyland recently. Hey,

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Speaker 1: but Bruce, stay in the Cardinals facility. Figure this situation out,

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Speaker 1: Especially on a short week. It's not really gonna have

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Speaker 1: time to go Sydney. You said you spent the whole

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Speaker 1: I was. What can I I don't want to. I

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Speaker 1: know we have a lot to get to, but what

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Speaker 1: certain snack bar that has you hooked. No. Last well,

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago, I had some friends in town from Utah,

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Speaker 1: and then last week it was mostly out of boredom.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. Nothing else going on.

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Speaker 1: possible explanation. This is that old adage, don't ask questions

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Speaker 1: heard the show before. Um, but I heard you guys

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Speaker 1: say listen, man, we gotta sit Mike down and have

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Speaker 1: a honest discussion. Is that it does imply that most

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Speaker 1: a lot of Mike's in the buildings. Suddenly feeling concerned,

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Speaker 1: there are like seventy whites named Mike in this building. Yes.

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Speaker 1: This is the Tuesday edition the Around the NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: sponsored of course, and brought to you by Mr Flames

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Speaker 1: Ah yes, ah yes, Monday night football from US Bank Stadium,

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Speaker 1: my favorite stadium in the NFL. Haven't been there yet,

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Speaker 1: came about, we didn't even know what to call it.

427
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Speaker 1: At first, it was just that you you West and

428
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Speaker 1: Greg specifically really fell hard for the Panthers, and that's

429
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Speaker 1: that organic moment where there's no turning back. That's how

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Speaker 1: I feel about the Vikings. But you can't manufacture from

431
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Speaker 1: all four of us, and I don't think we want

432
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Speaker 1: to try to make that happen in any way, and

433
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Speaker 1: so we've got to come We don't want it to

434
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Speaker 1: tear the podcast apart and all of us go down

435
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Speaker 1: and just write blogs for the rest of our life either.

436
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Speaker 1: So I think we at this point like we can

437
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Speaker 1: find a sensible solution. I don't think we're there this week.

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Speaker 1: Let's love this out there. I love the Raiders, this team,

439
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Speaker 1: um but I will I'm hearing what's going on in

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Speaker 1: this room and I'm looking. I sent out a poll

441
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Speaker 1: on around the NFL Twitter poll who should be the

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Speaker 1: team of a t L Over six thousand votes say

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Speaker 1: the Vikings um are subreddit are around the NFL subreddit,

444
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Speaker 1: which has over three thousand people on it, and everybody

445
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Speaker 1: should check that out. They voted in favor of the Raiders.

446
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Speaker 1: But I am kind of in the same place where

447
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Speaker 1: I could definitely get behind the Vikings, and which is

448
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Speaker 1: not to put on pressure on West, because I think

449
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Speaker 1: West has to if it's a couple more weeks, maybe

450
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Speaker 1: West where you need to watch a couple more games

451
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Speaker 1: and see if you can get in. Uh, and if

452
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Speaker 1: you can't, no hard feelings, we just won't have a team.

453
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Speaker 1: But I would be willing to go with the Vikings

454
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Speaker 1: as well, just a question. I noticed that I had

455
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Speaker 1: received zero um clapping feedback from the audience after my comments,

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Speaker 1: which just fine. I don't know anything about that. That's

457
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Speaker 1: a studio audience. We pay them, trying to control studio audiences.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I understand it's a dead silence man's room,

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Speaker 1: all right, West or what are you worried? What are

460
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Speaker 1: you thinking right now? Uh? We're in the trust tree

461
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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I don't like the Vikings. That's where

462
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. Hmm, part part of me problem.

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Speaker 1: You know, someone said something that that Kevin Patrick tweeted

464
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Speaker 1: something that, you know, it struck me as so much true.

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Speaker 1: That kind of the fun of it is trying to

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Speaker 1: find the team itself, that the chase of it all.

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Speaker 1: So if the chase doesn't end, so be it. Hey,

468
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Speaker 1: here's the reality. I'm gonna root for the Vikings. I'm

469
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Speaker 1: gonna root for the Eagles. I'm gonna root for the

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers even though no one likes them. You're gonna like

471
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Speaker 1: the teams you like. I don't think you should root

472
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Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers though. No, I'm not getting up on them.

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Speaker 1: I will I will meet you guys in the middle.

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Speaker 1: I will do some homework. I'll go watch all four

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Speaker 1: Vikings games, see if my attitude changes, and I'll get

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Speaker 1: back to you. What more could you ask for? You

477
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Speaker 1: couldn't ask for anything more? And that's the that's the

478
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Speaker 1: type of attitude that makes Chris Westling what they call

479
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Speaker 1: in your culture greg a Mench's an uber mench. That's

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Speaker 1: I don't know what called super mench not anti semitism

481
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Speaker 1: today between this and that, what does that mean? Semis

482
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Speaker 1: the joke the crowd? What does the crowd have to

483
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Speaker 1: say about this crowd is the crowd is anti Semitic?

484
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Speaker 1: Actually I don't like. In fact, we don't like that.

485
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Speaker 1: Send this crowd out of here because we're done with

486
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Speaker 1: the team of a tall discussion and we're done with you, alright.

487
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Speaker 1: So there is the uh, the conclusion there that we

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Speaker 1: have three votes for the Vikings. West is gonna go

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Speaker 1: back to his think tank watch their last four games. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're playing, they're playing this week, you're asking me, Yeah,

491
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Speaker 1: I mean you're the fanboys. They do play this week?

492
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Speaker 1: Can play? I believe? Then they have that's correct. They

493
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Speaker 1: play the Texans and then the bye Mark knows their schedule.

494
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Speaker 1: There we go, So five games for West to dig

495
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Speaker 1: through and be a scientist on and then we'll let

496
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Speaker 1: you know. Uh, and who knows, maybe someone magically appears,

497
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Speaker 1: another team appears, but we seem to be narrowing things down.

498
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Speaker 1: Now we'll see what happened. So the Raiders are out.

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Speaker 1: I know what. No, in converse, I'll go watch Raiders games.

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Speaker 1: To me, no team, choose a team, you don't. It's

501
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: it's like a captain of the ships, just trying to

502
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Speaker 1: bring this thing back to port. And I I like

503
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Speaker 1: the Vikings. Greg likes the Vikings. You like the Vikings. Uh,

504
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Speaker 1: and West has an open mind on the Vikings. I'm

505
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Speaker 1: willing to say goodbye to the Raiders if if Greg

506
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Speaker 1: feels more strongly about the Vikings and you feel more

507
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Speaker 1: strongly about the Vikings, and West the Raiders don't really

508
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Speaker 1: do much for him. Well then, and then I I

509
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Speaker 1: gotta go against death. That's why I do like that

510
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Speaker 1: both teams represents sort of seafaring, hostile warrior types, which

511
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Speaker 1: is attractive. I like that. That's a good point. Let's

512
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Speaker 1: not close the door and the Raiders maybe they really

513
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: blow the doors off everybody, uh this week. But yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: by the way, Buccaneers a third seafaring chaotics fibe. So

515
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: it's a very right they might be who knows how

516
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Speaker 1: you sell me on the vikings with a nod to

517
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Speaker 1: their history a seafaring warrior. I mean, who knows Tom

518
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Speaker 1: Brady is coming back this week? Maybe that I would

519
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Speaker 1: vote for them right now? Oh I that thank you

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Speaker 1: for even saying that, because I get to do a

521
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: very loud veto pound the table. Never will whatever happen.

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Speaker 1: We have two votes for the Patriots, and that's all

523
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Speaker 1: you want to get. I don't know. Maybe you get

524
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Speaker 1: a third vote, but you'll never get a four. Works

525
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: a big Belichick fan. He just wrote a love letter

526
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Speaker 1: to him. Go ahead and mark it, do it too,

527
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: but I'll never vote. Yes, it would almost talk about counterculture.

528
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Speaker 1: Choosing the Patriots would be the truly surprising move that

529
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Speaker 1: we could do. Yeah, the mass populace and get behind that. Wait,

530
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Speaker 1: why are downloads down one million? All right, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: talk power poll folks. Uh, the first power poll of

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Speaker 1: this season. We bring this up. We wrote about an

533
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Speaker 1: article on this right, well, it was due about an

534
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: hour ago. And yeah, the one for tomorrow will be

535
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Speaker 1: published today late by me. Okay, September two, Greg Rosenthal

536
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Speaker 1: wrote a banger at one. Okay, it's like miss this one.

537
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Speaker 1: We needed to just get it up. And the Seahawks, Okay,

538
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks topped the around the NFL Power Poll. We

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Speaker 1: had a top five that we called our title contenders Seahawks, Patriots, Cardinals, Panthers, Packers,

540
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Speaker 1: And I'll just share the top ten with you guys.

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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers were at six, followed by the Bengals,

542
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Broncos, and the Raiders. That was the

543
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Speaker 1: top ten. And then let's just look at the bottom

544
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Speaker 1: five here. The bottom five were the Lions, Rams, Bears, Browns,

545
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Speaker 1: and forty Niners. So that's where we stood before the

546
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Speaker 1: first game of the season. And now what we did

547
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Speaker 1: was each of us did a ranking one to thirty two,

548
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Speaker 1: and then our satellite heroes, Kevin patra Um, who offered

549
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Speaker 1: some salty context with his one through correct What was Mark?

550
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Speaker 1: If you could, could you bring up what Patrick labeled

551
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: his first group of teams? Uh, it would be I'd

552
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: have to like stop the show to go find the email.

553
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: But I can I can put into context for you

554
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Speaker 1: because I was, and I think I could give you

555
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Speaker 1: the exact word. Please do well. I was classic Patricks

556
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Speaker 1: what I like to call it. I found it. I

557
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: got it. This is obnoxious. Have a tea party. That's

558
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Speaker 1: pat That's his first category of the good players of

559
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Speaker 1: the good team. Right, That's that's your group of a

560
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: lead teams, you know anyway? So okay, So now after

561
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Speaker 1: four games, the four of us did a new one

562
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Speaker 1: through thirty two. Kevin patra Connor Or in his Haunted mansion,

563
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: which will get to his one through thirty two, and

564
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Speaker 1: then of course the great Colleen Wolf Connie Fox she

565
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: chimed in. So all told that seven UM heroes and

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Speaker 1: satellite heroes that all did a power rankings. And this

567
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Speaker 1: is what our new list what we came up with

568
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Speaker 1: as uh our updated power poll UM five through one.

569
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Speaker 1: Here we go, Steelers at five, Vikings at four, Seahawks

570
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Speaker 1: at three, Broncos at two, and Patriots at one. Uh So,

571
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: so there you go. The Patriots jump uh to number one.

572
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: The Seahawks were a number one team, they dropped to three.

573
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Speaker 1: But Patriots, Broncos, Seahawks, Vikings, Steelers our top five. Um

574
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Speaker 1: anything surprising there? Yeah, that's to me. I'm a big

575
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Speaker 1: Patriots fan. It seems silly to me to rank the

576
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: Patriots above the Broncos. Well, I know we're we're projecting

577
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady or something, because I think the Broncos have

578
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: been fantastic. Their defense is better than ever, and they're

579
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: more complete. The Patriots haven't had two of the top

580
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: five best players in the NFL. That's fine, but the

581
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 1: Broncos can't do anything more than they've done. They are

582
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: fifth in the league and yards per attempt passing, They

583
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: are a top five in the league and scoring. They

584
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Speaker 1: have one of the best defenses of all time. To me,

585
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: it's just like, what more do you need to do?

586
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: They just to settle you down just a little bit, greg,

587
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, looking at the overall outside of Connor, who

588
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: went completely off grid on this, three people picked the

589
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: Patriots number one. Three picked the Broncos. The issue is

590
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: that a few people had the Broncos down at three.

591
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Nobody had I guess it even out. It's it just

592
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: was a slight weight and it's not crazy. You're right,

593
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: it's not crazy. Yeah, if this was who's the best

594
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: team after four weeks, maybe the Broncos would be the

595
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: runaway number one, but were not. The way I are

596
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: stood to power poll is who's going to be there

597
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Yeah, I think you yeah,

598
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: they're the same. Different ways to look at it, And

599
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots, you know, latest stinker in week four,

600
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: I think, which maybe sticks in people's minds a little bit,

601
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: but three and oh where they were easily winning with

602
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks and without without close to undercent I and

603
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Speaker 1: I just think when you now, when you're adding in

604
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, the best quarterback in the league, well until

605
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Speaker 1: he starts his hashtag, then then things just get better.

606
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Speaker 1: And maybe gron I look at it like the Broncos

607
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Speaker 1: are starting Trevor Simeon the whole time though that's there's

608
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: no different you know, it's not like they should be.

609
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Speaker 1: So there's a ceiling at deposition where New England ceiling

610
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: is about at higher. But I know, and I know

611
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: the Broncos have an incredible defense. But you're really going

612
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Speaker 1: to say that Tom Brady and the Patriots with Bill

613
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: Belichick should be behind Trevor Simeon and Gary Kubiak and

614
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Speaker 1: the broncho I think the Broncos haven't. Their ceiling this

615
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: year is higher than it was last year, and they

616
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Speaker 1: were the world champions last but again, it costs the board.

617
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Speaker 1: Most people are agreeing with what you're saying. They were

618
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Speaker 1: the world champions last ye and they narrowly made the playoffs. Uh.

619
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Speaker 1: Here is uh won twelve games. I mean they won

620
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Speaker 1: the same amount of games as literally every team in

621
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Speaker 1: the league except for except for the if they don't

622
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Speaker 1: win that Bengals game, which could have gone either way.

623
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Speaker 1: There where they were in trouble. That's how it happens. Uh.

624
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Speaker 1: Here is the updated Uh let's see where we're in here.

625
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Speaker 1: This is confusing. There's too many lists. What do you

626
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Speaker 1: want to you have something? Uh? So, yeah, we had

627
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Speaker 1: the Vikings at four, the stealers of five, and there

628
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Speaker 1: here's six through ten. The Eagles undefeated, maybe hurt by

629
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Speaker 1: that bye week once again, Greg, that bye week really

630
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Speaker 1: doing a number on your nomina. I had them lower

631
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Speaker 1: than that the Packers at seven, which that's some respect

632
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Speaker 1: for the Packers eight number eight. The Falcons, how about that?

633
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Speaker 1: Where were they on the preseason power poll? Greg? They

634
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Speaker 1: were buried deep in the twenty one. That's got to

635
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Speaker 1: be one of the first big they were. They were

636
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: in the if everything breaks right category and really no

637
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: one else in that category other than the Eagles who

638
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: were twenty six on our really care much for your categories?

639
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: I prefer Patras. Where did you have the Falcons? West?

640
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: I had the Falcons eighth, so you're you're buying in.

641
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: I had him at seven, so I'm buying in on

642
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 1: him a little bit here. What about you, mark ninth? Ninth?

643
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: And where did you? Yeah? Right in that range, I

644
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: think there was a big drop off. I think there's

645
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: a drop off too after the Falcons. There wasn't a

646
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: close ninth to me. The Falcons are a flawed team

647
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: given up thirty points a game, but they have something

648
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: that's undeniable, which is right now the best offense in football.

649
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: The top ten closes out with the Cowboys at number nine,

650
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: who were on a three game winning streak. I like that.

651
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: I think they deserve a top ten spot. And then

652
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: you have the Bengals at ten West, where did you

653
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: have Cincinnati? I had him at eleven. Okay, I had

654
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: him at thirteen. What about you mark the Bengals? I

655
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: had them at all right, yes, range twelve. They haven't

656
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: really played great, But it's like, which teams below do

657
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: you really want to move up above those? Here? Is?

658
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: Here is now? Let's do eleven through uh twenty, Uh Raiders, Ravens,

659
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals at thirteen. Where were they in the preseason poll?

660
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: They were really high? Leave renumber three. Well, when you

661
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: play like uh, dog crap, that's what happens. The Texans

662
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: at fourteen and now without J. J. Watt, I'm a

663
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: little surprised there that high with what being out for

664
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: the year in Oswild are not looking great. The Panthers

665
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: at fifteen, right at the Dalton line for NFL teams

666
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: right now. A little but you know what, when you're

667
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: one in three, this happens that the Rams at sixteen, uh,

668
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: the Chiefs at seventeen. The Giants had a big chance,

669
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: I think, to jump near the top ten, but did

670
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: not get it done. In Minnesota. So they're at eighteen,

671
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: and then the Bills at nineteen, and the Jets, my

672
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: Jets at twenty. I cannot. I cannot defend the Jets

673
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: as a homer. I have them at nineteen. I think

674
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: they're probably not as bad as a one in three team,

675
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: but they're playing terrible right now, so they deserve to

676
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: be there. Any surprises there, uh, Mark Sessler? I don't

677
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: think so, because I think all this is just a

678
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: hodgepodge of kind of you know, sort of their teams

679
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: and lots with many issues too, with you know, super

680
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: Bowl hopes. In terms of the Cardinals and the Panthers,

681
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: not a Panthers one. Let's uh, let's call it what

682
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: it is. They're skewed down because of Connor roars, deep antipathy,

683
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: a little Carolina. I we we took a look at

684
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: Connors rankings. Let's bring up Connors rankings. I think it's

685
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: important to at this point, before we finish out the list,

686
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: um have a better idea where Connor falls. With his picks,

687
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: which were absolutely wild, some of them. They usually are.

688
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: What what do we have? Mark? Do you have them up? Yeah?

689
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: I do? I mean, all right, let's we'll start with

690
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: what Greg mentioned. He has the Panthers buried down at

691
00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: number twenty eight, um number spots behind the fort He's

692
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: even that they beat by third. And see that when

693
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: had seventeen wins last year, have not lost like anybody

694
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: who a season ending injury, A team that just in

695
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: a funk a little bit, one of the worst teams

696
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: in football. Well, and so so if he's down him

697
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: down to twenty eight, what there's got to be other madness,

698
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: and there is. He's got the forty Niners at twenty three,

699
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: which no one else came close to. That everyone has

700
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: at the Niners bottom feeding them. Let's get Connor on

701
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: the line here to talk about his list a little bit. Hey, Sid,

702
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: can we get Connor on the line while we're efforting?

703
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: I found why I diverged. I have the Ravens, as

704
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: is the fifth best team in the NFL. I have

705
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: them at eight. But a lot of people had him lower. Connor,

706
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: are you there? Yeah? I mean I've been on for

707
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes waiting for you guys. You called me

708
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: in the middle of a nap. Connor, you're taking naps

709
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: at six pm? He's an interesting Connor? Or are you

710
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: kidding me with this list. I mean, you know, how

711
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: do you define power? I see U I power is

712
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Cam Newton can't run the ball anymore,

713
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: maybe Derrick Anderson is going to be the quarterback. And

714
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: if if that's the case, then that team sucks, you know,

715
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: so I can can I ask a question how much

716
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: of the Carolina ranking here near the bottom of the

717
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: entire league has to do with your unending holy war

718
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: with desk editor David Eally. You know, I'm I've come

719
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: together with Dave on this. I actually told him that

720
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin I like him a lot. So I feel

721
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: like that was sort of me bridging the gap, um

722
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: and and doing some good stuff for my future at

723
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: the company. Didn't seem like you're bridging the gap. During

724
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: the Panthers lost last Sunday. During the game to Atlanta,

725
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: I had Julio Jones on my fantasy team, and I

726
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: think I had a beer at that point. So that

727
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: was you know, we're gonna get a little fired up.

728
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: You know, three points, that's uh, you know, our three

729
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: receiving arts, that's uh, that's May plus stuff right there.

730
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: Here's a window into into Connor's mind. Uh. In his

731
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: power poll. I want I want you to explain how

732
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders at eighteen are only one spot ahead of

733
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: the Jaguars at nineteen. What about that Jaguars performance in

734
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: London really got you fired up? They played better after London,

735
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: and I predicted this team was gonna be a nine

736
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: win team. I think they're gonna go in a little

737
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: run here. I expect Jaguars to start pouncing here down

738
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: the down the stretch. Wait how much I'm again I'm

739
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: gonna read into the mind of Connor a little bit?

740
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: How much of seeing the Jaguars in London? Uh made

741
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: you your memory jog back to a nostalgic time and

742
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: nostalgic bromance with Mark Sessler last year in London with

743
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars and you and you like them more

744
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: because you were thinking about that as you watch the game.

745
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: How about that? I mean, I appreciate the Nickel psychology here, Dan,

746
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: but you know, I think, you know, yeah, it was

747
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: a beautiful time in my life. But at the same time,

748
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a hard and football guy and these are

749
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: these are power polls. This is this is hard football. Connor.

750
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: You know we you have your fascinations and we're fascinated

751
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: by you. I'll say that, but when I see uh,

752
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, And this is a massive juxtaposition to anything

753
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: anyone else employed at NFL media puts on paper. You

754
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: have the forty Niners up at twenty three above a

755
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: host of teams, and I'm I'm struggling for beyond your

756
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: fascination with Chip Kelly, a reason for that five spots

757
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: ahead of the Panthers, five spots. I I think they're

758
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: gonna go on a run, you know. And uh, this

759
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: pull is all about power, and uh, power is in

760
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: my hands, right, power, And that's what I do to

761
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: or false Connor your power. Poll rankings can be bought,

762
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: bought with coverage, bought with nice you know conversations. Yeah, wow,

763
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: that's some fighting. Did you use the phrase he's only

764
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: scores to describe cars? EVO scores the poor Chargers here

765
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: at twenty nine. There is there's another theory I'm working

766
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: here that this is Connor used to cover the New

767
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: York sports teams, the Jets and Giants. This is kind

768
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: of like the tabloid reporter in you it here too,

769
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: just you want to goose the ratings a little bit.

770
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: This will lead to maybe a TV appearance on s

771
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: n Y or something. Yeah. I mean it's been my

772
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: dream to go on Good Morning Football, so hopefully this

773
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: can happen. Uh, you know, just being ridiculous like that,

774
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm trumping it up. I'm making Power pulls great again.

775
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta We're not getting out of here.

776
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: You're the only one that we just talked about the

777
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: Patriots and Broncos sweeping everyone's number one spot except for yours.

778
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: The Steelers number one, which I don't entirely think is crazy.

779
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: I would just like to hear, why are you kidding me?

780
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: I loved this. This is actually probably one of the

781
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: few things I took seriously on that Power pol Um.

782
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: By the way, your results completely you know, reflect themselves

783
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: in the ultimate results, just well, well, it was amazing.

784
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: I was actually glad that my where I put the

785
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: Panthers I think dropped them to the appropriate Yes, but

786
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: I think it dropped them actually to where you know,

787
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of maths going on here. It's more

788
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: than it's more than I'm getting credit for it. But um,

789
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers was pretty amazing against the Chiefs.

790
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: Now that Levy on Bell's back. I love what they're

791
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: doing with that splot receiving the splot D'Angelo Williams in

792
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: the backfield. I think this team is going to be

793
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: unstoppable towards the end of the season. All right, well, Connor,

794
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: I think you've defended yourself quite well here. I think

795
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna go see how anyone I don't see how

796
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: anyone could have any questions about this now, now that

797
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: I've done this, I'm saying, you answer the questions. Whether

798
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: or not people have respect, and how you answer them,

799
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: that's up to the audience to decide. But thank you

800
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: for at least, you know, supporting your assertions with some

801
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: real data and defense. It's been It's been real fun, guys.

802
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: All Right, see you later, Connor? Or are you kidding me? Um?

803
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: We gotta we'll get Connor on again. We gotta check

804
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: in on his Madden franchise. He's a married guy now.

805
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still happening. Who knows. We

806
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: just gotta keep tabs on Connor in a way. Yeah, yeah,

807
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of important. Has he gotten through Citizen Kane yet?

808
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: Wasn't that next? Then? Yeah? I wish he's still on

809
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: the line. We'd asked him how that was gone. But alright, alright,

810
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: here is now the twenty one through thirty two again,

811
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: this is the average of all of our Is that

812
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: the right many? Thanks? Uh? Or is it the mean? No,

813
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: it's the average. Okay, it's not the mean. It's not

814
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: the mean would be West picked something up here, Mark

815
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: picked something weight on here, and the mean would be

816
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: I believe that's the median or the mean right in

817
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: the middle. I believe the average is putting everyone's results

818
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: together and averaging them. Okay for thee Yeah, mean? Is

819
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: the average? Like that? There? You advertise your your math

820
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: problems in high schoo Well, I I don't say much,

821
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: but I wasn't far behind you lured you into my

822
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: trap there, all right? Redskins twenty one, Chargers twenty two,

823
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: which I like that. This speaks to our um knowledge

824
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: of the game. We're not just gonna bury them all

825
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: the way down the list because they're one and three,

826
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: because they should be better than that. They've been very competitive,

827
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: the Colts at twenty three, the Saints at twenty four,

828
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: the Jaguars at teams, the Lines at twenty six, the

829
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: Bucks at twenty seven, the Titans at twenty eight. I

830
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: had the Titans at thirty one. Did anyone else have

831
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: them that low? No? You know you you took that price.

832
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: They're pretty close. I had them pretty close thirty nine,

833
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: the Dolphins at twenty nine, way down here, whoa Dolphins?

834
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: Twenty nine? The Bears at thirty and then we had

835
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: a two way tie for last place. And I would

836
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: consider this progress mark not alone in the seller. The

837
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: Browns at thirty one, tied with farty Niners. I mean,

838
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: I think it's fair your own for the last winless

839
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: team in the league. You didn't have a meaningless Week

840
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: one shutout over some team on national television, so you

841
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: are where you belong. I had them over four teams.

842
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: I saw something interesting if you just look at you know,

843
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: when teams were trailing in games in terms of games,

844
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: script and everything. The Browns, who were better than thirteen

845
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: teams in the league, and they haven't been blown out.

846
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: They've been ahead in all these games. They've been competitive

847
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: games back and forth. They haven't had some stink bombs

848
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: like a lot of teams have had multiple stinks. I

849
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: completely agree with you, but I have no problem with

850
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: the group putting them down where they are. I really

851
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: want I had them at thirty. I really wanted to

852
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: move them ahead of the Dolphins, who had nine. But

853
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: I do think you know, the Dolphins did beat them,

854
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: maybe didn't deserve it, But I think the Dolmins are

855
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: a little bit better. But the Browns, they've been competitive,

856
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: they've been fun to watch. To be fair to Greg,

857
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: you're right you had the Titans at thirty one, you

858
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: and Dan both. I Uh. I look at the list,

859
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: the original lists. I look at which teams are we

860
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: going to be the most raw about. I mean, the

861
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: Chiefs at nine looks a little or eight ahead of

862
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: the Broncos certainly looks optimistic. We botched the Broncos. We'll

863
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: see we own that we did botch the Broncos. Uh.

864
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: The Rams at twenty nine, I think it's early to

865
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: say that that's gonna be totally wrong. But twenty nine

866
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: is low. Uh. And then the Eagles. We no one

867
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: really saw the Eagles coming in. Where were you on that?

868
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: You could have saved them, you could have listened. I

869
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: had them to fourteenth and winning that division, But that's

870
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: not enough to goose them up a lot. Okay, all right,

871
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: there you go there's a powerball. We'll do another one

872
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: at the midpoint of the season, and then I don't know,

873
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: maybe we'll do another one after that, but it could

874
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: be the last one. At the midpoint, we'll do one more. Now.

875
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: It's just like once you get to the third quarter,

876
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: like what are we doing at that point? But it

877
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: is interesting to check out at the mid way point

878
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: where we are. Let's move By the way, that's why

879
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: football does not use quarter pool for three quarters of

880
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: this season, because nobody cares by that. We use it

881
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: for the first quarter because footballs are better sport than

882
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: horse racing, and everybody around the world knows it. It's

883
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: two thousand, not nineteen thirty three. Get out of the

884
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: depression with your quarter pool. WHOA, let's bringing the fire.

885
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: Horse racing was an inferiors for even in nineteen thirty three.

886
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: I don't care about popularity. You're talking about a man

887
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: riding an animal. That's ridiculous. Thanks you, Greg fair Points.

888
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: You know, hammering horse shoe like metals into their hoofs.

889
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: Started gonna be like, what are we doing society? Please?

890
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's move up. This is a show that

891
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: Mark and I used to watch late midlight Dear John, Yeah,

892
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: John lark Kitt, judd Hurst, judd Hurst, and you're the

893
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: same guy judd Hurst and Jerry Burns who works out

894
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: at my gym. Really yeah, good show, a good John

895
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: lar Khitt, Judd Hirsh. Couldn't be further apart. They're both

896
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: mostly you know, forgotten that actors, you know, and you

897
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: just shot down our landing spots for Bobby April and

898
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: you're able to take shots at actors are being out

899
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: of work like a little bit of hypocritical. Don't you think?

900
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: We wanted to do an NFL Now video where we

901
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: said landing spots for disgraced specialty and Greg was like, no,

902
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: he's got a family, and we're like all right, my

903
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: viewed as a market and Judd Hirsh, who had very

904
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: distinguished careers in television, very unfeeling. They were great, you

905
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: put me on the spot. I came up with something

906
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: of how they're similar. Anyway. Dear John was a sitcom

907
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: the eighties about letter writing or something. Anyway, Mark a

908
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: little bit of he got a Dear John letter from

909
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: his wife, Yes he did, and he had to start over. Uh,

910
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: that's not exactly what happened. With Mark Cesler and Bill Belichick.

911
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: But Mark did take out the pen and paper in

912
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: the early yetees and started corresponding with the then Cleveland

913
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Browns coach. And Mark, you wrote a killer long form,

914
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: one of the best, if not the best, that we've

915
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: seen on this website NFL dot com. Slash Belichick letters

916
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: is the vanity U R L. And can you just

917
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit Mark about this? Sell it baby?

918
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: Tell us about the Belichick letters. Well, I mean, I

919
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: think it's something I mentioned to you guys as far

920
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: as a year plus ago, that I had these letters

921
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: that um in a very lost time as a college

922
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: freshman in Miami, Ohio. You know, I followed the Browns

923
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: since night six and went to college as a freshman

924
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: in and really only went to Miami, Ohio. This sounds

925
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: ridiculous to a thinking person, but uh so that I

926
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: could be closer to Brown's telecast because they didn't there

927
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: was no I had no cable television back then, which

928
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: sounds equally ridiculous. The Jets and Giants, the Jets and Giants.

929
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: I grew up in the Tri Sitaria. Ever, everyone rooted

930
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: for the Jets and Giants. I was not on that train.

931
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: So I went to college UM to be closer to

932
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: the Browns with the express desire to to work for them.

933
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: I just like, I'm just gonna get through college. Everyone

934
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: talks about college is the best four years of your life.

935
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: Couldn't have seen it differently, and uh, I found myself

936
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: at Miami with eighteen credits as a freshman, and to

937
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: make a long story short, got saddled with a Japanese

938
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: class and something called Trees and Shrubs, which is a

939
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: study of Ohio based plant life. Who assigned you these?

940
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: Don't you choose the class? I? I, you know, I

941
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: don't want to put my parents on blast, but my

942
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: dad and I both agreed that taking Japanese would be

943
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: a great business move, and he and I laughed about

944
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: it many times since the houlture. Well do I don't know.

945
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: I thought that seemed easy to me, but traitorous horticulture

946
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: it was ridiculous. Within a month of both of these classes,

947
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: I knew that I was heat seeking d's and potentially

948
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: in f and I flagged Japanese. But that semester the

949
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: only upside in the classrooms. I took this study, this

950
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: class called Football Studies by the Miami Bohio football coach

951
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: Randy Walker, and it was fascinating and it was only

952
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: for half of credit and it was only for about

953
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: an hour a week, but it completely hooked me. And

954
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: it fed into everything that I wanted to do after school,

955
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: even though it was one eight, one twenty at the

956
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: what I was actually doing at school at the time,

957
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: and as a final project, um what you were supposed

958
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: to reach out to a football coach other than Randy

959
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: Walker and find out about philosophy and how coaching happens

960
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: and happens and all this stuff. And I had burnt

961
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: a lot of bridges with my high school coaches back

962
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 1: in Connecticut because I had written a series of rather

963
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: scathing articles about the team when I covered them as

964
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: a senior. So I said, if it, I'm gonna swing

965
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: for the fences and write Bill Belichick four hours away

966
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and I sent a letter and it was

967
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: like literally the only thing going on in my life

968
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: at the time. I was like, will he possibly right back?

969
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: And I think two weeks past or so, and he did.

970
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: And the envelope back then, you know, in a college

971
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: jorem me of little tiny mailboxes, and when I opened

972
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: the mailbox, and I pulled this letter out with the

973
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's letter head on it. I literally nearly just

974
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: fell to pieces and melted in the middle of my dorm.

975
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: And then from there I had enough um naivete and

976
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: Hubris to write him again and suggest which players he

977
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: should pick, even though I didn't even watch college football,

978
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: told him he should take O. G. McDuffie. You know,

979
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, Belichick was kind enough to write back, and

980
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: it just changed my impression of him because he was

981
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: getting killed in the Cleveland press for being and he

982
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: was to them a cranky He was Belichick. He's what

983
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: we think of him in the press conferences. But I

984
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: saw a very different side. And so the point of

985
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: this article was to find out did he write them?

986
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: Did someone else write them? Maybe his admin um and

987
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: I don't have a complete answer, but I feel that

988
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: he at least dictated them or the contact context of

989
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: them to someone else to write them if it wasn't.

990
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: And the long form again which everybody should read if

991
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: you haven't read it already, NFL dot com slash Belichick letter,

992
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: UH that we do have a bit of an updates

993
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: and breaking news about where you left. UH. This piece

994
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: at the end where you weren't sure you didn't have

995
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: any answers, but maybe you're starting to get a better picture. Yeah,

996
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: starting to because Linda Leone was his admin at the time,

997
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: and I at one point called the complex to try

998
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: to talk to Bill the day before they won their

999
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: wild card game and on New Year's Day against the Patriots,

1000
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: and she was very willing to patch me through, and

1001
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: I freaked out and said, what could I possibly have

1002
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: to say to Bill Belichick? So I just said I

1003
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: wish him all the best, and she seemed to understand

1004
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: who I was though, So I remember that conversation and

1005
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: I tracked down Lynda Leoni, who had previously worked for

1006
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels and now works for Nick Saban in Alabama,

1007
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: and she wrote me a very kind email, but she

1008
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to go on record, and I can understand why.

1009
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: I think that's part of probably, yes, exactly. But she

1010
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: um today after I sent her the piece weeks later,

1011
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: after talking to her the first time, she basically said

1012
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick had called her up, that he had

1013
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: read it the piece, and that day all she said

1014
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: was that they talked on the phone about that and

1015
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: that time back in Cleveland, so I you know, they're

1016
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: old friends, and I about that. I don't know. It

1017
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: still leaves me wondering, but I at least you know,

1018
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: you know that it's that Belichick has at least seen it,

1019
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: which is awesome. Yeah, and I would love it. I

1020
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: would love it if you know, maybe not now, Bills

1021
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: in the middle of another battle, this being the season,

1022
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: if one day you get in touch with Belichick, I

1023
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: would love. With the Patriots and they didn't weren't that

1024
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: um uh communicative with They were not making this long

1025
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: from shocker Throne of sleeves. But if the people of

1026
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots and understand where Mark was coming from in

1027
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: this and they read it that you guys could have

1028
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: a conversation, I would love that if that could happen.

1029
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: Never know, I think it will. I think in the

1030
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: off season he'll reach out. The Belichick part of the

1031
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: story was secondary to me. I identified so much, and

1032
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: it took me back a trans parded me to those

1033
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: years and I was exactly like you, so wayward, directionless

1034
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: and so obsessed with sports that I had no I

1035
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: had no idea what the future would hold other than

1036
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in sports in some way. I just

1037
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: have no idea how, and you put off all adult responsibilities.

1038
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: You make the worst decisions, You take classes, skip classes,

1039
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: have no nothing going on in your life because you

1040
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: just are so obsessed with sports. And that's what came

1041
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: through to me. Yeah, that was a huge part of it.

1042
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: I think the Belichick side actually was the b storyline

1043
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: in it too. I mean, it's not the way the

1044
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: NFL is gonna obviously correctly sell it a certain way

1045
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: to their audience. But it was really hard to write. Um.

1046
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: I wrote it in a die bar. It lost and

1047
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: found where where I don't think Gregor has been there,

1048
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: but Dan has occupied that space that anyone's ever done work.

1049
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: They were stunned. I was off in the corner for

1050
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: about seven hours, um, you know, with headphones on writing

1051
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: it and just in a notebook because I didn't want

1052
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: it was such a different time that I didn't want

1053
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: to sit in some sterile computer and write it. I

1054
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Speaker 1: had to remember and think about it, and they were

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Speaker 1: not really easy times. Because as much as you can

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00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: look at where all your friends are now and things

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Speaker 1: work out okay, to the most part, it was a

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Speaker 1: really I went to three colleges and three years and

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Speaker 1: probably drove my parents. Absolutely, they were. They could not

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Speaker 1: have been. They're very supportive, they always have been, but

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Speaker 1: they were, obviously, I think, as I would now thinking

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Speaker 1: about my own child doing that, very concerned because I

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00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: would have these pay phone calls with them where I'd say,

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Speaker 1: my goal is to work for the Cleveland Browns and meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: I've just gotten an F in Japanese and a D

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Speaker 1: in trees and shrubs, and they're wondering what on earth

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Speaker 1: is happening. And and that all came through. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're I think the way you felt back then all

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Speaker 1: comes through. And even though Belichick is sort of a

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Speaker 1: secondary part of it, what you said West, I think

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Speaker 1: that would resonate with a lot of people. How sports

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00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: can be that that pillar that, for whatever reason, you

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00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: just find yourself obsessed with. Maybe it's maybe it's to

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00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: distract you from the realities of that you're kind of

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00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: floating out there. And and it's cool to read these

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00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: letters for you know people, obviously just check it out

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Speaker 1: on the site Belichick Letters. You know, the letters from

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Speaker 1: Belichick are kind of great. I wanted to read your

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00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: your letters to obviously, it was great that you had pictures.

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Speaker 1: There's a car on fire too. That's all, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's all part of it. It was great that you

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00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: kept all this stuff and and I I didn't even

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00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: take Maybe I'm just naive, but I didn't even think

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Speaker 1: that he wouldn't have dictated it because he says it.

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Speaker 1: He says, he says, you can tell. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: your fellow students. I do manage to address each and

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00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: every piece of correspondence at least eventually kind of assume

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00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: he's just talking and there she's typing it. But but uh,

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Speaker 1: but it's cool. It's cool the information that he sent you.

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Speaker 1: I I've I've read everything that there is to read

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Speaker 1: about Bill Belichick. Um, I can you know I'm about

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00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: He's my favorite sports figure, I would say, of any

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00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: sport period in sports history. And it's cool. There's sort

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00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: of like a canon of like the great for me

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00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: in my own head of like the great things that

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00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: have been written about Baltchick or or anything. And it's

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00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: it's cool that one of my friends is now written

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00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: like one of those one of those pieces that that

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Speaker 1: absolutely belongs at the top of it. And it's really

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Speaker 1: more about It's really more about you. Two than than

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Speaker 1: just him, but but he's a it's all cool how

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Speaker 1: it works altogether. Twenty to twenty five years later, we

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00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: understand that it's it's important to have balance and perspective

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00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: in your life and have many interests, but you lose

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00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: something in that process. You lose that obsession a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And it took me back there. I really liked the

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Speaker 1: journey that you took us on to go back to

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00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: a time before you had adult responsibilities and when you

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00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: could make big mistakes that would send your life careening

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Speaker 1: in many different directions. Well, I definitely thought of I'm

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Speaker 1: not just saying this of people like you that had

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Speaker 1: a million jobs that we've talked about in other people

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00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: that I just remember, you know. It's it's funny because

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Speaker 1: there was no Facebook until a certain age in life,

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00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: and everyone suddenly is married and uh it seems to

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00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: have their act together at least online and then but

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00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: there was a wide birth of eight to ten years

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Speaker 1: where I was not the only loss, completely drifting individual.

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00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: There were a lot of them, and that made friendship

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Speaker 1: stronger and like it was also painful and amazing all

1121
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: at the same time. And it's it's cool because so

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00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: much of sports writing is all written from the perspective

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Speaker 1: of of a sportswriter, and and you are a sports writer.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is most people that they experienced sports

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00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: as a fan, they experienced sports in the way that

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Speaker 1: you wrote. Write this article. That's true. Make sure you

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: check it out if you haven't read it. If you

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Speaker 1: don't read this article from Mark and you listen to

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00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: this podcast, we will never forgive you NFL dot com

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Speaker 1: slash belotchick letters. That's it's a it's a homework assignment

1131
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Speaker 1: from the Round the NFL podcast to our readers. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know the podcast is free. We don't we don't

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01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: ask for much. But read that article. Uh. That is

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Speaker 1: if for today's show we don't have a Thursday night preview. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you really want to learn about our thoughts about

1136
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: this game, the Cardinals and and the forty nine ers,

1137
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: the Big Potential Drew Stanton, Blaine Gabbert Showdown, make sure

1138
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: you find on our YouTube channel, the NFL YouTube channel.

1139
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: We have a full preview of the game. We should

1140
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: be on Apple TV and whatnot to maybe my the

1141
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: power pull back in September. Not a banger. This videos

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Speaker 1: a banger. There you go. So that's how you can

1143
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: find out our thoughts about that. But then uh, come Thursday,

1144
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: of course you will have our recap of that game

1145
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: with Wes and Greg and then the all the week

1146
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Speaker 1: five games previewed. So that's the next time you'll hear

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Speaker 1: from us. Uh. So that's it. That's it, Mark. We

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Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to talk about you nailing the

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Speaker 1: firing of Phillies hitting coach Steve Henderson. You gotta get

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Speaker 1: to that tomorrow. Why do you say it now, ahead, Henderson?

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Speaker 1: Well this you know this when I call it? Word

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Speaker 1: of this. Um. You know, Dan, I'm not a huge

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Speaker 1: I don't watch a lot of baseball, but I have

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Speaker 1: a lot of sources inside MLB and I I just

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01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: kind of got the Phillies obviously a struggling team. You

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Speaker 1: want to let's just start right on paper. This is

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Speaker 1: a hitting coach that directed the twenty nine UH attack

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Speaker 1: in terms of hitting just a disastrous team out of

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Speaker 1: dirty teams twenty nine and on base percentage twenty nine

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Speaker 1: and slugging. I mean, right there, the resume speaks for itself.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's also Steve Henderson's inability to connect

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Speaker 1: with millennials and younger players. That's what I'm hearing as whispers. Now,

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01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: that's there's some people gonna have an axe to grind.

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01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: But also the team does not hit well. That's an issue.

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Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking, who do you think

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Speaker 1: on the team stands the most again from Henderson being

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Speaker 1: out of the picture, what I I know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: want me to list someone on the current roster, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, really, the best the best crop of

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Speaker 1: players to gain from this are their Triple A, their

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Speaker 1: Double A, their minor players, the players coming up that

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Speaker 1: are going to ut. They're gonna have better instruction going forward.

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Speaker 1: Phillies fans finally have some hope. Okay, name one player

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Speaker 1: in the Phillies, ed Cotch, ed Cotch third, you always

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Speaker 1: wanted to make his dad proud of you, like you're

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Speaker 1: the mayor while I'm in the big leagues. That's it

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Speaker 1: for Tuesday's edition. And on the NFL podcast, my name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hands, signing off for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the Boss, and I said behind the glass Now Thursday

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Speaker 1: two