WEBVTT - Baby Killer

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies.

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<v Speaker 3>These episodes are based on. These are our stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Dundun, Hello and welcome to That's Messed Up and SVU podcast. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I sound like a newscaster. I'm Kara Lank, I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>of your hosts, and I'm Lee's the trigger with the

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<v Speaker 1>traffic update. The bound edens is sumfered a bumper this

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<v Speaker 1>cold Tuesday morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's we're excited.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk sview true crime and I do have huge news.

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<v Speaker 3>I did beat Super Mario three. I did beat it Donna.

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<v Speaker 2>The quest that started when I was a child finished

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<v Speaker 2>decades later.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel a little bit like there's something missing

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<v Speaker 1>in your life now?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I feel so excited. I beat it like it

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<v Speaker 2>I like beating Bowser. Felt so good and it was hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the fact of the matter is in that final Castle,

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<v Speaker 2>there is like a secret life that you can get

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<v Speaker 2>so like you're not gonna lose lives.

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<v Speaker 3>You have enough.

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<v Speaker 2>It took me dozens of times like Bowser in that

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<v Speaker 2>final one is really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It was for me at least, but I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the prize you get when you beat it

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<v Speaker 2>is it starts over and you get unlimited pee wings,

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<v Speaker 2>And a peewing is a thing that you can use.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a special thing where it's a permanent wing.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to run to fly. You could just fly.

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<v Speaker 2>You just fly, and so you get to like if

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<v Speaker 2>something's really hard, you can miss it. So then I

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<v Speaker 2>played the game with unlimited pee wings, being strategic.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you need a hammer.

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<v Speaker 1>Suit sometimes, but I beat it like so fast, like

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<v Speaker 1>I a YouTube person, like I you were a YouTube person,

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<v Speaker 1>you were on Twitch, people were watching you, they were

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<v Speaker 1>tipping you.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like I just was never in a zone

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<v Speaker 2>like that where I just was dominating. And maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was the cockiness, Like I was cocky too because I

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<v Speaker 2>had just beat it and now I have unlimited pee

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<v Speaker 2>wings a lot like I just I just felt, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's amazing the world. So now I started, Yes, so

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<v Speaker 2>what She's Island?

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<v Speaker 3>I started?

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<v Speaker 1>Yoshi's Island's so funny because Rosie, you know, I told

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<v Speaker 1>you we have Super Nintendo, the little one that comes

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<v Speaker 1>loaded with all the games. Rosie's been playing Yoshi's Island

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<v Speaker 1>with Jared and Kirby. She loves Kirby. I love Kirby,

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<v Speaker 1>but learning a whole new universe seems hard to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's not really.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she's like he's just teaching her how to play,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really cute, like and Yoshi's Island was like

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<v Speaker 1>I love the little sound when Yoshi sticks out his

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<v Speaker 1>tongue and it's like like, I don't I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 1>it right. But like I was watching them play and

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<v Speaker 1>it was really cute. And I had not really known

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<v Speaker 1>about Yoshi's Island. So look, everyone's playing. I have Rosie

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<v Speaker 1>once again connected, I know. But also do you like

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<v Speaker 1>the baby Mario? Like Yoshi has a little baby Mario

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<v Speaker 1>on him. Yeah, but also I never saw this before

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't remember. Yoshi can shoot out eggs like

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie kept like Jared Keper it's Jed pressed down, poop

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<v Speaker 1>out an egg and Rosie was like, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing it. Like I was like, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>They get eggs? It's really it's it is silly, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm stuck on a really hard level though. So I

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<v Speaker 2>did buy the new Mario Mario. Otis wonder Mario. I

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<v Speaker 2>hate it the new game. There's so much reading, you

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<v Speaker 2>just keep having to go a like I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to read.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to read.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm ever a reader, even with board games and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always like, let's just start and figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I kind of like hate like all of the this.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop for a second and read this whole disclaimer before

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<v Speaker 1>we go on, Like I hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't want to read.

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<v Speaker 2>But yosha, I can't believe Rosie's playing. I gotta play

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<v Speaker 2>with Rosie.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to play. Oh, she's eland come play on

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<v Speaker 3>our little super Nintendo. Yeah, I'm stuck on this. I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't get out of this deep gem world. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, so I was in Portland opening up for my

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<v Speaker 2>friend Matteo, who's killing it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's so famous.

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<v Speaker 2>I said his name to the hotel clerk because I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to go up to his hotel room, and

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<v Speaker 2>the clerk next to her went gasped. And we went

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<v Speaker 2>out to eat, and you could just tell the servers

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<v Speaker 2>are just like smiling, they are gooning in the tricksy

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>People get really excited to see him. His crowds are great,

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<v Speaker 2>but you hate indoor pools. Yeah, let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you'd like the one at the Ritz Carlton

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<v Speaker 2>in Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you well, I don't think I've ever been

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<v Speaker 1>to an indoor Ritz Carlton pool. I'm talking indoor pools, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on the nineteenth floor and then the whole there's

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<v Speaker 2>no ceiling. It's all windows. You see the mountains of

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<v Speaker 2>port I've never seen Portland so beautiful. Okall glass shining

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<v Speaker 2>in It is an infinity pool still too, so it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like it's just the myning.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course a hota. But the ceilings were so high.

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<v Speaker 2>I took a video for you, and I made Mateo

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<v Speaker 2>take photos because I was like, I have to show

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<v Speaker 2>care of this indoor pool.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to make it to the Ritz, like we

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<v Speaker 3>got it.

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<v Speaker 1>We got one of these days Portland, buy no ticket,

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<v Speaker 1>just kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't even have a date in Portland right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, but the dining was too high up. We're like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you I want to just get dessert after the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I go, you know, I'd love to split a cheesecake.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was like mushroom fung guy Ice scream in

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<v Speaker 1>champagne glitters like, oh no, no, we had like a

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<v Speaker 1>pumpkin thing with noodle leath. It's just like we weren't

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<v Speaker 1>in the mood for fine dining, which if we were,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we wouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 2>But it felt like the menu. It felt like the

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<v Speaker 2>menu the way we were talked to, like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Movie, yes, yes, yes, Oh my god, when you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully and they're not going to murder me, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Amazing and that sounds so fun. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm so happy for Matteo all the success

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<v Speaker 1>he's found. You know, he and I used to just

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<v Speaker 1>go to dinner and speak Italian together.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, of course, I love that came up, that came up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always like, I'm oa like I love him so much.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wait, can I just really randomly change the

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<v Speaker 1>subject because I wanted to say something that just came

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<v Speaker 1>to my attention from some viewers of some listeners. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>remember how we just covered surveillance a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Zoe Deschanel, the stuff, Okay, so not shoe, Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Should I take that again? Sorry? Emily, No, you dis

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<v Speaker 3>respected everyone hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting in my mistake, I said, Zoe. I met Emily.

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<v Speaker 1>I met Emily de Chanel. Emily de Chanell, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's stalking her. They go to an internet cafe

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<v Speaker 1>and a little kid is like on the internet computer and.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like what this guy was just sitting here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking it is stuff and he's like looking,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fucking Nicholas Braun, the guy who plays cousin Greg

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<v Speaker 1>on Succession. Like you know, you know, I love IMDb.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to look up everybody his little kid. His

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<v Speaker 1>name's Nicholas Braun and in the show he's literally just

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<v Speaker 1>billed as kid. Like it must have been one of

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<v Speaker 1>his first roles of all time. And like literally I

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<v Speaker 1>think he was in one team movie and then he

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<v Speaker 1>was in his view.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny because he has these big chipmunk cheeks

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<v Speaker 2>in when he's a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so cute. Oh my god. Well I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen success I like Succession started almost twenty years later.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've seen the first three episodes, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know who the character is. We're in the time machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the fuck over at anyone listening.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think over the holiday break, maybe I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into Succession, maybe I'll just been.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try it again because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I tried it right after I had Rosie, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, these people are so evil and like this

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<v Speaker 1>is not evil, but like I don't care about these

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<v Speaker 1>people like selfish fucks. But I want to try it

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<v Speaker 1>again because, like I mean, obviously I love Seinfeld and

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the same promise. Well, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I really love is someone was telling me I read

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<v Speaker 1>a whole article, not someone telling it was probably on Vulture,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was about how in Succession nobody eats because

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<v Speaker 1>eatings for poor people like the like they're so rich

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<v Speaker 1>that the whole idea is like we can eat whenever

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<v Speaker 1>food is abundant, so I don't need to eat this

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<v Speaker 1>and they kind of judge people for eating at a

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<v Speaker 1>party or an event like that's looked down upon. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought that that is such attention to detail

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<v Speaker 1>that this show must be out of this world, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like, yeah, that is such character,

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<v Speaker 1>that is impressive thought process, Like I gotta I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>watch that now. I mean when it was ending, people

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<v Speaker 1>were like one of the greatest shows of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like the acclaim for it. People were obsessed.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just caught it at the wrong time,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just had a baby and was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is for me. But I'm looking right now on his

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<v Speaker 1>little IMDb he was just in twenty twenty two the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of someone named cousin Greg in a Simpsons episode.

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<v Speaker 3>In an episode he is murder dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I just found an article. It's a photo of him

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<v Speaker 2>with Maloney. I'm sure all the listeners know, since they're

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who told us, But he wrote it was

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<v Speaker 2>a very exciting role I played, I think a character

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<v Speaker 2>without a name, boy and Internet cafe because those existed

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. He goes, I was looking at a

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<v Speaker 2>video of a woman who got murdered or assaulted, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's the show. And then Christopher Maloney and iced tea.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, come and sit down. Why, yeah, we know

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<v Speaker 2>all this, tell us we know the episode. Sure, so

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<v Speaker 2>he said. Christopher Maloney didn't think that the kid was

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<v Speaker 2>that he was getting scared enough because they were cops.

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<v Speaker 2>So every time he would sit down, he would pinch

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<v Speaker 2>him in the ribs. And he goes every take, and

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day he thought he did

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<v Speaker 2>badly because there were so many pinches. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I love that. That's such a good, little fine,

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<v Speaker 2>a little easter. You know what I heard from our

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<v Speaker 2>friend Lauren that you were talking about me at a

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<v Speaker 2>party about how I won't shut up about Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, from Lauren Cook. Yeah, well no, I said.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, like, somebody brought up Taylor Swift and

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<v Speaker 1>I go, well, you guys know, Lisa's obsessed. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>now a fan through osmosis, Like I like, I know

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<v Speaker 1>every single thing that's going on with them because of Lisa.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there was a cheek kiss. They look cute. She

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<v Speaker 2>touched his face with her hand.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, someone I know just posted like a screenshot

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<v Speaker 1>of their Apple stories and it was like Gaza Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>cute cheek kiss between Taylor and Dress and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like that those were the three top stories on Apple

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<v Speaker 1>for the day.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we need.

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<v Speaker 1>We need it, We need it. Look, the world is dark,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on. We need a little cheek kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this relationship couldn't have come at a

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<v Speaker 1>better time for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>I am obsessed with Taylor, but we don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about her today. But also I've been so in

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<v Speaker 2>my head about Taylor that I was with some people

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<v Speaker 2>and Casey musk Graves started playing slow Burn and I went, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I like other people too.

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<v Speaker 3>I were forgot, Yeah, I forgot.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I listened to some Casey musk Graves and.

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<v Speaker 3>Her voice is gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she is so good and she's a pothead,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I do like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to get I would love to get high

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<v Speaker 3>with Casey. Must a little high with Casey.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wait, we have not talked in a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know this is time machine. This is so old.

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<v Speaker 1>We apologize, guys. Time machine days are behind us. We've

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<v Speaker 1>not talked about the weed Dinner on Beverly Hills. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for bringing that up.

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<v Speaker 2>I just We're obviously gonna talk about the Weed Dinner,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna be so happy about it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to say, LARSA. Pippen, your scum, your worst

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<v Speaker 2>than scum. You are the worst person that's ever been

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<v Speaker 2>on television, and I want, I want you off.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't. I've never been so sickened.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally yesterday got my hair colored by this. I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking her for three hours and I kept bringing

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<v Speaker 1>up Housewives and she I was like, wait, do you

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<v Speaker 1>watch And she's like no, and I go, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sick. Like I just keep bringing up people

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<v Speaker 1>to you that you don't even know. And I go,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know who Larsa Pippen is And she was

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah. She said one of my clients is friends

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<v Speaker 1>with her and says she's so sweet, but then said

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<v Speaker 1>one other thing, and I go, I don't. She's not sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>She's a bad person. Like I told her all about

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<v Speaker 1>the gurdy of it all, and I was like, they're like, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not a listener, I know we're talking in

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<v Speaker 1>code to you. If you're not up Bravo ahead like

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<v Speaker 1>we are basically Scotti. Pippens's ex wife, Larsa Pippen, who

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<v Speaker 1>is now a real Housewives of Miami, found out from

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<v Speaker 1>another cast mate that she had cancer. Said please don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell anyone. This woman Larsa told everybody in the group,

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<v Speaker 1>and then hours later, six hours later, when confronted, said

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<v Speaker 1>you never told me not to tell anyone, which it's

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<v Speaker 1>on fucking camera that you did. Also, if somebody tells you.

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't want you to tell my cancer story.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone you go, oh my god, I'm so sorry. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking I would rally everyone around you, but

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<v Speaker 1>in retrospect, that was the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>She just was like I was trying to get people

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<v Speaker 1>behind you, like you were gonna tell everybody anyway. She's horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>She's unrepentant asshole. She goes, you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to fucking accuse someone of faking cancer when

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<v Speaker 2>they are crying asking for compassion, and it is it

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<v Speaker 2>is beyond to me. Yeah, And at Bravocon, Andy gave

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<v Speaker 2>her the floor to redeem herself and look back, and

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<v Speaker 2>she couldn't. She And it's like you you're dating Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan's son. You were twisted. And you know, the rumor

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<v Speaker 2>of the Kardashian thing is there's an episode that Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Dissick has or someone that Chloe was someone I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was. Scott had like a skink in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 2>locked up like he was cheating or fucking someone he shouldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>and Kim in Vegas was like, I'm gonna fucking see

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<v Speaker 2>who it is, and open like got into the bathroom

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<v Speaker 2>and it was Larsa Pippen as.

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<v Speaker 3>The rumor, like I don't think, yeah, that's just a rumor.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if that's reddit, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but Larsa, like Jenshaw, is in jail for defrauding the elderly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather visit her in jail than even look at

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<v Speaker 2>Larsa Pippen in the eyes Brooks Brooks from OC lied

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<v Speaker 2>about having cancer. I'd rather suck his dick than Seesar.

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<v Speaker 2>That is how I feel. I am, like I am

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<v Speaker 2>to do that to Gerty.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't. I really, I really am upset.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really upset by but yeah, it's just it's really upsetting.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've never seen someone a housewife like this deal with. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>these women show us their whole lives. They do, they

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<v Speaker 2>really do. Kyle back to Beverly Hills. Let's go positive.

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<v Speaker 2>We dinner. We have Denise Richards fucked out of her mind,

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<v Speaker 2>wearing a jacket backwards, confronting.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I kept going, oh my god, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, rewinding it, making Jared watch he doesn't even care.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you gotta see this. This is so insane, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the whole the whole thing where she was going Erica. Now, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so again, if you don't know, this is just all

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<v Speaker 1>the women from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills go to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's house. All by the way, it should be called

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<v Speaker 1>the Real Housewives of Encino. None of them live in

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills. They're at Kyle's house and Encino and they're

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<v Speaker 1>having a weed dinner where like the it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>top not chef.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he hot food? He was hot?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's making them like delicious gourmet food with

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<v Speaker 1>THHD in it, which like I've eaten. I've had weed

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<v Speaker 1>dinners before. Like it's you get so high, it's so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dangerous because you keep eating because you're high, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you just keep getting more high. Like when I

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<v Speaker 1>did that one time, it was one of the highest

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever been in my life. But they they go,

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<v Speaker 1>I would recommend ten milligrams for you, and all they

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<v Speaker 1>go around and take all the women's orders and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do five, I'll do five, Durk goes, I'll do one.

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<v Speaker 3>I go one.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like you're standing next to a person smoking a joint,

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<v Speaker 1>like stop at.

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<v Speaker 3>Derey, Like, don't even do anything. If you're gonna do one,

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<v Speaker 3>and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would, of course, yes, do what the guy suggests, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they're all just trying to act like on camera like

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<v Speaker 1>we never well, no, yeah, in light's a joint at

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<v Speaker 1>the table, like, which was so for attention because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you honestly saying that? Well, I know, Lisa, you're

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<v Speaker 1>like this, you prefer the burn of the joint. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Sutton strack. I'm like, if you just

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<v Speaker 1>want to get hi, just eat the food, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you lighting up a joint?

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<v Speaker 3>You're like trying to get attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never just light up a joint at a

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<v Speaker 1>dinner table in someone's home. I'm sure, she asked off camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. They all looked confused, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so rude, like Sutton's all about manners. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I do. I I had the feeling that she

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<v Speaker 1>said I was told I could. I thought she said

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, so I was like, Okay, no pill

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<v Speaker 1>or doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>So performed performance.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Denise Richards, who is not on the show

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<v Speaker 1>anymore and hasn't been on the show in two years,

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<v Speaker 1>is at the dinner comes with Camille Grammer, Kelsey Grammer's

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<v Speaker 1>ex wife. Again, if you're not watching these shows, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's wrong with you. Listen to our description.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. Like Charlie Sheen's x's wife shows up with

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey Grammar's ex wife that are both former cast members,

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<v Speaker 1>and they Denise says like drunk on pills. Something's up

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<v Speaker 1>because I heard her order she didn't order any of

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<v Speaker 1>the THHC. She said she didn't want any, so she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't high.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet it. I bet it was pills an alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pills an alcohol to me always and so

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<v Speaker 1>and she's calling Erica out Erica Jane for something that

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<v Speaker 1>she did but won't say what it is. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know, you know, I eat it, watch

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<v Speaker 1>the show, watch the show, breaking the fourth wall talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the show. And then Eric apologizes and she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Denise says thank you and you're welcome to herself, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>They cut right to the chef, going, yo, Denise Richards

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<v Speaker 1>is so fucked up right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That whole like two minutes made me laugh so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because what was the other franchise I was watching?

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<v Speaker 2>They're all mixed up in my head. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>But the driver kept being like what like there was

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<v Speaker 2>so much fighting in the sprinter van, and they just

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<v Speaker 2>kept they had a camera on on this like, Jolly driver, was.

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<v Speaker 1>It the Bermuda? Was it when they were in Bermuda?

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<v Speaker 1>He was hot too. All of these dudes and the chef,

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<v Speaker 1>the driver, they're really like bringing it. But to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where no one knew what she was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>She just kept going, you know what you did, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>What you did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was wild. But then later Dori just goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>think your jacket's on backwards and that I mean her

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<v Speaker 1>jacket was upside down, which was so funny because inside

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<v Speaker 1>out it's like we could all do that upside down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she couldn't find the collar of the jacket. It was

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<v Speaker 1>upside down. Her arms, like her arms must have felt

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<v Speaker 1>weird in the holes. That's not the way the holes

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to go, it was and.

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<v Speaker 3>She just kept going, don't do this. I know what

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing, don't do this, Like she was so fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was incredible, but also set in your bad friend

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle is being honest. Obviously something's going on in her life,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know why you're getting so much pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>out of pushing her like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know she's being a psycho, Like you're off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to back off when somebody says I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>And also what they're not what they don't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>yet in the show that I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about is like Kyle recently lost one of her

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<v Speaker 1>best friends who took their own life, and like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about it, and it's all but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you know that, Sutton, and you're like, I get you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make good TV, but you're like accosting this

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<v Speaker 1>woman about hiding things from you and it's like she's

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<v Speaker 1>just going through some shit right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. It really they're being really bad friends. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the information about her friend. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>why she's done with Mauricio. I think he couldn't support

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<v Speaker 2>I think he like decided to travel and become wealthy

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<v Speaker 2>instead of yeah, being there first.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I've been reading as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, if you're not going to watch anything, just

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<v Speaker 1>pop on this weird Dinner episode of Beverly Hills and

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<v Speaker 1>just feast your eyes, have a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>Light up a joint in the middle of someone's house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but or if you want to, we've taught the

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<v Speaker 2>Salt Lake City episodes in at Trixy Motel have are

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<v Speaker 2>also very joyful to me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I hate Sutton.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think name Them, Name Them is gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>down in history.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally, there's some sad episode. Yeah, let's get to it. Guys. No,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not. We're not a Bravo podcast, but we should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a hot episode going back in to the vaults.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, today's episode is called baby Killer, so nothing positives

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<v Speaker 2>happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is a real get ready to get

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<v Speaker 1>sad episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from the title on, we have November two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and it is wild. Maybe it's a little trite to discuss,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am, like, holy shit, I've lived like a

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<v Speaker 2>long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm like November of two thousand. I was

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<v Speaker 1>on my semester abroad, just like living it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in high school or college, no, junior high.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, high school at least high school, not college. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I graduated high I was five, so like eighth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this girl gave on my on my twentieth birthday,

0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.960
<v Speaker 1>which was right before this episode aired. I this girl

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<v Speaker 1>on my semester of broad program gave me her life

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<v Speaker 1>since and it was it was her real license from

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm six inches taller than her. And her name

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<v Speaker 3>was Dana.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I won't say her full name, but she

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<v Speaker 1>had this very like Scaramoucci like last name, like very Italian,

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<v Speaker 1>and in her thing, she's kind of like squinting and

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like looks kind of like poudy. So every time I

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:19.439
<v Speaker 1>would go to a bar, I would like stare off

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<v Speaker 1>into the distance, like trying to look poudy and squinty,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, you can't see me, right, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is not a vision.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time it worked because it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better to use a fake ID, a real

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 1>idea that's not you, because it's really hard to be like,

0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that's not you unless it's glaring. You know. We had

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of similar hair color and skin tone. It's like

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.919
<v Speaker 1>everyone takes a weird picture every now and then, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I used my sister's ID, who is ten years older

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<v Speaker 2>than me, but it only got rejected twice.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like so funny. They were like, yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, Like yeah, oh my god.

0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Twice it was like you gotta get out of here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like true, true, true. We did one

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 2>time make our friends Sophia use like a fake idea

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>that was a man's and it didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't work well.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I had this girl Dana's, I had one that

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<v Speaker 1>was not me, not real and expired from Vermont.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, So that didn't work at all, or sometimes it did.

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<v Speaker 1>It would work in Connecticut sometimes if they just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pay pet attention to the expiration. And that was another

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<v Speaker 1>one where I was squinting because the girl's really squinty.

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.639
<v Speaker 1>She's high as hell in her photo, and I'm like squinting.

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, the things we did things. But anyway, okay,

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>we were babies, and this episode is called baby Killers,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's keep.

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<v Speaker 2>Going seeing you know, we write down the air date

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<v Speaker 2>and just seeing two thousand is like, it's also my

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 2>favorite time in music history.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just thinking that. I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a time where Brittany is thriving. We're really loving

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>life music.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and this is another okay, sorry, we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Taylor Swift before we started recording.

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<v Speaker 3>It is in my brain forever.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's another thing watching all these youtubes she was

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:02.679
<v Speaker 2>she's been so young, you know, like the Tailor, the Mileys.

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, some of our girls have really like been

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:08.400
<v Speaker 2>able to thrive through their teen and young years, which

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of our other popsters have not been able

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 2>to do. And that's like so impressive. Forget how young

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 2>these people are when you watch them in arenas and

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 2>they're teenagers. Yeah, it's crazy. It really is okay. So

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:25.439
<v Speaker 2>back to Baby Killer. It's recess time. The kids are

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<v Speaker 2>having a ball, they're in their jackets. There's actually a

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of balls. There's a basketball, a soccer ball, and

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 2>a red rubber ball, so a lot of balls. And

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the teacher breaks up a fight over a ball, of course,

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 2>and then notices there's problems at the gate with some

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 2>unsavory men, I would say, and they're talking through young

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 2>children through a gate, so obviously we don't like that

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 2>and it can't be good. And then a man in

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<v Speaker 2>a bandana calls her a bitch and doesn't like being

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<v Speaker 2>asked to leave the school playground, which to me seems,

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, fair. She gets on her walkie talkie radio

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.919
<v Speaker 2>for some backup. Before bang, we hear a gunshot and

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 2>children screaming back at the playground. The teacher, who we

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 2>find out later is the principal. She runs back and

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 2>sees a dead young child in a pink coat and

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 2>she's bleeding and it's really sad, and the principal is screaming,

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>help help me, please, and the camera pans out and

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just her and the kid and everyone is gone,

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like a very solemn sad cement area

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 2>and then we cut to a sad Kragan face. He's

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 2>looking at the squad and they're in a real casual

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>boy band formation if I've ever seen one. They're standing, kneeling,

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>squatting like they're all in different heights. Yeah yeah, fully

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:39.719
<v Speaker 2>like ready to swoon us And it's all it's a Benson,

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 2>munch Stabler and Finn and this is in his steampunk era.

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I would say, there's a vest, there's silk ties. It's

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 2>really he's like the villain. Is it from Hunchback of

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame? Like he just hold on, No, I'm not sure.

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 2>He's like a step away from a monocle.

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Here though, it's just like to be in the movie

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Wild Wild West.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely not the Hunchback of Notre Dame. I am

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<v Speaker 2>to have my references wile.

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Wild West is a good Yeah, that's a good comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just so funny, Like I just can't imagine a

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>guy who was in arcotics forever grew up in New York.

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 3>It would be wearing vests and undershirts.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I'm just so curious at this and how he

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 2>was able to transition out of that. You know with

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>his seniority whatever, he breaks the news. There was a

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 2>shooting at PS three eighty seven in East Harlem. Six

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 2>year old girl died at the scene. They're bringing up

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the shooter now. Munch is like, why would we be

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 2>talking to the shooter right now? The brass thinks we're

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 2>better equipped to handle him. Stabler says, bring on the perver.

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.199
<v Speaker 2>And then we see a little child walk in. He

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 2>is small, he is the killer. And then there's like

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 2>two giant coups behind him. You can't even see their faces.

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 2>They're really like showing you how tiny this kid is

0:26:58.440 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 2>with the camera.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we jumped to the car. It's of course,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you can. He's so cute. Yeah,

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 3>like a cute child killer.

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Benson asked Munch, does that look like a

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 2>cold blooded killer to you. Craigan asked if there's any

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 2>luck getting the parents, and wildly they both called in

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.959
<v Speaker 2>six to work and can't be found. M Finn does

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 2>a walk by question, can you even charge a seven

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 2>year old with murder? And yes, he just made the cutoff.

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Two panic people run into the squad room. So the

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 2>man I know from Sex and the City he played

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 2>William and he was the wee guy. He like kept

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>lying to Samantha, like we'll go to the Hamptons, We'll

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 2>do this, you know, oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, So god,

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>sam he's also a ballet teacher in Center Stage.

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that was like a moment for

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you or not. And yeah, for sure, I remember watching

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Center Stage a lot.

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 2>And then also a season six episode of SVU called

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>The Game. So the mom is Sarah Ramirez, who is

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 2>famous for playing Chay Diaz, will probably haunt them for

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>the rest of their career. And so that's in't just

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>like that. We they're in the episode of SVU called Cameleon,

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>we have covered it based on Eileen Warnos. And then

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 2>most importantly, over two hundred and fifty episodes of Grey's

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 2>Anatomy and full series regular in like a handful of

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 2>other shows they are working and Chadas will be on

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the tombstone, Like, yeah, everything Sarah has done is overshadowed

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 2>by this nightmare they've created, and it's just so memed,

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just the most memed character they've done.

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it's history, baby is.

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>But you know, famously, I read this one thing that

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, this is actually the most accurate portrayal of

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>a comedian. Comedians are the most insufferable, annoying people on

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the planet, and this is totally in line with every

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>comedian I've ever met. And it was like this galker

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 2>piece or something like that, which I did think was funny.

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 2>There was a moment when Sarah was like in bed

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 2>doing the cameos chay Dias where I was like, this

0:28:57.960 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>is psycho. You wouldn't leave the room to do it

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>in the living room, but I could see this happening

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>for someone.

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 3>I can see it.

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Also, we're birthday twins August thirty first, so that's pretty

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>love for us. So anyways, wildly, both his mom and

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 2>dad had small parts in the musical Chicago the movie

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 2>as well. No so maybe they met on that set,

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 2>who knows, but they're stress. Benson turns around to help

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>them in her short pixie cut glory. They say, we're

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>here for son Elias. He's been involved in a shooting.

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 2>She's like, why aren't we at the hospital?

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Is he dead?

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 2>She's crying and she's like, oh, there's a misunderstanding, baby,

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>your son was actually the shooter. The dad doesn't own

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>a gun. The mom is stunned. Stabler's like, well, where

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>does he have access to a gun? And they're like,

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>he's either at home, school or the sitters. The babysitter's

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>name is Missus Strata. Yeah, reminds me of Eric Astrata,

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>just because they I think it's a strata too. The

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>last it's not because no, no, I have the captions on.

0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah I thought I heard that. Yeah, because

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:07.479
<v Speaker 2>I think it's Mandela effect because of Eric Strata, or

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I think about the Family Stone when she cooks the strata.

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Wait, Eric, isn't it eric Astrata? I don't know. Yeah,

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 1>it's Eric Astrada is the exactly. But I think that's

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>why we that's why. Yeah, it's sucking us up here. Yeah,

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's missus Estrada.

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>But that's also the egg dish that Carrie that Sarah

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Jisca Parker does at the Family Stone.

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Strata mean street in Italian. There's a there's a

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>famous movie called Lostrada. Wow, all right, well that's important

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>to anyone.

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 2>So this is a babysitter and her name is Missus Strata,

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:51.239
<v Speaker 2>and they ask for their son. So Craigan convinces them

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 2>to sign a Miranda waiver so they can all like

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 2>talk together, which is a trick for sure. I would

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 2>never allow this. They waive the rights because they just

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>want to see their son, and they march over there.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Finn looked up the dad in the system. He's clean

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>as a whistle, which whistles are disgusting, filled with saliva.

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Stabler and Benson ask about the parents both playing hooky,

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 2>but they were actually at the hospital because their daughter

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 2>had a respiratory thing. So this is a nightmare, like

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>what the worst day in history. Benson is like, Okay,

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 2>why don't you guys sit down. You've clearly been through enough.

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>They bring an alliance. Obviously, there's some hugs and kisses.

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>They sit Elias in front of Elliott. They're gonna chat

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Elliott, okay. Like Benson, relating to victims

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>and being kind is like really natural to look at,

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 2>and watching Stabler do it is making me uncomfortable.

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you don't spend enough time with kids.

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I think to know how to do this because you

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>have four, but you don't spend time with them.

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's like, do you like school? Yes?

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Second grade his favorite subject. He shrugs. He doesn't have one.

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Small dog is over though they're gonna talk about today.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 2>He admits to knowing Carly Jackson. When asked if he

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 2>likes her, he shakes his head no. Stabler asks why not?

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 2>She's always bothering me, is his answer. She chases me

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and tries to kiss me, and so he's like, okay,

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 2>So what happened at re sas he said that she

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 2>fell down? What made her fall down? I mean, this

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>is like speed it up, kid, So anyways, he's traumatized.

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 3>So what made her fall down?

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Stabler pushes the kid is staring right at him, takes

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>a long pause, and then says the gun. Well, who's

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>holding the gun? The boy asks is Carly going to

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 2>be okay? And Stabler again asks who had the gun

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and he has to whisper I did. The dad finally

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 2>gets up and is like, okay, we're gonna stop this

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna get a lawyer, And obviously Stabler's like, yeah,

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 2>that's fine with us. It's why do you let us

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>talk to him for this long? But he's gonna stay

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 2>at the precinct. So Craigan is behind the glass with

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Munch and directs Munch and Finn to start digging to

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 2>everyone in their lives to see how he got the gun.

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Craigan makes a little dark joke about like the screening

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 2>process is bad, but I doubt the kid was able

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 2>to buy one himself.

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 3>So that's like a little little humor from Craigan. Uh oh.

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 2>The press is out and they're all trying to get

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 2>a snapshot of what's going on. Munch pushes his way

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 2>past them and into the gate to the playground and

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 2>there's a little memorial set up, flowers, balloons, photos of Carly,

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and the principal is standing over it. Munch walks over

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:15.959
<v Speaker 2>to her. He asks if the two kids had drama

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>in the past, and she says neither had ever been

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 2>sent to her office. So she says she saw Lias

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 2>putting the gun in the garbage can. Munch relays to

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 2>her that Carly picked on him, and she's like, Carley

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 2>was the sweetest little girl, and then she goes, did

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>we miss something? And she says he wasn't a trouble maker,

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 2>like he barely even talked, and she's really sad, and

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I would say I'd put her in with Lisa Lampierra

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 2>into iconic guest stars that actually act the appropriate level

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>of upset when something horrible happens. She is really bothered

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>by what is happening. And I feel like Lisa Lampira,

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>she was like, really upset her roommate died. And those

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 2>are the only two I can think of that have

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 2>acted appropriately. Usually it's a friend's mom that's like, I

0:33:58.280 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>gotta get to work, you know.

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Girls. Yeah, girls, that's sad. But teen's dying.

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like so, but this principle is affected, and she's

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>also reflecting like she wants to help. She's like, what

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 2>did I miss? You know, Like she is just a

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 2>stellar person, this principle. So Benson and Stabler go to

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>missus Strata's house the daycare. She says he's an angel

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>and she can't even believe it. They straight up ask

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 2>if she has a gun at the house. Her curtains

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 2>are very Gramma vibes. My mom would love these fucking curtains.

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:35.720
<v Speaker 1>We have these curtains, she says, please, and and.

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 3>She is like, none of the kids would do this.

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 2>And Stablor asks if she has the numbers to the

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 2>parents of these kids, and she's even insulted by the question,

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 2>like of course, I do work and home, and she

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>points them to the list. She's watching out the window

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>as the kids are playing and yells at two kids fighting,

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 2>and they listen to her and stop right away, which

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 2>is a good sign they respect her. And there are

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 2>kids inside as well. Stabler asks if she's in charge

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 2>of all the kids. She goes, yes, they don't leave

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 2>the courtyard without an adult, and they don't talk to strangers.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 2>And then she goes, I take my job very seriously,

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 2>young man. And I like the way she's talking to Stable.

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Finn is interrogating children. Lol, okay, Sammy, where did Elias

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>get the gun? And it's like kindergarten cop, but not funny,

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Like very serious.

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 2>This boy says he got the gun from his pants,

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 2>but doesn't know anything else. And the boy is pretty

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>like defensive and like pissed off. Munch is with the

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 2>children too, and the boy with Munch is like, ah,

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 2>she kissed him all the time and he would get red,

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>and she was walking over to him that day. Stable

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 2>and Benson are debating on their adventure about how they

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 2>should charge the parents, even though it's a hot button issue.

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Stabler says, but like these parents don't seem like the

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>parents I think that's like they seem like good caring

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.399
<v Speaker 2>parents because the parents I think, like I think about

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 2>the Michigan parents, you know in the last few years

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>that like encourage their kid to be a school shooter

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and like ate it and embedded, like yeah, charge those parents.

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't get the vibe from these parents that

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 2>they're like negligent or not.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, they also didn't even own a gun, yeah, like

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 1>they I mean it's like, yes, you have to check

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and see if your caregiver has a gun, but the

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>mistrata says she doesn't have a gun. So it's like

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>they've done their due diligence, you know. Yeah, but they

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>just don't seem like assholes to me.

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:19.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 2>The elevator doors open and there's a walk in talk

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 2>that follows. Elliot's just like what would have made a

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 2>little boy like that one to take a life? And

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Benson calls him out like you're searching for a way

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 2>to make him a victim. The only victim here is

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 2>a dead little girl, and I'm with her, but he

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.399
<v Speaker 2>is really cute and it is hard. Okay, So there's

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>a woman and her name is Sonia Petis and Elias

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Berera's teacher, that's who it is. And she goes into

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 2>complaining about class sizes, the limits thirty two and she

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.240
<v Speaker 2>has forty kids, and she's.

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>That's really crazy. It is forty kids is a humongous class.

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 3>I can't even imagine.

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't Just getting in a line probably takes fifteen minutes, yeah, minimum.

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 2>So she's digging in her bag and she was in

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 2>the teacher's lounge when she heard, and when she heard

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>it was Elias, she said she got physically ill. Benson's like, Okay,

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>you've been digging in that giant bag for a while.

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Is there something you want to show us in the bag?

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, yes, after twenty years of teaching, you know,

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 2>nothing shocks you anymore. And I wish this had you know,

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 2>all of these women are just so introspective about what

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 2>is happening.

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 2>It's just like, I really like the characters in this episode.

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 2>So she hands over a drawing he drew it yesterday.

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, it's a fucking shooting. It's two boys with

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 2>a gun, but he's holding a green and red checkered

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>thing and between the gun and the victim, and I

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 2>can't figure out what it is. It is a folder,

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, and then it's a girl with

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 2>blood everywhere out of her stomach, so not good. Stabler goes,

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, Carly had a ponytail, and so that's the scene.

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Ender is looking at this drawing and he is a

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty good artist. So we're at the office of the

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Chief Assistant District Attorney, Charlie Phillips, and he's like a

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 2>lemony snicket looking man. I would say that's the best

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 2>place familiar.

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Who is he? He's like Rumpel still skin to me.

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>He truly just has like energy that I'm not into. Okay,

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna look it up? Yeah? I'm looking up

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:20.919
<v Speaker 1>this actor because I just want to see what else I.

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.760
<v Speaker 3>Like know him from. We know him. He's played annoying.

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I know this guy. Yeah, yeah, let's see. Okay, let's see.

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>He's got one hundred and twenty credits, so okay.

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 3>He's a regular on Billions.

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 1>If you watch Billions like currently, he's a Billions regular.

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>He's been on seventy six episodes of That The Walking Dead,

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 1>he was a regular. He's been on eight episodes of

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Law and order regular, okay, but I wouldn't know any

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>of that. I do see one that I know burn

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>after reading It's a small book, but he was a

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>cosmetic surgeon, and I feel like I did watch I

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:52.760
<v Speaker 1>do watch that movie a lot.

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Wait, The Mist.

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see The Mist, but it's always in like

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>lists of the most heartbreaking off endings of movies of

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.479
<v Speaker 2>all time, and so I have seen just the ending

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 2>of it and it's pretty fucked up.

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, the Miss.

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:08.880
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think I'm gonna watch the whole movie,

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I did, just I watched the ending, but.

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 3>I think you should call him lemony stick.

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>At the rest of the episode, he just has like

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>not good vibes, Like straight up, there are some actors

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:27.280
<v Speaker 1>that just play you know, weirdos. Yeah, so Tuesday, November seventh,

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and I wonder if that's election day where the I

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>voted stickers, because election, right, that has to be election day.

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>He says, charge the boy with murder and cab it's

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like he's seven, and the dude's like, yeah, any of

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you was six, that would be different. But the laws

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>of the law and there's no room for interpretation. I

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 1>hate him. They argue about what the jury will incit on.

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, Columbines of course brought up and people are

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>like fed up with that, but obviously not. We are

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 1>in the future watching this and we know that nothing

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>has changed and it's only gotten worse.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 3>But you know, this is in the two thousand.

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 2>He says, people are fed up, and Cabot's like, nope,

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 2>you want to get elected next year and you're getting

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're trying to get all splashy in attention.

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have a response because she just called his

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>ass out real good, and he just cares about, like,

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, impressing constituents. He takes a moment to collect

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 2>himself and says that the boy knew the difference between

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>right and wrong, and Cabot's like, yes, but to not

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 2>understand the consequences of his actions. And he yells, he

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 2>brought a gun to school. He knew what he was doing,

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 2>and the drawing proves intent. So we're off to the

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Manhattan Family Corps and the judge is like, Cabot, there

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 2>must be a mistake. You're charging a seven year old

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.760
<v Speaker 2>with murder, and she's like, yes, we are your honor,

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, there must be an alternative right, and

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 2>she's like one is yet to present itself. I'm obsessed

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>with this episode, like I also love the dialogue. So

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 2>she's not happy, but there's evidence with criminal intent, and

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>the judge then has to move on and ask, like

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>what the plea is And then friend of the Pod

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Josh Pice is the defense attorney, and he's saying that

0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>they are pleading general denial. That's what they're pleading. Cabot

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 2>wants to remove the boy from the home into a facility.

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:07.240
<v Speaker 2>His parents cry, they're stressed. Josh says, let him go home.

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Cabot's like, no, and hello, the victim's family is here today,

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 2>and we get a look at Carly's mom and she

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 2>is mad. She is glaring over at Elias, you know,

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 2>fairly and all of them, and it's not good. And

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 2>it's again an appropriate level of face you would give

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 2>if your child was murdered. The judge sends him to

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:32.240
<v Speaker 2>a facility and orders some evaluations. The gavel pounds, Sarah

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Ramiroz cries, please don't take my baby. Carly's mom gives

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 2>them a dirty look as she walks by the you know,

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 2>and then the parents hug. Munch walks in with the

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 2>newspaper and the headline says kill her kid. So Benson's like, yeah,

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 2>tons of people are outside the courthouse. Everyone's going wild,

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and Munch I think he's being sarcastic. He goes, yeah,

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 2>who would have guess people would be against charging a

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 2>seven year old with murder. He leans back, he opens

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 2>the paper and then Munch slips in a little dig

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 2>against Cabot and she walks right in, right on time,

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, I didn't want to charge him. I

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 2>had no choice. Stabler also leaning back in his chair,

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 2>feed up on his desk. Everyone's really relaxed. So while

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:14.320
<v Speaker 2>he's been in jail, has he spilled the beans? Stabler

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 2>asks about the crime or anything, and it's been the opposite.

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Kevin says he's completely withdrawn. He won't talk to social

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:24.320
<v Speaker 2>workers or anybody. Craigan walks in like, Nope, stop wasting

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 2>time talking about this. We need to find the adult

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 2>who left this child near a gun. One of the

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>parents whose kids goes to missus Strada's daycare, Raina mckeerrey,

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 2>owns a gun. So we're with the mom who's putting

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.280
<v Speaker 2>her hair up with a giant banana clip. While she's

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 2>and banana clips are in It's really like watching this

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 2>episode is a mind fuck. So she tells much that

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 2>there is no way her son gave a gun to Elias.

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Munch asks if the gun is still in her possession.

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 2>She goes, yes, she doesn't want to show it to them,

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 2>but she pulls it out of her purse.

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 3>They both jump back like whoa. She goes, are you satisfied?

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 1>They make her put the gun on the table and

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>ask why it's loose in her bag.

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 2>She says, you know, she leaves work. She leaves you know,

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 2>the hospital. She has to take us the subway, a

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 2>bus and walk four blocks at three am, and she's

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 2>putting on some lipstick. She's getting ready, you know, classic,

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 2>She's getting ready while they're trying to get some info

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 2>out of her. Munch is now like, oh, well, you

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have it in your purse. So she gets sassy

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 2>and is like, yeah, I leave it at home so

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 2>the appliances can protect themselves. You have a child living here,

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 2>they remind her. She calls for her son, Raphael, and

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.320
<v Speaker 2>he comes out and he's wearing a toy badge.

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 3>So I think this kid is a cop. Lover.

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 2>He tells them he knows Elias and that he popped

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 2>that little girl. Benson and Stable are at like, you know,

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 2>talking to a science cop in a lab and they're

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 2>talking about the guns and the bullets and holy shit,

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 2>this gun was used in a different crime. There's a

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 2>second body on that gun. So this case is growing.

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 2>We go talk to the cop of that other case.

0:43:55.760 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Basically the victim is Shorty Esposito Latino Mayo. He got

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 2>smoked in the ticker right before your case. Like what

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 2>a sentence. So it was short range and the dude

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.760
<v Speaker 2>was dumped in an alley blocks from where the kid lives.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 2>So they're like, did the kid do this one too?

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.399
<v Speaker 2>And I get that's like a joke to them, and

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.439
<v Speaker 2>they're like, he's like no, the shooter is actually four

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 2>inches taller than the deceased, so it's a grown person.

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 2>They share infoone files, they cross resperence stuff. There's no

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 2>like this is my jurisdiction. Oh you don't think I

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 2>did a good job. There's none of that here. So

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 2>they got to go find a link between the crimes.

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 2>So she says, look at his pants, and they're looking

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 2>at the crime photos and holy shit, those pants are

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 2>in the drawing Elias drew of the victim, and they're like,

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.959
<v Speaker 2>that might be the link. So the pants are the link.

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 2>So he drew a different shooting. It's probably it's not

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>the Carly shooting. So they take the photo to a

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 2>bodega guy and he's being sarcastic, not helpful, but like,

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I get it. It's a random guy at the bodega, Like,

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you can't know everyone. But Stabler decides to do a

0:44:57.840 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 2>little theater and picks up the paper and goes, you

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 2>heard it out this case, And the bodega guy says,

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 2>who hasn't, And he goes, well, the same gun the

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 2>boy used was used to kill this guy, So you

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>tell us what you know about this guy. So he's

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:11.760
<v Speaker 2>like all right, all right. He's into the mumbo jumbo.

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 2>He's always coming out of Nests, which is a store

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 2>across the street. It's a which style store. There's a

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of candles. The store owner calls it Religious supplies.

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Who is the store owner? But Madonna's baby daddy, Carlos Leone,

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I was just looking it up, but yes, I was

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>like I recognize him.

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the father of Lordes and he's also in

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the episode Wildlife where he plays another.

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Kind of he's like a party promoter yeah.

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Right yeah, and gives coke to the girls. Yeah.

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Here, he owns a Sansoria style store. They show him

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 2>the photo and he goes, yes, that is a customer

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 2>and Benson says was and they accuse him and he says,

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, goats is the highest in the food chain.

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 3>We go with sacrifice. They want scoop on this dead guy.

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 2>He goes, no, part of our religion is secret, see,

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's freedom of religion and I'm not violating his

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 2>rights and Benson goes, he's dead, he has no rights.

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 2>And Taylor then is like, are you a priest? And

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 2>he gives it up and is like, no, I'm actually

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 2>an atheist businessman. But there's three hundred thousand people in

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.760
<v Speaker 2>New York that practice Santaia and they need to shop

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:20.280
<v Speaker 2>someplace they can trust. So I'm like, I mean, baby

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Killer is sad, but this episode is really fucking good.

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 2>So the foursome meetup outside and are like, honestly, we

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 2>think he's into drugs and they point across the street

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 2>at some dealers at work. Finn his narcotics knowledge fills

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 2>them in. He's like, you know, it's kind of it

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.839
<v Speaker 2>looks like a scene from the wire. A little boy

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.720
<v Speaker 2>yells nine one one and Finn goes and that's the lookout.

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 2>We could have put that together. We didn't need your

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:44.839
<v Speaker 2>drug expertise for that.

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:47.439
<v Speaker 1>But my right was interesting though. He was like, that's

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the money guy. He never touches the product. I was like,

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that.

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I thought.

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I what you usually see on these little things are

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like someone hands the money and someone you know, that

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>palm's a little pocketive white powder or whatever.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 3>But like this is like a whole lot where there's

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 3>a separate guy.

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>So no one can get held accountable if like for

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the actual exchange.

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm learning, I'm learning.

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But the lookout, it's like the lookout. Yeah, yeah,

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the corner boy, we got that. Yeah. A grocery store

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>owner stops the boy and it's like, come on, let

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 1>him go, let him run, but they obviously have pass beef,

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:22.879
<v Speaker 1>so he runs trying to get involved and the boy says,

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 1>shut up, old man.

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Finn is like, focus on us. Do you know these people?

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 2>And they show the photos and the ten year old

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.399
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know who they are. Benson pushes for scoop from

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 2>the grocery guy. The dealer glares, but this motherfucker is

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 2>not scared. Gives the names and everything he knows. Elias,

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 2>he's at the store all the time, but not with

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 2>this dead guy. With another guy named Sweetness. He's eighteen

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 2>or nineteen and he has a sweet tooth. Benson and

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Stabler enter to the squadroom and munches scoop on sweet Tooth.

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Perfect.

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So sweet Tooth has placed in foster care at

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 2>age eight for truancy. Then it turned into shoplifting, then drugs,

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 2>then larceny, then gun possession. The last person who posted

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 2>bail for him was his great grandmother, missus Strata, the daycaree.

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Dumb no.

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 2>They go to her, sassy ass and she says that

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:14.439
<v Speaker 2>her grandson has nothing to do with this little girl's death.

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 2>They're like, dude, you know Alia's got a gun, and

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 2>you know Antonio has a gun and has had gun

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 2>troubles in the past. She says he has changed, he

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 2>has gotten his life together. He helps with the kids,

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 2>he takes them to the park, buys them candy. The

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>kids call him Sweetness. Benson bends down to be like

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 2>on her level and goes that parking store. He takes

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:34.880
<v Speaker 2>them to our known drug corners. That is a drug corner.

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 2>She looks out the window and goes, I didn't know that,

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 2>And do you think she did know that? Or no,

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know regardless, And I think it's like, you're

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 2>not allowed to let your nef your great grandson just

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:49.719
<v Speaker 2>walk off with kids, like to random places like in

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 2>this daycare scenario. It's bad enough that she's like basically

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 2>running it from a perch while the kids are down

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 2>in the courtyard. They can't leave the courtyard. They can't

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.600
<v Speaker 2>just go on strolls like they have to stay there.

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, So that's inside scoop from

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:10.279
<v Speaker 2>a daycare user. So Stabler then lets her know a

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 2>young man named Shorty was shot and killed with the

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 2>same gun that Elias used. She's starting to act shifty

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and worried, and they're like, last time your great grandson

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 2>was arrested was with Shorty, Like they did time together.

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Where is he tell us she's debating, then says, you

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 2>understand he had a horrible childhood. Dad's in prison. Mom

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 2>who knows where the fuck she is? She looks down

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 2>and says, please don't hurt him. She starts to cry.

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 2>They enter a building. Benson and Stable are knock on

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 2>a door asking for Antonio sweetness. Benson says nobody says anything.

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 2>They open the door, enter the apartment. There's fresh blood.

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 2>There's blood on the walls, blood everywhere. Stable yells parties

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 2>down here and starts climbing the fire escape.

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Stairs.

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Down, you can climb down, right yeah? They are running through. No,

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 2>how would you do how would you say it.

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Going down the stairs or descending the stairs versus a.

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, descending? So you yeah, so you would go down,

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you descend down a mountain? Okay, so whatever. He's going

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 2>down the fire escape. They're running through a courtyard and

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 2>they find a bleeding man in the trash. His throat

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 2>is slit and he's bleeding out. He's like, who did

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 2>this to you? Who did this to you? He whispers

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 2>with the last bit of energy he hasn't too Stabler's

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 2>ear machete, which is from Breaking Bad. I feel too right,

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.840
<v Speaker 2>machete or it could just be a word and Stabler.

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Danny Treyjoe plays a character named Machete Right Yeah, Case

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and Breaking Bad okay, perfect, No, no, just character.

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh but Treyjo isn't breaking bad. Okay, yes, it's tree. Wow,

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 2>there's a whole series. Yeah, that's like Danny Treyo's big

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 2>character is. There's three machete movies. Did you know that

0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:57.319
<v Speaker 2>low Hands in one of them? Oh my god, wait,

0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 2>we gotta get her. But Steven Seagal is too. All right, listen,

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:03.280
<v Speaker 2>let's go back to Baby Killer.

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>So Stabler is like, my shed, my shed, and I'm

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 1>over you fucking idiot. People are not getting Spanish. Is

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:16.359
<v Speaker 1>like so funny, it's a dig. He's like, my shut up,

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 1>my shed day. Yeah, we're at the office and the

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 1>photo of the dead man and the drawing Elias Drew

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 1>have the same you know, gray camel pants.

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 3>We've discussed this.

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 2>They're like, when he drew this, he wasn't plotting out

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Carly Jackson's murder. He was drawing this murder that he witnessed.

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.920
<v Speaker 2>This was a cry for help. Cabot's like, he's been

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 2>through so many questions, through so many systems, interrogations. Why

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have said anything? Craigan goes, well, I mean these

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 2>are drug dealers and killers. They scare the kid. The

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:47.959
<v Speaker 2>kid might be scared. Benson and Stabler are like, fuck,

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 2>we need to talk to him. Cabot says, the judge

0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 2>let him go home, so he is home. Craigan tells

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:54.399
<v Speaker 2>them to go get that info. They rush to the house.

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 2>The mom's obviously like, you got some nerve, and the lawyer,

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Josh is like, they're prisoners in their own home. It's

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:03.359
<v Speaker 2>been awful for them, protesters, death threats, Social services want

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to take their daughter away and they're like, we're not

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 2>letting you talk to him. To pin something else on him,

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 2>and Benson goes, no, we believe that your son witnessed

0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:13.720
<v Speaker 2>a murder. And they're like what, and they show the drawing.

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 2>The mom goes, oh my god. So they lead the

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.840
<v Speaker 2>detectives to Elias. Stabler walks in and they all stand

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.239
<v Speaker 2>in the doorway and watch, and Stabler tries connecting with

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 2>the kid who wants to be silent. Stablor calls him

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 2>big guy. That must work. So Stabler goes, listen, you've

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 2>been dragged into something. We talk to sweetness, and we

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 2>know that you've been slinging for him. He asks, what

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:33.880
<v Speaker 2>did you do with all the money he gives you?

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:36.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, did you buy Kicks Crans video games? He

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 2>still says nothing. Staber's like, come on, Elias talk and like,

0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, begging him, like let's fix this, let's fix this.

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 2>So finally Elias goes, he puts little bottles in my pockets.

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 2>So that's the first time we hear him speak. Stabler says,

0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 2>nice work. Now let's talk about the gun. Okay, tell

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:55.600
<v Speaker 2>me about this. Alias says, he told me to stay

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>in the room, and I didn't. I saw him shoot

0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the man. What's at the end of the gun, And

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 2>we finally know what I thought was a folder is

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>a pillow. And he goes, you could hardly hear the bam.

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Stabler asks why did Sweetness shoot Shorty? He says he didn't.

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:13.600
<v Speaker 2>The guy holding the gun is machete, and then Staelor goes, machete.

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know who this machete guy is, but he

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 2>did hear Shorty cry for help, like, please stop, machete,

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:24.400
<v Speaker 2>please don't do this. Sablor's eyes open wide. Then what happened?

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 2>He heard sirens and machete ran away. Sweetness hit the

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 2>gun in the couch and got a big suitcase, and

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Elias hid in the closet because he was scared and

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 2>he heard them leave. Stabler asks why he took the gun,

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I didn't want him to kill me too.

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 2>So Stabler then asks where did this happen and he goes, well,

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 2>my sister was in the hospital, so he was at

0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 2>missus Strata's fucking house. So they're going to go back

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 2>there again. They asked her where she was Sunday night

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 2>between ten pm and midnight. She goes, I take meds,

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and they knock me the fuck out. I was sleeping,

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 2>so she knows nothing. They're all going through the apartment hardcore.

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 2>There's no traces of blood yet, but one pillow is missing.

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.120
<v Speaker 2>How would they ever fucking know that? Like, how do

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.520
<v Speaker 2>you know how many pillows someone has? And they turned

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:05.719
<v Speaker 2>the lights out and we see the blood glow and

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 2>we see the blood glow of like imprints of a

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 2>wheels of a suitcase. So he put Shorty in the

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 2>suitcase and ran out. So they go to the fifteenth

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Precincts and probably see, like, you know, to check out

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 2>how they handle this case.

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.280
<v Speaker 3>So this dude is like, oh, yeah, it was a party.

0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 3>It got out of hand.

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 2>There was a knife, a brawl and he took thirty

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:26.840
<v Speaker 2>five statements. He stops everyone who left the building, and

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 2>the cop shares all thirty five interviews and we're working

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to see if he knows any of them. Elias recognized

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 2>two of the people, but Alias said it wasn't machete,

0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, who the fuck is this guy? So

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:39.279
<v Speaker 2>then they come up with the most crazy plan I've

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:41.359
<v Speaker 2>ever seen an SVU. This would not work and it's

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:44.240
<v Speaker 2>not Halloween. They put Elias in like a pig mask,

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, we're just gonna walk around the neighborhood

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:48.879
<v Speaker 2>and you can squeeze my hand when you see who

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 2>machete is what like.

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>But I remember this like so well from when this

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:56.879
<v Speaker 1>was first on, Like I remember this being like, oh my.

0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 3>God, that kid must be so terrified.

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:00.840
<v Speaker 1>But they have him in this like we pig mask

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and they just like bring him around for like to

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:06.440
<v Speaker 1>a like what could be a drug corner or like

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:07.240
<v Speaker 1>a drug front.

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:07.879
<v Speaker 3>We have no idea.

0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:10.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like everyone's gonna know who that little child is.

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:13.200
<v Speaker 2>They see him all the time, they know the case

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 2>is happening. But also, why are these obvious cops have

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.440
<v Speaker 2>a kid with a mask on like it just doesn't

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 2>make sense.

0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's not like walking with an uncle, like if

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:24.840
<v Speaker 1>they had him walking with like I don't know one

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 1>guy to be like undercover. But it's like he just

0:55:27.600 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 1>walks in with a crowd of cops wearing a mask.

0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.399
<v Speaker 1>It's so like, what would stop this guy just from

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:34.879
<v Speaker 1>shooting him right in the fucking face and like killing

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:37.879
<v Speaker 1>him so they can't talk. Yeah, blowing his little pig

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>mask right off. It's so fucked up. So, but that's

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the play they came up with. So Stabler says,

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.640
<v Speaker 1>keep your head down, don't say a word, just squeeze

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:49.280
<v Speaker 1>my hand when you see machete.

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 3>I do like saying it.

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I enter the Sansoria shop, Madonna's X walks out. He

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 2>grabs his hand hard like so the squeeze is happening.

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 2>So Carlos Leone is fucking machetes. The santor Ria guy is.

0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Actually this is a drug done. The candles are No

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 2>one is religious in this.

0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:07.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a great fat though, because it's like he can

0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:11.120
<v Speaker 1>claim all this religious freedom that we're being persecuted because

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:14.680
<v Speaker 1>people don't like Santa Ria or whatever, and you can

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 1>just do all your business that way.

0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they take him out, They put cuffs on him,

0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:22.080
<v Speaker 2>they arrest his ass. He tries to bribe them. He

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 2>goes look in the freezer. There's tons of cash in

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:26.759
<v Speaker 2>the freezer. You know, big mistake. These are not the

0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:30.440
<v Speaker 2>cops that will do that. They drag his ass out

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 2>of the witch shop and so we open back up

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 2>at the office of doctor Elizabeth. I'll a vet and this,

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I would say, is like B. D. Wong before B. D. Wong,

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 2>you know right, I'll a vet And she's like, you

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 2>can talk now. Machete is in jail. She's like, I heard,

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:46.800
<v Speaker 2>you know from the streets that you're a very good artist.

0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yeah, you know, I am. He's trying

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 2>to be humble, but he knows he's good. So she

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 2>asked him to draw what happened that day at the schoolyard.

0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:55.280
<v Speaker 2>He starts drawing it's a big face with its mouth

0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 2>open wide and she's like, oh, is that.

0:56:57.920 --> 0:56:59.840
<v Speaker 3>You You're really scared? Why are you scared?

0:56:59.880 --> 0:57:02.400
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, I saw them behind the fence, machete

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 2>in them. He says, they came to hurt me too,

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:07.279
<v Speaker 2>And like, do you think they went to scare him

0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 2>or kill him because they knew that he was in

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 2>the closet.

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Like, great question. I think he's right

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>to be scared. Yeah, because they probably know that he

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>was there. I'm sure they were going to kill him.

0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 1>No one's trusting a seven year old to keep their

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:23.000
<v Speaker 1>mouth shut.

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Sam, he says, I saw them from behind the fence. Damn,

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that's so scary. Elias, who were you shooting at? And

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.600
<v Speaker 2>he goes, I was shooting at machete. I didn't shoot Carly,

0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 2>What's going to happen to me? So she asked, what

0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 2>do you think should happen to you? He starts drawing

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 2>red all around him. It's red flames. He thinks he's

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 2>going to hell he wants. He says, he thinks he

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 2>deserves to burn in hell for what he did. So

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Cabot's waiting for the gray haired man in charge that

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 2>wants to see this child burn. He says, I know

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.640
<v Speaker 2>why you're here, and no, you cannot have the machete case.

0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I gave that to McCoy. Cabot's like, I'm not here

0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.320
<v Speaker 2>to pick up a case, I'm here to drop one.

0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, no, we cannot give this kid of pass.

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 2>She says, we wouldn't have gotten Machete without him. He says,

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't bring back Carly Jackson Cab. It's like her

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:10.440
<v Speaker 2>death is a tragedy, but this was self defense. Machete

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and his gang were at the school playground. There are

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:16.080
<v Speaker 2>knocks on the door, phones are ringing. It's really a

0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 2>wild day. And they both had out walking and he's like, fine,

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:22.000
<v Speaker 2>do manslaughter And she's like, I don't want to prosecute

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 2>this child for like a bunch of a series of

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 2>society's mistakes. So and Elias's family is HMO wouldn't cover

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:32.600
<v Speaker 2>their daughter's condition, forcing them to work two jobs, so

0:58:32.640 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 2>they had to find affordable daycare. So they put him

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 2>in an illegal daycare where an eighty two year old

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 2>woman is looking after fifteen children and her great grandson

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 2>was using him as a drug runner and giving him

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 2>access to a loaded gun. And this boy should not

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 2>be put away. And he responds nobody in sing sing

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 2>has a great childhood, Like if you start killing at seven,

0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 2>what happens next?

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I hate this man so fucking much. You know, I

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>don't need to have I don't even know why I

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:57.040
<v Speaker 1>need to stop to say it.

0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 3>But like, are you fucking kidding me?

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:00.840
<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, things are bad and sing sing, so

0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 1>let's just keep perpetuating the cycle.

0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 3>What like it makes no sense.

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Like he's like, he's not even listening to what she's saying,

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and it is fucked like people don't have childcare.

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Options, you know.

0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, She screams, you are unbelievable. He goes, Nope, I'm

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 2>second in command and I have Lewin's full support on this.

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:23.760
<v Speaker 2>He goes, Listen, people know what happened, and people want justice,

0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:26.520
<v Speaker 2>and I need someone held responsible. He runs off to

0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 2>do a press conference and he goes, justice is gonna

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 2>be served, YadA, YadA, and then he passes the buck

0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 2>to Cabot feeds.

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Her to the media.

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Wolves She looks shocked, so many questions thrown at her.

0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:40.680
<v Speaker 2>A journalist asks, you know, it's a Latino boy that

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 2>shot a black girl. If you don't act on this,

0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 2>you know it's gonna be racially tense in the neighborhood.

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:48.320
<v Speaker 2>You guys don't care about black lives. The gray Man,

0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:53.160
<v Speaker 2>he's grinning, evil Rumpel, still skin evil, evil grin. She

0:59:53.280 --> 0:59:55.960
<v Speaker 2>says that this was not racially motivated at all, and

0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:58.520
<v Speaker 2>even to try to slant it that way is messed up.

0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:00.200
<v Speaker 3>That's our podcast. Hello.

1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:03.240
<v Speaker 2>It pulls away and we see that she is on

1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:06.120
<v Speaker 2>the TV and Munch is like, damn, they young are

1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:08.880
<v Speaker 2>out to dry. It's a lose lose half the city's

1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:11.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna hate her no matter what. They feel bad for her.

1:00:11.280 --> 1:00:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Staylor says, the boy has been expelled and the state

1:00:13.640 --> 1:00:15.600
<v Speaker 2>has sent a tutor, and they're like, oh my god,

1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:16.880
<v Speaker 2>don't let that get out.

1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:18.200
<v Speaker 3>People will be mad. He has a tutor.

1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Benson asked Craigan, is there anything they can do to

1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:23.400
<v Speaker 2>help Cabot, and he's like, it's out of our hands.

1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:26.640
<v Speaker 2>So Cabot is now with all of it, and she's like,

1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:28.760
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, fuck, my career is on the line,

1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and all of it's like okay, so is the little

1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.600
<v Speaker 2>boy's future. And she says, I haven't forgotten about him,

1:00:34.640 --> 1:00:36.680
<v Speaker 2>trust me. But she can't believe he did that.

1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:39.120
<v Speaker 1>To her, like you know, this lemony snake of guy,

1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and she's and all of Vet's like, yeah, it's the

1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:41.840
<v Speaker 1>old boys Club.

1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Why do you think I left here? And Cabot's like okay,

1:00:44.200 --> 1:00:46.800
<v Speaker 2>but what would you do? Like can you help me out?

1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:48.640
<v Speaker 2>What should I do? And she's like, I can't discuss

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:51.920
<v Speaker 2>particulars with you. I've been hired by the defense on retainer.

1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:55.440
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, but I would put him in supervised counseling.

1:00:55.760 --> 1:01:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Cabot says, that's not gonna satiate the public's bloodless. Every

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:02.720
<v Speaker 2>one needs to be punished, and she's like, actually, you

1:01:02.760 --> 1:01:07.240
<v Speaker 2>can bring upon peace instead of punishment, and that makes

1:01:07.280 --> 1:01:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Cabot think we're at the capacity hearing. It's a lady

1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:12.760
<v Speaker 2>on the stand talking how the boy clearly knows the

1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:15.400
<v Speaker 2>difference between right and wrong and from the time he

1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:17.320
<v Speaker 2>pulled the trigger, he knew what he was doing and

1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:19.640
<v Speaker 2>wanted to cause death or physical harm to those men.

1:01:20.080 --> 1:01:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Now it's a man on the stand and he reminds

1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:24.040
<v Speaker 2>me of a queen who would have like dogs competing

1:01:24.080 --> 1:01:26.840
<v Speaker 2>at a dog show. For sure, he looks like he

1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:29.400
<v Speaker 2>is brushing a dog right now. And he says, the

1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:31.480
<v Speaker 2>boy understands the role of a judge in what's going

1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:34.320
<v Speaker 2>on here, the role of the court, the attorney. He

1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:38.240
<v Speaker 2>understands like how to defend himself. And now Olivet's on

1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:40.280
<v Speaker 2>the stand and she's like, yeah, I agree with everyone,

1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:43.240
<v Speaker 2>but in my assessment, the miner knows it was wrong,

1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:45.440
<v Speaker 2>but at the time he pulled the trigger, he was not.

1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Cabbot goes to Olivet.

1:01:47.960 --> 1:01:50.800
<v Speaker 2>She brings up the drawing about the hell and how

1:01:50.840 --> 1:01:53.160
<v Speaker 2>he thinks he belongs in hell, and she goes, yeah,

1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:56.080
<v Speaker 2>that's like my point, Like he's still a kid. You know,

1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:58.320
<v Speaker 2>the doctor knows kids that think they're going to hell

1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:02.160
<v Speaker 2>for telling a fib These are still children. Cabbot asks,

1:02:02.200 --> 1:02:04.560
<v Speaker 2>how do you explain his laps in judgment at the

1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:06.680
<v Speaker 2>time he pulled the trigger, and she says it was

1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:07.480
<v Speaker 2>mortal fear.

1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:09.400
<v Speaker 3>He was imitating behavior.

1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:12.200
<v Speaker 2>He saw these men swing guns around to scare people,

1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:14.880
<v Speaker 2>and he wanted them to go away. He was imitating

1:02:14.920 --> 1:02:18.520
<v Speaker 2>behavior without fully understanding it. And they cut to Carly's

1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:21.280
<v Speaker 2>angry mom in the stands obviously, and it's really sad

1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:23.840
<v Speaker 2>for her, and she says, he's seven years old, Like

1:02:23.920 --> 1:02:25.800
<v Speaker 2>even if he understands what a core is or what

1:02:25.880 --> 1:02:28.200
<v Speaker 2>a judge is, or right and wrong, it's as much

1:02:28.240 --> 1:02:30.440
<v Speaker 2>as a seven year old can understand it. He is

1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:33.560
<v Speaker 2>a tiny baby. So anyways, the judge looks him up

1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:36.520
<v Speaker 2>and down. She's side eyeing the ladies. Cabot then says,

1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the people defer to doctor Olive's findings that the miner

1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:43.000
<v Speaker 2>lacked the capacity to understand the consequences of his actions

1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and therefore should not be held responsible.

1:02:46.240 --> 1:02:47.840
<v Speaker 3>And then we go back to Carly's mom.

1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:52.000
<v Speaker 2>It's heartbreaking and you know, great facial acting, like to

1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:54.280
<v Speaker 2>be able to act without any.

1:02:54.160 --> 1:02:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Lines to exhibit, like grief. I don't know. Tough job.

1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:02.840
<v Speaker 2>So Elias's parents look more shocked than relieved at first.

1:03:02.960 --> 1:03:05.360
<v Speaker 2>The judge is like, excuse me, the people are with

1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:08.920
<v Speaker 2>drawing charges and she's like, he lacked the mensraa to

1:03:08.960 --> 1:03:12.200
<v Speaker 2>commit a crime and that's a legally blonde term, okay a,

1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And she says, so we will not pursue the case.

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<v Speaker 2>His parents cry with joy. Carly's mom looks uncomfortable and

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know how to feel. She's looking around and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, this is very tough to watch. Cabot is

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<v Speaker 2>being surrounded outside by the press and is like, I

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of you don't agree with what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's something I'd like you to hear. A black

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<v Speaker 2>man from the crowd yells another killed black person, and

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<v Speaker 2>like someone gets free. This is fucked, and she responds,

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<v Speaker 2>the cycle of violence has got to stop somewhere, let

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<v Speaker 2>it be here, and then Carly's mom walks forward. She

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<v Speaker 2>introduces herself to the media frenzy, I know you're all

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<v Speaker 2>here out of concern, and I thank you, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have a favor to ask. Go home, take care of

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<v Speaker 2>your children. And she walks off, barely able to stand

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<v Speaker 2>up straight or breathe. So Cabot walks into the squad

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<v Speaker 2>room and they all hail her a hero and congrat

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<v Speaker 2>her and Stabler and company are there and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go to mcmullens for a drink, but the

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<v Speaker 2>phone rings first.

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<v Speaker 3>You know this isn't good. Craigan answers.

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<v Speaker 2>Finn Is like, wait, you come in, and he you

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<v Speaker 2>come in to the bar, Craigan, I know you're sober.

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<v Speaker 2>You come in for a milk bro or what? And

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<v Speaker 2>he slowly hangs up the phone. And then we're just

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<v Speaker 2>at a crime scene. The neighbors jumped in would have

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<v Speaker 2>killed him if we hadn't been a block away. Benson

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<v Speaker 2>and Stabler walk and the uniform cop says the killer

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<v Speaker 2>is twelve, he was an outraged citizen and goes by

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<v Speaker 2>the name TJ. And then so, yeah, Elias is fucking dead. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so sad. It's this little baby on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Elias is shot on the ground dead.

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<v Speaker 2>A young twelve year old is being taken away in

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<v Speaker 2>handcuffs and he yells, you can't kill a sister and

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<v Speaker 2>just walk. He gets stuffed into a cop car. Benson says,

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<v Speaker 2>the cycle never ends, does it? Then Stabler says, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the Gaza strip like.

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<v Speaker 3>Years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like this show is always like ahead of time,

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<v Speaker 2>behind its time, works in cycle, always relevant sometimes like

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<v Speaker 2>it is just yeah, but like there goes a twelve

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<v Speaker 2>year old kid that's gonna spend his life in jail.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's horrible. It's like the whole thing is horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>And now two kids are dead, like and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>dr violy wish this twelve year old did not do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what I don't get though.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really get why cab it can just be

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<v Speaker 1>like give it up, Like, isn't she gonna get in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble for her boss.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's like, let's go have a drink.

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<v Speaker 1>We did it, and it's like, but you dropped the

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<v Speaker 1>case and your boss said you had to try the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Well she did. She she tried it and then decided.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I just I still feel like I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I thought there would be a line about her being like,

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<v Speaker 1>well I'm gonna get my ass handed to me but

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<v Speaker 1>whatever or what you know, like but instead it was

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<v Speaker 1>all like you nailed it, let's go shots on me,

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<v Speaker 1>and like it just I felt like she was still

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, maybe mens Rea is like a more

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, having Carly's mom sort of speak to the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>was like a good, like pr move on her part,

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe that's like.

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<v Speaker 3>What they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but yeah, him bringing up the Gaza strip

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in time this episode, you know, coming

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<v Speaker 1>out while this everything's happening is really wild. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>keep your sadness, keep your sadness level at a high,

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<v Speaker 1>because we'll be right back with the real story. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just after a few messages from our sponsors, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we are back and this case is sad, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it is this case of Kayla Rowland. Kayla Renee Rowland

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Morris Township, Michigan, which is just north of Flint, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>She was only six years old in February of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand when she was shot by a classmate at THEO. J.

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<v Speaker 3>Buell Elementary School.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was another six year old, Like, honestly, Elias

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<v Speaker 1>is seven, This is another six year old. They're in

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<v Speaker 1>first grade. The boy's father was in prison for parole violation.

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<v Speaker 1>Previous arrests included possession of cocaine and burglary. His mom

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<v Speaker 1>had was working two jobs, like a lot like this family,

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to you know, make ends meet. But she

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<v Speaker 1>was evicted from her place of living because she was

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<v Speaker 1>only making one hundred and seventy five dollars a week

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<v Speaker 1>and could not pay the rent. So she and her

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<v Speaker 1>two sons went to live with her brother, and the

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<v Speaker 1>shooter and his eight year old brother shared a sofa

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<v Speaker 1>at their uncle's house. And the uncle's house is allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>a house where a lot of drugs and guns are around.

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<v Speaker 3>One article called it a crack house.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's like an appropriate term or

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<v Speaker 1>what qualifies that, but that's what, you know, the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of living situation he was in. This kid already had

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<v Speaker 1>behavioral problems. This is like different from the episode Elias

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<v Speaker 1>was like apparently this little angel, this kid had behavioral problems,

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<v Speaker 1>was in detention all the time for swearing, hitting, flipping

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<v Speaker 1>the bird. Weeks before the shooting, he stabbed a classmate

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<v Speaker 1>with a pencil, and he had attacked Kayla before, and

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<v Speaker 1>the day before her death he had tried kissing her

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<v Speaker 1>and was rejected and that made him mad. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>they're six years old, so not sure when it was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody really knows when. But at some point, this six

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<v Speaker 1>year old boy found a loaded thirty two caliber handgun

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<v Speaker 1>in a Puma shoe box at his uncle's house.

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<v Speaker 3>He brought it to school along with a knife.

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<v Speaker 1>During passing time, he said to Kayla, I don't like you,

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<v Speaker 1>before shooting her in front of a teacher and two

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<v Speaker 1>dozen other students. She was shot once in the shoulder,

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<v Speaker 1>but it like tore through her chest and hit a

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<v Speaker 1>vital organ because she was shot a few minutes before

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<v Speaker 1>ten am, and she was pronounced dead at the hospital

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<v Speaker 1>by ten to nine am. So she here was this

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand the beginning of the same year. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>came out at the beginning of the year. Yeah, really horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>The shooter put the gun in a desk after the

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<v Speaker 1>shooting and simply walked away is what I read.

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<v Speaker 3>Police said they talked to the boy.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not cry, and when he was finished talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the police, he just sat and drew pictures. Authorities,

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<v Speaker 1>but this sounds like a boy that's seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of bad shit, been through a lot of bad shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and is hardened, you know, like, and probably also doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>fully grasp what he's done. Authorities said the boy did

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<v Speaker 1>not seem to get what happened. At a news conference,

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<v Speaker 1>the Genesee County Prosecutor Arthur A. Bush said, quote, it

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<v Speaker 1>was their impression, the investigators that the boy didn't understand

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<v Speaker 1>what he had done and did not appreciate the consequences

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<v Speaker 1>of his actions, and appeared to take this as some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of well that this just kind of happens like

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<v Speaker 1>on television. This is a young boy six years old

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<v Speaker 1>who cannot obviously form criminal intent. He does not seem

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<v Speaker 1>to understand the gravity of the event.

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<v Speaker 3>End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>He also commented, quote, he was treating it as if

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<v Speaker 1>it a toy, because I don't think he had too

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<v Speaker 1>many toys, which that seems like not I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's relevant. But the boy was not charged with murder

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<v Speaker 1>because of his age, and was released to the custody

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<v Speaker 1>of an aunt and this case, and I believe with

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<v Speaker 1>his sister and brother, he went with the aunt. This

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<v Speaker 1>case obviously got a ton of attention because of how

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<v Speaker 1>young the victim and the shooter were at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Kayla was the youngest school shooting victim in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was before Sandy Hook happened in twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>ten years later, twelve years later, with almost no change,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a picture of Kayla in a Winnie the

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<v Speaker 1>Poo Tee shirt was like on the cover of Newsweek,

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<v Speaker 1>and the story was featured in a lot of national magazines,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Kids, you remember it is I don't remember this happening. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in college. Actually I was in college, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so bad, but I don't remember this happening. The

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<v Speaker 1>boy being so young was also tragic. But also it's

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<v Speaker 1>so tragic that nothing has changed, Like in this year,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Three, a six year old just shot his teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>In Virginia, So it's like been twenty three years later,

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff as happening. The shooter's mother was named

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<v Speaker 1>Tamarla Owens. She was originally charged with child neglect, but

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<v Speaker 1>that case was eventually dismissed. Jamelle James was a nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old man living in the home with the shooter's uncle,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was the owner of the gun that killed Kayla.

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<v Speaker 1>He pleaded no contest to involuntary manslaughter and he did

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<v Speaker 1>get two to fifteen years and he served two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. So he kind of said in court like

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't plead guilty, but he pleaded no contests, like

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<v Speaker 1>he took response, he's like, I get I have to

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<v Speaker 1>do time for this. Buell Elementary closed in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and two. Two years later due to dwindling enrollments stressed finances,

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<v Speaker 1>the campus was damaged by arson and five and demolished

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and nine. Michael Moore, who was actually

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<v Speaker 1>from Flint, referenced Kayla's murder in the movie Bowling for Columbine,

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<v Speaker 1>which was, you know, his attempt to convince our sick

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<v Speaker 1>fucking country to make stricter gun laws. And then Kayla

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<v Speaker 1>became the face of the gun control debate for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>President Clinton promised the mother quote as president, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to do everything I can to see that this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen to other children.

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<v Speaker 3>End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>He met with congressional leaders the week after Kayla's death

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<v Speaker 1>and asked how many people have to get killed before

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<v Speaker 1>we do something? And it's like, oh, you have no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the numbers just going to keep growing and climbing

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<v Speaker 1>and for the next two decades. And but a year

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<v Speaker 1>later Clinton was out of office, George W. Bush was

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<v Speaker 1>in some legislation called Kayla's Law, which had proposed a

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<v Speaker 1>federal waiting period for firearms purchased at gun shows, had

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<v Speaker 1>gone nowhere, And you know, we are where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the fucked up case that this is based on.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have like the drug angle, but just the

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<v Speaker 1>angle of children getting their hands on guns. And my

1:12:47.040 --> 1:12:49.840
<v Speaker 1>friend actually who listens to the podcast, my lovely friend,

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote me because we talked about this on another

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<v Speaker 1>episode and like about how you talk to parents about

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<v Speaker 1>how you find out when there's a gun in the

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<v Speaker 1>home of like kids, because I I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it on the podcast, being like how am

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<v Speaker 1>I going to handle that? And she was like, the

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<v Speaker 1>way I actually do it is like, hey, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to know if you have a gun, is it

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<v Speaker 1>locked up? Like not to judge anyone for having a gun,

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<v Speaker 1>you know more, just like is the gun locked up

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<v Speaker 1>if you have it? And she said it has actually

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<v Speaker 1>sparked a lot of great conversations with parents and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking forward to when I don't send my

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<v Speaker 1>kids on play dates alone yet because.

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<v Speaker 3>They're too young and out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>But when that starts to happen, you know, it's a good,

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<v Speaker 1>good thing to ask, a necessary thing to ask. So

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<v Speaker 1>we will be back in moments with our post mortem.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into our post mortem. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what a sad sad episode? This is really like I

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<v Speaker 1>think I said get ready to get sad in one

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<v Speaker 1>of our very first episodes, and a few people along

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<v Speaker 1>the lines have asked us for that merch. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna wear it watching any episode, it's this one.

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<v Speaker 1>It really starts bad, continues to be bad, ends bad.

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<v Speaker 2>We should do that, though, I know that's good murder,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good idea. Yeah, well, time to get sad?

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<v Speaker 2>You get ready to get sad? Ready, get ready to

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<v Speaker 2>get sad?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But like I mean, honestly, all in all, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like just the gun sickness in our country is obviously horrific,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can't let guns get into the hands of

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<v Speaker 1>small children because this is what happens. And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that seems like pretty obvious, slow hanging fruit

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<v Speaker 1>message for the show, but that's just how I feel that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a gun, it needs to be locked up,

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<v Speaker 1>YadA YadA. I think everybody should have to take a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking training course to use one. To be honest, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to take a training course to use a car. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The gun nuts are always in la la land with

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<v Speaker 2>their arguments and what ifs, and it's like, at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, so easy.

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<v Speaker 3>A gun should be just like a car.

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<v Speaker 2>You want a license to have a gun, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to take a test and practice and are written and

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<v Speaker 2>then you can get it. And guess what if you

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<v Speaker 2>have two duys or you beat your wife, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get it. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I don't understand how it's just like a free

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<v Speaker 1>for all. It's because that people will be like, why

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<v Speaker 1>would I have to get a test, Like, well, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been shooting since I was too Then the test will

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<v Speaker 1>be easy for you to pass. The test will be

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<v Speaker 1>so easy. Get in there, take it. You don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have to study you know how to use a gun

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<v Speaker 1>so good. But yeah, it's never like, you know, it's crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like have you ever considered having a gun? When I

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<v Speaker 1>first moved to New York City by myself, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty four, and I was like, twenty a gun,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I thought, maybe a tiny little one for like

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<v Speaker 1>my bedside table. And then I was like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you fucking It was like a flicker of a thought,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, never in a million years should

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<v Speaker 1>I have a gun. Also, I never felt unsafe in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City. I think it was just I had

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<v Speaker 1>just moved there and I'd like watched too many movies

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<v Speaker 1>and was like, what do I do if somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>tries to get into my apartment? Never happened, Like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, I just I'm confessing right now that

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<v Speaker 1>at the age of twenty four, I had a flicker

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<v Speaker 1>of a thought of getting like a cute little pink

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<v Speaker 1>gun or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh if you if the thought of a pink gun

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<v Speaker 2>has never crossed.

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<v Speaker 3>Your mind, you're a liar. You're a liar. There's no way.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, like the little gun from Men in Blacks showed

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<v Speaker 2>you that little guns have lots of power. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I never had mace.

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<v Speaker 1>I never had anything in New York. I never even

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<v Speaker 1>had like a pointy key ring.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I wish I did, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>But someone was telling me that the keys between the

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<v Speaker 2>fingers is actually a bad idea because if you punch,

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<v Speaker 2>the key can like rip your skin in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>and it actually like fucks up your fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, yeah, I'm sure a rapist taught us

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<v Speaker 3>how to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but also like yeah, but also, don't you think

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<v Speaker 1>rip your fingers?

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<v Speaker 3>Who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>At least you get like a key in somebody's eyeball

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>There was more like we have to we have to

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<v Speaker 3>read about it, okay, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like how it's like how like you're not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to like put your thumb inside the fist when you punch.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're gonna the rapists start giving us bad

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<v Speaker 1>advice how to defend ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think bear mace I would do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm into I think about a gun all the time

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<v Speaker 2>because when the world, you know, who knows what's Sorry

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<v Speaker 2>to bring this up, but the election is a nightmare

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<v Speaker 2>and depending on what happens, Unfortunately a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>I don't agree with have guns, so like we need guns.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about the end of the world and having

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<v Speaker 2>a gun all the time. Yeah, I think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not a person that says, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of all the guns. I'm not, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just like wanted to be regulated in some fucking

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way. Jesus, I don't think anybody needs a

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<v Speaker 1>R fifteen's But that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, this is like old news, and I guess this

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<v Speaker 2>is more of an intro than a post mortem topic.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, we had our holiday party. We saw Casey. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw Casey in person. We did I mostly corner

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Holmes, oh yeah, and I played and I played bowl,

1:17:55.920 --> 1:17:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I played bowling.

1:17:56.640 --> 1:17:59.000
<v Speaker 3>I bowled with him and his husband and I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>I someone else tried to come talk to me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I have day Ulms here and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna stick with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was deathly hungover for three days. I was telling

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<v Speaker 1>Casey before you got on the zoom, like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>my problem is. I went to a kid playdate where

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<v Speaker 1>I love the moms, and so we had a couple

1:18:17.160 --> 1:18:19.599
<v Speaker 1>glasses of wine together and then I was like, okay,

1:18:19.640 --> 1:18:22.519
<v Speaker 1>gotta go going to my holiday party. Went and like

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<v Speaker 1>went to the holiday party as if I was sober,

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<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't feeling anything. But those two glasses of

1:18:26.720 --> 1:18:29.160
<v Speaker 1>wine are still in your system. And then I just

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<v Speaker 1>proceeded to start from scratching my mind and just drink

1:18:32.160 --> 1:18:35.799
<v Speaker 1>all night. And then Thursday was I did almost nothing.

1:18:35.880 --> 1:18:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I like caught up on all my housewives and like

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<v Speaker 1>light on the couch like a dead seal.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry if that's a bad image. I just was like

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<v Speaker 3>a beached whale.

1:18:43.160 --> 1:18:46.040
<v Speaker 1>And then I then I that night, I went out

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<v Speaker 1>to dinner with people, did not drink. I had Shirley temples.

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<v Speaker 1>I did Alisa, I had Shirley temples. Then I went

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<v Speaker 1>the next night to a party, did not touch a

1:18:52.840 --> 1:18:55.400
<v Speaker 1>bounce of alcohol, Like I just could not do it.

1:18:55.520 --> 1:18:57.960
<v Speaker 1>And then finally on the fourth night when I had

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<v Speaker 1>another holiday party, I had two glasses of wine the

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<v Speaker 1>entire evening and I went to two parties. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I'm not fucking with alcohol right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't, you know, I don't get hungover much,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I do, it's the feeling stays in my system.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, yeah, because when you texted me, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>quite early in the day and you had already watched

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<v Speaker 2>two episodes of Bravo and I go, this isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't Kara what Yeah the morning because I kind

1:19:25.280 --> 1:19:27.080
<v Speaker 3>of canceled everything I had to do and was like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna die.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I didn't make it to that one party

1:19:31.479 --> 1:19:33.920
<v Speaker 2>that I wanted to go to. Were their celeb sidings.

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<v Speaker 2>There were, but it wasn't as star studded as last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a great time, but it was.

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<v Speaker 1>There was still our favorite bravohead Jerry O'Connell, but he

1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:45.880
<v Speaker 1>was not there with his wife this time, and the

1:19:45.960 --> 1:19:48.400
<v Speaker 1>instinct member that we saw last year, Lands Bass, was

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<v Speaker 1>not in attendance. But it's like fun. I talk to

1:19:51.600 --> 1:19:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Brian Safie for a while. You know, it's like fun.

1:19:54.120 --> 1:19:57.600
<v Speaker 1>People are at it. But once again, if you're a

1:19:57.680 --> 1:20:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Rona and Beverly person, I saw Beverly from across the

1:20:00.280 --> 1:20:02.760
<v Speaker 1>party and had a perfect opportunity to go up and

1:20:02.760 --> 1:20:04.519
<v Speaker 1>introduce myself and never did. And now I have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait another calendar year to try to do it because

1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I love her so much and I really want to

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<v Speaker 1>meet her.

1:20:08.479 --> 1:20:11.040
<v Speaker 3>But I was too I was like two. I felt weird.

1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:15.160
<v Speaker 3>I just didn't do it. Yeah, so I got to

1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:17.320
<v Speaker 3>go with your heart. It's tough. It's tough.

1:20:17.439 --> 1:20:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some people have any effects on you and you

1:20:20.000 --> 1:20:23.800
<v Speaker 1>can't really control it. I know because I Yeah, I

1:20:23.880 --> 1:20:25.920
<v Speaker 1>was kind of waiting for something to happen naturally, but

1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's a massive party that's not happening.

1:20:28.400 --> 1:20:31.880
<v Speaker 2>But oh sorry, I was gonna bring it back to

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<v Speaker 2>our episode. No, I was gonna say universal child care

1:20:36.760 --> 1:20:41.240
<v Speaker 2>for all. Yes, if there was universal child care, there

1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:44.559
<v Speaker 2>would be so many problems that are that are happening.

1:20:44.960 --> 1:20:48.360
<v Speaker 2>And I've been having veep on in the background of

1:20:48.360 --> 1:20:52.559
<v Speaker 2>my life lately, and it's like she wanted to go

1:20:52.640 --> 1:20:55.800
<v Speaker 2>for universal childcare and she couldn't, and it's like, yeah,

1:20:55.840 --> 1:20:57.320
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck take care of the kid.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want everyone working take care of the kids,

1:20:59.560 --> 1:21:03.639
<v Speaker 3>then like do something. Shit. Yeah, oh, I will say.

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<v Speaker 1>At the second party that I went to, I saw

1:21:05.800 --> 1:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>an La specific celebrity sighting that was one of the

1:21:09.880 --> 1:21:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Nithia Raman, one of the city council women who I

1:21:12.280 --> 1:21:14.040
<v Speaker 1>like love, and I was like, I.

1:21:14.000 --> 1:21:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Go, is that Nythiat?

1:21:15.040 --> 1:21:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Like she was like the biggest celeb at this party,

1:21:16.680 --> 1:21:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and there were other celebs at this party like, it

1:21:18.520 --> 1:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>was so funny, and I met her husband, but I

1:21:22.000 --> 1:21:25.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't meet her, but it was it was fun. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into this week's what would Sister Peg Do?

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<v Speaker 1>This is our weekly segment where we direct you towards

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<v Speaker 1>an organization a blog post.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny, I say blog post. It sounds so

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<v Speaker 3>like two thousand and.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven article book something to give you more info about

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<v Speaker 1>what we talked about today and this week, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to just point you guys to the organization Mom's Demand

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<v Speaker 1>Action for Gun Sense in America. I follow them on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>They I support a lot of what they do. They

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<v Speaker 1>are an American grassroots movement dedicated to passing stronger gun

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<v Speaker 1>laws and closing legal loopholes for gun ownership. They also

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<v Speaker 1>work with communities and business leaders to encourage a culture

1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:03.040
<v Speaker 1>responsible gun ownership and I love what they do. So

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<v Speaker 1>to volunteer or donate, head on over to Mom's Demand

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<v Speaker 1>Action dot org. That will be posted the data this

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<v Speaker 1>episode comes out on our Instagram in the stories and

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<v Speaker 1>then saved forever in our WWSPD highlight. Amazing, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's fucked, but it does remind me of stop

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<v Speaker 2>or my mom will shoot, even though it's the opposite sentiment. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so does that make sense? Not at all? Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't react at all. No, I'm sorry I was. I

1:22:29.439 --> 1:22:31.840
<v Speaker 2>made a joke that wasn't that good. But you also

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't react at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sorry. I was looking down.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize we had an ad to record, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking down and seeing it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry I was. I should be listening. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I just said it's not right, but it reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>of stop or my mom will shoot, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite sentiment.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's it. It's just so, that's all I thought of.

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<v Speaker 1>But you were silent, so I obviously got in my

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<v Speaker 1>fat Yeah, the office, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Yeah, okay, okay, that's so funny. Okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>did you already say next week's episode? Not at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Next week episode is dependent? Season eight, episode fourteen, dependent,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of how your parents had you on their Texas

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<v Speaker 2>for longer than you would like to admit. We'll see

1:23:23.479 --> 1:23:26.360
<v Speaker 2>you guys next week. We're obsessed with all of you.

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<v Speaker 2>But also tell a friend to listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, let's go Yeah, let's get the fucking word out.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys. All right, we love you, See you next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Dun dun