Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is verdict with center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you,
Speaker 2: and Senator let's start with the big news. It is
Speaker 2: the red carpet welcome to the communists from China, Jijingping.
Speaker 2: He came to America and boy did we clean up
Speaker 2: the world for him in San Francisco and literally gave
Speaker 2: him a red carpet welcoming. This is the present, told
Speaker 2: being it's time, it's good to see you again.
Speaker 1: And he also said something else.
Speaker 2: It was incredibly shocking, and I want to get your
Speaker 2: take on it. He said this at the table at
Speaker 2: their first meeting. Sitting to his left was Janet Yellen.
Speaker 2: Sitting to his right was Anthony Blincoln. At that table,
Speaker 2: you had John carry down at one end as well.
Speaker 2: It was the full Biden you know, red carpet welcome.
Speaker 2: And here's what he said.
Speaker 3: We also have a responsibility to our people and in
Speaker 3: the world to work together when we see it in
Speaker 3: our interest to do so.
Speaker 2: Okay, we also have responsibility to our people and to
Speaker 2: the world to work together.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 3: No, of course it's not. And listen that this was
Speaker 3: a sad meeting. It was a meeting of capitulation. This
Speaker 3: was by any measure, it was a meeting of the
Speaker 3: world's most powerful communist and the president of China.
Speaker 2: You look at them meeting, and you see this happening
Speaker 2: in us rolling out the red carpet for him. Look
Speaker 2: at the past here, and let's just go through some
Speaker 2: of these since he's taken office. Biden allowed a Chinese
Speaker 2: spy balloon to survey our entire country, knowing what it
Speaker 2: was doing, spying on us, and refused to shoot it
Speaker 2: down until after it already completed its mission. Biden resumed
Speaker 2: funding for the World Health Organization despite China's significant influence.
Speaker 2: And then, just to put in perspective, Biden bought one
Speaker 2: point three billion, not million, but billion dollars in Chinese
Speaker 2: made COVID tests and then gave them to Americans. On
Speaker 2: top of the fact that Biden let China build secret
Speaker 2: spying facilities in nearby countries that could survey America. And
Speaker 2: that's just the beginning of the list that's been all
Speaker 2: for China, nothing to protect America.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, there's a fundamental problem, which is Joe Biden
Speaker 3: and the Democrat Party are structurally pro China. And the
Speaker 3: reason for this, and I explain this at length in
Speaker 3: my brand new book, which is on Amazon right now,
Speaker 3: in bookstores right now, go buy it. But in the book,
Speaker 3: I explained the reason the Democrat Party is so indebted
Speaker 3: to China is every one of their major stakeholders, big business,
Speaker 3: big tech, big Hollywood, big universities, all of them are
Speaker 3: in bed with China, and so Joe Biden. Joe Biden
Speaker 3: is spent literally fifty years in Washington as an apologist
Speaker 3: for the Chinese communists, defending them, saying, come on, man,
Speaker 3: there are friends. They're not our enemies. There are friends.
Speaker 3: He's been saying that for fifty years. So look, you
Speaker 3: mentioned a minute ago been the Chinese spibulon the Chinese
Speaker 3: spibulin number one. We would never have known about that
Speaker 3: if some intrepid ranchers in Montana hadn't looked up and
Speaker 3: seen the damn thing in the sky. That's the only
Speaker 3: reason we know about it. It was literally a couple
Speaker 3: of guys in Montana that had telescopes that said, what
Speaker 3: the hell is that? And they tweeted about it, and
Speaker 3: suddenly the Biden Administration's like, oh crap, the Chinese are
Speaker 3: surveilling our military installations are engaging in espionage over the
Speaker 3: United States. Don't mind you. They didn't shoot it down
Speaker 3: when it entered US airspace. They allowed it to cross
Speaker 3: US airspace, they allowed it to hover over US military installation,
Speaker 3: they allowed it to engage in ongoing espionage and surveillance.
Speaker 3: And it was only after it had crossed the entire
Speaker 3: continental United States that had crossed in the Atlantic Ocean.
Speaker 3: Then they shot it down after its mission was over,
Speaker 3: after it had broadcast all of the espionage back to China.
Speaker 3: Then they shut it down as a PR move. And
Speaker 3: then it got really ridiculous. If you remember, the Biden
Speaker 3: administration proceeded to shoot several other things down, including what
Speaker 3: appears to be a weather balloon launched by a bunch
Speaker 3: of high school students in Illinois. So we spent presumably
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars missile to knock down a one
Speaker 3: hundred dollars balloon. That's the Biden administration. And the reason is, look,
Speaker 3: this was about politics and PR It was not about
Speaker 3: standing up to China. And so when Biden went to
Speaker 3: San Francisco, he does not have an objective of defending
Speaker 3: our nation from our most significant enemy. One of the
Speaker 3: things I discussed in the book Unwoke is how when
Speaker 3: I arrived in the Senate eleven years ago, I was
Speaker 3: arguing then that China poses the greatest geopolitical threat to
Speaker 3: the United States for the next century, that this is
Speaker 3: a massive battle, and we need to come together and understand.
Speaker 3: China is waging a thousand year war. Their objective is
Speaker 3: complete geopolitical domination. And right now the Biden administration not
Speaker 3: only as not opposed to that, they're supporting that, they're
Speaker 3: emphatically in bed with China. And we need to get serious.
Speaker 3: And by the way, when I got here in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 3: my view is a wild minority view. All of the
Speaker 3: Democrats disagreed with me, and most of the Republicans disagreed
Speaker 3: with me. They frankly, they looked at China. They saw
Speaker 3: nothing but dollar signs as far as the eye could see.
Speaker 3: They just saw lots and lots of money. And at
Speaker 3: this point, we have seen China number one, engage in
Speaker 3: systematic murder torture. They have concentration camps with over one
Speaker 3: million kures in slave labor. They engage at espionage, they
Speaker 3: engage in theft at a global level. In a way
Speaker 3: that's never been happened before. Look, espionage and theft has
Speaker 3: always been part of human relations, but we've never had
Speaker 3: a nation state with trillions of dollars of GDP investing
Speaker 3: in stealing the intellectual property of the United States. That
Speaker 3: that is a new dynamic. And none of that even
Speaker 3: takes into account China's incredible culpability with the COVID virus.
Speaker 3: I believe the overwhelming weight of the evidence suggests that
Speaker 3: the COVID virus escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology,
Speaker 3: and I think the majority of the evidence. I don't
Speaker 3: think it is as compelling, but I think it is
Speaker 3: more likely than not that the virus was manufactured by
Speaker 3: the Chinese government in that land, That they took existing coronaviruses,
Speaker 3: that they modified them using gain of function research. They
Speaker 3: made the more transmissible, they made the more deadly, they
Speaker 3: made the more dangerous for humans, and then it was
Speaker 3: released from the Wuhana Institute Virology. That means, and then
Speaker 3: after that happened, it is undisputed that China covered it up.
Speaker 3: They disappeared the whistleblowers, they disappeared the doctors, they hid
Speaker 3: the break of COVID nineteen and on any level, China
Speaker 3: bears enormous culpability for the millions of deaths that came
Speaker 3: from COVID, from the trillions of dollars of economic damage
Speaker 3: that came from COVID. And you know what, Joe Biden
Speaker 3: didn't say a damn word about any of that when
Speaker 3: he sat down with she in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of the things when he said down with him
Speaker 2: is this idea. And you could see it in the Democrats.
Speaker 2: They were really pushing this idea center that we needed
Speaker 2: a grand reset with China. We need to open back
Speaker 2: up relations where we're talking with them, or their military
Speaker 2: is talking with our military, and this is all about
Speaker 2: a grand reset. Did we really need a grand reset
Speaker 2: with China?
Speaker 3: Look, grand reset is the favorite approach of the Democrats.
Speaker 3: You'll recall Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State,
Speaker 3: she engaged in a quote grand reset with Russia. In fact,
Speaker 3: she went over and she met with Lavrov, the Foreign
Speaker 3: Minister of Russia, with a big red button. It was
Speaker 3: very theatrical, but their idea was mean. Old Republicans viewed
Speaker 3: Russia as our enemy. We now know Russia is our friend.
Speaker 3: By the way, remember the debate in twenty twelve. You
Speaker 3: and I both watched them between Obama and Mitt Romney,
Speaker 3: where Mitt Romney was saying in twenty twelve that he
Speaker 3: saw Russia as an enormous geopolitical threat. You remember what
Speaker 3: Barack Obama said in response to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, with the Cold War is over, they're
Speaker 2: calling for the talking points back and calmed down.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He looked at Mitt and he said, the nineteen
Speaker 3: eighties are calling they want their talking points back. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it was this smug liberal sense that Russia is
Speaker 3: now our friend and we're going to have a grand
Speaker 3: reset with Russia. Mind you, we're in the middle of
Speaker 3: friggin war in Ukraine that Biden caused because of his weakness.
Speaker 3: They now describe Putin as the modern day Hitler. And
Speaker 3: yet these imbeciles did a grand reset a decade ago.
Speaker 3: That's the Democrat Party. So now their grand reset is
Speaker 3: with China. Never mind that China is unambiguously hostile to America.
Speaker 3: They wanted to feed America, they wanted to displace US
Speaker 3: as the world's economic superpower. They want to displace US militarily.
Speaker 3: They want to dominate the United States of America. And
Speaker 3: yet Democrats say that is hunky dory. We are all
Speaker 3: in with communist China.
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Speaker 2: Ping coming to this country and the symbolism of that.
Speaker 2: I mean, this was important. I think for him, he
Speaker 2: wanted to come here. I'm sure he's laughing in their meetings,
Speaker 2: going wow, we exported COVID and really hurt financially America.
Speaker 2: Interest rates are up, we have a lot of their debt.
Speaker 2: They're paying us even more money. And now we're walking
Speaker 2: off the plane to this red carpet welcome. What does
Speaker 2: this do to embolden him, especially on the issue of Taiwan.
Speaker 3: Look on Taiwan. She has got to feel incredibly encouraged.
Speaker 3: He looks at Joe Biden Number one. Any enemy of
Speaker 3: America that sits down with Joe Biden recognizes this man
Speaker 3: is too old, his mental capacity is not there. He
Speaker 3: is not an effective commander in chief. There is a
Speaker 3: reason the world has gone to hell in a handbasket.
Speaker 3: Think about it. Two and a half years ago, Joe
Speaker 3: Biden came into the White House. He inherited peace and prosperity.
Speaker 3: The world was in very good shape. We now have
Speaker 3: two simultaneous wars. We have the biggest war in Europe
Speaker 3: since World War II and simultaneously the worst war in
Speaker 3: the Middle East in fifty years. That's what happens when
Speaker 3: the US commander in chief is weak and and effective,
Speaker 3: and nobody is afraid of him, nobody thinks he's credible,
Speaker 3: nobody thinks he will follow through on anything. And she
Speaker 3: is looking at that saying, there has never been a
Speaker 3: better time in the history of the universe for China
Speaker 3: to invade Taiwan than right now today. And the fact
Speaker 3: that Joe Biden welcomes she to China and basically bends
Speaker 3: down and kisses his ass that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's something on foreign policy that is counterintuitive. Where people
Speaker 3: think strength, some people on the media's democrats think strength
Speaker 3: make it more likely to go to war. It's actually
Speaker 3: the exact opposite weakness makes war most likely. I hate war.
Speaker 3: I am someone who is extremely, extremely reluctant to send
Speaker 3: US servicemen and women into combat. Yesterday I had the
Speaker 3: great privilege I sat down with about twenty twenty five
Speaker 3: West Point cadets who came to visit me in my office,
Speaker 3: something I've done several years in a row. And I
Speaker 3: love meeting with these young men and women who signed
Speaker 3: up to defend our nation. They're incredible scholars and leaders
Speaker 3: and athletes. They have character, and we talked. We had
Speaker 3: a good hour hour and a half conversation, but we
Speaker 3: talked about, among other things, foreign policy. And I said, look,
Speaker 3: I consider myself a non interventionist. Talk I think you
Speaker 3: should be very reluctant to send US servicemen and women
Speaker 3: into harm's way. But the way you prevent war is
Speaker 3: you're strong enough that nobody wants to screw with you.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden is embodying the opposite of that, which is
Speaker 3: he is so weak, he's so ineffective that every enemy
Speaker 3: of America is in bolden. I've joked before there is
Speaker 3: a reason nobody studies at the Neville Chamberlain School of
Speaker 3: Foreign Airs. Appeasement doesn't work. Just this week, Biden announced
Speaker 3: billions more for Iran. Iran fun Samas, trains the Hamas terrorists,
Speaker 3: sends them into Israel, commits horrific acts of terror. And
Speaker 3: what is Biden said here? I have a few billion
Speaker 3: more That is truly stunning. And so she is looking
Speaker 3: at this saying, hey, I don't think she has a
Speaker 3: tiniest bit of concern about what Biden would do if
Speaker 3: he invaded Taiwan and China. Innovading Taiwan would be absolutely
Speaker 3: catastrophic for the US economy and US national security, because,
Speaker 3: among other things, we are profoundly dependent upon Taiwan and
Speaker 3: China for advanced semiconductors. Advanced semiconductors are used in just
Speaker 3: about every electronics we use, from our cell phones to
Speaker 3: our cars, to our trucks, to our planes, to our
Speaker 3: military weapons to missiles, and and just about every device
Speaker 3: of modern life uses advanced semiconductors. And if China invades Taiwan,
Speaker 3: the US economy and the US military is in a
Speaker 3: stranglehold of China. And I got to say, every time
Speaker 3: Biden shows weakness to China, the chances of that go
Speaker 3: up dramatically.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the possibility of the Biden's being compromised.
Speaker 2: If you look at the list, and this list, I
Speaker 2: do want to go through it because I think it's
Speaker 2: really important. It doesn't sound like this is a list
Speaker 2: that a normal president would allow to happen under his watch.
Speaker 2: I mentioned a few of these earlier, but I want
Speaker 2: to start the very beginning again. Biden allowed the Chinese
Speaker 2: by balloon to have surveillance of our entire country. He
Speaker 2: resumed the funding for the World Health Organization despite China's
Speaker 2: massively influence. Biden brought one point three billion dollars, bought
Speaker 2: one point three billion, and Chinese made COVID tests and
Speaker 2: then gave them to the Americans with our tax dollars.
Speaker 2: He let Chining to build these secret spying facilities in
Speaker 2: nearby countries. He reversed in order to limit the Chinese
Speaker 2: spyware app TikTok. That was honestly shocking. He missed the
Speaker 2: deadline to declassify intel on the Wuhan lab. And I
Speaker 2: want to also ask you specifically about that in a moment,
Speaker 2: so let's put an asterisk by that. Biden also told
Speaker 2: a rum of Democrat donors, don't worry about China, Biden
Speaker 2: said repeatedly, the US does not want to decouple from China,
Speaker 2: and Biden admitted he doesn't want to contain China either,
Speaker 2: especially when it comes to the issue of Taiwan. Biden
Speaker 2: ignored Chinese hackers breaching the email accounts of senior US
Speaker 2: government officials and did not basically go after China or
Speaker 2: warned them any capacity that wasn't meaningful, and then Biden
Speaker 2: declared he's not concerned about China yet again. Now you
Speaker 2: put all that together under the last two and a
Speaker 2: half years of this man's presidency, and then you put
Speaker 2: it side by side with the business dealings of Biden
Speaker 2: crime family directly with these people in China and these
Speaker 2: companies connected the Chinese Communist Party and those that are
Speaker 2: even connected to the Chinese intelligence apparatus, a spying apparatus
Speaker 2: of the Chinese Communist Party. Is some of this actually
Speaker 2: as simplistic as it looks that, hey, this guy may
Speaker 2: be compromised by the Chinese.
Speaker 3: So look, I think it's both. There is serious evidence
Speaker 3: of corruption from Communist China that millions of dollars flowed
Speaker 3: to Hunter Biden, to Joe Biden, to the Biden crime family.
Speaker 3: That is an enormous problem, and it does compromise the president.
Speaker 3: I believe there also is a second component that again
Speaker 3: millions of dollars flowed to University of Pennsylvania to create
Speaker 3: the Biden Center there when Biden was there to get
Speaker 3: a cushy job post vice presidency. Again, I think that
Speaker 3: compromises President Biden. But the truth of the matter is,
Speaker 3: I think he'd do all of this garbage if he
Speaker 3: hadn't made a penny from China, because I think ideologically
Speaker 3: he is pro China. Illogically he is in bed with China,
Speaker 3: and so he is someone who has been wrong on
Speaker 3: every foreign policy issue of the last fifty years. He
Speaker 3: systematically and consistently wrong. When he sees an enemy, his
Speaker 3: instinct is appease the enemy. When he sees someone who
Speaker 3: hates America, his instinct is be nice to them, give
Speaker 3: them what they want. And let me say something else
Speaker 3: about this meeting in San Francisco. So we're watching Biden
Speaker 3: meeting with She and San Francisco. I gotta say, Ben,
Speaker 3: I am pissed at how they treated this meeting, and
Speaker 3: in particular that they cleaned up the San Francisco streets.
Speaker 3: They cleaned up the homeless people, they cleaned up the criminals,
Speaker 3: they cleaned up the drug users. So a week ago,
Speaker 3: the San Francisco public streets were filled with homeless people,
Speaker 3: They were filled with criminals. They were filled with drug
Speaker 3: users injecting drugs just sitting in broad deadlight. They were
Speaker 3: filled with people defecating in the streets. In fact, there's
Speaker 3: an app in San Francisco called poop Fine to report
Speaker 3: human feces on public streets.
Speaker 1: You literally, by the way, can't make that out. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: It's the bizarre reality we live in. And Democrat politicians
Speaker 3: have been telling the people of San Francisco for years
Speaker 3: there's nothing we can do about it. We can't fix homelessness,
Speaker 3: we can't fix crime, we can't fix drug use. We
Speaker 3: are helpless. Well, you know what, Suddenly the president of
Speaker 3: China shows up in holy crap, They clear all these
Speaker 3: people off the streets. They clean up. They literally clean
Speaker 3: up the shit like that is not hyperbole. They clean
Speaker 3: up the streets. They make them spick and span. They're sparkling.
Speaker 3: And I got to say, let me ask you something. Man.
Speaker 3: Let's assume you're a San Francisco resident, let's assume, Okay,
Speaker 3: you live in San Francisco, so you're a lefty, you're
Speaker 3: a liberal Democrat. But you've been living with this, this crime,
Speaker 3: this homelessness, this drug use. Your kids have been watching
Speaker 3: this filth, and you've been told we can't fix it,
Speaker 3: we can't fix it, we can't fix it. And then
Speaker 3: suddenly the head of the Communist Party of China shows
Speaker 3: up in boom, It's all magically fixed. How would you
Speaker 3: not be pissed off? Why exactly is it that the
Speaker 3: Democrats will do this for she out of China but
Speaker 3: will not do it for the Americans who live in
Speaker 3: San Francisco. What does this say about the broken policies,
Speaker 3: the woke policies, the radical left? How it all is
Speaker 3: a croc They know how to fix these things, they're
Speaker 3: just not willing to and.
Speaker 2: They can fix it the matter days. By the way,
Speaker 2: days they were able to clean up an entire city.
Speaker 2: That's impressive.
Speaker 3: And by the way, there's a pattern. So this is
Speaker 3: not the first time this has happened. When Joe Biden
Speaker 3: came to El Passo for his vaunted trip to the border,
Speaker 3: yeah it'll pass up. Yeah, there were illegal aliens all
Speaker 3: over the streets. It's a crisis. The city is being
Speaker 3: swarmed by illegal immigration. But when Joe Biden came, they
Speaker 3: removed all the illegal immigrants from the street. And in fact,
Speaker 3: the Biden White House said Biden did not see a
Speaker 3: single illegal immigrant. And there's a cynicism to this, which
Speaker 3: is and this is something we've talked about a lot,
Speaker 3: that I've talked about in my new book, Unwoke, which
Speaker 3: which is the cultural Marxist Their policies are wildly unpopular.
Speaker 3: Normal people do not support open borders, don't support abolishing
Speaker 3: the police, they don't support rampant crime. So for the
Speaker 3: cultural Marxists, for the radical extreme in the Democrat Party,
Speaker 3: they focus on in doctrination and political messaging. And so
Speaker 3: when Joe Biden goes to El Paso, it's a photo op.
Speaker 3: It's a photo op to show, hey, everything's fine. When
Speaker 3: Joe Biden and she goes to San Francisco, it's a
Speaker 3: photo op to say hey, everything's fine. And then once
Speaker 3: the TV cameras leave, the people are stuck with the
Speaker 3: disastrous failure of the left wing policies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned Gavin News I'm talking about this cleanup,
Speaker 2: and he had maybe one of dumbest lines that we've heard.
Speaker 2: This is what he said about defending the timing of
Speaker 2: the San Francisco clean up as the governor.
Speaker 1: Listen to this.
Speaker 4: I know folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this
Speaker 4: place because all those fancy leaders.
Speaker 1: Are coming into town.
Speaker 4: That's true, because it's true. But it's also true for
Speaker 4: months and months and months prior to APEC we've been
Speaker 4: having different conversations.
Speaker 2: We've been having different conversations. It's true because it's true. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's true, we're cleaning the plates up for we're coming
Speaker 2: to town.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 3: To be clear, Gavin Newsom used to be mayor of
Speaker 3: San Francisco. This problem he created, He owns this. Now
Speaker 3: he's got dreams of sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue sparkling in
Speaker 3: his eyes. So he's realizing, huh, this is kind of
Speaker 3: a problem. Let's see if we can clean it up.
Speaker 3: So he kind of likes that that pr but understand
Speaker 3: it is all pr that that there's no one, as
Speaker 3: far as I can tell, that's a Democrat politician that
Speaker 3: actually cares about the quality of life of the residents
Speaker 3: of San Francis. That doesn't matter there's a reason that
Speaker 3: people who live in San Francisco are fleeing the city
Speaker 3: because it's unbearable and the absolute insult for them to say, yeah,
Speaker 3: you people who pay taxes here, you're not important enough
Speaker 3: for us to solve these problems. But when the head
Speaker 3: of China comes hot, diggity dam, we can fix it overnight.
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Speaker 2: So it was funny, and this is why I love
Speaker 2: doing this pod because we get to talk about some
Speaker 2: of the things that happened during this pod. While we
Speaker 2: were actually recording. You had to run and make a
Speaker 2: vote and we had to hit pause, which is just
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Speaker 2: the Democrats have called what was it on?
Speaker 3: By the way, So it was ten thirty at night,
Speaker 3: and it was a vote on the Continuing Resolution. So
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Speaker 2: Now it just I love that aspect of it, but
Speaker 2: there's also something else. I was going to say that
Speaker 2: this is the second part of just pulling back the
Speaker 2: curtain a little bit. So you and I obviously spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time together, and this goes back to
Speaker 2: the Gavin News some point you were just making and
Speaker 2: I'm laughing because I'm doing five News Channel, just a
Speaker 2: normal interview that I do. I don't I didn't see
Speaker 2: your schedule and they tell me, they said, hey, you
Speaker 2: may be a minut or too late.
Speaker 1: We have another guest on.
Speaker 2: He's going to be on, and I look up and
Speaker 2: it's you, which was hilarious because I was waiting to
Speaker 2: talk about this newsome issue in cleaning up to San Francisco,
Speaker 2: which was just really a funny moment because everybody in
Speaker 2: the control room was laughing. They're like, all right, it's verdict,
Speaker 2: and then it's verdict, but they're not together, which was
Speaker 2: pretty funny.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that I said on there.
Speaker 3: And by the way, Ben, you're being nice because what
Speaker 3: you said that the Fox producer told you is the
Speaker 3: guest in front of you you may be late because
Speaker 3: the guests in front of you tends to go long.
Speaker 3: And I don't know that they said it, but what
Speaker 3: they implied is he's kind of a blow hard and
Speaker 3: he likes to have or.
Speaker 1: He likes to talk a lot.
Speaker 2: And yeah, like, hey, the guests we have on before you,
Speaker 2: sometimes he goes a little long, so you might be
Speaker 2: about five minutes late. And then I look up on
Speaker 2: the screen and I'm like, I'm always waiting on this guy.
Speaker 2: It was a hilarious moment and everybody was laughing.
Speaker 3: Look, look, look, Benjamin. Senators are known for our brevity.
Speaker 3: We're tight, we're pithy, we limit We're like Chinese fortune cookies.
Speaker 3: We keep it all within one very short sentence.
Speaker 2: I love it, I love it, but it was I
Speaker 2: took a picture of the screen. If you guys want
Speaker 2: to look, it's on my Instagram and I'm pointing at
Speaker 2: me in the corner because they say up next, it's
Speaker 2: my picture in the bottom right, and then you're talking
Speaker 2: there and it was just I was like, this is
Speaker 2: what I want to frame in the office.
Speaker 3: But by the way, I want I want our Verdict
Speaker 3: listeners to know. So men saw that, and he texts
Speaker 3: me and says, I bet I can talk about the
Speaker 3: podcast more than you do. Now I don't see this
Speaker 3: until I'm done with the media hit, and is it
Speaker 3: so happened on the media hit. I was talking about
Speaker 3: my new book on Woke, so I didn't mention the podcast.
Speaker 3: I talked about podcast a lot, but I mentioned it
Speaker 3: zero times. So when I see it, see a text
Speaker 3: he's on and I finished, I'm like, okay, you win.
Speaker 3: I'm at zero so so falling down you're going to
Speaker 3: beat my Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the best part was it was I knew that
Speaker 2: I was gonna win that one because I had one
Speaker 2: of the longest Verdict plugs ever.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what's interesting, send her cruise.
Speaker 1: He was just on a moment ago.
Speaker 2: We were chatting about this on our podcast Verdict would
Speaker 2: take cruise and even the host Elizabeth, she's so sweet.
Speaker 2: She's grinning from ear to ear because she gets it.
Speaker 2: She understands how funny it is. And it was just
Speaker 2: one of those great moments. But one of the things
Speaker 2: that we were talking about on there, I was on
Speaker 2: talking about this exclusive issue about cleaning up San Francisco,
Speaker 2: and I said.
Speaker 3: And I got to say, Ben, this pisses me off.
Speaker 3: And let me ask you. I don't mean to derail you,
Speaker 3: but do you think your typical lefty voter in San
Speaker 3: Francisco has pissed off about this?
Speaker 2: I would assume probably not normally, but they may have
Speaker 2: hit their breaking point, like are you kidding me? We've
Speaker 2: been living with this, and they've been talking about turning
Speaker 2: tourism drastically. We saw a man that was cleaning off
Speaker 2: his front steps, remember, and they turned him in the
Speaker 2: worst person in the world because he sprayed with water
Speaker 2: or homeless people they're outside defecating in front of a store,
Speaker 2: and it was costing him his business. And so I
Speaker 2: do think there's a moment where people have had enough,
Speaker 2: and I think this hypocrisy may resonate with some of
Speaker 2: the people in San Francisco enough to change leadership, Let's
Speaker 2: be honest.
Speaker 1: Probably not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were saying, sorry, I just know. I just so.
Speaker 3: I was literally at dinner with a number of folks
Speaker 3: in DC and we were debating this question, and one
Speaker 3: guy who was having dinner with said, well, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe the lefties are saying, well, gosh, what happened to
Speaker 3: the homeless people? Where are they now? Are they okay?
Speaker 3: Are they safe? We need to take care of them more.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're worried about that. And I'm like, look, I
Speaker 3: try to understand the perspective of people who disagree with me,
Speaker 3: but I have to confess I'm not the best person
Speaker 3: on earth to really get in the mind of a
Speaker 3: San Francisco left wing That's just I have it hard.
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to really grasp how they view
Speaker 3: this and think it's okay. And so I don't know
Speaker 3: if when they see it cleaned up they react like,
Speaker 3: holy crap, why didn't you do this a year ago?
Speaker 3: If you could do this, why did you allow this
Speaker 3: to continue? Or if they just say, well, got I
Speaker 3: mean one of the things I responded, I said, Look,
Speaker 3: today's Democrat Party is so command and control they follow
Speaker 3: orders that maybe the folks there are like, well, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: this is okay. This made sense for this meeting, But
Speaker 3: generally speaking, we can't fix it, and this meeting was important.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're willing to just be told
Speaker 3: that by their political overlords.
Speaker 2: Well, and the point that I made, I said, for
Speaker 2: lefties who always love to give themselves these massive hugs
Speaker 2: of we are the people of compassion and love and understanding.
Speaker 2: Where's the compassion and the love and the outrage from
Speaker 2: the left are the fact that you just took home
Speaker 2: with people and took all their belongings and threw them
Speaker 2: in the trash and told them find somewhere else to
Speaker 2: be homeless. Where is the compassion for those homeless people
Speaker 2: just because of a communist leader that, by the way,
Speaker 2: is running concentration camps and slave labor and child labor.
Speaker 2: You want to clean up a city, so you then
Speaker 2: treat these homeless people in such an inhumane way because
Speaker 2: they're in your way. Where is the where's the outrage
Speaker 2: from the compassionate left? Because I have not seen that
Speaker 2: so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen any of that at all. And
Speaker 3: part of it is they don't criticize their own I
Speaker 3: mean they have message discipline. Whatever the message is of
Speaker 3: the day, they're all on board with the same thing.
Speaker 2: Last question on this I want to ask you, and
Speaker 2: it deals with the investigation of the Bidens.
Speaker 1: You look at the money.
Speaker 2: We're getting more information about these checks that are going
Speaker 2: to the president. And you you see this present bow
Speaker 2: down as you describe it, kissing the a double ass
Speaker 2: of this of this Chinese communist leader.
Speaker 3: But you look at the house. I'm glad you spelled
Speaker 3: that for our listeners. They know what it was. You know,
Speaker 3: we have a lot of elementary school children that listen
Speaker 3: to this.
Speaker 2: Okay, just for you, Senator, just because you had to
Speaker 2: go vote in the midil the show kissing his ass,
Speaker 2: there we go.
Speaker 1: You got the record there, that's all right.
Speaker 3: I like that. I'm a negative influence on you. Ben.
Speaker 2: I'm a team player here, a team player. But you
Speaker 2: look at this, these checks. Joe Biden resid a forty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars check and launder Chinese money from the account
Speaker 2: of his brother James Biden, his sister in law Sarah Biden,
Speaker 2: in the form of a personal check. We know that
Speaker 2: because the check number sixty one forty two. We have
Speaker 2: a copy of it. It was made on September third,
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Of course it said loan reimbursement. That's not
Speaker 2: the first check, by the way, that's the second check
Speaker 2: that has come in. Hunter Biden also wired another one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars the Line Hall Group, a
Speaker 2: company owned by President By's brother James and Cinstine law
Speaker 2: Sarah on August of twenty eighth of seventeen.
Speaker 1: And then guess what happens.
Speaker 2: Sarah Biden with drew fifty thousand in cash from the
Speaker 2: Lion Hall Group and later the same day she deposited
Speaker 2: it into her and James Biden, James Biden's personal Jake account,
Speaker 2: and then they write the check to Joe Biden for
Speaker 2: the quote loan repayment that I mean, we're at over
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars now. And we also know that
Speaker 2: the money trail began in July of twenty seventeen when
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden demanded payment from his Chinese Communist Party. You know, friend,
Speaker 2: this associate who's linked there. On July thirtieth, Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2: Let's just read that famous text right that WhatsApp text,
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here with my father and we would like
Speaker 2: to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.
Speaker 2: Tell the director that I would like to resolve this
Speaker 2: now before it gets out of hand, and now means
Speaker 2: tonight and zee. If I get a call or a
Speaker 2: text from anyone involved in this other than you, Jang
Speaker 2: or the chairman, I will make certain that between the
Speaker 2: man sitting next to me and every person knows and
Speaker 2: my ability forever hold of grudge, that you will regret
Speaker 2: not following my direction. I'm sitting here waiting for the
Speaker 2: call with my father, and what happened after that? Hundreds
Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars came into their account within days,
Speaker 2: and the FBI stopped the investigation to see if Joe
Speaker 2: Biden was, in fact, through GPS, was sitting next to
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden or in the same place on this date.
Speaker 2: You put that together and you see what's happening now
Speaker 2: with China and America. I think James Comber's onto something here,
Speaker 2: and it seems like there's a lot more that's about
Speaker 2: to come out on this.
Speaker 3: Well, the evidence is getting worse and worse. We now
Speaker 3: know that at least two hundred and forty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: went straight to Joe Biden. Remember the Democrats were saying
Speaker 3: over and over again, no direct evidence of Joe Biden's involvement.
Speaker 3: This is all Hunter's corrupt. But Joe is innocent. Well,
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty grand and he labels all these
Speaker 3: checks loan repayment. There's no evidence as to what the
Speaker 3: loans were. Was there was there alone That is on
Speaker 3: its face, highly suspicious. We also know now that the
Speaker 3: House that James Comer, the subpoenas have escalated. They're now
Speaker 3: subpoenaing Hunter Biden. They're subpoenaing James Biden. They're subpoenaing the
Speaker 3: inner circle of business associates around Joe Biden, among other things.
Speaker 3: They also issued a subpoena to former White House counsel
Speaker 3: Dana Remus to appear for a deposition concerning Biden's mishandling
Speaker 3: of classified documents. This is ratcheting up, by the way. Also,
Speaker 3: Special Counsel David Weiss admitted that he wasn't granted special
Speaker 3: attorney authority in the Hunter Biden investigation, and even though
Speaker 3: he asked for it. But then he said, well, he
Speaker 3: didn't interpret that decision as a quote denial in any way,
Speaker 3: shape or form, which is utterly incoherent. You ask for
Speaker 3: can I have special attorneys authority? You're told no, and
Speaker 3: then he says, well, but that wasn't a denial, what
Speaker 3: else is it? And so I have to say, I
Speaker 3: think the investigation is getting more and more serious and
Speaker 3: the evidence is getting worse and worse for Joe and
Speaker 3: for Hunter. What a show tonight, Senator. You can't make
Speaker 3: it up. We do half a show. Go vote, come
Speaker 3: right back. We got it done, and it's always a
Speaker 3: pleasure to chat with you.
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Speaker 3: By the way, Ben, let me ask you a question. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 3: Nor do I I have no idea, just as you
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Speaker 3: but I don't use Sirih. But I'm just just sort
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Speaker 1: You should ask them.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you they'll give you an answer, right, I
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Speaker 1: I love it on those in between days.
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Speaker 2: It's always it's fun. This is a fun show tonight,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Senter. Get some sleep. I mean, that's sincerely.
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