1 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: The trade market is going to be hot this offseason. 2 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about five players that we think 3 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the Mets must trade for this offseason. Guys that we 4 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: think are available, impact players, Guys that will make this 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: team better. Free agency market is great. We know there's 6 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: some big names out there, but let's talk about the 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: guys that the Mets can go out and trade for. 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: One of the advantages of having as much money as 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: the Mets, you can trade for bigger contracts that teams 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: don't want to pay anymore. That's exactly what we're looking at. James, 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: who do you want to start off with here at 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: number one? 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: I think number one is going to be probably the 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: most compelling trade asset on the market. He was one 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: of the most compelling trade that's in the market last deadline. 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: He stayed put, but I think he's probably pretty available 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: right now. And as Garrett Crochet from the White Sox' 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: rether in saningly unique ass he's twenty five years old. 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: He has fewer than like two hundred and fifty three 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: hundred innings in his major league career. Last year he 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: was a superstar ace for the first half. They didn't 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: trade him kind of just put him on ice in 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: the second half because it was an innings jump that 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: we had really not seen them by an era, And 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: for some reason they called him up when he was 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: so young because they thought they were good. Then he 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: blew out his arm and now he only has two 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: years of team control left, and the White Sox are 29 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: one of the most pitiful organizations in this in sports history, 30 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: So it makes lots of sense than to trade him. 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: But it's really hard to figure out what the trade 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: package for him would look like, just because again all 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: those things that just said, hard to put a hard 34 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: value on him because he's so damn good but also 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: so strange, obscure. 36 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the guys that we were looking at in terms 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: of trade value was funny enough, Luis Castillo, Chris Sale. 38 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: We even looked at David Price. I know he didn't 39 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: have as much. 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: Johan Santana. 41 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: Johan Santana's another one. Chris Sale to me was the 42 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: one that stuck out the most. But Chris Sale was 43 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: also a pitcher that was a little bit more proven. 44 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: He had a bunch of innings under his arm when 45 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: he got traded to the Red Sox. Many good years, yeah, 46 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: many good years. So not as much or way more 47 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: track record than Garaic Crochet currently has. He was traded 48 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: for the number seven prospect in baseball at the time 49 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: in Juan Mancata, another top one hundred prospect in Michael Kopek. 50 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: It was a major, major trade. They gave up huge assets, 51 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: some of the best prospects in baseball. You look at 52 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: the Johan Santana trade, grant that it happened almost twenty 53 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: years ago, which feels really insane. That doesn't feel good 54 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: to say. At the time, Carlos Gomez was considered a 55 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: top prospect. We know that never ended up panning out, 56 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: And same thing with Philip Humber. I think he was 57 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: one of the Mets top prospects, but it is really 58 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: hard to find a comp here. And you're also trading 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: with the White Talks, who have gotten smarter but are 60 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: still one a little bit far behind right now in 61 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: terms of just organizational smartness I intelligence I think is 62 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: a better word to use. 63 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, smartness sover intelligence. That was a good way to 64 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 2: show your own smartness. But the also big thing about 65 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: Crochet is that he has two full years of team control, 66 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: which is why he was such a big asset this 67 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: past trade deadline, because he could have gone to a 68 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: team and given them three different appearances in playoff runs 69 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: like that was the key. Same with Juan Solo two 70 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: years ago with the Padres. They're like, wow, so they 71 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: could play in the playoffs for us three times, Like 72 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: that's why you make that deal at that moment. But 73 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: that's the thing with Crochet. It's hard to find any 74 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: comparisons for starting pitchers that are even close to being 75 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: this good that ever have two years to control on them, 76 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: which is why I think a package would kind of 77 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: fall what. 78 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: And it's awkward too because he's really only had one 79 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: season of being a starter at the major league level 80 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: and it was really really yeah, of one hundred and 81 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: forty six innings and they were disgusting. He had a 82 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: whip basically at one His fit was two point sixty nine. 83 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: In the one hundred and forty six innings. He struck 84 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: out two hundred and nine batters, which were some of 85 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: the highest numbers in Major League Baseball despite not having 86 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: that many innings. The talent is out of control with 87 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Garrett Crochet, there is no doubt there, but the lack 88 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: of track record and the injury history and the contract 89 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: that he has is so weird, and. 90 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: The shape of the season is weird too. I mentioned 91 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: it before, but once they decide they were going to 92 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: trade him, they didn't trade him. He didn't give length 93 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: the rest of the year. He didn't pitch more than 94 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: five innings after July first in any start. So again, 95 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: like they get, they kept him going. So he kept 96 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: on his routine and he was very statfastic. That's what 97 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: he wanted to do. He didn't want to miss a 98 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: long period of time. He didn't want to come out 99 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: of the bullpens, like, let me stay in the routine. 100 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: I'll just pitch last to keep the arm attack. But 101 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: just that jump from this year throwing one hundred and 102 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: forty six innings to the year before only throwing twelve 103 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: like that is pretty significant. I think he also threw 104 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: through about twelve more minor league innings too that year, 105 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: so we're from twenty five innings to one hundred and 106 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: forty six in one year. I don't know if that's 107 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: particularly unsafe. It doesn't seem like the best thing, but 108 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: all seems like it did work out okay. And like 109 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: terror Schooball did something like that two years ago. And 110 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: this year he did again won the cy Young was 111 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: the best pitcher on Earth. But like just the one 112 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: thing I can't deny with Crochet is the stuff is 113 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: just it's completely insane, Like there's not many lefties who 114 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: throw ninety seven miles an hour. His color's ridiculous, his 115 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: slider's ridiculous. His change up was coming along last year 116 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: like this the two seam, where he started throwing more 117 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: towards the end of the year. It also looked really 118 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: really well in the small samples he threw it in. 119 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: This looks like a guy who can just be one 120 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: of the best pitcher in baseball for the next few 121 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: years and be the number one starting pitcher on this 122 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: Mets team instantly. So my question for you, what do 123 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: you want to trade for him? 124 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: Well, that was what I was gonna bring up, is 125 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to give up a lot, 126 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: not just because of who he is, but but the 127 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: Mets don't have that clear top prospect in baseball right now, 128 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: like Sprote is our highest ranked on according to Pipeline, 129 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: and I think also Baseball America he's around the forty 130 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: to fifty range. Jet Williams is around the top fifty range. 131 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Those are the two best prospects. Surely they're both gonna 132 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: be included in a Garrett Crochet trade, along with maybe 133 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: some MLB ready to play, maybe a Ronnie Maurisio, maybe 134 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: a Drew Gilbert type. I don't know. You're gonna have 135 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: to give up a lot to get Crochet, and that 136 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: is the one thing I think could scare people. But 137 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: also it's kind of hard to find a guy like 138 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: Garret Crochet available. 139 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost think the move would be you have 140 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: to give one or two of the major league ready 141 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: position players, like a jet A Gilbert and Mauricio. I 142 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: don't know if they would want Brett Batty because they 143 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: just basically did the Brett Baity thing with Miguel Vargus. 144 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: They just have to give mcgalv arks a shot at 145 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: their base as his best position rather than like, try 146 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: again immediately Brett Bathy. But I think they would want 147 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: volume pitching. I think that's what they would want to 148 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: bring in because they last year they made the trade 149 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: for Dylan ce so we got Drew Thorpe and iiro Iriarte, 150 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: who both look like pitchers that probably gonna under the 151 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: major league team this year. Thorp pats him ups and downs. 152 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: He came up not the biggest Thorpe guy. But it 153 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: seems to me like you would probably have to just 154 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: smatter them with Sproute blade Tom McLean, like you would 155 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: probably have to give like a volume thing, which if 156 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: you look at those two trades we talked about before, 157 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: which are Sale in Luis Castillo, the Sale trade was 158 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: really an enigma because those are two of the top 159 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: ten prospects in baseball at the time. 160 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: What how did we miss the Dylan C's trade as 161 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: the comp? 162 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the Dylan Cea trade would have been 163 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: a good comp. But ce Ceases a different comp because 164 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: Ceas was in the league long time and he arguably 165 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: never had the high that Garrek Crochet had last year. Right, 166 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: you could probably say that fairly. 167 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: I mean he he had a two to two ERA 168 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: and one hundred and eighty four innings in twenty two, 169 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: like he was discussed, I get twenty twenty two, he 170 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: finished second the Cy Young voting. 171 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, true, and anybody was coming off a bit of 172 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: a down year. I guess He's kind of was probably 173 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: more similar comp. But because with the extra year team control. 174 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: Which makes me feel better that he's maybe more realistic 175 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: to get because I think you can match that cease 176 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: trade back. 177 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: And that's what they wanted. I think that's why I 178 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: think it's gonna come back to pitch it. I think 179 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: you give them one of those major league ish ready 180 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: hitting assets and then you kind of play pitching off that. 181 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: So maybe you can get away with if you give 182 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: him sprote. You don't have to give them jet. You 183 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: give him sprote. Gilbert Tidwell, I would do that in 184 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: a second. I think that's probably light. That's probably light. 185 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: You probably have to do those two maybe in tongue 186 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: or McLean someone a little more upside than Tidwell, but. 187 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: Maybe do that in a heartbeat. 188 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: Maybe you have to do more of though, because these 189 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: prospects probably aren't that as good as with other teams 190 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: could offer prospect wise, you know, like that's where that's 191 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: where the play of this kind of comes in. But 192 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: like maybe you have to give up for these prospects. 193 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: Like when the Reds trade for traded Castillo, they got 194 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: they got back noelvi Marte, edwind Arroyo and Levi Stout 195 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: and there's one more guy in there, but all kind 196 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: of wound up being nothing kind of pieces. 197 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: Connor Phillips was part of them as well. 198 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: I think that was one of the different ones. 199 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Okay, well, regardless, they gave up a decent amount, Yeah, 200 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: but a decent amount, but it wasn't anything that blew 201 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: you away. 202 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: For guy like Luis Castillo who was on top of 203 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: his game. Another full year of control, basically the opportunity 204 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: to give you two playoff runs, which is will Corchet's 205 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: gonna be. 206 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: Able to give. Also, the next player we're going to 207 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: talk about here too, Luis Castillo of the Seattle Maritors, 208 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: could segue there. James Way to bring him up at 209 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: the right time. Louis Castillo, We've mentioned on a couple 210 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: of different podcast episodes of videos the Mariners have a 211 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: plethora of pitching, like literally more than anybody in the 212 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: entire world. They just have unlimited arms. All of them 213 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: are really good. Louis Castillo is expensive, and that money 214 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: that they could save on moving the Louis Castile contract 215 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: could really help them out on the offensive side, which 216 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: they are dreadful at. 217 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that expensive expensive he's due unloading the contract 218 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: right now. Seattle, Seattle more Seattle. Expensive is kind of 219 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: the fact that they can move some mass sets around, 220 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: Like if you can get rid of Castillo and we 221 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: can give you again, like a major league ready baseball player, 222 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: like their team, who's at their base for them right now? 223 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Josh Rojas. 224 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: That's so they're a team who Brett Baty has some 225 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: real value for. And then you do Brett Baity plus 226 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: another close major league ready kind of guy, and it's like, 227 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: all right, we're trading major league players back and forth. 228 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense, and we're taking a 229 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: bunch of money off your books. That to me is 230 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: where the value of that trade to be from Seattle. 231 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: And also the fact that Castillo is just a little 232 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: bit older now he is. Yeah, like Louis Castillo is 233 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: going to be turning how was he gonna be right now? 234 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: He's gonna be turning thirty two years old. He's thrown 235 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: seven hundred innings since a twenty twenty one season, two 236 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: years in a row. His velo's gone down from ninety 237 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: seven to ninety six, and that last year ninety six 238 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: and ninety five. There's there's it's not red flags with 239 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: Louis Castillo would call them yellow flags, and I think 240 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 2: that's something that if you're a team like the Mariners, 241 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: who probably still is a top five rotation league with 242 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: or without Louis Castillo, it makes some sense to trade him, 243 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: especially because he's due twenty four million each of the 244 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: next three years, so that becomes a three year contract 245 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: for seventy two million dollars. I would love to sign 246 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: that for Luis Castillo if he was on the market 247 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: right now, and that includes a vesting option for twenty eight, 248 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: which he needs to do one ndred seven hundred day 249 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: the innings and twenty seven for that option to vest. 250 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: And he barely gets out every year as it is 251 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: right now, so basically you can't really assume that contract. 252 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: I think he's an interesting one, but he's definitely not 253 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: as frontline, front line of a pitcher as Crochet, but 254 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: you're giving up significantly less to get him. 255 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: Yes, Louis Castio I don't think is necessarily a traditional 256 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: ace anymore like we thought he was maybe a couple 257 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: of years ago. But he would be a great guy 258 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: to be at the top of the road with code. 259 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: I Sanga would love to have Luis Casillo again in 260 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: another hitter friendly ballpark. I no Seattle is hit a 261 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: pitcher friendly ballpark. That's why I meant to say Cincinnati 262 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: was a hitter friendly ballpark. City Field, we know, does 263 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: some really good stuff for pictures as well. 264 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: And it was cool because when he went from Cincinnati 265 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: to Seattle, Seattle kind of reworked his whole repertoire for 266 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: what they thought would work better in Seattle, paecifically, because 267 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: when he was in Cincinnati, he was big on the 268 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: sinker sinker, sinker, sinker, A change up, change up, change up, 269 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: keep the ball in the ground as much as possible. 270 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: He was pushing fifty five, almost sixty percent grab ball 271 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: rates when he was at his best. Coming to Seattle, 272 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: he started throwing significantly more foresting fastballs, throwing them more 273 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 2: up in the zone, willing to get fly balls because 274 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: a flyball in Cincinnati is way more valuable in a 275 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: flyball in Seattle, so you're willing to get them there. 276 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: Cityfield will play the same, not as one hundred percent 277 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: pitture friendly, but still quite pittuer friendly. But you saw 278 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: last year when the velocity went down with that system 279 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: he was running where it was just high fastballs, that 280 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: the wift rates went down across all of his pitches. 281 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: When that fastball wasn't getting strike one as much, wasn't 282 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: getting swings and missus as much, it was easy for 283 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: hit us to adjust in at bats to go from 284 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: the fastball to the breaking stuff. With that, his slider 285 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: kind of flattened out too, stuff plus hated last year 286 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: wasn't as wasn't as sweet. We have a pitch, and 287 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: his change up has had a few inches of run 288 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: on it, which I think Castillo was always his best 289 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: when that change up was a little bit more straight 290 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: up and down and he was able to throw it 291 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: evenly against hitters on both sides of plates. So there 292 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: probably is some tinkering. This probably just is some aging. 293 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: He also was a full no trade clause. But I 294 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: think Gat, like Luis Castilla, would would revel in the 295 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: opportunity to come to New York. I think he would 296 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: enjoy that. I remember seeing him when we worked for 297 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: the team on the field that he was just he 298 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 2: was dapping everybody up. I think he just I think 299 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: he just seems like a gregarious kind of New York 300 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: type of guy, but not as high of a heighter 301 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna get with Crochet, where you're getting like a 302 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: lockdown ace on day one. But you're gonna trade significantly 303 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: less to acquire Louis Castillo in exchange of taking that 304 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: money back. 305 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: Yes, because the money the Mariners, that's that's the value 306 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: that the Mariners are getting rid of. They're going, we 307 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: got rid of all this money that we can now 308 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: spend on other things. And bringing up Louis Castillo as well. 309 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: That full note trade clause is just totally so that 310 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: he can have control. That's a player thing. It's I 311 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: don't want you, You're probably gonna it almost seems like 312 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: he's like, you're probably gonna eventually want to trade me 313 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: because there's so much money and near the Mariners, I 314 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: at least get to decide where I go. You're not 315 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: going to trade me to the Kansas City Royals or 316 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: something like that. 317 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: No, not the cancer. The Roles probably would make that 318 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: trade because this but even like that's a good thing 319 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: to bring up kansasaity. The Royles. We saw today all 320 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: the qualifying all the qualifying offset given out, and they're 321 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: given out the pictures who a lot of people didn't 322 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: expect to get them. Nick Poveda, Nick Martinez. The Royals 323 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: are giving Michael Waka three at seventeen million per if 324 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: you could get Luis Castilla at three to twenty four 325 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: million per that that's in terms of where the market 326 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: is right now for pitching, which gives the Mariners some leverage. 327 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: Of course, it helps a lot. And again you probably 328 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: get Castillo for Brett Baty and someone else quite good 329 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: trying a place who could be in my mind right now, 330 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: but I guess it would just depend on them if 331 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 2: they want to picture or hither. I think you probably 332 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: avoid the top top prospects, but it would probably be 333 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: like Baby and Nolan MacLean, get them, get them a 334 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: picture was a wicked piece of marble, and if third 335 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: baseman could play right now. 336 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: I think the Mariners would love to get their hands 337 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: on Nolan MacLean and see what he could do out 338 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: there too. 339 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have a piece of marble, piece of clays. 340 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: What I meant, they're horrible, But I just think I 341 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: think that, yeah, the exition, cause wouldn't be crazy there. 342 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: I think he would be a really realistic and really 343 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: solid option for the Mets. 344 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tea this one up to you. We got 345 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: we gotta hitter coming up next. We need to talk 346 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: about this. This is your your little baby that you've 347 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: been posting all over the place, tell us about Nolan Ernado. 348 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: I think a lot of you guys quit al a 349 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: little too soon. I don't know, there's just something. This 350 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: isn't as much of a number of thing. This isn't 351 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: as much of a thing I can point to like 352 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: X y Z blah blah blah with the pitching. It's 353 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: just in that last year, I said, a couple of 354 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: episodes ago, the whole Cardinals team fell apart. They never 355 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: really got out of the gate in April, and by 356 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: the time June came around, they were a complete clusterfucking 357 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: absolute disaster and never got back. And Nolan or Not 358 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: though Paul Golschman were two of the guys who really 359 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: fell down sucked with that ship, and for both of them, 360 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: Golshman was really more of a power thing. R and 361 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: I has never really had the peak power numbers. He's 362 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: never been a great barrel guy. He's never been a 363 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: great eggs of velocity guy. That's why people always gave 364 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: him like the chorus merchant kind of tag. It always 365 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: seemed like he was kind of benefiting from external factors. 366 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: But then the first couple of years Saint Louis, he 367 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 2: was still in the lead hitts the top of the 368 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: line definitely wasn't Colorado Arna though also he was in 369 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: the thirties. Now as year went on, pitch selections really 370 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: fell apart for Arnado. He was letting more pitches go 371 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: in the heart of the zone. He wasn't being as 372 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: selective of pitches in the shadow. He wasn't really able 373 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: to find his pitch. When you're a guy the Gardanado, 374 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: who I call him having selective power, I think oddly 375 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: the power for Nolan Arnado was similar to that of 376 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: Alex Bregman, where it's just about being able to like 377 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: scoop that baseball, pull that flat ball and get it 378 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: to that spot. City Field is gonna have a much 379 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: kinder left field than than Bush Stadium is for Nolan Arnado, 380 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: And that all comes back to mental for me, with 381 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: that pitch selection, you squeezing the bat too tired, You're 382 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: in a veteran team, things are not working out well. 383 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: You really see yourself slipping in the standing. You feel 384 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: like you have to do more because you're one of 385 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: the leaders. You're making a ton of money. I remember 386 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: you had a walk off. I think it was against 387 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: the Pirates in like August or July. They had a 388 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: couple of walk offs against the Pirates weirdly in July, 389 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: so shout out the Cardinals helping me win. That Pirate's 390 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: bed over you. But you could see how happy he 391 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: was just to hit. It was a walk off Grand 392 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: Slam and he murdered the baseball and like the whole 393 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: team obdom, it was just like you could feel like 394 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: an exalting offer, kind of like the Viento's walk home 395 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: run when he first came up to the team where 396 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: they see felt like it was special because it was 397 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: a walk up, but it was a little bit extra 398 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: special because if Nolan Arnado doing in that moment, it 399 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: feels very mental to me. Right now, this is a 400 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: guy who has his superstar pedigree for a career on 401 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: the line. There is a guy who could if you 402 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: put together two more elite years with another Gold Glove 403 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: and possibly hoist the World Series Trophy. Now's in a 404 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: different category of like all time baseball guys cuts himself 405 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: into a Hall of Fame conversation, where right now he's 406 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: someone who could just be forgotten in the next decade. 407 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: There's a lot in the line for a guy who 408 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: I know is willing to work hard and know is 409 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: going to be just a dog in the clubhouse now 410 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: on the field, still plays the league defense. It seems 411 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: like a good match to me. 412 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Mets fans hate Nolan Aeronado, like it's so funny. Where 413 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: if he has when he was on Colorado, You're like, 414 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, Nolan Aeronado next David Right at the 415 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: third base for the Mets. Now that he's been a 416 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: Cardinal for the last few years, I feel like Mets 417 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: fans hate him. The thing with Nolan Eronado too, Cardinals 418 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: are looking to sell. They don't want to spend all 419 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: this money. He has a lot of money on the books. 420 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: He would probably be free. We probably would give up 421 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: almost nothing to if we took Nolan Aeronauda's full contract 422 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: and his full contract. Right now, I'm gonna say it 423 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: out loud, and you're gonna be like, it's not the worst. 424 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: It could become the Robinson Cano pumpkin where you're like, 425 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: oh shit, why did we ever take this? What were 426 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: we thinking? But if you give up nothing, part of 427 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: the Robinson Cano problems. We thought we gave up a 428 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: generational player and Jared Kellnick that ended up not being 429 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: the case. But for Nolan Aeronado, He's do thirty two 430 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: million in twenty twenty five, twenty seven million in twenty 431 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: twenty six, but five million in both of those years 432 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: are covered by the Colorado Rockies, so it goes from 433 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty two. That's forty nine million the 434 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: next two years, and then his third and final year 435 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: of his contract is fifteen million, which is really cheap. 436 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: Three years, sixty four million dollars for Nolan Aeronado is 437 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: what the Mets would be on the hook for if 438 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: they took the entire thing from the Saint Louis Cardinals. 439 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: It is hard to find a guy who is gonna 440 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: be playing Gold Glove elite defense at third base, long 441 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: an elite shortstop which would be amazing defense back there, 442 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: and a guy who, like you said, as weird as 443 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: it seems like he has slowed down a ton. There 444 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: are concerns with his play. It was thirty four, Yeah, 445 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: it was not good last year. It was not good 446 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: the year before. He hits sixteen home runs. That is concerning, 447 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: But for a team like the Mets, who has the 448 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: opportunity and this money. I think it's worth a shot 449 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: at least or at least exploring the idea. 450 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: And it all depends, of course, how the rest of 451 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: fergency rattles down for the Mets. Yes, because you might 452 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: not want to put twenty million back on the books. 453 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: This only happens if you don't have Pete Alonzo, because 454 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: then Mark Viento's goes to first base and then you 455 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: need a third baseman. And Nolan Ernado is better than 456 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: what Brett Bady and Ronnie Marisio are probably gonna give 457 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: you right now. 458 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: At least a little bit more sure, at least the 459 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: situation where you don't have to rely on them to 460 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: be the other day guy. Yeah, it's much higher floor 461 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 2: because you want to go into next season expecting to 462 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: content for a championship. That's where this Mets team is, organizations, 463 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: franchise is right now, and I just think are neither 464 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: gets you closer. Again, this is not without risk. He 465 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: also was what three years younger than Cano at the 466 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: time of that deal, four years younger than Cano. Cano 467 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: was also having better years in his mid thirties because 468 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: he was on steroids. And Arno has had the last 469 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: few years. But to me, there there's a tiny even 470 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: if it's a dead fish bump, even if we get 471 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: one master year, one more moster you have arm you're 472 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: worth it. Yeah, there's something here to me. I just 473 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: I can't believe it's I can't believe it's that over 474 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: he right now. 475 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: No, I'm with you. I'd be interested in Aeronado at 476 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: least to consider bringing him into third base on the team. 477 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: But again that's if you don'tet Pete Alonzo, and there's 478 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: other things that have to happen. Fourth guy a little 479 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: less interesting. But we're gonna go to the bullpen because 480 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: of course it's messed up exist. I mean, people like 481 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: to hear bats and starting pictures. They don't get excited 482 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: about the guy who might be our eighth inning dude. 483 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: And Devin Williams because the Brewers declined his option, which 484 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: means he's going to arbitration for the final year of 485 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: his contracts going it looks ugly. That's just a signal of, hey, 486 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: we want to trade this dude. He has off the 487 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: field issues. He broke his hand apparently goes out like 488 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: crazy like he likes to have a good time, it seems, 489 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: and maybe not one hundred percent focused on baseball. Bringing 490 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: him to New York is a little bit scary hearing that, 491 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: because Milwaukee can't be nearly as fun as New York 492 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: City is. I've never been to Milwaukee, but I've been here. 493 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: It's a great city, that's concerning. But on the field, 494 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: tough to find a better reliever in Major League Baseball. 495 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: Definitely, And the Bruises again want to get out from 496 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: under him because he's turning thirty this year. He's going 497 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: to be a free agent. Next year. He's gonna get 498 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: a little bit of a bump ump bump and pay 499 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: this year's thirty year of arbitration. I think he might 500 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: be his fourth year oroportration. He could have been a 501 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: Super two guy if I remember correctly. But he's gonna 502 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: make anywhere between like eight and ten million dollars depending 503 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: how that works out. Too early to tell. I don't 504 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: have a good arbitration calculat in front of me. But 505 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 2: he's still in the lead pitcher. He still is, and 506 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: the Brewers know from within that they can always make 507 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: the next great relief pictures, so they don't really give 508 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: a shit. They really truly don't care about guy Devin Williams. 509 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't think you can get him for nothing, like 510 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: we're talking about some of these other guys. But I 511 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: think you can trade blade tedwell, okay, may get Debbie Williams. 512 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: Close pitcher, Yeah, major league adjacent pitcher who looks like 513 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: a back rotation guy without ace upside, who could probably 514 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: finag a little bit like he to me, he reminds 515 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: me of some of these other pictures that the Brewers 516 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: have gotten the last few years, where we can make it. 517 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: We could make a little repertoire out of you, out 518 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: of this guy. And I think that's just to them, 519 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: they're like wow, Like it's honestly really similar to Robert 520 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 2: Gosser for Josh Hail got it the exact same thing 521 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: right there. I think Goser evens a little bit more 522 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: exciting than Blaze as a gasser. 523 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: I'll bet whatever, say it doesn't matter whatever. 524 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert guy, he came from the Padres to the 525 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: Brewers and Josh Hayer trade two years ago, three years 526 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: ago now. But it's similar where they're like, all right, 527 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: it's one year of a reliever or six years of 528 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: a pitcher to them, that's just an easy and access 529 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 2: to them. And we understand that David Stearns willing to 530 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: make trades of the Brewers, made the Adrian Howser Tyrone 531 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: Chalder trade last year. It's quick and painless and very easy. 532 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: I think that the Mets are going to need to 533 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: get creative to add to this bullpen, and they probably 534 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: do want to get one more like monster, dominant, trustworthy guy, 535 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 2: but not pay up for any of the free agent ones. 536 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: And I think Devin Williams some other guys are gonna 537 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: mention honorable mentions, make a lot of sets. 538 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: For that definitely last guy that we're gonna give his 539 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: own little talk to here. Not necessarily the most exciting name, 540 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: but to me, Cedric Mullins feels like the perfect platoon 541 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: centerfielder to rock with Tyrone Taylor going into this next year, 542 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be cheaper than Harrison Bater was basically 543 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: last year. Bader got ten million dollars. Cedric Mullens is 544 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: probably gonna get around that tennish million dollar range in arbitration, 545 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: and he's a really good defensive center field. They're fantastic 546 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: out there. His bat has not been as good as 547 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: his as his breakout year a couple of years ago 548 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: with the Orioles, and you were going to a much 549 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: less hitter friendly ballpark for a left handed hitter from 550 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: Baltimore to City Field. But the defense and just being 551 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: a better hitter than what we were running out pretty 552 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: much every single day in centerfield for most of the year, 553 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: those four hundred at bats seems like worth it to me, 554 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: and I can't imagine it didn't cost much. The Oriols 555 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: have way too many outfielders. They have to get rid 556 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: of them at some point. 557 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: And Mullins is someone who I don't like using like 558 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 2: halves of a season to like be like, oh, this 559 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: guy's definitely gonna better next year. But it wasn't abismo 560 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: first two months, and he really got himself together in 561 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: the second half. Wasn't above league average hit for the 562 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: last two full months of the season, still played a 563 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: really good defensive center field, doesn't swing and miss very often. 564 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: Fast guyed another way, they just add some good like 565 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: popa vet Last says, into this lineup. And oddly enough, 566 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: when the Brewers, I mean when the Orioles did move 567 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: all those fences back, I guess it was rightfield was 568 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: fine for him, It doesn't really matter. But it's just 569 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: it's a it's a little complete ballplayer for a guy 570 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: who's on one year of team control, who's going to 571 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: be due probably a two three million dollar raise, and 572 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: they don't really care to pay that anyway, because they 573 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 2: have to pinch their pennies and fill out the edges 574 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: of their roster anyway. I just don't think they want 575 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: to pay Cedric Moules eight and have million dollars, and 576 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: they have a heap of talent every single position on 577 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: the field, and he's thirty years old. You could probably 578 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 2: get him for less than expected. But the only thing 579 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: is with trading with the Orioles that you have to 580 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: trade something of major league caliber to get it. 581 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: But maybe you don't. I don't know if you have to. 582 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: They have so many major ly caliber guys. They're moving 583 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: Moanes because they have no room for major league caliber guys. 584 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 2: But you still don't. The Orioles are like, we like 585 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: our prospects because we're there. Our prospects like you. If 586 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: we get you from the beginning, you don't have any 587 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: bad habits, Like if you spend time with any other organizations. 588 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: We know more than everybody else. 589 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: You think they don't like any prospects in the entire 590 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: Mets organization. They're like, they're not in an organization. Get 591 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: rid of them. I think you're overreacting here. 592 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: No, I think I think cruzy A lot of these 593 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: teams would rather have a pro I think it's like 594 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: kind of the you're reverse of what the Rays like 595 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: to do sometimes, like we like to get something that's 596 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: kind of close to being fully made, but they make 597 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: a little adjustment. I think the Orioles love working from 598 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: the ground up. They seem to be so steadfast in 599 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 2: this these last few years. 600 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: Do you have any white guys with blonde hair that 601 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: goes down to like you're just below your ears, because 602 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: they do love that look. 603 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brett Bathy, and he would get laughed at it. 604 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: I didn't fel by the rest of guys that play 605 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 2: baseball there, But not to talk to that baby. But 606 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: I just think you probably have to be interesting and 607 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: send them a pitcher that can probably contribute, which I 608 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: don't even know who that is for the Mets. 609 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think the price is gonna 610 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: be that high, I really don't. 611 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: I don't think it's weird, but I think I think 612 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: it's just a weird match. Maybe maybe we need to 613 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 2: just need their team to come in there. I love 614 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: to execute their three team trade. 615 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: Good three team trade gets me going some honorable mentions 616 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: for guys that we did not put fully in today's 617 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: video but are interesting. Jacob deGrom will not be traded 618 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: to the New York zero chance. No. 619 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: Jacob mcgram is a full no trade clause. He's doing 620 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: forty million dollars next year. I don't think anybody on 621 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 2: earth would want to pay that. And also with the 622 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: full no trade clause, like we were on the inside 623 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: a little bit, we know that that relationship was not 624 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 2: very good by the end. I don't. I think a 625 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: lot of the Mets fans get a warm, fuzzy feeling 626 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: from the Grom. I do too. I love the Grom 627 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: will be one of my favorite players I've ever watched 628 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: in baseball my entire life. I don't think the Mets 629 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: and the Ground like each other very much, and I 630 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 2: don't think there's any chance of there ever being a reunion, 631 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: even one Iowa. 632 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, unless for some reason the Rangers will pay his 633 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: entire contract. I think that's how it happens. Yeah, or 634 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: unless the Mets to move cities. Yeah, I think that 635 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: might be the whole thing. Another picture name that to 636 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: mention Sonny Gray. He has a full note trade clause. 637 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: Feels like he might just not like New York based 638 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: on his time here. 639 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: I could see it could see that possibly being the case. 640 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: Another one who also comes from the Cardinals, Ryan Helsley. 641 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: All the same kind of things we talked about with 642 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 2: Devin Williams last year. Team's trying to shed some money. 643 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: He's incredible. I might even think right now, in a 644 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 2: factim he's better than Devin Williams. And he's got to 645 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: hung out with him, and I've hung at him. He's 646 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: a great guy. He's a hell of a dude. I 647 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: got a I talgaate with him for Highest Day Michigan 648 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: game a few years ago. But he's awesome. He just 649 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 2: might cost a tiny bit more because he is cheaper 650 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: and he's better, But I think still within the same range. 651 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: You could definitely acquire Ryan Helsley because the Cardinals look 652 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: like they are they're broke. 653 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: Mets will not get Luis Robert. I don't think there's 654 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: any scenario you get him. Josh Nailer is a name 655 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: I would love to have on the Mets if we 656 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: don't have Pete Alonzo. I'd be very happy with him 657 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: being first base DH for this team. He's a really 658 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: good ball player. He's on his last year of arbitration. 659 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna get paid. 660 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: A lots of Mets fans would be really upset to 661 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: learn how streaky Josh Nayler is. Because he's one of 662 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: the streakiest players at baseball, and you're gonna have a 663 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: three week stretch where he doesn't get a hit. You're 664 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: gonna be like, this guy fucking sucks. But no, he's quid. 665 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: But it's just it goes up and down a lot. 666 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: Any other names you want to throw out there, James 667 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: for the people at home. 668 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: I mean my guy, Eric Fevy, of course, Eric Fetty 669 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: similar in a one year, ten million dollars in his 670 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: Cardinals team that's gonna be pinching their little pennies because 671 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: they don't have an RSN anymore. They've they've lost their 672 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: TV deal or are they're gonna be losing it soon. 673 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: He's gonna be someone available. A couple other relievers I 674 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: think are quite interesting. David Bednard the pirates just are 675 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: always willing to shed some money from a believer in 676 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 2: arbitration to to get some more pieces back. I think 677 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: Emmanual class A might get traded. 678 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Whoa. 679 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: I think he's got one more year left and the 680 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: Guardians just that's kind of how they roll. I could 681 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: see that happening. P Fairbanks similar other pitchers. Jeffery Springs 682 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: has three more years left. They put them on here, 683 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: but maybe don't see it happening now. And as far 684 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: as pictures, that kind of feels like the rest maybe 685 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: then Chris Paddock the Last Ones and mid Rotation option 686 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: kind of similarly to Eric Fevy because the Twins are 687 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 2: another team that seems desperately willing to shed money because 688 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: of what's going on with their TV package. But it 689 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: pitching wise, that's kind of all I have. You have 690 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: any other hitters for the people? Oh and also you 691 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: mentioned the other day, I think redet Meurs could actually 692 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: get moved. He's in arbitration and the Angels just love 693 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: to do dumb things. Yeah, they're stupid, and you could 694 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 2: come again confuse him. So I'm marked there for Redevers. 695 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: I want to mention Brent Rooker. 696 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: I want him. I want him. I want him. I 697 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: want Brent Rooker. I know you don't think he's gonna 698 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: get traded. He probably won't, But if he's available, I'd 699 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: love to knock on the E's door and see if 700 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: we can get him. And also Ryan Mountcastle I'm interested too, 701 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: only again, if there's no pe Alonso playing first base. 702 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: I think Ryan Vancrest is gonna pop off when he 703 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: leaves Baltimore. 704 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think Brent Rooker will be traded 705 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: in one year, just not this one. Just three years 706 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 2: of team matrovers two years of the team control. I 707 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: think it's a big difference in value. No one's paying 708 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: for that guy. Last sneaky one. Keep an eye out 709 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: for Leody Tavaris too, he has no space in Texas. 710 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: He's a center fits of outfielder with a left handed bat, 711 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: another platoon option for Tyrone Taylor. Yeah, and in a 712 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: world where where pe A Lonzo is knocking back to 713 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: the Mets, I could see Yandy Diaz from the Rays 714 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: or Nathaniel Low from the Rangers both being traded. 715 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: Both just consistent, steady guys. Not gonna be sexy, but 716 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: they'll hit six and you'll be like, oh nice, I'm happy. 717 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: Is that Bat's being taken right now? 718 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent, But that's it. Those are the 719 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: five players I think the Mets must trade for this offseason. 720 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: Let us know in the comment section who you guys 721 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: think is the most important player the Mets could trade for. 722 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: I remember to drop a l like on the video. 723 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, subscribe over there Mets Up 724 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: podcast And if you're listening, we appreciate you. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, 725 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Drop us a rating, drop us review, 726 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: download and subscribe. We will catch you guys all. I 727 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: don't know. We're just releasing episodes whenever we want, so 728 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: we'll probably see you this week. Yeah another time. 729 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: All right, peace peace, I guys, see you next time. 730 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Let's go Mat