WEBVTT - BFFs 7/23 Hour 1: Bengals Fantasy Preview, Browns Pass Catchers 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:06.360 Fantasy Sports Radio Network. In Major League Baseball, as the 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:10.160 trade deadline approaches, many rumors will come and go. John 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.040 Hayman with a new one. He's an MLB network. He's 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.960 reporting that Jason Vargas is the quote most likely to 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.320 go of the starting pitchers on the Mets. He did 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.320 say the Mets are committed sellers, but add the caveat 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.439 that they don't believe they can do a complete tear down. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.520 In New York, John Rosey of MLB Network reports that 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.880 the Rockies could consider dealing Charlie Blackman before the trade deadline. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.600 And in Tampa Bay, third baseman the Andy Daz will 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.120 undergo x rays after leaving Monday's game versus the Red 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.640 Sox following a foul ball off his left foot. And 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.880 in the NFL, a couple of transactions with New York Times, 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.600 Daniel Jones finally signed on the dotted line for the 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.599 New York Giants and former Jets quarterback, amongst others, Mark 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.760 Sanchez has retired from the NFL and they'll start commentating 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.159 in the fall. On Van Strafford. This has been your 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:56.000 Fantasy Sports Radio Network news update. Stay tuned to the 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.480 Fantasy Sports Radio Network for more updates at the top 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:04.600 of every hour. You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:40.880 Listen matter t GIT Yes, now welcome your bait, your 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:50.400 host by date from mine, that's fun, your go host 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:56.360 by god from St. Francis Practice. Stand all ladies and 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:03.440 tell me your ps and with that we welcome you 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.520 me inside Studio thirty four. This eas the BFFs. That 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.440 is frank Stamfell. I am Greg Sacemen. Frankie has a 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.600 hanging bud. What's going on? Man? Happy Tuesday to you? Honestly? 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.960 Has you heard in the news update there sad day 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:22.920 for Jets fans, Mark Sanchez retiring. Sorry, but That's how 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.920 I'm doing? Is that? Is that? It? Outside of that, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.400 I'm enjoying the colder weather outside. It's great. I'm wearing 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.720 jeans for the first time. And I'm also wearing jeans. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.959 It was great. We don't look this similar today, No, 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.560 we don't. Yeah, nice Polo, pretty good e. Why how 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.000 do you look to that I have no sleeves on 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:43.720 my shirt. Are you? Are you wearing jeans as well? Uh? No, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:48.680 it's like degrees And I came and I came from 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.720 Tampa Bay where it was even hotter. So I am 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.519 not wearing pants all right, no pants wise, and his 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.000 undy's here on the BFF. We all seems on these 0:02:56.040 --> 0:03:01.040 all times it's like probably nothing whatever, Um, all right, 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.320 we can't see below the neck area anyway. To be honestly, underwear, 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.880 He's underwear is probably like more than he normally is covering. Yeah, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:09.520 maybe some boxer briefs that would be a little bit 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.560 more than the usual. I'm a boxer brief, he gotta 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.960 be boxers cross. I'm not change it up. I go 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:22.440 with the go with just the boxers. That's not like 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.040 the super tight ones. But then I also changed it 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.040 up with the boxer banks. Only I have a variety 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.640 in life, and only going to the boxers when all 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:33.280 the briefs are really laundry. That's fair. Yeah, yeah, all right. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.040 So today's all even though UIs in Nashville, where New York, 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.680 it's an Ohio day on the program to day because 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.320 we're gonna go over the Browns and the Bengals inside 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.440 the n FC North as we continue our team by 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.680 a team question is not really a breakdown, it's it's 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.240 more questions and I'm excited to get tomorrow. He's the 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.520 Steelers coming up tomorrow, and I'm not James Connor guy. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.440 You have the resident James Connor guy, you and Blake Billy. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.800 It seems not the wrong with that. The guys the 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.760 advocates of James Conner as we should as we should be. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.480 We'll talk more about that tomorrow's show. Well, I'm excited 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.240 about it. I want to talk about Steelers and we'll 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.360 talk about the brown where we're not talking about James Connors. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.360 A few moments ago we were we're also talking about 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:13.960 Tyler Boyd. Down we were, and I'm excited to get 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:15.920 into Tyler Boyd here e y Stocks because Frank and 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:17.720 I disagreed a little bit here and I was trying 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.440 I was doing some research. I was trying to figure 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.200 out almost like what I was doing with Kenny and Drake, 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:24.760 like trying to figure out, like why we don't like 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.919 Tyler Boyd. And there's more reasons than to not like 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.599 Tyler boy than Kenyan Drake for the record, but I like. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.119 I like Tyler boy especially where he's going. I'm excited 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:35.880 to get into that. I'm excited, uh to get into 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.400 the Bengals, like just a little let's not waste no 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.839 more time. Let's let's get into it, and let's start 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:44.359 with Cincinnati Bengals, because Zach Taylor finally a new regime 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.240 in Cincinnati. And I think the biggest question that we 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.479 have to ask ourselves we're gonna throw up to you, EUI, 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.240 is how much is this going to change things? It's 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:57.240 the same quarterback, the same core, the same poorest offensive 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.640 lines and wide receivers, say running back, same tight ends. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:03.640 I mean, are things the same in Cincinnati outside of 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.640 the coaching staff for the first time in almost two decades? 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.479 So are you more excited because of what's new? Or 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.120 are you thinking that, hey, I knew what to expect 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.560 when Morvin Lewis was in charge and that question mark 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.200 has you a bit worried. I mean, for me, the 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.520 Bengals are is a lot of opportunity. I mean, there's 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.560 a lot of very high level fantasy players. A j. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.239 Green is being massively disperspected at this time of years. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.719 If you're asking my opinion, uh, Joe Mixing is high 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.320 on the board. I think he's uh slid a little 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.080 because they lost their rookie left tackle. But I mean, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.880 for me, the most recent history where something like this 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.520 where you should be excited to think about Jeff Fisher 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:52.600 and the Rams. He made Todd Gurley unusable almost at 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.880 that time. You know, three years ago, was the best 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.279 running back in the league, was drafted first overall, and 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.240 Jeff Fisher, because of the way he coached, in the 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.520 way he schemed an offensive game plan, made him almost 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.920 unusable incomes McVeigh and there, if not the top there 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.200 and the for sure in the top three offenses in 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.440 the NFL. I'm not saying that's what Cincinnati is gonna be, 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.880 but at least there is chance, there is a high 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.320 high chance that things will improve for fantasy. And I 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.520 think that's actually a really good point that you bring 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:27.120 up that when Jeff Fisher finally left the Rams, they 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:31.000 were reinvigorated. There they had the same core. He wrought 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.960 in other pieces like Robert Woods when others before Brandon Cooks, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.960 but they brought in a few other pieces nobody huge, 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.040 and it was like a totally new team. Can Zach 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.599 Taylor have that effect. I know everyone likes to be 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.120 friends with Sean mcveigh's that's how Zach Taylor got this job, 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.040 But can Zach Taylor have that same effect on Cincinnati? 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.359 That Sean McVeigh did on the Rams. I think he 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.040 can have a similar effect, maybe not to the same extent, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.000 because again, Sean McVeigh, what he has been able to 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.320 do over the past couple of seasons with the Rams 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.120 has been precedented. It's been awesome to watch, it's been 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.280 awesome for fantasy football. But the chance is there, and 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.680 I like what they said about the opportunity and the 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.920 opportunity for upside, specifically in this Bengals offense. Last year 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.160 they were seventeen in points per game, and that was 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.840 with a j Green missing half the season. That was 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.600 with Andy Dalton not able to finish the season, and 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.680 that was with Marvin Lewis who's been you know, mired 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.360 and meeker mediocrity for years now and was a defensive 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.560 minded head coach. So now you're bringing a younger, offensive 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.480 minded head coach in Zach Taylor, who's just thirty six 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.240 years old. He's close to that Sean McVeigh age range 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.880 as well, so maybe he can relate with these, uh, 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.920 these offensive players a little bit more and these younger 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.800 guys on the team and all those things kind of together, 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.440 Greg culminating, I think that there is legitimate offensive upside 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.240 for these pieces on this team. I agree with the 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.160 y so far. Uh you know, when it comes to 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.720 a J. Green, I feel like he's being a little 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.520 bit disrespectable. We'll talk about that more. Obviously, we'll get 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.240 into Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixon and you know, ultimately 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.920 I think that there is offensive upside for this team. Yeah. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:08.160 I I maybe I've been maybe I've been too off 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:12.760 on them because of these offensive line issues. But Zach 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.120 Taylor is going to provide some life into the offense. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.080 I think that's really the word that comes to mind 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.880 right there. It seemed like forever it was he was 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.680 the longest head to coach in the NFL. You know, 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.160 he's outside of Bill Belichick thousand and three to team six. 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.120 I mean, you get you get a breath of fresh air, 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.920 you get a young, offensive minded head coaching. I don't 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.120 think that it can hurt the offense the defense. It 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.880 doesn't really matter for fans. It's going to change just 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.520 how much? How does it reflect a DP. 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We're getting into the Cincinnati Bengals, and let 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.400 me start with running back and I imagine Tyler Boyd 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.120 before I'll get him a j green a little bit. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.439 But let me start the running backs, and let me 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.040 start with Joe Mixon. Where's Joe Mixon going right now, Frankie, 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:52.240 Joe Mixon is going right now at that late first 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:56.199 early second round range. Specifically, I'm gonna start using um 0:09:56.400 --> 0:10:01.200 July as the date POSI because that was the day 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:05.640 that the Tyreek Hill news was announced, so I changes everything. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.800 So Joe Mixon since then, over the past five days, 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.760 his ADPs fifteen point six four is RB nine off 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.000 the board sandwich between Melvin Gordon and Todd Gurley. Very 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.440 interesting range of running backs, must say so myself. Yeah, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.199 that's that's a really interesting spot between Melvin Gordon, Joe Mixon, 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.560 and Todd Gurley. And I'd like to think that I'd 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.480 like to think that Joe Mixon at this moment is 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.160 the safest of those three, given the contract from Melvin Gordon, 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:40.280 given the knee of Todd Gurley. Nixon is also going 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.640 right after my guy James Connor as well. You I 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.080 thought like Mixon more than Connor, didn't you. I have 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.800 Connor ranked once spot higher. You do. Yeah, even when 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.760 I did the first round mock for the FANDUL hurry up, 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.679 I had Conrad of Levin and I had Mixed, right, 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.040 I convinced you that, yes, yes, I forgot I forgot 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.520 Joe mix him. It's funny because because of the offensive line, 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.679 I wasn't him at all. And again it's the end 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.440 of July. God knows how it will change. But I 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.800 wasn't really on at all because they did have multiple 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.600 injuries along the offensive line, not just the rookie left tackle. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.720 And I'm just like, I don't want to do this, 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.120 And you went up to me a little while ago. 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.120 I was like, Hey, the same crap offensive line and 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.920 he finished as a top twelve running back last season. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.760 Why can't he do that again in a better offense. 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.640 And when you said that kind of made sense. So 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.600 let me throw this to you, e y, where do 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.080 you have Joe Mixon ranks? And how would you compare 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:35.680 him to both Melvin Gordon and Todd Gurley given their situations? Uh? Yeah, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.160 currently I think I have him a number eleven, and 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.480 uh I had him higher than that, and then the 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.560 left tackle got hurt and they're moving the guy. I 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.440 believe their right tackle back to left tackle. Um. But 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.160 the more I'm thinking about it, I mean I could 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.280 move him back up the offensive Like I said, is opportunity. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.360 And for someone with his skill set and his his 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:00.800 crazy athleticism, all he needs his opportunity. He has a 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.840 three down back. He can play all three downs. He 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.760 can catch, he can run in space, he's got size, 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.880 he's got speed. I mean he's I mean literally, if 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.360 you're going to build a running back from scratch, I 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.560 mean I believe he would turn out just how Joe 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.480 Mixon looks. So it's uh, I might have to move 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.199 him up. He's at eleven now, But I mean we're 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.480 so far out from the season, like they're just starting 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.760 training camp, so I mean this is all up for debate. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.280 But uh, just thinking about it now, I might have 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.760 to move him up a little bit. I like mixing. Yeah, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:31.160 I like him as well. I have him as my 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.800 RB eight overall right now, just ahead of Todd Gurley 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.000 and Melvin Gordon for the reasons you mentioned. Greg, I 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.640 just feel like he is the safest of that bunch 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.000 right now. He doesn't have arthritis in his knee, or 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.560 at least it hasn't been reported. And Melvin Gordon with 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:48.040 the whole contract holdout situation right now. Uh, and yeah, look, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.839 Joe Mixon last year finesses RB nine in Fantasy points 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.080 per game. Last year, the average four point nine yards 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.920 per carry. That was behind basically the same offensive line 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.040 that he's going to be running behind this year. He 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.440 played seventy three percent of the snaps. That is a 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:05.000 workhorse load, you know. That was tied for eighth among 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.320 running backs last year. He averaged exactly twenty touches per game, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.840 sixteen point nine carries per game, three point one receptions um. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.960 And he was unquestionably they're running back inside of the 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.560 red zone, Greg and you know I I say was 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.160 because again it is a new scheme. But Zach Taylor 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.760 is coming from Sean McVeigh system where he used Todd 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.400 Gurley as a workhorse and used him as, you know, 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:30.959 a legitimate pass catcher out of the backfield, and he 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.400 was also the unquestioned workhorse running back inside of the 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.719 red zone. So I think, based on the fact that 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.880 Joe Mixon was used that way last year, why would 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.520 Zach Taylor go away from using Joe Mixon that way 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.480 this year? Last season, Joe Mixon saw sixty six point 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.319 seven percent of the Bengals carries inside of the twenty 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.320 yard line, that was fourth most among running backs last season, 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.880 seventy percent inside the ten that was tied for second, 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.240 and seventy five percent of the Bengals carries from inside 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.440 of the five yard line that was tied for third. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.480 So all for remarks from inside the twenty, the ten, 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.280 and the five were inside the top five in the NFL. 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.679 So he's being used in the red zone, he's going 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.000 to catch passes. He average four point nine yards per 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.719 carry last year behind that offensive line. I don't really 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.680 see what's not to like this. Year for Joe Mixon. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.160 We've also heard a lot that Zack Taylor is going 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.280 to try to run as much as possible. That shall 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.760 make the system for the three wide receivers, one running back, 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:25.600 one tight end correct. That he's a workhorse running back. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.720 They ran, whether he's an any problems or not. They 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.880 ran to gurly into the ground in l A over 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.320 the past two years. I have to believe they're going 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.480 to do the same for Joe Mixon as well. Do 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.760 you want to get Mixon now when he's about to 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:44.400 be that girly level workhorse, not next year? Like right now, 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.000 you're getting him at what I think is as FO Right, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.040 so last year he finished as RB nine based on 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:51.960 the workload that he's seen. I don't really think that 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.280 that's going to change much. And his upside might be 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.000 a top five running back if everything comes together for 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.600 the offense. So you draft him now and you kind 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.680 of have to project forward, whereas next year, maybe this 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.840 guy's the top five pick. I honestly think if he 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:09.320 stays healthy, being a top ten maybe top twelve is 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.440 running back, that's probably his floor and that's close to 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.120 where you're getting him right now. Sure, absolutely, I think 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.200 that Joe Mixon the more I look at it and 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:17.840 the more and I just try to use reason, right, Like, 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:19.160 I just try and get the guy that's going to 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.320 get the ball, and Joe Mixon is gonna get the 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:26.760 ball to me. There's nothing that really not to like here, 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.120 Like besides the offensive line. The offensive line is an issue. 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.400 But if Zach Taylor can get Joe Mixon in space 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.880 and get him some openings, he's probably gonna finish once 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.000 again as the top ten running back. You got nothing 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.440 from me. I have him as my r P eight, 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.760 so I'm not gonna argue with you. Are you cool though? 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.640 Her eight? Fine? You had him in the first moch 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.520 that you did and things have changed, like Melbourne Gordon 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:56.840 you had it number twelve overall, right, would you feel comfortable, 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.440 either of you guys, with Joe Mixon as your first 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.240 round pick? Yeah? I think it's just semantics, because you know, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:04.680 if you're in that back end, you're gonna get a 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.320 really really good wide receiver. Or you could double down 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.320 on the running back position and take like a mixing 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.280 and then one of these risky running backs like a girlie, 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.640 or you know, the injury risk of a Dalvin Cook. 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.640 So you know, it's really just semantics. He's yes, he's 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.840 your first round pick, but you're going to get another 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.800 top fifteen ish player in the second round as well. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.400 So yeah, I'm perfectly fine doing that. In fact, I 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.520 would take him. You know, if I was anywhere picks 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.400 ten to twelve, I would take the running back first, 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:33.920 just to make sure that I get him, and then 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.120 you're still gonna get a really really good wide receiver 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:37.760 in the second round if you wanted to as well, 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.680 someone like a Michael Thomas or a Juju Smith Schuster, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.080 Odell Beckham. So, um, yeah, I think it's just semantics. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:45.640 I don't I don't mind taking him as my first 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.600 round pick in that later half of the first round, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.800 would you I have them? Outside of that? I think 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.400 I have him at like, uh in between like sixteen 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.960 and nineteen. He's kind of roving around in there, and 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:58.920 like I said, I might move him up, which might 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:00.960 bring him head. I mean, I think for me, it 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.880 just depends on, um, you know, who goes before him 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.520 and what kind of a scoring lead you're in. I mean, 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.280 the the guy is going to catch passes, I think 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.680 that's uh. Giovanni Bernard and that's more his specialty, not 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.120 that mixing. Can't do it. But that's why, I mean, 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.480 that's where they're gonna use Bernard for. He's going to 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.000 be the third down uh, pass catching back. That's what 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.520 they've done. Um, not that mix and can't do it. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.919 And he didn't do it last year. He Uh, he 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.000 was very effective at that when he did do it, 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.280 but he didn't do it as that much and not 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.000 as much as I think I'd like to see him. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.000 I mean, I'm a bit of an old school where 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.160 I want I want a Black that can do all 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.560 those things to not come off the field. I want 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.040 him to be on the field all the time and 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:43.920 only to come off and the just catch his breath 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.080 or maybe just a change of pace kind of thing, 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.160 and I'll pick you back off what you just said. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.560 E y. I think he is capable of doing that. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.320 It's just a matter of he hasn't necessarily been used 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.520 in that capacity yet. You look at his two year 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.639 career in Oklahoma. He had sixty five receptions in just 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.439 those two years. So think he's capable of catching fifty 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.040 plus passes, maybe even sixty plus receptions if he's used 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.520 in a similar way that Gurley was used in l A. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.800 But I would set that floor at let's say forty five, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.080 because last year he averaged three receptions per game and 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.320 he only played fourteen games, so he just missed that. 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.440 But if you were to play sixteen, you obviously would 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.320 have been on pace for like right around forty fifty receptions. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.280 So I think he's probably gonna be in that range anymore, 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.159 from like forty five to sixty receptions. I think the 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.440 only time you see you come off the field, because again, 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.640 there's no affinity here for any other running back anymore. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.320 Like it's not like Marvin Lewis drafted him and he's 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.399 going to stick with him, and he likes somebody's friends 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.800 with him. None that it doesn't matter anymore. Now it's 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.639 the talent. And all I could go back is to 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.399 Zach Taylor's history and the most recent history when it 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.840 comes to Taylor's Todd Gurley. I think that's what you 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.480 can see what Joe Mixon too. All Right, I wanna 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.239 take a break when we come back. Let's get into 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.640 the wide receivers. Let's get into a J Green, Let's 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.760 eat the Tyler Boyd. 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Alex Fasano was talking to us 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:49.960 and he was like, Hey, who would you have hired? 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.760 Derek Carr or any Dalton? And my first instinct was like, 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.560 that's a good one. That's pretty close. Like you got 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.320 Antonio Brown now in Oakland, you got John Groom in 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.679 the quarterback I but Annie Dalton, like when he's been 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.120 healthy and when his team around it has been healthy. 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.560 There's been times We've used them throughout fantasy football leagues. 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:10.800 So when I thought about it for a little bit longer, 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:15.400 like you mean, Dalton Man, especially with Zach Taylor, Yeah, especially, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:17.520 I would have him ahead of Derek Carr. And this 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.920 is look, if you miss out on obviously, I would 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:24.240 want Todd Brady or or Jimmy Garoppolo, Philip Rivers, Lamar Jackson, 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.480 any of those top twenty two. I'm gonna keep using 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.600 that twenty two mark as he cut off as the 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.800 quarterbacks that I would really really want on my team, 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:33.880 whether it's in a one quarterback league, if I wait 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:35.960 for my first quarterback, or if I play in a 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:37.680 super flex league, I would want two of those top 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:40.399 twenty two guys. But if I do miss out on 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.679 the Bradies, Garoppolos, Philip Rivers, I have Andy Dalton as 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.320 my QB twenty three. And it's worth mentioning that last 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.320 year when everyone was healthy through weeks one to eight, 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.560 Andy Dalton was the QB fourteen overall during that stretch. 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:55.399 So I just think based on the weapons that he 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.040 has again having a j Green, having Tyler boyd Andy 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.960 Dalton is not someone who's going to elevate the talent 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.240 around him, but he is somebody himself who can have 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:07.240 a decent fantasy output, who can be elevated when he 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.680 has all those weapons around him healthy from a J. 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.760 Green to Tyler Boyd to maybe they get something out 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:14.840 of John Ross this year and Joe Mixon on the 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.320 field as well. I think it's just worth mentioning that 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:20.240 last year we just wanted eight. Andy Dalton was the 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:24.600 QB fourteen. He is a fine ish fallback option in 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.480 a super flex league as your second quarterback, although I 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:29.560 would want someone better than that. I'll take him ahead 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.919 of Derek car though I agree, I think any Dalton's 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.040 a fine choice as the second quarterback as a super 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.720 flex What about you? What do you think? Yeah? I 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.359 have him one ahead of Derek Carr, like literally like 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:44.000 one quarterback ahead. And I feel like, um, it could 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.359 go either way. I feel like he's shown times when 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:53.200 he's pretty efficient. Uh, he's heavily had very good fantasy 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:57.800 quarterback seasons. Um. And I mean, if we're saying there's 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:01.800 a possibility that mixes a thing, there's a J. Green 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:05.520 is being disrespected, maybe even Tyler Boyd is being disrespected. 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:07.120 Boy and he's the ball and he's the guy that's 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.240 getting these guy players the ball. He's the starting quarterback 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:13.960 in Cincinnati. That's not even up for debate. So if 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.960 this is going to be a good offensive fantasy team, 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.439 then it's going to be led by Andy Dalton. So 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:21.359 maybe we all got to move him up. I don't know. 0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.040 It's very funny because for years we talked about how 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:28.120 you couldn't draft A J. Green before Julio Jones inside 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.040 like that top Crew Water Shavers because of Andy Dalton. 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.879 And now because all these guys are going later, you're 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.320 not talking about the first round anymore, and in most 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:39.280 cases you're talking about the second round either that Andy 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.520 Dalton is actually kind of a benefit, right, Like you 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:43.840 have Andy Dalton, you know what you get. It's not bad, 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.800 it's a better offense. You're like, okay, I'm cool with that. 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.440 And that raised me A J. Green and Tyler Boyd. 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:55.840 A J. Green probably isn't Frank Julio Jones, Odell Beckham, 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.040 Antonio Brown anymore, and it's reflected in his ADP. That's 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.560 what I'm saying, like, is not in that category anymore. 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:05.120 But I still feel like when you see his name 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.560 still there on draft boards as you get into the 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:09.920 second round, you get to Mike Evans of the World, 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.760 for instance, and Keenan Allen and uh and more, you're like, oh, man, 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:15.680 A J. Green is still there. A J. Green still 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:18.639 can can be that guy I'm getting his steel. Do 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.960 you feel that way about him? Yeah? I do right now. 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.520 And something that we hear about fantasy sports, whether it's 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:27.399 baseball or football or any sport, really we try to 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.840 find that player in that second third round range who 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:32.960 can return first round value. We did a whole show. 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:34.560 We did a whole show on it last year, and 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:36.400 I'm sure we will again. I think A. J. Green 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:38.320 is one of those players that's going in the third 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.520 round right now that can return wide receiver one value 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.080 this season. Technically he's actually going in the fourth round 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:48.159 and we're thirty seven overall at the NFF. Just it's crazy. 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.960 Right now, I'm as my wide receiver twelve, just behind 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.239 t Y Hilton and Keenan Allen, just the head of 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.359 the Vikings guys. It's a bit of a toss up 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.440 there and just ahead of a Mari Cooper just because 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.720 I think he'll be more consistent than a MARII Cooper. 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:02.760 But again, I'm gonna go back to weeks one through eight. 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.480 That's when A J. Green was at his healthiest, Tyler 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.879 Boyd was healthy on the field, and he Dalton was healthy. 0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.320 All of them together during that time, A J. Green 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.639 seventy five targets percent of the target share. He was 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:18.240 the wide receiver seven overall in Fantasy football. During that time. 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.119 He played sixteen games. In seventeen, he finished as wide 0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:26.800 receiver eleven. If you look at basically every season that 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.720 he's been in the league, he's finished between wide receiver 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.720 three and wide receiver seventeen and fantasy points per game. 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:33.879 I used points per game because there has been there 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.479 have been seasons that where he's missed time due to injury. 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.480 I think that's obviously being factored into his ADP right now. 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:41.639 But in every season he's been in the league, he's 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.520 finished between wide receiver three and wide receiver seventeen. So 0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.639 right now he's being drafted as wide receiver fifteen off 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.480 the board, you're drafting him at his floor. You're getting 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.600 him as absolute floor. Greg when he's on the field, 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.000 he will at least be around that range with his 0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:57.280 upside to be better because as I mentioned, those first 0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.280 eight weeks he was the wide receiver seven. I've Key 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.280 is one of the best values right now going in 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.480 the third fourth front range. It's really interesting because I 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.720 think the wide receivers that he's paired with, and I 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:08.520 think you have them in the right spot. Like to me, 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.879 he's definitely after Keenan Allen and t Y Hilton. But 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.719 then you get to Mary Cooper, Adam Fields, Stefon Diggs, 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.840 Like that's right, Like I think that crew is right. 0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.320 But then I think you have to open up the 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.359 discussion to the other players that are going in the 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.840 third round, right, like those wide receivers fine, like in 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.280 that mix, Okay, I can get that, But he's in 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.520 the mix with players like Leonard Fournett, who we spoke 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:34.320 about earlier this week, Zach Ertz, George Kittle, Savante Freeman, 0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:38.480 Marlon Mack. Like, would you take a J. Carry On Johnson? 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.720 Would you take a J. Green above some of those guys? 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:46.080 I think the answer probably is yes, Eric, Yeah, it's 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:48.160 yes for me. I mean, if if a J. Green 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.280 stays where he is, a DP, and I don't think 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.119 you will, I think you'll just keep moving up and 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.600 up and up. Um. I've got him my seventeen overall, 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.280 like I'm taking him all over the place. I got 0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.720 him like above Michael Thomas, I got him above Maury 0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:03.960 Coop for Tyreek Kill, Tonio Brown. Um, he's just he's 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.280 just more of a sure thing. And I I think 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:11.280 he's arguably up there with Hopkins as one of the 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:15.080 best receivers in the league currently. And I mean again, 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.480 this takes us back to his only problem is is 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:21.000 Andy Dalton's quarterback. Andy Dalton cannot throw a great deep 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.359 ball um, but they've proven that they can do it 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.960 in the past. There's definitely a connection there. And if 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.960 he stays healthy where he's being drafted, that's like that'll 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.600 be the steal of the year. You do have to 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.679 keep in mind that, you know, he's battled a lot 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.720 of injuries. Last year, he had a toe injury as well, 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.879 So that's something to pay attention to during the during 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.200 training camp. You know, all the training camps are starting 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.280 to open up. This week, We're seeing more and more teams, 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:48.159 the Falcons and the uh was it the Big Raiders 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.679 over training hid tomorrow was Broncos Broncos. Yes, it was 0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:53.960 the Falcons and the Broncos have already opened up because 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:55.320 those are the two teams playing in the Whole of 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.920 Fame game. But we're seeing more teams open up over 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.840 this week and next week. Hey to to A J. Green, 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.120 I want to see how he's moving. If we hear 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.840 anything about that toe. Honestly, if we hear anything that 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:08.800 like he's sitting out because of a toe or like 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.119 a foot or an ankle, then I think that, you know, 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.359 if we already have concerns about that before the season 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.040 even starts, Craig, then I think, like, all right, that's 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.159 why he's going in this range. I get it. But 0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.320 if he's all systems go, then he is an absolute 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.000 stealer at his carent adp. So the one of the 0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:26.840 other question marks that you have with A J. Green, 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.200 or at least certain people have a J. Green. Last 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.760 year was were we seeing a changing in the guard 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.720 I know our buddy Corey Parson pushed this right both 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.439 in a both Atlanta and Cincinnati, like it was Calvin 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.440 really going to become the guy and Julio Jones is 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.920 in one way and the same in Cincinnati was some 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.200 fire takes from the executive with Tyler Boyd go off 0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.480 this way and A J. Green down right like that 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.800 was a take and Tyler Boyd on Calward lead too. 0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:52.680 But Tyler Boyd had a really good year last year, 0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:54.880 over a thousand yards receiving. He was constantly in the 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:56.960 end zone. But Frank made a really good point earlier 0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.600 to me today that hey, Tyler boys probably better on 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:03.720 the field. A J. Green's across from him earlier earlier today. 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:07.600 Tyler Boyd's side by time extension with Cincinnati million dollars 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.760 over four years something like that, give or take. So 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.160 he's gonna be in Cincinnati long term. That means the 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.520 current regime, including Zach Taylor, likes what they've seen thus 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.680 far out of Tyler Boyd. How good Eric can Tyler 0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:23.240 Boyd be this year? Again? Again, this is and I 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.480 mean it's just sounding a broken record. It circles around 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.720 to the potential is with the new coach, the nude 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.520 coaching scheme, if everything's clicking the way it should, they 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.200 should be a pretty potent fantasy offense. I don't think 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.200 their defense is going to be great, so they're going 0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.120 to have to, you know, for the receivers are going 0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:40.560 to be throwing the ball at the end of the game. 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:44.000 Trying to win, trying to come back, um, which is 0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.680 we know is a good thing for fantasy players. And 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.040 if you're a guy that takes fantasy football series, you 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:50.800 need to be paying attention to this kind of stuff. 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.800 But drafting players that are just on good teams and 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.440 teams that win is not a winning strategy for fantasy. 0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:00.800 Like having players on the Dolphins and having players Jacksonville 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.120 over the last two or three years. Those are guys 0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:06.240 that get a ton of catches because they're in hurry 0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:07.760 up mode at the end of the game, whipping the 0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.320 ball over the field. The defenses are in uh, you know, 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.240 are pulled back and are not pressuring them and just 0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.080 trying to to to win the game. So it's uh, 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.560 it'll be interesting the contract. That's a big player. I said. 0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.120 We can't listen to what they tell us. We can 0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.200 only listen to what they do or pay attention to 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.040 what they do. That's saying they believe in Tyler Boyd. Listen, 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.360 A J. Green is the number one receiver there and 0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.360 and it will be as long as he's he's healthy 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.840 this year by Tyler brook Boyd could be a threat 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.160 this year and and obviously going forward. So it's uh, 0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.040 if you're somebody to pick him up kind of really 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.760 late or whatever in the Dynasty draft, you're you're you're 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:47.520 smiling big time right now. Tyler boy player off the 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.240 board according to the NFC over the last few days, 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.280 after players like three Cohen, James White, Cooper Cuff, and 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.800 Calvin Ridley. Interestingly enough, right before players like O. J. 0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:02.240 Howard Alshon, Jeffrey Allen Robinson and Evan Ingram Frank and 0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:03.880 we about like thirty seconds or so before we get 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.120 to the break. Tyler Boyd. We can finish after the 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.440 break obviously. Yeah. I like Tyler Boyd where he's going 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.920 right now. Finished wide receiver seventeen last year, seventy six 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.720 receptions over a thousand yards, seven touchdowns on a hundred 0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.760 and eight targets. The first eight weeks again of the season, 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.280 when everyone was healthy, he was wide receiver twelve. So 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.200 he is unquestionably better when A. J. Green is on 0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.680 the field. Played sixty seven percent of his snaps in 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.480 the slot last year. He will fill the Cooper cup 0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:32.040 role in this Zach Taylor Sean McVeigh ish offense, and 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.840 he's filling that Cooper Cup roll. How valuable will he be. 0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:41.760 We'll tell you when we come back. 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Bit so be it so, 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.280 Tyler Bowd, as I said going on the board, fifty 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.400 eight overall, Frankie, and that's after Cooper Cup. And you 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.080 believe he has the ability to be a Cooper Cup 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:37.080 in this offense. But you said earlier that like when 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.800 you got to him in a draft, you probably wouldn't 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.480 pull the trigger. O come, I just don't love the 0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:49.600 a DP overall in reference to other wide receivers. It's fine, 0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:53.040 he's the wide receiver off the board according to the NFFC. 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.280 I have him ranks right now. As my wide receiver six. 0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:00.640 But his ADP is sixty, so it's the last pick 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.200 of the fifth round, you know, late fifth, early sixth 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.640 round range. I agree with him going ahead of names 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:07.600 like Alshon Jeffrey. I don't think I'm gonna have much 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.760 to do with Alshon Jeffrey this season. Allen Robinson, Jervis 0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:12.640 Landry will talk about when we do the Browns as well. 0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:16.560 I like Dante Pettis too, but I guess you'd basically 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:18.960 be drafting Dante Pettis to do something similar to what 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.800 Tyler Boyd already has done and did this past season. 0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.520 So I like him in reference to wide receivers. I 0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.760 think it's a fair value, but is a DP just 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.240 seems a little high to me right now in that 0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:34.200 late fifth round range. To me, it feels right like, 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.960 it feels totally acceptable. I guess like he was good 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.320 last year. Ultimately, he was certainly better with a J. 0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.880 Green into to both of his hundred yard games. You 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:44.520 don't rather have him as your wide receiver three then 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.760 your wide receiver too in an ideal world, yes, yeah, 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.640 because if you're taking him, I don't, let's say, late 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.920 fifth round, if you take one of the early quarterbacks 0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:54.920 or a tight end and he's your wide receiver too. 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.160 Based but if you go to running backs too, wide 0:33:58.160 --> 0:33:59.560 receivers and you can get him as your wide receiver, 0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:05.120 three's that's fine. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Um the tight end 0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.360 position with the Cincinnati Bengals, is there anything here that 0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.279 we have to think about? Frank? They haven't officially resigned 0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.160 zech Tyler Eifford, have they. That's why I was trying 0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:15.799 to look up as you were talking. I don't think 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:20.160 that they have. I think, well, I'm our lads. Depth 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:24.040 charts does have Tyler Iford on the team, but he 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.839 was good when he played last year. Again, if all 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.680 those weapons are healthy, this is a really, really good 0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:33.600 Cincinnati Bengals offense and they have upside. But I mean, 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.879 you can't depend on this guy for you know, he's 0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.120 in that discussion where when you use your last two 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.480 round picks on tight ends that you're gonna you're gonna 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.600 end up streaming tight ends anyway, you know, in that 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.959 conversation with like Noah Fan and Mark Andrews and guys 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.520 like that, when you wait that long, Like sure, there's 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.800 some upside from a streaming basis when it comes to 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:54.920 Tyler Eifert. But it's not It's not someone that you 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:56.520 can draft and say, all right, well, he's gonna be 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.200 my starter for the entire yew of that season. It's 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.440 just someone that you're gonna stream as long as he's healthy. 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.799 Tyler Iffort did resign with the Bengals uh early in March, 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:05.839 but they did draft a second round tight end named 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:09.840 Drew Sample. Uh. He is in there. And remember Zach Taylor, 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.000 Zach Taylor and job If they didn't really utilize the 0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.480 tight end on a consistent basis. With the rams Um, 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.120 Tyler Higby was involved, all every involved. He couldn't really 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.879 count on either of them. I know Tyler Iffort used 0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.120 to be different, but I think all those injuries probably 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.040 have caught up to him now. I don't see anything 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.200 from the tight end position he wise or anything else 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.080 since Nati Bengals. You want to mention before we move 0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.560 on to the Cleveland Browns. No, I think just what 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.759 he said with efford Um, he's a guy in best 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.279 ball like I'm taking him with, you know, my my 0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.560 third tight end, my very last pick, because we've seen 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.280 him be a dompant, dominant player of that position before. 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:46.080 Andy Dalton likes to throw the tight end. He's proven that. Um. 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.120 But now with the new system, I mean, who knows, 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.239 Like you said that the Rams, he was in the 0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.640 RAM system. Uh the coach was in the RAM system 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.759 and they just didn't throw to the tight end. And 0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.200 now is that they don't really have good tight ends 0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.880 or what it is. But uh, Ifford as a guy 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.440 that he's a dart throw but but could be a 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.480 huge kind of like last round pick up, Greg, Please 0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.560 don't kill me for saying this, but I'll throw the 0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.000 name out there. There was three wide receivers in the Rams. 0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.000 We've mentioned two wide receivers to the Bengals, John Ross. 0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:19.440 Can he be the of the Bengals offense. I'll just 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.239 throw it out there. I'll throw it out there. Look, 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:22.879 he has the pedigree. He was a top ten pick. 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:26.080 Did he deserve to go that high? Probably not. He's 0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.600 someone who you know, wowed everybody because of what he 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:30.319 was able to do in terms of his forty time 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.080 and he tested well. He hasn't been able to do anything. 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.880 I'll just I'll just throw his name out there. In 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.080 deep leagues, you know, there are leagues where you'll go 0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.520 twenty rounds deep. There's leagues that you go deeper than that. 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.600 In leagues like that, will you draft like six seven 0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.839 wide receivers. Just remember John Ross's name in case they 0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:52.320 finally get anything out of him in three wide receiver sets. Already, 0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.640 let's move on to the Cleveland Grounds, who had quite 0:36:55.719 --> 0:37:01.080 these sexy off season here, acquiring Odell Beckham, firing Kareem Hunt. 0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:04.040 So there's a lot to digest here. Let me begin 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.600 with Odell Beckham Jr. He finally, somehow he's not playing 0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.160 with his best friend of the world, Jarvis Landry, which 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.680 could screw up Jarvis Landry's value. But Frank, we have 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.440 this discussion yesterday during the Action Hour because O'Dell was 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.120 in the news again. But when he's on the field, 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.240 he's his talented as any wide receiver in the NFL. 0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.520 Problem is he hasn't been on the field all that 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.400 much the last couple of years. But he is a 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.960 game changer, a guy that can finish as the number 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.960 one wide receiver in the NFL. Where are you drafting 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.400 Odell Beckham Jr. This year? I don't have a problem 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.960 with his current ADP going in that you know, early 0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.480 to mid second round range. As of right now, his 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.479 ADP is thirteen point nine in the NFFC, so really 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.480 closer to the start of the second round. UM, I 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.520 put out a poll before the show asking you know, 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.640 in that range, which wide receiver would you want most, 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.719 and it included Odell Beckham, juju Smith, Schuster, and now 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.600 Tyreek Hill because he will not be suspended. So far, 0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:00.200 fifty two votes and forty percent say Odell Becca him. 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:02.880 I think I would actually rather go with either of 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:06.000 the other two, Judice Smith, ju Juice Smith, Schuster and 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.960 Tyreek Hill. There's no doubt how talented Odell Beckham is 0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.439 since when he's joined the league he is top five 0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:17.880 in targets, receptions, receiving yards, receiving touchdowns. And that's with 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:21.240 all the games that he's missed. But again, he's missed 0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:25.840 sixteen games over the past two seasons. UM, we know 0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.480 that when he's on the field, he's a target monster. 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.279 He was with the Giants, he should be so again 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:32.120 with the Cleveland Browns. What they gave up to try 0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.400 and obviously acquire him here and Baker Mayfield is a 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:39.319 much much better quarterback than Eli Manning, so I see 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.000 what the upside is I just think that he has 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.120 a little bit more downside in terms of the injuries. Well, 0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:45.640 I mean when you turn when you talk about using 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:47.520 an early second round pick, you really have to split 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.680 hairs here. I just really like Juju Smith Schuster's situation 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.200 this year, and obviously Tyreek Hill everything that's going on 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.239 with him. Look, if he's on the field, we know 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:57.080 that he's going to be one of the five best 0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.279 wide receivers in football and for fantasy football. So I 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.000 just trust those guys a little bit more. If somebody 0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.279 wanted to take Odell Beckham earlier, I can't really argue 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.120 with him. I'm just a little bit more worried about 0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.279 the injuries that he's had. What about you, e y 0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.240 Odell Beckham Jr. As talented as any player in the league. 0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:15.799 Fright front of a great point, Juice Shoesters in this range, 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:20.680 Tyreek Hills in this range? Who first, Um, yeah, I 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:24.239 have I have Juju, then Hill, then then Beckham. That's 0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:28.360 the that that three in that order right now? Um, lookay, 0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:32.440 I mean Odell Beckham is a basket case. He's somebody 0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:37.080 that is hurt constantly. But we've never ever seen him 0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:40.239 play in an offense with this many weapons. And to me, 0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:43.480 when you put a guy of his skill set in 0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.200 an offense that's going to move the ball, they're going 0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.360 to you know, they're going to the they're going to 0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.400 run place quickly, they're going to have a high volume, 0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.640 and you can't just double and triple team him all 0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.480 the time because of Landry, because of n Joku, because 0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.440 of uh Chubb. You mean, like, these are things that 0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:02.800 that you all have to think about in Baker Mayfield 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:05.399 is the best quarterback that he's played. Look at Eli 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.239 Manning as it was maybe not now, but it was 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:12.400 a good quarterback. But Beckham's never really had a bunch 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:16.160 of weapons around him to pull coverage. So it's I'm 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.640 excited to see where the Cleveland Browns are this year. 0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:20.960 I think the NFL is a better league when the 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.920 Cleveland Browns are good. Um. I know, like last year 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.160 with the hype and and then you know, kind of 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.120 pouring it on mid season with the coaching change and stuff, 0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:33.759 made the NFL interesting. Um And Uh, O b J 0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:38.320 is definitely interesting, very much. Is interesting. What about on 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.680 the other side, O b J. What about Jarvis Landry, 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:46.200 He's best friend in the world. Now Jervis Landry on 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:48.759 its terrible Dolphins team and he racked with the receptions. 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:51.920 You're the most better Browns team. Now. Theoretically, the better 0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:55.720 quarterback with a better wide receiver next to him should 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.160 be good, I think, But people are addling this guy 0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:02.120 this year. How come Jarvis Landry has been a volume 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.920 dependent wide receiver who needs a ton of targets to 0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:09.279 meet his fantasy value. He's been a reception monster, but 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.480 in order to get those receptions, he needs the targets. 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:15.279 And last year, when we saw in the second half 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.400 of the season when Freddie Kittens took over a calling 0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.200 plays for the Cleveland Browns, the same Freddy Kitchens that 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.880 will be calling plays this season for the Cleveland Browns, 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:26.520 we saw Jarvis Landry's targets dropped from the first eight 0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.839 games eleven point six targets per game the final eight 0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:33.440 games with Freddie Kitchens calling plays six point nine targets 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.960 per game. His receptions went from six point one to 0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:39.400 four per game, and his yardage went down ten yards 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.080 per game. That was for Jarvis Slndry. That was even 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.120 before Odell Beckham was in the mix. Here in Odell Beckham, 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.920 someone whose average ten point five targets per game in 0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:51.040 his career, He's never had a season below a twenty 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:55.200 five percent targets share. It's just to me, Jarvis Landry, 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.400 someone who has never had less than a hundred and 0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.279 thirty one targets in his career, in each of the 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:05.480 past four seasons, he's likely closer to that one fifteen 0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:08.279 target range. And because of that, I don't really think 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.360 that he's gonna come close to what he's done in 0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:12.560 years past. Now, I will say this, I think Ey 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.520 brought up a good point that there are a ton 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:17.200 of weapons on this team. So if someone's trying to 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.720 double team Modell Beckham, that's going to leave Jarvis Landry 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:22.800 opened over the middle, and you know he should be 0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:26.000 able to make the most of his opportunity. But again, 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:29.440 I just think the lack of target share that he's 0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.080 used to seeing as the number one wide receiver pretty 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.359 much wherever he's been in his career. I think that's 0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.239 really really going to affect his fantasy output this season. Greig, Yeah, 0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.280 I I think that makes sense. I think Jarvis Landry 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.279 is in a role that we don't know yet, is 0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:45.759 in a position that we don't really know yet it's 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:47.680 going to be different. The volume is not going to 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.800 be there, like you said, there's too many other guys, 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.880 like you said, and I think that unknown makes fantasy 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:57.080 owners fearful here you way. I mean, I guess it 0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.799 isn't real fear. Like he he has always been known 0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:02.520 as a volume guy, um, because he's played on teams 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.600 where there was no other people to throw the ball 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.800 to him, Like when he played in Miami. He was 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:11.520 the best player on the team last year. I mean 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:15.480 you had Hollywood Higgins and and you know, like guys 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.680 that that were decent, and then Joe who was wasn't 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.120 what he's going to be this year, I believe. So 0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.080 I think probably the volume goes down, but the quality 0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.960 of targets and the room around him and single coverage 0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.800 is going to be very helpful for him. I believe 0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:34.359 that he's really good after the catch, um and could 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.960 be a dangerous guy. I mean, you have to respect 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:40.799 Odell Beckham no matter what. There's gotta be one guy 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.360 on him with safety help over the top on almost 0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.560 every play. That's going to open up the middle of 0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:47.439 the field, that's going to open up the other side, 0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.759 and that's where uh, that's where Jarvis Landry is gonna live. 0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:52.800 So I feel like the volume does go down, but 0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.000 the quality I don't know if there's a word for that, 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.920 but the quality of his catches and targets I think 0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.800 will be much much higher. And that's the case for 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.200 Jarvis Landry. And you know I mentioned that as well. 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.800 I I agree like there obviously you can make a 0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.200 case for and against pretty much any player that we're 0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.640 going to talk about. I im more so lean towards 0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.040 the case against him just because of the lack of 0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:16.399 volume that that Jarvis Landry is going to see this year. 0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.520 But that is the case for Jarvis Landry. And you 0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.680 know when we did the uh we did our top 0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:24.400 Fantasy football bus for the for the vandal hurry up, Greg. I. 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.520 You know, I had Jervis Landry as one of my 0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.480 bust heading into the season, and somebody tweeted at me 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:33.120 and made that exact case that even on less volume, 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.480 he'll be much more productive on a per target basis. 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.560 Is that something that you can get behind if you 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.840 want to draft Jarvis Landry this season. Yeah, So I 0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:46.000 think if you go into the draft wanting to draft him, yes, 0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.800 he's going to have more open opportunities because he's not 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:51.520 going to be the guy that the Jarry the defense 0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:55.320 targets at all. Absolutely, I think that's realistic. But the 0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.120 problem that we've seen with Jarvis Landry, not you're in 0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.040 in era out because it's been some years where it 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:03.200 wasn't the case, has been the red zone production. No doubt, 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.040 does that change this year. I don't see why it 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.840 would in terms of scoring touchdowns right Udell Beckham is 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.080 going to demand so many targets on the field, so 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.839 is Koku as well, just because he's such a big 0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:18.359 body and a freak athlete. It just doesn't really make 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:22.080 much sense for you know, unless he's wide open, and 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:23.920 then of course, yeah, fine throwing the ball in the 0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.520 red zone, I get it. But if that's not the case, 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:30.960 it just seems like there's the other personnel packages players 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.000 around him. In terms of Beckham and David and Joku, 0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:37.759 seemed like they might be better utilized in that area 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:39.799 of the field in the red zone. So I would 0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:41.320 agree with that as well. I think, you know, obviously 0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.799 you have concerns about the volume and the targets is here, Greg, 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.560 but touchdowns have pretty much always been an issue when 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.480 it comes to Jarvis Heinrich. All right, so let's take 0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:50.640 a break. We're to come back. We'll get into David 0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:52.759 and Joku a bit and then on the other side 0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:54.239 to start the hour. And he all wants to hang on. 0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.120 Of course he's welcome. We'll get in the Cream Hunt 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.400 and Nick Chum and the running in bicker Mayfield as well. 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.799 A lot more to come with the Cleveland Brown's stick 0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:11.600 around from the NFL to the NBA. Daily Rodo dot 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.120 Com is the place to win millions in daily Fantasy. 0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.800 You can get the best DFS NFL coverage all season 0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:20.319 long for a price of one, or dominate the entire 0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:24.279 Daily Fantasy Sports realm with the Elite package at month. 0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:26.520 If you use the promo code f n t s Y, 0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.480 you get ten percent off your Daily Rodo package. 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The problem with for me guys With 0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:25.120 David to Joku, he said, there's just there's not enough 0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:28.560 targets to go around in this offense. He's gonna have 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:32.280 his really good games, did you have his really crap 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.400 games too? And I think ultimately you'd be more frustrated 0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:38.080 than anything else if you draft Davena Joko. Yeah, I 0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:39.879 think that makes a lot of sense. He finishes tight 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.560 end nine last season. But after the top five tight 0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.239 ends last year, the scoring went way down. It was 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.280 a huge drop off after Jared Cook. Those guys basically 0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.719 from tight end six on were guys that you were 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:53.880 streaming for most of the year, and if you use 0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:55.759 them weekend and week out more often than not, as 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:58.920 Greg mentioned, you were let down. His targets went up 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.399 to eighty eight last year. Yards went up to six 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:03.560 thirty nine. His catch right went up to sixty three 0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:06.160 point six. Still has some issues with drops. He has 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:09.920 all the physical tools in the world. The guy tested incredibly, 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.719 incredibly well coming out of college, but he still has 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.040 to continue to work on his hands, get better as 0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.160 a route runner and a as a receiver at the 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.920 tight end position. I scored three of his four touchdowns 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.480 in those final eight games once Freddie Kitchens took over 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.759 as the play caller. So maybe you hang your hat 0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:27.439 on that a little bit that you know Freddie Kitchens 0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.680 used him a little bit more here. Um, he's probably 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:33.160 someone I would target if I obviously I want one 0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:35.520 of the top five guys. And then you know, you 0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.000 look at like Jared Cook and Vance McDonald's a popular 0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:40.399 breakout once you miss out on those guys. I think 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:41.920 David and Joke, who is probably right in that mix. 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:44.000 I don't have a problem with his ADP. Yeah, I 0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:46.920 think he's fine for me. It's like, it's whatever, I 0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.000 don't really want him. I like, I agree with you 0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:50.560 on that. Like if I take him, I would have 0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.320 to get another tight end later on. Who has upside? 0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:56.080 Someone like a Noah fan or a Mark Andrews. Someone 0:48:56.160 --> 0:49:03.800 like that, Greg, turn your mic foe, Eric, give it 0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:06.239 a Joe in a in a moment? Are you why you? Who? 0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:11.080 Stick around? Yeah? Awesome? All right, I'm taking Greg's guying. 0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:15.160 It's the Fantasy BFS here on the Fantasy Sports Network. 0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:26.440 Will be back with our two up next. I couldn't 0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:29.840 catch the live show, make sure the download our podcast 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:31.920 at the v n T S Y Sports Network Audio 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:32.879 Boom channel. Oh