1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Volume Podcast Network. 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm Chad Millman of the Action Network. I'm alive from 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: my Tell Me John Holmes Studio, and I'm joined as 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: always by my co host, my companion, my compadre, my BFF, 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: professional Better Signmon Hunter and U. 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: So I'm in Chad. Is it a new year, new Chad? 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: Or is it same old Chad? 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: I love myself. Why would I want to change? I 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: feel great, I feel optimistic. I feel like my New 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Year's resolution. Every year I have won New Year's resolution. 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: Live up to my potential. That's all I'm going to 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: try to do every day, try to do something to 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: make sure I'm living to the fullest of my potential. 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: And if you do that every day day, then at 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: the end of the year, you can look back and 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: say you've achieved great things. Could be as a parent, 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: as a spouse, as a career journey, as a health journey, 19 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: whatever it is. So I don't want to change a thing. 20 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm fucking doing great. How about you? 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: It's good man, I'm literally the total opposite of you. 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: I've learned in life. If you don't try it all. 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: That's the only way to succeed. So yeah, God bless you, Chad. 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: It's so funny how different we are. If you listed 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: sort of your traits, how you approach life, how you 26 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: see people, how you view the world, and the same 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: things for me, people would think you're the old guy 28 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: and I'm the young guy, and that you've seen it all, 29 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: your world weary, that you have a perspective that comes 30 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: from years and years and decades of hard fought experiences, 31 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: and I'm just like the irrational optimist who hasn't been 32 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: beaten down by the world yet. 33 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: So hour perfect for one another. 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It's never ordinary. 53 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: A bet three six y five must be twenty one 54 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: or older presenton Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, North Carolina, 55 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia or eighteen year older in Kentucky. 56 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: Gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler or one eight 57 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: hundred bets off in Iowa terms. Conditions restrictions apply. Okay, 58 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: it's my favorite segment. I saw someone the other day 59 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: last week. Someone said to me, you know what. My 60 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: favorite segment on the show is sharp Calls. So as 61 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: always on Thursday during the season, we like to hear 62 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: how the wise guys are responding to our Tuesday conversation. 63 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: We are influential lines move off of these conversations, pros 64 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: feel compelled to weigh in on our opinions. Simon, let's 65 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: do sharp calls. 66 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: Hello, who's there? I'm talking Rain. 67 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: Rain telephone range. 68 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Somebody said, baby, want you do man? 69 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a fun week with all the I feel 70 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: like it's a week of just opinions, right, people making 71 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: opinions and then kind of making moves based off of 72 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: the coach's opinions. Right. That's that's the other thing too. 73 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: It's like this week you're really locked in on all 74 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: the stupid coaches press conferences and you're trying to read 75 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: through the lines of what they're saying here, and let's 76 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: start on what sides the pros on the opposite side 77 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: of us. So Chad likes the Chargers. I like the Chargers. 78 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: They love the Raiders, Like every Prod've talked to you 79 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: loves the Raiders on the spot, and I'm not. I 80 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: don't get it chat. So that's the game. We have 81 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: to break down because I really don't understand what they're 82 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 2: getting from this Raiders side and that they see the 83 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: Chargers having a letdown here, not trying or maybe resting starters. 84 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: This harball strike you as that guy at all. I 85 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: just do not get what they're reading here in this one. 86 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: We've got intel on this and this sounds like it's 87 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: going to be a foxil. 88 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, just one that really popped out to me. Just 89 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: how many guys I talked to that were on the 90 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: other side of that one for another game that I 91 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: think that I talked about it on Tuesday, that I 92 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: really liked Minnesota and that I was gonna probably most 93 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: likely bet heavily on Minnesota plus three. I talked to 94 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: a lot of pros that love Detroit. So that's a 95 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: really fun split game. There's some really smart money on 96 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: Detroit and for good reason. Right it's a proven team 97 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: that's been there before, and what's going to feel like 98 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: a playoff game against Sam Darnold. Like I get their 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: perspective that they think he's gonna choke and they trust 100 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: Golf and they want to put their money behind a 101 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: guy like Golf like can't argue against it right. So 102 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: that was another one that really jumped out for two 103 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: games that I'm on the other side of for games 104 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: they like that, we like Chad Bengals. I know a 105 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: game we're gonna break down. You know, most guys I 106 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: talked here on the same side of us with the Bengals, 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: Sam goes for this Jaguars game, we love it. Got 108 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: up to plus five and a couple of books. Now it's 109 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: down to plus four and a half plus four a 110 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: couple of books. So it makes sense the smart money's 111 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: come in. And obviously Darling, I should have taken I 112 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: should have listened to chat, should have made Simon says 113 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: the Giants. I don't know a single pro right now 114 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: that's on this Eagles team. It just feels like the 115 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: exact type of game where Eagles not that they want 116 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: to lose, but the coach has already come out and 117 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: basically said that they're sitting in a bunch of key 118 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: starters and it's most likely going to be the third 119 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: string quarterback playing in this game. So yeah, very very 120 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: interesting how much money's coming to the Giants. They were 121 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: plus three and a half before Syriana came out and 122 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: said he's sitting Saquan and a bunch of starters. So 123 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: that number now Chad is down to two two and 124 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: a half. Like I said, I wish I had made it. 125 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: Simon says for the last one again, me and you love. 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how much. Actually I don't know how 127 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: much Tad love is. I just love it. I love Tennessee. 128 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: Every probably talk you loves Tennessee in this exact spot. 129 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: So that's going to be Joe Public on Houston. Only 130 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: professionals are going to bet Tennessee, who are two and 131 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: fourteen against the spread. So makes sense when I'm talking 132 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: to these guys why no one loves this Tennessee side. 133 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I freaking love it. A couple of games you pinpointed 134 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: here that I'm very excited to talk about. Definitely the Chargers. 135 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Definitely Tennessee. And there's a couple others too that I 136 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: want to get to. But it feels like there is 137 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: a Foxhtle bet there that sometimes it's harder to figure 138 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: these out, but I think we know which one it's 139 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: going to be. We'll also do our Big Balls Buffalo 140 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: at New England. So this one has moved from three 141 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: to two and a half. The drama, and you talked 142 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: about it the other day about the Patriots and fans 143 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: hating the Patriots. It's so interesting because there is a 144 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: lot of speculation here in the Northeast and in New 145 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: England about Drodmeo. Will the Patriots walk away from Gerard 146 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: Mayo after one year? The Crafts personally anointed him as 147 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: the Bill Belichick successor while Bill Belichick was still the coach. 148 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel is now available. Rabel has beloved. Rabel is 149 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: a proven head coach who has had great results. We 150 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: love Rabel as a coach, especially when he's an underdog. 151 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: That to me is always the sign of a good coach, 152 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: as you can cover and you can win. So as 153 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: an underdog, would they bounce Mayo for Rabel? Rael Mayo 154 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: this week has said Drake may is starting, They're going 155 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: to play to win. They have the number one pick 156 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: if they lose. Line has moved to two and a half. 157 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I could get why Patrisons be so pissed off. 158 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: It's like, don't you see what we're trying to do here. 159 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: I get why they're so mad about it, But that 160 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: conversation about them not picking up Rabel just because relationships 161 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 2: and what they believe in. You know, Mayo might be 162 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: a good guy all that. You know, you know when 163 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: you know, right, like you know when a guy is 164 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: a legit coach and when they're not, and you know, 165 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: you can just tell why the plage react him. And 166 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 2: I remember earlier in the year he was just talking 167 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 2: about them being soft and not playing hard and different 168 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: things like that, which again wouldn't be a big deal, 169 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: but he's saying it to the media like that was 170 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: one of the more bizarre interviews. And you know, anyone 171 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: that loves football like we do, they know Vrabel's a 172 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: better coach. Come on, now, the guy took a Ryan 173 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: Tannehill corpse to be the one seat. Like that really 174 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: happened in the AFC, which is just mind blowing you 175 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: look back on it. I was able to get that 176 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: team to be a one seat. So yeah, the question is, Chad, 177 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: do we want to bet on Mitchrubisky here in our 178 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: final five? That's that's gonna end up end questioning because 179 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: we know even with their backups and non starters in there. 180 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: I just trust the Bills coaching staff, their scheme, what 181 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: they can do, more so than I trust New England 182 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: and this line warrants that, right, that makes sense that 183 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: they're still a minus two and a half minus two 184 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: and a half minus three favorite of most books. But yeah, 185 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: like this is another game where me and you obviously 186 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: don't like betting favorites. This is not the line. Like 187 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: there's a lot of dogs. I just like this week, 188 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 2: so I'll be on Buffalo, But it's not a game 189 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 2: I'm forcunate in there. I just think they're the better team, 190 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: and I really wish someone would just explain it. You know, 191 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: Mayo that if you win this game, you could get fired, 192 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: Like I do think the noise would be turned up 193 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: by the fan base. I don't know if Kraft could 194 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: avoid that, because it's it's inexcusable to start may here 195 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: in my opinion, especially the ship, the hits he's been taking, 196 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: Like he got his bell rung last week and he 197 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: came right back in. I think the first play he 198 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: was in he ran down the field, which is awesome, 199 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: like shows he's got art and he's a tough kid. 200 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: But at the same time, what's what are we doing here? 201 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: Like are we really gonna waste this kid in this 202 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: type of game where I just I'm just so against it. 203 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, from from the betting side Chat two and 204 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: a half, I'll bet the Bills, but with very small confidence. 205 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: We're betting in misrubisky. 206 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Crafts have just lost a lot of credibility 207 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: with fans over the last twenty four months between the 208 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: documentary in which it seemed like Bob Kraft was throwing 209 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Belichick under the boss. Sticking with Mayo in this spot 210 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: just could be another blow to the confidence of fans 211 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: and the ownership group. Nothing's going to change, It's not 212 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: like they're going to get rid of the team, but 213 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: this is a real chance for them to make a 214 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: substantial move to improve their organization, especially if the Patriots 215 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: win this game and lose the first pick. Oh my gosh, 216 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: Houston and Tennessee. For seventeen weeks, Simon, we have avoided 217 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: the Titans. It might be our greatest success. They have 218 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: shown value against power ranking power rankings in nearly every 219 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: game they've played. In fourteen of those games you alluded 220 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: to this, they did not cover this spread. No matter 221 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: what happens in this game, they will go down as 222 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: the worst against the spread team since we've been tracking this. 223 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Maybe in NFL history. Evan can confirm that later in 224 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: the show, they're currently two and fourteen in week eighteen. Simon, 225 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: they are our Simon says, and now we got word 226 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: that the wise guys are all over the Titans. Give 227 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: it to me, weigh it on me. 228 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it is interesting when you're reading about what 229 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: the Texans are going to do in this spot and 230 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: who they are arresting. Obviously CJ is not playing this 231 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: a couple of key starters, Nico Collins isn't playing a 232 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: bunch of guys winners, says, not playing on the defense. 233 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: When you go on the flip side for Tennessee Titans, 234 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: everybody's playing like the coach. Not that he scoffed at 235 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: any but he kind of laughed. It's like, no, they're 236 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: about to get whatever you said, six month vacation after this, 237 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: not direct quote from him, but basically gave us a slanted, 238 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: like a little look to the reporter being like what 239 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: we yeah, exactly what kind of stupid question is that? 240 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: So we know the stats, right, Will Levis two and 241 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: nine against the spread, Mason Rudolph zero to five against 242 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: the spread this season, So it doesn't matter what quarterback 243 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: is playing This team is just all around bad. But 244 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 2: like we talked about, they're in this unique position of 245 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: people don't understand how desperate teams get for a win, 246 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: Like it's it's it's a different type of high, but 247 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: it's a high that they crave, right, It's it's something 248 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: that you just need it. Every week you lose, the 249 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: world looks a little darker, everything feels a little shittier. 250 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 2: Everything sucks, and you just know, especially they talk to 251 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: guys in the locker room, why they've been trying so 252 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: hard these last couple of weeks, because again they have 253 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: not been playing for anything Tennessee. But every week, even 254 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: though they've been losing, they still play really hard. I 255 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: really think that is something that like you turn on 256 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: the tape you can see it. I mean their defense, 257 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: like you've been talking all season. I know I laughed 258 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: at it, but their defense is like second or third 259 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: and giving up yards this season at least amount of yards, 260 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: like they've been really good at not teams not moving 261 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: the ball against them. The USUS have been right just 262 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: giving up touchdowns, like they can't stop teams, it seems 263 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: like in the red zone. So yeah, this is to 264 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: me is all about the number. There is one really 265 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: public book out that there still had Tennessee at plus 266 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: one and a half last night. Now even them have 267 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: moved to minus one. So even even at this point, 268 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: they've followed the professional money because I'm looking the action 269 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: app right now. All the tickets, all the tickets are 270 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: on Houston. But the money is basically split right, It's 271 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: it's it's slanted towards this Tennessee team. So yeah, would 272 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: have we would have liked it if they were a dog. Yes, 273 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: we definitely mean Chad hate lines that flip. It just 274 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: has never worked out for us for the most part. 275 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: But and this one, I feel confident that the smart 276 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: money is coming on the right side. The money is 277 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: moving the way it should. And there's another team Tennessee 278 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: that you know, if the Patriots win, they lose, they 279 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: could get the one seed. These guys don't care, like 280 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: they're like, like we just talked about the same thing 281 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: in New England, Like they're they're kind of going the 282 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: idea of we just want to win, and I get it. 283 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: That's that's part of football, right. No one cares about 284 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: the draft picks. They don't know if we be on 285 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: the team next year. So this Tennessee team, I just 286 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: I could see them trying really hard. On the flip 287 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: side with Houston, I just I'm happy to bet against 288 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: their second team. There's just a team that to me 289 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: was already back going to this game. The whole vibe 290 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: of Houston was bad. Now we're getting in their scrubs 291 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: for the second team. So I like Tennessee in this matchup. 292 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: Simon goes back to what I said at the beginning 293 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: of the show. People just want to live up to 294 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: their potential. They just want to try if they want 295 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: to feel satisfied with the effort. They want to go 296 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: to bed at night know that they gave it their 297 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: all and feel good that what they exercised during a 298 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: week paid off in some capacity. And the Titans have 299 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: just not felt that. And the Titans, from everything I've read, 300 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: I've been digging in, you know, reading all that I 301 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: can about coaching moves, GM moves, trying to get anything 302 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: about some incentive for this week, seems very likely that 303 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: the title they're going to bring back their GM, they're 304 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: going to bring back their coach, and they're going to 305 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: try to find the quarterback that the three of them 306 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: together can build this franchise as they they're really thinking about. 307 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: They got a new stadium opening in two years, how 308 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: can they get better. They're going to give that team 309 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: the opportunity and that executive team the opportunity to turn 310 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: this thing around and get the right player. They don't 311 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: have to worry about sort of tanking or not playing 312 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: up to the best of their ability. Agree, I'm with you. 313 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Another one, Jacksonville at Indy. Still the 314 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: word on Anthony Richardson. So when you see the reports 315 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: about him that he couldn't walk last week, yeah you 316 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: couldn't Yeah a week and well yeah, like so. But 317 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: they're still saying if he is healthy, he'll playing. But 318 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: like we we lean Jags, I think we feel strongly 319 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: about it, more strongly about it this week or now 320 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: than we did on Tuesday. To me, it's more of 321 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: a vibe than anything on the field, right. Jags have 322 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: been trying hard, they've been keeping games close. Mac Jones 323 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: has been outperforming bad quarterbacks. They won, and the Colts 324 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: culturally just feel like they're a little bit lost. And 325 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: I think that game took the wind out of them 326 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: and is raising a lot of questions about will Shane 327 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: Steiken still be there. What is their future at quarterback? 328 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: What is happening with their GM who you mentioned the 329 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: other day, Chris Ballard has a reputation as a great 330 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: GM has not won the division in eight years, a 331 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: division that has terrible teams year in and year out. 332 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: This is not the NFC north of twenty twenty four. 333 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: So they are locked into Trevor Lawrence as their quarterback. 334 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: Draft position is not going to mean as much for them. 335 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: Normal based on last week's performance, we'd fade the Jags 336 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: and want to bit the Colts. But I don't feel 337 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: that way this week. 338 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: No, And honestly it's because it is the Colts that 339 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: the Jags they historically have matched up really well them. 340 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: It was just like we talked about last week with 341 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: the Egos and Cowboys. There's just certain teams that teams 342 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: can match up really well against. And that same goes 343 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: here for this Jacks team that they've always even when 344 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: there's you know, ups and downs with the quarterbacks of 345 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: their quarterbacks hurt, they've always played really well against this 346 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: Colts team and kept games close and usually their games 347 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: end up being shootouts, like especially when it's in Indianapolis. 348 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: So this to me is all about the number, Like 349 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: its number is way too big, way too much. Respective 350 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: even if it is Anthony Richardson, I could see it 351 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 2: dropping because I just think the books give more respect 352 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: to Joe Flacco. But you know, four and a half 353 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: for way too many points for us to pass them. 354 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: Like I love this number. I love this Jacks team 355 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: and what we just talked about, Like I just the 356 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: vibes for this Jacks team just feels so much better. 357 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: We're like that I'm going in and winning this game. 358 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: That makes more sense to me, so much more than 359 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: the Colts winning this game. Colts to me, like they're 360 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: they're done. Like half their team feels like they're already 361 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: half foot out the door and they're ready to go 362 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: on vacation. They're just disgusted with the front office, they're 363 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: disgusted with the coaching. And you know, that was one 364 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: of the least prepared teams I've seen all season last 365 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 2: week against that Giants team, Like even going back watching 366 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: the tape, just defensively, Gus Bradley was just awful. Like, again, 367 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: that's a man that's guaranteed to be let go and 368 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: on a different team. Next year. So yeah, we're just 369 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: simply playing the number year Chad like the match for 370 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: this Jags team and just the way they've been down 371 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: the stretcher, it's just a team that has not quit. 372 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: Surprisingly they've improved in some ways. And I know the 373 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: dirty secrets kind of is out right now that Doug 374 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: Peterson's basically gone and they're gonna have the guy I 375 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: know you want, Ben Johnston from Lions and they're apparently 376 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: gonna give him just whatever he wants, which is really 377 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: interesting to know. Will he leave the division NFC North 378 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: and go down there where it's like I don't know. Again, 379 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 2: he's all line up perfectly for the Bears, where it's like, 380 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: you guys are getting the guy who knows the Detroit 381 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: offense and how to take down the big bad wolf 382 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: for your division. Him going to him and going to 383 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: the Jags would be buried the Bears. The Bears just 384 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: don't spend enough money or give him enough to do 385 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: whatever he wants. And he leaves to go to Jacksonville 386 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: just because if they're gonna let him make decisions on 387 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: the draft, that's a big deal. Like first time at coach. 388 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: Now he gets to make decision on the draft as well. 389 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, for Jacksonville. We all know that these players, 390 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: they seem like they like Doug Pearson. One more, one 391 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: more game for Dougie give them. Give me plus four 392 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: and a half on this Jaguars team. 393 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Simon, I one hund believe that Ben Johnson is going 394 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: to the Jags. I don't think. I don't think the 395 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: Bears have a shot right now. You know, I don't 396 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: have any insight, but just knowing the Bears history, knowing 397 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: how the Bears manage the coaching interview process, knowing that 398 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: they have not been able to overcome, knowing the coaches 399 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: have not been able to come overcome over ownership issues 400 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: in multiple generations. Other than Mike Dicka. 401 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: John Fox, he's the last one. 402 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: Now. Lovey Smith took him to the Super Bowl. 403 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, love was great now and he got 404 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: fired in the worst way. Right. They have bad Karmer 405 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: from that fire, and of Lovey. 406 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: The Bears fired a coach. You took him to the 407 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and was ten and six the year he 408 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: was fired. Yeah, so they've got they've I think they've 409 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: got executive staff dysfunction, right, because we don't really know 410 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: how involved. Kevin Warren is going to be the new president. 411 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: The president in any of these decisions, they've always been cheap. 412 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: You can go to the AFC South if you like 413 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. That's the one critical factor. Ben Johnson has 414 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: to like what he has in Trevor Lawrence. Right, the 415 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: Jags are invested in him. We don't think he's been 416 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: that great. He has underperformed. But if you like him 417 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: and think he can run your offense, you got a 418 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: better chance in winning than you do in the NFC 419 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: North over the next three to four years. And that's 420 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: your horizon as a coach. So would not be surprised 421 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: at all if he blew off the Bears and went 422 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: to Florida where it's warm and you don't pay taxes, 423 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: and you know you got a better shot. 424 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: Though, what's that I keep going, I don't hear you. 425 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 1: Said before we get to Washington at Dallas. These are 426 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: the final days of our favorite pick'em contest. Saturday games 427 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: are not in the contest this week, but we've got 428 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: d Winsenburg in first place with sixty one points and 429 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: nine entries at fifty six points or more. A dog 430 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: fight to the finish First place is forty grand, second 431 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: is ten grand, Third place is five grand. Cash prizes 432 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: for the whole top ten. Excited to crown a winner. 433 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: It's not going to be us. Hopefully we get the 434 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: winner on the podcast, whoever it is. The invite is 435 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: open Washington at Dallas. We lean Dallas on Tuesday. The 436 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: line has moved in that direction. It's four and a half. 437 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Did you see the clip of Eagles fans cheering Jerry 438 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: Jones in Philly last week? 439 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, ultimate troll job, so. 440 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: Good and Jerry's just smiling, laughing, you know, just so funny. 441 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: Just great to see Jerry owning it all. I think 442 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: it's better than fifty to fifty. Mike McCarthy stays. If 443 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: it's Jerry Jones's choice, he might leave because his contract 444 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: is up and he can go look anywhere he wants 445 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: to look. But fascinating subplot here. I do think there's 446 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: been a sea change and sort of people believing McCarthy 447 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: will stay if he has the option and Jerry Jones 448 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: wants him to and he decides that's the best option 449 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: for him. If he leaves, it might be because he 450 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: wants to leave. I don't think that has an impact 451 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: on this game. I just thought it was interesting. 452 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a chef. He talked about how basically 453 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: all of his assistants US assistance as well or deals 454 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: are done, so he'd basically need to re sign all 455 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: the guys on his coaching staff. So yeah, it's as 456 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 2: an Eagles fan, I kind of want them to bring 457 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: McCarthy back, just because I fear the unknown that if 458 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 2: they do get a guy like Vrabel, that would be 459 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: disastrous for us. But yeah, it's Jerry's in a weird 460 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: spot and this Cowboys team is in a weird spot 461 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: where it's like me and you both love it because 462 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: of the number and the letdown we expect from Washington 463 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: in this exact game. But this is another game I'm 464 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: betting with very little confidence just because my fear is this, 465 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: this Cowboys team is basically just on their last leg. 466 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: Like they have guys who've had big injuries, they've come back, 467 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: they've played through it at this point, but you can 468 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: just tell that, like even that Eagles game, they just 469 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: were not They were not into that game at all. 470 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 2: So this is gonna be another game where the public 471 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: is going through hammer the Commanders. We'll see if they 472 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: get lucky again, Chad, because this is again another good 473 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: number against a team that's overvalued in the Commanders. And 474 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: you know, we've seen it all season, like the fourth 475 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: down variants for the Commanders has just been absolutely insane. 476 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: I think in that game we bet, I don't know 477 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: if they went three for three or two for two, 478 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: but it felt like every time they needed a big 479 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: play on fourth down, it happened for him. And you 480 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: know it's historical, the the sex sex rate they've had 481 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 2: on fourth downs. It's just insane this season. So we 482 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: know what this BET's gonna come down to. It's gonna 483 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: come down to fourth downs again. It's just it's just 484 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: how it's been betting against this Washington team. If they capitalize, 485 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: me and Chatter most likely gonna burn. But this is 486 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: just a number that's way too big, Like I think 487 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: i'd probably if this was a fully healthy with Ceedee Lamb. 488 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: You know again, obviously this is different if Dak's playing, 489 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: but if it's ce d Lamb with Cooper Rush, Okay, 490 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: we make this what three three and a half? Yeah, 491 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: the point the point bump makes sense, right, there should 492 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: be four four and a half at this point, but 493 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: it's just a spot where it's you know, we've seen 494 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: the storical data, the teams that are playing for playoff 495 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: positions going against a team that you know, way below 496 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: five hundred, that have not been good this year, they 497 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: tend to cover in this week. That's why we love 498 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: betting these type of dogs in the final week of 499 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: the season. Just historically we've seen it, right, teams kind 500 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: of play up to the moment, try to be the spoiler. Obviously, 501 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: they're not going to knock Washington out of the playoffs here, 502 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: but if they do beat them, you know, Washington now 503 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: is go face Philly. That's that's a big deal. So 504 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: pretty pretty interesting what the Cowboys might do. Hear everything 505 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: I've read, it seems like, you know, Michael Parson is playing, 506 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: all their starters are playing. The only guy really missing 507 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: is going to be CD. Obviously. 508 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this Commander's defense is terrible. And I'm not 509 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: afraid of betting Cooper Rush as a four and a 510 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: half point dog in this spot. Even without CD. He's 511 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: just been an effective backup quarterback and the Eagles have 512 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: been the one team that he really can't right unlock right, 513 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: And you look at the other games and I think 514 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: that the problem for this year is that his first 515 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: game was against the Eagles and it was so bad 516 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: that it depressed the market and the Cowboys, and I 517 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: think a lot of people have missed the value because 518 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 1: they're only thinking about that first Eagles game. And then 519 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: he started to play a little bit better and they 520 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: had to run, and then this past week he hit 521 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: the Eagles again, And now I think the Commanders are 522 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: overvalued because of what they did against the Falcons, but 523 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: also what the Cowboys did against the Eagles. I still 524 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: think you're getting pretty nice price. And the Cowboys here, 525 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be in our 526 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: final five, but I'm not as afraid of the Cowboys 527 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: in this spot as you are, or the Commanders for 528 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: that matter. I think their defense is pretty bad. 529 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: And I just went not to cut you off. On Tennessee, 530 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: that line's running now, so basically everywhere that had them 531 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 2: as a dog basically has them up to minus one 532 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: and a half now. So oh wow, Yeah, the money, 533 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: the money started to come in now here on Tennessee. 534 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: All right, Carolina at Atlanta. 535 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: One more time. 536 00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: It's time to celebrate. Look, Carolina plus eight, we both 537 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: love the Panthers. On Tuesday, I would imagine we still 538 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: love the Panthers. The lines move from eight and a 539 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: half to eight. We cannot quit the Panthers right now, Simon. 540 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: To remind people of the stakes. If the Bucks win, 541 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: they're in. The Bucks lose then and the Falcons win, 542 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: they're in. The games are at one o'clock, there will 543 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: be some scoreboard watching if it's at any point. Bucks 544 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: are blowing out the Saints and there's no chance the 545 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: Falcons are going to get in. The tide in this 546 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: game could change, we could find the back door, but 547 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: generally we just like Bryce Young, We're going to continue 548 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: to back Bryce Young. Give us the Falcon, give us 549 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers. 550 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't quit them. And honestly, and my confidence 551 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: in this one has been coming from the breakdown of Pennix. 552 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: And I know, again it's only two games, it's a 553 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: very small sample. I get that, but it's actually pretty 554 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: interesting statistically, how you know, I might have overrated them 555 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: a little bit through his first game, and that he 556 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: actually isn't that great of a passer right now, and 557 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: he's still kind of working three things which we expect, 558 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: right It's it's his second now this will be his 559 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: third start. So that's that's a lot of the confidence 560 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: to me is that you know, this is a huge 561 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: spread for a guy like him. And we saw in 562 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: that Giants game, right that they were kind of losing 563 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: that fighting, they couldn't find themselves and all of a sudden, 564 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: you know, drew through a pick six and that kind 565 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: of reset that whole game where Okay, once they got 566 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: the lead again, they can lean back onto the running. 567 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: So that would be the key for me. It's like, 568 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: can they stop Robinson, which no one has done in 569 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: the last ten weeks, right, Like, Robinson has barbably been 570 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: a top three running back now this season and he's 571 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: been dominant and we know me and Chad no, because 572 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: we've been betting them all season. Panthers cannot stop the run, 573 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: like their best. 574 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: One hundred yards rushing aloud in five straight weeks. 575 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: Right. So again, it's because when their best d lineman 576 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: got knocked out either week one or Week two, and 577 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: it was like okay for the season. Yeah, yeah, that's 578 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: the end of their defense right there, Like that's that's 579 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: the guy for them, and that's the fear here. That's 580 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: the reason mean and Chad are getting eight points here 581 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: just because of that. It's uh we hope bryceh Ian 582 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: canna keep this in this but this is really gonna 583 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: come down to stop in the run and putting this 584 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: on in panics, like you need to stack the box. 585 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: Make this kid beach with his arm, just because, like 586 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: I said, he's high variance in his throats, like he 587 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: throws uncatchable balls and you know it. I don't know 588 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: if it looks weird to you, but seeing him throw 589 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: left it is different. Like we talked all the time, 590 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: that is a difference for these receivers catching a left 591 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: your throat then already thrown, it just looks different coming 592 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: out of his hand to the receivers. So this to 593 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: me just feels like an inflated line, especially because Carolina 594 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: just got rolled absolutely blown out the week before and 595 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: they've been good to us. Bouncing back then Bernie me 596 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: and Chad one last time would not be shocking to 597 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: the least. But I just can't help myself. I believe 598 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: in Bryce shawng believe in their offense, and I really 599 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: do think will be ey there have a chance to 600 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: when this game out right or easily have a chance 601 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: to back throw the summer. It just feels way too big, 602 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: way too much respect to this Atlanta team. 603 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: I also don't worry about effort in this game. This 604 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: is a team where they know the coach is going 605 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: to be back. They're starting to get a pretty good 606 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: sensuve of who their quarterback is. They've built momentum in 607 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: the latter half of the year. They don't want to 608 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: end the year on a shitty game with a bad 609 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: taste in their mouth. They want I think it matters 610 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: to win the last game of the year if you're 611 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,479 Speaker 1: a bad team and be able to see positivity and 612 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: have confidence and feel like you have some kind of momentum. 613 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: So I don't have a problem back in the Panthers 614 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: here at all. It's gonna suck, We're gonna do it. 615 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: Chicago plus tennant Green Bay. This line has moved up. 616 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: You like the Bears on Tuesday at nine, it's gone 617 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: up to ten. The Packers need to win and they 618 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: need the Commanders to lose to move up from the 619 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: seventh seed to the sixth seeds. So there will be 620 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: some scoreboard watching and there are some trends that back 621 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: the Bears here. This was one of the saddest things 622 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: of all the things about the Bears that make me sad. 623 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: ESPN this week did a survey of one hundred and 624 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: eleven NFL players of the hardest places to play in 625 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. One two and three were Kansas City, Seattle, 626 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: and Minnesota. Actually four was Philly, by the way, and 627 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell. Five was Buffalo. But the Bears Soldier Field 628 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: tied for thirty first after the Oakland Colosseum. I know 629 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: the games in Green Bay this week, but I'm thinking 630 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: about the Bears. How pathetic is that tie for thirty 631 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: first after Oakland Colisseum. I'll remind you they don't play 632 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: NFL games in Oakland anymore. 633 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's pretty shocking, just because I always 634 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: thought Chicago is just the toughest place to play, because 635 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: not only the weather's brutal, but you guys, even when 636 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: you're terrible, you sell out and the fans are loud. 637 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: So that's that's interesting. Maybe they're not as loud as 638 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: we perceive on TV. 639 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: They ruined the stadium when they built the new Alien 640 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: spaceship inside a silver field. It ruined the acoustics. It's 641 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: not as loud as it used to be. And also 642 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: like the team's just bad. It's been bad for so long. 643 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: People leave games early, and if it's really really cold, 644 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: then people who have season tickets are selling their tickets 645 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. So you're getting you know, 646 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: randoms who sometimes are super fans. Sometimes it's a holiday gift. 647 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: They're just taking their kids. Like I know it because 648 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: like I have so many friends who have season tickets 649 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: or have had season tickets over the past of forty years. 650 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: So it's not as loud as you would think. 651 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: It is. 652 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: Not like eighty five when I was sitting in the 653 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: twenty yard line against the Giants and the Rams during 654 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 655 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: Those are the days. Take me back to eighty five, baby, 656 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: damn it. 657 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: Eighty five, duge on Gail, Oh my god, it was 658 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: just amazing. 659 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: People were smoking cigarettes in the stadium still damn. Those 660 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: were the days. 661 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: They were like they were passing me drinks and I was, 662 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen years old. 663 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: Put a little hair in your chest. You're right, I 664 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: don't want to bet this one. I don't know what 665 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: was wrong with you. On Tuesday. I did bet this 666 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: Chicago team. But no pros are on this game. I 667 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: feel like most guys are avoiding this game for different games. 668 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: And after reading the Emage article gave me littlegit zero 669 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: confidence in this Bears team. I think they're one and 670 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 2: ten straight up in their last eleven against this Green 671 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: Bay team. And it's just, you know, like you said 672 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: on Tuesday, that just it's not even a rival anymore, right, 673 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: It's just so one sided. It's it's brutal. So I 674 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: might be eating these words come Sunday and the Bear 675 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: shock the world and do finally pulling up set off 676 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: And I'm an idiot because I didn't hammer this and 677 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: stick my chest out in this one. But there's just 678 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: other dogs I like better. And you're right, like the 679 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: fear for me is that locker room for Chicago. It's 680 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: just totally out, like they're just totally gone, totally giving 681 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: up on this team in this front office, and they 682 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: do know that this is not the coaching staff for 683 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: next year, So you're right, there's really no incentive other 684 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: than personal incentives to play for this one. So yeah, 685 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: hate it all. 686 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: All. 687 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 2: Everything coming out of Chicago right now was just so negative. 688 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to be putting money on this one. 689 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: Reminder, Bears have not won a road game on a 690 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: Sunday since our friend Nick Foles did it for them 691 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: in December of twenty one. All Right, the game that 692 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, Sharp Calls New York Giants plus 693 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: two at Philly Philly was fourth toughest to play a 694 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo fifth Saquon will not be playing. How do you 695 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: feel about that? 696 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: A wise man? One set of best chad records can 697 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: be broken. Banners hang forever. So yeah, what do I 698 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 2: want him to break the record so I can shove 699 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 2: it down Giants' faces? 700 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: Like? 701 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's been a great day if you're 702 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: just an ultimate hater of your division and talking shit 703 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: to one another. It's been a fun week, especially on Reddit, 704 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: where you know, Giants fan's trying to make its like, well, 705 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson did it in sixteen games, so it's not 706 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: real record. Well I guess OJ did it in fourteen games. 707 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: Is that the real record? Or Jim Brown who did 708 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 2: it in ten games? Is that the real record? I mean, 709 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 2: what are we doing here? So it's been a fun 710 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 2: week of just trying to act like they're not pissed 711 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 2: off for you. I don't know, Giants fans they got 712 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: to be down the worst out of any fan base 713 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: right now in football, especially after losing the number one 714 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 2: pick last week. It was just it's just been too good. 715 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: So yeah, Saquon, I could see it in his eyes 716 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 2: and the way he talked about it. He's bummed, right. 717 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 2: He wants that legacy, like he said, that's that's something 718 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: amazing to have attached to his last name. But as 719 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: someone that knows that Saquan has never had any playoff success, 720 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: I think once he gets his first playoff win, that 721 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: feeling will go away. He'll realize, like, dude, the ultimate 722 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: goal here is to hang that banner. And yeah, Eagles 723 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 2: right now, I mean, so we'll talk about next week, 724 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: Like hurts is still not either a concussion protocol like 725 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's bad if he's if he's got 726 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: a really back concussion like that, because that's just those 727 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 2: are the symptoms that just don't go away. Now he's 728 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 2: two weeks in, so yeah, between that, Sequan, you know, 729 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: this Eagles team using this as a bye a week. 730 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: That's great. Giants just popped back up to plus three 731 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: at a couple of really public books, So some smart 732 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: money now has coming in on the Eagles here this morning, 733 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 2: which is pretty surprising, but nothing changing my position. I 734 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: think the Giants they're going to play hard, and the Eagles, 735 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: you know, they're gonna play the rookies, I guess and 736 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: a couple other guys. But for the most part, they're 737 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: gonna be sitting almost all their starters, especially across the 738 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 2: offensive line. And we expect to be Tamer McKee at 739 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 2: quarterback again, guy making his first start his career. I 740 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 2: know he came in and did well against the Cowboys. 741 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: I feel like at that point the Cowboys kind of 742 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: had to quit on that game. So yeah, we expect 743 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 2: the Giants to keep shooting themselves in the foot, win 744 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 2: this game, give themselves worst draft capo. But and again, 745 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 2: Evan had an amazing thing in his article about Brian Dable, 746 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: Like the guy has been money in these final weeks 747 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: of the season. I believe he's five to zero against 748 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: the spread in the final two weeks of the season, right, Evan, 749 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: So his teams play hard for him. He doesn't really 750 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: care about draft position. He's he's got one thing on 751 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 2: mind that's to win. So yeah, this this matchup for 752 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: the Eagles, I was really worried about they were going 753 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 2: to play Saequon. But after Ceri in his conversation yesterday, 754 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 2: you know for a fact he's not playing guys like 755 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: Lane Johnson's not playing. That's gonna be a big deal, right, 756 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: They're gonna be wrestling so many key starters. So yeah, 757 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: just take the points here. I just think I get 758 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 2: where the publics come from. They're like, there's no way 759 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: Giants went back to back weeks. I get it, but 760 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 2: we always see these final weeks are just weird, right, 761 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 2: These these teams like the Eagles, the best SISCO team 762 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 2: of football, that is not gonna be the same team 763 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 2: on Sunday, right, They're they're not gonna show They're not 764 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: gonna show anything defensively, and they're not gonna show anything offensively. Right, 765 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 2: They're just gonna start preparing for the following week. So 766 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 2: I love this spot for this Giants team. 767 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: I saw a clip of. 768 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: A J. 769 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: Brown of Tanner McKee realizing A J. Brown had thrown yeah, 770 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: the first touchdown pass end of the stands and he 771 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: was handling a great He's like, oh, that's too bad. 772 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: And then AJ Brown, who felt so bad about it, 773 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: ran over told him that he got it back said 774 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: he was so sorry, Like it was just it was 775 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: so genuine and authentic, like how badly aj Brown felt 776 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: about it. I thought it was a great scene because 777 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: like you get to see real connection and like how 778 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: these players recognize what a big deal it is to 779 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: throw a touchdown pass in the NFL, and it doesn't 780 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: matter if you're the first string, second string, third string, 781 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: or the high profile, one hundred million dollar temperamental receiver. 782 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: He recognized he screwed up and felt terrible for a 783 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: guy who has a special moment and fixed it and 784 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: then went over and apologize. I thought it was just adorable. 785 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was hilarious. The guy who called the ball 786 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: was like a very classic South Philly looking guy. 787 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: Like yes, like I got you, I got you. 788 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 2: Flex into him being like you guys are the heart 789 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 2: and sold this team. And then of course Big Don 790 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 2: was the one that came over and got the ball. 791 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: It just had all so yeah, very funny. 792 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: That dom thing is is like so easy to explain 793 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: as a Philly phenomenon and hard to explain for anyone 794 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: who doesn't follow sports or understand Philly sports culture, Like yeah, 795 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: there's nobody in the stands. Who if Big Don came 796 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: over and said, give me the ball, wasn't going to 797 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: give Big Dom the ball, you know what I mean. 798 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: I just always think it's funny where you think about 799 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 2: all the stuff we don't know about what Big Dom does. 800 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 2: You know, he's the guy showing up at three am 801 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 2: at the police station to get the guy and drive 802 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: him home. Like he just he's a do it all guy, 803 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 2: And I just love that he's become such a personality 804 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: in Philly. 805 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: I think he's the first guy the cops call. I 806 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: think he's the first guy the agents call. I think 807 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 1: he's the first guy anyone calls if there's anything going 808 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: down and they need to fix something right away. La 809 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: Chargers at the Las Vegas Raiders. So this line's come 810 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: down a little bit. You said, the wise guys are 811 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: liking the Raiders. I get it. I get it, dude, 812 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: Jim Well, I get like, you know, thinking, what are 813 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: the Chargers playing for here? They do have some seeding 814 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: to play for. They get the five seed if they 815 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: win and the Steelers lose, so they will know like 816 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: what they're playing for by the time this game kicks off. 817 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: It's one of the few games where seating will be, 818 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: where the stakes will be determined, and they won't have 819 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: to scoreboard watch. But Harbaugh went on the Let's Go 820 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 1: Show with with you know Jim Gray, and Belichick said 821 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: he was playing to win the game. That's what I 822 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: would fully expect from Jim Harbaugh. I would take that 823 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: to me. And he's not resting his starters, and if 824 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: there are still stakes to be had, I don't mind 825 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: betting the Chargers here. It's like the reason why road 826 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: favorites have been winning this year is usually because of 827 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: good coaching and limited mistakes from their quarterback. That's what 828 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers have. It's why we liked him against the 829 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: Patriots last week. I think you're getting a lot of 830 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: love for the Raiders right now because they're on a 831 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: two game win streak. That doesn't fade if the Chargers 832 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: have something to play for, and we'll know by the 833 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: time we put our picks in. 834 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: I like the Chargers the Raiders, not that they just 835 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 2: beat Jacksonville, but they feel like they kind of got 836 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: away with one there right there was like a last 837 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: fourth quarter drive and they stole that game and then 838 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 2: they beat the Saints. Other than that, we've seen when 839 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 2: they've played any team that's semi well coached or outside 840 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, right, the Chiefs. Their games are always weird 841 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. We knew that we took them against 842 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: the Chiefs in that exact matchup, but anyone else you 843 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: go through their schedule, they just get dominated. Like well 844 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: coached teams that are smart, they have a good quarterback 845 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 2: just dominate this Raiders team. That's exactly what we have here. 846 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 2: Like we talk coming to the season, I had doubts 847 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 2: about Herbert being consistent for good reason. Even if he's 848 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: been a little inconsistent the second half, he's been great. 849 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 2: Like since he's come back kind of healed from that injury, 850 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: that ankle injury, especially the last couple of weeks, you've 851 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 2: really seen him be so confident, pushing the wall downfield, 852 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: be totally in tune with this offense at this point, 853 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 2: Like he looked so comfortable in this game. And I'm 854 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 2: happy to know the Chargers hopefully will not be sitting 855 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 2: there because to me, they should just keep their rhythm going. Like, yeah, 856 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 2: they're a team that basically no one's gonna believe for 857 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 2: them in the playoffs. Right, they're a year early at 858 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 2: this point, that makes sense why people don't believe in them, 859 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 2: especially when we're talking about Lamar, Josh Allen and the Chiefs. 860 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, if it's Mahomes versus him in this 861 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 2: exact scenario, we just think Mahome is gonna get the 862 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: best of them at the end of that game. But 863 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 2: in these type of scenarios when he's playing bad teams, 864 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 2: I just feel like Herbert shines, and same with Harball. 865 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: So maybe this line movements because what you just said, 866 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 2: maybe the the pros where have been in Pittsburgh being 867 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 2: in Cincy, maybe that's the thought here where it's just 868 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 2: like they're combining these two because they're like, well, the 869 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: Chargers will sit their starters because they have nothing to 870 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: play for. But you know that's that's a decision, meaning 871 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: like you just said, we can make Sunday morning if 872 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 2: we need to. But I'm happy to lock this line 873 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 2: in now because say they do get blown out Pittsburgh, 874 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 2: couldn't this line go up to six? I don't know. 875 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: I just I find it very interesting that it has 876 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: moved so much. And yeah, I just I love this 877 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: charge of team, especially they're playing a bad a bad team. 878 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 2: Their coach is horrible. He's a psychopath. He's not going 879 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: to take his foot off the gas. I just feel 880 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 2: like they're gonna go out there and try to whoopball 881 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 2: in this division. Foe. 882 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh is my New Year's resolution spirit animal. I 883 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: want to live up to the full, to my full potential. 884 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh says they're attacking Week eighteen with an enthusiasm 885 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: unknown to mankind. 886 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 2: Don't gamble, don't associate with gamblers. Avoid it like the plague. 887 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: That's how I'm attacking this show. We didn't come into 888 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: the show thinking, all right, it's Week eighteen, can't really 889 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: make any predictions. We digested it. 890 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did the work. 891 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: We watched the press conferences, looked at the trends. We're 892 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: coming in here. We're playing to win the week. We 893 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: want to go five and out. We want to live 894 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: up to our fullest potential. Every single we are the 895 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 1: Jim Harball led Los Angeles Charters of the Favorites Pickham Contest, 896 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: Podcasting World. 897 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 2: You know me, regardless of what's going on, I'm a 898 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 2: foxhole guy. I commit to a team, I commit to 899 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 2: a city. I'm a foxhole guy. 900 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the rams in the Seattle. 901 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: I did like him. I liked Seattle at three on Tuesday, 902 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: I did make it my executive decision. It's not been 903 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: a great category for me this year, but I would 904 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: like the full credit at three. It moved to foward 905 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: during the show because I'm sharp and people hear what 906 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: I'm saying and then they immediately start following me. It's 907 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: now six and a half, Like, I'm not sure why 908 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: the move happened so late. McVeigh had telegraphed he was 909 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: going to rest his starters. He had said it in 910 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: his podcast earlier in the week. I talked about it 911 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. He said he was looking forward to seeing 912 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo and Blake Korum play, so like now he's 913 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: confirmed it. I also mentioned Gino has four million in 914 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: incentives that he's going for that are relatively easy to get, 915 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: so we know he'll be playing. We like the Seahawks 916 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: and playing for a new coach. They want to put 917 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: good stuff on tape, they want to build momentum. It's 918 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: up to six and a half now. We're not going 919 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: to bet it put in the contest, but it's amazing 920 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: to me that it took so long for it to 921 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: get that far, but I. 922 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 2: Think you just know why it did because he basically 923 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: confirmed it, and that's when you really saw the line 924 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 2: shoot up to six six and a half, Like when 925 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 2: he came out and basically said, everyone's sitting and I'm 926 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 2: excited to see Jimmy be playing in this game. It's 927 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,439 Speaker 2: like that was to me, that was when the line 928 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 2: really moved, like literally right when he had that press conference. 929 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, but it isn't this about finding the edge, right, 930 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: Like we had intel and we had information and McVeigh 931 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: had sort of telegraphed this when it was at three. 932 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: Why are people waiting so long? That's when you want 933 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: to bet, when you feel like you can get a 934 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: sort of get a jump on competition. 935 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean, though maybe they were just 936 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 2: waiting for him to really confirm it before they wanted 937 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 2: to pay powers. I say powers, Yeah, I mean it 938 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: depends on when you're been a certain amount of money, though, 939 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: you want to be sure what you're betting on. So yeah, 940 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 2: this is a game where I'm happy we can avoid 941 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,959 Speaker 2: it now because it's moved too much. I honestly didn't 942 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 2: want to have too much invested in this one just 943 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 2: because you know, Gino has not looked right since that 944 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 2: knee injury, and that's the god honest truth, Like he 945 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 2: didn't look right the week before. And you know at three, 946 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 2: like you said that to me was an amazing value 947 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 2: and that was like a good number because it is 948 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 2: him with starters going up against a backup of the 949 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 2: Rams team. And we know how top heavy the Rams 950 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: are as well, like they're just like Houston, there are 951 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 2: stars in the scrub team. They're just a team of 952 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 2: really good players and the bottom of it's really bad, right, 953 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 2: they're really thin once you start going through the layers. 954 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 2: So the the Rams here though there are they are 955 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 2: a young team, so I wouldn't be shocked if they 956 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 2: do play a lot of the young starters on defense. 957 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 2: But offensively, what I read that it's basically going to 958 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 2: be the rookie running back and then you know backup 959 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 2: quarterback and no Cooper Cup, no Puoka the coup, and 960 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 2: it's like you go down the line, it's like, Okay, 961 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 2: can Jimmy keep them in this game competitively? Sure, he 962 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 2: can maybe keep this close, but do I see him 963 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 2: winnning this out right now? So yeah, I agree with 964 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 2: your play at three at six and a half, that 965 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 2: just feels way too rich to back the Seahawks team. 966 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: By the way, I forgot to mention that the Los 967 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers will be our foxhole bet we are clearly 968 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: on the opposite side. Otherwise, guys more in that one 969 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: than any other game this week. Los Angeles Chargers are 970 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: the foxhult. Meanwhile, our Big Balls better the week presented 971 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,479 Speaker 1: by Tommy John. If you've got the balls, Tommy John 972 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: has the support, great game, start, great underwear, and Tommy 973 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: John makes the greatest. That was me giving my Big 974 00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: Balls announcement to the fullest of my potential. Kansas City 975 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: plus ten and a half at Denver it got up 976 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: to eleven on Wednesday, there was a little bit of buyback. 977 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: We're on the Chiefs here. I don't understand the Chiefs 978 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: at sixteen and one. I know who's playing and who's not, 979 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: but they still have the best strategic offensive mind in football. 980 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: A quarterback who is not a fourteen point difference from 981 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in Carson Wentz. This is just too big 982 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: of a number. It makes It makes no sense to 983 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: me whatsoever. 984 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 2: No, and it's gonna be the most public dog of 985 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 2: the week, right because I think everyone's in agreement with 986 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 2: us of this line's way too big. And I think 987 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 2: they originally moved it this high because there were whispers 988 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 2: that Carson Wentz was gonna sit in this game too, 989 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 2: that they didn't want to risk injuring him either, and 990 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 2: they were gonna play their third string, and the ady 991 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 2: k my Es change said no, it's it's it's Carson. 992 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: The weirdest thing is that it hasn't moved, like it 993 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 2: went down from a couple of books out at eleven. Yeah, 994 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 2: I went to ten and a half, but I thought 995 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 2: this would be eight and a half. Eight after the 996 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 2: announcement it was Carson, You're right. It's like, is he 997 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 2: really fourteen to fifteen points worse than Mahomes. It's it 998 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 2: feels like it's a bit dramatic, especially when you know 999 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 2: we've come to realize, especially as Mahomes is, you know, 1000 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 2: especially you can't duplicate how he's so confident, great in 1001 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 2: the pocket, everything like that. But we talk it's injurying. 1002 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 2: The scheme is something that's very very very very important 1003 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 2: to this team, and you know, obviously Mahomes now have 1004 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 2: the numbers this year because they basically just run the 1005 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 2: ball the whole second half and just ball control team. 1006 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 2: So I don't think he made I don't have to look, 1007 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure he missed the Pro Bowl, right, 1008 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 2: makes the problem right, And it's like, you know, guy 1009 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 2: comes off two Super Bowls, goes fifteen to one, but 1010 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 2: he doesn't have the stats because their team is just 1011 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 2: so smart. He knows they don't need to force balls downfield. 1012 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 2: They can just run the second half. You'll never have 1013 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 2: the stats to make the pro bowning know, that's just 1014 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 2: part of it. It's a team sport. That's why we 1015 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 2: love football, right, It's the ultimate team sport. So yeah, 1016 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 2: this is a line that me and Chad love, gonna 1017 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 2: have the money line around Robin. This is just the 1018 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 2: best part of the final week of the season. Like 1019 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 2: a team like this that no one's gonna believe it 1020 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 2: can kind of shock the world here. But unfortunately people 1021 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 2: do believe this one. 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Okay, 1056 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: Last one on the board Minnesota plus three now at 1057 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 1: bet three six five at Detroit. You liked Minnesota on Tuesday, 1058 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: you had good reasons for doing it. I don't want 1059 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 1: to bet this game just because I want Detroit to 1060 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: win so badly. I'd rather just pass miss the edge 1061 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: on Minnesota than bet against the Lions. You mentioned sharp 1062 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: calls wise guys like Detroit. 1063 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1064 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: My feeling here is just this is a team that 1065 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: is impossible not to love. You get so few windows 1066 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL to live up to your potential and 1067 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 1: I think the Lions have that shot right now. Very 1068 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: good chance. Aaron Glenn has gone next year, He's done 1069 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: it as well as he can with third and four 1070 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,399 Speaker 1: stringers and guys off the street. Likely Ben Jhonson is gone. 1071 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: Not that they're not replaceable, but this transformation. The entire 1072 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: country has been behind this team turning it around, and 1073 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: I just look, I'm a sentimental guy. I'm rooting for 1074 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: these three coaches and this team to win the Super 1075 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 1: Bowl together, reach the height. Everyone can go off to 1076 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: their own separate ways, graduate into something else, but I 1077 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 1: want them to achieve it together. I want them to 1078 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: win the number one seed. I want them to rest, 1079 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: I want them to get their defensive players back. I 1080 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: don't want to bet this game because if the right 1081 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: side is Minnesota, I don't want to be right. 1082 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 2: And you're very nice to say that. Them losing their 1083 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 2: assistant you know coaches won't matter, but it will. Like 1084 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 2: it's we've seen it time and time again. I mean 1085 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 2: I lived it as an Egles fan, Like we went 1086 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: and won the Super Bowl, Yeah right, We lost our 1087 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 2: OC in our DC and we basically just went into hell. 1088 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 1: And well, I don't know what you're you're talking about 1089 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,280 Speaker 1: you won the Super Bowl with Nick Foles and Doug Peterson. 1090 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 1: You lost the Super Bowl and then lost your coordinators. 1091 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember who the coordinators were when Doug Peterson 1092 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: was the coach. 1093 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,439 Speaker 2: No, your your favorite guy is uh coaching the Colts well. 1094 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: But that's when that's when they lost with Sirianni you 1095 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: lost and Steichen. 1096 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 2: And you know this The silver line and hope is 1097 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 2: the Eagles were the first team in NFL history to 1098 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 2: have a different whole, different coaching staff and make a 1099 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 2: Super Bowl between five years. So like it can happen. 1100 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,479 Speaker 2: You can lose your coaching staff and get back there 1101 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 2: within five years. I mean it's happened before, but our 1102 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 2: circle data shows us. It's like it's it's a big 1103 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 2: deal losing these key pieces as coaches. And you know, 1104 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 2: not that the lines are gonna be desperate, but they 1105 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 2: have to know this, Like it's now that I'm thinking 1106 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 2: about though they've drafted so well that maybe they can't 1107 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 2: combat it, but it's like this is the year it's 1108 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 2: all lined up. You have a really great defensive mind 1109 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 2: that you know you have no you should have no defense, 1110 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 2: Like it's it's incredible what they have done even winning 1111 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 2: all these games down the stretch here because you know 1112 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 2: they they have lost so many pieces here and you 1113 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 2: know this is you're right, Chad, It's like I get 1114 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 2: your emotion in this bet. You know, who doesn't want 1115 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 2: to see Detroit win? This be the one seed that's 1116 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 2: their best pass. But I just think at this point, 1117 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 2: to me, Minnesota is the better team. You can get 1118 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 2: three right now at bet three sixty five. And we 1119 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 2: already talked about like if you have, like, guy, do 1120 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 2: I have a bunch of futures tied to this Detroit 1121 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 2: team winning this division? You have to hedge, Like this 1122 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 2: is such a unique, great opportunity to hedge on a 1123 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 2: Vikings team that to me is the better team right now, 1124 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 2: and they're the dog. And you know, as much as 1125 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 2: you want to respect home field advantage we talked about 1126 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 2: this year, there is no real home field advantage right, 1127 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 2: Like that's kind of gone out the door, especially when 1128 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 2: there's two teams like this that can move the ball, 1129 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 2: Like the offense here is gonna be the difference and 1130 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 2: we've seen that. Right The total is the biggest total, 1131 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 2: like EVM saying since was a twenty twenty one it's 1132 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 2: it's insane how high this total is. So you not 1133 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 2: want it take it? It makes I get it, like if 1134 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 2: you want to take a step back. Anyone out there 1135 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 2: doesn't want to take this. But to me, you fine, 1136 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 2: a game that's going to be a shootout, you almost 1137 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 2: always take the points, Like unless you know you're really 1138 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 2: committed to this Detroit team, go money line then, like, 1139 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 2: don't don't mess around the two and a half because 1140 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 2: I talk all the time how I found important. I 1141 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 2: think two and a half is. And you even go 1142 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 2: back and look at the first time they played. Me 1143 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 2: and Chad survived that Detroit bet right, we did handicap 1144 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 2: it right, but it was madness. There was like a 1145 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 2: strip sacked touchdown at the end of the game. All 1146 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 2: of a sudden Detroy had to drive the field again 1147 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 2: and get another touchdown. Then it was just pure madness. 1148 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 2: And that's why I think this game is gonna be 1149 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 2: like you're never gonna feel comfortable. I don't. I can't see 1150 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 2: this being a blow out on either side. I would 1151 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 2: be shocked Detroit blow out the Vikings or the Vikings 1152 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 2: blow out Detroit. It would honestly be shocking. But I 1153 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 2: just think the fact that you have a team on 1154 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 2: short rest already banged up. I mean, they've just had 1155 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 2: a grueling long season here, but against a Minnesota team 1156 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 2: that you know, not that they're going to be fresh 1157 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 2: in this game, but like you know, they dominated their 1158 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 2: last game against Green Bay. They basically took the foot 1159 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 2: off the guests in the fourth quarter and a little 1160 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 2: sweat there. But I just I just think it. The 1161 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 2: line is up perfectly this Minnesota team. So yeah, I'm 1162 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 2: clearly unpoc committed. I love them at plus three Minnesota, 1163 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 2: and you know at two and a half, if Chattas 1164 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 2: won't put him in a contest, I get it. Like 1165 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm more confident at three three and a half with 1166 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 2: this Minnesota team i am at two and a half. 1167 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, this is the dream scenario for the NFL 1168 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: two fourteen and two teams fight for the one seed. 1169 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't get much better than this. 1170 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to watch this game. It's like I 1171 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: love football. I can't. It's gonna be a great It's 1172 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a great game. All right, we'll we'll review, 1173 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 1: we'll put in our picks. After the show. We're gonna 1174 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: want to get some numbers before they move. Even more 1175 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: people will be able to track that. We'll finalize them 1176 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday morning. Each week we give out a two 1177 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 1: team money line underdog Parla. Bet three sis five boosts 1178 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: the odds and highlights it on their site all week 1179 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: and long under both game pages. Both games are eligible 1180 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: for bet three six five's early payout promo, where your 1181 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: moneyline pick gets Marcus win if that team takes a 1182 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: seventeen point lead, even if they lose. So if you 1183 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: want to bet this, better to bet three six five. 1184 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 1: This week's boost did parlay Jags and Giants. That's right, 1185 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: that's what we're asking. Can't imagine? Can't imagine what the 1186 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: trading analyst at boot three six five will boost that one? 1187 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: To find the boost under the Jags or Giants game 1188 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 1: pages on bet three six five, simon our money line 1189 00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 1: underdog round Robin, come up hey. 1190 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 2: Day, hallau yo waa pay day. There will come up 1191 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 2: pay day some day. 1192 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 3: Some day there will come up pay day, hallau yoa payday. 1193 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 2: I will come up pay. 1194 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 3: Day some day. 1195 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I would say, we want to do the Chiefs, Panthers, Giants, Jags. 1196 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 2: I remember you liked Cowboys, right and if you want 1197 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 2: to take the Cowboys out and go with Minnesota, I support. 1198 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 1: It, all right. I can do that because I know 1199 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: how much you love Minnesota. I hate like when you're 1200 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: so locked in and I'm clearly being emotional about it. 1201 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 2: I'm locked in, but I'm scared. I think anyone's scared 1202 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 2: betting against this Detroit team. I mean, man Campbell just 1203 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 2: dominates in this exact scenario. What is he having? Is 1204 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 2: he seven to zero in night games with golf against 1205 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 2: the spread? 1206 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 3: I think it's something like that where it's against the 1207 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 3: Vikings too. GoF hasn't lost against the spread against in Viking. 1208 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 2: It's not good chatter. It's every trend I read from Evan. 1209 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 2: I was like, God, damn it, but I can't help myself. 1210 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: All right, forget it. Then let's go with the underlaw. 1211 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: The underdog round robin is going to be Kansas City, Jags, Giants, Cowboys, Oh, Carolina, 1212 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: Carolina Jags, Cowboys, Giants, Carolina Jags, Cowboys, Giants, Kansas City. 1213 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: All right, Jesus, that was Scoot for Let Scoot, Well, 1214 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 1: we gotta do your biggest bets. Then I want to 1215 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: do scooter. 1216 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 2: Lt biggest bets. So far. I mean, I hit the 1217 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 2: Cincinnati in one early. I've not bet in much since. 1218 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 2: That definitely one of my bigger bets. Jaguars Giants, probably 1219 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 2: gonna end up with Minnesota's one of my bigger bets 1220 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 2: if especially if it stays at three. So yeah, I 1221 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 2: would say those three really jump out for Sunday. 1222 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Wow, that's truly disgusting. That's gonna be it. You're gonna 1223 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: be terrible. 1224 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 2: I even mentioned Tennessee because I just know no one's 1225 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 2: gonna follow that one. But yeah, I'm heavy on Tennessee 1226 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 2: as well. 1227 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're gonna have such an excruciating Sunday. 1228 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: If you were drinking last Sunday, I forget about this Sunday. 1229 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 2: When all whole is lost, all this left is relief. 1230 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 2: Let's play scoots Roulette. 1231 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Scoot Roulette. Last week you were on Minnesota. I was 1232 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: on Green Bay, our first head to head of the year. 1233 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: Very upsetting for me. Who would you like to pick 1234 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: in scoot Roulette? 1235 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to double down and take 1236 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 2: Detroy and I take in Minnesota, or you just scare 1237 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 2: it off. 1238 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 1: Now, No, I'll do it. 1239 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 2: You will? 1240 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? Why not? 1241 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 2: You're sick dog? Yeah, give me Minnesota. Then whatever you 1242 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 2: get it, you get two and a half, I get 1243 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 2: plus three. 1244 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Sure, all right, I like that. I like that one. 1245 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 1: Now it gives me like a reason to be invested 1246 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 1: without actually having to be invested as a contest pick. 1247 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: Before we get to Evan Abrams, if you are participating, 1248 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: uh no, this is not accurate. This should have come out. 1249 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: We're all good, everything's good. Let's get to Evan Abrams 1250 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: before we get out of here, our director of research. 1251 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: You can get the final word, Nigas feel good about something. 1252 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 2: The last word with Evan A. 1253 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 1: Brams. We're finished talking. 1254 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, if we're betting the Giants, Titans 1255 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 3: and Jaguars, I'm not sure how much I can help there, 1256 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 3: but I will give you a few pieces of fun 1257 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 3: information here. The one thing you guys did say about 1258 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz which I looked up, so ten and a 1259 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 3: half would actually be his largest spread in any game 1260 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 3: played ninety three starts. He did it against Lamar in 1261 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 3: twenty two, So yeah, even a big number for him 1262 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 3: in his heyday and his post days. And the interesting 1263 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 3: thing on Sunday Night football, so Vikings fourteen wins win total. 1264 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 2: Was six and a half. 1265 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 3: If they get one more win at fifteen, this would 1266 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 3: be the most over expectations any team has ever finished 1267 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 3: in the since re alignment in two thousand and two. 1268 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 3: So Vikings had a six and a half win total 1269 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 3: in the WOW, which is insane. But I'll give you 1270 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 3: two trends. Since it is Week eighteen, we kind of 1271 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 3: have a lot of this information on teams to bet 1272 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 3: and fade at the end of the year. So historically 1273 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,439 Speaker 3: it's been profitable to fade teams who need to win 1274 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 3: at the end of the regular season. It's a great 1275 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 3: note from Stuckey that we've been updating the year, So 1276 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety eliminated teams playing teams that need to 1277 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 3: win over the final two weeks of the regular season 1278 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 3: sixty percent against the spread. Now for Week eighteen, that 1279 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 3: is the Saints getting about fourteen in the Bucks, the 1280 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 3: Panthers getting eight or nine in Atlanta, and the Jets 1281 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 3: at about one one and a half or two against 1282 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 3: the Dolphins. All three of those other teams. 1283 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:22,919 Speaker 2: Need to win. 1284 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 3: And then here's an even broader one which I found 1285 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 3: in bet Labs, which I found was interesting. So in addition, 1286 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 3: teams with a win percentage between forty percent and sixty 1287 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 3: percent Week sixteen or later twenty seven and seventy two 1288 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 3: against the spread twenty seven percent when they are against 1289 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 3: opponents with an eight to twenty five percent worst win percentage. 1290 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 3: So basically, in those last two to three weeks of 1291 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 3: the regular season, you want to be betting these bad 1292 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 3: teams against good teams. They're failing to cover the spread 1293 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 3: by three point eight points per game this week. That 1294 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 3: is the Colts against the Jaguars, the Dolphins against those Jets, 1295 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 3: the Falcons against those Panthers, and the Bucks against the 1296 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 3: same type of games, same type of system. But this 1297 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 3: is just year in and year out, these teams, like 1298 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 3: who are the Colts last week against the Giants, kind 1299 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 3: of find themselves not coming through when people expect them to. 1300 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 3: And then I'll end here. We talked a lot about 1301 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 3: the Titans, So yes, Chad, to answer your question from 1302 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 3: earlier two and fourteen ats, they're just the only team 1303 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 3: ever to lose fourteen games against the spreading the season, 1304 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 3: so that will continue no matter what. But the funny 1305 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 3: thing is this, so they were favorite. Actually last week 1306 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 3: they closed it minus one with some late action, so 1307 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 3: they're about to close its favorites in back to back weeks, 1308 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 3: and I found this one so ending the year bad. 1309 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 3: Only a few teams have had a four plus game 1310 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 3: ATS losing streak and an ATS one percentage of twenty 1311 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 3: five percent or worse in Week seventeen or later, which 1312 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 3: is exactly what you're getting with the Titans. The only 1313 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 3: two teams before that were the Bucks in twenty two, 1314 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 3: who actually beat the Panthers, and famously in twenty twenty one, 1315 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 3: the Jaguars, who upset the Colts and kept them out 1316 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 3: of the playoffs. The other funny thing is it's actually 1317 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 3: also the Browns this week. The Browns are I don't 1318 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 3: know if I didn't even realize this until I look 1319 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 3: it up. The Browns are four and twelve against the 1320 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 3: spread this year. They failed to spread in four or 1321 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 3: five straight games entering this one, so they're pretty much 1322 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 3: on in the same course as Tennessee. They've been really bad, 1323 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 3: kind of unexpectedly starting dt are these last few weeks. 1324 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 3: And then I'll leave you with this. So Simon mentioned 1325 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 3: it with Dable, but I found this interesting. Best Coaches 1326 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 3: against the Spread Week seventeen and eighteen in our bet 1327 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 3: Labs database. In two thousand and three, Tomlin fourteen and 1328 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 3: seven again, ats Dan Campbell seven and one, and again 1329 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 3: Brian Dable at five and oero. The other good ones 1330 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 3: were McDermott and Peterson. Who I know you guys are 1331 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,479 Speaker 3: on a few of those coaches and teams this week, 1332 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 3: so maybe that'll turn out on the positive side. 1333 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: Feel great, you know what I feel like, Simon, Feel 1334 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: like we're going to live up to our potential in 1335 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: the week. Do you feel that way too? 1336 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 2: Always good? 1337 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad of that. We are like minds. As a 1338 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 1: reminder of the Favorites podcast is presented by Bet three 1339 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 1: sixty five and now new Bet three sixty five. 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