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Speaker 1: You're listening to sulf Rep special ups, news and information

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Speaker 1: straight from the experts. And now here are your hosts.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Webb, Jack Morphon, I'm the rest of the Boys,

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Speaker 1: Soccer dot Com, on Time, on Target. I am in Scato,

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Speaker 1: Nick hay Hill, the director of media here Hurricane Groups

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Speaker 1: and basically all of the men behind the Big Mountain

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Speaker 1: Heroes documentary or here in studio, first of which is

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Speaker 1: Leo Jenkins, are range, dramatic and everybody a lot of

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Speaker 1: the audience million fuel already. What's going on? Man? The

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Speaker 1: antics um not much popped in for Mexico this morning.

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Speaker 1: I got in at five o'clock and I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: reunion tour right now in New York City via Shamani.

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Speaker 1: Last time we all hung out. You came in from Mexico.

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Speaker 1: you doing right now? Because I know that you put

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Speaker 1: out a new book. This is is this your third

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Speaker 1: Ghost is my first book I've I've done as a

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Speaker 1: everybody up to speed, big Mountain Heroes with a documentary

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Speaker 1: that both of you guys were there for, um about skiing,

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Speaker 1: got to still grab wor beautiful golden locks. He's grab worthy. Yeah,

426
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: we switched haircuts. Appreciate it, man, I like I like that.

427
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: You're staying here with me for the full however long

428
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: we go, because it's cool to have someone else reading

429
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: the comments. Um, let's have all right. Well, yeah you're

430
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: here now, it's all good. Thank you, Thank you. Leo

431
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Um, if your head, John, You're good. Uh.

432
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 1: And it's funny. I've seen Nick stuff like on Instagram

433
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: for ages. We had you on the podcast for like

434
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: a really quick second ones, but the first time I've

435
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 1: actually met you. So yeah, it's been uh, it's been

436
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: quite the adventure getting here and it's absolutely awesome. So

437
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: I should give Nick's background, former sniper, owner of Crypto

438
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: am I saying it right, strategic, Yeah, and which is

439
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: your clothing brand? It is um And what's the website again,

440
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: thought crypto Strategic dot com. That's right. Okay, do you

441
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit more about your background

442
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: since a lot of this audience, uh, you know, might

443
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: not know you yet. They've seen you on Software TV though. Yeah,

444
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: I've done quite a few episodes of training so with uh,

445
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great group of guys. And Drew Wallace,

446
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, kind of heads that up and and me

447
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: and Drew kind of have this weird history. Um, his

448
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: brother was my lieutenant when I was in Afghanistan my

449
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: last two work And by the way, which branch were

450
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: you in? I was in the army Okay, got um, Yeah,

451
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: so I was in Afghanistan and Jamie was my lieutenant.

452
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: And I was at shot show the following year and

453
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: Jamie sends me a texting. He's like, hey, my brother

454
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: works for Oakley. He's over there at the booth. You

455
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: should go stop by and see him. And I was like, okay.

456
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: So I went and I'm like, who am I looking for?

457
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: But they look absolutely identical, and so I spotted Drew

458
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: and I kind of introduced myself, and that kind of uh,

459
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: you know, has expanded in this long last year relationship

460
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: of of bromance and shooting pigs at the helicopters and

461
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: going to Utah and working with Buck Doyle out there

462
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: and doing on some of that course. And so it's

463
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: it's been awesome. That's so cool man. So, as I said,

464
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: everybody is in town for the premier of Big Mountain Heroes. Um.

465
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: The first thing I'm wondering, it's like, what do you

466
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: want people to get out of this film? And what

467
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: did you get out of the whole experience? You know,

468
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure what to expect. Um. I don't

469
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: even particularly know what what I want to get out

470
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: of it. Um, I'm I don't want to set any

471
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: expectations or any levels, um and and just kind of

472
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: let it happen. I was with Nick recently at a

473
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: festival in the middle of the desert called Burning Man,

474
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: and adamantly, you know, I was asking him like, all right,

475
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: where's a big mountain heros, let me see it? And

476
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: I had the file because I had my whole house,

477
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and no, no, I can't pull it up. Yeah,

478
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: And so my wife was like, no, you don't want

479
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: to see it. Now, you want to see it there,

480
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: And now I was absolutely right. But I want people

481
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: to take the message out of it. I mean, this

482
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: is truly thrills before pills, and you know, bringing awareness

483
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: to veteran suicide, bringing awareness too recently transition veterans that

484
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: are kind of maybe hard up on their luck um

485
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: and are trying to get back into society and in

486
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: the proper form and doing that isn't following what the

487
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: VA is telling you to do, because we all know

488
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: the VA is just disgusting for lack of a better term, um.

489
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: And so getting out there and seeing nature, going skydiving,

490
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: and I truly feel like every single one of us

491
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: really exudes and lives this. Uh, you know, Leo is

492
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: doing amazing things in Mexico. He's surfing all the time,

493
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: Nick's skydiving all the time. I'm doing whatever the hell

494
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: I can try to do at any point in time,

495
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: spear fishing a lot um, you know, trying to get

496
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: my surfing game back. And snow is just now starting

497
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: to fall up in the mountains in California. So snowboarding

498
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be gonna be uh coming coming up here soon. Yeah.

499
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing it myself. Man. I mean

500
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: I've seen some of the footage that Nick has shot before.

501
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: I saw a quick thirty second trailer that that Nick

502
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: sent me of just like our names and kind of

503
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: like the credits like rolling into it, and it was

504
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: just Matt did an amazing job with the footage, and it's,

505
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, all these drone aerial stuff and it's us

506
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: just trying to climb up this this massive ridgeline after

507
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: we dropped out of the helicopter. Um. So it's it's

508
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: gonna be exciting. So what was your previous experience with

509
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: the guys in the film, Like, who did you know?

510
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: Who was your first time meeting? Um? Me and Leo

511
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: were acquaintances, would see each other and you know, and

512
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: say hello, whether it Bisha show or if we'd run

513
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: into each other at any point in time. Um, I

514
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: invited Leo to come stay at my place whenever he was,

515
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, living the whole van life, and it was

516
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: up in Alaska and come down south headed into crazy,

517
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: right dude, I I truly he is. He's such an inspiration.

518
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: I read his last book, Last Train out of Denver,

519
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: and it was I kind of equated to like the

520
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: modern day Robinson Crusoe, a lot of adventure. But at

521
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: the same time, I couldn't. I could associate with it

522
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: just because you know, me and Lou have similar backgrounds

523
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: just being military. Um. And so it was it was awesome.

524
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: So were you? Are you a skier, snowboarder, snowboarder? Okay,

525
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: so you snowboard is snowboarding for you? You You know, are

526
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: remedied to cope with stres you know, post post combat

527
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: related stress or any of that stuff for you? Or

528
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, because I know that that's that's the theme

529
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: of the film. Is it just something that you enjoy

530
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: doing or do you connect it to Yeah, it's it's

531
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: absolutely something that that I love doing. I've done it

532
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: for quite a while when I was stationed out in Europe, UM,

533
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: I was snowboarding in Austria and Germany quite a bit.

534
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: Um So, originally when Brandon hit me up to ask

535
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: me about this trip, I didn't think I thought that

536
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: I was insanely prepared. I'm like, oh, I've written Europe,

537
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: you know. I I know these these types of mountains, um,

538
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: but those are all groomed runs. And so I was

539
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: very out of my element when you're talking four or

540
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: five seven ft of powder and it was all backcountry stuff.

541
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: And so that was really kind of something that um

542
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: it handed me my ass. For lack of a better term,

543
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: I was I was in over my head. Cahill was

544
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: helping me out, just kind of learning how to ride

545
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: powder that deep before, and so him and Leo both

546
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: which was like, act like it's a wave, act like

547
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: it's water. And once I kind of picked up that principle,

548
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, now I can kind of get it.

549
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: So it's not cutting the hard edges, it's just going

550
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: with the flowing and just leaning into the turns. And

551
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: once I picked that up, and and I was done

552
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: eating shipped for a little while, I was like, all right,

553
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: this is fun and that was good, but it was

554
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: truly testing and it it was a remedy. It absolutely was.

555
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: So with you back in here, Nick, I have to

556
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: ask about burning me and stories from you guys because

557
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: I've never been there. It looks like it was an

558
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: awesome experience. We both have done it several times. This

559
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 1: is my first time. Yeah, this is k Hill's. Uh,

560
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't know many at the time, fifth, fourth time,

561
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: So let's get into it. I want to hear how

562
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: that went down. It's hot. My hydroflask explode in the

563
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: bus because the bus was a hunt of spaghetti one day. Yeah,

564
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: that was rough. Did you smell it? No, no, you

565
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: guys have cleaned it up by by then. But yeah,

566
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: I remember I showed up at at Nick's camp and

567
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: I rude my bicycle over and he had spaghetti that

568
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: was in one of the hydro flask and it blew

569
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: up and uh. They were just appalled at at the

570
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: at the smell. Um. So, I mean, what would you

571
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: what would you say to someone thinking of going for

572
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: the first time. It's um an experience for everyone. I

573
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: mean some of the best experiences I've had have been

574
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: like talking to like a nine year old kid. I'm like,

575
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: what do you like about this place? And he's like,

576
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: I get to drive. Should a nine year old kid

577
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: really be a burning Man? Yeah? And I've seen younger

578
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: and it's weird because people's perception of what it is

579
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: versus the reality of what it is is drastically different.

580
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: I mean, sure there's you know, bad things there, but

581
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: there's so many good things there. I mean, you walk

582
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: down the street right outside, I'm sure you can see

583
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: equally amount of bad and good things right so, um,

584
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 1: you know you can find whatever you're looking for or

585
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: find anything. But yeah, I mean I think it's definitely

586
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: for children, and I think it's definitely for adults to Um,

587
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: you had a nine year old kid, you bring him

588
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: to Burning Man? Um, I think there'd be probably more

589
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: problems from nine years ago, like like that, shouldn't have

590
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: a nine year old kid, but but um, yeah I

591
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: probably would. And I've been trying to get my parents

592
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: come with me, and um, maybe they will this year.

593
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: It's the biggest thing is if like you're not having

594
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: on or if it's too brutal or whatever, you can

595
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: drive away and leave and you can you can be

596
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: like test civilization in like a half hour. Yeah, people

597
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: have this this misconceived perception of of burning Man that

598
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: it's you know, some hippie bullshit stuff and everyone's just

599
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: doing a bunch of drugs and people are naked, and

600
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: it is that if that's what you wanted to be.

601
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: But it's also they're having ted talks and they're doing

602
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: yoga and they have you know, meditation seminars and and

603
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: if it's not that, then I mean people are working

604
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: out or uh you know, they're beating it out of

605
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: each other with like pupil sticks and like boxing gloves

606
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: and at the thunder Dome and and it's truly whatever

607
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: you wanted to be. Um. But I absolutely think that

608
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: it's life changing. I think that everybody needs to go

609
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: at least once. You don't need to go for the

610
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: full week, you don't need to do whatever. Um. But

611
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: just the art, the visuals, everything's it's amazing. It's life changing.

612
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: And my wife and I'll be going back every year. Yeah,

613
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm you guys are convincing me to do it. It's

614
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: something point um before we move on, you know the

615
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: other guys. We've got so many guys here, is there

616
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: one story that stands out in particular from the whole

617
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: Big Mountain Heroes trip and just a story you don't

618
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: need to tell that Leo did his climbing at the

619
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: balcony door breaking one. He said it, so, I mean

620
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: you can, you can say it again if you'd like.

621
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: But I think maybe we should go with a different

622
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: one for the audience. Let me try to think of

623
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: a story I think, or how about this. How did

624
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: it feel flying in a helicopter without a gun? Yeah?

625
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: I remember when we were coming in and after we

626
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: had taken off in the helicopters and we're in Switzerland,

627
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: me and Leo look at each other and we're just like,

628
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird, like not having to worry about

629
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: getting shot at and you know, actually like enjoy the

630
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: ride or even be able to see everything because you know,

631
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: I reckon Afghaniser would always fly at night. Um, and

632
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 1: just like taking in those visuals and it was kind

633
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: of like this it was already the movie in my head,

634
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: like it was already edited, and I could just like

635
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: as we're coming up, we're flying around the mountain just

636
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: trying to find like the perfect spot to drop off at.

637
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't believe where I was, and I

638
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: was like, is this fucking real? Like I, it's so amazing,

639
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: And um, can you describe like how far away from

640
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: humans we were? Yeah, it was probably a good fifteen

641
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: minute helicopter ride, which would probably equate too if we

642
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: were to walk out. And how long would it take

643
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: us days? I think it would probably take us days

644
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: to get there. And once we dropped out of that helicopter,

645
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: you quickly realized like, there there's no one around, there's

646
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: no snowmobiles, there's no lifts, there's no lodges, there's there's

647
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: none of that stuff. Um, this is all on you.

648
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: And uh, it's slightly overwhelming. But being with such a

649
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: good group of guys that are not only a little

650
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: more qualified than I am, um, but just motivational. And

651
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 1: I remember getting to that point and actually here here

652
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: is good. So I remember getting this point. We had

653
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: rode down the glacier quite a bit, Me and Leore

654
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: on snowboards, Cahals on snowboard, but he has uh the

655
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: board the split boards where you can kind of turn

656
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: into skis. And so we got to a point where

657
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: we had to traverse up over this ridge line in

658
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: order to actually get back down in the valley into civilization,

659
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: and I'm coming from sea level. We're probably at this

660
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: point in time at like eleven thousand feet ten thousand

661
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: feet UM, and it just snowed the night before, so

662
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: we're looking at him deep at least at at least

663
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: and at times it was even worse than that. And

664
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: I was just absolutely sucking and I unbuckled. UM. I

665
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: was hungover or at elevation, and me and Leo are

666
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: just traversing out this ridge line and kind of digging

667
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: our snowboards into there. And I literally had to act

668
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: like I had to create a snowshoe out of my

669
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: entire body, because any time I tried to step, I

670
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: would just come up to my waist and I wasn't

671
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't going anywhere, and I was just I was

672
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: getting frustrated and I was I was worked over. Um.

673
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: And I looked back at Leo. I'm like, how you

674
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: doing and and he's like killing it, dude, and he's

675
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: like this is awesome. And his motivation motivated me, and

676
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: it kind of pulled me onto this like negative spot

677
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: in my that I was in. And Uh, I asked myself, like,

678
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: why why are you upset? Right now, Like, why are

679
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: you dude? You just jumped out of a helicopter in

680
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: fucking Switzerland and you're snowboarding with you know this group.

681
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: We like, what what's there to be upset about? And

682
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: so Leo kind of pulled me out of that, you know,

683
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: negative mindset that I was at, and I just remember

684
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: thinking like, I don't know, like I was inspired by

685
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, his motivation by and and it helped, you know,

686
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: bring shed a light on on this adventure that we're on.

687
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: So it was good. Yeah, it's cool when you're inspired

688
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: by your colleagues that you're doing something, you know, such

689
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: a big wife experience with. Yeah, and it's nice. Now right,

690
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: I've I've I got out of the military, and I

691
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: have yet to be inspired by anybody that have met

692
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: since I've been out, with the exception of Leo, and

693
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: it's like few other people. But it's just you know,

694
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: when you're in, you're inspired by guys that sacrifice themselves.

695
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: You're inspired by you know, metal lawn recipients, um, And

696
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: once you get out, I just I'm really not inspired

697
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: by people. You know, they kind of have ship stories

698
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: are cool. You went to college and so it's a

699
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: top to relate to civilians. It is, um, I've I

700
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: feel like I've I've transferred well into uh the realm

701
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: of you know, the civilian sector and work. And now

702
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean I'll work at a in an office, at

703
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: a desk for a company that manufacturers three D printers,

704
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: and so I've truly transitioned. Do you hate it though? No,

705
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: I don't, um, not at all. Actually, I'm excited now

706
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: that I finally have a resume that's marketable. Whereas before

707
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: it's like, oh cool, you're a sniper. I just think

708
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: to go for free tours, you have to go from

709
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: being a sniper being in war zones to being behind

710
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: the desk. It's gotta be like where's you know, you

711
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: have to find that rush, I assume, which is why

712
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: you take up skiing or snowboard. Yeah. And that's why

713
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: this trip was you know, so awesome. That's why the

714
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: spear fishing and all the traveling that that I've been doing,

715
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, burning Man and and just you know traveling

716
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: the world. Uh. You know, it's fortunate last years in

717
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: seven different countries within forty five days. Um. And as

718
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: soon as I got back from Big Mountain Heroes in France.

719
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: My wife and I went straight to Mexico City and

720
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: we were there for a week and unfortunately, I mean

721
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: the city almost doesn't exist, which is, you know, truly unfortunate,

722
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: but it's nice. It's nice finally having a marketable resume

723
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: because before there was a real rough patch there where

724
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't find work. Um, nobody wanted to hire me,

725
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: and I went contracting, you know, I was working overseas

726
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: and and doing diplomatic security and kind of the former

727
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: Blackwater um and got out of that and thankfully somebody

728
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: kind of handed me a bone, and so yeah, I know,

729
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: I do marketing social media management for a few companies,

730
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: and and I couldn't be more excited. Way way off

731
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: topic of the film itself, but I'm wondering, now, working

732
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: in the three D printing industry, do you have a

733
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: different perspective of the whole You know, after Vegas they're

734
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: talking about the whole gun control issue and everything, and

735
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: I think what always comes to my mind. I don't

736
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: know as much about it as someone like you, but

737
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: with three D printers, it's gonna be a whole different

738
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: game of what you can buy and what you'll be

739
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: able to just print yourself when it's readily available to everyone. Yeah,

740
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: I think in the context of firearms that we're still

741
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: a long ways off, so that shouldn't be of anybody's concern. However,

742
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: it's drastically um advancing prototype and technologies and design and development,

743
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: and it's really helping people become entrepreneurs without having to

744
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: sacrifice all the money that goes into R and d UM.

745
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's way off topic, but it's absolutely

746
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's here, yeah, and it's going to

747
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: revolutionize and change things. Topic. I got a question, Well,

748
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: I got a question for them. I'd like to hear, like,

749
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: were you kind of relating to the film and going

750
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: outside and just the whole idea that, um, I know

751
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: you stand behind in that time when you were struggling

752
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: to find work, Um, were you going outside, Like what

753
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: kind of can you kind of describe like maybe the

754
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: things you were doing or things maybe you wish you

755
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: did that maybe you do now that maybe could help

756
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: someone something like that. Yeah. So, I mean I literally

757
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: I sold every gun, every knife, every watch, anything of

758
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: value that I owned in order to pay the bills.

759
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: I was truly, you know, sacrificing the tay. I wasn't

760
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: creating something go fund me because I'm looking too lazy

761
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: to sell you know, whatever I have of value. Um.

762
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: And it got to a point there where we were

763
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: literally days away from almost unfortunately Mom, Dad, you know

764
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: we're moving east. Um. And my only solace and and

765
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, my wife and I went through struggles just

766
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: because of money and money bring struggles. But my solace

767
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: there was literally it was exercise and it was surfing.

768
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: I would go on eight nine ten mile runs and

769
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: I'd be gone for hours. Um. And that now is

770
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: my event. That was how I got rid of, you know,

771
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: all the stress. Um. That was my my very brief

772
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: kind of time where my mind is clear. UM. And

773
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: surfing as well. And I was really like when I

774
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: tried to pick it up, and I was out at

775
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: the beach every day and I was just trying to

776
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: catch any wave and even when there were no waves,

777
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: I would just paddle out regardless. Um. How did that

778
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: make you feel when you were able to do those things?

779
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: And in those hard times it was medicine, it really was.

780
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: It was without that if I lived and you know,

781
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe some ship hole where I wasn't able to kind

782
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: of get out and experience that it would have been

783
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: to my detriment and it probably wouldn't have been healthy

784
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: at all. And even at that point in time it

785
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: wasn't healthy. I was drinking quite a bit, um and

786
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: I was just trying to do anything to get by,

787
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: and I had some easily job as a bartender for

788
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: a while that wasn't really doing anything. But as anybody

789
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: knows that's been in the bartending in the restaurant industry,

790
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: it's pretty savage. Um. You know, drugs are pretty rampant.

791
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: You know, you're drinking on the job. You're working until

792
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: you know two am, but then you go out and

793
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: have a nightcap with all the other bartenders, and it's

794
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: just it's not conducive to like a healthy life. Um So,

795
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: when I finally threw that in and pulled the trigger

796
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: and went contracting, um and it finally afforded me that

797
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: that opportunity to kind of get out of that rut.

798
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: It was a bad rut. You know, I was getting fat,

799
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: which is it's weird, right, And I was getting fat,

800
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: but I still run in ten miles, but it's just

801
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: because I was drinking as much as I was running.

802
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: Um So, it's it's it's disgusting, and it wasn't it

803
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: wasn't health. So I can be more happy to be

804
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: where I'm at now, to be in a stable career,

805
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: to be home for good. Um. I've seen my wife

806
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: now more in this last year than I did in

807
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: the past six years of our marriage. Wo. Um. And

808
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: so it's it's exciting. That's awesome, man. I'm looking at

809
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: the comments that people are staying on Facebook. Um. You know,

810
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: for example, Jeff on here, I've been on hunting and

811
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: fishing trips that are donated by guys. It's awesome and

812
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: meeting other cool vets. Um. So a lot of people

813
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: could could relate to this type of thing and they

814
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: like hearing about the transition stories from all you guys. Um. Yeah,

815
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: if there's anything you see, Nick that that pops up

816
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: that you want to, uh, let people know if we

817
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: have any questions, but keep checking out, um you know

818
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: what we have here and liking it on YouTube, sharing

819
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: it on Facebook, etcetera. Um. You could find Nick on

820
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: Instagram at end underscore bets, which you always have like

821
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: a lot of adventurous stuff going on. You did burning Man,

822
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: you got matching taco tattoos with your wife, right, that's

823
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: pretty cool. We did a good friend of mine. He's

824
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: a he's a good chef in San Diego and he's

825
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: also a tattoo artist on the side. Uh is it Nick? Well, Nick,

826
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: it's always work done by him, but it's Miggs And

827
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: uh so, Miggs did matching taco tattoos for for my

828
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: wife and I on our risk, just because I mean

829
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: in San Diego, every Tuesday is a national holiday for

830
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Taco Tuesday. So yeah, what's the place to go for

831
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: tacos in San Diego? Oh? On record, I would probably

832
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: say Oscars, Oscars Oscars Tacos. There's one in Hillcrest, there's

833
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: one in Pacific Beach, and they had the best fish

834
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: tacos hands down. Um And then if you're not in

835
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: the fish taco game, I'd probably go to Mike's Taco

836
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: Club in Nocean Beach, which is where I live. Um so,

837
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: I I damn. They're probably pays right, just with girl

838
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: all the times that I go there every week. So

839
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: now that you're in New York, I'm sure you got in.

840
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: Told you in the New York Pizza Yeah, we've been.

841
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: We've been tearing up the pizza, the pasta scene. We

842
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: went to Mamofuku last night for Rom and Wife and

843
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: I are a big Roman fans. Um. Yeah, it's just

844
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: I I was telling miss you today that I think

845
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: this might be the only other city outside of San

846
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: Diego that I could live. Um, but maybe only temporarily.

847
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: I can see how it can get overwhelming. Yeah, and

848
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: every now and then I'm gonna need a surf session,

849
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, some beach and sun. And I'm sure as

850
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: Helen getting that here. Yeah, some surfing here isn't there,

851
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: That's what Leo was saying. So I was like, oh,

852
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: I want to come in and get a surf sessh.

853
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: And I was like, we're in the fucking Hudson. Well,

854
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: I think probably in Long Island definitely. You know we

855
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: have beaches because that's the cool thing. I commute every

856
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: day from Long Island, so I still get to be

857
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: by the water. I mean I'm right by the water

858
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: where I live in Port Washington. So yeah, you'd still

859
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: be able to do some of that. Yeah sounds good.

860
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean Brandon's on his seaplane right now and that's

861
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: in New York, so yeah, maybe he can just tow

862
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: us behind him. On like a wake or surfboard and

863
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: you're onto something. Yeah, I think something's up there. Yeah,

864
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can join you on that one.

865
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: I'll give it a shot, but probably worse off than

866
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: it was on on this one. So who's the next

867
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 1: guy we should grab in here? We're actually going longer

868
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: than expected. But I mean, these stories are funny. Two

869
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: minutes right from yeah, just about, so I'll go, I'll

870
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: go grab somebody. But I guess I'll sign off with

871
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: the one last piece of advisory, whether it's transitioning veterans

872
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. Uh. And this is going

873
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: to be very unadulted and unfiltered. Um. No one gives

874
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: a ship whether you did three years in the military,

875
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: and no one gives a ship whether you did fifteen

876
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: years in the military. And they don't care whether you're

877
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: turning wrenches on the truck or whether you're special operations.

878
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: When you get out, if you're trying to get into

879
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: corporate America, people don't care. Um, sure you have it

880
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: there as you know, a service and and a filler

881
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: on your resume. Um. And it's gonna be tough, and

882
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: get out with the plan and get out with money.

883
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: And the best thing that I've done so far is network, network, network, network,

884
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: Talk to people, go to shot, be friendly, um, and

885
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: don't have this this mentality of oh, screw civilians and

886
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: you know I'm a veteran and and buy into this

887
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: whole Uh, you know, whiskey and guns and and you know,

888
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: tobacco and all the lake. It's just it's a toxic,

889
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: toxic environment. Um. Just now work, talk to people, be

890
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: friendly and offer up whatever you can offer, and it

891
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: will come back to tenfold. And and that is probably

892
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: the best way to succeed what you get out well,

893
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: said man. And I hear it from so many guys

894
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: who come in, you know, whether it's like Jason Delgado

895
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: after he left being marine Scott Sniper, became a barber

896
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: and then got into being a tattoo artist, and a

897
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: lot of these guys want to get away from that

898
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: wife for a while. And it's important to to have

899
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: guys in your community that you could talk to. And

900
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, because as you're saying, it's your experiences, I

901
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: can't really relate to them. But you could talk to

902
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: someone like Leo and these other guys that were on

903
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: the trip and they've they've lived similar stories, so I

904
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: think that's an important thing. Yeah, the industry doesn't necessarily hold, um,

905
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, all the answers for us. There there's other

906
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: things out there. And I'm friends and some working in

907
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: three D printing and in media and stuff like that. Now, um,

908
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't all have to be about guns and camouflage

909
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: and so just expanding horizons and realize that you're meant

910
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: for a lot more than just pulling a trigger. Well

911
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: said man, Well, great to finally meet you. Definitely. Um. Looking,

912
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the premiere tonight, as I know

913
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: all of us that are absolutely and looking forward to premiere,

914
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: looking forward to uh seeing how long Leo can last,

915
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: um and still be you know, present. So I think

916
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to sell some of that suntory that

917
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: over here. Go for it, go for it, and then

918
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: I'm going to grab the very non mustachioed Uh. Yeah,

919
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: Isaiah Burkhart, that's right. I liked hearing your burning main stories.

920
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: I like doing this with you. By the way, this

921
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: is this is different, man, It's fun. Um. I think

922
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: we need to kind of keep it on topic with

923
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: the big mountain heroes, just for the sake of what

924
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: people want to hear. Yes, and also time. We can

925
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: definitely talk about it though at the premiere tonight or

926
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: for the rest of the week over here. Yeah. So, um,

927
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of different people in the

928
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: building for the premiere. I know that Brandon invited, um,

929
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: a lot of media outlets that aren't even necessarily veteran

930
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: media outlets that are going to be I can you

931
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: stat for the first time? And I'm looking forward to

932
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: come on in st Okay. So we got to two

933
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: guys for grabbing. It's gonna be hard to get here,

934
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, like the furthest out should be there.

935
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: So we'll go to Isaiah and then and then you

936
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: guys are gonna share and trying to lean in and

937
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: get closer to the mic so people can hear. Yeah.

938
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: So for those lessen things, well, we have like a

939
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: rough plan that we're going with, but we figured it

940
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: all right. We'll get two different guys in here, so

941
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: if you both want to introduce yourselves and uh and

942
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: your military background, but make sure you're both you know,

943
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: get on mike when when you speak, So whichever you

944
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: want to want to talk, get kind of close though yeah. Yeah, anyway, So, UM,

945
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: my name is Isaiah Burkhardt. I currently live in Bend, Oregon,

946
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: UH and I'm a firefighter paramedic out there, and I

947
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: was in third Range of Italian back in I guess.

948
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: I was in the military from two thousand two to

949
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight active and then I did some

950
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: National Guards stuff. I was going to school but untill

951
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: and now. So there's a there's a pretty good line

952
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: in the in the film you and from hunting people

953
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: to saving people like that resonated with me a lot.

954
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that, um, because I think

955
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: you were kind of sure maybe you were hunting people,

956
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: but you were you were ultimately saving people at that time.

957
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: So I think really what happened is you were saving

958
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: people and you're just kidding inno sense. Yeah, I guess

959
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: if you look at it like that, because like we're

960
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: working together and it's like every time I mean, you

961
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: look at snipers are valuable. Um. And that was what

962
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: I did for most of the time when I was

963
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: in Ranger Battalion, UM. And then actually when I got

964
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: out in doing the Guards stuff when I was going

965
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: to school, just basically helped pay for college as of

966
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: my education, and yeah, it was one of those things

967
00:46:53,560 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: where um learning learning about you know, just the value

968
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: of having a sniper in um that that ground force

969
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: multiplier thing is what kind of what guys say, is

970
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: like having one guy being able to kind of overlook

971
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: and overlook an entire area, which is really valuable. So yeah,

972
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: well I had, you know, quite a few opportunities to

973
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, to take action into certain parts, to do

974
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: things that potentially we're um you know, I could prevent

975
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: um our guys getting hurt or injured or anything like that,

976
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: or you know, prevent engage the enemy before they were

977
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: able to engage our guys on the ground. So that

978
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: was great. And uh and I guess in the similarity

979
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: in my job now having um, you know, since we've

980
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: done since we've done the film Big Mountain Heroes, We've

981
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: had some pretty um, some pretty gnarly calls that I've

982
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: been on and UM, you know, really hard, really hard

983
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: emotionally to deal with, but at the same time, UM,

984
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: quite satisfying some of them, maybe like bad turning bad

985
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: situations and to do the best they can be. And

986
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: I think that's um a lot of like you learned

987
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: that a lot of a lot about that in the

988
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: military and or just my experience the past of like

989
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: how do you take a bad situation and try to

990
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: make it the best that possibly can be, because I mean,

991
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: sometimes you just that's what you got. Since we have

992
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: two guys in here for those listening on the podcast,

993
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: which is you know, primarily most if you want to

994
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: get into your background, sure, yeah, Ben Whitney, I don't

995
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: have any military background at all, And I guess my

996
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: the sum total of my sorry experience in the military

997
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: is hanging out with these guys for a week and

998
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: presently just here to support these guys and coming out

999
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: of Tahoe So and this guy knows that to shred

1000
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: some are and we're here. We're here to shred some

1001
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: pal shreading. Yeah, Isaiah spelled shred wrong earlier on the

1002
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: wall on the UH magnet wol magnet. But I don't

1003
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: know as well. Friends. Yeah, So, what's what's one of

1004
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: the stories that you have from from the filming? We haven't. Well,

1005
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: you have an interesting perspective, right, you're civilian. You're there

1006
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: like you and I and Matt who was the other filmer,

1007
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: we all don't come from the military background. But I

1008
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: think all three of us can agree that we were

1009
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: totally accepted and like immediate best friends with everyone involved. Right, Um,

1010
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: I think I would like to kind of hear something

1011
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: that's in in that direction. Sure, Yeah, I think that

1012
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: the camaraderie, no matter whether it's just amongst civilians or

1013
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: amongst veterans are acting military folks, it's it's something I

1014
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: think that naturally most people really need. And it feels

1015
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: good to have companionship and to be going out on

1016
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: a trip with a bunch of guys who you're you

1017
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: meet somebody like Isaiah and it's he and I hit

1018
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: it off right away. And the the same thing with Leo.

1019
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean the first night Lee when I stayed until

1020
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning just talking. We're just shooting

1021
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: the ship on the couch, you know, we were, we'd

1022
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: claimed the couch for ourselves and we just sat up

1023
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: all night talking. And so I can appreciate that. You know,

1024
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: just why why is this so funny to you? I

1025
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: gotta get you on my this is confused with just

1026
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: make sure the guys we can put on. Put these

1027
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: guys on Ben's that way you can hear how low

1028
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: it is and help us. Oh no, I was just

1029
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: like laughing at them sharing the couch. That was all.

1030
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: It was, like they were cute. It was really cute

1031
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: to walk in there. I'd like wake up and Leo

1032
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: and Ben would be like, well, Ben generally in the morning,

1033
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: like would be just like gung hold, like, dude, let's go,

1034
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: let's go. We're ready to go. We're ready to go.

1035
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: His boots were warm every day. Yeah, like this dude

1036
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: has like the nicest warmest ski boots ever, because like

1037
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: he would run the heaters in his ski boots for

1038
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: like hours every day after we get back and then

1039
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: in the morning you get up early, like run the heaters,

1040
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: just put his feet in these nice soft ski boots

1041
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: like mine smelled like really bad and they were all wet.

1042
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: A few people on the Kickstarters names are in the credit,

1043
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: specifically Red. I'm gonna call you out because I see

1044
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: Red You're in it. You're in the in the credits

1045
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: there for that donation you made. I put it in there.

1046
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely great guys. So you know, you being the guy

1047
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: with the military background and as we said before, former

1048
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: Army Rangers sniper now a firefighter paramedic. What does thrills

1049
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: before pills? Mean to you in particular. So probably like

1050
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: the biggest thing with thrills before pills is uh, you

1051
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: know we're looking at I mean, initially, I went to

1052
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: the v A when I first got out of active,

1053
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: and my whole plan was like, Okay, I want to

1054
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: be able to incase something happens, like my hearing goes

1055
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: out or like my you know, my back is bad

1056
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: or my knees bad, and you know it's like kind

1057
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: of got some shot up body parts. Okay, I'll go

1058
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: and man, it was crazy. I go in there and

1059
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, you know, this kind of bothers me.

1060
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, the kind of bothers me.

1061
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: And then they just like here, take this, take this.

1062
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: That just starts prescribing all this stuff. And I'm like

1063
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: looking at some of these drugs and they're like drugs

1064
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: that they're back from that they were It's like they

1065
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: had leftover stock from guys like from Vietnam. I mean,

1066
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: some of these drugs are like it's stuff that hospitals

1067
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: across America would never prescribe, but the v A is

1068
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: still prescribing these things, and it's it's totally ridiculous. And

1069
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: you talk to guys who are you know, have back pain,

1070
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: and then you got guys that like have sleep problems,

1071
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: and you have guys that have other issues or PTSD

1072
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: stuff and depression and all these things, and they're prescribing

1073
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: the same exact thing for everybody. And it's like this

1074
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: blanket shotgun method and it's just total bowl man. I

1075
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: mean it you can grow by the way. Yeah, I

1076
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's it's it's total bullshit, right, And

1077
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: so they it's not it was something for this for

1078
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: this trip. The value of it is I I gained

1079
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: life from being outside a game, life from um, you know,

1080
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: being with my family, but specifically like being outside it

1081
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: and enjoying the outdoors and enjoying like nature's beauty, getting

1082
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: to experience new places like that is where I get life.

1083
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: And I think that that I feel refreshed and renewed

1084
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: every time I go outside, every time I do those things,

1085
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: and it enables me to like to try to like

1086
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: and I'm not bagging on antidepressants or or things. There's

1087
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: certain drugs that are very beneficial for people. What what

1088
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: we're trying, what I think we're trying to push is

1089
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: how about you try using the outdoors as a therapeutic

1090
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: way of healing yourself and in combination maybe with with

1091
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: some of those if you need them, or if that

1092
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: works without having to take you know, you know, just

1093
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of random pills that like I don't even know,

1094
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: like you know, it's like as a paramedic, I've learned

1095
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: a lot about different prescription drugs, so maybe for me

1096
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: it's a little easier to understand, like the chemical reactions

1097
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: and the biological idea that I have an a biology

1098
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: degree as well, like knowing what happens in my body,

1099
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: the chemical like the bio chemical pathways, what happens with

1100
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: these drugs, and then they're not I don't even know

1101
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 1: if they're cross checking, Like I mean, Brandon's even talked

1102
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: about it before. It's like I don't even know if

1103
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: they're cross checking, like the side effects between. And that's

1104
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: a scary. The really scary part about all that stuff

1105
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: is because you get the more drugs you get on,

1106
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: you'll never get off of them. You know, once you're

1107
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: on them, it's very, very difficult to get off of

1108
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: them without having some sort of crash. Right, So, because

1109
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: your body becomes dependent on these things and they say

1110
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: some of the drugs, it's like within forty eight hours

1111
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: you develop dependency, and the prescription is for two weeks,

1112
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: so they're basically guaranteeing that everyone who starts that drug

1113
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: regiment is going to be addicted to it, right, And

1114
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: so just not to interrupt, Oh no, it's I mean,

1115
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: I think it's it's true, and it's uh. I think

1116
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: that having the ability to go outside, and I know

1117
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: obviously not everybody, but I think the biggest thing is

1118
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: is like microadventures is like a big thing. There's a

1119
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: guy Outstare Humphreys. He wrote a whole book about micro adventures,

1120
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: really great storylines and stuff, and just talking about getting

1121
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: outside and whether it's like meeting up with some friends

1122
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: the night before work, even like climbing up to the

1123
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: top of a peak, camping at the you know, like

1124
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: maybe even the top of the hill outside of your city,

1125
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: Like we're you know, doing something kind of crazy camping

1126
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: out and then waking up early and still going to

1127
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: work the next morning. Like having little micro adventures where

1128
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: you can get these experiences. And like the big thing

1129
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: about this trip was you know, this whole Thrills before

1130
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: Pills thing is just we you know, we were super

1131
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: fortunate to be able to do this all of us.

1132
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like really blessed to be able

1133
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: to go to France. I never thought I'd go to

1134
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: Showy and go skiing, you know, go to Cormier go skiing,

1135
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: go to Switzerland and go skiing. And you know it's

1136
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: like in three days. Yeah, Like the first three days

1137
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: hit three countries, skied some amazing pow like, had a

1138
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: great time, great crew, everybody was The positive attitude was

1139
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: unreal and uh, you know, like the last thing on

1140
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: my mind was like being sad about like my own life.

1141
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: It was so easy to be jazz because I had

1142
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: this shared experience with these guys and I don't know,

1143
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: you just you instantly build a relationship. I feel like

1144
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: when you're outside, there's a way because when you're when

1145
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: you get outside, you just have to like you have

1146
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 1: to depend on each other. Yeah, I mean, I don't

1147
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: know if there's a better way to put it. Outside

1148
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: of this trip, I mean, you've totally dedicated your life

1149
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: to being outside. I think I think most of the

1150
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: people in the film haven't done it in their own

1151
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: way of shape or form um. And Ben that's hit

1152
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: Ben talking about I mean, Ben's a killer mountain biker too,

1153
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 1: and just how going outside is such a beneficial thing. Yeah,

1154
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: I was going to say that. It's interesting how the

1155
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: sport that you're going to do, instead of taking those

1156
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: pills as your therapy, that becomes your addiction. And so

1157
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: I'll find myself a good point. I can ride my

1158
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: twenty days in a row, and then on the twenty

1159
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: one day, if I have some errands to do and

1160
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't get to ride, I almost feel guilty about it,

1161
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: you know. And it's like during during a big storm,

1162
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: maybe you're getting this huge storm cycle comes through during

1163
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: the winter and you've got like fresh pal every single day,

1164
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: and on the tenth day in a row, you're just

1165
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: blown out. You're exhausted, you're tired, you may be slept

1166
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: kind of late, and then you don't get out there

1167
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: and you feel so guilty. Right, even though you know

1168
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: it's healthy to take a little bit of time off,

1169
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: sometimes it just blows me away. I'm like, wow, I'm

1170
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: actually addicted. You know. It's like, and I miss that

1171
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: feeling that you get, you know, that that sort of

1172
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: rush everything, even if it's simple. Sometimes you just go

1173
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: out in the afternoon you've been super busy, you go

1174
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: out and smash like an hour bike ride real quick,

1175
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: do you like ten or fifteen miles? Or you go

1176
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: ski for not everyone can ride ten or fifteen miles

1177
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: that quickly, but well, okay, like you know, you go

1178
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: up to the resort and you just hit an hour

1179
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: of groomers. You just go and make some turns, your

1180
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: skis are on your word and that feels so good, right,

1181
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: And it's just like every time that you do that.

1182
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know that we've talked about this before,

1183
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: but living in the place like band or like Tahoe

1184
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: where we live, well, for the most part um, you

1185
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: can do something every single day of the year. There

1186
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: are places where it's probably not a good idea too,

1187
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: because it's like there's some days that are hundred fifteen

1188
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: degrees if you live in the desert somewhere that it's

1189
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: like you gotta if you're gonna go outside, you need

1190
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: to go at six thirty in the morning. Right. But

1191
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: literally every single day of the year, we're either riding

1192
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: or bikes, or we're going skiing, or we're hitting the beach,

1193
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: or we're playing frisbee or whatever. So I don't know,

1194
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: it's a it's pretty, it's it's addictive, for sure, and

1195
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: I hope that's an appropriate usage of the word. I

1196
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: see people commenting on the Facebook Live about the opioid

1197
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: epidemic and with veterans, which you were just talking about, Isaiah.

1198
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: Uh So, I'm wondering, did you when you said that

1199
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: you went to the v A and you saw all

1200
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: this stuff and that you have a background in this,

1201
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: did you ever end up taking anything prior to to

1202
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, self medicating is as you'd put it, with

1203
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: athletics and etcetera. No, I never got prescribed opioids, but

1204
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: they had, like they were trying to prescribe a bunch

1205
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: of other like sulfa drugs and just a bunch of

1206
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: old stuff that just had some gnarly side effects with

1207
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: some people that you know, maybe you might not have

1208
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: those side effects. And um, you know, I tried taking

1209
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: a couple of them here and there, and I just

1210
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: didn't really notice the difference. I figured it was better

1211
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: for me to I mean, I feel more joy in

1212
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: life when I like even just go for like a

1213
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, half hour hike just around town, go for

1214
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: a walk, you know, get outside, you know, breathe some

1215
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: clean air, get out, you know, let your mind kind

1216
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: of escape, because I think what happens we get we

1217
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: stick ourselves and you know, indoors. And some people like

1218
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: the indoors, and that's cool. I mean for me though,

1219
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: it's like if I sit inside all day, I might

1220
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: be working on a project or maybe I'm writing or

1221
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: doing something, but it's like the next thing, I know,

1222
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I gotta do I'm leaving my mind,

1223
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta get outside. And and um, I

1224
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: think with with with the opioid academic, I mean, it's

1225
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: it's the worst. It's the worst epidemic drug epidemic that

1226
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: the United States has ever seen. I mean it's it's

1227
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: passing like you know the eighties crack epidemic that that happened.

1228
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: So it's a it's super super sad. Um. I've seen

1229
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends, uh you know that I've

1230
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: known from the service get addicted opioids. People not from

1231
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: the service get addicted opioids. You see housewives elderly I

1232
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: mean I go on lots and lots of calls with

1233
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: with elderly people that are addicted to opioids. That are

1234
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: addicted to pain killers that are eighty years old, you know,

1235
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: and you and if you asked them about drug use,

1236
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, it's bad, they're bad. Drugs are

1237
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: bad all this stuff. But you know, you know, you

1238
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: want to be like, hey, you realize you're you know,

1239
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: you're a viking and addict or an oxycon addict or

1240
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: whatever that that they've prescribed you. And um, you know,

1241
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: it's it's terrible, man, and it's it wrecks your body.

1242
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: It uh, it wrecks your mind, It takes away creative thought. Um,

1243
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: it puts you in a dumb stupor um. And I

1244
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: have taken I mean, I've taken opioids before from like

1245
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: postcar accident I got into for some pain. It was

1246
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: like pretty much all it did was make me sleep

1247
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: and constipated, and it was terrible. And I'm like, dude,

1248
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: that's not what I want to feel like. I want

1249
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: to be able to be free and get out and

1250
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: enjoy like life and enjoy of you know, the excitement

1251
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: that we have out there. So I'm seeing some great

1252
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: comments on Facebook, one of which here, Goldie Baker. Do

1253
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: any of you guys have pets or therapy dogs Walking

1254
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: the dog can provide a reason to get outside and

1255
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: experienced nature plus picking up dog crap. I suppose. Um,

1256
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: so I did have a dog. Actually I had a

1257
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: dog until recently, and I had kind of a catastrophic

1258
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 1: took my dog for a run. Um, my dog enop

1259
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: actually jumping into a canal that went underground and end

1260
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: up drowned, drowning over the summer. So I had she

1261
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: was about five days before she was about to turn one.

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01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: So it's just a puppy and uh, anyway, so that

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Speaker 1: was pretty life crushing. How did you deal with that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, given I went like full uh full idiot

1265
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: and maybe right when it happened and basically went out

1266
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: searching for her because this this tunnel that goes underneath

1267
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: basically this big mountain that's outside of ben It's at

1268
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: Smith Rock and there's a canal that goes basically a

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01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: mile straight but there's a gap, an air gap in there,

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Speaker 1: so you can survive it. Like people have swam through

1271
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Speaker 1: it and I'm like, that's water. Scares me too much

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01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: to do that. Um, But so I found out that

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01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: it's survivable. There have been dogs that it survived. Um,

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01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: but it's pitch black in there, and I think she

1275
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: just swam against the current too long and eventually drowned.

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01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: They found her body like almost thirty miles away in

1277
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: the canal. And for me dealing with that, I mean,

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01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: I was wrecked, man. And I actually, like for a

1279
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks afterwards, didn't want to do anything. I

1280
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: just kind of sat around in my own sorrow. And

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01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: my wife even was like, dude, you gotta go out

1282
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: and do something. You gotta get outside. You Like you're

1283
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: driving me crazy sticking around here, first of all, and

1284
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: the second of all, like you you're you're being unhealthy,

1285
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, like you're staying up late, you're not sleeping right,

1286
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: You're you know, you need to go out. You need

1287
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: to go for a run, you need to go for

1288
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: a mountain bike. You need to go do something, go

1289
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: for a hike, to get out and like let your body,

1290
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, get your mind off of that, or even

1291
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go think about it, at least do

1292
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: something healthy for yourself while you're doing it. And that

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01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: was a huge thing. And I think having that support,

1294
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: having I have a really great wife who supports me.

1295
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been married for thirteen years, and she

1296
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: was around for five of my deployments overseas, so she's

1297
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: really experienced, um, what it was like to be like

1298
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Speaker 1: a wife and in the army with guys gone all

1299
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: the time, and then also after the fact, all the

1300
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: struggles that you know, things I've struggled with and had

1301
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: a really hard time when I first got out and

1302
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, got involved, Like I had some pretty bad

1303
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: drug use when I first got out of the military.

1304
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: And uh, I mean to me that this thrills on

1305
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: pillsting is a really big deal for that because because

1306
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: it was like I was, I was self medicating when

1307
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: I first got out. I was doing active stuff. I

1308
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: was like running marathons and I was like having a

1309
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: drug problem at the same time. And then I was like,

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01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: I gotta cut that out, which I bet it is

1311
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: in it as uncommon as people might think. Yeah, And

1312
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean like, I mean there's been some pretty famous

1313
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: marathons in the past. Actually we've gotten like addicted to

1314
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: drugs and things like that, and um, after they've gotten

1315
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: injured things like that, and it always happens a lot

1316
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: of times after people have some sort of injury. Um,

1317
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: for me, it was just like you know, an emotional

1318
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: injury of like thinking about stuff that had happened, replaying

1319
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: certain things that I wish I could have done differently,

1320
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: and blaming myself for them potentially, and uh, you know,

1321
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: realizing after a while, like that's not my fault. Actually

1322
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: finding and seeking help from you know, going to counseling

1323
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: and things like that, and find like I don't need

1324
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: to take you know, prescription drugs to do this. I

1325
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: need to talk to people. I need to share my problems.

1326
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: And I think like this up was a huge thing

1327
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: because we got together and we had to share stories,

1328
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: like collective group. And it's really hard sometimes when you're

1329
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: a military dude and you spread out across you know,

1330
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: like you get out of the military and you boom,

1331
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: you spread out all over the country and maybe where

1332
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: you're at you don't know anybody. You might not you

1333
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: might have buddies, but there are hours away, and it's

1334
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: like in in like I when I got out in

1335
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, out of active it was still

1336
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: very taboo to like tell people you had a problem,

1337
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: or admit that you had PTSD, or admit that you

1338
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: maybe you know, I have a hard time here there

1339
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: with certain things, and uh, you know, it's like if

1340
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: you would have said that initially and range of battalion

1341
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: at the time when I was in, it was like

1342
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: guys wouldn't trust you anymore. They would like because oh,

1343
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: this guy's got a problem, you know. But I mean,

1344
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: I think everybody I've gotten now it's like realized, you know,

1345
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: there's you know, everybody's got issues. We're not. Nobody's perfect.

1346
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: Nobody's like a god among men or anything. Nobody is nobody.

1347
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: And I mean there's a lot of here or a

1348
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: worship and in the in the military community, and you

1349
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: know outside the military community, even of military guys, and

1350
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, yeah, it's cool, you can look

1351
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: up to guys and all that stuff, but you also

1352
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: need to realize that, like, dude, everybody has serious issues,

1353
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: whether you have seen them or not. And but sharing

1354
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: them with people, and sharing them with close individuals that

1355
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: you care about and people that you consider friends or family,

1356
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: it's like there, I don't think there's anything more valuable

1357
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 1: than that. That's the best therapy there is, is really

1358
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: sharing those things. And then for me, combining that with

1359
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: an active lifestyle where I get outside enjoy nature, because

1360
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: like do we have all this stuff out there? And

1361
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean I knew people who lived in Oregon their

1362
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: whole life, grew up and like never been to the ocean.

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01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, you've lived two hours away from the

1364
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: ocean and you've never been there, Like like, how could

1365
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: you do that to yourself? How terrible are your parents

1366
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: that they never took you to the ocean? Like and

1367
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: I know economically some people grow up in different situations,

1368
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: but it's like take advantage of what you have, ye

1369
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: find everything around you. I mean, like what we're in

1370
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: New York City right now, But yeah, it's not that

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01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: far of a drive to go up to the Adirondacks

1372
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: and go out and like get up into the mountains

1373
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: and do some stuff. I mean you can mean so

1374
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: the excuse of of like, oh man, I don't live

1375
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: where anywhere and I can do stuff like that. Like

1376
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: st I'm making excuses for yourself and actually find the

1377
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: stuff that you can do and find something that makes

1378
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: you happy, that brings joy to your life, brings edification

1379
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: to your life. Yeah, I think it's true. You know,

1380
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: you guys filmed this in in Italy Swiss shops as well.

1381
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: You were all over but going around America, there's so

1382
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: much beautiful stuff to see, but unfortunately, so many, so

1383
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: many people have their face just in their phones at

1384
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: all times, and they're not they're not going out and

1385
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: doing things and experiencing nature. So I see the same

1386
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: thing you do, Um, wrapping up here and onto the

1387
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: more positive stuff. Uh, how do you feel like that

1388
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: you're going to be going to this premier tonight of

1389
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: a film that you were a huge part of. Uh,

1390
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: it's very surreal. Um, it was surreal to be in

1391
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: fluance and and do all that, and it's even more surreal,

1392
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: like it's kind of everything comes full circle. It's it's

1393
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. Like, you know, I remember working on this

1394
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: project with Nick years like a number of years ago.

1395
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: You're talking about this project and in working starting to

1396
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: get up the ball rolling, and then all of a

1397
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: sudden it happened. Like I didn't think it was gonna happen,

1398
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: didn't happen, And uh, you know now you get to

1399
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: see Now I get to see the end of it. Yeah,

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01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,520
Speaker 1: the whole fruition, like the whole the whole kit and caboodle,

1401
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: the meat and taters as they would put it. Um,

1402
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm really excited. I'm excited to see

1403
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: the film because I haven't really seen I've seen a

1404
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: little like clips of footage here and there, but nothing

1405
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: like I haven't seen the full product. I don't think

1406
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: anybody has except for the guys who produced it and

1407
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: directed it, and I'm I believe Brandon has. Yeah he has,

1408
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: but and everyone else though has not. I really wanted

1409
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: it to be like the whole thing was being group

1410
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: and being one and participating and doing all together. And

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: I really wanted that first experience for everyone to happen

1412
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: in the same way that the whole thing did. So

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01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: there's also a big difference between going to this event

1414
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: and seeing it on a screen than watching it on

1415
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: your iPhone. Yeah, I hope. I hope that there's a

1416
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: couple of hoots and hollers. I hope some goosebumps rise

1417
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: on these guys. Is uh, you know, If I can

1418
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 1: do that, like, then I've done a good job, especially

1419
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: the you know you guys did such a good job

1420
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: with filming it and seeing some of the rough stuff

1421
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: that we were viewing just in the evenings while we

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01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: were there. I'm super pumped to see the finished product

1423
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: because some of those shots are going to be outrageous.

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01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty awesome. And the film er Matt Hardy,

1425
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: who would come in a little bit films Ski Films

1426
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: um a lot every winter for Warren Miller, so he's

1427
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: well rounded and that's why we brought him on. We

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01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: shot it all on a red um, most of it

1429
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: on six K M all the interviews run four K.

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01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: A lot of slow motion stuff, so it's really high

1431
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: quality stuff. And uh, I think you guys are going

1432
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: to be really pumped. I'd say Nick Kho right here

1433
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: and Matt Hardy for two guys like that are amazing

1434
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: at their craft when it comes to like you know,

1435
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: just seeing the right aspect of how to take a

1436
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: shot or photo or you know, we want to do this,

1437
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: want to do this, just making things look the best

1438
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: they can be there. I honestly have an like been

1439
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: around guys that are that good at their craft and

1440
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: it's really inspiring and it makes you want to try

1441
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: harder and what you're doing, so you like don't let

1442
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: them down because it's like and then they're like, hey

1443
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna do Yeah, You're like, hey, we're gonna do

1444
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: this shot here and you're like, oh god, I'm totally

1445
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: gonna screw this up, and like look all lame and

1446
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: gumby coming down the hill, and it's like these guys

1447
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: are like pros, and it's you know, sometimes it gets

1448
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: really intimidating when you're working with somebody that's so good

1449
01:10:58,439 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: at their craft. But it's like, I just want to

1450
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: give a s out after those guys, because I mean,

1451
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: they are it's legit beyond words. So appreciate powerful Nick

1452
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: and Matt for sure. I just want to say one

1453
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: of the things if I couldn't I said, you might

1454
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: speak a little more about this. But I think one

1455
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: of the things that people forget about spending time outside,

1456
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: especially with even just one friend, one other person, maybe

1457
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: if you're going for a bike ride and you kind

1458
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: of chat on the climb up, or you're going for

1459
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: a tour for a couple of hours and you get

1460
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: to talk, is that it gives you the opportunity or

1461
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: a run, even it was a great time to do

1462
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: it, it it gives you the opportunity to just sort it

1463
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: out in your head. You can just you think of

1464
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: everything and you you you know, when you have a

1465
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: conversation with someone, it doesn't go well, you spend the

1466
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 1: next twenty four hours replaying it in your head over

1467
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: and over, like I should have said this, I should

1468
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: have said that, or I wish I had done something differently.

1469
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: You do that ad nauseum right when you're out there,

1470
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: and you think about it all the time, and it's

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: a great opportunity to just sort it out in your

1472
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: own brain. You kind of I think of it as

1473
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: like resolving the issue, whatever it is, and then you

1474
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: sleep it off and the next day you feel really

1475
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: good and not only are you getting the positive physical

1476
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: benefit of being outside, but you get that really really

1477
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 1: crucial I think mental and for some people's spiritual aspect

1478
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: as well. So I don't know, I say, if you

1479
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: wanted to mention anything in that regard, but I thought

1480
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: it's a good point to make that it's it's helpful

1481
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: in just about every possible way. Yeah, and I completely agree.

1482
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: I think that's um. I mean, I run a lot,

1483
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: so it's for me that that's a big aspect of

1484
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: like my training and stuff. And then you know, I

1485
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: kind of have seasonal training things like I run in

1486
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: Mountainike during the summer, and then my big focus for

1487
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: my you know, outdoor activities as skiing during the winter

1488
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: so and ski touring specifically, or ski mountaineering. So like

1489
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm skinning up, climbing up stuff, I get a lot

1490
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: of time to think about it. At the same time,

1491
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: like going for a run, there are these activities that

1492
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: kind of take longer. Um, you know, it's a little

1493
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 1: different than maybe if you're at the gym, like lifting

1494
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: or something like that, you might not be as much

1495
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: in your head. You're more thinking about like the next exercise,

1496
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: how much time you've been resting and stuff, where if

1497
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: you're just going to like on a run where you're

1498
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: maybe you're not so focused on like, oh, what's my

1499
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: heart rate right now? Sometimes is like good to like

1500
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: take the watch off, take the Harry monitor off, take

1501
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: any of that stuff off, and just go out and

1502
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,440
Speaker 1: like get a little bit of a body high from

1503
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: those endorphins and let your clear mind and let you

1504
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 1: just mind wander into And that's how a lot of

1505
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: guys come up with amazing business ideas, great creations Like

1506
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: that's I mean a lot of guys they do their

1507
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: best creative work when they're physically working out. So and

1508
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's it's amazing, and so it's like, hey,

1509
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: if you haven't tried that before, maybe you could. And

1510
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: if we can influence with this film, if we can

1511
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: influence like even one to a handful of people to

1512
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: like get outside maybe one more time a week or

1513
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: something like that, worth it because if we can change

1514
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: one life, Like I know, this trip has helped me

1515
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: and it's motivated me more to get outside even more

1516
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: because it's like I don't want to hang back. So anyway,

1517
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: I know you we probably need to move on to

1518
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 1: yeh know, it's all good. But I even as someone

1519
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: who doesn't ski, who doesn't snowboard, is not a veteran,

1520
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm relating to exactly what you're saying. I mean, Nick

1521
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: knows I'm very into fitness and all that, and I

1522
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: do think for everybody, whether you're civilian, whether you're a veteran,

1523
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: it's such an important aspect of life. Um, you could

1524
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: follow Isaiah on Instagram at Long Approach to nowhere, do

1525
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: you have anything that you're promoting or we have to

1526
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: send bend text messages updates with what's tough. So with that,

1527
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: I think the whole other guy is Matt is Matt

1528
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 1: Hardy right, I believe so unless Neils arrived, but I

1529
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: think it's playing like just landed. So yeah, so let's

1530
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: grab if some if one of you guys grab Matt

1531
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: Hardy and uh, we'll wrap this up. But I'm I'm

1532
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: really enjoying how this is going. Thank you man, appreciate it.

1533
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: Thanks then, And you know what, you're getting a really

1534
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: different perspective from each of these guys and what this

1535
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: trip meant to them. And I think that's awesome, you know,

1536
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: because you guys all shared this experience, but you could

1537
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: tell in each individual um they're just having a different

1538
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: experience and what and why they enjoy doing this. I

1539
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: think so for sure. And it was really cool having

1540
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: Matt Hardy there as a filmer as well as Ben

1541
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: because the three of us are civilians, so it really

1542
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: brings in a different perspective as well. Very cool. So

1543
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: I guess we got Nick Bett's back in here. If

1544
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: someone just down for you to hang around if you

1545
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: want it, might as well wrap this up. Enjoying the

1546
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: Japanese sabiki and in studio with us, is Matt Hardy

1547
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: just text me the all good? The cinematographer for the

1548
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: movie at Tahoe Matt on Instagram and Nick was telling

1549
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: me that about nine of the shots we see in

1550
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: this movie, all you Nicholls say that, but he helped.

1551
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 1: He helped a ton. You can get closer to the

1552
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: mike by the way, and if yeah, and if you guys,

1553
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: when you're talking, please pass it back and yeah, thanks.

1554
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: You're pretty familiar with that action hunt, Nick. Oh boy, Yeah,

1555
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean shooting this was an absolute blast. Wow. When

1556
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: Nick reached out, um asked if I want to do this,

1557
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: I was really excited. It's a little bit different in

1558
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 1: terms of storyline that I usually do. I've done work

1559
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: for like Titon, Gravity Research, Warre Miller, a lot of

1560
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 1: ski centric pieces. And that's why Nick, I think, originally

1561
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: reached out to me because I had that experience. Um,

1562
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: but it was really cool getting this whole other side too,

1563
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: the industry that I hadn't seen before. And um, yeah,

1564
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: it was absolutely blast to meet these guys and they're

1565
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: super fun to hang out with and it's going to

1566
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: be back. And the reason I picked Matt or asked

1567
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: him if he could, was you have to have a

1568
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: lot of different skill sets right to be able to

1569
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: do something like this. You've got to be able to

1570
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: ski and or snowboard. You've got to be able to

1571
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: handle a camera in potentially harsh conditions. For us, that

1572
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: meant snowy days, deep powder helicopters, things like that, all

1573
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: while mitigating the risk that we're at in the mountains

1574
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: and in US and Ben, we've kind of crafted our

1575
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: lives around being in the mountains and outside. So we

1576
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: have skill sets um maybe that they don't have, and

1577
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: they have skill sets that that we don't have, the

1578
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: veterans and the civilians. So I specifically picked him because

1579
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: he can do all these different skill sets. Well, you know,

1580
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: I also know he can save my life and they

1581
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: know that he can save his life all at the

1582
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: same time, you know. So it's like a very very

1583
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: small type of people who can who can ski well

1584
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: in these conditions, operate camera in his conditions as well

1585
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: as you know, they know not to ski here or there,

1586
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: uh for avalanche risk and things like that. So I,

1587
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: as someone who's worked on on a lot of these

1588
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: types of films, what separates this for you? You know,

1589
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: the veteran experience, what what in particular makes this different? Yeah,

1590
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's definitely the veteran experience and

1591
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: also getting um people that aren't necessarily accustomed with this environment. Um.

1592
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: These guys have been in some crazy environments in a

1593
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: different part of the world. UM. And they're not by

1594
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: no means professional skiers or snowboarders, but they still have

1595
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: the good attitudes to take it in, take it like

1596
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: into the back country and just give it their all

1597
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: in the camaraderie. UM, that's what made it different for

1598
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: me because usually when we go out, it's with these

1599
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: professional athletes that they're living there, that's what they do, UM,

1600
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: and it's more of kind of get it done. We

1601
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: still have fun. But this to me had a little

1602
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: bit deeper meaning throughout the whole trip. Um. It wasn't

1603
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: just like a job, which made it special for me,

1604
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: and uh really made it different from the other stuff

1605
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: that I shoot, was there something cool about seeing the

1606
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: veteran interaction and these guys use this to get away

1607
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: from you know, Isaiah was talking about the whole Thrills

1608
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: before Pills theme and and using this as an alternative

1609
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: to what the VA is doing right now. Yeah, I

1610
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: mean I think it's it's exciting, and I think the

1611
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: message is strong and that's why it's so meaningful. UM.

1612
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 1: I hope that when people watch it, they can see

1613
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: that that's an avenue that holds a lot of merit.

1614
01:18:56,479 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: Um and I did not serve. I don't have that experience,

1615
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: but I know what storytelling can do, and it's authentic.

1616
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 1: It's not like a sponsored ads. This is like real

1617
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: this is real life. And I think the message behind

1618
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: the whole film is is great. So I hope people

1619
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: take away the better meeting for it, and I think

1620
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: it it definitely has a lot of potential in terms

1621
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 1: of the like meshing action sports no matter what it is,

1622
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: if it's skiing or surfing or anything like that, showing

1623
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: that there is this outlet that is different from what's

1624
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: kind of commonly prescribed with these guys for healing their wounds.

1625
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: For both of you guys, IM wondering what was your

1626
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: favorite location you shoot, because there was what three locations? Uh,

1627
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: we were kind of all over the place. UM. I mean,

1628
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: I think we can probably all agree that the helicopter

1629
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: was awesome. UM. I think the experience that Matt and

1630
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: I have in helicopters is drastically different than than what

1631
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: Nick and the other guys have um, you know, helicopters

1632
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: to them probably have meant something so different than like

1633
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: for us. I mean, for me, a helicopter is just fun.

1634
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 1: There's nothing really scary about it, except for the first

1635
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: time I jumped out of it. But uh, you know,

1636
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: I mean so I think that that was probably my

1637
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: most fun part. But from I think, just like the

1638
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: whole project in general. I mean, to see some of

1639
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: these guys like Nick Nick for example, he said he

1640
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: had never snowboarded powder that deep like ever before, and

1641
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: then at the end of the trip he's slang powder.

1642
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: So like to see the progression from from beginning to

1643
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 1: end with everyone. It wasn't just Nick. Um Isaiah broke

1644
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: his ski and had to hop on a new set

1645
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: of skis in the middle of the film and learn

1646
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 1: how to ride new skis and like seeing people overcome things.

1647
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: Brandon funked up field before the film even began. He did, Yeah,

1648
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: he went there. We had a Yeah, we had a

1649
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: series of events that were kind of leading up into

1650
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: this and and I guess it just speaks volumes on

1651
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: the crew of of how we adapted to everything and

1652
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: and how Yeah, I mean, a shattered ski like literally

1653
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: the thing was just flopping on the back and what

1654
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: and okay, so um a part in the film. I

1655
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: want you guys pay attention to you see if you

1656
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: guys can't even see you might be able to see it.

1657
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: Mac um um Isaiah airs. It's at corema air um.

1658
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 1: It's after you guys did the hike up section and

1659
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't air in the film. And slow motion and

1660
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: you can see the tail go. It's like like really

1661
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: really slow, like you can see it broken flapping. But

1662
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone will will ever. I think

1663
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: that will probably be able to pick it out. But

1664
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: I challenge you to try and see it and show

1665
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: me where I'm excited and I'm gonna well know what

1666
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was three countries total though, right uh yeah,

1667
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,879
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean you don't really know exactly

1668
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: which country you're in some of the time. Certain certain

1669
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: ski resorts are in different countries. Because that's what I meant.

1670
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, was there a favorite country for

1671
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 1: you guys, But I guess it all kind of metched together.

1672
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 1: It sounds like the Helly Scheme was in Switzitzerland. Yeah,

1673
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: So I mean I think that's probably that day was

1674
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: special and like Nick said, I was just hearing like

1675
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: I think it was Neil talking about being a helicopter

1676
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: like times or more in that and but most of

1677
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: it's at night with the guns, you know, and it's

1678
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: just for me also being a knick shoes like not

1679
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: not ever having that experience. And only thing of it

1680
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: in a different way is it was really cool. Look

1681
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: see these guys have fun in the helicopter and not

1682
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: and I think that helps heal some some things they

1683
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: have going on. So absolutely, Matt Hardy and studio with us.

1684
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: Nick Betts also in studio with us. Matt is the

1685
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: cinematographer one of the cinematogers behind Big Mountain Heroes at

1686
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: Taho Matt on Instagram. Nick Bett's former sniper, former Army

1687
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: sniper and owner of Crypto Strategic at and Underscore Bets

1688
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Um So, one thing I'm wondering is as

1689
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: the civilian that was there and you also being the civilian.

1690
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: Um soft Rep has this intersection. I think of veterans

1691
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: who read the site, even current active duty guys who

1692
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 1: read the site, and civilians like us who want to

1693
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: learn more about the military community get their stories up front.

1694
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: Un filtered by the media and all that. Um, what

1695
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: do you think civilians can do better to connect with veterans.

1696
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: I mean you just need to listen. I think it

1697
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: comes down to just listening and being open. Um. But

1698
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: they're just the same. We're no different. Um. The experiences

1699
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: we've had definitely can be are different. Um, But we're

1700
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: all humans. We all get along great. Like being hanging

1701
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: out with them in our what the Airbnb the whole week,

1702
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: it literally felt like I've known them before. UM. And

1703
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: I think if you're watching this as a civilian or

1704
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: a veteran, it's really no different in terms of what

1705
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: you're seeing, like it could be. I mean, it's all

1706
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: the same experience. UM. And I don't know. It was

1707
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: really special for me to be able to like get

1708
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: these authentic stories, not through the media and not through

1709
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I hope people know that when

1710
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: they watch this, it's not there's nothing fabricated about it.

1711
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:57,440
Speaker 1: It's all real. Um. And I think the theory or

1712
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: what to take outside of even what the movie is

1713
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be about, right throws before pills. I think

1714
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: something that really stood out to me the most about

1715
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: this trip was that we did have three guys that

1716
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 1: had never served you know, Matt, Nick and Ben, and

1717
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 1: just showing that that camaraderie and how seamless it was

1718
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: and how much we enjoyed each other's company. Like I

1719
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: truly felt like I was with a bunch of brothers

1720
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: and there's never any of this um, you know, big

1721
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 1: dig chest dumping. You know, oh you didn't do this

1722
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: that I did that. That that was non existing um.

1723
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: And actually even more so, I respected Matt the most

1724
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: because the student was lugging around like sixty pounds worth

1725
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: the camera equipment in six and a half, you know,

1726
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: if you'd a powder. I'm over here just trying not

1727
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: to fucking die and he's over here just shredding it.

1728
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: I was like, back, can do it, I can do it.

1729
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: But that's actually not true, because MA can do what

1730
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: more I can, and I can on the board. I mean,

1731
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: he's been doing this for years and clearly I'm sure

1732
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: the movie can tell from the very few snippets that

1733
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: I've seen, Um, you know, his skill set, it's come

1734
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: through in waves and and you know, next with the

1735
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: editing and hopefully they try to make us look as

1736
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: good as we possibly could. But I was always um

1737
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 1: impressed with with MAT's ability to ride around with the

1738
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: ruck stack on skis at that kind of altitude and

1739
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: that kind of train And I was like, you're You're

1740
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 1: cooler than I am. Dude, that's good for you. And

1741
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: I look at them and I'm jealous because they don't

1742
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: have packs on, right, but I get mine time to ski. Um,

1743
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: So it's it's just fun to be able to share

1744
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: that experience with people who don't get to do it

1745
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: all the time and beyond camera, like being on camera

1746
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: is not something you gotta do every day, and UM,

1747
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 1: it's special to just share that moment and try to

1748
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: capture on film. Very cool something we have the brotherhood

1749
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: that I'd like to touch on with civilians and the veterans,

1750
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: UM that I was kind of hoping it had come up,

1751
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: but since it hasn't, I'll bring it up. We were

1752
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 1: one of the day as towards the end where the

1753
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: tour and UM, I can't remember if it was you

1754
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: or Ben and someone on skis and there the um

1755
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: the only two civilians on skis helped a veteran snowboarder

1756
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: and I think it was either Leo or you. Okay,

1757
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: and so and we had to traverse this thing like

1758
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: and it is like so stormy out, it's freezing, it's windy,

1759
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: it's like ice in your eyes. You can't see anything.

1760
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: And they Ben just was like here, buddy, like get

1761
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: up on my skis and like let me help you.

1762
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: Because it's waist deep and the skis with more surface

1763
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: there you don't sink as much, so like hop up

1764
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: on here and like we'll just ski together over this

1765
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 1: like section that's super rough. And I think that speaks

1766
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 1: like volumes right there. That's just how like immediately friends,

1767
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: like is that in the film? That part is not

1768
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: in the It was so there's I mean, there's just

1769
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: so much stuff that you we can't get in the film.

1770
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: Everything that happened was authentic, like I said, and we

1771
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: captured what we could um. But his camera also broke

1772
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: that day. It's just kind of I've never seen Matt

1773
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: so shitty for such like a chipper and like humble

1774
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 1: and and you know, always like outgoing. Like the day

1775
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 1: that the camera broke down, he was like it didn't break,

1776
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: It just took a little nap. It was a little

1777
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: little soggy we've been it was just dumping snow and

1778
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: so it seems like the ship just hit the fan

1779
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: quite a few times during this trip, but it still

1780
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 1: worked out. I mean, it always does work out. You

1781
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: just keep going back and hitting it. But it's all

1782
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: part of the experience. Yeah, I mean it made the

1783
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: trip getting back up when you're down like Brandon in

1784
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: his shoulder, like it's just like amazing, Like I've never

1785
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: seen anyone even think about going helly skiing two days

1786
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: after in a sling with a dissovated shoulder, and it

1787
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: got I don't know if you guys talked about the

1788
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: end of that day, but it was warm, like really

1789
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 1: warm down lower. The guy was really worried about the

1790
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 1: safety and it was a pretty rough conditions um down

1791
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: at the bottom and seeing Brandon go through it like

1792
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: it was gnarly, like by any means, whether you're professional

1793
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: or not. Um and seeing him go down that in

1794
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: a ing and I was just praying, like, don't fall

1795
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: on that sholder. Yeah, I know. His whole attitude was like,

1796
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna go all the way to

1797
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: Europe and not do this. Um, I think we've covered everything. Man,

1798
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't know when everybody else is gonna get to

1799
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: see Big Mountain Heroes. But at some point it will

1800
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: be on soft Rep TV. At some point it will

1801
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: if you contribute to the Kickstarter, you'll be getting it

1802
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: on DVD right or blue right? What are we So

1803
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: we're still trying to solve that problem a little bit,

1804
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: but you'll be for sure be able to stream it

1805
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: on the web pretty soon. For those Kickstarter backers, they'll

1806
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: get like their own private unique code. Um and and

1807
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: then yeah, we'll we'll we'll get it up there for

1808
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: everyone to watch as soon as we can. Um. We

1809
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: didn't really hear a story from Nick though about his

1810
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 1: favorite and uh, I kind of wouldn't mind hearing that,

1811
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: go for it favorite story from the trip or place

1812
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: or we answered. We both answered helicopter, but I wasn't

1813
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: sure if that was the same for you the favorite

1814
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: location of so i've it's it's it's a toss up, right.

1815
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: So the first day I remember thinking specifically we were

1816
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 1: writing in Italy and we're doing some back country stuff

1817
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: and that was the first day that I've done back

1818
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: country and literally just on the other side of the mountain. Uh.

1819
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 1: Four skiers died that day because of an avalanche, and

1820
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 1: that was kind of like I awakened into me and I

1821
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 1: I like, who, Like, this isn't just this isn't Breckinridge,

1822
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like ship's real out here. Um.

1823
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: And so I remember specifically thinking about that. Now it's

1824
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 1: kind of the transition from this is business like, you know,

1825
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 1: let's get out this country that seriously. Um. So that

1826
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: one stood out obviously. The helicopter. I mean that that winds,

1827
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: you know, the the entire trip, um, it was, it was,

1828
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: it was beautiful, It was a great write in. It

1829
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: was great conditions to to come down. And that was

1830
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: the first time I finally you know, picked up writing

1831
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: powder and have done anything like that. Um. And then

1832
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 1: I also just have to give a plug to the

1833
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 1: very last day where it was terrible conditions. We weren't

1834
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: even sure if the mountain is going to open. We

1835
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 1: were kind of just waiting around to see if, you know,

1836
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen. You know, I was already kind

1837
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 1: of broken and you know, super sore and tired. I

1838
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: was eating I think six hundred milligrams vyprof and like

1839
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: every morning I would wake up. But that was that

1840
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: was actually the day where the conditions kind of turned

1841
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: around and the powder is super fun and and the

1842
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: mountain that we were on was awesome. And I got

1843
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: the meeting Anthony Bourdaine and air prepair, so I I

1844
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: could not have been more pumped. I stocked him like

1845
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: a like a schoolgirl. And I've done a lot of

1846
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, personal security for celebrities, uh in Los Angeles

1847
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: and San Diego, and none of them, you know, it's

1848
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: just it's another person to me. But Anthony holds a

1849
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 1: little special place in my heart. I'm a little gay

1850
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: for him. Didn't you go to one of his I

1851
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 1: think I saw something on your Instagram that you went

1852
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: to one of his restaurants or something here. Uh yeah,

1853
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: So it was weird. The wife and I last night

1854
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: we were walking just honestly, I have no idea where

1855
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 1: we were smashed UM and I look over and I

1856
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: see Less Hailes And it was Bourdain's last restaurant that

1857
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: he worked at UM and he was working there when

1858
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 1: he wrote his first book, and that's kind of what

1859
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: set him off on on the stardom. And I saw

1860
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: it and I was like what, And you know, reading

1861
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: his book, I'm actually reading for the third time. All

1862
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: the stories kind of resolve or revolve around that restaurant,

1863
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: and so I had to take a picture. That's cool

1864
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: man like a nerd. So wrapping things up as a

1865
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: reminder to all of you who are listening and watching this,

1866
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: for a limited time you can receive a fifty percent

1867
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Speaker 1: off membership soft Rep TV, our channel that offers the

1868
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Speaker 1: most exclusive shows, documentaries and interviews covering the most exciting

1869
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: military content today soft Rep TVs premier show Training Cell,

1870
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 1: which we could see you on pretty often. Right, Um,

1871
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: you did, you said the hunting from the helicopter. Yeah,

1872
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: I did the hog hunting in Texas with Last Shadows

1873
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 1: on t X. And then I did the Bucked Oil

1874
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: episode and Drew os me and he didn't take me

1875
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, so I'm super upset about that. And then yeah,

1876
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: then Cahill is on the Actually, probably the best the

1877
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: visuals episode was the dirt biking one, the one that

1878
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: just came out. Um. I could not speak more highly

1879
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 1: a train and sell. I think it's absolutely everything that

1880
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 1: that everybody wants it to be. Um, So if you don't,

1881
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: if you're not subscribed, please do because it's it's worth

1882
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: every penning. I think, Oh yeah, so that's better than

1883
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: the rest of what I was gonna read here, but

1884
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 1: just to wrap things up in formers episode and follows

1885
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: other former Special Offs guys um but also and the

1886
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: most advanced training in the country, everything from shooting school's

1887
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:32,120
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