1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hey, Bob night. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: Gel is back with us regular on FT Insider for 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: USA today, and let's get right to biz. Bob. Hope 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: you're gonna have a great holiday. We'll talk more about 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: that coming up, but let's start with some notable trades 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: over the past week. Is the trade market going to 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: continue to stay hotter than the free agent market for now? 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: I think it will. 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: It's going to stay like this until the end of Decemmer, 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: maybe first of January, until this is absolutely exhausted trade market. 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: Then they'll turn the free agent market and say, you 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: know what, let's let's go that route instead. We'll start 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: spending money when we have to. Right now, you don't 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: have to, and you have big uh, some big contracts 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: have been moved that have been surprising. 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: What were your specific thoughts on the Sunny Gray acquisition 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: for Boston and then also the Semian for Nimo deal 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: earlier this week since we haven't had Yon since then. 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: Well tells you a kudos that Cardinals to pay twenty 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: million dollars down to get prospects back. So if he 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: just wanted to have a salary dump, you know, they 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: would have said, hey, bossy, you got it. 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: We don't care who we're coming back now. 24 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: They got you know, two legitimate guys, uh, you know 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: with Clark, you know should be a starter and nothing else, 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: a back end reliever. And you know fit should fit 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: and well as a uh you know, maybe a fourth 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: or fifth type starter. So to do that, they had 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: to pay twenty million dollars. So kudos the Cardinals ownership 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: police doing that. Uh and Gray wanted out Gray also, 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: you know, I think Eric Ludis the other day that 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: he wanted to prove a con pitchion of big market. 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: I think even when eleven Minnesota, he was open to 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: going somewhere like, hey, I know I can do this, uh, 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: you know in the big trade with the uh you know, 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: with Nemo and Simeon. I'm surprised that Nemo would waive it. 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: I mean, he just had his house redone in Port 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: Saint Luisi. Longtime met as for his legacy is Semion 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: did not have a two teams on his no trade clause. 40 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: But it seems like both guys were kind of eager 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: to get out. I'll make curious come spring training when 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: those guys start singing down the more relaxed what the 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: true story was as far as you know, why were 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: they kind of eager to go ahead and lead where 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: they are right now? 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: I want to make a comment on the no trade. 47 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I was never in a position to not 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 4: have a no trade. But I can imagine as a player, 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 4: you pick up the phone, David Stern calls and they go, hey, 50 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: Brandon Nemo, we're thinking about trading you. Right as a player, 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: you have a you know, you feel a certain way 52 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 4: about an organization when they tell you they're going to 53 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: trade you. You know, at some point it's you know, 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 4: they want to trade me, but they can't trade me 55 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: because I have the ultimate say. So. I mean, maybe 56 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: that played a factor in for a guy like Brandon Neimo. 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: It's like, hey, we want to trade you, but you 58 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 4: have to approve it. But my question to you is, 59 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: knowing hein Bloom's connection with the Red Sox previously to 60 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: the Cardinals, have you got any word that Sonny was 61 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: really shot around? Where were the Red Sox kind of 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: the team that he knew the farm system really well. 63 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 4: He kind of identified as a place that maybe he 64 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: felt Sonny would feel comfortable going, and he felt comfortable 65 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: in the return that he knew he. 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: Was going to get from the Red Sox. No. 67 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 3: I think he was definitely shopped around. Remember a year 68 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: ago they wanted to trade him, certainly at the All 69 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 3: Star break, you know, trade deadline, they wanted to move him, 70 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: and Sonning Gray said no, now talk to me in 71 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: a few months. I'll go ahead and think about it. 72 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: And I think when they present to him he got 73 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: excited about it. But I know I think he was 74 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: shopped around. I think sending Gray would I went to 75 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: a number of places. But yeah, hein and Bloom, knowing 76 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: that farm system very well, still got a lot of 77 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: friends in Boston, says you know what, let's identify these 78 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: two guys, and then convinced his own ownership like they 79 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: were paying twenty million dollars to a guy who's not 80 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: here anymore but would get something back. So I think 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: this is going to be a prelude to, you know, 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: trading Nolan Ernado. 83 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: A year ago. 84 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: Ernado turned down to Houston, which was a mistake, turned 85 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: on the end Angels. And now I think he's saying, hey, 86 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: shot me everywhere, and I'll probably give my go ahead 87 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: and they're probably going to eat most of that contract 88 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: just to get some time to return back. 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 5: Do you think too much is made Bob about the 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 5: Nemo departure and David Stern's having, as one writer describe it, 91 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 5: a cold heart towards the nostalgic mets, Like it's too 92 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: much being made about that, because David Stern's job is 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 5: to make the best team based on the start of 94 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 5: next year and not like a piece fans. Everybody will 95 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 5: forget about trades when they make the playoffs, and they 96 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 5: didn't this past year. 97 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: No, I agree too much is made of it. I mean, 98 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: he already showed his hand a year ago. Hey, if 99 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: Alonzo wanted to come back, that their dollar fine. If not, 100 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: so be it. And they were ready to walk away 101 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: from him last year. They were ready to walk away 102 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: from this year too. It's like just saying, oh, it 103 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: nice to have them back. They're saying the right things. 104 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: But you know, if he gets a good offer out there, 105 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: let's see if they want to match or not. So 106 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any guarantee whatsoever that Pete Alonzo's back. 107 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: A little bit like the Dodgers you know, did with 108 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: the Corey Seeger. They weren't going to match that. What 109 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: Texans is offering all right. 110 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 5: Let's look at the Cards return in this trade for 111 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 5: Sonny Gray. Is it indicative of how close hein Bloom 112 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 5: thinks the Cardinals really are. Based on the fact that 113 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 5: he didn't go and get you know, three low level 114 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 5: prospects that have high ceilings. He got two guys, one 115 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 5: who already has big league time, and then Braden Clark, 116 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 5: who just burst on the scene with one hundred miles 117 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: an hour from the left side, seems to be close 118 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 5: to the big leagues too. 119 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: I think just more of a sure thing. 120 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: I mean, he likes what fit did as far as 121 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: can be a fourth fifth starter. Kind of juries out 122 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: a little bit on Clark at an unbelievable first half, 123 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: kind of fell apart the second half. So even in Boston, 124 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: the talent in value intors are saying, well, is he 125 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: really a starter or is he a reliever? 126 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: At worst? They say he's gonna be a strong reliever. 127 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: They're real, you know the ceiling is high, but they're 128 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: reluctant to say, oh, this guy's gonna be an ace 129 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: or number two starter. I used to think for High 130 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: and Bloom, this is more of a sure thing. 131 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: You know it's going to a piece of fans. 132 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: Too, instead of getting three young guys, you're you know, 133 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: kind of throwing crafts on and see what works out or. 134 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 5: Not kind of return is Aeronauto looking at now we 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 5: knew what the return could kind of look like with Houston. 136 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 5: Houston was willing to take a little bit more of 137 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 5: the money and Ernauto said no because now we're one 138 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 5: year later. But he's one year cheaper too. So is 139 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 5: the return just a complete dump or can the Cardinals 140 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 5: get anything for him without having to eat twenty million 141 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 5: like they did for Sonny Gray? 142 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: And you know they don't want him to be a 143 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: complete dump, So I won't be surprised if they do 144 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: this blueprint here and say hey, we'll eat three quarters 145 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: of his contract. 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Tell them foul Territory sent you, Hey, Bob, 174 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: any thoughts on the Kyle Tucker market right now in 175 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: terms of both pace and potential suitors like, have you 176 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: heard anything in the last couple of weeks that leads 177 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: you to believe that there are some front runners who 178 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: are seriously interested? And from a timeline perspective, do you 179 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: think that this is someone who could potentially sign around 180 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: the Winter meetings? 181 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: I think he could s that Winter mings. 182 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: I think with you know Bellinger of Bellingers smart, He's 183 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: sbably gonna say, hey, I'm want Tucker to sign first. 184 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: Then I'll piggyback off him. I can get the tuck 185 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: of money, but I don't have to get that much less. 186 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: I think you know the same. You know a couple 187 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: of teams where the Blue Jays, the Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers, 188 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: there's only I think three or four teams are interested. 189 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any chance in the world he 190 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: goes back to Houston. 191 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: They're not going to spend that kind of money. 192 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: And I think teams, you know, teams like him, but 193 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: they don't absolutely love them. This is two straight years now, 194 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: he's had four second halfs with the injuries. The injuries 195 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: seem like they take a long time, uh kind of 196 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: slow recoveries. 197 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: Here. 198 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: He's not the aircraft carrier, he's more you know, a 199 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: stuff putting player, a very good, if not a great, 200 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: supporting player, but not the guy that you know is 201 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: going to sell a lot of tickets at the box office, 202 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: not going to you know, lead you guys. 203 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: Uh, just more of a quiet demeanor. 204 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 4: Hey, Bob, who do you think is kind of the 205 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: player the domino that everything once he goes, everything kind 206 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 4: of falls in place. Is that some of these Japanese 207 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 4: players that are being posted. Is it Edwin Diaz in 208 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 4: the back end of the bullpen or is everyone kind 209 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: of waiting to put their best offer for a trek scooble? 210 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: Is it Kyle Tucker? Who do you think is kind 211 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: of that domino that's going to kind of push this 212 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 4: free agency thing moving forward? 213 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: I think it's been more of the pitching market. 214 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: I think what you know, I got like Framer Valdez 215 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: could set the market there, if not Emaya from Japan. 216 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 217 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Yo Kate Michael Kain's going to 218 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: set the market or jail in the cates, but I 219 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: think Valdez could. I thought I was smart on the 220 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: edges part of you know, lobbying him, bring him around 221 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: the lobby of the GM meetings and have him meet individually, 222 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: send what exactly happened that night? Is this ever going 223 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: to happen again when you're crossing off to catcher and 224 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: just you know how bad it looked. So I thought 225 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 3: it was smart just for those teams and know his 226 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: real personality, and I think he can set the pitching market. 227 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: Bob KP mentioned some of the Japanese talent. Do you 228 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: think that teams will I don't want to say overpay, 229 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: but be very aggressive to try and land one of 230 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 2: who I think are three potential stars that could come 231 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: over from Japan to the US. Sokomotive seems more of 232 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 2: a high floor guy, Murakami more of a high ceiling 233 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: guy on the position player side than Amai, who seems 234 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: like he's got a little bit of both. So you 235 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: have three players who are not going to all sign 236 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: with the Dodgers. So the reason I ask this is 237 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: this is an opportunity for teams to kind of re 238 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: establish themselves in Japan and try and take a little 239 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: bit of a percentage of share away from the Dodgers 240 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: who have such a foothold right now in Japan. 241 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he might is the guy that everybody 242 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: wants and I think what you know, what happened with Yamamoto, 243 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: especially what he did last year, what he did in 244 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: the postseason. I think people have stars arise now, like 245 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: oh man, we're not saying John Momoto, but he can 246 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: be close. So I think his value is going to rise. 247 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's the number 248 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: one paid pitcher out there. 249 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Murka me. I think people aren't sure what to get. 250 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: You know, hey, a lot of power, but now he's 251 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: going to see fastballs he hadn't seen before. Strikes out 252 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: an awful line Japan. So how much are you going 253 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: to strike out over here? Okamoto? I think is more 254 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: of a sure thing. Uh, it's gonna cost a lot less. 255 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: So Mericano would be interesting. 256 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: You know, if Dodgers weren't bringing back you know, Max Munsey, 257 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: ob would say it makes sense, But he would have 258 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: to wait at least a year for you know, for 259 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: Monthsy's contract to run out, or even you know, for 260 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: Freddy Freeman's to run out in a couple of years. 261 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: So I just don't see a fit there. 262 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: I could certainly see him going to a place like 263 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: a like like a San Diego padres or or Staly 264 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: back East. 265 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 5: I have a question for you, Lance Lane brought it 266 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 5: up on Cardinals Territory the other day. How does this 267 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 5: offseason look if there was a trade deadline in the 268 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 5: off season? Who does that benefit the most? Does that 269 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 5: benefit free agents who have worked six years to get there, 270 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 5: or does that benefit teams who are holding these trade 271 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: pieces that teams would want, you know, or or are 272 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 5: thinking that they want, but they have a deadline, so 273 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 5: we got to get to that before the winter meetings 274 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 5: or by the end of the winter meetings. 275 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: I think it would help free agents, they really do, 276 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: because right now, you know, these guys are taking spots up, 277 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: you know, like it's sunny, great, just took a nice 278 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: starting pitcher slot up. So yeah, have a deadline for that. 279 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 3: I think you make it a lot more fun. It's 280 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: like after COVID season whenever he had like a couple 281 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: of weeks of sign before spring training. 282 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: That was fun. 283 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: It was almost like NBA, you know, NFL style, and 284 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: you know we hadn't seen that. So but I think 285 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: it would help free agents as far as okay, through 286 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: the marketplace. Now they have to focus on us and 287 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: because you know, right now there's so many moves that 288 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: are made in spring training. I mean used to be, hey, 289 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: free agents wanted to sign you for Christmas because in 290 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: the family to know where they're for the holidays. They 291 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: get housing in Arizona, Florida for spring training. And now 292 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: I think guys are still used to just waiting and 293 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: signing even at the start of spring training. 294 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: And we saw that with Bregman. 295 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: Obviously saw that that big h you know, that big 296 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: march in February with a Machado in San Diego and 297 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: of course Harper in Philadelphia. Right now, the only really 298 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: deadline you're thinking about is the Diamondbacks with kids. Tell 299 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: Marte only because he's a ten and five player ten 300 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: days in the regular season, so I think in their 301 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: mind their deadline is, you know, mid April if it 302 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: don't trade him. 303 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: Now he's got ten and five right, so we probably 304 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: never trade him. 305 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think it'd be coold. He like 306 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: focusing on trades from the end of the World Series 307 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: through the Winter Meetings, and then after that you'd still 308 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: extend the offseason, which I think baseball does really well 309 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,359 Speaker 2: with all the signings talk. Okay, last one most important 310 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: at the buzzer here, bob favorite thing to eat on 311 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is. 312 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: You know, I mean I love turking him. I go 313 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: greens and mac and cheese. I love greens and mac 314 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: and cheese. If I didn't have a bite of turkey 315 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: or ham, I'd be okay with that. But give me 316 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: all the greens and mixing it with the mac and 317 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: cheese all day long. 318 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: There you go. 319 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: I love that, Hey, Bob, enjoy it. 320 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: Oh with hot sauce. 321 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: Oh that that was a little sizzle at the finish line, 322 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: A little hot sauce. 323 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: I like that. 324 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: I like it a lot. Well, Bob, enjoy that whole 325 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: that whole mix. Okay, have a great Thanksgiving. We appreciate you, 326 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you. I think next week. 327 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: Sal's great. Have to think you guys. 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Yes, while Eric Kratz tries to prevent himself 353 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: from salivating so much that he breaks the entire screen 354 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: and camera and our whole operation, we are going to 355 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: show you the food that we're working with as we 356 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: build the perfect Thanksgiving platter for your favorite or least 357 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: favorite or a team that you just don't care about, 358 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: but you're going to watch this right now. Ready, Turkey 359 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: is the main piece of the puzzle for the off 360 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: season for you, for your free agent signings. Gravy, it's 361 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: a closer, it seals the deal. Right, that's the finishing touch. 362 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: Stuffing not as important as turkey, but it is still needed. 363 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: It is required. It is a big component of the 364 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: free agent feast. The potatoes are an important bat like 365 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: potatoes on things, giving consistency is key on that one. 366 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: And then cranberry sauce does not need to necessarily happen. 367 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: It's a smaller deal. Some people might say you don't 368 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 2: need it at all, and that is the kind of 369 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: last little piece that you add. 370 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: Right. 371 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: It's not going to necessarily garner any headlines, but it's 372 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: there for you. Okay, Hair Kratz lay out your free 373 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 2: agent feast. Which team are you choosing? 374 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 5: Boston Red Sox. Boston Red Sox are a team that 375 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 5: need take They need to be the splasher in this 376 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 5: free agent pool. They need to bring their plate to 377 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 5: absolutely crush spread like KP after games when we played together. 378 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go right to the turkey, because nobody 379 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 5: ever starts with the cranberry sauce. All Right, you have 380 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 5: to get stuff on your plate before you put stuff 381 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 5: on top of it. So the turkey for the Boston 382 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 5: Red Sox Alex Bregman. Alex Bregman has shown that he 383 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 5: is a leader. He can be this guy on this 384 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 5: roster of young guys that really needs to they need 385 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 5: to learn to win and play at the big leagues. 386 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 5: No better player than Alex Bregman, who never doesn't go 387 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 5: to the playoffs. That's just what he does. I guess 388 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 5: we'll never know was this quote that is the turkey. 389 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: I don't care how much of that turkey, how much 390 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 5: that turkey costs. You got to put it on your 391 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 5: plate and it can take up maybe some of the 392 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 5: rest of your plate. And I get it. I'm gonna 393 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 5: get roasted for not having gravy on there, because I 394 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 5: feel like, when you have your plate, when your play 395 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 5: is full of really good, juicy turkey, incredibly well done 396 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 5: stuffing and mashed potatoes that are perfect, you don't need gravy. 397 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 5: I'm not saying I don't like gravy. I like gravy. 398 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 5: I just don't need it. When everything else is done. 399 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 5: Gravy's for the people who are like, ooh, we we 400 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 5: didn't get good turkey stuffing or potatoes, so I gotta 401 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 5: soak it all with some something that will make it 402 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 5: taste better. So I'm gonna skip over gravy and I'm 403 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 5: going right to the stuffing. They've already gotten the the 404 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 5: comments out there that they're only going after you know, 405 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 5: one a's and two's. Well, they got Sonny Gray, and 406 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 5: the argument would be that he's a three. So if 407 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 5: the Red Sox are going in that direction, I think 408 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: one of the guys that's gonna be about twenty to 409 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 5: twenty one million dollars a year is Zach Gallan. Now 410 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 5: Scott Boris wants more than that, and it might cost 411 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 5: one hundred million dollars plus, but I feel like with 412 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 5: Zach Gallan, I feel like he can have a bounce 413 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 5: back year. The Red Sox are not afraid to give 414 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 5: a guy twenty million plus to start. Maybe the five 415 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 5: years six years is too much, but you know they're 416 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 5: gonna cook in a little opt out. So there's an 417 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 5: opportunity there to get a starting pitcher who, when he 418 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 5: has a really good year, can opt out and look 419 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 5: at the Red Sox. They get out of another long 420 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 5: term deal. So I feel like you can move on 421 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: to the potatoes, and you can mix potatoes with anything. 422 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 5: And that's why I chose Hasan Kim. Now you say, well, 423 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: Trevor Story's gonna play shortstop till at least twenty seven. 424 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 5: Got a team option till twenty eight, but Trevor Story 425 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 5: got kind of tired. Trevor Story can play second base. 426 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 5: This is my Thanksgiving feast, and so I want to 427 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 5: have my plate filled with the best players. And I 428 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 5: think this does an incredible job of shoring up this 429 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 5: defense with a little uncertainty of what Marcella Meyer is 430 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 5: going to give you. Now you have a really strong 431 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 5: left side that Trevor Story could play shortstop, still Hasan 432 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 5: Kim could play a little bit of second base. You 433 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 5: figure it out. You get the best players, and you 434 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 5: figure it out. As the season goes Cranberry Sauce, they'll 435 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 5: say they don't need it, but they don't know what 436 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 5: Tristan Costas is gonna bring him. Reece Hoskins. Rarely can 437 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 5: you get a guy on a one year deal that 438 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 5: is a really good teammate and has a chance to 439 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 5: pump thirty dingers for you. Oh and what else does 440 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 5: he do? He pulls the ball. Guess where he's gonna 441 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 5: play eighty one of his games, Fenway. Reee Hoskins incredible leader, 442 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: will fit into any clubhouse. And I think he's he's 443 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 5: now going to be a full two seasons off of 444 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 5: his ACL surgery. I think I think he will be 445 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: one of the biggest low cost signings of this offseason. 446 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: Wow, really nice, KP. I'm stuffed. I'm actually even a 447 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: little bit nauseous. I mean, this is a lot more 448 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: than you'd expect from the Red Sox here after the 449 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: sunny gray additional already. 450 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: But I like it. 451 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: I like it a lot. Any criticisms here, I guess 452 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: the only one for me, KP that stands out is 453 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: how the infield alignment would look. But I'm with Krats here, 454 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 2: nobody's going to complain about a little bit of extra depth. Yeah, 455 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: Reye Hoskins can be there as your insurance. And then, Kim, 456 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: I know you've got Meyer, I know you've got story. 457 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: Cost is coming back from injury. Let your worst problem 458 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: be that at the beginning of the season you've got 459 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: to figure out a little bit of a pt split 460 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: in the infield. 461 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: No. 462 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I love his point too. Go get the 463 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: best players available, especially middle infielders, and I think the 464 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 4: Padres kind of prove that theory of you just get 465 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: good baseball players that play in the middle of the diamond, 466 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 4: you can find a place for them, and if they 467 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 4: aren't able to kind of fill out some of that 468 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: other part of their list, they have a ton of 469 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 4: young prospects. If you get to Alex Regman, do you 470 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: need some of these younger guys that you've drafted, developed, 471 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: brought up to the big leagues. If Regman's going to 472 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: hold down third base for the next probably he's gonna 473 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: get six or seven years, maybe you can use some 474 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: of these guys to go on and get your number 475 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: two starters. I got no complaints with it. It just 476 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: makes me excited for tomorrow because I love Thanksgiving and 477 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 4: I love filling my plate. 478 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: I'm excited for your feasts. So which team are you 479 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: going to pile up? 480 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 481 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 4: I mean it was a good kind of segue with 482 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: the Reee Hoskins. So I kind of wanted to think 483 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 4: a little bit outside the box here and go to 484 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 4: a team that kind of made headlines the other day 485 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 4: in the Pittsburgh Pirates saying that they're going to actually 486 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: go out and spend some money. So I'm going to 487 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: spend their money. But I also do know how the 488 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Pirates operate, so I had to kind of go 489 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 4: through the list of free agents find guys that I 490 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 4: felt like maybe either coming off a bad year and 491 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: injury year where they kind of are going to go 492 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 4: out and sign the maybe a one year kind of 493 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 4: prove it deal, because if you look at the recent 494 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 4: history of the Pittsburgh Pirates, they do not go out 495 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 4: and sign guys for multiple years. So these guys are 496 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 4: all going to fill my plate for the Pittsburgh Pirates 497 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: on one year prove it deals. And I'm gonna start 498 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: with like krat said, I'm gonna start with with the 499 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 4: main course here and go Turkey. And what do the 500 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Pirates need? In my opinion the most they need 501 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: someone at the back end of the bullpen that can 502 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 4: close games. They got rid of their closer last year, 503 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 4: and David Bettenar. So these are the three guys that 504 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 4: I have options for them. Evan Phillips, Michael Kopek or 505 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: Adjason Foley, all guys that have proven at the highest 506 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 4: level that they can close games. 507 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: What do The. 508 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Pirates have arguably some of the best young starting pitching, 509 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 4: with arguably the best starting young starting pitcher in the 510 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 4: game in Paul Skiings. These guys pitch deep into games 511 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 4: if they are if they're able, if they are trying 512 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 4: to be a for real team and try to make 513 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 4: a push in the division, They're gonna need someone at 514 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: the back end that can solidify some of these games 515 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: where you have guys like Paul Skins going deep into 516 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 4: the games. So Evan Phillips obviously missed a ton of 517 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 4: time last year, probably would have been the Dodgers closer 518 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: this year if healthy. Even though the they went out 519 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: and signed guys like Tanner Scott Kirby Yates to kind 520 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 4: of shore up their bullpen, Evan Phillips has been their guy. 521 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 4: He's proven track record of being able to close games. 522 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: Michael Kopek also another guy who's very capable of closing games, 523 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 4: who missed a ton of time with injury, probably looking 524 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: for a one year deal opportunity to close some games 525 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 4: to kind of, you know, re up his value and 526 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 4: Jason Foley also was a guy you know in Detroit 527 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 4: for a long time that was closing games, kind of 528 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: had a weird year being sent to the minor leagues, 529 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 4: probably looking for a chance to kind of, you know, 530 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 4: up his value, up his stock going into free agency 531 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 4: the following year. The next guy that I think would 532 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 4: kind of just fit perfectly with kind of the main 533 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 4: course the gravy, Michael Confordo. I love the player. I 534 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 4: love the guy coming off a down year, coming off 535 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: a couple down years, actually had the weird kind of 536 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 4: shoulder injury in the offseason when when he left a 537 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 4: lot of money on the table with the New York Mets. 538 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 4: I still think there's a ton of value in Michael Conforto. 539 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: I don't think it's on a long term deal right now, 540 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 4: you know, to the point where he wasn't even on 541 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: the playoff roster for the World Series champion Los Angeles Dodgers. 542 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: I think he's got a lot to prove. I think 543 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: a place like Pittsburgh, with that kind of shorter porch 544 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: in right field could fit perfectly into his swing. I 545 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 4: know he's got some opposite feel power too, But you know, 546 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: I think Michael Confordo could be a great fit in 547 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh on a one year proven deal. The next is 548 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 4: the DH position, and I know this is Andrew McCutcheon's 549 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 4: job until he doesn't want it anymore, you know, I haven't. 550 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 4: He hasn't signed quite yet. And maybe Andrew McCutcheon maybe 551 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 4: decides to go somewhere else, even though he's been extremely 552 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 4: loyal to the Pittsburgh Pirates and it feels like he 553 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 4: kind of always has a one year deal kind of 554 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 4: standing for him, But maybe he wants to go somewhere 555 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: else and really try to kind of go win a ring. 556 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: Marcelo Zuno is my guy. I played with him in 557 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 4: Atlanta and he is one of the best teammates I've 558 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 4: ever been around, one of the most professional hitters I've 559 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 4: been around. Kind of got squeezed out a little bit 560 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 4: in Atlanta because of the emergence of Drake Baldwin there 561 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 4: and kind of splitting the time at the catching DH position. 562 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: But I know Marcelo Zuna has a ton of the tank. 563 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: I know how hardy works, I know how professional of 564 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 4: a hitter he is, and I think he would be 565 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 4: a great fit for a lot of the young guys 566 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: they have there to kind of just be in their ecosystem. 567 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 4: Learn from mar Marcelo Zuna, how he works, you know, 568 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 4: how he can have a professional at bat. I think 569 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 4: he'd be a great fit there. And I think he's 570 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 4: probably a guy who is not going to necessarily require 571 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 4: a long term deal, maybe just a nice one year 572 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: deal where, you know, if the pirates aren't in it, 573 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 4: and he kind of has the type of year we 574 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 4: feel like he can have. You know, you go and 575 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: trade him and go get some pieces next the potatoes, 576 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 4: which are obviously very important, but a little bit lower 577 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: down on your plate. I like Sam Henches from Cleveland 578 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: Guardians missed the entire year, but what a physical presence 579 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 4: this guy is. If healthy, he is a nightmare to 580 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 4: face out of the bullpen. You could slot him in 581 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 4: as your left handed leverage guy. You can slot him 582 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 4: in as an eighth inning guy. I think it's a 583 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 4: guy who doesn't get hurt. We're talking a lot more 584 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 4: about him as being one of the top left handed 585 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 4: relievers in the market right now. And I'm going to 586 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: round out my plate with Cranberry's, which I don't really 587 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 4: even like. I don't put on my plate but in 588 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 4: the case of this, this is kind of just like 589 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: a little sprinkle salt. Wilmer Flores. I think he'd be 590 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 4: a great addition to kind of mix in at first base. 591 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: I know they went out and traded for Spencer Horwitz, 592 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: who also missed him time with some injury. Still a 593 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: young guy, a little bit unproven. You got to give 594 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: him a little bit of a runway to prove that 595 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: he can be a major league player, that he can 596 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 4: hold down the first base position. But a guy like 597 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 4: Wilmer Flores, all he does is driving runs. Gives you 598 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: professional maybe looking for an opportunity on one year deal. 599 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 4: I know he's getting a little bit older there, but 600 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 4: that's kind of my dream scenario for the Pittsburgh Pirates 601 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 4: to take all these guys on one year deals and 602 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 4: try to go out there and do something special this year. 603 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: Dream scenario. I would say, on the realistic end, that 604 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: was really well done. 605 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: KP. 606 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: Krats this guy's different. That was good, But that was 607 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: the realistic what the Pirates do dream scenario, right, that's 608 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: the waters they have to play in, they think Schwarber. 609 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: KP says, you should be thinking Azuna on a one 610 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: year contract he'll probably get My guess is twelve to 611 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: fifteen mil on a one year deal, and that's probably 612 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: the highest paid player in that group that you just 613 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: went over. 614 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean until they prove otherwise that they're going 615 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 4: to go out and sign guys to multiple year deals. 616 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: And I know it's a von Nova because I hear 617 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: it over and over and what was it, two thousand, 618 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 4: nineteen sixteen sixteen, we're going up. Yeah, so we're going 619 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 4: on almost ten years here. So yeah, I found it 620 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: kind of fun. Like, yeah, not to take anything away 621 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: from doing the Red Sox, but you know, obviously that 622 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 4: would have been fun. You get to kind of you 623 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: get the shop at Neiman Marcus where I'm kind of 624 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 4: you know, shopping at Target or Macy's a little bit more. 625 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 4: But I I enjoyed it this morning, kind of getting 626 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: in the depths of the free agent players out there 627 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 4: and try to figure out a realistic path forward for 628 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Pirates. 629 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: I would say more of like a TJ Max or 630 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: what's the overseas one that is popular? 631 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 5: Too many, too many, too many analogies. We're sticking to 632 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 5: the plate. Basically, the Pirates are building their feast after 633 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 5: everybody else has gone through, so all they get left 634 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 5: is the draft, Like is the white meat if you 635 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 5: don't like white meat, dark meat, if you don't like 636 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 5: dark meat, they're getting the like soggy They're getting the 637 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 5: soggy stuffing and not the crispy stuffing. So you know, 638 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 5: white KP. That was legendary, and I honestly think with 639 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 5: the starting rotation you might have a chance of competing 640 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 5: in the NL Central with all those moves. Obviously, you 641 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 5: have to hope that all those guys have career bounce 642 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 5: back type of years, which is tough. It's tough to do. 643 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 5: You know, if you get one out of those guys 644 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 5: to have a career bounce back year, to me, it's successful. 645 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 5: But you can't just keep being the last person to 646 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 5: the table to make a full, beautiful plate of food 647 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 5: at Thanksgiving. You gotta kind of push, You gotta push 648 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 5: to go forward and get the best food. It might 649 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 5: sound selfish, but we're about the w here at Thanksgiving. 650 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is on the phone too right now, KP. 651 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: He is looking at your advice and he's making phone calls. 652 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say all my things are like the 653 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 4: prepackaged turkey. You buy the can gravy, the can cranberries. 654 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 5: You know, not homemade. 655 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: It's not homemade. It's not homemade, but it's pirates offseason baseball. Baby. 656 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: It's very realistic. 657 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: I love it.