WEBVTT - Only One Gets the Crown w/ The Champion 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.400 Hello everyone, It's Devin Simone and I'm Devon Rogers and 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:10.080 this is EMTV's official Challenge podcast, Who. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:10.559 And this is the final? 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:11.319 This is it? 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.159 I know what. I can't believe it. I cannot believe it, 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.880 you know what, not the challenge getting me all up 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.200 in my feelings. Ugain when they did the group. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.880 Hug and like, you know what it in that moment, 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.080 I love them. 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.000 So beautiful and them all standing there together, the final 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.360 five all got across and all completed. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.280 It, and they were cheering each other on. We love 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:34.920 to see it. 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:38.159 Despite all the fighting and everything else, it really was 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:42.320 a beautiful moment. And shout out to Emanuel Just. I mean, 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:46.680 there was nothing stopping. I feel like this man just 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.319 moon walked to the finish line. And then Nourice, our 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:54.960 little injel Maidhood who was fighting that whole time, came 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.200 in second place. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.880 Just I'm so I'm proud of her too. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.240 Oh my goodness, I'm so proud of her. But it 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:02.960 was a great it. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.520 It has been a phenomenal season and this has been 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:12.440 a phenomenal episode. I would like to get into. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:13.600 A little Berna shade. 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:18.280 I'm not gonna shave Berner but Berna did shade Mariah 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.399 when Mariah and Therese are in this elimination, did you 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.319 catch Berna state I would like for Mariah to come back, 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.800 because you know, Narie's great at puzzles and from Theresa's 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.319 great at this and great at that, and I would 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.040 like somebody who actually isn't great at things. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.600 And I was like, wait a minute, Berna just stays 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.360 out of pocket with the things that she says sometimes, 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.960 and she cracks me up. I actually really wanted to 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:45.200 shout out Mariah and how she handled the lost to nourice. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.199 I thought she did it with such grace and she'd 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.800 have a beautiful season, yes, and it was great seeing 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.720 her kind of come into her own. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.120 And yeah, like just shout out to Mariah. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.760 And how she handled that all. I thought that was 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.640 really lovely. It was sad to see your go, but 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.320 like it was lovely to see I. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.160 Feel like ready to go. Mentally, I feel like she 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:05.400 was like, man, this is. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.560 I mean, maybe, but I feel like when you make 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.600 it that far though, it's like because again, that's like 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:12.640 so much of it. 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.320 But maybe maybe when. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.079 I'm saying she was at a point where it was 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.400 like if I witness thing amazing. But if I don't 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.560 like it's not a big deal. 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.240 I think she's like, I got a spot appointment. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:28.840 It's been real, y'all. That was her mindset. But she did. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:33.280 She had a really, really, really really great season. Yeah, Emanuel, 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.120 the champs Champ Champ. 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:41.200 It is wild to me how much Jay targeted everybody else. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:43.240 But Manuel. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.519 Now granted that wouldn't have necessarily changed the outcome because 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.040 Corey was the one who selected him last episode to 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.800 go into the elimination, but it's still just wild because 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.320 Manuel made this look easy, like weirdly easy, not and 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.200 I know that it wasn't, but right like, he just 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.840 had a calm cool when they were doing the different checkpoints, 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:01.800 when they were paired up. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.000 As teams, like he just he dominated. 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:05.160 Was coasting. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.040 And then in the last part of the final when 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.120 they do all the different checkpoints, to believe it was 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.079 what the three checkpoints, and one of them consisted of 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:15.760 the five different games, he just coasted, which. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.919 Is I mean even when in the beginning he couldn't 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:23.440 really get the saduku is it sadoko orku sudoku that 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.600 game right there, said he couldn't get it in the beginning, right, 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.000 and so he was like, you know what, I'm just 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:30.680 gonna go round. I'm gonna finish the rest of these 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.200 and then I'm gonna come back. Other people probably would 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:34.840 have just sat there and like, I'm gonna stay here 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:36.440 until I figure it out. So for him to go 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:37.920 and say, you know what, I'm not gonna let this 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:39.960 stress me out. Listen, not today, say you will not 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.640 get me today. I'm gonna go and I'm gonna finish 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.520 the rest of these and then I'm gonna come back. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.560 Like he just was so calm, and I never was 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.240 heard him complain about anything. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.400 I never heard anything like Berna. I don't think I've 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:58.040 ever so much. We're in the final I think Berna. 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.160 Is just really critical. And my guess is it's a 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:05.200 reflection of the what she heard growing up, and so 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.200 I think her being so critical of herself, like truly, 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.160 like I think a lot of it is that's what 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.640 she heard. And because she was a performer at such 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.280 a young age, I imagine that there were a lot 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.120 of critiques right when some of us were just doodling 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.520 and trying to stay inside the line. She was performing, 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:22.960 and I imagine there were a lot of critiques and 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.760 so she's very critical of herself. It's gotten her far, 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.280 but I think it's not fair to her as a whole. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.760 Like she she sells herself short sometimes in doing that, 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:34.800 and I think understandably. So some of the other cast 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.239 members get annoyed because they're trying to stay motivated themselves. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.960 They're feeling pain and aches, and they don't like, as 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.359 Corey calls it, TJ's energy drink. That is one nasty 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:45.640 as hell energy. 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.880 And it was everywhere. I'm not even playing like and. 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:54.240 Like tuna. It was like a rotten tuna melt with tomato. 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.960 I don't even like clemato juice, so I don't. 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:57.720 I can't. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:03.640 That's just nasty. I know we're gonna get terrible every time, 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.599 absolutely terrible. But yeah, I think that she is tough 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.920 on herself. So seeing Manuel be such a gentle partner, 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.880 you know, online too, I've seen people speak to how 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.920 Corey was a gentle partner with his partners when they 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.760 did in last week's episode when they did kind of 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.039 the the team thing, And I just want to shout 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.000 that out also because I love to see it. Also, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.799 we see him a Manuel come out of his shell 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:27.599 and just go lightning. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.800 But Colleen, Colleen here. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:34.640 Tell last episode to this episode, Colleen is crushing it. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.280 We see her putting that psych degree to use right, 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.600 staying calm and using mental strategies. 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:40.520 She's a good runner. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.599 Like there's a point where it almost seems like Colleen 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:44.600 might be the one to be. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:49.320 She she saw that finish line and everything else got 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.520 put behind her. She's like, I don't care about anybody else, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:56.400 anything else, whatever doubt, I had, whatever, nothing matters, because 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.000 she thought she saw that the end is right there. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:05:59.800 And so once she. 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.920 Got that final checkpoint, that final flag here, and I'm 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.599 not looking back, and she did not look bad. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.680 Yeah, yeah, she really didn't. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.560 I was really really proud of her, like her too, 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:12.839 because I was an impressed. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:15.880 I felt like she was hiding that kind of or 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.800 maybe it just didn't get to see it, but like 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.960 I was like, oh, okay, she's also someone to reckon 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.279 with here in this game. And I don't think throughout 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.280 the season she was spoken about as like this big 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:32.520 intimidating competitor, but like, actually she's someone you definitely should 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:33.080 keep an eye on. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:39.440 Okay, you know, you gotta do it. Gold stars. 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.839 No, it's not gonna do the reunion and that I'll 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:43.880 give us gold star and time out of the season. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:49.000 All right, so of this episode or the final, you 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:49.800 can do either of them. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.560 Who receives let's start a time out. Who gets your 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:53.039 time out? 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:54.360 You know what? 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.600 Truly, I'm not gonna put anyone in time out this episode. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:03.360 I feel well, okay, alright, all right, all right, all right, 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.120 I'm gonna have to give it a quarry. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.080 I'm gonna have to give it the quarry. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:13.080 And it's only because, oh my gosh, friend, you have 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.360 all of the things, like as far as being a competitor, 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.840 you have it all. We saw it in this final, 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.160 like you have it all. You have the running, you 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.600 have the mental, you have it all, and then you 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.920 get to these little parts that terrify you and fear 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.040 conquers you. Like if he could get control of that fear, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.680 oh man. But the way he struggled with that that 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.600 that mountain, and the way that he struggled with the 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.560 damn bridge, the bridge, the. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:44.360 Ball when he was he was like so adorable when 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:45.920 he was crying at the hill. I mean, I want 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.240 pushing to be like go, But it was also you 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.800 just saw vulnerable. He was like a big teddy bear. Nope, Nope, 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:53.600 I tried. 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:54.360 Nope. 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.320 So I'm gonna I'm gonna put him in time out, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.280 but only for two minutes, Corey, because I still want 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:00.680 to give you a goal start later. So I'll put 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.400 your time out for two minutes. Okay, but you you 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.760 gotta go on time out because what was that? What 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.400 with that you could have won this thing? 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:06.960 What was that? 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:13.559 I'm going to give my time out to. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.720 Be to the e r in a. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.560 Even though I can empathize with why she may be 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:25.440 so critical of herself. Berna's interesting because she's both hard 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.600 on herself, but then there's like a tinge sometimes of 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.760 like arrogance a little and so, which I think is 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.720 how people translate her the wrong way or she can 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.840 rub some people the wrong way. But like when she 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.560 was getting the drink that she hated and she was like, 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.760 give me anything else, like why are you doing. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.400 This to me? Like it was very like this is 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:43.080 happening to. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.480 Her, and it's like, girl, this is happening to all 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:49.199 y'all because this is the vital Like it's not just happening. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.560 To an at you and so. And then Also, I 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:53.240 still won't forget. 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.040 I'm still not over the way she snapped at Colleen 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.679 when Colleen was trying to help her last episode when 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.160 they were partnered together, and then she was like, you 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:01.680 can sit here, I guess. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.000 Because there's nothing you can do. 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.440 You can't know. I can't. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.280 So Bernard's gonna have to get by time out. All right, now, 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.600 who gets your gold star of the final? 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.720 I'm actually going to give it to the final five? 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:18.040 Four to five. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.440 Yes, I'm going to give gold stars to the final 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:26.040 five because one all of them completed it. Every last 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.720 person crossed the finish line. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:29.120 And I feel like. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.600 I've never been in the final, but from what I've seen, 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:37.480 finals are extremely extremely hard. So even though there was 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:43.120 a conversation of contemplating of quitting, it never happened, you 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.040 know what I mean. And it got to a point 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.920 where it was like they all made a conscious decision 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.160 that it could be done. Because even as we're watching 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.720 the episode, when you see everybody had four out of 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.960 five flags, everybody the things that four out of five 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.280 for everybody. At that point it was anyone like everybody 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.040 was in it. Everybody was in it to win it. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:06.960 And then when it came down to what you know, 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:08.840 they all cross that finish line. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.040 But I'm definitely I'm gonna give. 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.120 It, especially knowing they weren't gonna get money. They totally 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.360 could have been like, I'm not. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.360 Going on what I'm doing. Yeah, yep, me be back 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.080 later on, you know. 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.040 But that mentality of I have to finish, I think 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.840 that is so, so so good. But my ultimate ultimate 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:31.440 Stars are gonna go to Emmanuel Injuries because I just 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.200 feel like they did a hell of a job. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:34.839 Yeah they did. 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:35.520 How about you? 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.440 I agree with you with all five getting gold Stars. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.640 I am so happy for them. I am so proud 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.360 of them, even the ones who made it that far. Okay, 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.400 you know what we didn't even talk about. That really sucks. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.240 Here's in the side forgive me. It's my ad D 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.560 bring Okay. Usually when you get eliminated in a final 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.360 like that, you don't necessarily go home right away. The 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.920 finals already happening. So that means Jay is like somewhere 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.719 stewing as they're competing still in the final. That's got 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.480 to be like the worst. Also other side note, Nourise 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.800 did again. Ad D Nourise did post on social saying 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.160 about like being kind to other people. And I just 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.160 want to say that, like, we second that it's one 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.600 thing to criticize people's gameplay and all that and have 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.640 fun with it because you know, we go on TV, 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.120 we know that that's going to come. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:22.120 It is a game. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.000 But also remember that people are human as a whole, 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.240 and like, don't forget their humanity and it's a brave 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.000 thing to go and sort of live. 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:30.720 Your life publicly. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.000 So as much as we may or may not agree 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.600 with the way certain people have played a game, and 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.400 I do also think if you talk smack online on 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.880 social media and people come at you afterwards, like I mean, 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.960 you put it out there on social media, but the 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.679 way people play a game. While you can have your 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.240 opinions and thoughts about it, remember that ultimately we're all 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.000 humans and it does you no good. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:51.640 It's literally not. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.400 Good for your health to like be a complete crap 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.679 human to someone else, so like and vice versa. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.320 So just keep that in mind. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.720 I still stay in the fact that Jay's probably wandering 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.040 in the wood somewhere, but I just wanted to like point, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.280 you know, he's still a human as everyone else. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:07.680 That probably really. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.040 Sucked because they're running the final, and same with Mariah, 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:13.760 and like they're probably like in a bus nearby while 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.320 these others are finishing, which. 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:17.160 Would just have to be tough. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.319 And then but they played a great game and they 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.720 got that far and these five completing it, putting their 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.640 all into it. The way they kind of cheered each 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.160 other on towards the end was just beautiful to see. 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:30.959 And I'm so happy they didn't give up. Because when 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.280 I tell you it is I'm old now. I've done 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:35.800 a lot of great things in my life. I've achieved 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.560 a lot of goals and dreams that I set for 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.920 myself as a little girl. But some of my favorite 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.360 moments and my proudest moments, and when I'm two hundred 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.520 and twenty two on my deathbed, I will probably look 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.280 back on it would be completing the finals. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:50.160 You know. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.200 I lost a toenail in one, which was sad, but 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.800 otherwise it was just such a life changing thing for 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.080 me and I'm so happy it was worth it. Was 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.160 it worth it because it's still it's grew back, but 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.440 it's a little crooked. It has like an attitude now 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.200 like it's fine, but I know the difference. But it 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.320 was just a life changing thing. So I'm so happy 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.800 that they all get to experience that. It's really special 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.320 and they deserve it, so gold star to all of them. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:18.360 Honorable mention to TJ's stylist, because I mean, in this episode, 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:19.880 I feel like we didn't see that my curtness, but 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.560 as a whole TJ was killing it. I really liked 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.679 it and appreciated it. Also kind of like the longer 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:25.120 hair teach. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:25.480 It's good. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:30.080 Look all right, now, we've talked a lot, but the 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.359 best is yet to come because. 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.720 We have the new champion. The season was battle for 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.080 a new champion. Well we got one, and we have 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.280 him on here and we are gonna find out what 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.280 is it that makes him so alluring. We're gonna find 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.040 out does Day or Devin's opinion of him change at 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.839 any point in the show. Is he as dangerous as 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.840 he seems to be. The answer is probably yes. But 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.720 you guys got to listen to Fino and some behind 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.120 the scenes things, including a feud with Kylon that we 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.400 weren't fully aware of. So it's a great interview. You're 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.880 not gonna want to miss it. Let's celebrate our Newish 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:08.400 Challenge champion. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.640 We're also going to talk about that debate about whether or. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.600 Not you need to go into elimination to really be 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.960 a champion or not. So grab a snack, do some exercises, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.560 train or run on a treadmill or something, because that's 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.120 apparently the only way that you win and challenge and 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.600 stay right here because we have Emen Well coming up 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:36.440 right after this, Ladies and gentlemen, please help us welcome 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.400 our newest Challenge champion. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:47.000 Immen. Wel woa emen. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:51.720 Wow, oh my god, hello everyone. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.240 I'm happy to be here and talk to you guys 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:55.600 and to the fires. 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.760 Seeing you in this light was so cool. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.800 Yeah, it was beautiful watching you when like first of all, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.680 first of all, even well, where have you been hiding? 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.640 Because you just came out of the gate dominating this final, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.720 Like yeah, dominating from day Like did you kick it 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:17.400 into turbocharge? Like did we like did we just not 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.440 see this throughout the season? Like were you kind of 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.640 laying and wait and letting everybody do all the things 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.400 knowing that you were just going to kick butt at 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.040 the final? Like what was your strategy going in because 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.320 you were just kind of undefeatable, it almost seemed in 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:29.840 the final. 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.480 Yeah, well I don't even know how to tell you. 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.000 The strategy was to to try and do the same 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.040 thing as I did last season, and that's not going 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.000 to elimination. And it worked. It worked. I did have 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.160 a crucial point at one point when we can talk 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:53.960 about it later, which shifted the kind of everything towards 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.440 someone else and not me when I was hot sit 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:02.200 But I don't know. I guess we don't really see 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.520 what I did because you know, the j Think and 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.960 Michelle thing was too strong to you know, get some airtime. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.240 But I think I think really good every challenge, and 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.800 I actually want the challenges that I had to win 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:24.040 to stay safe. You know, Yeah, man eliminations challenges, and yeah, 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.600 I'm a nice guy and I make friends. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:27.880 You know what. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.200 I think it was really cool, you know, of you 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.200 being able to and don't take this in a bad way, 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.840 because I don't mean it a bad way. You being 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.760 able to hide behind Jay and Michelle and use them 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.840 as a shield because we saw so much of them 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.560 and they were involved in so much that gave you 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.320 the opportunity to really just say a lot. 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:46.760 But we didn't, we didn't see it. 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:48.040 I know, I don't know. 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.360 What were you involved in you tell us. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.400 You know, it kind of looked like all I did 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:58.800 was be friends with Jay and love my mom. That's all. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:04.560 That's not all for a minute now. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.200 And the big one and the big characteristic of mine. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.960 You know, I'm not even gonna say it, it's just obvious. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.000 Do you Okay, let's let's tap into that for a 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:16.800 minute even as well. And I love that you're here 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.560 to play. Do you consider yourself a heartbreaker? 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:25.240 I am a heartbreaker, and that's that's I'm so not 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.720 happy about it. I did break some hearts before, and 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.239 I said I wasn't going to do it, but you know, 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:36.800 this this time it was different. I'm I know it 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.600 was stupid, but I was supposed to end this relationship 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.639 way before and I didn't because I was a bitch, 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:49.800 and that, you know, led to me doing bigger mistakes. 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.479 Okay, So you felt you knew going into the challenge, 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.640 how she felt like the relationship you were in at 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.359 the time wasn't one that necessarily was going on. 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.000 Yeah, we knew it was gonna break up. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.080 We knew, or you knew. 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:05.840 Yeah she knew too. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.160 Yeah okay, And then we see you get emotional when 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:09.840 you know when they. 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.840 Do the letters. When you guys got the letters, yeah, man, 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:13.240 I got. 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.679 Two letters, well for my mom and my girlfriend, and 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:19.280 I was wrying a ship in my mom's letter, and 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.679 then it was a part of my girlfriend girlfriend's letters 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.119 that I've read to everyone. But yeah, of course I 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.520 felt bad because I don't think she knew. And then 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:33.400 you know, I guess when they asked them for letters, 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.080 she was so happy to write to me. 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.280 You don't think she knew what that you guys were 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.880 broken up, or that you had you had sister wives and. 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.280 She I don't know. I think she knew because of 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.560 the you know, there's a lot of spoiler accountings. 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.359 Oh you think she's falling along, because I was wondering 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.199 when you said that in your on the show and 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.960 you're like, oh, I don't think she knew. I was like, even, well, 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:58.080