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Speaker 1: M episode three sixty five with Megan Moroney, where I

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Speaker 1: just found her song on on Instagram reels and literally

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Speaker 1: that was it. I was. I don't even flip through reels.

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Speaker 1: Now I found her flipping kind of rolling through. I

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Speaker 1: that for half an hour, forty five minutes. It's crazy

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Speaker 1: the algorithm down. They know where in stadium's algorithm isn't

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Speaker 1: this song Tennessee Orange now not so much a big

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Speaker 1: Tennessee fan. Don't know why I was drawn to it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, with the show that I programmed, The

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Speaker 1: and the countdown show that that I do on the weekends.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm always looking for new stuff to play.

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Speaker 1: You're doing the same thing. And so I was like,

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Speaker 1: So I said, screenshot texting Mike, Hey, why don't we

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Speaker 1: And Christian and I know each other and I've worked

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Speaker 1: together in the past and in a couple of different ways.

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Speaker 1: But Megan Moroney is her name. I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: like this. She went to the University of Georgia. She's

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Speaker 1: meeting a guy who makes you go, okay, I'll wear

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Speaker 1: to the other game. But yeah, she won't really wear

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Speaker 1: and you can tell Megan is too. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I said she had this song, so I want you

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Speaker 1: blowing up. It's pretty cool. This is Megan Moroney. You

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Speaker 1: it's episode three sixty five. Hope you enjoy it. I

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Speaker 1: guess I was introduced to through just scrolling through reels,

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Speaker 1: I remember the volunteers. They're they're good this year, and

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Speaker 1: row and she saying strawberry wine, So country singer. When

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Speaker 1: but they weren't gonna let me just move to Nashville

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00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 1: because I you know what I mean, Like, I think

428
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 1: they were comfortable with me moved to Nashville because they

429
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 1: knew I had a marketing degree in a music business degree,

430
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: and so it was I don't even know where I

431
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 1: was going with that you moved to Nashville. Your parents

432
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 1: were like, hey, but Christian and Christian and Brandon, So yeah,

433
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: they didn't know yet. They knew I was moving to Nashville,

434
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,719
Speaker 1: but you know, with how my parents kind of framed

435
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 1: it too, it's like you can go try and then

436
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, I had to when as as soon as

437
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 1: I moved to Nashville, I was applying for jobs every day,

438
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: and I had to show my parents because they were like,

439
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: you can't just like I'm moving and I don't have

440
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: any plans and it's so what about your influence to work?

441
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: Did then I count that as as well. It was,

442
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 1: but they knew I wasn't passionate about it, you know,

443
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 1: like it was it just it's not my thing. So

444
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: I moved and I, you know, start writing songs and

445
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 1: Christian I told Christian. He checked in like three months

446
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,719
Speaker 1: after I had moved, and I'm like, honestly, it's not

447
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: going great. Like you know, the people that want to

448
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: write with me are like a little creepy. I met

449
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: him at Tin Roof and it's not going great. And

450
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: so he was like, I need to introduce you Julie,

451
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: and so she booked my first co write, which so

452
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: I moved in June. My first co write was in

453
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: December on Zoom with Ben Williams, who has a lot

454
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: of songs with me on Zoom. That's an interesting first

455
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: co write because usually when you walk into a room

456
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: the first ten times, or if you walk to a

457
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: room with somebody who's had a lot of success, you're like, Okay,

458
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 1: the pressure's on me. I gotta the cool, I gotta

459
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: have a line, I gotta have an idea. I wonder

460
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 1: if when you're doing a Zoom was it just YouTube? Yeah?

461
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: I was, Did you feel that pressure? I mean a

462
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: little a little bit. But at the time, since I

463
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: was so used to writing by myself, I would come

464
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: into rights with like four different choruses I had written.

465
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: I'd be like, which one do you like? Let's write

466
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: this one. So I didn't think it that weird because

467
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: I had never written anyways. So I was just like,

468
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: what's up? How to go? How to go? Your first write? Um?

469
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: We wrote a song called Barefoot Wine. It's pretty good,

470
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: but um, did you like collaborating? Yeah? What I found

471
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: is like I liked writing alone because it kind of

472
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 1: you know, it made me figure out exactly what I

473
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: want to say and what I wouldn't say because I

474
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: have no help. But there are some times where I

475
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: can like write a killer chorus, but I'm like I

476
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: need another brain to think, like, how could this be

477
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 1: even cooler in the verse? You know what I mean? Um?

478
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: So I yeah, I love writing now. So you finished

479
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: that first song called Barefoot Wine? Did you ever see

480
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: the light of day? Uh? No? But I still talk

481
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: about it a lot. I think we should. I think

482
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: we should look back at it again. But and then

483
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: when you just start writing every day, every couple of days,

484
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: every few days, Yeah, Julie had me writing like multiple

485
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 1: times a week. I was still, um, when was that?

486
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: So that was December and I dropped my first single,

487
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: Wonder February. Um, and I quit the influencer thing January

488
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: of twenty once I started being like, Okay, I have

489
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: someone that's gonna literally like hook me up with co writes.

490
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: I feel like I have like an in now. So

491
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to stop this influencer thing because I didn't

492
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: want people to like go to my page and be

493
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: confused on what was going on. Yeah, did you have

494
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: money saved up? Yeah? Good for you? So like CBD

495
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: money he saved up from all that? Yeah, that's good.

496
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: It's awesome that you could save money. The town I'm

497
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: gonna play. We have this stupid legal rule now we

498
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: can't play more than five seconds of a song, But Mike,

499
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: can you play five seconds of Wonder? Plea you? So,

500
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: how did that go? You? You put it out? Did

501
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: you feel that people were streaming it? Because now it's

502
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: got a couple mony streams, But back then, did you

503
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: feel like it was moving at all? Um? I did it?

504
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: So I was actually I posted a snippet of Wonder

505
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: because I wanted to release this song called Haven't Met Yet,

506
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: and I was just I knew that I had to

507
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: keep the tickto O content like consistent. Um. So I

508
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: just posted Wonder as like a throwaway thing, um and

509
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: it blew up. So I was like, well, now I

510
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: can't release this other song because if I had never

511
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: had like a million views on anything, you know what

512
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean? And there were several several million views on

513
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: that um. So I literally I got with Julian. I

514
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: was like, well, how are we going to do this?

515
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just put it out and I mean

516
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: for the problem was too is I was growing my

517
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: TikTok and my socials, but I didn't have any Like

518
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: I didn't have a Spotify account, so people are like

519
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: trying to look me up and these songs that I've written,

520
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: and I like, who even is this girl? So um,

521
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: I thought that like I wanted to read the vocals

522
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: on that song, like it just like wasn't exactly how

523
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be, but we didn't have time.

524
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: So I was like, we might as well just capitalize

525
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: on this opportunity. And you know, it's it's a song

526
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: that I wrote by myself, and I was a little bit,

527
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: a little bit tipsy on the beach. So can you

528
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: hear you being tipsy when you listen back to it? Thought, yeah,

529
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: they because we were at the beach and the song

530
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: is about my best friend Natalie, and she was like

531
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: she was kind of dating this guy that was like

532
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: she just didn't know where they stood. And I was

533
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: like having the drunk girl to girl talk. I was like, girl,

534
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: if he liked you, you would know he would not

535
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: make you Wonder. And that's how like that kind of

536
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: came to be. And then I they were I just

537
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: started like I was. I remember being like knee deep

538
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: and I just started like saying stuff and it started.

539
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: Then I had the whole first verseion chorus, and I

540
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: was like, well ship. So then I went back up

541
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: to the house, got my guitar and finish it and surprisingly,

542
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: so I don't really put that in my set anymore.

543
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: And um, I have girls that will come up and

544
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: they're like, why didn't you play Wonder? Like Wonder got

545
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: me over my ex and that kind of stuff. So

546
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: I think it is special, but it definitely wasn't performed.

547
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess for not having any music out,

548
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 1: it did all right. So I wonder you put it out, then,

549
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: what what's the next song that you put on? Either

550
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: Taktok to blew Up or I have Hair Salon here? Yeah?

551
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: Was that was that next or close to next? So

552
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: I put out a song called Haven't Met Yet and

553
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: actually took it off DSPs before or Hair Salon came out,

554
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: just because it's just one of those things where I

555
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: knew I needed something to follow up, but streaming wise,

556
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't doing as well, and it just does It's

557
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: not really me that song. I don't know why how

558
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: I wrote it, but it was like a super love song. Um,

559
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: and that's just like branding wise by myself and you

560
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: don't know how you wrote it. No. I I think

561
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: I must have watched some like romance movie or something

562
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: and felt that way because I couldn't even like I

563
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: hated playing it. It was just I think I think

564
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: it's still on YouTube somewhere, but it was just, Um,

565
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: I knew like going forward, I wanted songs that were

566
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: me and I didn't you know, I want to make

567
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: that accessible to my fans, but not like have it

568
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: be what I'm known for. Let me play some hair

569
00:26:52,880 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: Salon broke broken in a hairslan. I'm assuming you wrote

570
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: this one was a boy yourself or with somebody else.

571
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: So that one was written with Ben Williams, mckensey Carpenter,

572
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: Mike Carpenter, and so hair salon is who goes in

573
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: with the idea? Me um I Actually the first line

574
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: in the song is called it burning that she had

575
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: a ten am my hometown hair styles. Her name is Burnadette.

576
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a video on my Instagram of her

577
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: talking about the song and she kind of like did

578
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: this promo video for my EP. It is really cute.

579
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: But anyways, Um yeah, I had the idea and we

580
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: wrote half of it the first day and then we

581
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: we almost didn't write that day. But by like twelve thirty,

582
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: I had found this random note in my phone that

583
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: was like I heard you finally found the one. Sitting

584
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: there in the chair at the hair salon. I looked

585
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: out the window to keep myself from crying because I

586
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: wrote that because I had a dream about hair salon happening,

587
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: and so dream about hair salon happening me like the

588
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: song happening. It didn't. Yeah, that song is basically about

589
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: your favorite X getting engaged, you know, and it's traumatizing.

590
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: You have a favorite x I, do you have a

591
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: least favorite? X I? Do you know? I guess I've

592
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: never classified mind Mike's favorite and least. They're just all

593
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: and so okay, So you dreamed of hair Salon, you

594
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: put it out? Were you happy with? How? How that

595
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: that came out April of this year? So I think

596
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: writing hair Salon, I was telling, um, I can't remember who,

597
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: but recently, Like, as far as my writing, I really

598
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: didn't start writing until the beginning of COVID, you know, consistently,

599
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: And it took me until Hair Salon to like really

600
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: have confidence as a writer. Like I felt that that

601
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: song is complete, you know, like it definitely was a

602
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: turning point where I'm like, Okay, I can do this.

603
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: This is good, I can do this. So you felt

604
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: good going into writes, like you're actually bringing something and

605
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: that's good. I mean confidence and note when working with

606
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: other people that you admire, it's tough to get, but

607
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: it's it's so valuable to have because you feel comfortable sharing.

608
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: It's a very vulnerable things to share emotions and go, hey,

609
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: how can we work on this emotion that I would

610
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: never share with anybody in the public except for right now,

611
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: which we're gonna write a song about prety vulnerable thing

612
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: to be able to do. How long did it take

613
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: you to be able to just do that? Open up

614
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: with to other people and go, let's create a song

615
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: out of my pain. Um well, I feel like I've

616
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: always been pretty vulnerable, like I will. I'm an oversharer

617
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: if you like, when I meet people, they know my

618
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: entire life story immediately. That's a good quality to have

619
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a songwriter. Yeah, I have no shame.

620
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you want to know? Like we're

621
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: in the writer's room, I'm like, you know, how bad

622
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: was it? I'll tell you? Um So that part has

623
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: always kind of come naturally. But just as a songwriter,

624
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: it's it's tough when you because you just got to

625
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: keep doing it till you get something good. You know.

626
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: That's like the and I try not to put too

627
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: much pressure on getting a good one every time, but

628
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: um Hairs was definitely the first song where I was like, Okay,

629
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: this is really good. Cool. Whenever you wrote Tennessee Orange,

630
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: did you feel like that one was different or I

631
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: don't want to stay better? But I'll stay better. Do

632
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: you feel like it was better than the other ones? No?

633
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: I actually we almost didn't put it out. Um. I

634
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: I obviously liked the concept of the song and it

635
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: was cool and it was very me because I went

636
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: to U J all that stuff, But um, we just

637
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: weren't sure about the timing and stuff because I just

638
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: put out the EP. So it's like, do we is

639
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: that gonna water it down by putting out a new single? Um,

640
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: But we kind of just trusted our gut and we

641
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: were like, well, I write so much that I'll probably

642
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: have another U g A song next year that I

643
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: like more than this one. So if this one's going

644
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: to have a moment, it needs to me. Now, did

645
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: you feel like you were betraying g A by talking

646
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: about because it would be tough from I'm such an

647
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: Arkansas fan, will be tough for me to sing a

648
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: song about even write a song called Georgia Bulldog Love, right, Um,

649
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: you know I put it the end. Sorry, I can't speak.

650
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: I put in the end of the song. I still

651
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: want the dogs to win, and I think I ever

652
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: deemed myself there. Um, But I also make go into

653
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: ug a part of my personality. Like anyone I meet,

654
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I am a ug a graduate. Um So,

655
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: I just think it's like a love story and it's cute.

656
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: So do you write this in COVID on zoom? No,

657
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: this was written um this year. Um. I wrote it

658
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: with Paul Jenkins, David Fanning, and Ben Williams. So you

659
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: go into the room always curious at how concepts end

660
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: up where they where they are Tennessee Orange. So how

661
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: does this come about? Who? What's what's the idea that

662
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: someone has or a line that someone has it turns

663
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: into the song? Um so based on a true story.

664
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: And so I had the in Georgia they call it

665
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: a sin I'm wearing Tennessee Orange for him because um,

666
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: you already had that line. Yeah, got it? Um And

667
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: I it was one of those things where I had

668
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: never written with David or Paul. Ben Williams is my

669
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: go to guys. So I was excited. I was just

670
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, okay, we'll Ben's here, And I'm

671
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: like when I get excited about ideas, I know you're

672
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: supposed to save them for you know what I mean? Like,

673
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: um right, yeah, is that what you're saving it for? That? No,

674
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: I thought of it the morning of and I was

675
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: so excited about the idea that I was like, this

676
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: is all I want to write today, because I had

677
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: like the Waltz like, Okay, this is what I want

678
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: to Oh No, I was like, guys, I'm so excited

679
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: about this and we have to write it. And I'm

680
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: from u G and I don't even know if you

681
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: guys care about that sec but this is what I

682
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: want to write. So how fast did this all kind

683
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: of fall out? Um? I think it was pretty standard.

684
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: It's probably yeah, four hours and then um we got

685
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: I listened to the work tape when we got home

686
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: and I basically like rewrote the verses. Um, went back

687
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: in and chained stuff. Yeah, because I was like just

688
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: I was in it was in the Tennessee orange mood

689
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: that day. I was like, so I probably worked on

690
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: it for two hours by myself. After that, I was

691
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: just like I'm obsessed with this idea. Um. But there

692
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: were some certain things like I think the I know

693
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: you raised me to know right from wrong part was

694
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: in like the second verse. But I in my head,

695
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm like I want to confuse people and like, haven't

696
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: be so dramatic, like no one knows what I'm about

697
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: to talk, like say, or what I'm talking about. Um,

698
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, we did that and then I sent it

699
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: back to the writers and I was like, hey, change

700
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: this you guys, like everybody, So how do you? Is

701
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: this a level of passion about creating a song that

702
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: you hadn't had yet because you said you went back

703
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: home two more hours. If you're writing it for four

704
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: and those four hour sessions can be exhausting, it's like, okay,

705
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: what rhyme's was shirt? All right, and you're you're on

706
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: rhyme zone and you're like, all right, what if we

707
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: and you've done that for four hours and it's mentally

708
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: and emotionally draining a bit? Did that happen often when

709
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: you'd write a song for four hours and go back

710
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: and immediately want to get back on it. Um, if

711
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: it was an idea that I just loved, then yeah.

712
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: It's like with hair Salon. We we took like four

713
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: or five different sessions writing that and I ended up

714
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: like the ending part. There are things that I like

715
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: changed on my own, you know, Like I really I'm

716
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: kind of obsessive with the songwriting, Like I like it too.

717
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: I want it to be perfect, and I don't want to.

718
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: Just what I do in rites too, is that if

719
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: it's not going anywhere, it's not going in the right direction,

720
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: then I stop it so we don't ruin it. Because

721
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: if the idea is really good, I don't want to

722
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: just be tired and on rhyme zone and throw in

723
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: some crap lyric just because we're all tired. Like we're

724
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: all tired. It's a great song, so let's come back

725
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: to it, no worries. It's pretty good leadership for somebody

726
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: who hasn't been doing this for twenty years, you know,

727
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: and it's just you knowing what you want, and that's

728
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: you know sometimes you know, with young artists especially, that's

729
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: hard for them to speak up because like I'm the

730
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: young artist, they know more than me. But the fact

731
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: that you can do that, because yeah, I just don't

732
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: want to waste anyone's time because I'm this song, like

733
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: a song like Tennessee Orange two is so specific to me.

734
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: It's not like we can go pitch that to all

735
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: of Nashville. So because it's like such a me song, Um,

736
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that it was right,

737
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: and eventually it wasn't but even I thought about I

738
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: guess because I had worked on it for so long.

739
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: I sent it to everybody and I'm like, I just

740
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: don't know if the course melodies right, like it needs

741
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: to change or go somewhere else, and they're like, we

742
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. This is great. So

743
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: it was streamed. I looked one million times in five days,

744
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: which is very impressive for an independent artist. And does

745
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: that does that feel different? No? Not really. I'm still

746
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: just a number, but it's just but as it's happening

747
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: though it's just a number, or you're like, dang, this

748
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: song is really crushing it right now? Like, are you

749
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: like different than hair salon? Different than um? I mean,

750
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: it's definitely cool, um, but nothing crazy, nothing like all right,

751
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm about to be famous, nothing like I'm yeah. No.

752
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: I It's been really cool to see that many people

753
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: you know relate to. It's really popped off on TikTok um.

754
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: There's like a trend where people it's like for couples,

755
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, and they kind of make it their own,

756
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: which I think is cool. Does everybody ask you who

757
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: the Tennessee person is? What's your standard answer? I cannot

758
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: confirm or deny. But they didn't. But you didn't say

759
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even ask who it was. That's not the

760
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: answer to that question exactly. But whatever, whoever the question

761
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: is about. But but I didn't ask about somebody. I

762
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: cannot say yes or no. But I didn't ask it

763
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: yes or no question. I just I'm not saying is

764
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: it anybody specifically? I'm saying people are asking who it is?

765
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: If they say who is it? What do you say?

766
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: You're not saying will you ever say? No? Ever? Did

767
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: you make it? Make a person up? Okay, that's odd.

768
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't care who it is.

769
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna write songs about so many people probably over

770
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: the next ten years that you know, this is something

771
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: that you'll always probably have to deal with. I think

772
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: it's I mean, why would I say to you know?

773
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: It ruins the speculation. And it also if you put

774
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: a face or a name with something that people can

775
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: relate their own stories to, it may take away from

776
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: them being able to relate their own story if they're

777
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: seeing somebody else there right. I don't even know if

778
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: that makes sense. But a lot of times when I

779
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: find out who songs are written about I can only

780
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: think about that. I can't even insert my story into it.

781
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: Because songs are written a lot of times. I'll take

782
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: a message from it. You didn't mean to put in

783
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: it right, and you've done that type of songs. Didn't

784
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: hurt songs. You're like, oh, I feel this way about it.

785
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: But if I knew who it was, it was some

786
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: getting Benjie, I would be like, I gonna think about Benjie.

787
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there are a lot of people who

788
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: relate to having to like a team or change something

789
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: about them because it's somebody that they're gonna fall for.

790
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: I hate Oklahoma. My wife's an Oklahoma fan, and it's

791
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: hard for me to root for Oklahoma. But you know

792
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: what I did very exactly. I actually so my mom

793
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: is like a die hard Georgia fan and I sing

794
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: hear the song and she was so mad at me.

795
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: That's like she was like that gaudy orange Like That's

796
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: why I asked, was it hard to sing? And I

797
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: mean even in the video there's there's a lot of orange.

798
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: Is the one I saw in? Yeah, we'll see. I

799
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: have a show coming up in Athens, so um, I'm

800
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: a little nervous to play it, but hopefully she's like

801
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: the most loyal fan off the stage. Food on the day.

802
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys have to wait to end a

803
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: still on the Dog's on The timing is pretty perfect.

804
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: That was college football happening and both schools being really good.

805
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: Like that was out on purpose. Um, we knew that

806
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: we had to put it out football season if we

807
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: were going to do it. That's why it was kind

808
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: of rushed, like we tracked, I did vocals, mixed and

809
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: master the same day, get it uploaded on time. So

810
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: are some of the people that reached down to think

811
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: it's a good song that you're like, dang, you actually

812
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: heard that. That's pretty cool? Um Dan from Dan and

813
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: Chay And I'm trying to think there's been a lot

814
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: of people super supportive, so it's been cool. Actually, um,

815
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: this is random, but Nick Saban's daughter posted it, and

816
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: so this is the closest thing I'll get to liking Tennessee.

817
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: Just like that's pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool. I mean

818
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: Nick Savan's daughter, that's one step away from freaking Nick Saban,

819
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: who I hate Alabama, but you gotta respect Nick Shaven

820
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: in your family. It's a pretty passionate football group fan group.

821
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: When we lost the National Championship when I was a sophomore,

822
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: my mom didn't speak to anyone for like two What

823
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: about when you want it though? Oh? Best day ever?

824
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Did you go to the game? Um? I went to

825
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: the National Championship that we lost. I didn't make it

826
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 1: to the and you went to one you lost? Yeah,

827
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: that was tough, tough. That had been real hard. I

828
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: mean we lost a texas An this week and I

829
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: wanted to just jump off the I was in Vegas,

830
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: like twenty stories. I just want to jump off in

831
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: a quick mood. Ruiner sucked. Will you wear Tennessee orange

832
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: when you perform? Ever? Let's say they say, hey you

833
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: have to. Will you wear volunteer orange as as part

834
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: of some sort of performer Let's say game day. Well,

835
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to the U g A yout game this year,

836
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: but I will be in Georgia red. I think if

837
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: I was in Knoxville and I had enough Margaritea's in me,

838
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: I could be convinced to where something orange. Have you

839
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: heard it on the radio yet? No, that'd be pretty cool.

840
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: Are the radio radio or whatever? Yeah? I know that

841
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: the Highway plays it but I haven't. I still have

842
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: a twenty tip mustin so it's hard for me to

843
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: listen to we um I program a national show. It's

844
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: the The Women to Buy Our Country Show, and so

845
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna play that this weekend, right, Mike, We're gonna

846
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: play it. Then I'll tell you what this whnes is

847
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: coming out this Thursday Thursday. If you what time to

848
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning when the sun comes up

849
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: seven am? Really I'll change Oh man, I'll change your

850
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: morning person. Um. Yeah, why don't we play it on

851
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: the show tomorrow morning? And if we'll just tell you

852
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: when and you listen and you can hear it for

853
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: the first time. Amazing. Yeah, that'd be cool. I'm probably

854
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: gonna cry, so, I mean, it won't be with me.

855
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 1: I don't care to cry away. I have no idea

856
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: if you're crying or not. So how at it? So

857
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: why don't we do it? Mike? Um do it. Let's

858
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: do it in like the eight B segment, which will

859
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: be like eight ten, eight ten to eight twenty. So

860
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: if you wake up tomorrow eight ten to eighty, you

861
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: gotta confirm to me you're gonna be awake, like you're

862
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: not going to ten roof tonight, you're gonna be a

863
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: four am. I where will I be? I'm actually a

864
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: bus call tonight. Uh, where will you be? Indiana? Maybe

865
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: you're still on the way. Is there a radio? How

866
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: do you listen to the well? A couple of ways?

867
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: A couple of a couple of ways. So we're a

868
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: national show, so there, we're on stations all over the country,

869
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: but you can always just listen on the app that's

870
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: live too. Before you leave, we will tell you amazing, right, Mike,

871
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: because you could hear it on the Apple or something definitely,

872
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: or we can wait till you get back. It's up

873
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: to you. I'll figure it out. I'm down to figure

874
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: out whatever. I'll tell you what. Let's let's record right now, Mike,

875
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: and we'll just leave this in the podcast to a

876
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: small segment that will play tomorrow on the show as well,

877
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: leading into the song, and then we'll have the whole thing.

878
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: You'll be on the show tomorrow and we'll play a

879
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: little clip here that we're about to record, and then

880
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: we'll play this song. It'll be awesome. That's so cool. Okay,

881
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: so thank you well, time this starting here, and then

882
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you probably a question I just asked you.

883
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: But we're gonna simplify because on the radio show we have,

884
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: like I mean, we're on for five hours, but I

885
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: can't go on for an hour without breaking for commercials,

886
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: so things are a little more tight. So I'm gonna

887
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: ask you again some very simple questions. Be concise, pretty simple, easy,

888
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: and then we'll cut it up and play it tomorrow

889
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: before the song. Okay, good, okay, cool, here we go.

890
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: Let's nervous. Now, well, there doesn't need to be nervous.

891
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: We're doing the same thing and we can edit it

892
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: and we can edit it. So we're here with Okay,

893
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: we go. We're here with Megan Moroney. Who Megan? How

894
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: long have you lived in Nashville? Two years? And so

895
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: in that two years you have written a lot on Zoom.

896
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: You've written a lot with folks. You've written a lot

897
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: of songs that have gone viral and you know, had

898
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: millions of streams as well. But now you have this

899
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: monster called Tennessee Orange. But the weird part about it

900
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: is you're not a Tennessee fan, are you know you are?

901
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: You're an absolute diehard Georgia fan, Georgia bulldog fan, and

902
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: when you wrote this song, your mom told you she

903
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: was not happy. Oh yeah, I got the wrath. Has

904
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: the University of Tennessee sent you any stuff yet they

905
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: have not. No one's reached out to get Tennessee stuff. No,

906
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: And I'm scared to reach out to Georgia. Yeah, it

907
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: would be too, I'd be a little nervous about that too.

908
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: You grew up in Georgia. What was the name of

909
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: your town, Douglas And then what's the Douglas film mascot? Like,

910
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: you're you're high school a cougar. You thought that a

911
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: literation like Douglasville Demons. We were the Alexander Cougars. So

912
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: it was alex Yeah, Alexander. What's a alliteration Alexander Yeah,

913
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: a packers allator, yeah, alligator. Yeah. So so you're a cougar.

914
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: But then you're a bulldog when you go to the

915
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: University of Georgia and you study accounting because you wanted

916
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: to be possibly what an account just traight up accounting.

917
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: You've come a long way from tax care taker to musician. Uh,

918
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: you come to Nashville and you're you're in Nashville for

919
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: how long as you write this song? Yes, that was

920
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: a year and a half. So you're here for a

921
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: year and a half, you write this song. Do you

922
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: know what's an instant hit? Because I just I don't know.

923
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of I spent like six hours

924
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: writing it. So was it? Sure? It gets millions of

925
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: streams in the first week that it's out, and you're

926
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: feeling in love from a lot of people. Dan from

927
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: Dan and Shay each child I see. I mean I

928
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: saw it on reels on Instagram the first time that

929
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: I that. I think I wrote something like the song

930
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: is awesome or something like that, and so here we are,

931
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna play it today. How would you describe this

932
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: song Tennessee Orange, because it's not exactly you being a

933
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: Tennessee fan, it's you being a fan of somebody who's

934
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: a Tennessee fan. Yeah, so describe this song in like

935
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty seconds exactly what you were thinking and what

936
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: you wanted to get out there. Um, I remember describing

937
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: this is the closest thing I could write to a

938
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: love song. Um, it's not super crazy, but I would

939
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: wear a color for you, and I think being from

940
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: the South and being a U J grad, Um that

941
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: says a lot. If I'm willing to wear Tennessee orange,

942
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: that says a whole lot. Yeah, I'm I won't wear

943
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: Oklahoma red from my wife, So still still want to

944
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: do it. Okay, here is Tennessee Orange. Now, do you

945
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: say who you wrote it about? Okay? No, she doesn't know.

946
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: She neither confirms nor denies that she even wrote the song.

947
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: Megan Moroney, here is Tennessee Orange. The first time we've

948
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: played it here on the Bobby Bones Show. See look,

949
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: that's it. That's so cool. You gotta have a little

950
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: more energy when you like we did, because it was like,

951
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: this is how I normally talk about But then it's like,

952
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: here we go, I gotta talk that's so cool. So

953
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: we'll put that on tomorrow and by the time people

954
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: hear this, I guess that will be yesterday, right, Mike, um,

955
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: So we'll figure out a way for you to listen

956
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: to it, and it'll be super cool. I don't know

957
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: what else except to be super cool, and it will

958
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: probably turn into a superstar immediately. Anytime I play a song,

959
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: people become miss a millionaires. Haven't you heard? I have

960
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: not heard? That's that's kind of word going. Incredible and

961
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: it's incredible. Your EP pistol made of Roses? Why the name?

962
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: So that's a lyric and I love me the first

963
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: track um, and I just feel like it kind of

964
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: encompasses the whole record. There's like sad songs, but there's

965
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: also songs that don't mess with me, and I feel

966
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: like that's kind of who I am. I think on

967
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: your your bio on one of your accounts, it was

968
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: like emo cow girl. What does the professional emo cowgirl?

969
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: What does that mean? And why those words? Um? Because

970
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: I am professionally am oceanal in the country genre. How

971
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: would your friends describe you? If if I were just

972
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: to see one of them out and I was like, hey,

973
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: you know who I met? He was hanging out and

974
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: talking to Megan. What does she like as a person? Um,

975
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm definitely the uh my mood I feel like dictates

976
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: the group, you know if I That's why I know

977
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: if I'm not in a good mood, I just don't

978
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: go out because I'll bring everyone down somehow. But I'm

979
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: kind of expected to like be the um extroverted. You

980
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of energy, I do. Yeah, you get

981
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: energy from being around people. Yeah, So I love being

982
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: with people, But then I also love being alone and

983
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: isolating myself until I'm recharged. Yeah, that's I was gonna say,

984
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: So you isolate, recharge and then I'm ready to spend

985
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: it all out with them, right yeah, okay, all right,

986
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: Well I think we've said it all, Mike, what do

987
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: you think anything anything I've missed? I think we got

988
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: it all. So tell your brother and your dad they

989
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: should be part of the family, the new family band,

990
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: the Megamoni band, the Mega Money experience, That's probably what

991
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: it is, right, And then they moved to town. What's

992
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: your dad do? My dad is in aerospace metal sales.

993
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 1: So your dad's in aerospace and your brother's a lawyer. Yeah,

994
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: but my other brothers and nurse, they're all doing like

995
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: such different and all are awesome and all are extremely difficult,

996
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: but that is a whole different path. Yea. What your

997
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: parents think about right now where you are in the

998
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,479
Speaker 1: stage of your career. Are they proud of you? Oh? Yeah?

999
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: They think they can't even really Like I told them

1000
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: I was how to interview with you, and they were

1001
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: like Bobby the Bobby um, And I'm like yeah, yeah,

1002
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: And it's just they it's funny. They they're just small

1003
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: town people, you know what I mean. So when I

1004
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: tell them, oh, I got put on this playlist and

1005
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: this is why this is cool, they're like cool, They're

1006
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: like that many people you have that many streams, They're like,

1007
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: how congratulations, it's really cool to see. And I just

1008
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: what I like about you is you know, you know

1009
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: what you want. When you walk to a song writ

1010
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: in your room, you're like, this is what I want

1011
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: to do, and people can either get with it or not,

1012
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: but you know who you are and who you are

1013
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: change a hundred times, and that's all okay too. It's

1014
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: it's super cool to see your success. Well, good luck

1015
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: and tomorrow will play your song. But if you're listening

1016
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: that was yesterday, that's right. We're messing with time right now. Um,

1017
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: you guys can follow Megan at Megan Maroney m o

1018
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: r oh anyway, right, I'm saying that right. That's how

1019
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: you say wait what man o the whole time and

1020
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: I was like your manager, I told you not saying

1021
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: not be Maroni. No, just spelling wise because people always

1022
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: want to throw a in there and that's not correct,

1023
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: so spelled moron e y. That's pretty funny too, you say, see,

1024
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: that's that's self deprecating. Even in fact, you'll say that, Okay,

1025
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: you guys, check out Megan. And other than that, we're good.

1026
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: And Megan, we'll see you after you have a couple

1027
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: of massive hits. We'll do it again, all right, all right, thanks,