1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World. The Bureau of Labor 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Statistics released a September twenty twenty two consumer Price Index 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: report on October twelfth. Over the last twelve months, the 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: all items index increased eight point two percent. Increases in shelter, food, 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: and medical care indexes were the largest of many contributors 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: to the monthly seasonally adjusted all items increase. The energy index, however, 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: increased nineteen point eight percent for the twelve months ending September, 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: a smaller increase than the twenty three point eight percent 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: increase for the period ending August. The food index increased 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: eleven point two percent over the last year. These numbers, 11 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: of course, you know in your own pocket, because when 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: you go to the gas station or you go to 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: the grocery store, you're personally seeing this. All of these 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: stats mean consumers are paying more for everything. And one 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: way we can reduce energy costs is by renewing American 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: energy independence. And remember, energy goes into everything. It's the 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: cost of goods delivered to the store, it's the cost 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: of food being raised. It's amazing how pervasive energy is 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: going through the entire economy today. I'm really pleased to 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: welcome two guests who firmly agree that the United States 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: should use its own resources to create energy independence. My 22 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: first guest is the representative for Ohio's twelfth Congressional District, 23 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: Congressman Troy Balderson, and Matt Hammond, spokesman for the Empowerment Alliance. 24 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Troy and Matt, welcome and thank you for joining me 25 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: on News World. Thank you for having us, mister speakers. 26 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: Honor to be here. Yeah, pleasure to be here. Matt, 27 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: let's start by discussing the four pillars of the Empowerment Alliance. Well, essentially, 28 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: mister speaker, it is about affordable energy for families, clean 29 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: energy for our environment, abundant energy for our future, American 30 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: energy for our security. The thing that I love about 31 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: the Empowerment Alliance is, for so long the industry has 32 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: been on their heels instead of being proactive and engaging 33 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: and trying to put the anti fossil field development crowd. 34 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: The Empowerment Alliance is set up to do that, to 35 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: punch back. Instead of the industry always kind of being 36 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: on their hills, we want to put the anti fossil 37 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: fuel crowd on their heels. That's a great thing about it. Additionally, 38 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: we have a Declaration of Energy and Dependence, which I 39 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: want to thank you and Troy for being signers. We 40 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: have approximately eleven hundred signers today of all levels of 41 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: elected officials, from folks like yourself, President George W. Bush, 42 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: Leader McCarthy, members of Senate Congress, but that also flows 43 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: down to governors. All five statewide officeholders in Ohio have 44 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: signed it, A significant number of members of the General 45 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Assembly have signed it. And on top of that, it's 46 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: not just for state federal government levels. It is for 47 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: township trustees, as for candidates who might be running for 48 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: local office, county commissioners, or candidates set are running. So 49 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: we've really got a pretty impressive list of supporters that 50 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: believe in those four pillars that the Empowerment Alliance as 51 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: set out trying. Let me ask you for a second, 52 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: because you've both been in the state legislature now you're 53 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: in Congress. Have you found the Empowerment Alliance helpful in 54 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: that sense and educating elected officials? Oh? I think it's huge. 55 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean the outreach that they do, the work that 56 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: they do is absolutely phenomenal, and match been leading that 57 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: organization and it continues to grow. It's something that I'm 58 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: advocating and pushing very hard. I will continue to do that. 59 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: I work arm in arm, hand in hand with them 60 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: when we did the House resolution. They are the ones 61 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: that kind of grabbed it with me to make it happen. 62 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: And the organization has been absolutely phenomenal. And look, that's 63 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: what they're here to do. And I've actually had them 64 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: come back to DC and speak to Members of Congress 65 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: and address them and continue to guide them and answer 66 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: any questions that they may have about the empowerment in 67 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: what it does and what it means to this country. 68 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: You know, I think what people don't realize is when 69 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: you talk to resemble a natural guests, because of new 70 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: technologies of getting it, the amount of natural guests available 71 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: in the United States is just staggering. And in particular, 72 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: the Marsella Shale, which is in the Apple h and Bason, 73 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: goes across New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, Maryland, Tennessee, Virginia, 74 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: and Kentucky. So it's an enormous formation. And near it 75 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: is the Unica Shale, which is in Ohio, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Maryland, 76 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: New York, t Virginia, and part of Canada. So for 77 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: people who think that oil and gas industries essentially out west, 78 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: there's an enormous volume on the East coast, and combined 79 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: the Marcellus and Unica shale deposits contained something like two 80 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen trillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas. 81 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: But there are bottlenecks in Appalachia, and we could, in 82 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: fact dramatically increase our production today despite the bottlenecks. The 83 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: Marcellus and Unica shales account for thirty four percent of 84 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: all US output, and Pennsylvania's marketed natural gas production, primarily 85 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: from the Marcella shale, reached a record seven point one 86 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: trillion cubic feet in twenty twenty. In the state is 87 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: the nation's second largest natural gas producer after Texas, which 88 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: is sort of ironically appropriate since the first oil wells 89 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: were actually in western Pennsylvania, not in eastern Texas. So 90 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: there's a huge increase in Ohio, which has become a 91 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: very big producer. And Troy, you see this up close, 92 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: said hey, then the area you represent, can you talk 93 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: about what the oil and gas boom has done for 94 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: southeast Ohio over the last decade. Yeah, mister speaker, It's 95 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: changed the whole dynamics of this state, predominantly of the 96 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: southeastern part of Ohio, in the eastern portion of Ohio 97 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: back into the whole Appalachia region in the basin and 98 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: some of those other states that you talked about. Coal 99 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: was such a big energy provider but also a provider 100 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: of employment. And in that downturn when cole started fading 101 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: away somewhat, i want to say it's completely gone, but 102 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: started fading away drastically in that timeframe of twenty ten 103 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 1: to twenty eleven is when the Unica shale came into play. 104 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: It was a game changer for the communities that were 105 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: supported by the coal industry, but for those communities to 106 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: have now the Unuica shale industry come in, people were hired, 107 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: communities were thriving again. Small business owners from the tire shops, 108 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: at the mechanic shops, the restaurants, the hotel business, everything 109 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: came back to life again. And something that also doesn't 110 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: get talked about too much is what these companies that 111 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: came in and the companies that were here existing, they 112 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: became part of it also with their employment. But what 113 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: they did for the schools, and there's several references of 114 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: weight rooms, athletic facilities that were being donated to these 115 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: local schools. More importantly, some of the educational pizzas iPads, 116 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: And it was just a game changer in that timeframe 117 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: when we were losing jobs in that coal industry. For 118 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: the oil and gas shale play to come in, it 119 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: could have been in a better time, and it's continuing 120 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: to grow. There has been a downlay here in the 121 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: last couple of years, but you know, as we speak today, 122 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: I know of several wells that are going to start 123 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: being drilled here in the near future. I remember back 124 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, two thousand and two, I 125 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: would talk to the American Chemical Association and they were 126 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: really worried because we were running out of natural gas 127 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: and they thought the price was going to keep going 128 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 1: up and the most chemical production was going off shore. 129 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: And nowadays, because of the breakthroughs in technology, I think 130 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: natural guess is eight times more expensive in Japan than 131 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: in the US. And that's given us both the natural 132 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: gas industry, but it's allowed us to rebuild things like 133 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: our chemical industry and others. What's the job effect of that? 134 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: Ben Troy. It's been huge. And mister speaker, you brought 135 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: up a great point, you know, from a cracker facility 136 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: that was being built across the Ohio River just outside Pittsburgh. 137 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: There was also a conversation in talks, and I think 138 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: those talks are still continuing to this day that are 139 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: going to happen here in Ohio. And it's been going 140 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: on and the conversation has been going. But I think 141 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: the more that we start releasing the energy that we 142 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: have available here in Ohio and West Virginia and Pennsylvania 143 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: in Kentucky, the more conversation that that will happen. So 144 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: the American Chemistry Council, I mean others involved with them 145 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: also a lot, and what we were doing with that 146 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: and the ethane and the propane, everything that this country 147 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: needs is right here on our backyard. And Ohio has 148 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: it figured out. We just need to get the rest 149 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: of the country to figure it out. And this administration 150 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: for that matter, can either of you explain to me. 151 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: I think one of the most fascinating examples of the 152 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: damaged politicians can do is the state line between New 153 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: York and Pennsylvania. I mean, Pennsylvania has created a huge 154 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: number of jobs, exactly the same shale formation as in 155 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: New York, and the politicians of New York have basically 156 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: killed the industry. Does either of you have an explanation 157 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: for why New York so anti energy and anti jobs, 158 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: mister speaker, that is a phenomenal question. That is a 159 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: head scratcher for us. Exactly to your point. What we 160 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: have talked about within the industry is there are farmers 161 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: in southern New York literally watching people make a lot 162 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: of money on least bonus payments royalties, and it's got 163 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: to be infuriating to them. Because people in Albany, and 164 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: you know obviously the influence that New York City has 165 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: within the state government. It's killed it. But it's not 166 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: just from a development standpoint either. Think past New York. 167 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: You can't build a pipeline through New York. So what 168 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: is do for the New England states where they getting 169 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: their gas from? How much more are they paying for 170 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: natural gas versus what people are paying here in Ohio, 171 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: West Virginia, Pennsylvania. And it gets pretty cool in the 172 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: New England states last time I checked. As people who 173 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: go out to buy heating oil. This month, the sticker 174 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: shock is going to be amazing in New England. To 175 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: go ahead, Troy, No, mister speaker. I've just got to say, 176 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: I think it's the lack of knowledge by these local 177 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: elected officials. And you know, to me, that's what we 178 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: need to be aggressive with, communicating, educating, whether members of Congress, 179 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: but these local governments. I mean, you know, here in 180 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: the state of Ohio government to wine has done a 181 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: really good job. The prior administration has done a really 182 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: good job with this industry. They understand the impact that 183 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: it is here in the state of Ohio, the state 184 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: legislature and signing the law by the governor the wine 185 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: that you know, local governments can't ban natural gas and investment. 186 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: That's a terrible word when we start saying we're going 187 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: to ban this or we're going to ban that, and 188 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: that's something that you know, I don't think should be 189 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 1: part of our local hilary, but you know it is. 190 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: And it's it's kind of funny I think about it, 191 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: because it's fun to see, you know, when you go 192 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: to southeastern Ahi and you talk to some of these 193 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: farmers and working people and you know, one farmer says 194 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: the other one, how did you get that new John 195 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: deer Combine and he said, well, I had a utica shale. 196 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: Well man, that's how I got that. So you know, 197 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: the jealousy sometimes it goes back and forth, and you 198 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: know they say, like, how do I get involved in that? 199 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: What can I do to be a part of that? 200 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: So I can reinvest back not only in my county 201 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: and my locals, but invest in in my family and 202 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: build new homes and put all those people to work 203 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: and get that new FOURD F one fifty truck. So 204 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: it's a good policy to have not to ban anything. 205 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: So to a choice point as well. I mean, Ohio 206 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: state government hasn't broken to what I call anti development crowd. 207 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: Not necessarily environmentalist, because you can be an environmentalist and 208 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: support domestic energy, but the anti development crowd in New 209 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: York was very loud. A lot of New York City 210 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: based albany, and they just cave to it. And it's 211 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: really unfortunate. I was talking with somebody who was a 212 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: gourmey chef who uses natural gas and then doesn't think 213 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: you can cook as well with electricity because you can't 214 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: control it accurately. And yet the New York City Council 215 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: is effectively banning new hookups for heat, hot water, and 216 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: kitchen so starting in twenty twenty four. Me, if you 217 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: think about all the different restaurants in New York, this 218 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: is kind of an insane policy. I don't get it. 219 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: It's so unfortunate, and to take that ability away from 220 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: these people, it's lack of education, mister speaker. I just 221 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: think people don't realize. And you know, I like to 222 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: share some of the stories because I mean, I pinched myself. 223 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm so blessed to be able to do what I do. 224 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: But you know, when Matt and I and we did 225 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: the making Natural Gas part of the Green portfolio, the 226 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: best story that I've had so far is is that 227 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, there's a Central Ohio Columbus Ohio TV station 228 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: there and we were actually in a soybean field that 229 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: was owned by you can't make this stuff up by 230 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: mister bean and it had a pump jack and tanks 231 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: that were there, and we made this major announcement that 232 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: we were doing this house resolution for natural gas. And 233 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: the best question and the best thing that I got 234 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: up after it's all done, the cameraman and the reporter 235 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: from the Central High Clumbistate I mean, he came up 236 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: to me and he said, this is it and I 237 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: told him, I said, this is the footprint that this 238 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: is all it is. And then we have these fields 239 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: of renewable these large windmills with the solar fields that 240 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: are out there, and five miles down the road from 241 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: the location we were sitting is going to be the 242 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: largest microchip investment in this country, which Intel. So that's 243 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: part of the twelfth Congressional district. And you know, I'm 244 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: having those conversations with Intel now saying, look, you have 245 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: a hundred year abundance of natural gas here, the cleanest 246 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: form of energy that we have that's available to us. 247 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: So I think those are the best things that we 248 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: can share. You know, Matt does a really good job 249 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: in his role with what he does. The Empowerment team 250 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: gets out and educates the legislators, and I think that's 251 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: the most important thing that we can do. Troy, you 252 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: actually introduced House Resolution eleven forty eight to recognize the 253 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: benefits of natural gas. What does that do? You know? 254 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: It's just acknowledging the important of natural gas, the efficiency 255 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: of natural gas, and the cleanness. I mean, we all 256 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: talk about what are clean and the renewable pieces, but 257 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, we have to look at natural gas and 258 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: nuclear is part of that clean energy. I mean it 259 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: is the cleanest form of energy. And mister Speaker, that 260 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: came about about a year ago, and I was reading 261 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal in November and I saw an 262 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: article where the EU was going to consider making nuclear 263 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: and natural gas part of the renewable green energy and 264 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: I thought, why can't we do that here? That's fantastic, 265 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: And you know, reached out, working with Matt, working with 266 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: the Alliance Group and several other folks. We got that introduced. Now, 267 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: we did take the nuclear piece out of it right now, 268 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: but we had those conversations everyone said why not. I mean, 269 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: it's the truth and it's what it is. So you know, 270 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: we're going to continue working on that resolution, moving it forward. 271 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: We have over twenty co sponsors right now, mister Speaker, 272 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: and we're doing what I said that we should do, 273 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: and that's educating legislators, members of Congress, local governments, but 274 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: also our constituents that we represent. If I can't and 275 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: Troy add to that, and I think you're getting to 276 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: a great point. It is a false choice that you 277 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: can have clean and affordable energy at the same time, 278 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, you have to pick one that's insane, because 279 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: natural gas, to your point, Troy, clean green, but also affordable. 280 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: Right now where the economy is for renewables, they're not 281 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: economical right now, they're not ready to take over a 282 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: big portion of the grid. They produce about three to 283 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: five percent of the electricity in the state of Ohio. 284 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: We can't live off that well, you know, I think 285 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: we're about to see a very painful case study in 286 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: Europe that when you cut out all of the things 287 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: at work and are affordable, and you rely on technological fantasies, 288 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: they're going to have a very tough winter. There's an 289 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: estimate that is meant says forty percent of the houses 290 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: in Great Britain may end up with black mold because 291 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: the climate is so wet that if you don't keep 292 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: it heated, you have a natural infestation. And then black 293 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: mold forces you automoly to tear the house apart because 294 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: it gets into your lungs and it's really dangerous. I 295 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: think in Europe that reality is being to punish them 296 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: so much that they're actually shifting in terms of some 297 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: of their attitudes from where they had been, but shouldn't 298 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: we be learning from that? If we had energy independence today, 299 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: we could easily have replaced Russian natural gas. We'd be 300 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: making more money, we'd have more jobs, and our allies 301 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: would be dramatically stronger and safer. I mean, what am 302 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: I missing in that formula? Well, speaker, I think you're right. 303 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: Germany to me is the poster child. They shut down 304 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: all their coal firepower plants. They immediately tried to flip 305 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: the switch again, trying to follow the progressiveness of the 306 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: European Union, and it is going to do and has 307 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: done significant harm to the people that the government claims 308 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: to represent. If we want to go down this path 309 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: to where the anti fossil fuel crowd wants to go, 310 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: have those people take a trip over to Germany this 311 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: winter and see what it's going to be like, because 312 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: it's going to be miserable. You're right, they're in a 313 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: bat spot. They're going to be more reliable on Russian gas. 314 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: Now we can ramp up ellen G exports, but that's 315 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: going to take time and increase in oil and gas development. 316 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: And hasn't the Biden administration actually dramatically weakened are incentives 317 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: for development and our ability. I mean, if we had 318 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: been continuing at the rate we were in twenty twenty, 319 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: we'd have vastly more natural gas, substantially lower prices. Wouldn't 320 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: mean what this administration has done, even starting with the 321 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: first day on the moratorium on federal lands and canceling 322 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: the Keystone pipeline, mister speaker, that immediately sets in uncertainty 323 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: to an industry that needs certainty. So there have been 324 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: news articles out there about key executives from large oil 325 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: and gas companies trying to work with the Biden administration 326 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: to figure out a plan on Okay, if we drill 327 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: these wells and we build these production lines and these 328 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: midstream gathering lines, are you going to allow large scale 329 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: transmission lines to move this gas across the country to 330 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: be built? And there is obviously a he said, she said, 331 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: part of this conversation where the Biden administration just says, well, 332 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, they don't want to do it. We have 333 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: nine thousand or some permits on federal lands and nobody's 334 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: doing anything with them. Well, why would you drill well 335 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: if you don't know that that well that gas has 336 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: a place to go to different markets. It's a bad 337 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: business decision, and that's why you're seeing the lab right now. Troy. 338 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: You mentioned that the huge investment in your district in 339 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: a new chip manufacturing facility. Just for talking about what 340 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: I mean, when somebody comes along and says I want 341 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: to put billions of dollars in, they've got to have 342 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: some kind of stability because that's got to be the ten, fifteen, 343 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: twenty year payoff. That's not a next weekend. We have 344 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: made Ohio really business friendly and it has been so 345 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: much fun to be part of that. And you know 346 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: it's in the state legislature prior to this, I mean 347 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: as a chair of the Energy and Natural Resources Committee 348 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: in the Senate. But to watch this happen and we 349 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: have a Honda reinvestment in this state. So again, I 350 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: think that goes back to what we have done here 351 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: in the past. The past administration that was here prior 352 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: to this to Wine Houston administration has been fantastic. The 353 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: state legislators here are article of going to continue to 354 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: make Ohio business friendly. We're on the map, but the 355 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: investments here are big. And you know, one of the 356 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: reasons that I feel like Ohigh as part of that 357 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: is is because our energy resources. I mean, we have 358 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: a hundred years of abundant clean energy and we've got 359 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: to continue talking about that and making sure that these 360 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: investments and these companies that are making these investments understand 361 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: that there should be some very public recognition and education 362 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: on what natural gas and oil companies are doing. From 363 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: an ESG standpoint, environmental social governance standpoint, it has been 364 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: a major movement. It is not going anywhere in Every 365 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: single large shale producer that is out there is finding 366 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: ways to reduce their carbon footprint, and the industry is 367 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: stepped up time and time again. I think it's the 368 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: most innovative, flexible, quick to move industry in the world, 369 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: and they are continuing to do better and that's just 370 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: going to keep going. That comes with the education piece 371 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: that Choy's been talking about. Whether it's local communities, whether 372 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: it's a state legislature in Ohio or whatever state, there's 373 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: got to be a recognition for that because they are 374 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: driving every day to reduce their carbon footprint and they 375 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: want to. Natural gas has so much less of a 376 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: carbon footprint than coal that shifting to natural gas from 377 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: coal has actually cut fifty percent more emissions than wind 378 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: and solar power combined and as responsible for sixty one 379 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: of the US electricity generation CO two reductions. I mean, 380 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: why is it so hard to get the more fanatic 381 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: greens to understand that, in fact, natural gas fits perfectly 382 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: in their model as a transition which is both affordable, 383 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: available on a worldwide basis, and it actually works, whereas 384 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: the technologies they're trying to invent right now may well 385 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: be twenty to fifty years away from being affordable. You 386 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: can get it to work, it's just you can't afford it. 387 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: I go back ten to fifteen years, maybe groups like 388 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: the Sierra Club were promoting natural gas because they thought 389 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 1: it was a bridge fuel from coal that would be 390 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: cleaner than coal, but certainly, mister Speaker, not clean enough 391 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: by their standards. But they thought it was going to 392 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: give them time to ramp up renewable projects. They turned 393 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: on a dime when they found out we have approximately 394 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: one hundred years supply of natural gas, and they knew 395 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: that is a very very long bridge for them. Assuming 396 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 1: they're competing on a level playing field, let the market decide, 397 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: not giving subsidies to one industry sector of the industry 398 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: over the other. And when they figured that out. They 399 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: just flipped their position overnight. So the problem was it 400 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: was actually going to work, Troy. Don't you find when 401 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: you talk to some of your colleagues in the Congress 402 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: that you just can't get past whatever their logic train is, 403 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: and then the facts just don't seem to penetrate. Mister speaker. 404 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: You know everyone sometimes with fashouldn't say everyone, but a 405 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: lot of people say, how do you do this? I 406 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean when I was out with stuff. 407 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: You know, they had guys yesterday and they were harvesting 408 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: their corn, and you know, I don't know how you 409 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: do it. Try I'm just I'm glad you're over there 410 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: doing it. It's challenging, but look, we can't give up, 411 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: mister speaker. And you know that. I mean, you know 412 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: that better than you know Matt and I. And what 413 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: you've done and what you've done for this country. We 414 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: got to keep on digging and pushing what we know 415 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: are factual. A lot of people are gonna start seeing 416 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: it in their pocketbooks. I think a lot of people 417 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: that haven't accepted, you know what, we're trying to educate 418 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: them with and communicate and talk with them about we 419 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: talked a little bit at the very beginning about you know, 420 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: diesel fuel being down to a twenty four to twenty 421 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: five days supply when they can't get that bush light 422 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: as I told you the beer distributor, they reached out 423 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: to me yesterday morning, and they can't get that bush 424 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: light when they start seeing their products that are at 425 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: the grocery store right now, which are already at the 426 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: highest they've ever been. You know, these transportation costs are 427 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: going to be passed on also the consumer. And I 428 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: think that will help us a little bit, mister speaker. 429 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that that gets us to where we 430 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: want to be, and it's kind of fall on us 431 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: as the Republic ends. And Leader McCarthy is doing a 432 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: great job with this with his commitment to America, and 433 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: mister speaker, were grateful for all the help that you've done. 434 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: I mean you've talked to us down at a retreat 435 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: at the very beginning of the year. I think that's 436 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: what's going to make the difference and have people understand 437 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: the impact that energy is going to have on their lives. 438 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize. For example, you know, natural 439 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: guests goes into fertilizer. The cost of diesel fuel goes 440 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: directly into everything from running your tractor to the truck 441 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: that picks up the dairy product or the crop, to 442 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: the truck that takes it to the grocery store. The 443 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: cost of petroleum products goes into packaging. There's so many 444 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: different layers where natural gas and oil multiply in the 445 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: system in a way you never quite think about. And 446 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: somebody it was estimating that the shortage of diesel is 447 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: going to add twenty percent to the cost of groceries 448 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: because virtually all groceries are delivered by trucks that use diesel. 449 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: The sort of thing ripples through the whole economy and 450 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: bites everybody's pocketbook at the same time. In Ohio and 451 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania are great examples. If you really develop energy independence, 452 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: you create thousands and thousands of high paying jobs. And 453 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: if you don't, then you're asking Venezuela or Canada or 454 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: somebody else to create thousands and thousands of high paying 455 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: jobs because the products still going to be used. We 456 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: are a major center of reducing the carbon footprint. The 457 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: United States has been an extraordinary leader in doing that, 458 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: and a large part of that spend because of natural gas, 459 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: I mean over thirty percent. And when you say that 460 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: stat that we've done that, the rest of the other 461 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: countries around the world combined have not done what the 462 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: United States has done. And again we just got to 463 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: keep pounding pound and pound and talking about it. I 464 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: want to retract us a little bit and understanding. It 465 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: goes back to making sure that you know our elected 466 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: officials something that we did here in Ohio. And Matt 467 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: and I will give a shout out to our good 468 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: friend Todd Snicheler. Todd was chairman of the PUCO back 469 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: when the Utica schell boom. Craig Butler was the director 470 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: of the High EPA. Great energy minds as they are, 471 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: and they moved on. But we would go to Pennsylvania 472 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: to see what they were doing so we could come 473 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: back to Ohio and even make it better. We would 474 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: learn from what they went through. And I think that, 475 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, we should continue working with other states as 476 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: we do that. And you know, Matt said the same thing. 477 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the producers want to become efficient and for 478 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: this administration to react the way that they did when 479 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: the Saladies made the decision that they made two weeks 480 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: ago is pathetic and for the administration to want to 481 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: go back over to not friends of ours at all, 482 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: they can't stand us, and to be upset with them 483 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: because they didn't help us, when right here in our 484 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: backyard we have everything that we need here. As you said, 485 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: mister speaker, in the very beginning in twenty twenty, we 486 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: were the leaders in the world with natural gas. The 487 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: impact that we're going to see from Germany, I think 488 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: that goes back to hopefully the media covers that correctly 489 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: the impact of the cost of energy in Europe and 490 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: in Germany, and people will also have an eye opening 491 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: experience with that too, saying oh wow, we don't want 492 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: to have that happen here in the United States. But 493 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: I want to thank both of you for joining me 494 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: today and for helping me and our listeners understand what 495 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: we need to renew American energy independence and how using 496 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: our own natural gas resources within the United States can 497 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: help us get there. I'm also going to post on 498 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: our show page a link to the Empowerment Alliance so 499 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: that people can be involved, and we're going to post 500 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: a link Troy to your resolution so people can also 501 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: encourage their member of Congress to co sponsored and to 502 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: join you, and I assume you're going to be reintroducing 503 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: it in the next Congress. I will be, mister Speaker, Yes, 504 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: thank you, and we'll keep you posted on that too. 505 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: That'll be great. I have a hunch in the next 506 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: Congress you're gonna have a much friendlier leadership towards natural 507 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: gas and towards American energy independence than we've headed in 508 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: the current Congress. Exactly, mister Speaker, And again, thank you 509 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: for all your help with that. Thank you both for 510 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: joining us. Thank you, Thank you to my guest Congressman 511 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: Troy Balderson and Matt Hammond. You can learn more about 512 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: renewing American Energy Independence on our show page at newtsworld 513 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: dot com. 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