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Speaker 1: with he Sean, how's it going, Hey, fellas, how are

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Speaker 1: you well? It's going on today? Nothing happening, Slow Newsday,

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Speaker 1: Sean All right, So I wanted to get your perspective

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Speaker 1: doing what you do, and you also host our pre

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Speaker 1: and post game shows on Texans Radio game Day stuff,

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Speaker 1: and we really appreciate that. But I'll ask you the

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Speaker 1: same question should I ask McLane your level of surprise

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Speaker 1: and or shock that this happens now? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess after a few more losses, it's inevitable for any coach,

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Speaker 1: But right now, at oen four, at this moment in time, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm stunned that it's happening right now. I'm not stunned

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Speaker 1: that it's happening, but I'm stunned that it's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, Clint and I did the postgame show yesterday

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Speaker 1: after the game, and I was one of those deals

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Speaker 1: where you can't remember. It's one of those conversations you

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Speaker 1: had on the air or off the air. You guys

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Speaker 1: probably thought how that goes? And we were chatting about, man,

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Speaker 1: what if it goes to ohen five next week? Then

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Speaker 1: what has to happen? And that's where it really starts

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Speaker 1: to get real. You know, you're losing to the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: at home, that kind of thing. So I thought that

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be anything that if it did come down,

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Speaker 1: it would be at least after that, just to see

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Speaker 1: if it's one of those things where you can fish

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Speaker 1: this thing out of the fire. So I'm I'm stunned

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Speaker 1: that it's happening today. I mean, I was in the middle,

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Speaker 1: like everybody of you know, watching the astros and listening

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Speaker 1: to sports Radio six ten in the afternoon, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm blog posts and getting planned

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Speaker 1: for emergency shows tonight with Landry Locker on the station.

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Speaker 1: So just a very very strange day. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I saw, I'm really surprised. I think, big picture,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a different time now for the Texans.

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Speaker 1: This is a general manager and now a head coach

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Speaker 1: slash general manager that in sixteen months have been let go.

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Speaker 1: So it's just, you know, it's it's it's not your

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Speaker 1: older brothers, Texans. And I think, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: that can be a good thing. You know that there's

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Speaker 1: that degree of urgency with what's going on this season. Seanny,

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Speaker 1: when you have an opportunity to sleep on this one

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Speaker 1: get on the air at six o'clock and it's time

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Speaker 1: for the Painted Pendergas show. What do you think you'll

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Speaker 1: say to the fans, to the listeners that will be

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Speaker 1: up at that time wanting to know what your thoughts

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Speaker 1: are if you have you sort of thought that through.

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Speaker 1: Have you thought about what the two of you might say.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys gonna kind of just not talk to

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Speaker 1: each other and just get the you know, raw from

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Speaker 1: one another in that first segment as you start the show.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts as you head into your show

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Speaker 1: hear what you have to say. I've got a ton

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Speaker 1: of thoughts on it, Johnny, you know, as you can

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Speaker 1: probably imagine, and I think I think, to me the

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Speaker 1: two biggest things I think just as pertains to the

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Speaker 1: fan base. I think one of the things that feels

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Speaker 1: good to me is that now there's there's no dichotomy,

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Speaker 1: going on this year. I mean, you guys know, we

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Speaker 1: the postgame, Joe, and especially when you start a season

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Speaker 1: the way this one has, everybody's angry and everybody is

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Speaker 1: rooting for either the Texans to win because they're Texan fans,

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Speaker 1: or they're rooting for the Texans to lose because they

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Speaker 1: think it's going to create some trigger event for the

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Speaker 1: big picture. And that's not fun. You know, you want

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Speaker 1: the fan base to I'll be pulling in the same direction.

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Speaker 1: You want to be rooting for the team to win.

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Speaker 1: That's what sports are about. And I think just from

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Speaker 1: that perspective, I feel almost a sense of relief that

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Speaker 1: the team to lose because I want to change at

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Speaker 1: the top. You know, I'm rooting for the team to

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Speaker 1: win because I'm a Texan fan. Everybody's pulling in the

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Speaker 1: same direction, and I think that's to me, just as

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Speaker 1: a host and as a fan, that's a big relief.

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Speaker 1: That's number one. And I think number two is you know, ultimately,

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Speaker 1: was it the Owen four start that did Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: the offense has been off to a really slow start.

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Speaker 1: There were tons of changes that we all know what

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Speaker 1: think it's a really complex thing to break down, like

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Speaker 1: what caused all this? You know, this is going to

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Speaker 1: be This is not your garden variety firing of a

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Speaker 1: really a lot to sift through with this as a

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Speaker 1: sports radio topic. It's an incredibly interesting topic, you know,

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Speaker 1: from the just the human side. Just watching Bill O'Brien's

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Speaker 1: press conference earlier today, you know, as much as we

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Speaker 1: all want the team to win, you watch that and

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Speaker 1: you you know, you feel for anybody who goes through

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Speaker 1: getting let go, But there's you know, there's certainly a

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Speaker 1: lot to go through. So yeah, I've thought a lot

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Speaker 1: about what we're going to talk about tomorrow, and there's

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Speaker 1: no shortage of no shortage of topics. You know. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a good question about you know, all the

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Speaker 1: this all the time that you know, the teams that

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Speaker 1: that might have something to do with it. That's something

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Speaker 1: they clearly didn't know when they made some of these moves.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think the moves as controversial as

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they if they were winning, you know

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Speaker 1: who cares, right, I mean, that you're winning, Winning heals

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Speaker 1: so many things. And and to lose the way they

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Speaker 1: I remember that deal got made that day. I remember

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Speaker 1: the end of the show where it's like, well, if

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Speaker 1: but ah, this is a good sports radio topic. Been

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Speaker 1: two hours later, he's traded to the Cardinals for what

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Speaker 1: he got traded for. So so that it's it's weird

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Speaker 1: to think like if if like a week later, it

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, would he have pulled the trigger knowing that,

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Speaker 1: hey man, the whole offseason might get canceled here and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to incorporate all these new parts. It's

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Speaker 1: really weird to think, Like it's a you know, the

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Speaker 1: And then number two the like honestly, like, if David

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Speaker 1: zone and they convert a two point conversion, is Bill

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Speaker 1: Like that's yeah, it's just it's it's crazy too. It's

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Speaker 1: it's crazy to think of that, Like if they win

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Speaker 1: So if David Johnson holds on it, I'm not putting

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Speaker 1: this at the feet of David Johnsons. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying like it's one of those things like it's sports

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating. Well, it's interesting you said at Shawnny because

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Speaker 1: Moore celebrates by doing a dog urinating on a field

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Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty, moves the kick back, he misses the

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Speaker 1: field and misses the extra point. Ole Miss loses. They

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Speaker 1: fire Matt Luke. That lets Mississippi State go to a

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Speaker 1: bowl where Mississippi State gets house. That means Joe moorehead

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Speaker 1: gets fired. So now that changes Mississippi State and All

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Speaker 1: Miss just one thing. And what I what I kept

646
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Speaker 1: coming back to is if one thing like that was

647
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Speaker 1: going to change things, then it was a tenuous position

648
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Speaker 1: all the way across, meaning a win would have been

649
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Speaker 1: fantastic yesterday and we could all celebrate it. Man, I

650
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Speaker 1: was a good win that came from behind. Okay, who

651
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Speaker 1: got off the schneide. And then, as Mark and I

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Speaker 1: have been talking, maybe we were harkening back to twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Now maybe the run starts. It's Jacksonville on Sunday. Now

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Speaker 1: they got a little bit of confidence. Now, they got

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Speaker 1: a little pep in their step. But if that one

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Speaker 1: thing is the kind of determining factor whether you want

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Speaker 1: to lose that game, then there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: things leading up to that that weren't pointing in that

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Speaker 1: particular direction in the first place. If if you understand

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Speaker 1: what I mean, but you're right, what are we doing

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Speaker 1: right now? If if David does catch it, or if

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Speaker 1: Will catches that ball and you're going for two there

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Speaker 1: at the end? I don't know, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna you know, as the days go by,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there will be some stuff that comes out,

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Speaker 1: you know, media members know, you know, talk to players,

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Speaker 1: players talk about different things, whatever, and we'll find out

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Speaker 1: probably a little bit more behind the scenes stuff went on.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. But now we go into a different situation, Shanny,

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Speaker 1: So that leads to this question, maybe not a name,

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Speaker 1: an exact name, but the type of coach that you

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Speaker 1: want to come in here. I don't know about the GM,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happens with all that, but we

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Speaker 1: know that they're gonna definitely need a head football coach.

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Speaker 1: What type of coach would you think would be the

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Speaker 1: right fit for the players on the squad, for Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson at quarterback, and for this organization moving forward. Yeah, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: I thought about that a lot. I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: got to be something stylistically that's really friendly for Deshaun, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's got to be something,

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Speaker 1: you know, as as great as Deshaun is in all

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Speaker 1: the moments that he's had as a quarterback, this is

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Speaker 1: still statistically an offense that struggled to be in the

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Speaker 1: top half of the league. That can't be when you

685
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Speaker 1: have Deshaun Watson is your quarterback. So I'm most intrigued

686
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Speaker 1: to see what tree this next head coach comes off of.

687
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to be an offensive head coach

688
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Speaker 1: because I think that's the direction the league is going in,

689
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Speaker 1: and I think that's going to ford some continuity as

690
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Speaker 1: opposed to having a defensive head coach that might have

691
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Speaker 1: to be cycling through different offensive coordinators and philosophies. You

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Speaker 1: got a franchise quarterback. I've said this since Deshaun had

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Speaker 1: his bang up rookie year. Every decision that needs to

694
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Speaker 1: be made in the building needs to be made with

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Speaker 1: the question being asked, is this in the best interest

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Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson? And I think that's what the question

697
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Speaker 1: needs to be asked. That's the answer to that question,

698
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Speaker 1: is is the one that's going to lead us to

699
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Speaker 1: whoever the next head coach is. So, whether it's somebody

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Speaker 1: off the Andy Reid Tree, you know, Eric the enemy's

701
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: name is going to be at the forefront of a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, especially as they continue to score thirty

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Speaker 1: five or forty points a game this season. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's all of a sudden, That's how Texan fans. That's

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Speaker 1: the prism. Two prisms are looking at this season. Through one,

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00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: we can all root for them again, you know, and two, uh,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be looking at all these other teams

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00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: to go shopping for a head coach. So, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid Tree or whether it's you know, maybe the

710
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiaks scheme or the Kyle you know, Kyle Shanahan

711
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: sort of a coup that's a branch of the Kubiaks key.

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Speaker 1: You know me, I don't know that the air raid

713
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Speaker 1: is what you do with DeShawn, but there's going to

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Speaker 1: be people that want that. That's what I'll be most

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00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: intrigued to see. Johnny is opposed to a specific name

716
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: just what it needs to be an offensive coach. And

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00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: I think the scheme needs to be taken into account

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Speaker 1: because DeShawn needs to look a lot more comfortable than

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Speaker 1: he's looked these last four games. Absolutely, and b enemy

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Speaker 1: is a hot name, but we don't know what kind

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Speaker 1: of leader he is. That's the problem with an assistant. Look,

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Speaker 1: once upon a time, Adam Gays was a super hot

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Speaker 1: head coaching candidate name right, No, I'm serious, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys know this is This is the issue with

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Speaker 1: an assistant. And the one thing I liked about hiring

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Speaker 1: O'Brien was at least he had a track record as

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Speaker 1: a head coach at a high level college program under

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Speaker 1: differ gold circumstances, where he carved out a couple of

729
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Speaker 1: winning seasons in Nitney Lyonville when they were on the

730
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Speaker 1: ropes in so many ways. So I did like that

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Speaker 1: about him coming in here, and he obviously had success here,

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Speaker 1: not the kind that you want ultimately with the ultimate

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Speaker 1: championship goal. Sean answer this for me, what will you

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Speaker 1: take away what will be years down the road the

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00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: prevailing memory or thought about the O'Brien era, And I

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Speaker 1: asked us of McLean, I said, first answer what is

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Speaker 1: your primary memory or your prevailing memory of the Kubiak era,

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Speaker 1: and then give me the O'Brien one. So do you

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Speaker 1: want me to give you Kubiak and then O'Brien or first? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think to me, Kubiak is is just the length

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Speaker 1: of his time. You know that there were I think

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Speaker 1: a couple of times where the Kubiak era could have

743
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: ended and it didn't, and that the patients actually paid

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00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: off in terms of a couple of divis and championships

745
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Speaker 1: with some really good thing. I didn't get to me,

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Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak is. If Matt Shob's foot doesn't break, then

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00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: maybe we're building a statue for Gary Kubiak in two

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Speaker 1: thousand eleven. I feel that strongly that that team in

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Speaker 1: two eleven could have won the Super Bowl that year.

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Speaker 1: That's Gary Kubiak. As far as O'Brien goes, I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's the four division championships in five years.

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Speaker 1: And I say that as a positive and a negative,

753
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: and that it's really hard to do. You know, let's

754
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Speaker 1: take a step back from all the anger of the

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00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: O and four start and all the victory, all that

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00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien has been kind of the target of, you know,

757
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of it deserved over the

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00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: last year and a half. It's really hard to do.

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Speaker 1: So I think I think it's going to be if

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Speaker 1: you just ask me to give a sentence about Bill O'Brien,

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00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: it's four division titles in five years, the good and

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00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: the bad. The good being that it's really hard to do.

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Speaker 1: The bad being that I felt like at times that

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Speaker 1: got kind of held up to us says, hey, look

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Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're winning four division titles in five years,

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Speaker 1: to the extent that I think fans got a little

767
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: frustrated that not only could could he never get over

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00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: that hump as the head coach, but that when they

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Speaker 1: did get knocked out of the playoffs, it was usually

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Speaker 1: in a fairly decisive fashion. You know, it was never

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00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: a shootout or a close game to get to the

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Speaker 1: AFC title game or to get further in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It was always a game where the team that you

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Speaker 1: lost to was decidedly better on that day than you were.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's what it'll be with O'Brien. Four

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Speaker 1: division titles in five years, the good and the bat,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I don't think there's any ugly with it.

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00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: I just think there's good and there's bad. And I

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Speaker 1: think ultimately he'll I think ultimately he did enough to

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Speaker 1: where he's gonna work again somewhere someday, whether it's college

781
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: or the pros. And and I'll be really really interested

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00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: to see what he learned from this experience, because there

783
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: was there's there's a there's a ton to unpack. Man,

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Speaker 1: I don't think go to shock anybody. If he's a

785
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: head coach somewhere else, and if it's the right situation,

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Speaker 1: they get it to the postseason, they just get hot

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Speaker 1: when a couple of games, get to the big game

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Speaker 1: and win it, just like Kubiak did. Because when Kubiak wanted,

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Speaker 1: it just kind of all worked out. You know. Peyton

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00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: Manning came back he didn't have to play that well.

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Speaker 1: They we're running the ball pretty well. They played out

792
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Speaker 1: standing defense, and bang bang bang they win a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl three wins and you get the trophy. And that

794
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: could have happened here, but it didn't. So maybe it

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Speaker 1: can happen to him in the future. But I hope

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Speaker 1: it happens here most of all. Thank you, Yeah, yeah, undoubtedly, John,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being with us and sharing some thoughts.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate you guys having me on.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. And are you guys coming on tonight or what? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Landry's coming on. Landry's gonna host a round table from

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Speaker 1: seven to nine and I'll be on with him for

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Speaker 1: the first half hour. So this is good. This is

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Speaker 1: what I'm going to take a way, Johnny, that they

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Speaker 1: I know it sounds simple, but that's the thing, man.

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Speaker 1: a good job. In this league. To do a great job,

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Speaker 1: You got to get there. But we had a lot

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Speaker 1: the divisional round. But you know, all those things happen

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Speaker 1: the head coach situation? Moving forward? I know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna talk about Eric Enemy's He's the hot ticket.

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Speaker 1: You know, the hot ticket was in twenty fourteen, Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was number one free agent coach on

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Speaker 1: But that's David Shaw from Stanford, who a lot of

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Speaker 1: I mean his phone's gonna ring up the hook yes,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna get every offer possible because you know,

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Speaker 1: the man's a proven leader as a head coach, and

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Speaker 1: you just get the feeling he knows this league. I've

945
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Speaker 1: seen him do draft coverage. It's ridiculous. What he knows,

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Speaker 1: So that would be great, But don't expect that to

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Speaker 1: happen because the forty nine Ers job was open, the

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Speaker 1: all that. I have a head coaching job before I

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Speaker 1: job with the Cardinals. It's far from the he fired

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Speaker 1: the head coach. You know. Yeah, as it pertains to

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Speaker 1: you know that whole that whole kind of situation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And I don't. I don't dispute that. And you look

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways you can go. You

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt. But I know this when it comes

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Speaker 1: without question. The progress of him as the signal call.

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Speaker 1: feeling it was not gonna be shop. So everybody was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: You know, we know who the quarterback is. Now. It's

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Speaker 1: a matter of who is gonna and there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that want this. Who's gonna be

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Speaker 1: So that to me is the one thing you know

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Speaker 1: That he's going to be the person that leads us there,

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Speaker 1: and how they're gonna do it, and how he's gonna

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Speaker 1: that is unlike anything we've seen here in Houston. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: that ends up being what happens. But David Shaw, when

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Speaker 1: plenty of time. Let's talk about all this stuff. Romeo

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