1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:13,079 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace straight out to Katie r 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: As Joe Dome as Joe, Mommy's found dad is by 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: suicide and explain to me about the note she leaves behind. 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Where did they find out? What did it say? The 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: note was found on the next of the bed. Nancy. 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Apparently the note said that the child was safe, her 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: little boy was safe with some friends of her. She 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: didn't name who the friends wore, though. This is a 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: very important evidence, in fact, the only clue as to 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: where little Timothy could be. We know that Timothy's mother 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: took him on a joy ride, spending all across the 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: state of Illinois into Wisconsin. I mean he could literally 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: be anywhere in these two states, and also in a 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: nearby state of Iowa, where his mother is from. His mother, 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: of course, was found dead in a hotel room, her 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: wrists cut. Nancy. Police believe it may have been suicide. 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: My friend Joe comes joining me from Katie r H Radio. 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: That little boy Timothy Pittson. And in the last days, 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: now seven years after I report he's missing, a man emerges, 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: a teen saying he's Timothy Pittson. Is it true? I'm 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is crime Stories. Thank you for being 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: with us. First to my long time colleague and friend, 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Mark Class. You know Mark Class, founder of Class Kids Foundation. 24 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: I was just typing your name last night, right before 25 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I went to bed, writing a section on safety for 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: children and what parents can do to protect their children, 27 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: not realizing that today I would be talking to you 28 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: in the flesh. Mark. Do you remember when Timothy Pittson 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: went missing? Well, I do remember, Dancy, and it was 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: an absolutely heartbreaking story. It was a story that have 31 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: led one to believe that perhaps the little boy wasn't 32 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: alive anymore, which made what happened just recently even bigger 33 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: in one's time than it would have been because it 34 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: falls in the steps of so many other children that 35 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: have been found alive one way or another in the 36 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: past year. So it raised great hope, not only in 37 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: our hearts, obviously, but in the hearts of his family 38 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: that was, you know, so desperate to know what had 39 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: happened to the little boy. Absolutely, Mark, And you're talking 40 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: about cases like j. C. Dugger who was gone over 41 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: ten years, kidnapped on her way to the bus stop. 42 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: Ben only one example. I mean, there's so many children again, 43 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: of course, Elizabeth Smart is the quintessential case where a 44 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: child goes missing and then years later you find the child. 45 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: And the reason Mark is saying, I think he is 46 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: let me speak from just this one time that it 47 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: looked like Timothy maybe dead was because the mom committed 48 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: suicide in a motel, leaving a note that Timothy, her 49 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: little boy, was with friends. Could never find the friends. 50 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: What friends where? Why doesn't she wants to find the friends? 51 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Why does she kill herself? And to doctor Bethany Marshall, 52 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: California's psycho analyst, what scared me the most at the 53 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: time Timothy went missing. For those of you who just 54 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: joining us, a man appears claiming to be Timothy Pitts 55 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: and a little boy I first reported on years ago 56 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: when he went missing. The joy ride, the ride, the 57 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: meandering ride. Mommy takes the boy on before she commits suicide. 58 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: That aspect of this scenario. You know, I'm just a 59 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: trial lawyer, Bethany, you're the shrink that ride for days. 60 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: It speaks to me, but I don't know the significance 61 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: or what it means. Well. I wondered about the joy 62 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: ride if she was trying to get her nerve up 63 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: to do something. You know, she left her home when 64 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: out of contact with her own husband, turned off her 65 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: cell phone, like she did not want to be found. 66 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: She did not take her antidepressant medication with her, so 67 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: she didn't plan ahead. She disrupted her child, Timothy's activities, 68 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, she just pulled him out of everything that 69 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: was important to him. And I felt at the time 70 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: that the joy ride was somebody who was contemplating harming 71 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: herself and her child, but did not have the nerve 72 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: to do it. Yet. She was thinking, she was contemplating, 73 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: she was working up the courage. You know, people, sometimes 74 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: when people commit suicide, it's impulsive, and sometimes it's very 75 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: well thought out and planned. And this had a very 76 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: planned quality to it. It made me think, and again, 77 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: I'm just a trial lawyer, not a shrink like you. 78 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: They long dry for. You're away from reality, you're away 79 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: from work, you're away from school, you're away from soccer 80 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: practice and cooking supper every night, and all the demands 81 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: that are on moms and dads and and you're almost 82 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: like going to a vacation. And she took her child, 83 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: her little boy, Timothy, on this long ride for days 84 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: and days and days just him and Mommy, and then 85 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: she commits suicide and he disappears. That's go ahead. Well, 86 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: that reminds me of the preacher's wife. Remember that case 87 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: you covered years ago where she took her two little 88 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: girls on a vacation. She killed her husband, and then 89 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: she went on this long, long vacation. It's like and 90 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: they found her somewhere on the East Coast. It's like 91 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: she unplugged exactly reality and unplugged from her life exactly. 92 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: In the last hours, a man appears claiming a young 93 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: man claiming to be Timothy Pittson. Take a listen to 94 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Timothy's grandma. I want to go to Linda Pittson. This 95 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: is little Timmy's grandmother. Missus Pittson. Thank you for being 96 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: with us. We are all hoping and praying that Jimmy 97 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: has found alive tonight. Why are authority saying that Timmy 98 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: was never in that motel room. How do they know 99 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: that they saw that surveillance that he wasn't as Sullivan 100 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: Grocery Store at eight o'clock with him with her, and 101 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: so they feel that he wasn't with her in the 102 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: motel room either. You are hearing me speak on h 103 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Lynn speaking to Timmy's grandma Linda Pittson. Now, take a 104 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: listen to what my friend Joe gomes At Katie r. 105 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: H says. It seems to me that if the little 106 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: boy were with friends, those so called friends would have 107 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: come forward by now. Well, certainly, Nancy, this case has 108 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: gotten a lot of attention. I mean, look, police have 109 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: been going around scouring the area, alerting everybody as to 110 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: what happened. I mean, certainly, if you had received at 111 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: a little precious six year old boy and you couldn't 112 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: find his mother after a couple of days, when you 113 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: have alerted authorities, I mean, it doesn't really make any sense, Nancy. Well, 114 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Joe Gummez was right. But how did it all start? 115 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: Because that's the way we're going to figure out how 116 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: it has all ended. In the last days, a young 117 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: man emerging out of nowhere who really looks like Timothy 118 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: Pittson and says he's Timothy Pittson. Take a listen to this. 119 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: How did it start? Little Timothy Pittson was always the 120 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: apple of his father's eye. So tim was a gregarious, 121 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: extrovert type of person. Oh yeah, get along with everybody 122 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: running down the street. It's always happy, always fun to 123 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: be around, always looking for the next adventure. And now, 124 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: when James Pittson closes his eyes, he can still see 125 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: his son and Timothy in the car as he drives 126 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: into kindergarten early on a spring morning in Aurora, Illinois. 127 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: I brought Timothy off the school. He hopped out the backseat, 128 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: ran off the school, and that's the last he's seen 129 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: of Timothy to this day. I said, love you, buddy, 130 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: and he says, love you two, dad, and I'll see 131 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: you later. I'm like, okay. Less than an hour later, 132 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: a surveillance camera captures Timothy's mother, Amy Pittson, as she 133 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: signs him out of school, claiming a family emergency. It 134 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: is the beginning of a tragic journey that's end is 135 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: still unknown, and as James returns to pick up Timothy 136 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: after school, he has no idea how bad it is 137 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: going to get. I picked him up from kindergarten and 138 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: take him the big care so I love by the 139 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: school and his teacher goes Timothy left like eight thirty. 140 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean he left at day thirty. 141 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I want to see the log book 142 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: and who checked my son out of school because I'm like, 143 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: let's hear the worst words you can hear. I can 144 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: only imagine when you leave your child at school and 145 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: you think everything is fine. I want to go to 146 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: my longtime colleague, tireless advocate, world renowned Mark Class, founder 147 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: of Class Kids Foundation. Mark was called to He was 148 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: led to his calling by his daughter Polly, who disappeared 149 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: and lost her life many years ago. Totally completely out 150 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: of left field. Mark, You're the one that first alerted 151 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: me to the dangers of school bus, school route and 152 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: school pickup problems. How the abductions take place? What went wrong? 153 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: Way back? When you know the banner is a guy 154 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: has just shown up that looks like Timothy Pittson, that 155 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: says he's Timothy Pittson. But how did the mom get 156 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: him out? Was she allowed to get him out? Was 157 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: she the signatory parent? She must have been on a 158 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: list that allowed her to remove the child from school, 159 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: or the secretary or whoever signs him out of school 160 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: assumed that she was on that list. But I can 161 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: certainly see how a mother can show up to take 162 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: a child out of school because of a family emergency 163 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: and they say, oh, absolutely good. Luck, and we hope 164 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: that everything turns out all right. The statistic that you 165 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: were mentioning is the fact that one third of all 166 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: abduction attempts occur on school routes. We just saw that 167 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: with Jamie Close. That was exactly what happened to her. 168 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: It happens time and time and time again, but this 169 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: was a little bit different. But one has to be 170 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: somewhat forgiving. I think of the school authorities for allowing 171 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: this little boy to leave the premises with his mother alarmed. 172 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: James checks back at home end at Amy's John, but 173 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: there is no sign of his estranged wife, Timothy. If 174 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: I need to figure out what's going on, I called 175 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: Amy's cell phone a couple of times, always went to voicemail. 176 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, just tell me. If you find just call me. 177 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: What's going on. So you spent that first night having 178 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: no idea where they were, Yeah, no idea where they were. 179 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: I called her mom, I called her dad to see 180 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: if where she if she'd been there, and I'm like, okay, 181 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: she's upset me for some reason. She's still needs some 182 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: time to cool down. So the next morning comes around, 183 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: they're still not home. So I called the police. Department 184 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: and the clerk, Amy and Timothy missing. Another day passes 185 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: with James left in the dark, and then a sign 186 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: of hope. Amy does not contact her husband, but she 187 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: checks in with her mother. She said, well, we're fine. 188 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: We'll be home on a day or two. You know, 189 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: just like I just needed some time alone to figure 190 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: out and try to think about what how do you 191 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: approach this. Amy also calls James's brother. I have no 192 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: idea why she called her brother. He could hear Timothy 193 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: in the background, plane or hanging out, but there was 194 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: one part of that relate conversation that will ring in 195 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: James Pittson's ears for a long time to come. Would 196 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: you say, Timothy's fine, Timothy's Timothy's belongs to me. Timothy 197 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: and al will be fine. That Timothy is safe, Timothy 198 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: belongs to me. Did your brother find that train? Yeah, 199 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: he called me about it. At first, he was bullied 200 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: with hope because Timothy was alive. The grandma knew that 201 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: he was alive, That mother was fine. That grandma, Linda Pittson, 202 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: you heard speaking to me earlier. And then this. James 203 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: admits he and Amy were struggling but had no idea 204 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: how much until the mystery unfolds later. At first, he 205 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: figures police will soon find his wife and son, then 206 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: he can finally sit down with Amy and sort everything out. 207 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: At least you know that they're they're gathering safe and 208 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: nothing gonna happen. I mean, yeah, so, so the cops 209 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: are looking for him. I figured that everything can be 210 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: fine and we'd be one big, happy family a game. 211 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: And sure enough, three days after their disappearance, there is 212 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: a knock on his door. It's the police, and they 213 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: definitely have news. They have found Amy Pittson in nearby Rockford, Illinois, 214 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: and she's dead by her own hand. Now, James Pittson 215 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: is reeling and shocked. As soon as the police officers 216 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: said that they found Amy deceased, I was like, give me, like, 217 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: what do you mean she's deceased. I was a total 218 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: shock at the time. And they told me where she where. 219 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: She was found in a little cheap, little motel. How 220 00:13:52,360 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: did Amy die? Um? She had a razor blade, she 221 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: cut herself. Then the second piece of bad news drums 222 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: and James's heart sinks. Little six year old Timothy was 223 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: not with his mother and he is nowhere to be found, 224 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: and you're hearing our friends at crime Watch Delhi. To 225 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: Atlanta criminal lawyer, former prosecutor, current defense attorney Daryl Cohen, 226 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: there was no sign of Timothy Pittson in the hotel room. 227 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: In fact, some of the last surveillance of Timothy shows 228 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: him with his mom at a water park in Wisconsin. 229 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean when they went on a meandering trip. They 230 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: really went on a meandering trip. She was taking him 231 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: to fun parks and restaurants and fun things all along 232 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: the trip, and it culminated with her committing suicide, but 233 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: no indication she hurt Timothy. What do you make of that? 234 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: There is absolutely no logic that I can apply to this. 235 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: We have to just take it the way it is. 236 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: We have a mom who obviously did not know how 237 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: to tell the truth. We have a mom who was 238 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: obviously contemplating suicide and committed suicide. What happened to her son? 239 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's any logical explanation. We could 240 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: just hold and pray that it will work out and 241 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: we will hear from him or hear about him soon. 242 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: To Jesscott Morgan, forensics expert author of Blood Beneath My 243 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon. Jesscott You've dealt with many, many suicide scenes, 244 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: but very often you'll find a suicide note. Why would 245 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: anyone have a motive to lie at the very end 246 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: of their life. She says, he's with friends, he's safe, 247 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: and he will never be found. A lot of suicides 248 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: are committed obviously they're anger driven. I would be I 249 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: would think that this is kind of a final exclamation 250 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: point that is directed toward probably members in her circle, 251 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: like the father. Just the ultimate cruel intention here relative 252 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: to this if in fact she has spirited this child away, 253 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: hidding him somewhere, maybe she turned him over to someone 254 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: that took him out of the country, who knows, No 255 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: one knows, but you know, at the end of the day, 256 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: to leave a note and to just tug at the 257 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: heartstrings of this father giving him hope is just unfathomable. 258 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: Giving him hope. And for the last eight years we 259 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: have been looking for Timothy Pittson. And then in the 260 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: last days a massive earth shattering breakthrough, a young man 261 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: who looks like he's in his teens appears and announces 262 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: he's Timothy Pittson. And he looks like Timothy Pittson, he 263 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: acts like Timothy Pittson. He walks like Timothy Pittson, and 264 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: I am elated. Now taken to account. This mom Joe 265 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: five hundred miles in just three days with her little boy, 266 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: and it culminates in a suicide note. Police discover a 267 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: shocking suicide note on the table, triggering a mystery that 268 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: haunts James every day. What note did Amy leave at 269 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: the motel? She apologize for the mess she created and 270 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: that Timothy was safe with people who loved him and 271 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: he would never be found. She said, Timothy is safe, yes, 272 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: and will never be found, safe with people who loved him, 273 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: and then would never be found. So basically Amy just 274 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: hands off Timothy to another person or another couple. Just 275 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: here you go. Yeah, pretty much from what I understand. 276 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: What kind of people are use that would just take 277 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: a six year old? I have no idea. She might 278 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: have been in contact with them for months. I don't 279 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: know what she could have said to them to get 280 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: some way to do that take up a child from 281 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: the rest of his family. Another note Amy mail to 282 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: her mother, Hungana Anderson, is no less confounding. On a 283 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: phone interview for the Nancy Gray Show, Alanna reads the 284 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: letter on air shortly after Amy's suicide. So I've taken 285 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: him somewhere safe. He will be well, kid for and 286 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: he says that he loves super. Please know that there 287 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: is nothing you could have said her done that would 288 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: have changed my mind. Cryptic words that only a dead 289 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: woman can decipher. An inspection of Amy's SUV by police 290 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: shows that she had pulled off an unpaved road somewhere 291 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: on her final journey, backing into a field and leaving 292 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: grass and dirt under the rear bumper. That was on 293 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: a graveled blacktop road. It's worse she was or that's 294 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: where the switch happened. But alarmingly, investigators also find dried 295 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: blood on the backseat of Amy's car. The family says 296 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: it's a false lead, the result of a nosebleed from 297 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: Timothy months before that road trip, but cops conduct an 298 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: exhaustive search for the boy in some of the remote 299 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: areas along Amy's long distance room. Our friends at Crime 300 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: Watch Daily and me speaking to Timothy's grandma to J. 301 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics Jacksonville State University, author of Blood 302 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: Beneath My Feet on Amazon, explain in a nutshell how 303 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: they determined the alleged handoff took place on a gravel 304 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: top road. Well, there's there's specific evidence that ties it 305 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: back that the car actually came in contact with that 306 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: particular surface, and then there's evidence left behind by the 307 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: car as well as what is found within the car, 308 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: so that gives you an indication of where they were 309 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: located to Mark Class, founder of Class Kids Foundation, who 310 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: has devoted his life to saving children. Mark Class, what 311 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: do you make of their analysis that the handoff mom 312 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: made of Timothy Pittson, who is now seemingly emerged live 313 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: and well on a graveltop Right, where did that lead police? 314 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Whoa l absolutely nowhere? And there are so many roads 315 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: that fit that description within a five hundred mile path 316 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: that it's unfathomable and impossible to impossible to really research 317 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: or investigate. I believe that the things that she said 318 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: at the end were just so cruel, Nancy, just unbelievable 319 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: that she would say, he's fine, but you'll never find them. 320 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: Where does that leave Everybody leaves him with an open 321 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: wound that can only be healed by the discovery of 322 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: the little boy. The discovery of the little boy. And 323 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: you're right, Mark, You're right. And you have lived through 324 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: this every day of your life since Polly disappeared. And 325 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: can I say something quickly. I was just in a 326 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: meeting with the governor of California just two weeks ago, 327 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: and he looked me in the eye and he said 328 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: that he's not going to be the governor to execute 329 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: seven hundred people or two people a day for a year. 330 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: And he said, for that reason, he was declaring a 331 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: moratorium on the death penalty. And when he said that, 332 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: I felt that I had been betrayed. I felt that 333 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: I had been betrayed by somebody in a position of trust. 334 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: And a little bit of me died at that moment. 335 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: And you know, that's how people feel when you're dealing 336 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: with the death of a child. You're being taunted one 337 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: way or the other, time and time and time again. 338 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: There never seems to be any kind of finality. So, 339 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: you know, for this family to go through all of 340 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: that for all of those years, and then finally yesterday, 341 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: this amazing discovery that a man walks into the town 342 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: and he declares he's the little boy. He looks like 343 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: the little boy, he acts like the little boy, he 344 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: knows the little boy's birthday, it's a Eureka moment, and 345 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: he knows everything about Timothy, the disappearance. It's got to 346 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: be him, and over all the years, the dad never 347 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: gave up hope. James Pittson, alone with all who knew 348 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: any best, insists that she would never harm Timothy under 349 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: any circumstances. I know his life, his life somewhere. Amy 350 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: would never do anything to hurt Timothy. Timothy was like 351 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: her little prince, and he continues to hope that someday, 352 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: soon he will get another knock on the door, this 353 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: time with the best news of his life. By every day, 354 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: get up and take my phone and wait for the 355 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: detective and say, hey, we found Timothy here. It's going 356 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: to be a glorious day. This can't wait. It's kind 357 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: to be happy. I'm gonna cry a lot, me cry 358 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: a lot when he comes home. That's Timothy's dad with 359 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: our friends at Crime Watch Daily. I mean, Mark Class. 360 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever had these dreams or 361 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: even dreamed it in your waking moments, but that dream 362 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: where Polly comes back and you see her, you see 363 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: her again and you're with her again. I've dreamed that 364 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: about Keith, my fiancee, and that sounds like what Timothy's 365 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: dads dreamed. It's it's so hard, but it is a 366 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: dream that you have, and it turns out that it's 367 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: the only way that you can really have a conversation 368 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: with your loved one that has passed on. It's absolutely 369 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: the only way. And these are the kind of dreams 370 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: that would first startled you and then finally you accept 371 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: exactly what's going on and you start having that community. 372 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, Nacy, over time, even those 373 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: fade and it becomes more and more a sense of 374 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: the child that you nurtured and loved and hope so 375 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: much for. The hope ultimately starts to fade. It doesn't disappear, 376 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: but it begins like a big wide boulevard and by 377 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: the time you know, you get to a certain point, 378 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: it's like you're teetering on a fine thread, just hoping 379 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: beyond hope that something's going to happen and that you're 380 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: going to be able to recover what you would so 381 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: what you had lost. And then our friends at WCPOTV 382 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: break the news. Good evening everyone, tonight, the FBI is 383 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: conducting a DNA tess trying to determine if a teenager 384 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: found right here in the Try State is Timothy Pittson, 385 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: and Pittson actually when missing from northern Illinois back in 386 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: twenty eleven. Now, multiple police agencies from several states are 387 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: investigating this case, and the FBI and officers from Aurora, 388 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: Illinois are likely in Cincinnati right now. They're trying to 389 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: figure out if the teenager's claims are valid. Police found 390 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: the teenager in Newport this morning after receiving calls from 391 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: concerned neighbors. He told police he was Timothy Pittson and 392 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: had escaped from two kidnappers. Wow, joining me right now, 393 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: syndicated talk show host Dave mac Dave, tell me where 394 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: he came from, how did they find him, how did 395 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: he emerge, how did he make himself? Know what happened? 396 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: According to Sharon Hall Nancy, she lives in Newport, Kentucky, 397 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: just across the Ohio River from Cincinnati. She said she 398 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: saw a young person in a hoodie hanging out on 399 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: the street at seven thirty in the morning, claiming that 400 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: he looked nervous. He seemed a little standoffish. She said, 401 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: we literally thought he was going to collapse. So she 402 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: is approached by this young man. Okay, he says, call 403 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: nine one one. I've just escaped from two kidnappers. Officers arrive. 404 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: The police immediately are getting a report from him. He 405 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: claims he is the missing him at the Pittson and 406 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of information. One of the reports 407 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: in the claim, they claimed that he'd been held against 408 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: his will. One of the guys was a black, curly 409 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: haired man wearing a Mountain dew t shirt and that 410 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: he was in a red roof inn just across the 411 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: bridge in Cincinnati. There was another man with him with 412 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: a snake tattoo on his arms, very specific that he 413 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: was a little smaller than the other man. They were 414 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: in a Ford SUV with Wisconsin license plates. Well. The 415 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: Newport Police Lieutenant Chris Fangman said that the person that 416 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: they found was ematiated and in need of medical attention, 417 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: so they followed standard procedures trying to identify him to 418 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: verify that he actually was who he claimed to be. 419 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: You know what, Dave, Matt, You're so right. Take a 420 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: listen to our friends at WCPO TV. It's christ and 421 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: Swilley talking to Timmy's grandma. I'm very hopeful that it's 422 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: him and then he's okay. After years of wondering what 423 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: happened to her grandson, Alana Anderson's nightmare could be coming 424 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: to a close. Cautiously helpful, very cautiously hopeful, and if 425 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: it turns out to be him, will be thrilled. Timothy 426 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: Pittson is a rora Illinois only missing child case according 427 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. A 428 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: public information officer where the Aurora PD tells our sister 429 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: station what happened here in the Tri State is a 430 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: strong lead and the department is in touch with Pittson's dad. 431 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: It just tugs at your heart. I'm a little speechless hero, 432 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: which is unlike to a certain extent many people here 433 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: remember when then six year old Pittson went missing in 434 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: twenty eleven. They now hope this family and this community 435 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: get the answers they've been waiting for. Absolutely, my thoughts 436 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: and prayers are with them for the best outcome for everyone. 437 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: Anderson hopes he's okay, both physically and mentally. He's been 438 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: in a good place when he was gone, and he's 439 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: going to come back to us. And if the team 440 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: is in fact her grandson. She wants to pass this 441 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: message along that we never stopped looking for him, thinking 442 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: about him, and that we love him and we'll do 443 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: everything to get him back to a good life. Climb 444 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. You've been saying, of all the 445 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: sightings over the years, this felt like the most promising 446 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: he did. Getting this news today, how is that? It's devastating. Yeah, 447 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: it's like we're living that day all over again, and 448 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: Timothy's father is devastated once again, as are we. You know, 449 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: I was very close to tim He spent a lot 450 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: of time here. Last morning I had am crawled in 451 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: bed with me and told me I was the best 452 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: grandma in the whole white world. So he's a wonderful 453 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: little boy, and I hope he has a strength of 454 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: personality to do whatever he needs to do to find us. 455 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: My prayers always been that when he was old enough, 456 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: he would find us if we couldn't find him. Dave Max, 457 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: Syndicated talk show host Mark Class, Darryl Cohen, Bethany Marshall 458 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: just got Morgan devastating, Absolutely devastating. Mark Class. Before I 459 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: get to the impostor, I mean, I can't even imagine 460 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: being told that Keith is alive and then find out 461 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: it's a hoax and that was a fiance. My children 462 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: are the closest thing I've ever had, the greatest love 463 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: I've ever had on earth, and I can't imagine it. 464 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: You've suffered that when Polly was taken away from you. 465 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: Excuse me? What do you think this did to Timothy's father. 466 00:29:53,960 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: It's cruelty bordering on sadism, because I mean, like I mentioned, 467 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're on a thread of hope, and 468 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: then this Eureka moment occurs and everything looks exactly perfect, 469 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: you see the light at the end of the tunnel, 470 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: and then to find out it's a hoax. It's devastating. 471 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 1: It's psychologically crippling. He's poor people to have to go 472 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: through something like that. Why would this man do what 473 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: he did knowing that his hopes would be found out 474 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: in a very short amount of time. It's just absolutely 475 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: horrible too. Dave Max, indicated talk show host. How did 476 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: they determine this guy who looks like Timothy, talks like Timothy, 477 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: walks like Timothy, knows all so many details about Timothy 478 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: and his life and his disappearance. How did they determine 479 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: it's not him, Nancy. It was very simple. They ran 480 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: DNA and this guy had a long time to make 481 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: this plan. This wasn't something he just created at the 482 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: spur of the moment trying to get a free meal. 483 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: This guy plotted and planned this and I think we 484 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: know where he was able to do it. Where in prison. 485 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: He spent fourteen months in prison in Ohio where he 486 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: had nothing but time on his hands to study this case. 487 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: But Timothy Pittson case, he knows. He looks young. He's 488 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: a twenty three year old man named Brian Reeney. He 489 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: looks fourteen when you actually see him. He does look young, 490 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: but he's got a long, extensive criminal record in northeast Ohio. 491 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: He was there when this all happened, so he was 492 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: intimately familiar with the missing case of Timothy Pittson. So 493 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: in his time in jail, he had access to the internet, 494 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: had plenty of time to study this and that's how 495 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: he knew so much information about Timothy Pittson and his disappearance. 496 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: So he knew his birthday, so he knew basic things 497 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: about Timothy's life. And he was immediately at seven thirty 498 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: in the morning, ready to get that on the hook. 499 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: But he had to know. This is the evil part, Nancy. 500 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: The guy was in the criminal justice system. He knew 501 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: they had his DNA, he knew they had his fingerprints. 502 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: He knew he would be found out very quickly. I'm 503 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: just sit you said he was in prison and Dave 504 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: Matt what is his criminal history? All right, He's got 505 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: a long one. In twenty seventeen, Brian Rainey threw a 506 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: party inside a four hundred thousand dollars Ohio home that 507 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: was up for sale. It was a model home. He 508 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: told neighbors he'd planned to buy the house, was going 509 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: to throw a big party. Actually ran a Facebook page 510 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: said We're gonna party, bring your own drugs. They did 511 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of damage to the home. He was charged 512 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: with burglary and vandalism. That's what he was sent to 513 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: prison for in January of twenty and eighteen. He was 514 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: sentenced eighteen months. He served fourteen months of that sentence. Now, 515 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: prior to this, he had a history of bad check. 516 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: In two eleven, he was pulled over for a simple 517 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: moving violation and he gave out his brothers, his younger 518 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: brother's identity. The young brother didn't even know about it 519 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: until a couple of days later when they had a 520 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: warrant phrase arrest. I mean, this guy has done he's 521 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: done horrible things to his own family, and now he's 522 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: inflicting this kind of damage, this emotionally devastating story. It 523 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: just goes through comprehension that you know what size sticking 524 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: out in my mind to Dodgor Bethany Marshall, and I'm 525 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: gonna follow up with Daryl Cohen. The nature of the crimes. 526 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: It's not a smashing grab, it's not an armed robbery. 527 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: What they are are deceptive crimes, that crimes of deception, 528 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: writing a series of bad checks, making false alarms to 529 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: law enforcement, faking owning a half a million dollar home 530 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: and doing two thousand dollars worth of damage in it, 531 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: throwing a party with drugs. For instance, he would dial 532 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: nine one one to falsely claim to police's ex girlfriend 533 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: was going to commit suicide. Who would come up with 534 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: a line like that? Passing bad checks? Play guilty intooth 535 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: all the way back in twenty thirteen to quote falsification. 536 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: All of his incidents are about lies. Dear Old Cohen, 537 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: and when you do a calendar call with one hundred 538 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: and fifty felons like you and I did you know 539 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: me for ten years? There's a difference between the killer 540 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: and a smashing grab or a car thief and somebody 541 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: that commits crimes by deception, Nancy. In many ways, someone 542 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: who commits the type of crimes that he has committed 543 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: far worse than someone who does a smashing grab, someone 544 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: who does a burglary, a legitimate burglary. What he does 545 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: as he's tearing the hearts out of people, he's tearing 546 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: their souls. And what he has done for this young 547 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: man that's still missing, what he has done to that 548 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: young man's father, is beyond belief and beyond comprehension. And 549 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: I would love to go back in the DA's office 550 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: and prosecute him for everything that he has done. Everything 551 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: to doctor Bethany Marshall, what does this mean? All of 552 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: his history are crimes by deception and lying and fabricating 553 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: and falsifying. Well, to me, it seems like shallow, thrill 554 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: seeking behavior. In every single crime. He has something to gain, 555 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: but what he's trying to gain is very impulsive, momentary. 556 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: It's a it's a quick, cheap thrill that will never 557 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: pay off in the long run. Look, someone goes in 558 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: and robs a bank, they're going to take a hundred 559 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. They're going to hold on to that, They're 560 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: going to spend it over a course of time and 561 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: hope not to get caught. You give out your brother's identity, 562 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: or you throw a party in a four hundred thousand 563 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: dollar home, or you pretend to be a missing little boy, 564 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: what are you getting in this case? He's getting the 565 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: cheap thrill of the attention of the police on that 566 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: day what he wanted, but just got more going. O'try 567 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: how great of a fake he is. DNA doesn't lie ever, No, 568 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't, Nancy, And it's it's a solid backstop that 569 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: we have now that we haven't had in the past. 570 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: This is a case where if folks at home will 571 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: just think about it's basic paternity. When it comes down 572 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: to it, you know they've they've got DNA own file 573 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: through the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, the 574 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: FBI have access to it. It is a backstop that 575 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: stops this kind of thing. To mark class found of 576 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: Class kis foundation that lays us at the beginning, where 577 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: is Timothy Well Nancy the cryptic nature of her final notes. 578 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: I think we're almost the nail in the coffin. I mean, 579 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: of course I can be wrong. Of course, children continue 580 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: to be found and recovered and brought back to their families. 581 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: But this family has been subjected to such evil and 582 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: such cruelty over such a long period of time. Now 583 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: I only hope that they can get an answer that 584 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: brings him finality, whatever that answer is, whether they discover 585 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: the remains of the little boy, or whether in fact 586 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: another young man comes forward in the coming years or 587 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: coming days or coming weeks and turns out to actually 588 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: be Timothy. But they deserve closure. The family says their 589 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: prayer is and has always been, that one day, when 590 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: Timothy is old enough, he will find his family. Nancy, 591 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: We're just now getting new information from the FBI and 592 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: federal prosecutors in Cincinnati about Brian Reeney. They are charging 593 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: him with lying to the FBI, and the FBI releasing 594 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: an arrest avadavit details including that Rennie told investigators he 595 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 1: got the idea to pose as Timothy Pittson after seeing 596 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: a twenty twenty segment on the case, and he said 597 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: he'd always wanted to have a father like Timothy's. Now, 598 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: let's listen to US District Attorney Benjamin Glassman. The DNA 599 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: test that was the bugle swab that had been extracted 600 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: from him was submitted from the FBI to the Hamilton 601 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: County Corner's office, which was able to turn around. A 602 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: quick analysis of that swab and comparison of that DNA 603 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: to the DNA of Timothy Pittson's parents indicated that the 604 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: person in question was not, in fact Timothy Pittson. So 605 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: then yesterday FBI agents returned to talk again to the 606 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: individual claiming to be Timothy Pittson. They identified themselves to 607 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: him as an FBI agent, They warn't, they administered Miranda warnings. 608 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: They warned him that lying to a federal agent is 609 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: a violation of federal law. Nevertheless, he again repeated that 610 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: he was Timothy Pittson and had escaped from a hotel 611 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: where he had been held captive. Then law enforcement confronted 612 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: him with the DNA results, and at that point the 613 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: person immediately stated that he was not Timothy Pittson. And 614 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: of course law enforcement knew by virtue of the DNA 615 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: analysis that he was in fact Brian Reeney further investigation 616 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: by law enforcement indicated that Renie had actually, on two 617 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: prior occasions, claimed to be a victim of juvenile sex trafficking, 618 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: and that on those occasions he had been discovers true 619 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: identity had been discovered when he had been fingerprinted. Based 620 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: on all of that information, the United States has proceeded 621 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: to file a federal criminal charge against Brian Renee for 622 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: a lying to a federal agent within the jurisdiction of 623 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: the United States. The crime in this case is punishable 624 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: by up to eight years in federal prison because it 625 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: does involve lying with respect to a material matter about 626 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: an investigation that involves sex trafficking of children. I want 627 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: to say that first that on behalf of the United States, 628 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: my heart goes out to the family of Timothy Pittson. 629 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: I can only imagine the kind of pain that they 630 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: have been through and that this episode has caused for them. 631 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 1: Mister Reeney appeared in federal court on this charge about 632 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: forty five minutes ago at the United States request. He 633 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: was held without bond at the current time, and he 634 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: will have a detention hearing on Tuesday. So I'm going 635 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: to yield the podium momentarily to Acting Special Agent in 636 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: Charge Sableton, and then to Special Asian in Charge Brown 637 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: and Hamilton County Corner So Marco. After they've had an 638 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 1: opportunity to make comments, I will return and answer any 639 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 1: questions you have. The only additional point that I want 640 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: to make before yielding the podium is that the investigation 641 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 1: with respect to mister Reeney remains open and ongoing. So 642 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: if anyone who is watching has additional information with respect 643 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: to his, information about him or his immediate whereabouts prior 644 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: to being encountered by the police, asked them to contact 645 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: FBI Cincinnati with that I will yield the podium to 646 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: mister Stapleton. On Wednesday, April third, twenty nineteen, Newport, Kentucky 647 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 1: Police responded to a report of a male acting suspiciously. 648 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: This individual, as mister Glasman said, allegedly claimed to be 649 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: Timothy Pittson, who had been missing from since twenty eleven 650 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: from Aurora, Illinois, and he also made statements about being 651 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: abducted and trafficked and sex trafficked a victim of sex trafficking. 652 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: The individual was taken to a local hospital for treatment, 653 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: including in an interview with a forensic psychologist and for 654 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: confirmation of his identity. While our agents and other law 655 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: enforcement partners were skeptical that this person was who he 656 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: claimed to be, we felt that it was our duty 657 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: to the victims and the family of Timothy Pittson to 658 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: follow up all logical leads with respect to this case 659 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: and do our best to confirm or discount the identity 660 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: of the person claiming to be Timothy Pittson. After scientific 661 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: testing to determine if the identity of the individual matched 662 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: the DNA from Timothy Pittson, the results determined it was 663 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: not the same person, and a further search of the 664 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: DNA database revealed that the individual encountered in Newport was 665 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: actually Brian Reeney, an adult from a Dina, Ohio. Clearly, 666 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: false reports like this one can be painful to the 667 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 1: families of missing children, and they also divert valuable law 668 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: enforcement resources in order to investigate untruthful claims. Law enforcement 669 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: takes dishonest reports very seriously, and as these charges today show, 670 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: so does the United States Attorney's Office, and we caution 671 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: that people making false claims can and will face criminal 672 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: penalties for their for their false claims. Keep updated on 673 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: this story and others on Nancy's Crime Injustice website, crime 674 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: online dot Com, Nancy Grace Crime Stories, Running Off, Goodbye friend,