1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hey Disco's, You can listen to an extended version of 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: this after party episode by becoming a member of Disgraceland 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: All Access. Just go to disgracelandpod dot com slash membership 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: for more details and to sign up. What's up, everybody, 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Disgraceland, which is brought to you by Double Elvis. 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: This week, we have a part two of our Peter 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Tosh story in the Disgraceland feed. And don't forget about 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: that exclusive Hunter S. Thompson episode that's available to our 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: All Access members and our Patreon and Apple subscription feeds. 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: You can go get that now. You got to do 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: a sign up. Another reminder to all the parents out there, 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: we have a brand new episode of our new season 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: of Music Land Stories, Season two, set this time not 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: in space but in the ocean. That's our fiction show 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: for kids and families, and that's available for you right 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: now as well. And finally, over in Shred with Shifty, 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: that's our show hosted by Chris Shiflett of the Foo Fighters. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: He's got a brand new episode talking to guitar slinger 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: Joe Bonamasa. All right, let's do this, Hey Disco, need 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: a little more Disgraceland in your life, just to touch, 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: thing we like to call the after party. This is 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: the show after the show, the party after the party, 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: the bridge to get you from one full episode of 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: On this episode, we are talking about the conclusion of 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: our two part Peter Tosh story, with part two in 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: your Disgraceland feeds right now. Conspiracy theories, some of them 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: involving Peter Tosh's assassination, and of course your voicemails, text, 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: dms and more, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: All right, disc goes, let's get into it, all right. 34 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Conspiracy theories they're a tough hang for me. They are 35 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: a useless wormhole in my opinion. On the one hand, 36 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't really believe it actually in conspiracy theories. Let 37 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: me explain. In the world out there, of course, on 38 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: the Internet and elsewhere, there are of course conspiracy theories. 39 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: I acknowledge that they do exist. I believe that those 40 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: are a thing, Yes, of course I do. But what 41 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe in most of the time anyways, is 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: that these secret cabals, these powerful elements of society, the 43 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Illuminati or whatever. I don't believe that they band together 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: in secret to come up with some sort of master 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: plan to pull off that results in people being killed 46 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: or subjugated or whatever. What I do believe happens more 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: often than not is that powerful forces are unleashed for 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: whatever reason, but usually by happenstance, sometimes by willful ignorance, 49 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: and very rarely in conjunction with one another. And these 50 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: four does affect this super dramatic result. Sure, I will 51 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: admit that, so in retrospect, after say, I don't know 52 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: the President of the United States gets shot in Dallas 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty three, or Jeffrey Epstein kills himself in 54 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: his jail cell, or whatever. It's easy for armchair internet 55 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: sluse modern day tinfoil hat wearers to piece together these 56 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: grand narratives to help explain what can be seen as 57 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: either a super complex storyline that is highly compelling in 58 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: the case of the JFK assassination, or a super obvious explanation, 59 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: as is the case with Jeffrey Epstein's death. The conspiracy 60 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: theory is just the way to explain the unexplainable. Does 61 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: that make sense? It makes sense to me anyways. The conspiracy, 62 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: the theory behind the conspiracy is not the motivating factor, 63 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The CIA did not hold 64 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: meetings with the Mafia and Lyndon Baines Johnson to plot 65 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: out how to murder John F. Kennedy. Bill Clinton did 66 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: not Venmo Prince Andrew five grand to hire a convict 67 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: to make Jeffrey Epstein's murder look like a suicide. No, 68 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: what happened was JFK was a handsome, spoiled rich kid 69 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: who was used to getting whatever the hell he wanted 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: and making his way through the world on his rich 71 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: daddy's dime and his own considerable charm, and in an 72 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: extreme act of hubrist despite however well meeting it might 73 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: have been, he managed to betray and threaten the existence 74 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: of two of the most powerful institutions in the world 75 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: at the same time, the CIA and the Mafia. No 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: conspiracy was needed. The writing was plain as day, and 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: it was right there on the wall. El Prez had 78 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 1: to go. And in the case of Epstein, the reason 79 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: behind his death barely requires any further discussion, so I'm 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: not even gonna touch it, but to say just that 81 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: there was no conspiracy. It was just decided he had 82 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: to go. And if it wasn't put into motion by 83 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: one powerful player who Epstein had compromising info on, it 84 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: eventually would have been put into motion by another. Again, 85 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Bill Hillary, jay Z, Danny DeVito, Cara Toop, whoever the 86 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: fuck else was on Epstein's list did not hold conspiratorial 87 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: meetings to determine how to kill the man. It was 88 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: just gonna happen. He knew too much about two many people. 89 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Someone was eventually going to step up, and they did. 90 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: And no one empower is interested in the truth ever 91 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: coming out, so it won't. On the other hand, the 92 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: world is flat, cocaine is a wonder drug, the g 93 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: spot is real, Lebron James is the greatest basketball player 94 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: of all time. If you disagreed with any of these 95 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: things at one point or another throughout the course of 96 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: our shared history, then you were considered a conspiracy theorist. 97 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: So what the fuck do I know? Well? I do 98 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: know how Peter Tosh died. He was murdered by some 99 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: shit heel Xicon who added out for him for reasons 100 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: you'll have to listen to. In the recent episode of Disgraceland. 101 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a quick break and I'll be back 102 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: on the other side to discuss some of the sources 103 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: that helped us tell this story of Peter Tosh's death. 104 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: All Right, we talked a little about the sources that 105 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: we used for the first Peter Tosh episode in the 106 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: last week's after Party. I'm not going to rehash those here, 107 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: but I did want to talk about some really interesting 108 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: stuff that we dug up that didn't exactly make it 109 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: into the episode. In a way it did, but not 110 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: really in a deep dive kind of way. One of 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: the other books that we used that I haven't mentioned 112 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: yet was This Is Reggae, The Story of Jamaican Music 113 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: by Lloyd Bradley, which came in really handy, not so 114 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: much about Peter Tosh himself, but about the world reggae 115 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: music and Jamaican culture and all that. There's a lot 116 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: of violence in these episodes, these two Peter Tosh episodes 117 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 1: that we did, because this is a lot of violence 118 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: going on in that world in general. It's like if 119 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese made a movie about the music industry. Okay, 120 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: political violence, class violence. The music scene in Jamaica at 121 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: the time was corrupt, but the music side of it 122 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: was healthy. There was huge sound systems which I touched 123 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: upon briefly in this episode. These trucks or wagons, whatever 124 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: you want to call them, outfitted with big, huge speakers 125 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: and amplifiers that made the music portable and home to present. 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: These systems traveled all over the island. These sounds. Was 127 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: it parked on a street corner. They were spinning the 128 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: best vinyl for people, the latest singles that were coming 129 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: out of Jamaica, the latest American and British releases as 130 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: well old favorites. It was fucking great. That sounds amazing 131 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: to me, just like in America of Britain, though nothing new. 132 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: As all this music is being played over and over 133 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: again all over the place. The one is making all 134 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: the money with the record companies and the studio owners. 135 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: Crime bosses went hand in hand during this time with 136 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: the studios, with the record companies, loan sharks making high 137 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: interest loans. It went unpaid. It led to some really 138 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: brutal consequences if you didn't pay up. And then there's 139 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: the music royalties which are supposed to be paid out 140 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: to the artists, but of course they're not, so that 141 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: in turn leads to the studios and the car is 142 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: getting tortured is paid back. A lot of violence, a 143 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: lot of drama. Very interesting. So if you want any 144 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: of that, go to This is Reggae The Story of 145 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: Jamaican Music by Lloyd Bradley. You're gonna get a lot 146 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: of it. And if you're a Jamaican musician back of 147 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: the day at Peter Tosh, someone like Peter Tosh, if 148 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna rock the boat too much, you're gonna get 149 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 1: a target on your back. Peter Tosh, as you heard 150 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: in this episode, did a lot of rocking the boat, 151 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: including you know it's funny and the Bob Marley episode. 152 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 1: We talked about Bob Marley, strong army DJs, Peter Tosh 153 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: just trying to buy the fucking radio station. Okay, it 154 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: wasn't so much to get his music out as it 155 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: was his message. And you know, the theory, the conspiracy theory, 156 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: I hate that word phrase, I mean, was that there 157 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: was a target on his back because of it, and 158 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: it just we're forced to ask because of all this, 159 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: because it's out there, it's in the ether, it's very 160 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: much part of this story. We're forced to ask, why 161 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: was Peter Tosh murdered? He was shot and killed by 162 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: a criminal. Of course, we talked about this someone he 163 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: had pissed off. We talked about the reason why. But 164 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: that answer is not good enough for most people. Most 165 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: people think there is more. I did this little Peter 166 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: Tosh story on part of these episodes where Key takes 167 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: over Keith Richard's home and Keith comes to kick him out, 168 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: and I did this in like ninety seconds over on TikTok, 169 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: and this whole thing erupts, and the comments about how 170 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: Peter Tosh was murdered and who murdered him, why, and YadA, 171 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: YadA YadA. For some reason, with some people, these theories 172 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: just do not go away. So when we do these episodes, 173 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: we are forced to reckon with them, even if we 174 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe them, believe that it was a conspiracy. 175 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: That is to say, so we did. We got into it, 176 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: and I think we presented it in a compelling and 177 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: interesting way. But I want to know what you think. Okay, 178 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: this is not TikTok, this is not Instagram. I have 179 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: time to get into this a little more fully, to 180 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: get into your thoughts on this in a way that 181 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: is perhaps a little bit more comprehensive and a little 182 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: more compelling for us. I want to know what you 183 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: thought about Peter Tosh in his death. Was he murdered 184 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: for some other reason than just criminal revenge or wounded pride? 185 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Was this something deeper than that? Do you believe that anyways? 186 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: I obviously don't. Do you think it was powerful forces 187 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: to be either from the US government or working with 188 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: Jamaican politicians or the Jamaican government, or with the CIA. 189 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: What is it? What's your theory? I want to know? 190 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: Hit me up six one seven nine oh six six 191 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: six three eight and while we're at it, And this 192 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: is not a conspiracy theory. I just believe it's the 193 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: truth hiding in plain sight. Let me know what you 194 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: think of the vengeance that was distributed to Bob Marley's assassins. Okay, 195 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: the seven assassins or would be assassins, I should say, 196 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: who tried to kill Bob Marley? As we discuss in 197 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: the Bob Marley episode of Disgrace Land, which is a 198 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: kin of course, and in conversation with the Peter Tosh episode, 199 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: we discuss how all seven of those assassins wind it 200 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: up dying violent, brutally violent deaths. One was fucking buried alive. Okay, 201 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: Before we get to those deaths, we talk about Bob 202 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: Marley and the violence that is part of his history. 203 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: I alluded to it earlier when I talked about Bob 204 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: Marley strong arming that DJ But of course there's another 205 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: story about Bob Marley finding out that his manager was 206 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: stealing from him, and to force a confession out of 207 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: his manager, he has two of his friends his bodyguards 208 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: hold his manager outside of a seventh story window upside down, 209 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: and then Bob himself, if you're to believe this story, 210 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: holds a gun to his head. So we paint this picture. Obviously, 211 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: that violence was definitely part of Bob Marley's backstory, So 212 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: when all of his assassins wind up dead, it's not 213 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility that Bob had something 214 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: to do with it. Perhaps, what do you think I 215 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: want to know? Six one seven nine oh six six 216 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: six three eight. You can send me a text you 217 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: can send me a voicemail just like Johnny from the 218 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: six to one seven. 219 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: Yo, what's up Jacobs? Johnny Vinyl from the six one 220 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: seven here in Boston my band to shelve our album, 221 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: I would demand five million dollars because I would take 222 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: a lot of that five million, right. I would buy 223 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: my way out of the contract, take the album to 224 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: a different label that believes in US and would release 225 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: the album, and we would pocket change. 226 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: Johnny Vinel appreciate the voicemail man, Johnny's calling in on 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: the question of how much money would you take or 228 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: would you take excuse me, a million dollars to shelve 229 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: a piece of work that you created, that you love, 230 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: that you wanted to put out into the world, but 231 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: the powers that be to that it wasn't good enough, 232 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: so they would offer you a million dollars not to 233 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: put it out. That is, of course, from the story 234 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: of Inexcess and their record kick Johnny calling in. Johnny 235 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: taking a different approach, and I like it being entrepreneurial here. 236 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: You know, give me the five million, and you know 237 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: I'll take what I can million plus two maybe three, 238 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: buy my way out of the contract, go to another 239 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: label that believes in me and release the record there 240 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: and if there's anything left over, you know, I'll put 241 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: it in my pocket, buy myself some new records, maybe 242 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: kick up a couple of shekels to some charity or something. 243 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, put a little extra in the basket 244 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday masks. Maybe Johnny who Knows eight one six 245 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: writes in hey found you on Instagram. Love watching Disgrace 246 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: Land on YouTube. My thing to binge, my new thing 247 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: to binge. I'm having trouble finding your Kurt Cobing and 248 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: suicide episode years ago. I watched Soaked in Bleach and 249 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: believe that both Cobing and Epstein didn't kill them. So 250 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: here we go. Wanted to know your opinion. Also, I 251 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: almost believed that the sixties, San Francisco and LSD would 252 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: keep you busy for the next here. Thank you again 253 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: for your content. Yeah, yeah, eight one six. Okay, let's 254 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: just rewind this a bit. First of all, it sounds 255 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: like you're new you. Sounds like you found us on 256 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: Instagram in the recent future and sorry, in the recent past, 257 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: in the recent future, and I thank you for that. 258 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: At this Grazeslam pod, guys, if you're not following us 259 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: on Instagram, head over there. As for finding us or 260 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: watching us on YouTube, thank you. Those are not our 261 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: podcast episodes, however, we've got a couple of them up there. 262 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: You want to go to Spotify, you want to go 263 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: to Apple Podcasts, you want to go to Iheard, iHeart 264 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: Radio app. You want to go to Amazon Music, and 265 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: you want to find us there, and that's where you 266 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: will find the Kurt Cobaine episode and every other episode 267 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: that we've done. We have some very few episodes up 268 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: on YouTube, and then we have these little sort of 269 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: twenty minute stories that I put together last year that 270 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: are up there as well. I'm currently figuring out, though 271 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: have no fear, how to get all the podcast episodes 272 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: up onto YouTube in short order. We are working on 273 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: that as we speak, all right, but that should not 274 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: delay you from running to your music streaming app of 275 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: choice right now and listening to Disgraceland. And if you do, 276 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: and if you check out the Charles Manson episodes, the 277 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: Mama Cast episodes, you will get all of your San 278 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: Francisco LSD conspiracy content that you sow crave. It's all 279 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: there for you. I'm going to take a quick break 280 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: and I'll be back for you in just a second. 281 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: All right, we're back, and we're approaching the end of 282 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: this week's after party. But if you, like me, don't 283 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: want the after party to end just yet. If you 284 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: need more of this, more behind the scenes, more holy 285 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,479 Speaker 1: shit moments, more engagement, voicemails, more texts, more emails, more interaction, 286 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: I get covered. You can hear more of this week's 287 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: after party by becoming a member of Disgraceland Access. How 288 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: do you do that? It's easy. Just head over to 289 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: disgrace slampod dot com slash membership and for just five 290 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: bucks a month or even less, if you sign up 291 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: for an annual membership, you will get not only an 292 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: extended version of this year after party every single week, 293 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: but one exclusive, fully scripted episode of Disgraceland every month, 294 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: like the all access only episode that we just did 295 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: on Hunter S. Thompson. It's waiting for you right now. 296 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: It's fucking great. You're gonna love it. Trust me. Sign 297 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: up to be an all Access member. Go to disgrace 298 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: lampod dot com slash membership. Next month you're gonna get 299 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: an episode excuse me, March this month, you're gonna get 300 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: an episode on Lane Staley of Alison Chains, got another 301 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: one coming on basked Yat, another one on Chris Cornell. 302 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: All right, lot of great, great exclusive content coming, but 303 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: you've got to be a member. And if you choose 304 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: to become a member on Patreon, you're also going to 305 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: get this bonus, this access to an always on chat 306 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: with me and all the other all access discos who 307 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: are in the Patreon feed. I'm in the Patreon app 308 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: every day, guys. I'm asking questions, not just answering, I'm 309 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: asking them. I'm asking you guys, building playlists, getting your 310 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: recommendation on who we should create episodes on next, what 311 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: kind of beer I should be drinking this weekend? Come 312 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: hang out with us. It's fun, I promise again. That's 313 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: disgracelandpod dot com slash membership to sign up for disgracelant 314 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: all Access and get more Disgraceland in your life, including, 315 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: like I said, an extended version of this year after party, 316 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: where I'm going to be talking more about the various 317 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. See, I'm getting sucked in the various conspiracy 318 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: theories surrounding Peter Tosh's assassination. Specifically, one that said, it 319 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: was a contract hit that was put out there by 320 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: some government officials behind closed doors, all clandestine like. All right, 321 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: So if you want to get into these deeper revelations 322 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: about Peter Tosh and get more of me talking with 323 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: all of you, your voicemails, your text, your DMS, your emails, 324 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: Disgrace lampod dot com slash membership gets you in on 325 00:16:44,360 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: all this, all right, hang tight back in flash. All right, 326 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: let's recap this thing, shall we? Number one? There is 327 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: more after party to listen to right now. All you 328 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: got to do is go to Disgrace lampod dot com 329 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: slash membership, sign up to become an all access member. 330 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: But that ain't your bag, then, hey number two. Right 331 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: now in your feed, we get the second part of 332 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: our two part episode on Peter Tosh. Number three coming tomorrow, 333 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: a rebind episode on Michael Alec number four. Over in 334 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: the bad Lands feed. We've got episodes from the archive 335 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: on Salminio and Danny Treyhu number five. Next week in 336 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: the Disgrace LAMD feed, a brand new episode on Steve McQueen. 337 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: That's right, the man himself, number six, my number six 338 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: one seven nine zero six six six, three eight, call 339 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: me on the telephone or text me number seven. Remember 340 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: no one kids about the musical that you love more 341 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: than you're doing. Well, that's a disgrace, all right. And 342 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: now my moment of bliss in honor of this week's 343 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: episode on Peter Tosh me reading you. The Billboard Hot 344 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: one hundred from the week of September fifth, nineteen eighty seven, 345 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: the week that the reggae superstar was brutally gunned down 346 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: in his own home. Number one LaBamba Los Lobos last 347 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: week one, peak position one weeks on chart eleven, Number two. 348 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: I just can't stop loving you. Michael Jackson last week six, 349 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: peak position two weeks on chart five, number three. Who's 350 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: that Girl? Madonna? Last week to peak position one weeks 351 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: on chart nine, number four. One only in my dreams 352 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: that Debbie Gibson Donnas last week last one five, peak 353 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: position one four, number two, number sixty. Michael jack Richard 354 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: last last six, six, position three weeks, number one. Quit 355 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: talking and start mixing.