WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Where Each Pick Fits

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready

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<v Speaker 1>for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to another episode of The Break today where there's

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<v Speaker 1>no more guessing. There's no more guessing about the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>We already know all the picks and we're gonna break

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<v Speaker 1>it down one by one and go over who these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are and how do they affect the guys are

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<v Speaker 1>already here, how do they play into the whole action?

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into it, how are you guys doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing well and delightful good. It sounded like you

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<v Speaker 1>were kind of just annoyed with the whole process of

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<v Speaker 1>like not not annoyed, but like, hey, well, who's it

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be? Who's gonna be? Now, it's like we're done,

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<v Speaker 1>we know, we know. I thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a quiet draft. But then on the third day

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<v Speaker 1>the cot was ka kept trading back and they ended

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<v Speaker 1>up with a total of eight picks. So it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>how you say the guessing is over. The guessing of

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<v Speaker 1>who is over, and now it's now there's even more

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<v Speaker 1>question marks about like you know, Cam, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>at least we know the guys names. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>group of guys. If you don't, like you don't deal

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<v Speaker 1>well with uncertainty, do you not for a long period

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<v Speaker 1>of time if we're doing it for like a week

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<v Speaker 1>two week? Nightmare? Basically it's just especially at the at

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight, that was a nightmare. I love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the whole pre draft process, like you know, figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out who they like, figuring out who's out there guessing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's fun to speculate. But anyway, for everyone

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, you know you you had, like you guys

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<v Speaker 1>talked about three hundred, four hundred players in this whole

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<v Speaker 1>process and then to come out with eight of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and had you heard of all eight? Um? Heard of?

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<v Speaker 1>Heard of? No? No? Yeah, no, not all? I mean no,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not I'm not Brian and I'm definitely not Dane.

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<v Speaker 1>Dane missed. Dane did not have a scouting report on

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<v Speaker 1>one player and he was a long snapper. Oh one

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<v Speaker 1>player than Cowboys one point player in the entire draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he mad? He was pissed, and he said he

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<v Speaker 1>was like he was like I included the six best

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<v Speaker 1>rated long snappers in my draft guide and this guy

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<v Speaker 1>was not one of them. So like somebody reached on

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<v Speaker 1>a long snapper and Dane was pissed that he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do the homework. It's like, it's gonna be fine, man.

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<v Speaker 1>You got two hundred and fifty three and the two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty four. Um, yeah, they took They took

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<v Speaker 1>a few guys that were kind of off my radar,

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<v Speaker 1>but well, let's get it started, okay. Second round, they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up going at fifty eight with defensive tackle Tristan Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Surprise here, obviously we were already talking about the position.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a guy that was mentioned. I came in

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<v Speaker 1>a Thursday and I looked over and Brian is sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there looking at tape and like he has the last

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks or three months, three weeks, three months, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got guys over his shoulder and they're just watching

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan Hill, and it was almost like, you know this

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna you know, this is definitely gonna happen in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Central Florida called someone on our staff

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<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, if you draft this guy tonight, just

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<v Speaker 1>just know that it's UCF. We don't go by Central Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to go by UCF or University of Central Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking, okay, that's that's fun. But are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna call every team in the league or yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>then then sure enough here he ends up. So to

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<v Speaker 1>say a surprise. Now, if you pay attention, this team

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<v Speaker 1>is not afraid to tell you who they want to take,

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<v Speaker 1>if you read between the lines and pay attention to

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<v Speaker 1>what gets out. I think like a week before the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, you know, nothing is for certain because

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<v Speaker 1>there's fifty seven teams in front of him, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are enamored with this kid. They value three to nique

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, three technique and right defensive end. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are the positions that Rod Marinelli's obsessed with. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know, there's to be perfectly blunt, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a backlash about the pick. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there were there were probably guys with higher pure

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<v Speaker 1>grades on the board. I don't know that for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but there probably were. Um but they value the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of that position. They need it. MALIEK. Collins is

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<v Speaker 1>in a contract year. You know, basically all of their

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackles are in a contract year, and they think

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<v Speaker 1>that this can be you know them, they haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>a pure, you know, sack getting three technique since Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Hatcher's contract year in twenty thirteen, and they think this

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<v Speaker 1>guy can be that, and they thought it was worth

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<v Speaker 1>the pick. A lot of people disagree with them. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way to know for sure, but they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>they clearly they circled this dude's name with a red

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<v Speaker 1>sharpie months ago. Yeah. They you know that they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>addressed the safety position at a high pick, first or

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<v Speaker 1>second round in a long time. And it's because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to. I mean, they clearly just don't value

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<v Speaker 1>that position at that at that price. It reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of nose tackle too. Yeah, like they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're never going to draft a nose tackle up here.

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<v Speaker 1>Nose tackle in the first round? Was it Jerry Jones

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<v Speaker 1>who said mentioned, okay, if you have a great line,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean pressuring the quarterbacking and getting to it

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<v Speaker 1>that really helps the safety position. And it all It's

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<v Speaker 1>a domino effect from from what it sounds like. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this has been told on you know, Yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>show and some of the other shows, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded like they got in the room and one

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<v Speaker 1>Thornhill from Virginia was the guy that they were wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to take, and you know, they went around and I

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<v Speaker 1>think they just felt better at safety, better with the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are there, with Heath and Woods. Um, then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they did in the long term um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>long term process of the defensive tackle position. They just

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<v Speaker 1>felt better at what they had. It's another, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>another reason I love the draft so much. It creates

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<v Speaker 1>these subplots every year. We know who they liked and

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<v Speaker 1>who they might have taken this year. So all eyes

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<v Speaker 1>will be on Juan Thornhill in Kansas City to see

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<v Speaker 1>how he does. If he becomes an All Pro. That's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting. You know. Famously, they picked Taco Charlton

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<v Speaker 1>over t J. Watton. Looks like a pretty bad pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now. They picked Zach Martin over Johnny Manziel and

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<v Speaker 1>that was a great idea. Zeke and Jalen Ramsey, every

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<v Speaker 1>single pick could have been another guy. So for the

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<v Speaker 1>next four years everyone. I mean, we'll have a close

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<v Speaker 1>eye on wan Thornhill to see if they were right

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<v Speaker 1>about Guy Ridley. Probably l Ridley or DJ Moore. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good question because I think they were so hell

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<v Speaker 1>bent on Layton vander esh which speaking of safety, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I say that all the time is well, they could

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<v Speaker 1>have traded up for Derwin James, Like it's pretty obvious

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<v Speaker 1>that if Derwin James had been there at nineteen, they

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<v Speaker 1>still would have taken Layton. Yeah, that's how much they

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<v Speaker 1>thought about him. So, I mean, they both look like

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be really good players. But I can't I

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<v Speaker 1>can't knock. I can't knock the pick based on how

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<v Speaker 1>great Layton was. And you said, I'm probably Ridley or

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Moore if I had to guess. I think all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back to Zach Martin in twenty fourteen, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the last time I kind of think that we were

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<v Speaker 1>a little surprised. Maybe or he came out of I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about out of nowhere, but there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many defensive guys they wanted that it's like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure who they're going to take, and they took

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin and it was a somewhat of a surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>But the next few years Byron Jones in fifteen Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen Taco, well, Tac Taco was a surprise. Was

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise. I don't remember who was there. We knew

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<v Speaker 1>thought of it might be that big talk foreigner. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin King, y, Yeah, we knew they were not high

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<v Speaker 1>on t J. Watt. Kevin King was a consideration. I

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised by the Taco pick. Yeah, that's true. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say that we hadn't been surprised. So we

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much have the thing. If not to pat us

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<v Speaker 1>on the back, but if you listen, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're dialed into us in the weeks leading up to

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, we might not one hundred percent nail it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna give you the name eventually. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the names we have circled will be the

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<v Speaker 1>guy they pick every year. So this guy, and just

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<v Speaker 1>by what I've seen briefly of him, he just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like he's just a pain in the ass for the center.

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<v Speaker 1>He just he just lines up over him in a

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<v Speaker 1>in a you know, just all right off the ball

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<v Speaker 1>and center guard. He just he's a problem. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of those high motor guys that really needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be in an eight man rotation where he can

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<v Speaker 1>just come in and be a part of it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what he'll have here. If you watch him on tape,

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<v Speaker 1>he's always busting his butt to kill the quarterback like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's definitely true. And he you know, Dane Brugler, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a great line, Like there's only so many human

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<v Speaker 1>beings on earth who are that size, who can move

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<v Speaker 1>that quickly. He's six two and a half three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eight pounds and can get off the snap. So

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<v Speaker 1>I get why Rod Marinelli's enamored with him. I totally

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Um you know, I might have drafted a

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<v Speaker 1>safety in that spot, but they don't care about my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would have taken to safety too. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this draft more than any shows us that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know we're gonna get into the next picks too, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's, yes, it's about right now. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think they did some projecting here in the future of

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<v Speaker 1>like what this team is going to look like in

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<v Speaker 1>a year, and really glad that we did this and

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<v Speaker 1>this and this because of that, Well, I thought that.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips wrote a pretty interesting article on Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com which where he mentions how this team has

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<v Speaker 1>been picking for several years, how they reconstructed their offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line and how that came out to be pretty solid

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<v Speaker 1>during the end times of Romo and then transitioning to

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott. Now their focus seemed to be unleas in

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<v Speaker 1>the first three rounds to be on the d line,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rob mary Nelly and what he's doing. So he

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<v Speaker 1>goes to show what they're doing here, obviously drafting a

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the second round defensive tackle, which we just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you got on the fifth round defensive end

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Jackson, and then you go on to the last

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<v Speaker 1>round defensive end Jalen Jump. Leave that. Leave that orphan

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<v Speaker 1>talk at the door. In twenty nineteen, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it anymore. Yeah, no more. Got that one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and whatever million, DeMarcus Lawrence. You got second round

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<v Speaker 1>pick Tristan Hill, third round pick Maleiue Collins, first round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>Taco Charlton, third round pick. Crowded group, pretty Randy Gregory

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<v Speaker 1>if he's there, Pretty pretty crowded room full of guys

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<v Speaker 1>that they spent resources to get, so don't come at

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<v Speaker 1>me with that stickery. It reminds me a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>what Carolina did a few years ago when they just

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<v Speaker 1>kept picking Yeah, second and third and first round guys,

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<v Speaker 1>just just loading up the defensive line and before you

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<v Speaker 1>know it, they have a really good team. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>last for that long and they and they didn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>never does, you know, unless you're in Foxboro, Massachusetts. It

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<v Speaker 1>just never lasts that. But it seems like this is

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<v Speaker 1>the year for it. I mean, you got so many

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<v Speaker 1>guys within the group to compete. A really good a

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<v Speaker 1>really good player is going to get cut from this

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<v Speaker 1>defensive line and that's in September. Like, there's just not enough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not enough space. Even if they keep ten, you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably I mean, you know, you drafted three defensive linemen

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<v Speaker 1>this year. You have Dorian's Armstrong, who's still coming on

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<v Speaker 1>from last year. Like like, I I mean, are you

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<v Speaker 1>surprised by how much resource they've put into this whole

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<v Speaker 1>position group? Not really, because since they cut to Marcus Ware,

0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.320
<v Speaker 1>their lack of pass rush has killed them on a

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<v Speaker 1>number of occasions. Rod Marinelli clearly has a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>influence in this organization and he's a past rush guru,

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<v Speaker 1>so no, it doesn't surprise. And you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>think about the end of this season, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole David Irvy thing was was weird, but but there

0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.960
<v Speaker 1>was always a spot for him. And if if Irving

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<v Speaker 1>ever showed up to practice and was there for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks in a row and then they he's

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<v Speaker 1>ready to play, that there would have been a spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, he probably just takes because remember Karen

0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Reid was playing, Daniel Ross was active, so there's a

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<v Speaker 1>spot for Tristan Hill. You know, David Irving's gone Tristan

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<v Speaker 1>Hill with his spot. But I think when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the whole like eight man rotation, let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>that Gregory is active for week one, which is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be that's quite a story. Well, then with him back

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<v Speaker 1>into the mix and all this story, Garry Jones has

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<v Speaker 1>said that he's confident that he that he can be.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know how or what or how that's gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's say he is defensive end. You're you're a

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<v Speaker 1>rotation for that first game against the Giants. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>what DeMarcus and Quinn DeMarcus and Quinn and then Gregory

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be your number two right end. And then dude,

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<v Speaker 1>just depends on what Taco and figure out I would

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<v Speaker 1>say Taco at left end. But figure out what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do with Tyrone. Is he in it? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I assume he's going to play in It's just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people talk about kicking him inside to tackle

0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.360
<v Speaker 1>like that's not a six month project to bulk yourself

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<v Speaker 1>up like that. You know, So he plays in, then

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you just put doorn Armstrong is not not available.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't kick him off the team, just not kicked

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<v Speaker 1>him off the team, just not in that group the

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<v Speaker 1>to tackle the two ends they just drafted. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens with them. But then on the inside,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got no particular order. But you've got Hill, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got Malite, Collins, You've got Woods, Antoine and um see

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<v Speaker 1>that's where that's where I think I think the Tyrone

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<v Speaker 1>needs the better start feeding him twinking right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like an end. I was trying to go

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<v Speaker 1>over the sponsor. I could come. He's at the facility

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. He doesn't look he looks like an end.

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<v Speaker 1>So he needs they need to. Yeah, it sucks for

0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.720
<v Speaker 1>important guy. He's always having to go back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's tough. All right, Well you said you're

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<v Speaker 1>not surprised, Okay, yeah. Do you like it? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>like that they use all these resources on this whole group? Well,

0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I mean, you know, there's plenty of

0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.480
<v Speaker 1>people who think that they reached and you know this

0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.079
<v Speaker 1>was you know, they got over excited about this player

0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and went up for it. Like basically, it's it's a need,

0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.240
<v Speaker 1>it's something they needed to do. It's a position they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to do something about. They don't have any defensive

0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.680
<v Speaker 1>tackles under contract, and I just keep going back to

0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Will mcclay's track record is worth trusting for me. You know, Yeah,

0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, Taco looks like a bad pick, but basically

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<v Speaker 1>every meaningful pick they've made since twenty fourteen when he

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<v Speaker 1>started running the draft board has been pretty good. Zach Martin,

0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:25.560
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Lawrence, Byron Jones, even even mid rounders like Anthony Hitchins,

0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Damian Wilson, Jeff Swaim, Zeke Elliott, Dak Prescott, MALIEK. Collins.

0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Like the track record is there, Anthony Brown, Anthony Brown,

0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Xavier Woods, you know, and it sucks that he, you know,

0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.080
<v Speaker 1>every everything about Randy Gregory turned out to be true,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's talented enough to justify that pick, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>troubled enough that maybe they shouldn't have done it. So

0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.880
<v Speaker 1>but by and large, the track record is there that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to kill them for thinking this guy's special,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, until we have a chance to see

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<v Speaker 1>him play. Why. I know, tomorrow on the Draft show

0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.240
<v Speaker 1>at eleven and Will McClay is supposed to them in

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<v Speaker 1>and talk with them, and not only are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this year's draft, but the twenty sixteen draft,

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you're talking about really evaluating what a draft is, like,

0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.640
<v Speaker 1>we can't evaluate this draft yet until they get on

0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the field takes about three years. Twenty sixteen. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good draft to evaluate because it's like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best drafts in modern history. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>not only did you get a franchise quarterback and running

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<v Speaker 1>back out of it, but I think everybody but Tapper

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<v Speaker 1>is on the team right now. Yep, that's amazing. It's unprecedented.

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<v Speaker 1>Like half, i mean, probably two, if not more of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys they just drafted on Saturday, you know, won't

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<v Speaker 1>be here by September, and all their guys, you know,

0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Darius Shackson did leave, went away for a while. When

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<v Speaker 1>he came back, Rico and Cavan and missing somebody in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle there, probably Mary Brown. Yeah, yeah, well, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of Rico, I mean, we'll keep going down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>But surprised that the tight end position wasn't addressed. I

0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.560
<v Speaker 1>mean that was one position that there was a good

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<v Speaker 1>amount of people talking about it and that the complice

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<v Speaker 1>should drafted tight end. I think I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>get one early, like in the second round, if somebody

0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.280
<v Speaker 1>falls to you and you take one there, that makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense at anything after that. I just don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be that much better than Schultz and Blake,

0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Darwin and Rico. I just feel like they've been here

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<v Speaker 1>enough time where it's gonna be hard for anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>to jump in and take that spot unless you have

0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.320
<v Speaker 1>just an ultra talented guy that was like, well, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be better than all of them. The difference

0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.000
<v Speaker 1>between like I'm sorry, I'm gonna throw shade, I don't care.

0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.000
<v Speaker 1>The difference between following like national coverage of this team

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<v Speaker 1>and following US is as soon as Jason Witten came

0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.920
<v Speaker 1>back in February, you just removed tight end from the

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<v Speaker 1>draft board, like unless something crazy happened, like Noah Fan

0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.200
<v Speaker 1>fell to fifty eight, which was never gonna happen. He

0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.960
<v Speaker 1>went twentieth. Overall, they weren't going to do that. They're like,

0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you know this band aid here, Witten's not coming off

0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the field that much. And even if he does, you

0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.520
<v Speaker 1>got these two promising young guys and Rico's still there. Maybe,

0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.800
<v Speaker 1>like they just I don't think they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Yeah, like a guy that you draft that late,

0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.320
<v Speaker 1>like where where are the snaps coming from? Where? Like

0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:03.840
<v Speaker 1>when is he going to be on the field? And

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<v Speaker 1>so I just laugh, like in April when national outlets

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<v Speaker 1>are like who they need to tight ends? Like, no,

0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.800
<v Speaker 1>they stopped talking about that three months ago. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>draft the tight end. And then looking at the free

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.800
<v Speaker 1>rookie free agents, they didn't bring one in, did they not? Where? Nope?

0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:22.080
<v Speaker 1>They did not. This it's you know, that's a little surprised,

0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and I thought they might do that, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>just Sternburger. Did they bring him Sternberger? I have the

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<v Speaker 1>list right now. I'm talking rookie in the rookie free

0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.399
<v Speaker 1>agents that they signed. No, no, but Fremberger was the

0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.439
<v Speaker 1>second round pick when yeah, I thought they brought him

0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.399
<v Speaker 1>in thirty visits. Oh yeah, oh oh no, we were talking. Sorry,

0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.960
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about after the draft. You're good. The

0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.600
<v Speaker 1>rookie free agents that they signed. They usually will get

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of those, um just just for depth purposes.

0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.520
<v Speaker 1>But that's I mean, they did sign a guy and

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<v Speaker 1>they it goes off, it goes contrary to everything. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like draft for three years from now, not for today.

0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.560
<v Speaker 1>But like again, witness ye he's gonna play a lot,

0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and then you got two guys you got to figure out.

0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's just assume and then you're getting rid of one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Right, Well, I would be kind of surprised

0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.320
<v Speaker 1>if Frico's still here in September, but I think we

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<v Speaker 1>said that a year ago and two years ago too,

0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.560
<v Speaker 1>so this is probably it for him. But but what

0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.200
<v Speaker 1>if the light bulb comes on. Let's just assume Witton

0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.280
<v Speaker 1>retires after the twenty nineteen season, then you still have

0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.600
<v Speaker 1>then you you know, make the press Conference's good. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we won't plan our biggest staff outing of the year.

0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:34.320
<v Speaker 1>For that weekend this time, Um, let's just assume he retires.

0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Then you've got a three year player in Jarwin and Schultz,

0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.760
<v Speaker 1>So you've got two guys who can conceivably handle the

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<v Speaker 1>job at least adequately. And then you have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to draft a guy high who can come in and

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<v Speaker 1>get snaps immediately rather than a guy who's just going

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.439
<v Speaker 1>to waste away and maybe maybe even be like a

0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.880
<v Speaker 1>game day inactive, Like, Yeah, you're supposed to make these

0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.920
<v Speaker 1>decisions with the future in mind, but I just don't

0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.760
<v Speaker 1>think it made sense for nineteen with Whitten being here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and take a quick break. When we

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to discuss third round pick guard Connor McGovern

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite pick your favorite one wide now because kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what we just were saying about tight end, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't need one, they didn't need one, but they

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<v Speaker 1>would have taken one if he was just so good

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<v Speaker 1>that he was right there for him. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I loved about that pick is I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>the most discipline thing that they that they've done. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they didn't because it sounds like they had a

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<v Speaker 1>higher grade than they did for Tristan Hill. So they

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<v Speaker 1>took Tristan Hill because it was a high pick and

0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.879
<v Speaker 1>a need. They're not gonna mess with guard right here

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:21.760
<v Speaker 1>in the second round just doesn't make sense. But man,

0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.040
<v Speaker 1>if he's still here in the third round, go for it. No,

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 1>we can figure something out here. And maybe this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those twenty twenty picks, but I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was an outstanding pick to get him and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then to show best player available really does matter. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not in your first pick, but it matters. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't matter with your first pick. It just depends.

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Like that's it was fascinating their first two picks, where

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 1>like this blend between the two is like, well, it's

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:49.200
<v Speaker 1>really best player available with a need, but it gets

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:51.399
<v Speaker 1>to a point. It always gets to a point where

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.719
<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, I mean, what are we supposed to do?

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 1>This guy is graded twice as high as anybody left

0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 1>on our board. Yeah, which so yeah, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they reached a little bit in with their first

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>pick and then they really went true BPA right after that.

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>So so then what happens now? How does this guy

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.159
<v Speaker 1>play into the whole old line? What happens here and

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:16.439
<v Speaker 1>moving around? There's so many scenarios that you could see

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 1>play out here that we won't know until they start

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 1>playing football. I mean, the one guy in this whole

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:26.120
<v Speaker 1>group that I think will definitely one hundred thousand percent

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>be on the team next year or playing in his

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 1>position as Zach Martin, yes, and everything else is a

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit out there. Question now, I think you tried

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.679
<v Speaker 1>to retire him last year or two years ago, but no,

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the thing is is that we'll see what

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>he does this year. But his contract is so good

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 1>and so team friendly that there's there's no reason to

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>really do anything with him. He's not at that point

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.159
<v Speaker 1>where you're like, well, maybe we should move on. I

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.439
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. He was awesome last year for the

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>most part. I mean, you know, he battled injuries again

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and he got called for whole yeah, a few, way

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.640
<v Speaker 1>more often than you're used to. But you go back

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and watch those reps and you're like, I don't really

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 1>see what he's doing wrong. Um No, I think I

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:13.640
<v Speaker 1>think Tyrn and Zacher here, there's but there's so many

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>there's so many variable you know, we feel really good

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.360
<v Speaker 1>about Travis Frederick's availability, but you'd like to see him

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 1>play football first, right, Well, McGovern played center at Penn State.

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>He can do that. He could be your left guard

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>based on the way people are just praising the hell

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>out of him, Like I'm almost tempted to think maybe

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:34.479
<v Speaker 1>he could compete with Connor Williams. Right now, having said that,

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams looked like, I mean, he got in the

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>gym this offseason big time. So but then, well, they

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about moving him to which that raises the question of,

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, Lyle Collins more than likely isn't here next year.

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It's I mean, he's just if he's remotely good this season,

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>he's going to get paid far too much to stay.

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>So you could move Connor Williams. Do you move Connor

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>We talked about this this morning in the office, kind

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of shooting the breeze, like do you just move him

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:03.959
<v Speaker 1>now so he gets acclimated and he could be your

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>swing tackle, or do you want you know, the proverbial

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 1>best five that they love the spout and keep him

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>there this year and McGovern, you know, McGovern's presence could

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>be trouble for Joe Looney because they do they have

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the same skill set. They play all three interior spots,

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:22.440
<v Speaker 1>which nothing summarizes the nature of the NFL more than

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and you did a great job, Joe, thank you for

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>saving our season and starting sixteen games. But now we

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>just drafted this kid that might take your job. And

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.360
<v Speaker 1>all that being said, if if, if, if it's all

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>fair and everyone's just you know, competing at the same level,

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>who's to say that that with a full off season

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and Xavier Suafilo can't go in another one be better

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:45.439
<v Speaker 1>than Connor McGovern, O'Connor Williams, you know at the guard spot.

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>So if it's anything similar to last year with injuries,

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone had something pop up during the season,

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>like yes, they they beat that down during the post

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>draft press conferences, like we learned last year like as

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.479
<v Speaker 1>good as you might think a group can be, just

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>keep adding talent to it because you never know what's

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.160
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. And that's true, I believe that. But

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>like you just said about Connor Williams, he's you know,

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>obviously been in the gym this year to play guard.

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 1>He probably starting to look like a guard now that

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>he was going to be moving out to tackle. Then

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.199
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a different His shoulders are awfully broad, like

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.199
<v Speaker 1>he just I don't know which I'm not an expert

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>on that, but he looks like a guard right now.

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what I think. But you know, Jeff Kavanaugh was

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 1>with us on Saturday. He was like, why can't why

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>can't lie all be your left guard in twenty nineteen

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and move Connor Williams to write tackle now? Yeah, yeah,

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't see that happen. You know,

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe McGovern is is your center of the future. Maybe

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.239
<v Speaker 1>that's it too. Maybe maybe it's like, let's see how

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 1>this goes with Travis, but we just we never know,

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>and maybe he's he's gonna be what it like, We

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>never know. So what if the answer to your question

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>is that Travis goes back to making Pro Bowls. Okay,

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>well then, now, yeah, which position was his main position? Question?

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it was guard guard, but he played center

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty extensively too. I mean I know that I just

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>talked out of both sides of my mouth, but he

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>did both. So I had lunched with a scalt the

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 1>other day, was just talking and he said, this doesn't

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>leave the table, but I'm gonna say it, don't take

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.679
<v Speaker 1>it from the table. He just loved the pick. He

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.959
<v Speaker 1>just said that was my favorite pick too. He was like,

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>he's just he's so smart. That's why that's your favor. No, no,

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I said at that night, why, like, that's not even juicy.

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh you drafted a guy at ninety that you could

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that you graded at thirty five and you love the pick.

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Oh, don't tell anybody that that's just close

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.360
<v Speaker 1>top secret information. That being said, you know exactly who

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I was talking with. I probably if somebody don't leave

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the table here, you know, Yes, UM wasn't anything crazy,

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>But but I know I like that pick then, because

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I do like the best available. I like the saying

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what we're gonna we're gonna do that first

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>second pick. I like best available. Need after that go

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.199
<v Speaker 1>with its available player. Anytime you get an insane value,

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>it's fun. Yeah. I think McGovern's probably the favorite of

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people on that side of the building

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>because he could have been a you know, people saying

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 1>top fifty, top sixty pick, and you got him at ninety.

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 1>See what I love the most about it is not

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>taking him at ninety. It's not taking him at fifty eight.

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>So it's talk about being hypocritical here. It's like, he's

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the highest rated player you have, because I think that

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>best available players sometimes can be bs. I really do.

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:30.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, if you had a quarterback rated, how

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you're not taking him? So we know it's not always

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>best available. You do need to go with needs. So

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 1>they showed that in the second round, but then they

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>wiped it off the table in the third round. They said,

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>all right now, now that's what I liked about it

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.239
<v Speaker 1>is is that it kind of shows that it's not

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>always best available player, but it can be when the

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>time is right. It's kind of like Gregory and back

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>in twenty fifteen, I'm not taking this guy with all

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the problems at twenty eight, no way. What he's there

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>at sixty, get him on the phone. It called Charles

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Haley and can get him on the phone and let's

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>make this happens. That would have been a terrible twenty

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>eight right twenty seven seven, But yeah, oh yeah, yeah

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>for sure. But then get Byron and he's been solid

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and so he's been good and he hasn't been solid.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>It's very hard to predict what Connor McGovern's presence here

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>means right now, but I think their offensive line will

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>be better for it. Now, here's another pick that the

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys seem very excited about, and Stephen Jones went as

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>far as saying he has a little bit of Alvin

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Kamara in him. Running back to the expectations on the

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>guy running back, Tony Polart Pollard. It has an accent.

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>It comes out of my mouth, so it's it's fair

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of like Scottie Pip. Yeah, fourth round. Thoughts about

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>this guy and what he can bring. Obviously, we talked

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>about the running back position and uh Zekiel Eliott needing

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a backup guy that can come in and help him

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>lift up, get some weight off his shoulder. This is

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>this is the part of the year where you really

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>have to guard against, which you know, Chris Hall came on.

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>He Chris Hall, assistant director of College Scouting. He was

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.959
<v Speaker 1>on hanging with the boys yesterday, and uh, you know

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a various stew point. He's like, obviously we love

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>all these guys. We just drafted him all like, so

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you got to guard against that. But if Tony Pollard

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>could be half of what they're saying he could be,

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>then you should be excited as hell, because you know,

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Jones likned him to Kamara. He's you know, he's

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>a he's a four three seven athlete. He can I

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>mean I saw the play you just diagrammed, Brian, thanks

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>for joining us. Dudes got out dressed in everybody Seriously,

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. Dudes got burst for days. Yeah. Uh,

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. He motions around in the Memphis offense. He

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>plays in the slot. They move him all around. They

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>all that exciting stuff that NFL offenses are doing. Now

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>he can do it. Now do you buy that the

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys can make it work? See that's where that's where

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>And I just I kind of put it. I just

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>shot something for the Blitz and that I said that,

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>And you're absolutely right about this. Don't tell me how

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>great this guy is. I could see it with my

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>own eyes. You know, don't keep telling me when we

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>get to Oxen Hole, we're gonna do things. We're gonna

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>do things, And then all of a sudden we come

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>out of Oxnard and it's like, do you feel any

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>better about Tony Pollard here? And all of a sudden

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>he's a week two inactive, a week three inactive, a

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>week six inactive. Then then now it's gonna be like, Okay,

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>we don't need to hear it. We need to see

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>if this is on Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore needs to

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>come up with a clear plan of either hand him

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to football or like the play I just broke down,

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>throw it to him the flat and just let him

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>explode past people. The way that I don't think he's

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be inactive is because it sounds like he'll

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>do so many things on special teams to first of all,

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>first of all, yeah, you were there, but to the

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>point you guys are making, yeah you can. Jamay'z ali

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>wality was also there, and we don't see him on

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>offense either, so you can get lost on special teams.

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna be worth of forty because you don't

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>need a fourth round pick to do that. Stephen Jones

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>like it was amazing, Like I would like, you know,

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, you have those moments where you're recording an

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>interview and he's like, You're like, he knows, he knows

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>he's on the record, right, Like which he I mean,

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>he's basically he's like, look, no disrespect to Mike Webber,

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>but like Mike Webber is the type of when he's

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the seventh round pick, so he's like, no disrespect to him,

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>but he's basically Zeke a couple of clicks down, so

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>he's he's just you your basic running back with a

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>lesser skill set. Obviously he's a seventh round pick. And

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>he's like, you know, Pollard can do this, this and this.

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>He can return kicks, he can return ponts, he can catch,

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>he can do all this. So like Zeke and Pollard

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>are your two backs. And then we think jama'ze Olawalley

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>can can run if we need him too, So like

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>those are your three, and you know, if Zeke gets hurt,

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>then maybe Mike Webber can come in and help carry

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the load. But like until then, we'll just keep him

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>off to the side. I was like, thanks, for thanks

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>for giving us the September strategy. In April, Steven just

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>cringes with, here's any kind of comparison. Yeah, did you

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>guys get the feeling that they really really liked Mike Webber?

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Did that mean that the grade wise where he sat

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>on their board and all that, and maybe it was

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was one of those things where it was

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>just too valuable there. We always talked on the Draft

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>show about traits and about how can you pass up guys.

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>It's the same way with McGovern. You know, you look

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>at McGovern and you say, oh, can I have his

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.479
<v Speaker 1>second round grade on this guy? And hell, let's make

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>it work, you know, whatever we have to do, let's

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>make it work here. Maybe Brian knows that answer better

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>than we were talking about McGovern. Where did he play

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>more a guard? Center guard? Again, he's one of those

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>guys that the numbers of starts at each position is fine.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean that that's where they got a really you know,

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>we talked about Connor Williams lack in power last year.

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.239
<v Speaker 1>If this guy's got power and so there's no if

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>he has to sit and wait, it's just gonna be

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>about learning and learning pro techniques. And stuff like that.

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, Liken Connor Williams had to throw him into

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the fire. This guy don't think they have to throw

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>into the fire yet. It's going to get to learn

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>from Zach Martin and those guys. Yeah, he'll be fine.

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Travis Frederick being back, that'll help all those guys for sure,

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>these guys being Sorry, woman, go ahead, I was gonna

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>say that, with these guys being drafted, are you still

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>expecting them to even use Jordan Lewis as part of

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the offense and adding him at all? Due respect, guy,

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I love Jordan. You always say at lunch about Jordan Lewis.

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>You have a really good line about Jordan Lewis. You

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>put me on the spike the year the year he is.

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a damn good He's a damn good

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>football player who got drafted a year before they changed

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>their scheme, Like he just got screwed over by the circumstances. Yeah,

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>they hired a coach who doesn't think his skill set

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>fits with what they want to do a year after

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 1>they drift. Even though those eight plays against New Orleans

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>were glorious, he was awesome. Yeah, I think he's a

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>hell of a player. I mean, I'm not you know,

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>he's not. He might not be Patrick Peterson, but he's

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>an eight plays. It's like eight plays and the last one,

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the last one was the big the big plays. You

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>think aout the pick. Yeah, no, but I think that

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>What I was gonna say is it's interesting, like we

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>get we get a little bit of the picture. You know,

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like it's like a blurry picture and

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>then it comes into focus. After the draft, we were

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>just hammering that they want to complete back. They want

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 1>to complete back to fill Zeke's role if he goes out, Well,

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.919
<v Speaker 1>they got that guy, but they're also saying, we need

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody who can compliment him. And I had a conversation

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>with somebody a week before the draft, and I felt

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 1>stupid for not thinking about it. He's like, well, if

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy we draft is just Zeke Light, then what

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>purpose is he really serving? Unless Zeke gets hurt, like

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, a Travion Williams for instance. I got you know,

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I loved him. I mocked him here at ninety A

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of Cowboys fans wanted him six. Yeah, he's a

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>he's not playing special teams for you, He's not. He's

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>not playing flyer on punt team, He's not returning kicks

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>like that's not his skill set. He's supposed to be

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>a starting running back. So I think they wanted to

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>compliment just as much as they wanted a replacement, and

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>they wound up getting both. Which right now, I don't

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 1>have confidence that they'll use Tony Pollard the way they

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>say they will because I need to see it. I

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>wrote ten stories about all the ways they could use

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Tavon Austin last year and it didn't materialize. But if

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.439
<v Speaker 1>they can find a way to use him, it could

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>be really exciting. Amber. Can I ask a question of

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the group, and you please answer this as well? Going

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 1>into the draft, which group do you feel now better

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>about the defensive tackle group or not me going to

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the draft, but going into free agency and now the draft,

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>which group do you feel better about the upgrades of

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the backups? Defensive tackle or running back? Because both those

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 1>were positions. Both those positions were like defensive tackle because

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I trust Rod Marinell to get ross and read and

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>not only I just I trust Rod Marinelli to get

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>the most out of those guys more than I trust

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the offensive staff to use Tony Pollard like, show me,

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 1>show me something. I think so defensive tackle, just because

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>if if I have to have an injury there in

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the middle, I lie some of the backups that can

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the options you have there, I don't like the options.

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>If Zeke goes down, I don't like him yet. I mean,

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, hey, Mike, Mike Webber might be a

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>steal he I mean, he's coming from a badass program.

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, bo Scarborough was exciting when they drafted

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>him in the same range last year. Last long the

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>biggest Darius Jackson fan in the world. He's got six,

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 1>He's got six NFL career carry box years. Kidgo, where

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>did holy Field go? Did he not get that? That

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>was my pet cat? Can I say he wound up

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>with a with Carolina? Good for him. You run a

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>five second forty at running back at a lot of people,

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna they at least have a backup. You're

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>going on up, Darius Jackson was drafting, I'm tired running back,

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Mike Webber, Right, that's I just I want to keep

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>it in perspective. But easier to throw in one of

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>those backup running backs and have it work, right, Dave guys, right,

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:57.399
<v Speaker 1>you would hope. So is that just spent another top

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>one hundred pick on an offensive lineman, I would hope.

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, when you look at DeMarco Murray set

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 1>records here and then he left, and then McFadden came

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in and had one of his better years, and then

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>he left, and then and then Zeke's led the league

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>two out of the three years that he's been. You

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>think if Zeke if which knock on, all of the

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>would but if Zeke went down for a significant period

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>of time, you think they would roll with what they

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>have here. I think they would, you think, so, I

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 1>don't think i'd buy that. Well, I think they would

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>because they have They obviously have enough faith draft faith

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 1>in the two guys they selected. I mean, if I

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>explaining from what I know where those guys sat on

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>their board, they have faith that those guys can come

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>in and plug and play if they had to. I

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>really believe them. I don't know if I was supposed

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>to say this, must say it anyways, I'm really glad

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>they draft the two backs because if they didn't, I

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 1>think Alfred Morris was coming back. And I don't really

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>want that. I mean, Jerry said it. He was like no,

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>but he just said, you know, we'll get a free

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 1>agent running back and there's only so many available still. Yeah,

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 1>So the thing about it is, Dave, you guy, you

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>went back and said this even during the draft show,

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that the prospects of the free agent running back was

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>not great. No, it's not, so why not go ahead

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and said, you know what, I'm just saying, Darius Jackson

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 1>was drafted higher than Mike Webber was. Both Scarborough came

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>from Alabama. He came from a big program too, Like

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>he's okay, Now, hold on, you guys are just confusing me.

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Why because all this talk about it's so easy to

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>find the running back and there's they're out there in

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the draft and it's easy to bring them in. That's

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.879
<v Speaker 1>an easy position to replace. So what's up now? All

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you is that the narrative changes from April

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 1>to September. It does every single year. I don't I mean,

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>we got to see this. Maybe Mike Webber might blow

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>us all away. I don't know the argument here, Well,

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know the argument. I don't know. No, No,

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 1>we're good. I think the thing at the point is,

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>though something were to happen, to Zeke. I think they

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>would be okay, I think they would now we would

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:03.320
<v Speaker 1>question every single step. You already questioned the fact that

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to use uh Tony Pollard, right, I

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>just want to see it to believe it. I tell

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>because history tells you they're not. I've done the blind

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>trusting thing. I'm done with that. Like I feel like

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 1>an idiot when myself about Dan's worried this year he's

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna fall for something, to training camp, all we all fall.

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of it. Tired training camp. Oh my god,

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember his name right now. Wide receiver Tavon Austin, Yeah,

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:34.399
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I mean all this great time back, all

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 1>this talk about him and how they can use him

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>so many ways, and you never really know if people

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>take it out on us when we spend all spring

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>hyping guys up and it doesn't pan out. I'm done

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 1>with that. You know what's really happening is is that

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>nobody really thinks right now that they have a new

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:52.919
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator because they don't ye now because if you did,

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>which there's less trust and killing more than they are

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 1>on these backs. I was gonna I was gonna bring that. Well,

0:40:57.840 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, because there's a new coordinator, we don't

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>know how he's gonna do things. But it's like everyone

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>still feels like he's not a new coordinator. I just

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>this is totally unfair. I don't care. I think I trustless.

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I trust Kellen Moore more than I trust

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett's willingness to let him loose, you know what

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean? If that makes sense, like it's felt nobody

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>went with you there? Yeah, no, no, no there. I

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>don't care. No, I don't trust Jason Garrett to let

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 1>a first year offensive coordinator get crazy. Not really. I mean,

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and he better be better, figure out something or he's

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna be But he can't. He can't just say just

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 1>like you got it, he's gonna be like, all right,

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>let's see how you got it. If not all right,

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>let me see show up that defense. You You feel

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>better now about Kellen Moore or Scotland a hand last

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 1>year at this time? Uh? Probably more? Is it just

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>because you got so tired of Scotland just because it's new? Yeah,

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:57.959
<v Speaker 1>how about you. We gotta get we gotta get to break.

0:41:58.040 --> 0:41:59.840
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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have two guys left, and hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the undrafted free agents and hit that a

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback Michael Jackson. More than two, don't we left? Well,

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>we covered whatever I came in late, so you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are hitting all the picks. So we have the we

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<v Speaker 1>have the secondary Mike Jackson calling him Mike. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna call him Mike. I just yeah, that's if that's

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<v Speaker 1>his name. That I just really was so uncomfortable when

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, we've got the secret audio of Michael Jackson,

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't like this. Yeah, like it doesn't.

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it either. He can be changing people's

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>name either, I know, but I think he says he

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>goes by Mike. I think he goes by Mike. All right, anyway,

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you just want to be starting something right now, don't you. Sorry,

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 1>fair boy. I don't even know if we all got

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>it in the room, but that was one of the

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:07.760
<v Speaker 1>better ones. Good job, thank you. It was. This is another.

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 1>This is another, This is it's interesting and again, you know,

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 1>we talked about it on the Draft show. Like so

0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:16.399
<v Speaker 1>many of these decisions, so many of these decisions look

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>like they're geared toward twenty twenty because you don't need

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:23.359
<v Speaker 1>this guy right now, which you might. Steven Jones kind

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>of slipped that in there on Saturday Night. He's like, well,

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>we think Byron will be ready for the season, but

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>if he's not, he's like whoa, hey, which was because

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 1>usually they're pretty confident or like, you know they'll be

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>they'll I've pretty confident I'll be ready. Byron's on crutches

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 1>right now, so walked by the lunch him yesterday's crutches. Yeah. Um.

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, like it's hard to imagine

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>they are gonna want to get rid of him because

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>he's this Chris He's this Chris Rashard archetype again, Like

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>he's everything Jordan Lewis isn't. He's like three inches taller

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>than Jordan Lewis. He's long and rangy and Chris Rochard.

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I just have to imagine he's like, just give me

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy that I can sort of build, you know,

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>build the future of this secondary around, or try to

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 1>be traded in that Saturday that's I don't I don't

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 1>disagree with Saturday's sixth round pick. I agree with you

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and I hate it. Like he's a good player, he's

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the best personalities on the team. Arms he

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>does have about that tentles. Yeah. If this if this

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:23.719
<v Speaker 1>guy is worth glad, you get that right. If this

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>guy can play worth a spit, then I agree with

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>you because he just he fits it. You know, were

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you were you a Lomba? Yeah, no, no, that's my guy. Yeah.

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.839
<v Speaker 1>See this is this is one of the classic Brian

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>your face up, Yeah, this is one of This is

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the classic Brian brought us over cell about a guy

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:45.919
<v Speaker 1>you're just You're just He's just here all the time.

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>That's nobody's in this buildings here all the time too,

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and no one's but we think team spirit. He's the

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>biggest cheerleader. Well, I hope you hope you think you

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 1>just like a lumba because the college he went to

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 1>was like brought us University, No, Alverson brought us. Now

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that is a real place. The I think a sweatshirt.

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you're listening to Alverson broad Us,

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I'd love a sweatshirt from there. Uh, the the the

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the thing with a Lumbo. Differently, it's one D. It's

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 1>like Snoop Dogg's name. I am Amber takes me up.

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys Cowboy to the Cowboys drop stay on target, hop

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>scotch Cowboys, thank you. Why do you like this guy?

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you why I like this guy because I

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>felt like though during when you get kids that play

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 1>in the practice squad that all year long, they're there

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 1>their work and their practice, and then you talk to

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.319
<v Speaker 1>people about them and they're going, you know what, Chris

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Rashard throws his kid out there when they go when

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 1>they go live work with the you know when they're

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>doing practice team stuff, practice squad stuff, instead of they

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:55.439
<v Speaker 1>throw him into real real work, Like he gets worked

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.840
<v Speaker 1>with the first defense. Like they'll have eight plays and

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>they'll throw them out there for a couple of plays.

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 1>So they just kept every week they gave him a

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 1>little more the game, a little more. Him and the

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>kid Ward they got traded to Kansas City right before

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the Houston game. Those were two kids that they were

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 1>really holding on. I mean they were really like, hey,

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 1>we got two good young corners that we're going to

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 1>develop here. And you know just happened. Kansas City did

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 1>a great job of picking what they get. Oh, they

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 1>got a guard. The guard they got hurt in the Yeah,

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.359
<v Speaker 1>you knee hurt his knee. So but yeah, he's gone.

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna cut him. I think they let him go.

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 1>He's gone. He's gone. So he's still not just eating

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:35.839
<v Speaker 1>in the No, he's not. He's not eating the training

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>table right now. But but that's why I think with

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the lumba, I just keep an eye on him and

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Quero are two guys on defense. But that goes

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that goes to my point, which is you gotta think

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:50.399
<v Speaker 1>they have a similar plan in mind for Jackson, yes,

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 1>which that leads me to believe that they're gonna try

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to find a way to get him on this team,

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 1>which and there are ways to do that. You know,

0:48:57.719 --> 0:48:59.839
<v Speaker 1>they only carried four cornerbacks at the start of last

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and they've carried as many as six in the past,

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>So I always thought it was six and four, but

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you said last year it was they've done They've been

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.359
<v Speaker 1>five four. I've done five and four. Yeah, they went

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 1>light last year. They've done five and five, They've done

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 1>six and four. So there's ways to manipulate it. But

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 1>like his build and the uncertainty at cornerback in the future,

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 1>just you know, I think they're gonna try to How

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>about the really hard to make sure he's here. The

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>West three kid too from Kentucky, Chris Westy. Yeah, they

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 1>again a note's a free agent guy. But here's another

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>long This guy's six to four and a half like this.

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>This position group is about to be the dulest on

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the team. And I feel bad for my guy Jordan,

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Like it's hard. He's gonna look way out of place.

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to figure out a place for him. Yeah,

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 1>so sad, which you know, let's not bury anybody in

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>any Yeah. Yeah, all right, Well let's move on to

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the safety position and position we've been talking since forever,

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.479
<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys decided to address it. In the sixth

0:49:55.600 --> 0:50:00.040
<v Speaker 1>round they drafted Donovan Wilson. Thoughts on this guy and

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:02.879
<v Speaker 1>what he can do or once he comes in here.

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Cavon Frasier, that's what he looks like to me. It

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>looks like a Cavon Frasier's a big guy. Yeah. I

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>broke down to play the other today again for the

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>show that where you know, he's playing like in the

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.240
<v Speaker 1>middle of the field and then they run around inside

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 1>where he reads the slam all the way and then

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:22.760
<v Speaker 1>he drives in really off hand play and I'm thinking, gosh,

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 1>if he could just come in here and do that,

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 1>that would be didn't you say, like coverage is really

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 1>not his strong suit. No, and that's something new. But

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:30.920
<v Speaker 1>but when you talk about the scouts, he's used the

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>word clicking clothes is when they backpedal and they hit

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and then they go. He's got that ability though, to

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 1>come forward. They when you talk to the scouts here

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 1>about him, they are like they just think they stole one.

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:44.839
<v Speaker 1>They I mean, they are like, you know, Chris Hall

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 1>was Chris Hall said in this seat and said like

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that's his pet. Cat's class. Will McClay, Yeah, you know

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 1>he does the one time a year he's willing to

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>do the media rounds is right after the draft. He's

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.080
<v Speaker 1>coming on our show tomorrow. Yeah, he went. He did

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>an interview with Calvin Watkins of the Athletic and was

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:04.399
<v Speaker 1>like this guy has Cam Chancellor like traits. Yeah, which

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:08.399
<v Speaker 1>like and even Chancel both of the Cowboys get ready

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:13.319
<v Speaker 1>that I taught. I saw Will in the training table. Yes.

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was like, do I have this right?

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to say this if that's not

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 1>what you meant. And he's like, no, that's what I meant.

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Like He's like, I'm not saying the kid is Chancellor.

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying he's got those type of traits. And I

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, but you realize that you run the draft

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:29.359
<v Speaker 1>board and when you say that, it carries a lot

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of weight. And he's like, well, sue me basically like

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that's just how I feel like I don't know. I

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, man, like just just telling you, like,

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you're comparing this kid to Cam Chancellor. Um. So no,

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:42.800
<v Speaker 1>they I heard. I have it on good authority. Christopher

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Shard was handing out bear hugs in the war room

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>when this kid got picked. So again, this is the

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 1>time of year for crazy optimism. I'm not telling you

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 1>that you should believe the things that are coming out

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 1>of these people's mouths, really, but that's how they feel. See,

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be a difficult year for this young man.

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Tell you why, because you got veteran corner. It's gonna

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>be veteran safeties. How much love is he really gonna get?

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean people really trying to help him develop him. Yeah,

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna come from Chris Richard and those guys like that.

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 1>That's where the development will come from in the teaching.

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 1>But that poor kid's gonna feel alone at times. I

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>bet probably because you got some you know, you got

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, Cabon Phrasian safeties that are on one year

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 1>deal exactly, they're not interested in not trying to help.

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.120
<v Speaker 1>They're not trying to help this kid, Wilson get any better.

0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I will say this though it's I know it sounds selfish,

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 1>but I mean that's human nature. Yeah, it is fascinating.

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Though Xavier Woods is the only safety on this team

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:39.800
<v Speaker 1>with multiple years on his deal. Yeah, and all of

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 1>the other you know, Cavan's on a rookie deal, Jeff

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Heath is his contract is you know, not a huge amount,

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and George Iloka is on a one year like vet minimum.

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 1>So if this kid is half as good as they're

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:55.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about him, being like, you can make some decisions

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 1>there without hurting him, you know, I can't. But I

0:52:57.640 --> 0:52:59.320
<v Speaker 1>have a hard time believing Jeff Heath won't be on

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 1>this team. But if he outplays Cavon or you know,

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I always think about Will Allen, you know, yeah, he

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 1>was so you know, everybody thought he would be a

0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 1>starter when he came in, and he was gone within

0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 1>three weeks of the season starting. If this kid is

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.400
<v Speaker 1>not if he's remotely as good as like an Eyeloca

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 1>or a Cavon, he goes back to your trust. Yeah,

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:20.880
<v Speaker 1>he goes back to the trust. Though how long did

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it take? It took an injury for late Vanderish to play. Yeah,

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 1>oh no, this coaching staff is always going to go

0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:31.360
<v Speaker 1>with the veteran that they signed Deante Thompson for whatever

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the reason. Yeah, like they signed him the first day

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of training a free agency and then the guy that

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I think keeps getting forgotten here is CJ. Goodwin. Because

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 1>it's true because he is a special teams guy that

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:45.399
<v Speaker 1>they just love. Now see a corner. He's really he's

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>more of a corner than he is a safety. He's

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 1>just a special teams guy. But I mean a hard

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 1>time thinking he's not going to have a spot. This

0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 1>is I feel like we say this every year, but

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna They're gonna have a hard time cutting

0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 1>this thing down. Yeah, well, we're running out of time.

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:02.879
<v Speaker 1>We don't have to go under the whole undrafted free

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 1>agent list, but we know that on drafted. No love

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 1>for Joe Jackson. We'll talk about Michael, but no Joe,

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:10.839
<v Speaker 1>we did talk about him we didn't talk about Joe.

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 1>It's okay. Dad never gets talked about always. I put

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 1>him when when we started talking about all the defensive

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's true, like going to death. But rod Manelli

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:21.880
<v Speaker 1>was surprised he was still there. I mean that they

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 1>had a ray had a high grade on him. Rod

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Marinelli was very surprised he was still there on the

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.840
<v Speaker 1>board when they picked Jelks and correct me if I'm wrong. Jelks.

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I love Jels Jelks and Jackson both they're both enormous,

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Like they don't need to put on weight. They're like

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:40.479
<v Speaker 1>six five two forty two fifty Joe Jackson's two seventy five. Yeah. Yeah,

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's gonna be hard to crack that

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:45.920
<v Speaker 1>depth chart just with the proven veterans that they have there.

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Those second half of those preseason games will be interesting. Yeah,

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, hopefully get some quarterbacks on the ground and

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:53.360
<v Speaker 1>those things. Yeah, that I was gonna talk about the

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 1>undrafted guy. Real quick had a story, but it goes

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:58.279
<v Speaker 1>about the undrafted. So what are you gonna say undrafted? Well,

0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:00.360
<v Speaker 1>we don't have to go through the whole, but we

0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 1>know that undrafted guys turn some of them turn out

0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to pretty good guys, the good players, and and pretty

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 1>big names later down the road. So I wanted to

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 1>go around the room and just give me a name

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:16.239
<v Speaker 1>of a guy that other people should be watching out

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:19.120
<v Speaker 1>for as far as the undrafted guys. You want it.

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Who wants to start, I'll start? This goes with the

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<v Speaker 1>story I was saying. I'll just go with the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably the highest rated one, Hyatt Utch Mitch Hyatt

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<v Speaker 1>from Clemson, Clemson unanimous All American. I mean, for a

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<v Speaker 1>great scene happened. He's got Zach Martin's resume. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have Zach Martin's talent, obviously, because he's not a first

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<v Speaker 1>round pick, didn't even get picked, but he's the same

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:43.759
<v Speaker 1>caliber resume as Zach Martin in college. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys are gonna say another tackle, but but

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Colombo said to me yesterday that he we're probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to block some people in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of preseason games, which has not always

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<v Speaker 1>been the case with a guy like Night from Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>I believealler do they convince these guys to come here?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know there's no room on the depth recruit these

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<v Speaker 1>guys do a great Lumbo, must be amazing on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget Larry Allen Junior. Well, yeah, that makes a

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<v Speaker 1>little more sense. It's like, hey, you know, come on

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<v Speaker 1>and at the same time you get a call from

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys and you're no. But that's the beauty. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucks when these guys don't get drafted, but the

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<v Speaker 1>beauty of being an undrafted free agent is that you

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<v Speaker 1>get to pick your force. Well, you remember a lot

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of agents they did that survey last year. The agents

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<v Speaker 1>said unanimously the team they want to put their players

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<v Speaker 1>worth as the Cowboys. Maybe that's something to do with that,

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at the depth chart, and so I'm with,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I make this team? No if I mean,

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:38.279
<v Speaker 1>and obviously players have more confidence in themselves than that,

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<v Speaker 1>but all right, give me a guy they I started

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:43.360
<v Speaker 1>screaming for them to draft as soon as Tony Pollard

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<v Speaker 1>was the pick at one twenty eight. I started saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now they're gonna go get Daniel Wise out of Kansas

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:51.280
<v Speaker 1>because that they had him graded in the fourth round. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>guy that can play three technique defensive tackle. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>relation his dad. I believe his close friends with will

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:03.320
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of sense. And so this is a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle who has a fourth round grade coming into

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<v Speaker 1>a position where there's not a lot of long term stability,

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, you know, Carrie Hiders here,

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Christian Covington's here, Malie Collins as a year and the

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:18.920
<v Speaker 1>old but a whole bunch of guys. Yeah, but these

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<v Speaker 1>aren't guys that you have to keep. So if this

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<v Speaker 1>kid's as good as they think he is, wouldn't shock

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<v Speaker 1>me at all for him to fight his way onto

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<v Speaker 1>the roster. The two wide receivers, these kids, the Guidon

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<v Speaker 1>gen and Um John V. Johnson, john By Johnson. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on both those kids, because to me, Guidon

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid that played at Notre Dame and then

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<v Speaker 1>had to go to North Texas for some stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what the film on both those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Toledo had a great receiving corps. Believe it or not,

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you think of Toledo Max School, but they had receivers

0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 1>you legitately had to go and watch and they all

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<v Speaker 1>were very, very talented. For them to get Johnson out

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<v Speaker 1>of that out of you as an undrafted free agent,

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<v Speaker 1>I think was a huge kid. So keeping on the

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<v Speaker 1>two safety or the two wide receivers Johnson and Guyon,

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>those guys are gonna think turn some heads and camp after.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see a six four corner and we

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<v Speaker 1>just talked wester Western. I'd like to see him out

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<v Speaker 1>there and see what his deal is. Well. Seven, from

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<v Speaker 1>understand seven, all those signed, those newly signed guys were

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<v Speaker 1>on their draft board with draftable grades. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me you I mean not many draft picks that

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<v Speaker 1>they have eight. So you added fifteen players to your

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<v Speaker 1>roster that had draftable grades. Now, either they're really right

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 1>or they're gonna be really wrong, which we'll see. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a personal guy and you add fifteen players

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<v Speaker 1>off your draft board to your roster, you're doing some good.

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<v Speaker 1>That was, yeah, pretty good. I saw a scout on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night and I wanted to talk to him about

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the picks and he was like, listen, this undrafted free

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:53.080
<v Speaker 1>agent classes insane. I was like, okay, yeah. Now, In

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a final note, they did sign four four linebikers. Yeah yeah,

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:01.120
<v Speaker 1>it's four of them, and I know that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going into the draft. A lot of people were questioning,

0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, with Sean Lee's health and all of that.

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Damien Wilson going and what was going to happen at

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>this position? Where are they going to draft or now?

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<v Speaker 1>But they got some drafted. Mickey told us, Mickey told

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<v Speaker 1>us yesterday he thinks Shawn Lee's playing Sam linebacker. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he said that he was with with that that

0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Mickey swaggers Mickey, Yeah, Mickey, go Sam linebacker. I'm like

0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he went, don't know about that. He went, he cornered

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a coach, he did, he beat somebody probably, Yeah, he

0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:38.120
<v Speaker 1>beat somebody up that day. Center Nebraska linebacker. I forgot

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:42.520
<v Speaker 1>his name, maybe Gifford, yes, Gilford, yeah, Gilford. No one

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Larry Larry Larry Allen junior. Yeah, well I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the second again. You mentioned it when he mentioned then

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<v Speaker 1>he went to a great school. He did. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>about it. There you go from Harvard Larry Allen, Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Allen Junior going to Harvard, as Brian said the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's a bigger hey story. Larry Allen Junior

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<v Speaker 1>his one. He has won the battle. Good for him,

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<v Speaker 1>he has one. All right. Well, that is all the

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<v Speaker 1>time we have for today. Thank you guys so much

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in Thank you Brian for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back next week on Wednesday for another show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh remember the draft show they're having. Will McClay in there,

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<v Speaker 1>him some tough and good questions. Okay, put him on

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<v Speaker 1>the spot, make him nervous, all right? For Nikki, Brian Roddis,

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