1 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome to a new episode of couch 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Talks on You Need Therapy Podcast. My name is Kat 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: I am the host, and usually on couch Talks, I 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: answer a question that you guys send to you Need 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: Therapy podcast dot com. You can send those questions now, 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: we always keep them anonymous. 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Now, like I said, usually we 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: answer questions on couch Talks, but I was reading the 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: newest edition of the on Site Journal, which is a 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: journal that on site on site workshops that a lot 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: of you probably are familiar with puts out on site 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: hosts workshops and intensives. And it's outside of Nashville, and 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: they also have a residential program called Milestones, and they 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: do a lot of really great work. A lot of 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: people that I hold highly regarded in the therapy world 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: work there. A lot of my previous mentors have worked 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 1: there or do work there, and it's just a great place. 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: But I was reading their latest journal and one of 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: the articles that was written by Mackenzie Vatt, who was 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: the editorial director, is called on empty, Redefining rest and 27 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: finding what we need to truly recharge, and it made 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: me think about the episode we just did about Burnout, 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 1: and I just thought we would go through it because 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: it talks about the seven different types of rest and 31 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: how to find it, and so I thought it would 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: be really helpful just to go through that as an 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: addition to what we were talking about earlier with burnout, 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: just because this is a time of year where a 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: lot of burnout happens. We're so uvenated and excited. We're 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: doing so many fun things in the summer, and a 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: lot of times we think that when we come back 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: from rest or vacation or something like that, we'll be 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: so excited to jump back into things, and a lot 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: of times it reminds us that maybe the stuff we're 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: doing isn't what we want to do. Maybe it reminds 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: us how overwhelmed we were. And then we have things 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: happening around daylight in the weather. That just add and 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: change the way we function and just perfect combination for 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: burnout to really pop up and say, Hey, you thought 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: you were going to feel recharged, Guess what you are 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: going to feel less charged than ever. And I thought 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: this was very interesting. In the article, it says forty 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: two percent of the global workforce report feeling burnout. Now 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: that is a lot, and they quoted doctor Sandra Dalton 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Smith saying rest is the most underused chemical free, safe 52 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: and effective alternative therapy available to us, which I thought 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: was so profound. It's the most underused chemical free, safe, 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: effective alternative therapy available to us. And we're going to 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: talk about those different types of rest and what type 56 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: you might need based on what you're going through, what 57 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: you're feeling. So again, this article was written by Mackenzie 58 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: Vaught and this comes from her, not me. I think 59 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: that this is just great information I wanted to share 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: with you guys. So the first type of rest physical rest, 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: and she breaks this into two subtypes. There's passive rest, 62 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: which is what most of us think about when we 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: just think about resting, and that is sleep. But there 64 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: also is physical rest where we get that through yoga, stretching, massage. 65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: That types of stuff signs you have a physical rest deficit. 66 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: Aches and pains, muscle spasms, falling asleep throughout the day. 67 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Ways to find physical rest Create an ideal environment for sleep, 68 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: start or end your day with yoga, Assess the ergonomics 69 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: of your workstation. Then there is mental rest. And mental 70 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: rest I think becomes more of a deficit because even 71 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: if we are not physically doing something, we often are 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: thinking of doing something. And I think because of the 73 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: fact that we have smartphones and we're available all of 74 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: the time, sometimes we are working or preparing ourselves to 75 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: be available even when we don't think we're doing that. 76 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: So signs you have a mental rest deficit. Racing mind 77 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: that keeps you up at night despite feeling tired, inability 78 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: to unplug from work or your phone, being unable to 79 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: concentrate for more than a few minutes at a time. 80 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: Ways to find mental rest. Keep a pad of paper 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: by your bed to offload thoughts. Oh my gosh, that's 82 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: such a good idea. I will drop things down in 83 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: my notes app on my phone, but I like the 84 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: pad of paper even more because just even pulling up 85 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: your phone might actually backfire on what you're even trying 86 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: to do. Schedule short breaks throughout the day to reset 87 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: your mind, empty your mind through a meditation practice. Then 88 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: we have sensory rest. Oh my gosh, this stat is wild. 89 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: The average person looks at their phone ninety six times 90 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: a day, which means we are usually having some kind 91 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: of sensory overload. And a lot of times I will 92 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: have a TV on, be looking at my phone and 93 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: then my computer's up. So many things could be happening 94 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: at once, and we are getting used to being overloaded. 95 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: But when it really comes down to it, our bodies 96 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: weren't created to work that way and function that way. 97 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: So signs you have sensory rest deficit inability to process information, 98 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: feeling overwhelmed by touch, smells, sights or sounds, headaches, insensitivity 99 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: to light. And I mean, we're looking at screens, so 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: many different screens so many times a day. You open 101 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: your phone average ninety six times a day. That doesn't 102 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: count the computer and the TV and the monitor on 103 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: your car, all of the things. Ways to find sensory rest, 104 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: close your eyes for a few moments throughout your day, 105 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: limit your screen time, wear noise canceling, headphones or ear plugs. 106 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: I've actually never tried that because I think it's just 107 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: like a sensory deprivation thing. But I've never tried wearing earplugs. 108 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: Even when I was a runner and I would wear headphones, 109 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: I would usually wear one at a time. So that 110 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: would be really interesting to just like take one thing 111 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: away where I don't have to be focusing on seventeen 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: different senses coming the net once. I'm even going to 113 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: throw one more thing in here. I was actually talking 114 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 1: about this with my husband this weekend. I've never tried 115 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: this either. There's something about sensory deprivation that almost freaks 116 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: me out. But I think that might even be a 117 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: sign that I'm so overloaded. I think that I need 118 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: to be like just having some kind of activity, sound, touch, 119 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: feels something happening at all times. But those sensory deprivation 120 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: spas where they do the different kinds of floats and 121 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: stuff like that could be a really cool experience or 122 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: something to just give you a little time out where 123 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: you don't have the option to do anything else but 124 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: just be. So. Then we have number four creative rest 125 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: and the author states that creative deficits rob us of 126 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: our problem solving skills and keep us trapped and familiar 127 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: patterns and cycles. I have felt this so much. I've 128 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: even felt this with a podcast. If I feel like 129 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm repeating myself and I can't come up with a 130 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: new different topics, or I keep on coming up with 131 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: the same ideas in a different way and I'm not 132 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: feeling as inspired, I get stuck in that same cycle. 133 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: And signs you've been in a creative rest deficit and 134 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: hearsay feeling of listlessness, inability to solve problems, boredom, and 135 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: ways to find creative rest. Go outside, update your workspace 136 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: with things that inspire you. Such a simple but good idea, 137 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: like just me giving my office a revamp with things 138 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: that are exciting, that bring me joy that kind of 139 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: make me critically think, could be such a good idea. 140 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: Schedule time to do nothing. I think this speaks also 141 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: to like the sensory part, I mean also and the 142 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: mental rest. It all kind of speaks together or goes together. 143 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: But if we're constantly trying to churn out content that 144 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: really actually gets in the way and backfires of how 145 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: creativity happens and how it works. And Ali Fallon said 146 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: this recently in a meeting I was in with her, 147 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: she took a break from Instagram and she said she 148 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: was noticing herself just feeling so much pressure to create, 149 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: and creativity doesn't really work that way. You get it 150 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: in bursts, But we have tried to train ourselves to 151 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: have this steady stream of creativeness, and it's like the 152 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: antithesis of creativity. Creativity is something that we experience versus 153 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: something we produce, Like our creativity produces things, but we 154 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: don't just click a button and produce creativity. Number five, 155 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: we have emotional rest. Emotional exhaustion occurs when our feelings 156 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: are out of alignment with our capacity to understand or 157 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: process our experiences, or when we care for the need 158 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: of others at the expense of our own and have 159 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: not We all been here. Signs you have an emotional 160 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: rest deficit include inability to access or connect with your feelings, 161 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: solving other people's problems, and ignoring your own outsized reactions 162 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: that don't fit your experience. So when your reaction to 163 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: something is bigger or doesn't actually fit with the experience 164 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: that you're having. Ways to find emotional rest find the therapist. 165 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: It's nice to just to have somebody to offload some 166 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: of that stuff with and help you regulate. Journal to 167 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: kind of again offload some of that stuff and use 168 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: a feeling wheel to help you name your emotions. Being 169 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: able to name your emotion I think, offers so much 170 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: more than I think anybody really realizes. Being able to 171 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: say this is what I'm feeling with this experience is 172 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: just so helpful, and it's such an easy tank. I 173 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: say easy, it can be very hard to get in 174 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: the rhythm or get in the mindset where I can 175 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: match what I'm feeling in my body and in my 176 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: experience with an actual word, because we're just used to 177 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: cutting that stuff off. Number six social rest. So a 178 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: lot of people think that introverts are always getting social 179 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: rests and extroverts never need it, but that's not true. 180 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: Both parties are going to need social rests and signs 181 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: you have a social rest deficit, feeling burnt out or 182 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: drained by people, avoiding social situations, or just being irritable. 183 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: Ways to find social rest Spend time with people that 184 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: leave you feeling restored, not depleted, People that allow you 185 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: just to be versus people that you feel like you 186 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: need to perform around schedule time for solitude, not isolation. 187 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: Solitude and isolation are very two different things, and ask 188 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: for help. And then number seven. The last type of 189 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: rest in this article is spiritual rest. Mackenzie writes in 190 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: here our core as humans, we intrinsically are connected by 191 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: our need to belong and contribute to something larger than ourselves. 192 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: Our belief systems inform how we find that sense of meaning. 193 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: You can find purpose through faith, community, work, or personal practices. 194 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: So signs you have a spiritual rest deficit inability to 195 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: find purpose in your life and work, lack of vision 196 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: and meaning, feeling disconnected from anything outside of yourself. Ways 197 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: to find spiritual rest. Make a list of places and 198 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: people that help you feel a sense of belonging and purpose. 199 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: Volunteer or serve others, Connect with a faith community or 200 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: other spiritual outlet that aligns with your belief system. So 201 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: I think that this can be really helpful if you 202 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: can go through that list of different types of rest 203 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: and identify what I mean, what you're feeling, so you 204 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: can then identify which actual kind of rest you have 205 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: the deficit in. So then the thing that you do 206 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: to find that rest actually aligns with what you need 207 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: more so than just trying to do everything, trying to 208 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: do every kind of rest or just trying to just sleep. 209 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: Like I said in the beginning, I think a lot 210 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: of times when we're feeling burnt out, we're like, oh, 211 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: we just need to do nothing. But there might be 212 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: a different type of nothing that we need to do, 213 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: and I think this list really helps outline a way 214 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: to do that that takes the homework out of it. Right. 215 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: It can be so overwhelming trying to figure out what 216 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: it is that you need, and this helps you kind 217 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: of just streamline that. Only you can figure that out 218 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: for yourself. Only you can decide that's it that fits. 219 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: But I think this list really does give you some 220 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: framework to look at so you're not just throwing spaghetti 221 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: at a wall. So I hope this was as helpful 222 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: for you guys as I found it to be. If 223 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: there's a way for me to post this article on 224 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: the show notes, I'm going to try to do that. 225 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: And again, it came from the on site journal and 226 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: the author was Mackenzie Bought, So Mackenzie, thank you for 227 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: writing this. I hope you guys have the day you 228 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: need to have, and I will be back with you 229 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: on Monday for another episode of You Need Therapy. If 230 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: you want to follow us, you can do that on 231 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: Instagram at you Need Therapy and at kat van Buren