1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast. Well, 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm happy to see you laughing and smiling. I wasn't sure. 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: It's real touch and go there for a minute. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Called you earlier. Do you want to share anything? 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: I don't know what to share. I love that. 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: By the way, we both had emergency calls this week 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: with Amy. That made me laugh in our conversation when 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: I called you, because you're like, well, I texted Amy, 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: I was like, that's funny because I also this week 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: was like, do you have a second Because sometimes it's 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: nice that we have that relationship where she's like, yes, 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: I have ten minutes, you know where you can because 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: she can really kind of center us back to a 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: place of because I think both of us can go 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: pretty extreme pretty fast. 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: It's the kindest way of putting it. 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's nice to kind of have that pull 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: back to center because when she speaks, she knows us 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: both so well that it's it's like, okay, no, you're right, 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: and either AI was overacting or whatever, but in your situation, 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: you know, I think what you were bringing up is 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: a very valid point, and I think a lot of 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: people would relate to it. 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: And I'm going to get through it without crying. Yes, okay, Yeah. 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: When you called today, I said, has this is this 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: some sort of implement implementing a phone a friend program 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: from therapist Amy? Because I thought, oh, it's ironic because 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: we don't talk like a ton on the phone. We 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: usually FaceTime or just text, yeah, voice mement or life away, 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 3: which I just was. 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Like, I gotta call my girl. I don't know why. 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: It's one of those where I'm like, I just I 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: need to. I need to call her and catch up. 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: That's the connection I needed it. Well, forgive me, Jennifer. 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: I have sinned. 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: I did engage with a follower not my own follower 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: on Instagram and gotten a little bit of a banter 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: and that fell unsettling in my bellet didn't like it, 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: and I actually killed with kindness. Still, so I think 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: that threw off my energy a little. I don't normally 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: do that because I just feel like people wanting to 42 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: pick a fight with someone they don't know, whatever, And 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: I almost. 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: Think those people get off on you responding back to them, 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: I know, which is why I've stepped away from that. 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Having said that, I just before you finish, I I 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: did someone said something to me the other day and 48 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: dms and said, you're pathetic, and I just go thank 49 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: you with like a smiley face because I actually thought 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: it was funny, you know, and I wasn't going to 51 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: continue on from there, but she had said something and 52 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: it was to the silliest thing. It was about the 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: sports game or whatever. She's like, you're just bitter, and 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: I was like, I actually could care less who now wins. 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: But I was just like having a conversation, you know, 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: cutting asparagus in my kitchen, like best of luck to 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: any t wins, like like call someone pathetic over that. 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 4: I just A'm like, this is. 59 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: Just paypot, this is kettle. Like it was just like 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: you're so bitter, slamming on your key, bored from behind me. 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, but it's funny because she's like, oh, I 62 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: took it this way, and I was like, yeah, no, 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: that's not what I'm What I was saying was this, 64 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: and she's like, oh okay, and she's like got it that, 65 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: like that makes sense. And then it was the next 66 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: day that she came around and it was a fine 67 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: conversation after that, and the next day she's like, hey, 68 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: I just realized I never apologize for being rude to you. 69 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, I appreciate that, but you like, 70 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: it's okay, Like people there's You're not going to be 71 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: the last person that comes on and tries to like 72 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: insult me. I appreciate how you came around to it. 73 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: Most times people will just continue on with they don't 74 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: like you, they don't like you, and there's there's no 75 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: way that and that I've learned we're not going to 76 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: get that approval. And then I think they get off 77 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: on the fact that we've responded to them. Yeah, the 78 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: ones that are really nasty. This one was just not 79 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: straight trolls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just that girl 80 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: that I was was not like she just maybe was 81 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: having a day. 82 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I actually had. 83 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: A great one this morning who also wasn't super like 84 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: in love with me. And then we wrote back and 85 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: I was like, hey, girl, so I'm sorry you feel 86 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: that way and I would hate to lose you, but 87 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: also I'm right here if you want to come back, 88 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: like I really do just love you. So there was 89 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: that shaky, unsettling. What I really think ultimately is happening 90 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: is I do not love leaving my kids. That's not 91 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: new and we're supposed to take a fun little vacation 92 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: just three nights in two full days, and I the 93 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: anxiety I get leaving is just really monumental. 94 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense, but it feels so real. 95 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: And that's what I was reaching out to Amy, because 96 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: she had sent me this really sweet text, like a 97 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: what are you going to pour into the world today, 98 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: you know, like her inspirational drop ins, and I back 99 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm not pouring out anything but 100 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: just sheer anxiety. I'm spiraling and she was like, Okay, 101 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: she goes sweet and she just calls it for what 102 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: it is, but basically was like, I don't in all 103 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: of our time together, I've never known you to be 104 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: super pumped. 105 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: About leaving town. 106 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: And she's like, I think there's something about unsafety there 107 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: for you. Ultimately, it's probably comes down to control, but 108 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: I think growing up didn't feel super safe and steadfast, 109 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: and so. 110 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: I don't. 111 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: I anchor in Jesus often, and I try to phone 112 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: a friend if I think it will be useful, but 113 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: I don't when I feel like I'm losing footing on 114 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: safety and a little bit it was just kind of 115 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: a little compound interest of a lot of little things 116 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: all at once, and it felt like everything felt a 117 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: little unsettled, and I don't even know if I'm making sense, 118 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: but it just felt like anxiety spiral, anxiety spiral, and 119 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: I could not get out of it. Like I could 120 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: feel my heart racing, I could just feel like I'm 121 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: not acting myself. To even engage with anybody in a 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: comment is silly, and I don't normally do that. And 123 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: I was like, then I shame myself into me. 124 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's like a because you're like, 125 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: why do I have anxiety? That's that's the shame piece, right, 126 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: And you're frustrated with yourself and you're you know, like 127 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: a mess. 128 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: You beat yourself up over it. 129 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: But I think and I always go back to like 130 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: the two things like both being like true, like of course, 131 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: like no mom, we when you come a mom obviously, 132 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: like you have that anxiety. And right now it's more forbably, 133 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: there's a season that you're in, you have a lot 134 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: going on. You have a lot going on, you know, 135 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: within the marriage and work and all those things, and 136 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: so like that just adds to the anxiety and pressure 137 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: of wanting your kids are your safe, safe spot. You know, 138 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: you're like they're obviously you know that's your little bubble 139 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: and you love that and there's nothing wrong with that, 140 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 1: Like that's it's beautiful. So to leave that bubble gives 141 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: you more anxiety, which that totally makes sense. And the 142 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: and part of all this is when you impressed and 143 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: go away, it fills y'all's cups so much that it's 144 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: so important. 145 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: Because so I think it's right. 146 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: So I think there that is can maybe try to 147 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: trump over you can both have obviously both feelings, but 148 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: like know that the bubble is needed and you're going 149 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: to be back to your kids in three days. And 150 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: also I can't nurture the bubble without going and getting 151 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: exactly that Time's where I got today. I was like, listen, 152 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: and you know, don't you feel like you is there 153 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: more friction right before you're about to just go have 154 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: time together? 155 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: Because I felt that this morning. 156 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't know if we're just 157 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: do for it or what, but like I'm ready to 158 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: like put on makeup, feel pretty, eat with both hands, 159 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: have a server, yeah, and make out with my husband. 160 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 161 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: I mean that's something that I told Alan when we 162 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: were in the movie. I was like, I need to 163 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: have something on the books with us where it's even 164 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: if it's just us going away to Gatlinburg for the 165 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: weekend or like a BlackBerry farm, Like I just we 166 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: have to have some just close connection without even if 167 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: it's just for two nights, like away from the kids, 168 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: and to have that connection time because yeah, the friction 169 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: and life and all that stuff starts to build and 170 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: it's like you got to recenter back to your person. 171 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: I want to be a girlfriend for three days. Yeah, 172 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: and you're going to have a great time. It's going 173 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: to fill your cup, and your kids are going to 174 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: be totally fine. Everything's going to be fine. Everything's gonna 175 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: be fine. But when you are in that chaotic space 176 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: of like you know, leaving in the world and the 177 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: kids and like you come so to Amy, I was like, 178 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: I know this is a bles like I'm blessed, and 179 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: I feel I feel silly for even having that, And 180 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: then I shame myself for feelings silly, and I'm like, Okay, 181 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: well it is what it is and this is how 182 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: I feel. 183 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: And we got to like we started to get to 184 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: like the root of it. 185 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: But I will say today I had like an hour 186 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: and a half, two hours in my home just me 187 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: and the baby, and I don't know the last time 188 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: I've had that, and it really saved my heart. Yeah, silence, 189 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: And I think I'm the fuel in that a lot, 190 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: and I have not had that either. 191 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Good. I'm glad you had that. And I also think 192 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: it's would you want sometimes? I you know, I'd get 193 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: anxiety if I was to. I can't I limit my 194 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: own Well, I can't do that because I'm gonna get 195 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: anxiety and I have shame around that. You don't want 196 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: me to feel that right now, So you shouldn't put 197 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: that on yourself. 198 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: Be your friend, Love you. 199 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: So we have Amy and TJ. Amy Robock and TJ 200 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Holmes coming on. They were anchors on Good Morning America. 201 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: They are now not at that job and they have 202 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: a podcast. I actually do a podcast with them. I 203 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: do part two. But we're gonna take a break and 204 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: then get them on and see where they're at and 205 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: what's going on in their world. 206 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: Hi guys, Hi, how are you good? 207 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: Are you? 208 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 6: How are you doing? 209 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 2: Oh good? 210 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 5: How are you? 211 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: What you got on? In the background? What's Trumper saying? 212 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: What's he saying? 213 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 6: He was just supposed to sign the Lincoln and Briley Act. 214 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 6: But he's doing a full beach given A. Yeah, his 215 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 6: views in the past week, so he's talking a lot 216 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 6: back there. He's making a lot of news to A. 217 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: Have you been watching the RFK Junior, I've been. I've been. 218 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: I had to stop, but yeah, I was. I listened 219 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: to it all morning. Do you have do you have 220 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: thoughts on it? 221 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's it's fact, you know what. I 222 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 6: didn't like this one because we didn't learn anything. I 223 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 6: found that the Democrats were trying too hard to get 224 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 6: on TV. They were trying too hard to posture when 225 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 6: they could have had a good substance of conversation. They 226 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 6: were too busy trying to grandstand and make sure they 227 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 6: on the evening news, if you will. It was too 228 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 6: much of that, I thought. So I was a little disappointed. 229 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 6: I was curious to hear about this guy. He's like 230 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 6: I had some Banana's ideas that ended up working out. 231 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, we actually had RFK Junior on a couple 232 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: of years more than a couple of years ago. It 233 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: was I'd say, gosh, maybe five years ago. A lot 234 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: of the podcast had to be cut, which was very 235 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: disappointing because I think everyone should be able to have 236 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: and who knows this might be getting cut now too, 237 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: but like, I think everyone should be able to have 238 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: their voices heard, whether we agree with them or whether 239 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: we don't. And as a mom of you know, kids, 240 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: both of us, you know, I have questions about certain things. 241 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: I have questions about vaccines. I've got questions about all that, 242 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: and so I like to learn and just you know, 243 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: do research and find research and from both sides, right, 244 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: And so that's why this one in particular was one 245 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: of the ones that I really wanted to watch. And 246 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by politics and watching fun fact, but I 247 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: wanted to be in politics and obviously didn't go into it. 248 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: But it was I was so diside, okay, right, but 249 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: I was. 250 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 4: I was. 251 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: I was disappointed when I when they were talking because 252 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: of the when some of them were speaking, it was 253 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: just so like angry, Like just so, I'm like, can 254 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: we just have conversations where it isn't so volatile? You know? 255 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: And I have thoughts on both sides of things, But anyways, 256 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: what are we writing down? 257 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: Tell us everything? 258 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 5: No? 259 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 6: I was I didn't think we came on to talk 260 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 6: politics today, but it was we were just looking no, no, 261 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 6: it was fascinating. It's the top of mind for both 262 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 6: of us today and it's musty TV for us. All 263 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 6: these confirmation here. 264 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: I do want to know more about the Morning Run 265 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: because the two of you have had a substantial career, 266 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: both of you independently in that world news and just 267 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: being amazing. And then you guys have created this daily podcast, 268 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: which is pretty cool. You know that's very hard to find. 269 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: I guess like news without all the noise, if that 270 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: makes sense. 271 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: I guess. 272 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: I maybe I'm completely forty three when I say this, 273 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: but I miss just learning, learning and not being inundated. 274 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: And so tell me on the scale from. 275 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 3: Zero added extra to all the extra, where do you 276 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: guys land when it comes to reporting on the Morning Run? 277 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: Because I have not had I didn't know about the 278 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 3: Morning Run and it actually get excited because if there's 279 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: a place that I can get filled in and not noisy, 280 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: I would love that. 281 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're really excited about it. 282 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 5: We've actually been talking about doing something like this for 283 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: years and years and years and years, and so we 284 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 5: knew it was going to be a heavy lift because 285 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: this is a newsroomove too. We're used to having support staff, 286 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 5: so it does require us to do what we love 287 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 5: almost around the clock because we're monitoring everything during the day. 288 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 5: We get a lot of writing done in the evening 289 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: when the stories have been done, and then we wake up. 290 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 5: One person wakes up at three am, the other one 291 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 5: works at wakes up at three forty five am, and 292 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 5: we were actually recording by five to thirty in the morning, 293 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: so we it's it is a full time job, but 294 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: we love it and yes, our goal is to give 295 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 5: listeners the information they need to start their day. What's 296 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: the latest, what's the greatest, what do you need to know? 297 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 5: Without any sort of slant or opinion. Now we'll give 298 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 5: our perspective having covered a lot of similar events or 299 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 5: having covered the exact events, But that's. 300 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: Where it ends. 301 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: I think just Greg ask a question with that within 302 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: the you know, when you watch one type of TV show, 303 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: they go more this way, when you watch a different one, 304 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: they go the other way. Do you consider yourselves down 305 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: the line or do you find yourself flirting with appeasing 306 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,239 Speaker 1: one side or the other, or pushing your own agendas 307 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: versus having a you know, truly looking at both sides. 308 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 6: I love oh, thank you. I'm so glad you asked, 309 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 6: because this is something that's been I mean, it's a 310 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 6: part of the industry right where you can't you have 311 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 6: to engage people and almost entertain them. But if you 312 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 6: dare use the word entertainment, then people don't think you're 313 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 6: serious enough or it's not news. But it's always the 314 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 6: trick in trying to find a balance to giving people 315 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: what they need to know straight down the line, but 316 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 6: give them some context and some perspective. Or in this 317 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 6: Anthony Mackie story right from Captain America, he just calls 318 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 6: the big hubbub right because he said something everybody's after him. Yes, 319 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 6: we told that story and gave the facts of the story, 320 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 6: but you know how we started that story off. We said, 321 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 6: come on, Anthony, you done stepped in it right now. 322 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 6: That's just everybody's having that conversation about him. So we 323 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 6: appreciate being able to give facts but also giving some 324 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 6: context and perspective and also showing that yes, we're viewing 325 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 6: it the same way you're viewing it. Anthony Mackie, Damn, 326 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 6: we love you, but you just messed up. So it's 327 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 6: not a matter necessarily of taking side on stories, and 328 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 6: certainly not in politics. But you know what, it's okay 329 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 6: to be yourself. It's okay to give a little perspective, 330 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 6: it's okay to be authentic, but you can still be 331 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 6: objective in doing so. 332 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Do you guys find that you guys are aligned with 333 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: your views or are there areas where you're like, I actually, 334 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: full hardly do not believe in this, but the other 335 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: person does. 336 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: You know what's so interesting, Jenna is when we had 337 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: our broadcasting jobs, I really didn't know and we didn't 338 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: talk shock when we left work. Now work is our life, 339 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: and so I've gotten to know. 340 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: We've gotten to know each. 341 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 5: Other's political views in a way that we hadn't before, 342 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 5: because really, no matter what people think about newsroom, it 343 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: isn't something that people discuss because we are supposed to 344 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 5: maintain objectivity as much as a human being can when 345 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 5: you're a journalist. 346 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: And so now to have a. 347 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 5: Deeply personal connection with my coworker, I'm actually surprised. We're 348 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 5: very similar. So that's helpful we have, you know, we're 349 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 5: not exactly the same on everything, but we're pretty darn close. 350 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: Can we ask what's an example of something we don't 351 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: agree on or that causes a little like huh. 352 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: I think male female things more. 353 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: Than inter That's kind of why I asked with that. 354 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: I didn't want to imply it, but I will. 355 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 5: The male perspective versus the male perspective is absolutely where 356 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 5: we are the least aligned for obvious reasons. Genetic right 357 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 5: is probably the way it's supposed to be because we 358 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 5: give each other. 359 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: Perspectives that the other wouldn't have had. 360 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 6: But you know what, to your point, you to your question, 361 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 6: black and white race, we have probably more discussions, more 362 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 6: even heated certainly I would say serious is, but discussions 363 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 6: about race because there's nothing in our private conversations. If 364 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 6: we dare you dare put that in a tweet, you're 365 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 6: going to get right, You're going to get canceled. But 366 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 6: if you say it in a place of with somebody 367 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 6: that you love and respect and you know where they're 368 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 6: coming from, we've been able to have all kinds of 369 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 6: breakthroughs personally in talking about that. But it takes us 370 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 6: a while sometimes in covering stories to have different perspectives 371 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 6: of like, hey, no, my people or somebody here would 372 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 6: see it this way, and that has been really cool 373 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 6: about our dynamic and it has been fun and it's 374 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 6: been challenging, but I wish more people could have the 375 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 6: conversations that I know we have behind the scenes when 376 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 6: it comes to race. 377 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting one because there's just a level 378 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: of respect and also not understand like, I don't know 379 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: the challenges that TJ You've faced, you know, I from 380 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: things that I've heard from friends, but you know, and 381 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: then it could be maybe easy for us to be like, 382 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: well and not understand it, you know, and then that 383 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: just makes frustration on your you know, So that could 384 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: that would be I could see that could be challenged, challenging, 385 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: but also lovely and healing and growing and like learning too, 386 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: and I think that's a beautiful space within that as well. 387 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 6: It's been fun too because we were out in public, Golijah, 388 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 6: and things will come up and a light bulb will 389 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 6: go off or she'll say, oh, I never thought about 390 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 6: that before, or I mean, I know there's a little 391 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 6: on the funnier side, but some things just just culturally. 392 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 6: I just found out that women do a base tan. 393 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 6: It's just something that white before they go on vacation. 394 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 6: You all are spiling you all knew about this. Nobody 395 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 6: told us about this, but you'll have to go Tan 396 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 6: before you go on vacation to Tan. 397 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, so get earned, guys. 398 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, that's just you could have found 399 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: about a million things and I would have never thought 400 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: we would talk about that today the base time. 401 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, just doing the morning run? Does that make you 402 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: kind of miss or would you ever go back back 403 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: to doing you a morning show again? If you guys 404 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: were approached. 405 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: I don't think at this point in our careers we 406 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: would ever say we would never do something. 407 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: I can't think of what that would be. But doing. 408 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 5: What we love on a different platform or on an 409 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 5: old platform that. 410 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: We're returning to, sure we would consider that. At least 411 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 4: I would. 412 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 6: I don't want to speak for you, but yeah, you 413 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 6: know what, I'm excited. I would be excited to do 414 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 6: it again. With the experience and perspective I have by 415 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 6: being out of it. There is so much now I'm 416 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 6: excited to bring to a morning show, to do things 417 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 6: differently from the way I have seen it in newsrooms 418 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 6: for twenty five plus years of a career. Those types 419 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 6: of things, and also all we have learned about podcasting 420 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 6: and a whole new world this has opened up to 421 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 6: us and learning about a different business and learning and 422 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 6: meeting different people. Like my first calls now if I 423 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 6: was at a TV show, my first calls for guests 424 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 6: would be to podcast. Would be two guests who've been 425 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 6: on podcasts. That whole world that I think folks are 426 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 6: coming around a little more too. We're talking about it 427 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 6: data in the Damn Confirmation Hearing Is that your podcast? 428 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 6: On your podcast? You said this? 429 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: And I was like, he was on my podcast? Are 430 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: they referring to it? They didn't quote wind On, but 431 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: it did come up about you. 432 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: I know that was funny. Is there a news story 433 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: that is particularly hard for you to cover personally that 434 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: has come. 435 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 4: Up recently or just in my prow. 436 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: Just to like recently for y'all show, Like, is there 437 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: something where you're like, Hey, I'm not going to cover this, 438 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: or be like this is just a hard one because 439 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: it hits close to home, or it's it's just a 440 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: topic that you don't like to discuss. 441 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 6: You know, I think we're we of that at this 442 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 6: point becomes accustomed to. I mean, whether it's a school shooting, 443 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 6: there's a tornado, it's a hurricane. We've seen like the 444 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 6: worst uh does that that you can imagine in this country? 445 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 6: But I think when it gets personal, this is a 446 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 6: small thing. I know it's in the grand scheme of things. 447 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 6: But we hesitated to speak about Matt James and Rachel 448 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 6: m'connell's breakup because been close to Matt for a long 449 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: time and Matt has been very instring. He was instrumental 450 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 6: in helping me out of when we were going through 451 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 6: our Funk channel. So on a story like that, there 452 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 6: are so many things and so many people sometimes that 453 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 6: you you don't even realize sometimes you have a personal 454 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 6: connection to and so it gets in your head sometimes 455 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 6: like you want to be kind, you want so you 456 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 6: try to just do your job and just give the facts. 457 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 6: I think sometimes it gets difficult when I mean the 458 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 6: story about David Muir as well, the story about George Stephanopolos, right, 459 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 6: those things that have been headlined. These are people we 460 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 6: know personally. We got to cover it, but you got 461 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 6: to you got to check yourself sometimes to not be 462 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 6: too kind. 463 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 5: Yes, and interestingly, when you are at least my experience 464 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 5: has been when you are on a broadcast network kind 465 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 5: of out of respect for your industry or your fellow colleagues, 466 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 5: we don't really report on each other ever, So now 467 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: having a podcast, it's a different ballgame because that should 468 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 5: be a part of what we cover, especially because we 469 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 5: have inside information and knowledge and we know what's going 470 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 5: on behind the scenes, and we know personally a lot 471 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: of these people who are being reported on. So we've 472 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 5: never interestingly enough, I've never really been in a situation 473 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 5: where I had to report on a colleague because we 474 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: just don't do that. 475 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 4: We ignore it. 476 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 5: If you'll notice, from morning show to morning so to 477 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 5: morning show, if there's another it would have to rise 478 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 5: to the level of a Matt Lauer incident before anybody 479 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 5: would report on anything. 480 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: And even then it's it's. 481 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: Like, did you talk about the clothes little the we did? 482 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 4: Did we did? Because you know I have clipped my 483 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: clothes before, I have clipped. 484 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: During a awful fire. 485 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: No, And we I did say that. No, I mean 486 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 4: and during a during any kind. 487 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: Of it's voicing one word, but that's just that was like, 488 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, no, I would you say to yeah yeah. 489 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 5: In the studio, but I but I also did point 490 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 5: this out, Janna, And this is just total disclosure. I 491 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 5: mean I have been to we both been to so 492 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 5: many natural disasters, so many horrific scenes where there have 493 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 5: been massive casualties, whether it's a terror attack, a school shooting, 494 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 5: or a fire. And yes, you pay less attention to 495 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 5: how you look, and yes you keep your look so 496 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: as to not be distracting, but you're still looking in 497 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 5: the mirror and I'm still putting on mascara and I'm 498 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 5: still considering my hair not being you know, messy or 499 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 5: a distraction. So you know, at what point is it 500 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 5: too much? At what point is it vanity? And at 501 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 5: what point is it just actually making sure that you 502 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 5: aren't a distraction on television? Look, I'm not I just 503 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 5: I don't want to say, oh, look what he did. 504 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: Sure, but then look what I did? 505 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 5: You know? So there where is the line in you know, 506 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 5: you're a you're on a public visual medium, so can 507 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 5: iteration has to be taken or is taken, and maybe 508 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 5: even not by you, maybe it's. 509 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,239 Speaker 4: By your Maybe he had people who did it for him. 510 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: There's just a lot. 511 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting though, because it is it's got to 512 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: be hard to have then cover someone that you work 513 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: with and know, I mean I'm trying to think of 514 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, well, I even think when we do wind down, 515 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: when we've gone out on the road, we do like 516 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: a live podcast on stage with an audience. 517 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: We have such a great time, but there's. 518 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 3: Always even we like to take, you know, get it 519 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 3: a little juicier things we wouldn't normally say on this 520 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: podcast and just give them like you know why they 521 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: came right, like they want the inside scoop. And so 522 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: because we're trusted and safe people with each other, we 523 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: ask more bold questions. But I still think I mean, 524 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: even in that I can there's a two a too 525 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: sworn off rule with like I can tell if I 526 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 3: asked twice, and I get kind of like, eh, no, 527 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to answer that by just like I dip, 528 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: you know, because I'm just like, okay, I get it, 529 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: we're not we're not answering. Yeah, So I do think 530 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 3: there's probably like just a level of respect. I think 531 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: it's also being that you all have been in badcast 532 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: journalism for as long as you haven't in so many 533 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: different arenas, it feels like there has to you probably 534 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: just know so much that it's like at some point 535 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 3: you're giving benefit of the doubt or you're giving gracious 536 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: assumption because you just know what you know and you 537 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: can't unknow what you know, so probably being protective or 538 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: knowing and giving gracious assumption, you just default to that. 539 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 1: We do. 540 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 6: And look, we not just at where we used to work, 541 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 6: but just in the industry. I mean, this is yeah, 542 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 6: it seems like such a big industry, but it's such 543 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 6: such a small community. We all know each other. Every 544 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 6: story that comes out, anything related in media, we know 545 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 6: somebody connected to it without a doubt, but we hold 546 00:25:42,880 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 6: back on commenting on on everybody. 547 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: With that commenting on it. When you comment, people will 548 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: make headlines too, And so it's for me, it gives 549 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: me the I get sick like the especially if they 550 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: don't know the full context behind a headline too. But 551 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: then also I've had to check myself, going, no, that 552 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: actually wasn't a very nice thing for me to say, 553 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: And so it's been good reflection too, to go, did 554 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: I really have to have an opinion? And why did 555 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: my opinion really matter in that moment? And why did 556 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: I say it like that? Because that was probably not 557 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: a nice way to put it and say it. And 558 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: so I think, you know, there's kind of growth in 559 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: all of it too. 560 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 6: But that comes from you could because you've been through 561 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 6: some ish, right, You've been through and we have caught 562 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 6: ourselves as well in writing a headline or writing a 563 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 6: line like that's not actually accurate. I'm just trying to 564 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 6: get somebody to click on that or get some attention. 565 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 6: You do, you check yourself on that all the time, 566 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 6: and that comes with perspective. My god, the headlines and 567 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 6: things we've seen and read about ourselves that we absolutely 568 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 6: could not believe. We don't ever want to in a 569 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 6: position that we are doing that to anybody. We give 570 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 6: everybody the benefit of the doubt on our everything that 571 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 6: comes out of our mouth. That was that went for 572 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 6: what was the those two famous I say famous, Uh, 573 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 6: nobody else knows about it, just us. Kate Middleton and 574 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 6: the Golden Bachelor. Yes, right, those were two examples that 575 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 6: everybody was talking about. Kate Middleton with the picture, you'll 576 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 6: remember that whole scandal, photoshop. 577 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 5: The picture, photoshop there, and they were saying terrible things 578 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 5: about it. 579 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 6: Then the Golden Bachelor, right, they got divorced right after 580 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 6: and everybody was saying, what is his deal? And then 581 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 6: it turns out both of them ended up having cancer. 582 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 6: Those were extreme cases. But I'm saying those type of mom, 583 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 6: I hate, hate, hate, those stories where the mob comes 584 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 6: after somebody and just everybody, just take a beat. Let's 585 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 6: just wait to hear what actually happened. That type of 586 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 6: stuff drives me crazy. And she knows that I'm getting 587 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 6: worked up talking about it now. It's just it. I 588 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 6: just it drives me nuts. Just everybody, just take a beat, 589 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 6: let's wait to hear. It's a human being. They made 590 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 6: a mistake. 591 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: But Jesus, do you think that your perspective in that, 592 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: and your grace for that and your protection of that 593 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: comes from the fact that you all met working together, and. 594 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: That you you. 595 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: Had worked together for a long time, and the way 596 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 3: that you all have connected and you you bonded quickly 597 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 3: over I would guess intelligence because I think Amy's a 598 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: wildly intelligent female from just what I've always watched. You know, 599 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: no offense, TJ. I didn't super watch you, Ton, and 600 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: that's not it's just like I just like her. 601 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 6: You would not have been impressed. It's okay, No, it's. 602 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 3: Not that I've never It's just that I haven't as much. 603 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: But I I'm asking that because I know you know 604 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: the headlines struck y'all too, and that I wonder I 605 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: guess my question for you is, because of that's that 606 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: I mean, can't even imagine what that feels like, because 607 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: only you two really know the truth of any of that, 608 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: and because the headlines drove. 609 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: So much of that. 610 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: Do you feel then like you have a stronger protection 611 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: and a strongerracious assumption for people and their humanity because 612 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: of that? 613 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 5: Absolutely? And I think and I know both of us 614 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 5: treated anyone we interviewed with that same level of respect. 615 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 5: I that was a huge part of who I was 616 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 5: as a journalist, who I am as a journalist, to 617 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 5: not rush to a judgment or an assumption, and to 618 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: recognize the humanity in everyone I interviewed, no matter who 619 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 5: they were. But it's one of those things where you 620 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 5: can imagine what it's like to be in their hot seat, 621 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 5: you can imagine how tough it must be. But until 622 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: you actually go through it and have the vicious headlines 623 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 5: and you have the agendas and you have a narrative 624 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 5: being written for you, you can't know how crushing and 625 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 5: horrific and suffocating and frustrating that is so. 626 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 6: Yes, I think I was a little like that already, 627 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 6: just extending great. I mean, something as simple as I 628 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 6: always use it as the waiter at the restaurant might 629 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 6: be an awful waiter doing the worst job ever, being rude, 630 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 6: and I'll just go, you know what, maybe who knows 631 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 6: what news they got before they came here, about their health, 632 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 6: about their rent, about family member, you know, just give 633 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 6: people a pat I was always kind of like that. 634 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 6: Now I completely defer to whoever is getting trashed, like 635 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 6: who I will defer. I need to hear this person, 636 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 6: I need to sometimes even hug this person. You don't 637 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 6: have to. You don't have to make an excuse for 638 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 6: somebody's behavior, right, You don't have to do You can 639 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 6: still put your arm around them and tell them they're 640 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 6: doing something wrong. I just wish we could find a 641 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 6: way to do that publicly. We never, but that's just 642 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 6: how I view it now that people are making mistakes, 643 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 6: we can talk about it, but we just don't have 644 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 6: to assault them via social media the way we do, 645 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 6: or assume the worst of them. 646 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: Sure, and I think within headlines and stuff, I know 647 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: I've fallen guilty to this, but I've felt like I've 648 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: had to defend certain things. You know. Now, it's like 649 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: I know my truth and all of that, But do 650 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: you feel like there was something for you or like 651 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: I need to defend X or this, you know what 652 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean? 653 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: Like was that? 654 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: Oh? 655 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 5: I mean that is the first several episodes of our 656 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 5: podcast for us doing just that, because we stayed silent 657 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 5: for a year, and unfortunately what happened with that is 658 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 5: other people spoke for us. 659 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 660 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 5: So yes, we absolutely felt like we had a record 661 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: too correct and a reputation to defend without a doubt. 662 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 6: Just should have done it earlier though, that's the only thing. 663 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 6: Should have done it immediately, But we weren't as savvy 664 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 6: media savvy as we are now. 665 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: Well in hindsight, I mean it's you know, of course, yeah, 666 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: like you don't. 667 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 668 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: I didn't want us weekly breaking the news that my 669 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: husband was a sex addict and rehab like I you know, 670 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: but also I didn't want to come out with that 671 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: information because I didn't think that was information that I 672 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: wanted people to know, and so that was our own 673 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: personal thing. But that was sold to a publication from 674 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: a very close friend, and you know, then I had 675 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: to then do the repair after that, and so you know, 676 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, reading and hearing because I was listened to 677 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: your show when you guys were talking about it. But 678 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean to have, you know, a publication. I don't 679 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: want to say out because that's not the word, because 680 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: y'all have had your thing and you've talked about it, 681 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: but like, it's not to not do it on your 682 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: terms is a Really it's really messed up, and it's 683 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: very violating and it's very disrespectful, and it's ensure we 684 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: could you can say like, oh I wish I did 685 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: it this way, but I mean you guys were just 686 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: doing what you could in that moment too. 687 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 5: And Jenna, they did out us. They outed our relationship. 688 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 5: They didn't out an affair, they didn't out cheating. They 689 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 5: outed a relationship that, yes, we wanted to keep private 690 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 5: until our divorces were finalized, but we were well into 691 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 5: the process of our divorce and we thought we had 692 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 5: to write or at least an option to have a 693 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 5: few months of privacy while we were putting all of 694 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 5: our affairs in order before we went and said, hey, 695 00:32:59,560 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 5: the one. 696 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: I was nervous that TJ was not going to like that. 697 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: I honestly felt it a little for me, and then I. 698 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: Was like, oh, no, no, and there's the clickbait we 699 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: all talk about. 700 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: Damn it. 701 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 6: We've been working for two years. One word ruined it all, 702 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 6: one word. 703 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 5: Getting our divorces in order. But yes, uh wow, Ayn, 704 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 5: that was fun. Yeah, but when someone tells your story 705 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 5: for you, it's really hard to untell it and tell 706 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 5: it correctly because people only heard what they were told initially, 707 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 5: and all the pictures that they put up as proof 708 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 5: to sell their story all. 709 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 4: Stuck in people's heads, and it's sometimes. 710 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 5: Look, I remember someone telling me this when I first 711 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 5: got into this business, be careful because perception is reality. 712 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 5: And obviously that's kind of almost an oxymoron in a phrase, 713 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 5: but it's the truth, and so whatever the perception is, 714 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 5: it's sticks and then that just becomes the truth, whether 715 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 5: it is or not. And we knew that intellectually, we'd 716 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 5: seen that happen to other people, but until you actually 717 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 5: personally experienced it. I thought it was funny when you 718 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 5: said we weren't media savvy. It sounds funny coming from 719 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 5: the media, but the truth is that is a whole 720 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 5: other level of being in the spotlight. 721 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 4: That we had never experienced before. 722 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 3: Well, and I think you're humanists. I think anyone's humanists 723 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: wants to defend themselves because you know you. But I 724 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 3: also think in the seat that I sit now, and 725 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: this isn't the majority of the population, you know, Like 726 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: I think that's where we get the trolls and the 727 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: hate and all the things. But I think a healed 728 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: person that's been through their own knows that taking a 729 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 3: minute is actually a really mature, mindful and integrity driven 730 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: response instead of coming out of the gate arms swinging, 731 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: emotionally driven. And for the vast majority, if not all, 732 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: of your careers, you've had to report that exact same way. 733 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 3: You've had to report out of factual integrity and not 734 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 3: emotion driven news. So to imply that in a personal way, 735 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: probably I would imagine, was quite stressful and difficult. 736 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 6: You know, I never really thought about it that way 737 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 6: us trying to at the time. I can still remember 738 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 6: standing in my dressing room trying to deal with the 739 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 6: situation because we weren't in the same city at the time. 740 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 6: I'm thinking about the right practical way to go about right. 741 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 6: We even wrote press releases in a very journalistic way 742 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 6: I guess you could almost argue that we were reporting time, who, what, when, where, why? Why? 743 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 6: It was we set it up like that, But I 744 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 6: hadn't really thought that our minds were working in that 745 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 6: way at the time. That maybe caused us to react 746 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 6: and behave the way we did initially. But we we 747 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 6: know from now on, a man, you say anything about us, 748 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 6: we will be out and with a response in moments. 749 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 6: We just we will not allow that to happen again again. 750 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 6: Lesson learned, and to be honest, I'm still sitting here 751 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 6: still thinking a little bit about talk about training that 752 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 6: we were laughing. You accidentally use that word right, And 753 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 6: I'm still sitting here thinking, how are they going to 754 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 6: try to take that and make some negative hit? 755 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: Trust me? I After every episode, I'm like, did I 756 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: say something where they constrained? And I just re listened 757 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: to something just a couple of days ago because I 758 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: was working with Sam or I was Sam Baldoni was 759 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: on my movie set the last few weeks, and so 760 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: they had asked about, you know, did I hear anything 761 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: about Justin and Blake? And I'm like, I had to 762 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: listen back to make sure nothing would have been any 763 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: way just you know, because they will try to, you know, 764 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: put it together. I mean even you know, they tried 765 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: to your headline that you said about me, like you know, 766 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: TJ things, Jana Kramer's crazy, you know what I mean, 767 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: and you know, and you know he's you know, texting 768 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: me like I'm sorry. I was like, no, I know 769 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: it was funny, and I took it as funny, but 770 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: like you know, they just try to turn something into something. 771 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 6: You know, but yeah, to that point that how bad 772 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 6: I Felda was still trying to get adjusted to it. 773 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 6: I didn't know you well enough at the time I 774 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 6: saw it. I was like, oh, what if she sees 775 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 6: this and things actually said something horrible about her. Obviously, 776 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 6: some people only see the headline. If you're lucky, a 777 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 6: few people will read a few sentences down, but nobody's 778 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 6: going to go listen to the full podcast to get 779 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 6: the full context for what I said allose other things, 780 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 6: and it's a it's a terrible way, and then we all. 781 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 2: Quitting on a daily basis. I questioned this podcast. 782 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 5: You end up finding to pre edit yourself, which is 783 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 5: just no way to live and it's not the right 784 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 5: way to communicate. But you end up kind of doing 785 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 5: that because you're just so afraid that, yes, you're gonna 786 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 5: do what I just did. I should probably pre edit 787 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 5: a little bit more. 788 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 2: Is there human? 789 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and in you know, obviously relationship show? What is 790 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: because I want to celebrate I love celebrating relationships. You know, 791 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: you guys fell in love, you know, was it the 792 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: how you guys wanted to happen? 793 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: Exactly? 794 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: No, but love was found and I think it's beautiful 795 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: and I think that should be celebrated. So what is 796 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: the best What is the best part of y'all's relationship? 797 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 1: And like, what what is you know? What does TJ 798 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: do that you know fills your cup? What does Amy 799 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: do that you know just makes your day brighter? 800 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 3: I wish they could see TJ's visual responses to some 801 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 3: of these questions. 802 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 2: It's gold. 803 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, you know what that was? 804 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 6: Every question she was asking I had an immediate answer for. 805 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 6: I thought I was going to have to think a 806 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 6: little longer about it. But as you were asking those things, 807 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 6: the things I love every day she lit to Relie 808 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 6: slides across the hardwood floors in her socks. She does 809 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 6: it twenty times a day. And what I mean, I 810 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 6: always about her. She never gets rid of that childlike enthusiasm. 811 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 6: It's always there. And so sometimes if you don't have 812 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 6: not in the same mood or don't have the same energy, 813 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 6: it might seem like it's annoying because it's almost like 814 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 6: a little kid pestering you. I'm not no offense, but 815 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 6: I'm trying to put people in the right mindset. It's 816 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 6: she has that energy. And I think, I say all 817 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 6: the time, you're not looking for somebody to grow old with, 818 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 6: You're looking for somebody to stay young with. And I 819 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 6: found somebody that I can stay young with who was 820 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 6: my best friend before we ever got romantic. So I 821 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 6: am just still getting to hang out and work every 822 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 6: day with my best friend, and I get some man 823 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 6: that benefits. 824 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 4: It's a little slideshow, okay. 825 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: And for me with TJ and it's he is the 826 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 5: funniest human I know. 827 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 4: He makes me laugh. I have never laughed more in 828 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 4: my entire life. 829 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 5: And that was one of the reasons why as a friend, 830 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 5: I could never get enough time to hang out with him, 831 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 5: because it was a blast. 832 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 4: It was a guaranteed blast. 833 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 6: So I amuse you, Yeah, you amuse me. 834 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 5: We have the same kind of humor, and I just 835 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 5: and by the way, to actually be really funny, to 836 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 5: have those quick responses, those quick ones, you have to 837 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 5: be so freaking smart, like he is so intelligent. So 838 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 5: I just have a huge amount of respect for him 839 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 5: and his intellect, which also translates into just an amazing 840 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 5: byproduct of humor, which I love. 841 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 4: How I love to laugh. 842 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 5: It's my favorite thing to do, and so it's awesome 843 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 5: that my favorite person makes me laugh. 844 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 6: Smart and funny. 845 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 2: You're a real catch. 846 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: The sliding into DMS thing is going to really take 847 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 3: on a whole new thing for me now that I. 848 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 4: Know you, I shoudn't start the podcast that way. 849 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: Just slide into the screen Tom Cruise style, do you know? 850 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 6: I'm not kidding. She does it all around the house. 851 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 6: Sometimes not just going from one room to another. She'll 852 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 6: just go to this wall and take off running and 853 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 6: just slide to the other wall. 854 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't even I didn't realize how much 855 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 5: I did it, but I love doing it. 856 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it is very Tom Cruise, risky business esque. 857 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 2: It's remind I like it exactly what I do. 858 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 4: I actually do it. 859 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 2: Around the house. 860 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 3: Have you ever done pledge on the bottom don't like 861 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 3: a helmet first, but give it a try. I mean, sister, 862 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: you can really get some link, you can get some mileage. 863 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 6: We're helmets. 864 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, pludge, I can't. Well, thank you for coming on, 865 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Pitch, pitch the shows. Tell tell all our lists, 866 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: our listeners where they can listen next. 867 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're way better at pitching than me. 868 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 6: They can listen. 869 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 5: Look. 870 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 6: We launched the Amy and TJ podcast a little over 871 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 6: a year ago. That's where we do our long form interviews, 872 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 6: do a lot of back and forth, cover a lot 873 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 6: of topics that are breaking. But we also have the 874 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 6: Morning Run, which is our daily news podcast. And again, 875 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 6: like you all, we're saying, you didn't know it was there, 876 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 6: And we have now at a point with the Morning Run, 877 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 6: which we only launched three or four months ago, we 878 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 6: are so proud of it and we are now excited 879 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 6: to go tell people about it and to go sample 880 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 6: it and to check it out. And it's guaranteed there 881 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 6: every day at six thirty am Eastern Time, so where 882 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 6: you are in the country, it'll be there for your 883 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 6: commute in the morning. 884 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, unbiased, middle of the road factual. 885 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 4: With a with a little entertainment. 886 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 5: We we have a little bit sprinkled in there, but 887 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 5: it really is kind of no nonsense in the sense 888 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 5: that I know, when I wasn't doing the show, if 889 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 5: I was out, I was desperate, if I was commuting 890 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 5: or in the car or on a run, I would 891 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 5: have loved to have had like a twenty twenty five 892 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 5: to thirty minute synopsis of what I needed to know 893 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 5: before I started my day, before I got to where 894 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 5: I needed to be, And that's exactly what we do. 895 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 5: So it to me, it's perfect. If you're on your 896 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 5: way to work, you're dropping your kids off to school, 897 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 5: and you just want to know what's happening or what's 898 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 5: going to happen today, you'll get it on morning run, right. 899 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: And I got to know, TJ, what are you drinking? 900 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 6: It's uh, you know what. I'll show it to you 901 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 6: because you probably wouldn't believe me. Jinna, it is. 902 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 4: January, so it's are you doing dar? 903 00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 6: January's sparkling, bubbly with a little I am very mixed 904 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 6: in interesting. I just fooled myself. 905 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: Into I'm like, are we starting early? 906 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 2: Feel? 907 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? 908 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: Like that is that a branded mug? 909 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a branded mug filtered water with ice. That's 910 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 4: that's what I'm drinking. 911 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 6: Boring, boring. We would have been much if we had 912 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 6: been drinking this month. 913 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 2: You'll do that another time off air. 914 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you guys so much. Appreciate you, 915 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: and we'll be chatting soon. 916 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 4: Thank you guys. 917 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 3: All Right, I said broadcast voices, did you I wanted 918 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 3: to be an anchor woman? 919 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 6: Same? 920 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: Really? Yeah? 921 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 3: And do you know some dude at Channel four and Detroit. 922 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 3: I went and sat in the general manager's office and 923 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 3: he said, he shook me down, creamer. He squashed my dreams. 924 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 3: But what he did is he filtered who was going 925 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 3: to make it and who wasn't. Because he said, could 926 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 3: you stand in the pouring rain and and report over 927 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 3: a dead body in the middle of Detroit? 928 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: And I said, no, I don't think so, Like I 929 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 2: actually don't think so. And then I was like, so, 930 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 2: I guess I guess that's not it. I just feel 931 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 2: like it felt a little ool crushing. 932 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Once I knew I wasn't running for the Senate, 933 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: and then once I knew I wasn't go I didn't 934 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: want to. The thing is, I just didn't want to 935 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: go to college. 936 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 2: So I was like, what can I do that avoids college? 937 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, actress, but don't you have to 938 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: go to like school for like to be like in 939 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: the Congress and the Senate. 940 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: Like that is what I. 941 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: Wanted to like, I really wanted to do that. And 942 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean I won extra credit with something to go 943 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: to the Capitol and I got to sit there and watch, 944 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, a Senate hearing and all of it. And 945 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: then and then after that, I was like, I don't 946 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: think then, I don't think she's caught out for this. 947 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: And then and then the anchor woman, I was like, 948 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: how much school do I got to do? So I 949 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: was like, Hollywood, it is your career. 950 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 2: Math is awesome. Oh okay, what a wild world, wild 951 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,240 Speaker 2: wild I love. 952 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: You, Love you to talk next week. 953 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 2: Bye bye 954 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 6: M HM