1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: It is a football Friday Week eleven edition and the 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: first road test for Kyler Murray. Welcome Bird Gang. On 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: today's show, Zach Kershman joins me. The main topic conversation 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. It's his second start, first start on the road. Also, 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: what does Trey McBride do for an on court? And 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: how do the Cardinals defend CJ. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: Stroud? 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Plus we head into enemy territory and speak with Houston 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Texans TV host Drew Doherty get his thoughts on Sunday's matchup. 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode seven hundred and it starts now. 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: Boo to Baker, what heart? 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: What rent? This guy's unbelievable? Cardinals Cover two is presented 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: by Hyundai Crowd, partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 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He's it again so. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Far whow here's Craig Griolu. 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: So we learned something about head coach Jonathan Gannon on Friday, 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: And all credit to you, Zach, because for a while 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: there it seemed like you and JG were having a 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: one on one conversation in the midst of a press conference. 22 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: But there is a. 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Watch, a specific watch that Gannon wears and which he called, 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: quote the best thing I've ever bought for myself, care 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: to explain, which was a thirty some dollar watch that 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: he had. It's an iron Man watch. NFL Films put 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: together a piece kind of centered around Mike McDaniels and 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: the power of time, and he bought a really really 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: expensive which Gannon sear to mention as well correct a 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: very flashy watch, and it was his first gift to himself, 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel's, that is. And the reason why is because 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: he showed his Dolphins players and said, I'm gonna have 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: to take out a mortgage for this if you guys 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: don't play well and I have to get fired. 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: So let's play well. Let's win some games so that 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: I could afford watches like these. And Jonathan Gannon, on 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: the other hand, is somebody that used to never wear 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: a watch, and he read a book by this ex 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: military member and his name is Jocko Willink who talked 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: about the power of time and you don't need a 41 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: flashy watch, you just need something that says the time 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: and the date, and that's all it is. And I 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 3: guess JG read his book. It's one of his favorite 44 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: books from what I've learned, and he said, after that, 45 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: you know what, I'll try on to watch. And it's 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: a very simple watch. And you could see that there's 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: a dozen coaches or half a dozen coaches around the 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: NFL that have that same exact watch that JG does. 49 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: It's Andy Reid, Brandon Staley from the Chargers. JG's one 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: of them, and a few others. But it's kind it's 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: kind of cool. It shows the power of time a 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: little bit. 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: And it's more specifically about time. And Gannon said, maximizing 54 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: the time you have in a day. You have twenty 55 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: four but you have even fewer than that within the facility, 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: on the practice field, in the meeting room. Are you 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: maximizing your time during the week to perform on Sunday? 58 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: To your point about Mike McDaniel, so you can have 59 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: that win on Sunday. Putting in the work Monday through 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: Saturday so Sunday can be a success. 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 3: And that's why I asked him, like, in the grand 62 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: scope of everything, when you look at a twenty four 63 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 3: hour day. What can you say that your players made 64 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: the most of their time. And it's about going to 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: the film room, it's about staying in the weight room. 66 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: It's about putting in all the actual work and focusing 67 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: on all the details that could separate you from being 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: a great team to being an elite team. And that's 69 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: obviously the trajectory that the Cardinals hope to go down. 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: It's the trajectory that the Cardinals seemed to be going towards, 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: which is very exciting. So JG making the most of 72 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: this time and for Jocko Willing, he has on his 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: Instagram account he posts a photo of the watch that 74 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: JG wears, not his watch, but what Jocko willings own watch. 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: And it's always at like four in the morning, really 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: early on because he wants to say like, you got 77 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: to make the most of your day, so get started early. 78 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: And many coaches do that regardless of the profession, but 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the NFL coaches their day start before 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: the sun comes up. You're talking four am, five am, 81 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: getting in early and then staying late. And the players 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: adopt that as well, because again everyone wants to be 83 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: successful on Sunday for. 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: And even when it comes to the players. I mean, 85 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: Michael Carter just spoke about earlier on in the week 86 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: when he was out in the locker room for the 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: open media, for the open media portion of the end 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: of the day, and he said that he flew in 89 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: at eleven thirty, landed in Arizona, and by five thirty 90 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: six o'clock he was already in the facility going through 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: physicals and doing everything that he could do to get 92 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: acclimated into the system. So it extends from the coaching 93 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: staff all the way down to the players. That's the 94 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: that's the emphasis on accountability that JG and Monty have 95 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: certainly emphasized. 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: You bring up Michael Carter, the Cardinals brand new running back, 97 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: which leads us into this discussion. As far as Week eleven, 98 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Texans Sunday eleven am, Arizona time, six thirty. 99 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: Pre game coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. 100 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: A little bit later on, we'll dive deeper into the 101 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: matchup with Drew Doherty, Texan's TV host for Houston Texans 102 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: dot Com, had a chance to speak to him earlier 103 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: in the week. We'll get to the injuries momentarily, not 104 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: too much clarity as we speak here on this Friday 105 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: as of yet. But Michael Carter is an interesting, I 106 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: won't say interesting case study, but interesting player this week. 107 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: You arrive late, you get one day of practice plus 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: a Saturday walkthrough. Is that enough time to be on 109 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: the field or is he inactive? I have a feeling 110 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: because we have seen this before at the running back position. 111 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: Once upon a time Kenyan Drake arrived late played that week. 112 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if Carter is active and does 113 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: have a role Based off how Carter was reacting to 114 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: questions from the media about the playbook conversations he had 115 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: had with Gannon, he just had this look in his 116 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: eye like I'm ready. Well, he said, I'm ready, but 117 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: that he is itching to get back on the football 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: field to show everyone, i e. The Jets what they 119 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: missed in letting him go. And then there's a report 120 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: that perhaps maybe he asked for his release as well. 121 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: But bottom line, a fresh start and he's looking forward 122 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: to starting his career with the Cardinals, and I do 123 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: think it starts this week in Houston. 124 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: He said, as he was waiting to find his new 125 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: team on Wednesday, it was the first practice he might 126 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: have missed him his entire life. And Thursday we did 127 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: see him during the open portion on the field, but 128 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: he's listing to injury report as rest, which he could 129 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 3: have just been going through typical drills with the training 130 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: staff just to get acclimated to the system, not actually 131 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: a participant in practice, as we were able to see 132 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: during the open media portion. But Michael Carter seems to 133 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: be the type of player that wants to get out 134 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: there and right away wants to make an impact, and 135 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: he has that chip on his shoulder we were able 136 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: to see over the previous few seasons with the New 137 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: York Jets, he did have success. His teammates spoke very 138 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: highly of him down there in New York. They were 139 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: kind of surprised to see him depart from the team. 140 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: And now he's got a new opportunity here, and he 141 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: came into a knowing of James Connor because everyone said, 142 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: you have to reach out to James Connor and to 143 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: be in that running to be in that running back 144 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: room with him with a Marigi Mercado with Keante definitely 145 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: could make some noise back there. Keante has not had 146 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: much success so far this season the backup running backs 147 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: in a lot of cases, Amar had success when he 148 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: was RB one in place with James Connor, whoever has 149 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: been RB one has had success. RB two and RB 150 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: three not as much success. So Michael Carter could come 151 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: in and kind of shift that direction. 152 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: A little bit. 153 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: And with de Mercado still dealing with that toe injury, 154 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: he's been limited this week in practice, which is a 155 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: good sign that he's on the practice field. But you 156 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: have James Connor, who there's a lot of people would 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: like to see him get more touches. I think he 158 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: played very well in his return last week. Does he 159 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: get more touches as he gets back into football shape 160 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: as far as the conditioning to play more snaps on 161 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: a game day or is it something like you need 162 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: that one two punch to make sure you're not riding 163 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: your RB one into the ground and have that change 164 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: of pace back. I'm curious about Carter in third down houses, 165 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: pass blocking, the pass protection as far as making sure 166 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: that you have someone because that's where de Mercado has 167 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: shined and been the better third down back. Because you 168 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: want James Connor for the typical or the traditional running 169 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: downs on first and second. 170 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think Demercado's workload is going to 171 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: exponentially go down with the addition of Carter because Carter 172 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: was successful in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. 173 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty three has not worked out his favor, but 174 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: he did have pretty solid first two years in the NFL. 175 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: James Connor is the running back that you could put 176 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: down for all three downs and he can make the 177 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: most of it, but you don't want to run him 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: into the ground. You don't want to burn him out. 179 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: In that running back position, there's constantly turnover. That's why 180 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: the Cardinals have gone through what is it six or 181 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: seven different running backs so far this season. I mean, 182 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: in terms of signing players to the practice squad elevating 183 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: them to the active roster. You had Damian Williams, Corey Clement, 184 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: Tony Jones Junior. Those are just the Those are just 185 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: three right there that were solely on the practice squad 186 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: and we're elevated to the active roster. Then you had 187 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: Amari James Keante. That's six, and then Michael Carter is 188 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: going to be the seven. See I know how to count, 189 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: but I think that you would you would assume that 190 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: Michael Carter that they saw something in him, and they 191 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: saw a dual threat. As Jonathan Gannon told the media 192 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: on Friday, he could go out there in pass protection 193 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: and do well. He could make some couple catches if needed, 194 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 3: and get out into open space. He's also a really 195 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 3: good running back, clearly why they brought him in. So 196 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: there's there's opportunities for him. 197 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: Again, the question is there going to be an opportunity 198 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: this Sunday. My guess, just my own personal guests, that 199 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: there will be an opportunity for him. Looking at some 200 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: of the other key players that potentially could be back 201 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: this week. DJ Humphries an ankle issue, limited in practice, 202 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: Tristan Cologne caf issue limited in practice this week. So 203 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: there's your starting left tackle and potentially starting left guard. 204 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: But considering how much there was praise from both the 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: head coach Andrew Petzing about Carter O'Donnell, does he get 206 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: a second straight start at left guard this week? If 207 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: that has been a nice revolving door, three different starting 208 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: left guards in three weeks, four different starters overall, can 209 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: you solidify that spot and have your best five? Who 210 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: are those best five? For that five man offensive line. 211 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: And I think with how well Carter O'Donnell's played, you 212 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: have to start looking at. Is Elijah Wilkinson when he 213 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: is elevated, when he's activated off the ir in his 214 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: twenty one day practice windows open, he's detinately brought back 215 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: onto the team. If that does happen, does he even 216 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: have his starting job back? That's a fair question. Because 217 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: Cardo o'donald did play well. They spoke very highly of 218 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: Dennis Daly as well, and somehow, some way they must 219 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: have seen something during the week of practice for Carter 220 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 3: o'donald to get those first team reps in last week's 221 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 3: win against the Falcons. So Tristan Colone did well in 222 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 3: Elijah Wilkinson's absence. But once again, the injuries, you never 223 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: want them to happen, But he gives opportunities for other 224 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: players to step up. That's what Carter o'donald has done 225 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: so far. The first few games he was inactive, he 226 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: was on the sidelines. He wasn't even suited up in 227 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: a jersey. Now he's getting out there and he's making 228 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: the most of it. 229 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's flip it over to the defensive line. 230 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: Jonathan Ledbetter, dealing with a shoulder injury, did not practice 231 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: Wednesday or Thursday, was spotted though during the open portion 232 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: watching his teammates on Thursday. We'll see what happens on Friday. 233 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: But again, when you typically don't practice the entire week, 234 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: outside of maybe a Buddha Baker, very hard to get 235 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: on the football field on a Sunday. Is Ledbetter one 236 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: of those players that is capable of missing an entire 237 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: week of practice and then playing. If you do not 238 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: have Ledbetter, that's a huge loss. And another position group 239 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: you talk about running backs and how many different running backs, well, 240 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: defensive line has gone through its share of injuries and 241 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: season ending injuries in all likelihood with LJ. Collier and 242 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins. You just hope that led Beetter, who's been 243 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: the best defensive lineman healthy defensive lineman, If it's not 244 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: this week, then it's more of a short term dealing 245 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: with that shoulder issue, and if he misses week eleven, 246 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: he's back. 247 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: Week twelve, and that's what you have to hope for. 248 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: You obviously hope for him to be back week eleven, 249 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: but if we twelve is the next best, then you'll 250 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: take that because you want him to be healthy out there. 251 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he'll play this week. A big 252 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: part of it will be to see his practice designation 253 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: on Friday, and there will also be a game status 254 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: that will be released as well on Friday. So either 255 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: his game status is going to be out, doubt for, 256 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: or questionable, and it's going to be one of those three. 257 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: There's a chance that there's some gamesmanship being played in 258 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: terms of of they'll put him as questionable or doubtful, 259 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: they won't fully release, they won't fully announce him as 260 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: being out. But that's a group that has had a 261 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: lot of injuries, has dealt with a lot of injuries, 262 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: and whether it's been Jonathan Ledbetter or Kevin Strong, they 263 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: both have appeared on the injury report quite a bit, 264 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: Jonathan led Better from week four through week seven and 265 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: then Kevin Strong from week seven through week nine. Last 266 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: week was the first time since Week one that either 267 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 3: one of them was not on the injury report and 268 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: or week three rather, and to see Jonathan Ledberter get 269 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 3: back on it, it's such a shame because he's been 270 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: doing such a really solid job and injuries are the 271 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: unfortunate part of the game. You hope that he's able 272 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: to get out there though, because he definitely is one 273 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: of those players that has made the most of their 274 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: opportunities this season. Ber Gang, if you're not aware, and 275 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: if you haven't followed on Acycardinals dot com, if you 276 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: can't tell by how well Zach is and I'm gonna 277 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: say memorize him. But the recall on the injury report, 278 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: it's basically what Zach does. I mean, it's not all 279 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: that you do, but that's still open. You do a 280 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: little more, but that's your main role. Now I'm gonna 281 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: see main role, but that's part of you what you 282 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: do Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, as far as that injury report, 283 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 3: as far as not just the Cardinals but the opponent 284 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: as well exactly and when they when it comes in, 285 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: it's kind of the clearest indication of what we're going 286 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: to see potentially for Sunday. So whether you're interested about 287 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: your favorite players and if they're going to be healthy 288 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: or not ahead of the game, that's the place to 289 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: go on Asycardinals dot com or to follow me on 290 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: Twitter at Zach Asy Cards got to give it a 291 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: plug this week though, it's to look at how many 292 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: players they have as limited is something that in most 293 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: cases it might not be encouraging for other teams. It's 294 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: encouraging for the Cardinals to see Tristan Cologne and Amar 295 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: de Mercado and Dj Humphreys, who were all out last week, 296 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: to see them as limited. It steps in the right direction. 297 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: JG preaches that these players are trending in the right direction. 298 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: If they are trending in the right direction, so far, 299 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: it seems like this this team outside of Ledbetter, Joey Blunt, 300 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: Zach Pascal. As of those outside of those three, right now, 301 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: it seems like the Cardinals are trending in the right 302 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: direction in that front. So we'll see what happens on 303 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: Sunday again, Cardinals at the Texans eleven AM kickoff six 304 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: thirty Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network 305 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: right now. As I mentioned earlier, had a chance to 306 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: speak with Houston Texans TV host Drew Doherty about the 307 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: matchup on Sunday, and obviously, going into this game, the 308 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: number one storyline in Houston is quarterback CJ. 309 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: Stroud. 310 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: He's nine games in, so I asked Drew just how 311 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: big of a surprise is what Stroud is doing. Because 312 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: he's a rookie quarterback. 313 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: It's a surprise, but a mild one if he's kind 314 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: of been around these parts. And what you've seen this 315 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: is a I think a perfect marriage of excellent young quarterback, 316 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: excellent young offensive coordinator pieces around him, you know, rising 317 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: to the floor, and a good head coach, an excellent 318 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: young head coach as well, and so it's all sort 319 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: of stewing together in this like delicious gumbo that we're 320 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: seeing through really the half of the season. They reached 321 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: their halfway point when they're at the half time last 322 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: Sunday in Cincinnati. And he's very clean with the football. 323 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: But usually you hear that and you think, Okay, well 324 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: the guy's throwing short stuff and they're running the ball 325 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: all the time. Well, he's not doing that. He has 326 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: been incredibly explosive. He had eight completions of twenty yards 327 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 4: or more on Sunday against the Bengals. The week before 328 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: he had nine completions of twenty yards or more. And 329 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: he's finding a variety of guys to throw it too. 330 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: You've heard the name Tank Dell. He's got one hundred 331 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: yard game this season, you've heard about Nico Collins. He too, 332 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: as one hundred yard game this season, so is tight 333 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: end Dalton Schultz, so has Noah Brown. So I mean 334 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: he spread it around and kind of unlocked a bunch 335 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 4: of different guys and made this offense incredibly explosive. 336 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: I read earlier on Houston Texans dot Com those very 337 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: same numbers in addition, how well CJ is on third 338 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: and fourth down and then also in the fourth quarter 339 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: where early matters most, and those third and fourth downs 340 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: and then the fourth quarter that that sometimes takes a 341 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: young player, let alone a young quarterback time to build to. 342 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Yet here we are nine games in and he's already 343 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: leading the league or among the best doing it in 344 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: those situations. 345 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been incredibly refreshing. It's been awesome to see. 346 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 4: I mean, he's not just doing it well for a rookie, 347 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 4: he's doing it well for you know, a multi time MVP. 348 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: You see you see guys like who've done a whole 349 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 4: lot more and have a whole lot more experience in 350 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: the league, kind of like what you just alluded to, 351 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: not have that sort of success. So, yeah, he's been 352 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 4: nails late in games when you needed him. I mean, 353 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: you guys just took care of the Falcons last weekend. 354 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 4: The Texans played Atlanta earlier this season in Atlanta, and 355 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 4: you know, when j Stroud left the field for the 356 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 4: final time, he had just given the Texans a lead. 357 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: Now the defense was not able to kind of close 358 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: it down, and Atlanta came down and kicked the game 359 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 4: winning field goal. But he left the field with ane 360 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 4: and we had seen that quite a bit around these parts, 361 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: you know, in the Deshaun Watson era and so on 362 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 4: and so forth. But he kind of is he's kind 363 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 4: of right of that ship, so to speak, in two 364 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 4: games the last two weeks where he's led them late 365 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 4: and they've closed it out and been able to win 366 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 4: the ballgame. And it's been really really. 367 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: Fun the pieces around him. Just last week, no Damian Pierce, 368 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: yet Devin Singletary had a career day in his named 369 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: AFC Offensive Player of the Week. No Nico Collins, but 370 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: Noah Brown has a career day. You alluded to the 371 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: number of different receivers who have had one hundred yard games. 372 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: Is there a go to player outside of the quarterback 373 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: in this offense? 374 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and the go to guy is all 375 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 4: those guys I just mentioned. I mean, he kind of 376 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: spins the wheel. I do a TV show every week 377 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: here about the Texans, kind of previewing the game and 378 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: the last months pretty much every first segment in the 379 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 4: middle part of it, I have a question, Okay, let's 380 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 4: spin the wheel. Who's the pass catcher going to be 381 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 4: this week? You know there's a veteran in Robert Woods 382 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: who he was injured a few weeks back, and he 383 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: came back and played last weekend. I guarantee you he's 384 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: going to have one hundred yard game or two or 385 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 4: three or more this season because he's gonna get his 386 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: number called. He's going to get some some touches. Xavier 387 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 4: Hutchinson is another rookie like Dell. I mean, this guy 388 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 4: was an All American at Iowa State. Last week. He's 389 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 4: slowly been integrated into the offense a little bit more 390 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: week by week by week. He's actually carried the ball 391 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: quite a bit on end of rounds and he's been 392 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 4: successful with that. But there's that kind of coming time 393 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: when Hutchinson gets called upon, you know, to catch some 394 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: passes and I could see him breaking out. It's just 395 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 4: been a beautiful thing to see, and I suppose if 396 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 4: he had a go to receiver, you would maybe lean 397 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: towards Tank Dell. He's been targeted quite a bit. I 398 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: guess if you had to say that that that's the 399 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: guy that gets to the lion's share of the targets. 400 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 4: You know, he's got fifty seven, that's tops on the team. 401 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: Right behind him as Dalton Schultz at fifty six, and 402 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: then right behind him is Nico Collins with fifty three, 403 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: and Nico missed the game. So I just I just 404 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 4: reeled off three guys who were within, you know, four 405 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 4: targets of each other on the season. 406 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: And Tank, another rookie, third round pick out of Houston, 407 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: by the way, teammates with Cardinals backup quarterback Clayton Tune. 408 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: Another rookie. As we continue to talk about this Houston 409 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: Texans team, and that is on the defensive side of 410 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: the ball, at least for us here Drew, it's looking 411 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: at Will Anderson what could have been if the Cardinals 412 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: didn't trade the number number three overall pick. How has 413 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: Anderson looked so far this season? 414 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 4: He's been awesome. You know, Demico Ryans really wanted to 415 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: establish some things on defense, and you got to have 416 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: a good pass rush and you got to be great 417 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 4: up in the trenches to make that happen. And Will 418 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: Anderson has been really, really good. He's by all the metrics. 419 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: You know, he's not getting the old school, hardcore sack numbers, 420 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: and they want that to improve. He wants that to improve. 421 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 4: But otherwise he's getting to the pass, so he's causing 422 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: a lot of pressure. He's been outstanding and defending the 423 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: run and he's doing all the right things. This guy 424 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 4: was voted a team captain by his teammates. Now that's 425 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: incredibly rare. 426 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: C J. 427 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 4: Stroud also voted a team captain by his teammates. So 428 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 4: he came in and has helped sort of reinforce and 429 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 4: helped establish sort of a new identity in the locker 430 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: room and new culture in the locker room. He's been 431 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 4: all they've asked for and more. 432 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: By the way, Drigi, the Texans aren't doing us any 433 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: favors by being five and four so far this season, 434 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: but you. 435 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, yeah, they You know, he was interesting when 436 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 4: that happened, When that trade happened. The next day, second 437 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 4: round is going on, and we were up in the 438 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 4: offices before the second round started, and yeah, there were 439 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 4: some people that are that were pretty confident back then, 440 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: before they even like took a tank Dell, and before 441 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 4: they added some guys in free agency that would wind 442 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 4: up coming here and helping out. They were very, very 443 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 4: confident and very comfortable in saying, you know, we think 444 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: the Texans pick is going to be better than the 445 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: Browns pick, meaning it's going to be higher and you know, 446 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: further up the line. I don't know that they thought 447 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: they were going to be this great, but I think 448 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 4: they had a lot of confidence that they were just, 449 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: no matter what, gonna be better than the Browns, we're 450 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 4: gonna be this season. 451 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Kind Of similar here with the Cardinals now that Kyler 452 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: Murray is back. Yeah, the record doesn't look great, but 453 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: one to zero with K one on the football field, 454 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: So there is some film at least one game's worth, 455 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: and then there's film of him in the previous four seasons. 456 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: But what are the Texans concerned about with Kyler back 457 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: at quarterback? 458 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all very respectful of them. They know what 459 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 4: he can do. They know this is not a two 460 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 4: and eight team. You really kind of have to throw 461 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 4: that record out when you just look at the matchup 462 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: and what you're gonna do on Sunday. And then complicating 463 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: things is the new offense that he's in this Like, 464 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 4: you know, it's not Cliff Kingsbury's air raid, so you 465 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 4: don't really have as much tape and there's a lot 466 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: more wrinkles you can probably see. So they're very respectful 467 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 4: of Kyler Murray. And listen, everybody knows if you have 468 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 4: any connection to the state of Texas, everybody knows about him. 469 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: I mean, there's you gotta have a really strong argument 470 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 4: to name somebody other than Martin Murray as the greatest 471 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 4: high school player in the history of this state. And 472 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: that's staying a hell of a lot because I mean, 473 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 4: we were very prideful and we think Texas high school 474 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: football is the best high school football round and that 475 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 4: guy's probably the best to ever do it. So they 476 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: know what he's capable of. They are not getting sleepy 477 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 4: on anybody, per in particular him. 478 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: It was just one game. But what about Trey McBride 479 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: and his performance last week? A couple of weeks back, 480 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: he had ninety five receiving yards, but the Texans trying 481 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: to cover him a tight end who can go deep 482 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: but also go underneath. 483 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it looks like you guys got to 484 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 4: keep her there in a real building block no matter 485 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: what happens around him the rest of the time there. 486 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: That guy's really really good. Tight ends have been they've 487 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 4: done okay against the Texans this year at times, so 488 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 4: that's certainly going to be something to focus on. You know, 489 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: we saw the Denzel Perryman suspension get waxed down from 490 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: three games to two, but he's still out for this game, 491 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 4: and that's too bad because he's one of your best 492 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 4: players on defense. He's one of your leaders on defense, 493 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: and he's somebody that can kind of help out in 494 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: that regard. So Blake Cashman, who's been having an excellent 495 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 4: season the linebacker, he's going to get called upon quite 496 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 4: a bit and will probably have to be really sticky 497 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: in coverage. Look out for him. Look out for Jalen 498 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: Petrie number five, one of the leaders on this defense. 499 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 4: He's one of the captains. No, Jimmy Ward is a 500 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 4: safety that you guys are familiar with from his time 501 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 4: in San Francisco for all those years. So there's some 502 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 4: mixing and matching that's going to go on and there's 503 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: some guys that will have to step up behind the 504 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: ones that have been been injured, and some guys will 505 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 4: kind of have to step up that have been out 506 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 4: there already. 507 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: It is a defense that is much better against the 508 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: run than the pass, at least according to the numbers. 509 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: But the last question I have for you is the 510 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: head coach, Damiko Ryans and how much their defense is 511 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: a reflection of him his time with the forty nine ers. 512 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's definitely so much better. I mean, I 513 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: joke when he signed and was in the building back 514 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 4: in late January when it was official, it was like 515 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 4: mouth to mouth resuscitation for the entire franchise, not just 516 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: the defense, not the offense, not the football team, all 517 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: of those, plus everybody on the business side, the fan base, 518 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 4: the city. I mean, it's been a dark, dark four years, 519 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 4: and really before that, even when the Texans were winning 520 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: divisions in fifteen and sixteen and eighteen and nineteen, it 521 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: just wasn't the same as sort of the love and 522 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: the fun that was going on here for a brief 523 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 4: stint in eleven and twelve when they went to the 524 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 4: playoffs those years. Demiko was a part of that first 525 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 4: team in twenty eleven and then he went to Philadelphia 526 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 4: after that, but he has been an absolute difference maker. 527 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 4: This team was atrocious against the run really starting in 528 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, that last playoff team that the Texans had, 529 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: and he slipped that around. I mean he didn't just 530 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: go take them from like thirty second at twenty fourth. 531 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 4: I mean they've made strides, leaps and bounds in that 532 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: category and so you know they're gonna have their hands 533 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 4: full with Connor. He's looks like from the outside, I 534 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 4: don't follow the Cardinals like you do, but he looks 535 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: a guy to strike at the ball more, you know, 536 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: averaging five point two a cliff And I'm guessing they've 537 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: been behind in some situations and can't do that. But yeah, 538 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 4: they know their hands will be full with Connor. But man, 539 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 4: the run defense has been turned around by Demico Ryans, 540 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: his defensive coordinator, Matt Burke and the rest. 541 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Matt Burke former Cardinals defensive line coach, so 542 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: familiar with a lot of the Cardinals personnel heading into 543 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: Sunday's game. Eleven am is the kickoff Arizona Time Cardinals 544 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: two and eight, Texans five and four Drew good stuff. 545 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, and uh, well I can't say good luck 546 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: on Sunday, but best of luck the rest of the 547 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: way post week eleven. 548 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 4: Right back at you, my friend, and I appreciate you 549 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: having me on. 550 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: Good stuff there from Drew. And yeah, a win on 551 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: Sunday Once upon a time, I think we would have 552 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: been a double victory for the Cardinals. Still is you 553 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: get a win and then based off the draft that 554 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have the Houston Texans first round pick. Cardinals 555 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: went two straight wins and then you knocked the Texans 556 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: down a peg or in this case, if you're talking 557 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: about draft status, up a couple of pegs. But right now, 558 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: if the season we're in today, which does not, Texans 559 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: pick number twenty and that would go to the Cardinals 560 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: in that Will Anderson deal. 561 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: Listen, a first round pick is still a first round pick, obviously. 562 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: I think a lot of analysts in the national media 563 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: we're saying before the season began, the Cardinals are gonna 564 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: have the first and second overall pick. Well, that does 565 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: not seem to be the case, especially with Kyler Murray 566 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: coming back and how committed this team is to winning. 567 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: I heard and when bj did sideline exchange with Danny. 568 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: He said, we want to win out and make it 569 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: to the playoffs. Kayzer White said the same exact thing 570 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: to the media on Thursday at in front of his locker. 571 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 3: What if we went out This team is not thinking 572 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: about the NFL Draft right now. They don't care. They 573 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 3: care about winning games, and at two and eight, it's 574 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: tough to sometimes have that mindset. When I asked Kaizier 575 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: about he said, we don't waiver. That's our thought process. 576 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 3: No matter how the season goes, we go out there 577 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: to win football games. And the Cardinals did that last 578 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 3: week against the Falcons. They would have loved to do 579 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: that again, to go down to Houston and do the 580 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: same exact thing. You take the Texans down a couple 581 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: spots to benefit the Cardinals a little bit, and the 582 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 3: Cardinals would love to continue rising up the draft board 583 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: because then they know that they're translating to wins. 584 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals coming off a twenty five twenty three win over 585 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: the Falcons, can they make it two in a row? 586 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: A lot of that will be trying to contain C. J. 587 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: Stroud And interesting enough, the Cardinals, you talk about draft status. 588 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: Paris Johnson the sixth overall pick out of Ohio State. Well, 589 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: where did CJ. Stroud go to school? Ohio State? Your 590 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: favorite school in the Big Ten? I know, and teammates 591 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: now getting to see one another for the first time 592 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: as professionals, and I know you had a chance to 593 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: speak to Paris this week not only about that, but 594 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: just his season overall, this U this year and how 595 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: well the season began a little bit of a struggle 596 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: and then he kind of rided the ship last week 597 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: against the Falcons. 598 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: Yes, and to go back even a little bit, that's 599 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: gonna be the first time that Paris and CJ have 600 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: seen each other since the draft. Paris said, so to 601 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: see her, as Paris referred him, you see your family 602 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: back there. It's gonna be very exciting for for the 603 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: rookie right tackle. I asked Nick Rollis, the defensive coordinator, 604 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: when everyone was asking him questions about how do you 605 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: prepare for CJ. Stroud? Recognizing that connection between the two 606 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: of them, I was like, do you not ask Paris? 607 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: And he goes, I guess you could. There's connections all 608 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: across and Clayton has the connection as you inform me 609 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: with Tank Dell, and it there's connections all throughout the NFL. 610 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 3: I mean the Texans, they have Josh Jones, they have 611 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: my j Sanders. There's also connections to the Arizona Cardinals 612 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: as well. So it's when I when I was talking 613 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: with Paris he said to me, I was like, I 614 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: was like, do you tell the defense. He's like, ah see, 615 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: it's tough because it's business, but that's also my family 616 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: back there. And I think I kind of gave him 617 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: a look like no, you tell Nick. You tell Nick 618 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: Rlis what everything we need to know. But overall, Paris 619 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: Johnson Jr. Has really started to Johnathangan and said he 620 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: found his sweet spot when it comes to watching tape 621 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: over and that's what ultimately allowed him to have such 622 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: a good game against the Falcons. He knows why he's 623 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: here with the Arizona Cardinals. He pointed right over to 624 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray's locker and he said, it's to protect him, 625 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: and we hold each other accountable to each other's goals 626 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: are aspirations and so far so it's been pretty solid 627 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: for Paris Johnson Junior. It's kind of been peaks and 628 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: valleys and every rookie's going to have that at certain 629 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: points unless you are CJ. Stroud, who seems to be 630 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: just on an upwards trajectory. But as Drew Ptson said, 631 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: he comes back to work the next day and he's 632 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: ready to go. 633 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Paris has started all ten games. In fact, he has 634 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: not missed a single snap, the only offensive lineman who 635 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: has not missed a snap this season. He is anchoring 636 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: the rights. You got DJ Humphreys perhaps potentially coming back 637 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: this week to anchor the left side. But seeing Paris excel, 638 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: I want, maybe not excel, but have his moments this 639 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: season like last week against the Falcons to where yeah, 640 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: there are growing pains, but what you see out of 641 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: him early is okay, he's getting it, and when he 642 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: does struggle, he understands where those struggles are looking back 643 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: at film now learning what he has to be watching 644 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: for looking at that film and then working to correct 645 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: it for the next game. 646 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: And Kyler Murray right now, he's your QB one and 647 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: that's what Paris Johnson Junior knows. It's no longer is 648 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: it going to be Joshua Dobbs or Clayton Tune or 649 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: when is Kyler Murray coming back? What you have right 650 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: now is what you're hopefully going to get for the 651 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 3: rest of the season. He knows that. That's why he 652 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: was assigned this task, so to seriously evaluate the tape 653 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: from that first game or to first game back with 654 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray to see how he's done over the previous seasons. 655 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: He took it to the chick a little bit as 656 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: to how they had to respond after Cleveland and to 657 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: come back in the game against the Falcons to find 658 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: that sweet spot. The fact that he found that sweet 659 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: spot ten games in, some people might say that's a 660 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: little bit too late. It's better than next season when 661 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: he's hitting that second year route. So the fact that 662 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: he founded this early on, it's definitely encouraging. And he's 663 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: playing with the chip on his shoulder. He knows that 664 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: he's going to be going against Will Anderson in a 665 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: lot of cases. The two of them went against each 666 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: other in high school at the All America Bowl, and 667 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: he said to me, I asked him about that that 668 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: trade Houston traded with the Cardinals for that third overall 669 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 3: pick to draft Will Anderson. Paris Johnson Junior was projected 670 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: to go in that third spot. He ultimately went into six. 671 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: Cardinals still got him and he said in that room, 672 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 3: I did have a chip on my shoulder, but that 673 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 3: chip has led me to a blocking for Kyler Murray. 674 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: Will Anderson two sacks, three tackles for loss, eleven quarterback 675 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: hits so far this season for the Texans, who were 676 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 3: five and four, second in the AFC South, just one 677 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: game behind the Jaguars right now, which is a stunning 678 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: turnaround considering whether this Texans team was a year ago, 679 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: but brand new head coach, brand new quarterback, and they 680 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: are playing very good football. Cardinals last week played very 681 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: good football upon Kyler Murray's return. Now it's a different return. 682 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 3: It's a return to the road. Second start, but first 683 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: on the road. And that opens up the next box 684 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: to check, as far as the operations, pre snap penalties, 685 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: How you get in the play, call in from the sideline, 686 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: How you relaying that to your teammates, because Kyler usually 687 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: it's all about hand signals. Well that's no longer the case. 688 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: You got that wristband, you're looking, you're reading, and then 689 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: you got to describe that to your teammates now in 690 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: an road environment. And my guess is it's going to 691 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: be loud on Sunday because the Texans have earned that 692 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: right based off their record to have fans come out 693 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: and cheer for them. 694 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 3: Yes, they haven't. The fans have done a really solid 695 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: job down there in Houston. And I don't think it's 696 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: as much Kyler Murray playing on the road. It goes 697 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: back to that point is how he operates on the road. 698 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 3: The execution is going to be there in terms of 699 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray's skill set and his preparation. It's just a 700 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 3: matter of the avoiding the pre snap penalties. Kyler had 701 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: a false start, he had the delay of game against 702 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: the Falcons. You want to try to minimize those a 703 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: little bit. Now you're going to have those, but you're 704 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: just going to be on the road, so you got 705 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: to be able to limit them to the best of 706 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: the ability. It's not like Kyler Murray doesn't know how 707 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 3: to get on a plane and travel to a new 708 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: city and stay in a hotel and then play the 709 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 3: next day. Kyler Murray's done that all throughout his college 710 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 3: and NFL career and even in high school. Because Texas 711 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: is just built like that. So it's nothing that Kyler 712 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 3: is unfamiliar with. It's just going to be a matter 713 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: when you look over to the sidelines. You're not going 714 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 3: to be seeing people with hand signals. You're going to 715 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: be looking down in your wristband saying what's exactly our 716 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: play and what are we going to be able to 717 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 3: do to get around this Texans defense? 718 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: And his number one target last week, Trey McBride, Will 719 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: that be the number one target this week? Or does 720 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: that connection with Hollywood Brown kind of pick a steam 721 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: after he was targeted a belief four times but just 722 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: had the one catch. With McBride, It's okay, you had 723 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty one receiving yards last week. Everyone noticed. 724 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: Now you're on the scouting report. You've been on the 725 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: scouting report, but maybe now more so. 726 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 2: So. 727 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: What's the how do you react to how now defenses 728 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: a the Texans defend the tight end position this week. 729 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: The beautiful thing about the Arizona Cardinals offense, despite the record, 730 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 3: is that they do have so many weapons out there, 731 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: they just all have not been able to be out 732 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 3: there at the same time. That's been the key thing. 733 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: When James Connor went down, the play action game was 734 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 3: completely turned around. The Cardinals were atop of the league 735 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 3: until he got really injured against the Bengals, and that's 736 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: when it all started to shift. Now you have Kyler 737 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 3: Murray back there, you don't have Zach Ertz, and I 738 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: understand that Trey McBride's starting to overtake him a little 739 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: bit for being that tight end one spot going back 740 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 3: to the injuries, as we spoke about with Elijah Wilkins 741 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 3: in interest in Cohen at that left guard spot. I 742 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 3: do think that Trey McBride is gonna a little bit 743 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: more on the scouting report. But if he does, that 744 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: opens up opportunities to go to Hollywood Brown. And even 745 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 3: if Hollywood Brown's covered up, you know he has a 746 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 3: good relationship with Rondell Moore. He's gonna try hitting Rondell 747 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 3: Moore on a lot of those flat and stale and 748 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 3: a lot of those flat and slant routes up the middle. 749 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: So and if those are shut down, great, you've got 750 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 3: James Connor to go through the middle. So they have 751 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: all the options out there, as Trey McBride gonna be 752 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: the number one target again potentially because you could see 753 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: that it works, it's approven, it's a proven formula. Is 754 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: he gonna go for one hundred and thirty one yards? 755 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 3: You gotta hope so. But even if he doesn't, if 756 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: that means that Hollywood Brown goes from more than twenty 757 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 3: eight yards on that one catch he has, you're balancing 758 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 3: it out a little bit more. 759 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: I have to respect the tight end position a few 760 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: of the Texans, and that's kind of been a little 761 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: bit of an issue for Houston this season, is defending 762 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: the tight end. They have allowed the second most receptions, 763 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: sixth most receiving yards, and tied for the third most 764 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns to tight ends. And keep in mind that 765 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: they will not have linebacker Denzel Perryman. He's been suspended 766 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: three games games reduced to two for repeated violations of 767 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: playing rules intended to protect health and safety of players. 768 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: So you miss out on having a linebacker in there, 769 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: which maybe now Blake Cashman has to do a little 770 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: bit more, and that takes him away from maybe being 771 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: in the box and figuring out what you're doing from 772 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: the running game and stopping the run, because that's where 773 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: this Texans defense has been better at, is handled I 774 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: won't say stopping but handling the run. Their top ten 775 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: against the pass, They are number twenty. 776 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 3: Four in the league exactly and that's where that play 777 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: action is going to go into play, because you're going 778 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: to assume that the Cardinals are going to go in 779 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 3: very pass heavy, but to have the ability to hand 780 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 3: the ball off to James Connor or to run a 781 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 3: play action or a read option or whatever it is, 782 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: we saw Kyler Murray was not limited in any stretch. 783 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 3: So even though the Texans have been solid at stopping 784 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: the run, Kyler Murray's a different running quarterback, especially because 785 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 3: we see him now that he's healthy. I'm sure he's not. 786 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 3: He doesn't look exactly the same, but there's a lot 787 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 3: of similarities to how he looked before the injury. I mean, 788 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 3: his speed of twenty one miles per on that third 789 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 3: down scramble was his best since twenty twenty one. So 790 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 3: to see him get out there and to know that 791 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 3: you had that opportunity, it has to keep the Houston 792 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 3: defense on their toes a little bit. 793 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: What else about this matchup that you like or you 794 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: will be focusing on Sunday, whether that's on either side 795 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: of the ball against whether it's the Cardinals or the Texans. 796 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 3: The explosive battle continuously hurts the Cardinals and the Houston 797 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 3: Texans are top the NFL in the exposive play battle 798 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 3: now a lot of their players. Twenty players are currently 799 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: on the injury report for the Houston Texans. Just to 800 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 3: go back to that a little bit, A top of 801 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 3: that list is Noah Brown, the Texans wide receiver who 802 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 3: finished with one hundred and seventy two yards in Week ten. 803 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 3: And while Trey McBride had a great game at one 804 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty one, we were still wondering if he 805 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: was on to get over that one hundred yard thresh mark. 806 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 3: I mean, Noah Brown did that in an incredible fashion, 807 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: so to go from him, and there were so many 808 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 3: other opportunities. CJ. Stroud throws the ball on the money, 809 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 3: as Nick Rolis said, actually when he knows what he 810 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 3: wants to do with the ball. And you sent the 811 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 3: stat over Craig of the eight pass plays of twenty 812 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 3: plus yards last week. So the explosive play battle has 813 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 3: hurt the Cardinals. They got to be able to play 814 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 3: tight defense. But as Buddha Baker said, the focus is 815 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: always going to be on the run first, no matter 816 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 3: how good CJ. Shroud is, It's all about the run. 817 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 3: In Devin Singletary, the Houston Texas running back was named 818 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 3: AFC Player of the Week for his one hundred and 819 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 3: fifty yard performance against the Bengals. So they have weapons 820 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: all around, Their quarterbacks great, their offensive line solid, their 821 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: weapons are solid on the outside, and obviously their running 822 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 3: back is really talented. So the defense has to be 823 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: on their heels all game and they got to be 824 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: ready to go. 825 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: Singletary, by the way, had two hundred and nine rushing 826 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: yards for the season before last week. Now with that 827 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: one point fifty, he's up to three point fifty nine. 828 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, you plug and play with the Texans. You 829 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: lose a Damian Pierce, Devin Singletary plays well and then 830 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: you lose a Nico Collins and what happens while Noah 831 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: Brown plays well one hundred and seventy two receiving yards. 832 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: So CJ. Stroud does have a number of weapons, and 833 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: it's up to the Cardinals defense to again, you take 834 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: one thing away to make an offense one dimensional, you 835 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: make them one dimensional with the pass game. Well, Stroud 836 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: has certainly shown that he's capable of beating you through 837 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: the air. 838 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 3: And it goes back to that balance that you hope 839 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 3: the Cardinals are able to execute well because although although 840 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 3: Singletary had one hundred and fifty yards, it was on 841 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 3: thirty rushing attempts. So he was their premiere back and 842 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 3: he was the one that kind of did it all. 843 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 3: But because you had to focus on him on the 844 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 3: run in those five yards he average per carry. That's 845 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 3: how c J. Strou was able to slice and die 846 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 3: the Bengals defense a little bit. So you just got 847 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 3: to be able to recognize that there is going to 848 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: be a deep ball threat that other quarterbacks this season 849 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 3: you face might not have had that, especially with Taylor 850 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 3: Heinike did not have that against with the Falcons Deshaun Watson. 851 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 3: There were a couple of plays on Marii Cooper, but 852 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 3: it was not fully there. The Cardinals have not really 853 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 3: had to face a deep Baull threat and a handful, 854 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 3: So now you know that you're gonna be going against 855 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 3: that and they have a really solid rushing game to 856 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 3: compliment it. 857 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Cardinals defense has allowed twenty five pass plays 858 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: of twenty or more yards. None of those happened last 859 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: week against the Falcons. But you talked about it. That 860 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: was a quarterback situation and then just an offense that 861 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 1: relies heavily on the ground game unfortunately for them. Fortunately 862 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, Arizona was able to get the win. 863 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: Can they get the win now on the road against 864 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: the Texans? Eleven am is the kickoff six thirty. Pre 865 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: game coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. And 866 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: it's been a good week, Zach. We began the week 867 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: with Zach Gershman here on Cardinals Cover two and we 868 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: end the week with Zach Gershman on Cardinals Cover two. 869 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 3: Sounds like a headache to me, but wow, and. 870 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna start next week with you as well. So 871 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: we're yes, Round two, Round two, and remember our deal. 872 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: We win, I gotta address. 873 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: Up there you go. Victory Monday becomes Zach Dress Up Day, Jack, 874 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: Zach Dress Update. Well, we'll have to paint the picture 875 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: here on this audio podcast. 876 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 3: On last we decided to go with you know, putting 877 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 3: the cameras on. Okay, oh no, Cody. 878 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: We'll have to see what happens on Sunday to figure 879 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 1: out if we get to see Zach in another full 880 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: suits or maybe just he comes in with a polo. 881 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: But hopefully again we're hoping for the full suits bring 882 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: it on, all right, Bring it on, Cardinals and Texans. 883 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 1: Can Arizona make it two straight wins with Kyler Murray 884 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: as their quarterback? We'll see and we'll discuss it on Monday. 885 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: And now, on that note, we'll put a lid on 886 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hundai, proud 887 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 888 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: our executive producer jem Mo Mohndre our associate producer Cody 889 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: Fincher for Zach Gershman, I'm Craig real Lou. We'll talk 890 00:42:50,280 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two. H