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Speaker 2: But of course she texted me, and then I texted

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00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: her back. I was like, Kristin, like I will never forget,

436
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: like the first time you hosted when I was here,

437
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 2: Like the thing you told me was enjoy it because

438
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: it's the funnest job in the world.

439
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: I remember when she said that to you, never forgot,

440
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: you know. We were talking when we were shooting pont Royal.

441
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 1: We were talking about this, and I remember like saying

442
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: to her like because she too, so got like a

443
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: send off like that, And I remember I not to

444
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: share too much about what we talked about, but I

445
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: was kind of I was kind of in my mind,

446
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: I was like your best friend and also as someone

447
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: who watches the show and enjoys the show and the

448
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: legacy of the show and felt you deserved it. I

449
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: was like, how do we make it so that he

450
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: gets like a good, nice moment, and like, I think,

451
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: I think that ultimately, in terms of the totality of

452
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: what it could have been, it probably was like beyond

453
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: your wildest dreams. I guess my question is with that, like,

454
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: does Arianna become de facto your favorite host of all time? Yeah,

455
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: there's no other answer.

456
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 2: Sorry, Kiky Palmer, Sorry you read for a while.

457
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: Sorry, Regina King. I loved how unselfish the whole thing was,

458
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like because it takes so

459
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: much confidence and like so much star quality to come

460
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: in there like her fourth time hosting and knowing you

461
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: felt on her, in her in her energy, the being

462
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: there with you that a her number one goal was

463
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: servicing that sketch, which meant honoring like what was happening

464
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: for you in it, and she was so there right

465
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: next to you. But be the like positivity she had

466
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: that she's gonna come back and do that so many

467
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: many other times, because not every host would be like, yeah,

468
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: let me give up the whole last sketch of this

469
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: six minutes of the time for this cast member. But

470
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: it was her and she did that. And it's not

471
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: only because she's a good friend. It's because she's a

472
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: really professional host who doesn't have like an ego about

473
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: her time now, which I think is like pretty cool

474
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: and worth calling out. And the fact that shar did

475
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: not have to walk her ass out there. No.

476
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 2: Oh in the share thing, well, okay, I'll get to

477
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: the share thing. I want to say. In terms of

478
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: the sketch itself, Like my only wish is that like

479
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: we hauld gotten like a bunch of other cast in there,

480
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: ideally the entire cast in there, because it is just

481
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: like me just like I don't know, not imparting anything,

482
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: but it's just like I just I want to be

483
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: there with like the other people. It did just come

484
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: down to logistics, like we did. We had like Mikey

485
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 2: and Sarah there in the back, just like cleaning up

486
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: the mess. Oh and so like the eggnog machine was

487
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 2: supposed to like be on the fritz and like spray everywhere.

488
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: It was supposed to spray Keene, it was supposed to

489
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: spray Jane. It was just supposed to spray the people

490
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: it was spraying. It just kind of got too much.

491
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: It got to be too much. And Lorne came up

492
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: to me and celest before before the show, after dress

493
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: and he was just like, I think it's better. It's

494
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: just you guys, and you just play into the emotion

495
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: of it. He was right, And then Celesti and I

496
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: were like, Lorne Michaels knows how to produce.

497
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: So Celeste came back to write that, So.

498
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: Le Us came back to write that. We wrote some

499
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: other stuff too. We wrote a share family Reunion, which

500
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm so sad.

501
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh this is a thing. Well, we'll get to share later.

502
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: This is the thing. You were still getting shit cut

503
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: at the end.

504
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: Of course, it's totally totally fine, not like, well you

505
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: can have this, but you can't have everything. I never

506
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: look and I'm always like yeah, yeah, yeah, like cut

507
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: my stuff, like Keanu still has his stuff cut. Yeah,

508
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: it's not a thing.

509
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: You don't. I don't necessarily you don't get a platinum

510
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: card at the show. No.

511
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: And my other thing was like there was like a

512
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 2: soft thing maybe where like I would get like there

513
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: was a designated like I was talking to Dismukes about

514
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: this and James Austin Johnson about this, like, it did

515
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: feel like I would get like there would be like

516
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 2: a designated Bowen spot and then the list of list

517
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: of picks on Wednesday, and I'm like, that's also my

518
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: cue to leave. But I do not want the footprint

519
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: to be edging out other people. Literally, I'm honest to god.

520
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: That's really noble. That was it. It's not everyone has that.

521
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: I was just like, no, no, no, no, no, that

522
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: can't be it. Yeah, you know, when it's time to go, right,

523
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is this is Swift said that Taylor Swift,

524
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: that legend.

525
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: But anyway, the Ariostour documentary, can you imagine that?

526
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 2: Yes, I can, I can wait wait wait, wait, off

527
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 2: so many other things. Wait, oh yes, I I wish

528
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: they were there were other cast in that piece. We

529
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: did just have to like if there had to be one,

530
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: if there had to be now stop he was.

531
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: I was so happy they did that.

532
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: Come on, I mean yeah, everybody and like, I don't know, man,

533
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: that is a really I can't believe I got to

534
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: work there. And I said in the sketch that is

535
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: the thing that I will like keep saying like I

536
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: can't believe it feels like it happened to someone else.

537
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: I'm so glad it happened to me. I am going

538
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: to pull you into this experience because I got to

539
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: tell Genna Rositana, the stage manager there, one of the

540
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: many wonderful stage managers there.

541
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: She's an icon. She's an icon.

542
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: But I she kind of cried the hardest out of

543
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: anybody besides Ari. I was like, Jenna, you well, first

544
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: of all, she said something that like destroyed me, which

545
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: was and this is not me like bragging.

546
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: She just goes. I never she goes. She goes to me.

547
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: She's seen a lot of behavior on that floor. She's like,

548
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: I've never seen you raise your voice or be unkind

549
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: to anyone in the seven years.

550
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: Were you, which like means a lot to me. Yeah,

551
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: it means a lot to me. Well that's why everyone

552
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: hit the floor when you when you were leaving.

553
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: But I told her, I was like, Jenna, from the

554
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: very first time I met you, you were just so

555
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: kind to me. Because I came down to the hallway

556
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: outside of the studio just to like wripe a cue

557
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: cards because you could kind of hear what's going on stage.

558
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: I was I came down to the floor to listen

559
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: to your screen test because I was I was, I

560
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: just wanted to. I just wanted to like be close

561
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: and just like I don't know, send energy or something.

562
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: And then she was there and she was like, are

563
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: you lost, And I was like, no, no, I just

564
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: my best friend in the whole world is on stage.

565
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Right now, and I just want to I just want

566
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: to see how he's doing.

567
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: And then she she completely breaks down. She was like,

568
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 2: that's your best friend up there. Well, then stay as

569
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: long as you want, and just she I see her

570
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: as like a bridge. I don't know, like, yeah, I

571
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: always think of you when I'm with her, and I

572
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: always think about how Kanji was to me and how.

573
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: She loves you. I know, I wish I could.

574
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: She loves you. We will go we will go back.

575
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: She wants to get stone and watch Sopranos. Let's go

576
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: for us. Oh my god, that's fucking awesome.

577
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: She's watching the Stone were getting ripped and watching the Sopranos.

578
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: She's the just oh god, sorry, I'm a massing, you know,

579
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: I mean, like it is.

580
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: It is such a crazy thing in totality, like there

581
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: have been so many moments where I'm watching it and

582
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't believe this is happening. I can't

583
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: believe this is happening. And then at some point that

584
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: transition to like me like completely just like marinating in

585
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: this experience, and then like of watching you do this show,

586
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: and then it ended in that moment and I was like,

587
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: I was like I was like alone watching it, which

588
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 1: felt so crazy, and like, of course all of our

589
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: friends are texting me from your dressing room and like

590
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: they're all there, and I could like smell it and

591
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: feel like I could feel how hot it was in

592
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 1: the room, like and I was just like, god, like

593
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: it really is. But it didn't feel it felt conclusive.

594
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: It did not feel final. Oh interesting, you know what

595
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it felt like it was like a

596
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: wonderful way for this to conclude this chapter, but it

597
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: didn't feel like like you'll be back on that show hosting,

598
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. And I think it's

599
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: so great that you get to have this great relationship

600
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: with the show and everyone that works there, and yeah,

601
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean, just for it to end that wonderfully, I

602
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: think gives all the validity to what Jenna is saying.

603
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: It would not have been that way had you not

604
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: done it like a pro, like a kind person and

605
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: like a talent, like the talent that you are. So

606
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: I take my hat and all my clothes off to you.

607
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: Oh I'm naked. If you can't see, I'm completely nude.

608
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: I've been completely nude doing this interview, this exit interview

609
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: title of app with Bowen. Is there anything else you

610
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: want to say about it before we talk about heated

611
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: rivalry or whatever? The fuck? Yes?

612
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: I need to just point out the share element of it,

613
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: which was we weren't sure if she was going to

614
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: do it down to like Saturday, yeah, because it was

615
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: like we wrote a bunch of different versions of it

616
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 2: and she, uh, you know, she just wanted spare dialogue

617
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: because it's like a she will tell you she's a

618
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: dyslexic icon.

619
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, we haven't.

620
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: We also haven't talked about her memoir, which whatever, we

621
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: will definitely j Block doing the It trades off between

622
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: Share and Stephane J Block doing the reading together because

623
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: she's like, you're gonna notice that someone besides me is

624
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: on the is on the audiobook, and it's the wonderful

625
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: Stephanie J Block, who played me in the Share show

626
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: or whatever. By the way, Okay, we were so what

627
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: a gig to score for seventy block? Ye's such a gig.

628
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: We were to share family reunion. It did not get me.

629
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: It did not go but I, but Celeste and I

630
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: had the perfect experience of running around on Wednesday to

631
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: all the casts offices because they're like, I don't have

632
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: a Share. I'm like, ah, straight people don't have a share.

633
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: Gay guys do. Every gay guy gig. Every gig guy

634
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: has the same share. Like they kind of understood what

635
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: that was. I tell them, I didn't tell them about Snap.

636
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: I had to tell them about Snap out of It.

637
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: But it's like I had to teach Ashley Padilla. You

638
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: had to tell people about Snap out of It. It

639
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: was beautiful. Oh no, I didn't have to tell them

640
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: about Snap out of It. That people just don't know

641
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: the culture anymore. People just don't know the culture.

642
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: And this is not this is not just to to

643
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: like evaluate anything about SHARE's legacy or cultural impact. It's

644
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: just that like it's a gig guy thing to like

645
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: have share in their bones. Anyway, we weren't sure if

646
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: there was gonna do it, and then Saturday, she uh confirms,

647
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: We're so excited, and then she uh, you know, she

648
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: was alway gonna be the boss. But then like we wrote,

649
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: we wrote her like us like some zingy, like roasty lines,

650
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: like the original line was something along the lines of

651
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: like I was like, do you have any feedback for me?

652
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: And she would say something like, you know, even for me,

653
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: you were a little bit too gay or something like that.

654
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: But then she was like I want to I don't.

655
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: She's like, I want to be kind. She was like,

656
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: can I.

657
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: Just say like you were perfect?

658
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: And she was like I just want I just want

659
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: to kiss them or something. And then and then like

660
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: and then we had to we to go and like

661
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: pitch to her that she would maybe sing if we

662
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: would love for if she sang with us at the end, yeah,

663
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: and because that was a question mark two.

664
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: And then we go down. I go to her dressing room,

665
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: oh man, and I was like.

666
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: So it's please come On from Christmas by the Eagles

667
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: and Charles Brown and you've covered it and I loved

668
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: your cover of it on the album. She was like, okay,

669
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: but what part do you want me to sing? And

670
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: I was like, it's just gonna be the end, So

671
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: do you want to run it? And I was like,

672
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: oh my god. I was like, there'll be no my sorrow,

673
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 2: not to grieve in pain. And then as far away

674
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: from me as this microphone is, she's like, She's like,

675
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: this is close to me, and then with the full

676
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: force of share my god, she.

677
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: Goes, no, my heaven, that's it. Wasn't like that. She

678
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: did not crap, but she just gave me full.

679
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: Full force share directed at and I was like, it

680
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: felt like a card crashed into me. I was, yeah,

681
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: I'm I can't believe. I can't believe every she did that. Yeah, anyway,

682
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: that's all I have to say. Let's talk heated rivalry.

683
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: He has ended the conversation everybody, even though this was

684
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: my interview. Oh, well, anything anything else you want to ask? Really?

685
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: I do know all of it. Like I said, you

686
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: can't shock me with anything. Yeah, I don't know.

687
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: Is there anything else? I mean not really? I guess

688
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: what's next for you? Oh? What is next for you? Wait?

689
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: What's next? You should we say? Anything? Wonderful things? Well?

690
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: I love this like press run of like Bowen's first

691
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: major project post SNL is.

692
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Two guys five Oh I love it.

693
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: Not that I'm not honored to have that technically be

694
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: the first project post SNL.

695
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: It's like, well, let's not. Yeah, the Olympics podcast we're doing.

696
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean we are going to Milan. We actually we

697
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: have a very fun next few months. Yes, so it's

698
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: funny because like we do have to we have to

699
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: execute this movie. Yes, we have to write our book. Yes,

700
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: we got to get the New Culture Awards together. That's

701
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: gonna be very fun. We have to we have some

702
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: other things that are have not hit the trades, but

703
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: there's there's a long list of things. And so that's

704
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: another thing is I was, like, to be honest with you,

705
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: it like really wasn't tenable for you to keep knocking

706
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: on the show because we're going to be in debt

707
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: soon to these people. Yes, like, which is so exciting.

708
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: I think it's like there is It's it's not even

709
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: like what's the next act. It's like there is a

710
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: next act. Just wait. Like it's like you don't have

711
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: to decide on anything. If if you added things to

712
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: our and your plate, that would be great, but you

713
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: don't even need to bitch. And I just want to

714
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: make sure that you know that the pace at which

715
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: you've been going in the workload that you've had has

716
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: been abnormal, and so it's gonna feel a little bit

717
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: like less. And I just I feel like as someone

718
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: who it's really interesting because like I have had this

719
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: whole other like career outside of like what you've had,

720
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: Like I feel like you got to develop for such

721
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: a for seven and a half years at this show,

722
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: and like everything and my resume is like a little

723
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: bit different. Like for me, it's like a ton of

724
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: other things. And I've had a lot of different experience.

725
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: I think You're so perfect at all of them. But well,

726
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: I do think that sometimes it was a little bit

727
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: like because it's like when you are right next to

728
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: someone else, like all you have to do is like

729
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: compare yourself to them. It's like you know what I mean.

730
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: It's like with like sisters or like twins, it's like

731
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 1: if something happens to one, the other one almost feels

732
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: like why isn't it happening to me? So I do

733
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes I would like overcorrect and like really

734
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: really really push myself to make sure that like I

735
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: would develop in an equal way alongside of you. And

736
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: like in so many ways I feel like, and it

737
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter what I feel like, because as a

738
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: result of existing and working and caring, you do develop.

739
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: But just outside of all that, like one thing that

740
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: I've had to learn and I think now you'll be

741
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: forced to learn is balance. Yes, Like, and I think

742
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: that I hope that excites you and doesn't start to

743
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: make you anxious and nervous, because well, at a certain point,

744
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: I just I'm telling you, like, you can always tell

745
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: me if it does, and you can always vocalize to

746
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: like on camera. I'll say this like your therapist and

747
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that, Like you know what I mean, Like

748
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: be checking in about what it's going to feel like

749
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: to suddenly not have an abnormal schedule truly, you.

750
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: Know, I'm on it, Like, yeah, I think it's gonna

751
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 2: be okay. I will make room for like moments where

752
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: it feels really bizarre or maybe even bad. You should

753
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: be bored, I can't, Oh, don't even worry. Well, the

754
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: thing is, it's so funny because like literally we're not

755
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: like so you're we're going to Tokyo.

756
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: We're going We're going to Japan, We're going to Milan.

757
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: We're going to Milan. We're full on continuing this podcast.

758
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: Like stell On, we got a new contract and everything, bitch,

759
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: we got a new set and can I just say,

760
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: we want a new picture. We're gonna get a new picture.

761
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: We tried this one.

762
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: I like it, but let's let's let's you see our

763
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: faces hand you. This was so icon the one of

764
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 2: us naked and like this, and you were like, that

765
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: was so iconic that I feel like, do we go

766
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: back to it?

767
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't think we go back to it. I think

768
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: I think we have a picture that works. Okay. I

769
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: think maybe we do an animation on it. Oh, but anyway,

770
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: so this is just for us. But what I was

771
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: saying was like, you're gonna you're gonna go to do

772
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: you tell everyone where you're going? After Milan? I am

773
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: going to.

774
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: Santiago and then through Drake's Drake's Passage Antarctica with my parents,

775
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: because that is I think it's I'm gonna say it's

776
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: my mom's dreams.

777
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: Antarctica trip with my parents is so crazy.

778
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna see the penguins, We're gonna get our sea legs.

779
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna bomb on this boat, are you or?

780
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: The water is the roughest waters. It's the roughest waters.

781
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: But oh my god, I'm gonna see we have to

782
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: like order like special parkas for this. Like my mom

783
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: when when when she came, when when they came for Thanksgiving,

784
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: they stayed with me, and my mom was just like whatever,

785
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: helping me clean the apartment. But it's just like on

786
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: loop the entire time, or just on an auto mixed playlist,

787
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: just content about this boat and Antarctica, people and steerage,

788
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: just like vomiting, like this is she needs this to happen,

789
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: and I need it to have I think this is

790
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm like fire hosing myself with a

791
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: new experience. So how many continents will that mean?

792
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: You visited five?

793
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: The only one that I'll have not visited by the

794
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: end will be Africa. You've been to South America, I

795
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: will have Santiago. Oh right, so yes, of course, So

796
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 2: that'll that's Chile. That'll check too.

797
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Anyway, I've randomly been to South America. I've randomly been

798
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: to bog right by the way. Oh my god, that's

799
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: the speaking of South America. So all this Venezuela stuff stuff

800
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: my you know, my aunt used to live in Venezuela, no,

801
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: shut up, aunt, Chrissy what yeah, So what does she

802
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: think about all this? She's like, So I asked her.

803
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, so, what are your

804
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: friends there thinking? And she was like, honestly, like, they're

805
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: they're free, they're relieved. But she also is like, we'll

806
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: see what happens in the next few weeks, like because

807
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: certainly chaos is going to break.

808
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: Out, Like well, this is this is all worked out

809
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: so great in the past when we've been a part

810
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: of regime choking exactly.

811
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, but but the thing is like, and I've

812
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: seen some some friends of mine who are Venezuelan and

813
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: are like sort of saying like, you know, if you

814
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: don't understand this, like don't say anything. It's not as

815
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: simple as like like, well I do all of it now.

816
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: My one friend shared like, you know, if you're drowning

817
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: and someone throws you a life raft, you don't question

818
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: where it came from. It just you just take it.

819
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: And Venezuela has been drowning. So that was like a

820
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: take I hadn't considered, because you know, the vast response

821
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: to it is like this is illegal what he's done.

822
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: This is you know this is exactly like Iraq, you

823
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: know this, etc. And I think all those things are true,

824
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: but it's been an interesting perspective to literally ask my

825
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean, so my aunt was married to a guy

826
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: from Venezuela back when they were a wealthy country. They

827
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: didn't realize Chrissy was down there. So she was my

828
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: former uncle Maurice. Like, they were married and they got

829
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: divorced because he was an asshole, but they were wealthy

830
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: and Venezuela was at one time like prosperous. So she's

831
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: still got friends back from that era and they are

832
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: not feeling like that anymore. Like it's gone off a

833
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: cliff like under like the regime of the past, like

834
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: thirty years. But it's been an interesting thing, like just

835
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: to look a little bit beyond the initial reactions to

836
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: what's going on. It is yet another complicated international moment.

837
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just been really interesting and I realized

838
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: I had like a like a literal resource to people there.

839
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, you and Chanelle should trade spots on the today.

840
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: You should be behind the desk.

841
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: I should go to the regor. I should become a

842
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: real journalist. Yeah, I mean not, no, I almost did

843
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: you know I went you know that. I was initially, yes,

844
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: you were tadcast journalism major. I thought I wanted to

845
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: be Ryan Seacrest, you not, even though he's not really

846
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: a journalist. Yes, sure he is. I don't know is

847
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Secrets a journalist? So I initially I was like,

848
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: I want to go to school for broadcast journalism so

849
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: I can hopefully one day get like a radio show

850
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: and then maybe host something like American Idol. This is

851
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: but the whole time, underneath that I wanted to be

852
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: an actor and low key like a singer and so

853
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: like that was always buried underneath what I could package

854
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: me wanting to be in the entertainment industry with, which

855
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: was at first broadcast journalism because that didn't seem too gay,

856
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: of course, and then comedy because that really didn't seem gay.

857
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: That seemed like edgy and fun and something that like

858
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: I could tell straight men and straight people in my

859
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: life that I was doing and it was cool. It's

860
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: like a way to be on stage that's not gay, right,

861
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: But I eventually like realized I am gay.

862
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: But isn't that The tension with this suity has this right,

863
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: like you just want to tell like any any guy

864
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: who like doesn't see it as theater or you're like,

865
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: it's theater.

866
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're doing something, gay dude, you're doing something.

867
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: You're up on stage being like, hey, I'm in a

868
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: full face of makeup, like and I'm miked.

869
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: You know how gay it is to get a micd

870
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: someone has to run a cord down your shirt.

871
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: It's so much, and then they have to like, look,

872
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: they have to like meticulously work on your collar. It's

873
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: like gay. Yeah.

874
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: Well even just like stool and a water bottle, Yeah,

875
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 2: that's still technically considered like set.

876
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: A stool is one of the gayest chairs. It's real.

877
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: A culture number eleven.

878
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: A stool one of the gayest chair, the gayest chair.

879
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: And Grande sat on one or neiled on one for

880
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: her second album and gay culture was never the same

881
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: and gay culture? What's your favorite Ariana album?

882
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's so hard know why is it Sweetener? And

883
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: why No? I mean it's actually possessions you love positions.

884
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a dangerous woman, stand forever, freak forever

885
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: love dangerous woman?

886
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: And is she coming back on the show? Can we

887
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: you test text her? Yeah?

888
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: We'll she Well I was gonna say she obviously, if

889
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: she doesn't do the Culture Awards this year, it's because

890
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: there she's got a million other things going on.

891
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: Obviously wants to do it. Oh my god. By the way,

892
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: you know what just came out and we didn't even

893
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: realize the SAG nominations. Shall we read them live? Let's

894
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: read them? Okay, wait, this is exciting. Before before we

895
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: do this, did you watch the Critics Choice and everything?

896
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: I did not want the Kriks Choice. It's looking like

897
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: Ms Madigan has taken that Academy award, Babe Jacob. Surprise yet,

898
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: huge surprise, huge surprise. Okay, what is this? This says

899
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: Oh to be revealed on Wednesday. Sorry, guys, no problem.

900
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: So they'll be out today to this in the morning.

901
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I did not watch Criticks Choice,

902
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: but I watched it. You what are your thoughts? So

903
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: the winners were Challi May. I think it's his year,

904
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: challow May, Jesse Jesse Buckley. I haven't seen Hamnet because

905
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: I want to, like so this is the thing. You

906
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: want to watch it? You should watch it on the

907
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: plane of Tokyo. Maybe I will. Yeah, I just I

908
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: need to be in the clear. I'm a little bit

909
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: emotionally raw right now, Yes, and I need to be

910
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: in the clear with something like that. Totally. It's another

911
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: and you know what, I'm realizing, it's like it has

912
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: to be the right time for me with some of

913
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: these movies. I understand, Hamnet. I was gonna go see

914
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: it like a screening, and I was like, oh, I

915
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: just don't think it's like the right time. I'm gonna

916
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: be destroyed. So I didn't get to see it. And

917
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: also I can't find four hours to devote to Avatar.

918
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: I can't. I at the present time can't do it.

919
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: I understand because it's a three hours I had tickets

920
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: right we were gonna go with the band Yes on

921
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: the road, and I was like, m with our precious

922
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: time here before between rehearsing and traveling and doing shows

923
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: like busy dude, watch a three hour, seventeen minute movie

924
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: that's gonna have over half an hour of previews and

925
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: then you have to get through whatever. That's like an

926
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: almost four and a half hour commitment. Yeah, And I

927
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I always enjoy the Avatar movies.

928
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: You know, my baby is strong, My.

929
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: Baby is strong. I hear the whales have a great

930
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: dialogue in this one.

931
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: And that's gonna help me get there. It is.

932
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: I also heard this Una Chaplin, Una Chaplin and the

933
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: character she plays pro Jong Provong seen the movie You

934
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: Have the Wrong? Does she give I hear? She gives

935
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: I hear? I hear wrong?

936
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: Is the star? All right? Well I'm gonna go. It's

937
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: just that there hasn't been ample time I've been. I've

938
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: weirdly like not stopped being busy. That's so weird of you. Yes,

939
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: of course we all know that. Like the tour, just

940
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: to speak on the tour, the tour was like the

941
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: best version of the tour ever, And I'm mentally I

942
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: didn't even.

943
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: Give you the space and the flowers. Congratulations. It's like

944
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: not my Christmas in December.

945
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: Yes it is. It's both of our days. I have

946
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: had a several months. Yes, you have. The tour was

947
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: the saving grace that it always is for me. It

948
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: like has It was the best version of it ever.

949
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: You sounded amazing, And this is my first year where

950
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't able to see it live, which I'm very

951
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: sad about.

952
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 1: It's all good because I literally spoke to our agent

953
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: last night so candidly, Like six weeks ago, I was like,

954
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: maybe this is it. I was like, maybe this is

955
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: the last year, because I was just a lot, you

956
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: know what, Like I was just like on up to this,

957
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: like I've been feeling I've been feeling more self conscious

958
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: and a little bit more vulnerable to people's opinion. And

959
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: I think that like one of the things that happened

960
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: when I was doing the tour is I was just

961
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: like just there with me and the band, which is

962
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: like we're such like a literal like unit on the road.

963
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: We have so much fun. This was the most fun

964
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: year yet and everyone that had come to Pace and

965
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: see that show, and like I felt such like a

966
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: duty to make it the best one yet. And I

967
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: think that was what was giving me such anxiety, was

968
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: I felt like this weird combination of like self consciousness

969
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: about whether I was gonna be able to deliver a

970
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: product to that I that is good enough like for

971
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: me to show everyone and get people out buying tickets

972
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: and still come into the show. But also that was

973
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: like in the face of me being really like like

974
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but like caring what people

975
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: thought and were saying, and like just super aware that,

976
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: Like I think that what you experienced like four years

977
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: ago or maybe four or five years ago with becoming

978
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: like a lot more recognizable, I experienced in the past

979
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: like year. Yeah. Like And I also I always try

980
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: to like shy away from saying something like that, because

981
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: again I compare myself to someone like you, who's like

982
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: much much more recognizable and much much has much much

983
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: more notoriety because of the platform that you're on. But

984
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: I also like it wasn't serving me to deny that

985
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: my reality was changing, because it did. And like a

986
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: lot of the things that people will say online when

987
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: they're really mean, is like he is no talent, Like

988
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: he's just writing on Bowen's coattails. The most untru and

989
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: being is like with the show and like when I

990
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: the yeah, with my my Christmas show, and with like

991
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, being involved in things with people, even just

992
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: doing things like today's show, like being on Palm Royal

993
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: like I was in that movie Good Fortune, Like you

994
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I've had a busy year

995
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: and doing the Cultural Awards like was so edifying. Came

996
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: I just ended the year being like all that is

997
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: such bullshit, Like this is what I'm supposed to be

998
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: doing and I will always do. I never in the beginning,

999
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: when I was developing myself and my talent and my

1000
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: career ever had any doubts about that. And then suddenly like,

1001
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because the cultural awards, like

1002
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: truly took me for a ride and I had to

1003
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: re examine a lot about my anxiety and stuff like that,

1004
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: and whether or not I enjoyed a lot of the

1005
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: elements that come along with putting yourself out there and

1006
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: being in the entertainment industry. I can full confidently say

1007
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: at the end of this year that as long as

1008
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: I keep the focus on what matters, which is the

1009
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: work and how I'm making people feel and how I

1010
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: feel doing something, I have no doubt in my mind

1011
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: that I love this and that I will always do it.

1012
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: But I was having a hard time.

1013
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: I understand, And I also just want to say, you

1014
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: were meant for this. You are the funniest, most talented person.

1015
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: I know.

1016
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: That's subjective, and you are by a riot contract work

1017
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: ethic with contract, and so he hasked to have to

1018
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: say this.

1019
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: He has to say that I actually made sure that

1020
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: was in the contract. I was happy to sign now

1021
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,959
Speaker 1: say my mile time. Mile time is four thirty six.

1022
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: Very good, but anyway, occurring joke on two guys, Fira.

1023
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: I literally what I mean to say is I literally

1024
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: had the conversation with our touring agent Joe last night

1025
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: that we're going to do it again. Yeah, so like

1026
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna do it again, and I'm always going

1027
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: to do it probably in some as long as as

1028
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: long as Henry Kapreski doesn't bail on me. And he

1029
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: already texted me like the day or two after the

1030
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: tour ended, and he was like, I already have so

1031
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: many ideas for next year. And that was so different

1032
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: than what the energy was like three or four years ago.

1033
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: He fully told me like I don't want to do

1034
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: it again. I feel like we need to leave a

1035
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: good thing. And then I was like, just give me

1036
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: one more year. I was like, you know, I'll I

1037
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: will train my voice with a with a coach so

1038
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: that you don't have to do it or get me

1039
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: ready as much like I'll come to rehearsals really prepared.

1040
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: I will, i will work on you know, it was

1041
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: hard when it was just he and I. Of course,

1042
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was he was

1043
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: he was my ex boyfriend. It was just he and

1044
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: I traveling around the country, and I was like not

1045
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: the trained singer I am now you know what I mean. Like,

1046
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: and so sometimes tech was hard or whatever, but I

1047
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: worked on it really hard, and I've I've worked on

1048
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: myself really hard, and I'm finally doing things like without

1049
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: saying too much, like that really put me first and

1050
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: have a belief in my self worth. And I'm so

1051
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: serious this year. I'm not I'm not engaging with the online.

1052
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: I'll say something does not serve me something and it

1053
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: doesn't serve you, no, of course. But the the thing

1054
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: about you, it being just you and Henry, like this

1055
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: is something that even I forget. But that is like

1056
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 2: the gumption and the resourcefulness and like the like self

1057
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: leaning thing that you've had to like depend on for

1058
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: all these years, Like Matt, you've like think of like

1059
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: how that's developed over like the past five years.

1060
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: Like that is so well it right actually really makes

1061
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: me feel like anything is like possible with people in

1062
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: your life, because like he and I are truly like

1063
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: soul connected in terms of like what we create, what

1064
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: we do. And sometimes when I'm doing the show, especially

1065
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: towards the end of the tour, Like I'll look back

1066
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: at him and I'll be like, I can't believe that's

1067
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: still that person. I know, you know what I mean,

1068
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: Like I cannot believe that that person is still around,

1069
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: especially after like you know how stupid you are when

1070
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: you're like twenty six, twenty seven years old, and how

1071
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: you treat people that are close to you, and how

1072
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: how like you really have to like stick with people,

1073
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: especially like through your late twenties early thirties and then

1074
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: not everyone is supposed to stick around, no, But I'm

1075
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: like so happy that he has and it connects me

1076
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: to Ethan his partner now, who's like makes my tour better.

1077
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: He's the tour manager, et cetera. I've had like no

1078
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: emotional release since then. So it's like because I stayed

1079
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: really busy and just like a lot's been going on.

1080
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I just I'm super grateful. I'm super

1081
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: grateful that everything shook out that with obviously with that project,

1082
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: but with him. I mean that's really the most important thing.

1083
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: Like at the end of the show, like the band

1084
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: takes a bow, and then I make sure that just

1085
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: Henry and I take a bow because like he truly

1086
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: like you know he you guys, people that know the

1087
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: Lord know the Lord.

1088
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: The lore is truly profound. It's like you guys really

1089
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: boosted each other up from like what didn't seem like

1090
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: any sort of like I don't know, like low point.

1091
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: But it's like we got we were all like we

1092
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: didn't really know like how and that's a beautiful thing.

1093
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: We didn't really know how much we were like struggling.

1094
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: And it wasn't even I don't want to frame it

1095
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 2: as a struggle either. We were just like really working

1096
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: really hard. Like we did not Yeah, we did not

1097
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: come from this with like I don't know, like with

1098
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: too many like yeah, blessings besides like the obvious ones. Yeah,

1099
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: and like this is this is not to make this

1100
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: about me, but this is like our diconomy, you and

1101
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: I as always and I feel completely great about this.

1102
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I see like my track on

1103
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: like in the last seven years is like me being

1104
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: a part of something that like affords me a lot

1105
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: of things, and you being almost exclusively a self starter.

1106
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: Like you get to look at this tour as like

1107
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: your creation. You're and Henry's beautiful thing that you've built together,

1108
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: and I get to be like, oh, I've I had

1109
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: a great time on this thing that like on this

1110
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: very well oiled machine. Well we started this girl, that's true,

1111
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: and I think we take this for granted a lot.

1112
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: For sure, I think we take this for granted a lot.

1113
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, this is like the

1114
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: this is the first episode of the ten fear of

1115
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: the podcast, and that's like crazy, czy great, And I

1116
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: think the reason we don't think of it sometimes as

1117
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: like even though we do a lot of work for it,

1118
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't realize how much work I'm doing for it,

1119
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. Like sometimes I'm like whoa,

1120
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: Like I just spent hours like working on the podcast,

1121
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: and I think because it's rude in something that is

1122
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: so easy, which is like talking to you and like

1123
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: our friendship. But I am sensitive about this, Like I'm

1124
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: really sensitive about this podcast. And well, I guess what

1125
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: I want people to know is like, like we are

1126
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: working so hard and we're still even before we started rolling,

1127
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: we sat here for like ten minutes being like what

1128
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: like really thinking about the color of the chairs for

1129
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: the set, you know what I mean, like really caring

1130
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: about and think who we put on this podcast and

1131
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: what we share and how we get out of.

1132
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: Them and how we deliver it to you. I mean,

1133
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: will I will be transparent and say that Matt and

1134
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: I have turned down.

1135
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: Many people, not people.

1136
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying a lot of money yes for deals, where

1137
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: like it would compromise the way that this gets delivered.

1138
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna We're just gonna are we are we?

1139
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel good about saying that, well,

1140
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: because it is true and this is I guess again.

1141
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: What I want to say is that like we've earned

1142
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: the right to do this the way we want to

1143
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: do it, absolut fucking lotly. That being said, that being said,

1144
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: let's talk about some culture and.

1145
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: Last, last last thing, last thing I'll say about like

1146
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: the like about like what's being said and like being

1147
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: sensitive to that.

1148
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: I the reason why I was also very.

1149
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: Emotional the last show and just seeing like that sort

1150
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: of thing being like directed in my way, that kind

1151
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 2: of that outpouring, as I said earlier, of love, Yeah,

1152
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: is because it completely undid this other narrative that was

1153
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: running parallel in my mind, Yeah, the very vocal, loud

1154
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: one whereas I think the loved one is like was

1155
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: there all along. I just wasn't too attuned to it,

1156
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: but the vocal loud other track that was going on

1157
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, listen, like everyone who works at that

1158
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: show engages on different levels with like the comments.

1159
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: Right, it gets to us because it's week in and

1160
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: week out and you really don't ever get a break

1161
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: to me like, oh, let me not engage. No, And

1162
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: they're so consistent, and even the alums are like, I.

1163
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: Don't know how you guys do it now, Like there

1164
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: would be like one review or a New York magazine

1165
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: on Sunday and then that would be and everyone going

1166
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: on gone about their lives.

1167
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: Do you remember years ago Tina Fey like won an

1168
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: Emmy and she used I remember at the time watching it,

1169
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: and her speech was mostly used to respond to online commenters.

1170
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: Here's the whole chapter in Bossy Fans about it. Yes,

1171
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: and I realize now that that was not purely ironic.

1172
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: No, No, that's okay, it's okay because this doesn't make

1173
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: any fucking sense the way that anyone that we have

1174
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: that we are openly available to read anyone else's thoughts

1175
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: about what we do.

1176
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, and so this is this is what I'll say.

1177
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: About like the commenters for me, which is like I

1178
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: feel like I was really bogged down the entire time

1179
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: I was there. About like the idea that like there

1180
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: was no range in anything I did. That's just such

1181
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: a lazy s well, it's just there's it's not lazy.

1182
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: It's just it makes sense in terms of like they're

1183
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:23,479
Speaker 2: being like they're being like an indigestion as it were

1184
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: with like receiving me, where I'm like I knew I

1185
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 2: was never gonna play the dad. I was never gonna

1186
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: play you know, the generic thing in sketches where it's

1187
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: a sketch show, each thing is like four minutes long.

1188
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: It is short and collapsed by sort of necessity, and

1189
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: so therefore it plays on archetypes. These archetypes are also

1190
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: in a relationship with like generic things, and there is

1191
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: a genericism in whiteness and in like being like a

1192
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: canvas to like build upon, and like I had, like

1193
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: I came in sort of like pre stretched, pre died whatever,

1194
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, like people had their over determinations on like

1195
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: what I was, which was like, oh, that's just the

1196
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: gay Asian guy in SNL. And so anytime I would

1197
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: try to like work. Outside of that, it got completely

1198
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: ignored or it still got collapsed to oh, he's an Asian,

1199
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: he's he's being gauged.

1200
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: In so many things that were First of all, it

1201
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: is a I don't think people necessarily know they're being

1202
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: homophobic when they say that, Oh, but it is because

1203
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but if you don't have range.

1204
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: I think range is a myth and it's all about

1205
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: like palatability, whether there's a serp, whether you're getting taxed

1206
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: on it or you are subsidized.

1207
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. They knock Pete Davidson for

1208
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: range or does he get to get away with it

1209
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: because it's cool and like within a male gate? Sorry?

1210
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: Is that is that wrong?

1211
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: I could teach like a media studies like seminar about this.

1212
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: I think I bet you should you both eat both

1213
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 2: of us.

1214
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: I'll be the ta because because you know what, they

1215
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: do nothing, they have no range. And so this is

1216
01:02:58,800 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: the thing.

1217
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: I just bring this up because that is one little

1218
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: thing that I wanted to like that I'm I'm getting

1219
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: so much clarity on. It's the reason why I've been

1220
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: so emotional about the post, Like the PostScript of this.

1221
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: You talking about all.

1222
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: The work you put into the tour, into your projects,

1223
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: into this show that is all running counter that is

1224
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: that is the panacea to all of that noise.

1225
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: It's not real and this is not real, and it's

1226
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: so easily debunked. Well, that's what drives me crazy, is

1227
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: I know I could lock on it and kill these

1228
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: people in a second, of course.

1229
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 2: And George George Saveris was saying this on Straighter Lab.

1230
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: It's like there's like a phenomenon going on now where

1231
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: like there's like a it's kind of like pluribus. It's

1232
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: like there's like the remaining people. There's like a survivorship

1233
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 2: thing happening where it's like the remaining people in the

1234
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: comments are either like clearly bought or clearly mentally ill.

1235
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: Or clearly children. As Lu says, they're all twelve. There's

1236
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: one person online who constantly comes for me, huh. And

1237
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: I realized recently that they're thirteen, right I. I It

1238
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: became very clear to me a kid, and I was

1239
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: just like, oh god, how much brain space have I

1240
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: been angry at this? Thirteen? You know? And you know

1241
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: they're failing pre algebra. It's sad.

1242
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my, the fact that you're obsessed with

1243
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: me means that you are not doing well. You're not

1244
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: you're not selling girls Cot cookies this year.

1245
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and that my thing is just like and

1246
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: I and I don't. I'm not We're not dunking on

1247
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: that person. No, No, that's just it. You're just thirteen on

1248
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: the internet. So and you have every right to do that.

1249
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: I am an idiot for investing in it, and like

1250
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: it's an opinion. But I was using the fucking reddit

1251
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: as a report card. No, you can't do that.

1252
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: First of all, report card, kid, I'm invisible to that reddit. Meanwhile,

1253
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: they're all, I don't get it, but like we need

1254
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: Matt's ticks on heated brivalry.

1255
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh I'm I'm going to recently look at it. I did.

1256
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm on this show so too. By the way,

1257
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: whenever they just mentioned me, it's because they they they

1258
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: love they attached.

1259
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: I think that I am. I feel more accessible to

1260
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: them because I'm not actually a list famous And I

1261
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: also think I think they think they know what you

1262
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: think about heated rivalry.

1263
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 2: I let's get into it. Sure, here's the thing about

1264
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: heated rivalry. A show can be so amazing and incredible,

1265
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: even if there is virtually zero.

1266
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: Conflict in it. I fucking love it. I'm obsessed with

1267
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: the show. I'm obsessed with the show. Did you ever

1268
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: come to the show? I never touched my dick one.

1269
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: I think I paused, walked around like had a snack.

1270
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: Then I jerked off, and I wasn't like all of me.

1271
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: You know what? Before I watched it, I jerked off

1272
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: to it because I was like, I'm not going to

1273
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: watch that. Might as well just use it what it's

1274
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: for porn because I had been told so many times

1275
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: this is porn, right, And then I was like, wow,

1276
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: this is a cultural phenomenon I must pay attention to.

1277
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: You cannot because suddenly it was all over my algorithm

1278
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: someone that hadn't even watched it. I was like, Okay,

1279
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: the world is deciding it's this.

1280
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 2: It was as big as white lotus, I would say, so,

1281
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: so finally I watch it.

1282
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: Here's my two takes. That's not porn that I did

1283
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: not think that. I thought it was explicit. I did

1284
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: not think it was grotesque. It did not feel too much.

1285
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't maybe I just watched too much porn. I

1286
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: wasn't like clutching my pearls watching it. I was like, Oh,

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01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: this looks like hot sex to me, hot movie sex

1288
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: to me.

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01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, look at the framing on that.

1290
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot of negative space above their asses. Now

1291
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: you don't see that though, Can I say.

1292
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: Something this It is all love to Jordan firstman, and

1293
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: I think he's probably sorry he said this about like

1294
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: gay guys don't have sex like that, Like I don't

1295
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: need to see someone pull out their dick and a

1296
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: little bit of pusure on it, Like I'm sorry, that's

1297
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: what gay sex is, Like I need that. In heated rivalry,

1298
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: the romance, the romance show, this is this, This is

1299
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: the other thing.

1300
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: This is this also like dovetails on my on my

1301
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: first comment about hered Rivalry, which is like no conflict,

1302
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: it's because it is a fantasy, and it's this is

1303
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: the This is like the romance genre. It's like every word,

1304
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 2: every detail is engineered to make you obsessed with it. Yep,

1305
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: and it worked, and it worked and and welcome to

1306
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 2: the Fujoshi community. Like I've known about this world since

1307
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: I was twelve. On fictionpress dot com, where the people

1308
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 2: who are writing the best Yawi gay shit were women listen?

1309
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 2: I think Gorilla, if you're still out there, she was

1310
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: the queen of Yaoi fiction, and I was like, oh,

1311
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: it's oh the straight cis. Women love the gay stuff

1312
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: and are the best at writing it for so you

1313
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: won't to know what which read. First of all, she

1314
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: has imagination and writing about it. And then like a

1315
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: gay a gay man did create the show, like and

1316
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 2: so he is in charge of like the way it

1317
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 2: disseminates from the page the novel to the screen, and

1318
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 2: he did an amazing job.

1319
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: And I do think he's being erased a little bit

1320
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: in this commentary about like oh oh no, no, it's

1321
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: straight guys playing those roles. My second point is you

1322
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: do not know that they're not gay totally, and I

1323
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: don't care. But also I don't care. I don't think.

1324
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: Well, at this point, it's like the target keeps moving

1325
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 2: for this discourse because like, oh say so den walk

1326
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 2: so des mois fucking like docs shit about. I'm like,

1327
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: first of all, they fucking Duma and page six are

1328
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 2: just spewing lines that like my PR team has been like,

1329
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: that's not true. I did not get a lot of

1330
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: money thrown at me. No, he did not, which is

1331
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 2: all good. I still did it, still loved it. Yeah.

1332
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't have some like development deal coming trying to

1333
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: make this whole thing out of how there was so

1334
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: much drama about me leaving the show, about how Lauren

1335
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: was pissed. It's all good. I clearly otherwise that none

1336
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: of that would have happened, that would not have made

1337
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: it to television. Whatever fucking idiots including just whatever.

1338
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: It's because years ago they did like a celebrity Who's

1339
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: nice Who's Naughty list, and they said I was naughty.

1340
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm nice to literally everything. I literally I I don't know.

1341
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 2: Guys, it's it's Timz, it's Perez, It's like it's it's

1342
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 2: all the fucking morall anyway anyway, Okay, but uh uh,

1343
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 2: the target keeps me.

1344
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: But don't you do you say that because it's like

1345
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: it's like the the the fervor about the show is

1346
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: like I obviously think it means that, like it means

1347
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: a really good thing in that we can actually have

1348
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: because we're always saying the reason why they won't do

1349
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: stuff with like gay stories is because we feel there's

1350
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: an ick factor around gay sex, right, Like it feels

1351
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: like outside of the straight male gaze in a way

1352
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 1: that's like too uncomfortable.

1353
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: There's abject theory, right and now, oh, it's like here

1354
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: we are.

1355
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: It's like huge, like literally huge. So I think that's

1356
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: that's good. But like, I think the fact that we

1357
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:15,520
Speaker 1: don't exactly necessarily have a finger on their sexuality allows

1358
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: that to be true, because I think if that's too explicit,

1359
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: gay guys like you had scenes that were just as

1360
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: hot as that in a show that was quote unquote

1361
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: better than that with fellow travelers and no one said

1362
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: a word we didn't totally like and those were two

1363
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 1: out gay guys of course. Yeah, I mean there's certainly

1364
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: something there.

1365
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a dialectic in this for sure, where

1366
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 2: it's like people are like, it should only it should

1367
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 2: only be in the bedroom. Well that's like a fucking

1368
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: Republican talking point, you know what I mean. It's like, Okay,

1369
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 2: let's like we got to figure out like there it

1370
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: lives in the middle of like they should share everything

1371
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 2: about their sexuality and their sexual lives in real life,

1372
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: and they should share nothing.

1373
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: It's like whatever, It's like they performed it so well.

1374
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: It was like, first of all Connors story mark my words,

1375
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: he will win an oscar one day. He is really talented.

1376
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: And I love Hudson's performance, like he is the one

1377
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: that makes me really horny. It's it, honestly is. He's

1378
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: got very unique, very red that reminds me of Chad

1379
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: and Michael Murray years ago. Where did he have pepperoni?

1380
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: They were like appetizer plates y me. They were huge

1381
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: red and more. They literally were I remember there was it,

1382
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: there was he was always like he was so hot

1383
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: Chad Black Murray, He actually was. He was one of

1384
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: those guys when I was like coming of age and

1385
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: like getting into my sexuality. That would make me angry.

1386
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: Another one, justin Timberlake red nipples? They were red red

1387
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: or pink? Can we look it up? Matt Mada Potter, Like,

1388
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: can can someone just google justin Chimberlake nipples? They just

1389
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: sold their New York City apartment for forty million. That

1390
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: seems like too much, feels like trouble. Oh okay, what

1391
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: are we DOMI yeah, I guess so. Well, they're on

1392
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: the way out. Should we just be dooman now? Doom

1393
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: was over? Was over? Oh?

1394
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 2: We we would love to be domoi because we're not

1395
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: some like anonymous gossip girl you wanta but like she

1396
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: I can't stand.

1397
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, no, there's something about Hudson that just

1398
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: like it was like immediately total so sweet. We wrote.

1399
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: So we wrote two versions of Boonus straight for the

1400
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: last two shows, one with Josh O'Connor where we do

1401
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 2: a challenges with I.

1402
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: Can't believe that we read the script. It was a

1403
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: dumb decision.

1404
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 2: We got to have him say it was like, you know,

1405
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 2: we we got him to say and he was laughing

1406
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: through this scene.

1407
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: Those are pink, Those are not red. Oh, this from

1408
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: no strings attached. I know every screen grab. Oh, the

1409
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson thing keeps popping up if you if you

1410
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: google Hudson's.

1411
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: Are more read, I think CMMs Chad Michael Murray's are

1412
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 2: I can picture him having read nimble read.

1413
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't believe we're talking about his it's Friends

1414
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 1: with Benefits famously. The other one that year. By the way,

1415
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: you've googled this and it's from Instagram and it's just

1416
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: a fan pages screenshot of this and the caption is

1417
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: this justin Timberlake Shirtless is one of the best parts

1418
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: of the movie. Friends with benefits so sexy heart, thank

1419
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 1: you mana, thank you so much. What was I gonna say?

1420
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: The heat rivalry of it all? Just like what I

1421
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: was gonna say was, I don't care that if they're

1422
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: gay or not, they performed it with honesty and they

1423
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: were really committed and they have unbelievable chemistry. I don't

1424
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: care that they don't come out and say what their

1425
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: sexuality is, because what's important is the representation that is

1426
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: on the screen. Like I think it's becoming a little

1427
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: bit narcissistic for actors to be like, no, it needs

1428
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: to be me that does it. It needs to be me

1429
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't needs to be honest. It's just like it

1430
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: gets to a point sometimes with sexuality where I'm like, guys,

1431
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: we're putting the cart for the course a little bit here,

1432
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: Like we have to make them first. If they don't

1433
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: exist period, Well.

1434
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: My thing is and I might this will probably you know,

1435
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 2: get some sort of please write in please talk me

1436
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: down from this, y'all listeners reads Katie's pulp is spinal Skyles.

1437
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 2: I feel like performing sexuality or queerness is like because

1438
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: queerness is like an internal experience, Like it's different than like, oh, well,

1439
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: this person ethnically should be played by this ethnic listen

1440
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: that I totally right.

1441
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: It makes sense to me.

1442
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 2: I think there's more room to like, I don't know,

1443
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: be like not necessarily exactly that. It's like, well, you

1444
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 2: know Elia's by, but like I don't know if Connor

1445
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: is by. You know, it's like would it be better

1446
01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: if Connor was gay or if Connor was by?

1447
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1448
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 2: Like this is where we start splitting hairs and so

1449
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 2: then so then to my my thing is always it's

1450
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: an interior experience.

1451
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: Therefore it's okay.

1452
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: But also you know this other thing of like we're

1453
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 2: not supporting gay creators. Well, I don't know, like we're

1454
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 2: perfect examples. It's like anytime we get a press release

1455
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 2: announcement for something we're working on, people fucking melt.

1456
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: Would be the ones on gay Twitter who just can't

1457
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: stand that we it's Anything's fine, It's like it is

1458
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: what it is, but like, don't pretend that you're rooting

1459
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: for gay guys all the time, Like, don't pretend you're

1460
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: rooting for gay guys when like bone Yang takes the

1461
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 1: fucking shit and it's take it that night, right exactly.

1462
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: So that's that's that's my that's my like stitch together.

1463
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 2: Take my other thing about heated rivalry, which I I

1464
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: go back and forth on whether I love or if

1465
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm like huh as like this story takes place over

1466
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 2: like seven years. All the needle drops our songs from

1467
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven.

1468
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like, give your eyes hot. It suddnshy.

1469
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 2: It's like, why that's playing him and a scene that's

1470
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: happening in like twenty seventeen.

1471
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: No problem. There's a little bit of a vibe of

1472
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: hunting Wives where you can tell it's so it's it's

1473
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: a little by the way. I think both produced by

1474
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: three Yarts love it. It's just a little cheaply done.

1475
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: No what Oh, yeah, you're right.

1476
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: Even even Franz Boi or I was like this all

1477
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 2: this Miley Cyrus stuff. It's like, we don't have a

1478
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 2: Miley budget for like her to write a song for us, right,

1479
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, they will now, they will now. But

1480
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm saying is there's something charming about it. Yes,

1481
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: there's something charming about like how we had no budget

1482
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: for the cultures.

1483
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's something charming about like you know,

1484
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: watching this get thrown together. But the thing that really

1485
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: and that's why, the thing that really makes it work

1486
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: is their chemistry and their performances. And I'm loving them

1487
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 1: on the press store. They're they're nailing it. It looks

1488
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: fun to me. I'm like, see it should that's I

1489
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: guess what sells something is when someone is out there

1490
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: having fun, you know what. Like people have a lot

1491
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: to say about Timothy Shallome. I think he needs to

1492
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: put his foot on the gas on this alay is no.

1493
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just if he's on top of the sphere.

1494
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: Oh you're crazy. You know his nerve he took a

1495
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: beta blocker. Oh yeah, that's that's our life saving tools. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: this is this is one of the greatest inventions in

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01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: modern than preparing ranel all.

1498
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: That's tough. They they could have named that better. That's

1499
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 2: because that's getting me. That's getting my heart rate up.

1500
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: Did you ever watch I guess I don't know what

1501
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: else to say about he did a rivalry. It rocks,

1502
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: It rock. I loved I. I was late to it

1503
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: because I was like, there's no way, and then I

1504
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: felt the way everyone else felt. I talked to someone

1505
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: and you know what they said. What they said he did.

1506
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: Rivalry gave me everything I was expecting from Life of

1507
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: a show Girl, And I was like, why that means.

1508
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. This necessarily tracks. But

1509
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: then he was like, let me explain. And by the way,

1510
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: I like Life of a show Girl. And if you

1511
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 1: think I'm lying, come up to me on the streets.

1512
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: Come up to me on the streets and tell me

1513
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: that you think I'm lying, and I'll show you my

1514
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: recently played Wow, I covered Elizabeth Taylor on the road,

1515
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: and you said that I'm in my Life of a

1516
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: show Girl era.

1517
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 2: You are in your Life of a show Girl era.

1518
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 2: I can't say that's interesting. I'm being a football player.

1519
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 1: No, I can't say what era I'm in. But anyway, uh,

1520
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: this person telling you that, Oh, they were like, it's

1521
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: a pop album. They're like, it has all those little

1522
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: bursts and it's like fun and it feels like like

1523
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: like like it's gonna like it just feels like non caloric,

1524
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: not in the way you're okay, but then by the

1525
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: end you're like, wow, surprised, I feel full, you know

1526
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: what I mean. Surprise?

1527
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I felt very full because I was like yeah,

1528
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,959
Speaker 2: because like for the first the first three episodes is like, okay,

1529
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 2: this is I'm along for the ride, but I'm not

1530
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 2: sure what to track.

1531
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: And then episode five I was like that this is cinema.

1532
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: Oh no episode. At the end of episode five, I

1533
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm coming to the I was like

1534
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: and I was like wait. And then you know, it's

1535
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: one of the highest rated episodes on IMDb, like ever fixed.

1536
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,440
Speaker 1: It's up there with like white caps from the Sopranos.

1537
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: Love that you have made a fool of me fe

1538
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: with these Hawes. I'm Carmela. You're Carmel. You are Carmela.

1539
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're doctor Melfie. Are you laughing? Because

1540
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: you know it's true. She's She's an icon, a full

1541
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: blown it's the glasses. It's the glasses. It's the bronco

1542
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: of it, all right, right right, I'm wait.

1543
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 2: The cottage. This is this is the thing. My fantasy

1544
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 2: is a lake house in Ontario. I know you've been

1545
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: saying that. I can't believe. I can't believe you can

1546
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 2: still do it.

1547
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: I can still do it. He feels like you can't

1548
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: do it anymore. He's like, oh, now that the cottage

1549
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 1: is in culture. I can't have the cotton.

1550
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 2: Now that, now that an Asian guy has a cottage

1551
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: in Ontario, I can't do it. No, I understand what

1552
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: they're saying now about it being life of a show,

1553
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,839
Speaker 2: because it is. It is giving you a sense of safety. Yeah,

1554
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 2: because this is the thing about like the no conflict thing.

1555
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm not being snarky, by the way.

1556
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, I love the fact that it's like,

1557
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: here's a problem, my dad's homophobic. Two things later, he's dead.

1558
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 2: Here's a problem. Spoiler alert. Sorry, here's a problem. My

1559
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 2: parents aren't aren't gonna be okay with the fact that

1560
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 2: I'm gay. Two things later, we love that you're gay.

1561
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: You're perfect.

1562
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 2: We love that you love that you're gay. Yeah, why

1563
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 2: didn't you text me back? No problem later?

1564
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 1: In honesty was like as bad as their communication was. Oh,

1565
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: this is why I wanted to say. It surprised me

1566
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: so much and why I loved it because you know what,

1567
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: it reminded me of one of my favorite movies, Love

1568
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: in Basketball. Oh, yes, you've said this. It reminded me

1569
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: so much of Love in Basketball, which is a classic

1570
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: and it's actually criterion and if you didn't know. Now

1571
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: you know Gina Prince byThe would an underrated director by

1572
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: the way, who's gone on to do so many more

1573
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: things since then. She actually did The Woman King and

1574
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: But but what I loved about it was like the

1575
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: time laps really helped the romance. The fact that it

1576
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: was like sports but not really like they were passionate

1577
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: about something else, and also each other. The fact that

1578
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 1: it was like will they won't they? Over the years

1579
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: like believably felt like you were growing alongside them. But

1580
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: it moved quickly, you know what I mean? Like I

1581
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: just like and it was very sexy, like Ellen b.

1582
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 1: I think it would have felt weird if it was

1583
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,719
Speaker 1: like chaste sexuality or miss gay show. Because gay guys

1584
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 1: just be we just fucked and they're athletes. Yeah, exactly,

1585
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: they're They're healthy. No, that ass was made to thrust like,

1586
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't made to like when you're not gonna see

1587
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: just like it's this is not the age of innocence.

1588
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 2: No, like, gay guys fuck, gay athletes fuck period.

1589
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: Hopefully they fuck us in Milan. Have you thought about that?

1590
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: Now?

1591
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: Other thing? Did you ever watch the End of an

1592
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: Era documentary? I because I did it twice. Oh my god,

1593
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: six episodes, did each one twice? Unapologetic? Unapologetic?

1594
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: No, But I love that we have committed to film

1595
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 2: the tortured Poets portion of the air story.

1596
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: Here's what I love about the documentary because I do

1597
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: think it wants you to know a few things. It

1598
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: wants to remind you she's brilliant, Yes, and I think

1599
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: it does do that. Like there's scenes of her playing guitar,

1600
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: like rehearsing her like and on the piano, like rehearsing

1601
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: her surprise songs and everything, and like you you do

1602
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: see how it really every element of that like was

1603
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 1: her vision. She truly is in control of it. Like,

1604
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: so I think, like, after all of the discourse about her,

1605
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 1: the documentary wants you to know she is a talent

1606
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 1: and can we put that to rest. Yeah, there's the

1607
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: weird thing where when Life of a show Girl came

1608
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: out and some people took umbrage with a lot of

1609
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: the lyrics that she's like not a good writer. I

1610
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: think it's truly silly. Even I actually do think that

1611
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: people have Taylor Swift arrangement syndrome.

1612
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 2: Well, they have a derangement syndrome, and they have like

1613
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: an amnesia back.

1614
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: In the day, like everyone had everything to say, because

1615
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: then the whole media thing. There's a reason why reputation

1616
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: exists right now, and it's because there was a widespread

1617
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: notion that she was like, yeah, terrible, like and there

1618
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: was like, you know whatever, like quote unquote the receipts

1619
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: to prove that, and then she genuinely like fought back

1620
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: from like whatever hell she was in to do this.

1621
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 1: But she's able to do that because she is that talented.

1622
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: So there's that. The documentary also wants you to know

1623
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: that it's not about money, uh huh, Like there's a

1624
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: part where Andrea Swift is like, you know, it's always

1625
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: just been about her sharing her music and doing that

1626
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: and et cetera. And I think that might be the

1627
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: part that's tough for people to buy, especially because of like,

1628
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, just like people's assessment of her and the

1629
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: story about how much money she's worth and how much

1630
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: money the tour makes and the variance of it all,

1631
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: et cetera. But you can leave the documentary thinking, like,

1632
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: you know what, this is an extremely generative person and

1633
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 1: because she's generating a lot, she sells a lot, and

1634
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: she's also like meaningfully.

1635
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 2: Diverting a lot of those funds to like the people

1636
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 2: who make that tour happen.

1637
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: Right, And so I think that that's obviously a focus

1638
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: of it as well. And I think finally they want

1639
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: you to know that her values are liberal. There's a

1640
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 1: lot in the documentary about her dancers. She really puts

1641
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: a lot of the spotlight on her dancers and the

1642
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: highlight on her dancers and how gender is not a

1643
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: thing on stage. Like one of the dancers, one of

1644
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: the male dancers, his dream is to dance ready for It,

1645
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: but ready for It is like an all girl number,

1646
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: and the arc of the episode is him get to

1647
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: do it because she allows him to do it, and

1648
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: he fucking crushes and you know, you you then look

1649
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: at the stage and you think of the show and

1650
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: you're like, oh wow, I never thought that that person

1651
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: would never care about or shouldn't be way of acting

1652
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: like this, et cetera. Like it really is like a

1653
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: pretty lovely display of diversity in that respect, in all respects.

1654
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: So I think in terms of all that stuff, like

1655
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: it's super successful and you get the I think very

1656
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: cool stuff which is watching them record their albums, which

1657
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: I love I can't see enough of Ariana do Yes, Yes, Yes,

1658
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: or anybody. Taylor's great to watch and I have such

1659
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: an appreciation of her. Watching Ariana is like something different because,

1660
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: like I just I think she's truly a genius in

1661
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: the studio. The way she comps her own vocals and stuff.

1662
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: I would kill, I would pay to be a fly

1663
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: on the wall. Just watch her in the studio for it.

1664
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: Like should let you?

1665
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: I to answer your question, I think Internal Sunshine is

1666
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 2: her best produced album because it was it was like

1667
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 2: it was, it was it was Max and her and Leah.

1668
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: When are we going to the tour? I guess we're

1669
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 1: going New York Barclays Is it Barclay's. She's doing Barklays

1670
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: an MSG? I think, Okay, that's chic. Yeah, I wonder

1671
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: how that's like. But I've seen that happen before. People

1672
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: do Barclay's nmstr YEA yeah, yeah, we'll do that. Should

1673
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: we talk about let's see what nick I'm gonna cop

1674
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: to something. Okay, I'm gonna cop to something. So when

1675
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: that happened with Turning Points, you thought it was A.

1676
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 1: I No, I knew it was her by the way,

1677
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: anyone being like Nikki, we lost her. She's been gone,

1678
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: she's been gone, and this the writing was on the

1679
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: wall for this because the fact is Nicki Minaj was

1680
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: kicked out of mainstream culture because she's married to a

1681
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: sex offender, unrepentant. She allegedly, allegedly was intimidating his victims

1682
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: from from like saying anything, doing anything whatever, that's legend.

1683
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: And she was picking fights with everyone in music and

1684
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: it was out of pocket, and she was obviously a

1685
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 1: bully and unwell. So that's why she went to Turning

1686
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 1: Point because she needed an audience at all. She probably wants, like,

1687
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, something out of the president too at some point.

1688
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: But like she clearly didn't believe one word or what

1689
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: she was saying. That was the most inauthentic thing I've

1690
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: ever fucking seen.

1691
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: Maybe she does now because it's like it's being a validating.

1692
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 1: I don't I don't thin. I think she's like gone,

1693
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: gone sure, the whole thing of like it's okay to

1694
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: be a boy. I was like, you're saying this to

1695
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: be mean spirited because you feel like but hurt and

1696
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 1: disappointed that the people who made your career now take

1697
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: umbrage with the bullshit that you're doing and so you're

1698
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: railing against them. You don't actually believe that, But anyway,

1699
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: fuck her. But I will say because I knew she

1700
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: was gone forever the day after I took my moment

1701
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 1: to listen to her music for the last time. And

1702
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: what did you think? It's sad.

1703
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 2: It's sad, but you know it's there. Well, there are,

1704
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 2: there are others, there will be others. I said goodbye,

1705
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 2: you said goodbye.

1706
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: I said goodbye, and then I streamed in my the

1707
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: drama and I watched Cardi be amazing on drag Race.

1708
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 1: So good.

1709
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have nothing else to add.

1710
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: I was just like, I was just it was, it was.

1711
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 2: It was all over my FYP and well, of course, right,

1712
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 2: I was like, uh huh, it was ridiculous.

1713
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: Everything about everything going on with the GOP right now

1714
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Obviously it's been that way. But I'm loving

1715
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: watching them fall apart, and I do think that's what's happening.

1716
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: What else, Housewives? I what do you think of the

1717
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: Meredith of it all? And salt like, I don't counter out,

1718
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 1: I definitely don't counter out, but what something is fishy

1719
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: about it? To me? What part like the fact that

1720
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 1: she's being pushed. So sure this is the case. I see,

1721
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't get what the case is. Well, I think

1722
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: what they're trying to say is that she's got an

1723
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: alcohol or drug problem, like Mary being like I see it,

1724
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean? Like right, I don't know.

1725
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: I guess, like, do you feel as viewers we are

1726
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: seeing what they are claiming they're seeing.

1727
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think we are not seeing the flight the

1728
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 2: flight footage, which I guess is like.

1729
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 1: I texted Andy about it. I was like, does it exist?

1730
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 1: He said no, we would have shown it. That's so wild.

1731
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: By the way, just to make this explicitly clear, oh god,

1732
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 1: I have never had sex with Andy Cohen. I will

1733
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 1: never have sex with Andy Cohen at one point I

1734
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to in the very very very beginning,

1735
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 1: but if we were gonna have fucked, it would have

1736
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: happened by now, probably many times. If you ever see

1737
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: me talking to Andy in a way that would suggest

1738
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: we've had sex, it's because we are flirting, because it's funny.

1739
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: He is a friend, he is now our boss. That's

1740
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: what the extent of it. And if you're gonna make

1741
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 1: fucking com about this, like get this person's fucking name right. Yeah,

1742
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: that one girls called me Matt Fraser, which obviously, like

1743
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: I think it was a mistake. But I sometimes think

1744
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: that straight women just need to stop and remember they

1745
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: are straight women before they talk about the way that

1746
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: gay guys are being sure, you know, just like before

1747
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: you talk about the way gay guys are being understand,

1748
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 1: like there might be something else there, like and of

1749
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: course it is like loose between gay men. We just

1750
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: don't think about this stuff as much as you guys are.

1751
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: But Andy and I are having fun. We do owe

1752
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 1: him a book. That's why he said that to us.

1753
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: That's why I said we were gonna have time to

1754
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: work on it soon, thinley veil delusion to the fact

1755
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 1: that we now have a lot more time to work

1756
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: on it. Like there is no drama or tension between

1757
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen and I nothing.

1758
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 2: I don't know about the Meredith at all anyway.

1759
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 1: We love her, we love the Marxies love and I

1760
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: just but I'm just like, I just wish I was

1761
01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 1: seeing right what they're seeing totally. I am.

1762
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: I did start watching The Cult of the Real House,

1763
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 2: so if the Miriam Cosby doc I don't know what

1764
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 2: was what was going on.

1765
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is is it not? No?

1766
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 2: I just like whatever case you're trying to make here,

1767
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, but.

1768
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: All those documentaries are sarch know.

1769
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 2: But it's also like they use a lot of like

1770
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 2: our content also like a lot of our a lot

1771
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 2: of friends who like make House. They take clips of

1772
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: like us, like getting Charlie XX to talk about Miriam

1773
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 2: Cosby and how much she loves her like exactly. It's like, oh,

1774
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 2: well you didn't clear that with That's not that they

1775
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 2: like had to legally, but I'm like, oh, like it

1776
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 2: just I don't know. It just kind of seems this

1777
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 2: is not to like minimize any of the allegations. It's

1778
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, persuasive stuff used to mean something.

1779
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: Right, Oh well not anymore. Nothing means anything anything. I

1780
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: opened my algorithm now and it's like it's all AI

1781
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: and I don't want it. And I'm like, how would

1782
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: anyone coming into the world be able to believe anything?

1783
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: At this point? And I think the AI conversation is

1784
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 1: also so boring.

1785
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:13,839
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, at this point what feels like like irallly

1786
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 2: is like it's inevitable, It's like right, but also like

1787
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 2: I don't think the appetite for this is linearly going

1788
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 2: to grow, Like no.

1789
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: No, no, it's people, I think. I think the vast

1790
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: majority of people have no appetite for it. But this

1791
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: idea like it's coming in you have to deal with

1792
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: it is making people like sort of resign. Yeah, And

1793
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: I just don't want people to you like, I guess,

1794
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: like you can resign to learning, I guess how to

1795
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 1: use AI well or correctly. But what I don't like

1796
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:45,600
Speaker 1: are people resigning themselves to giving up their creativity or

1797
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 1: their autonomy in terms of like finding information or creating

1798
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: stuff like that to me is bad And I think

1799
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 1: it's confusing when you're like, it's here, get used to it?

1800
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 1: What is that? What does get used to it? Mean?

1801
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: It's just like an It's like an en geesus I

1802
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: now have about it.

1803
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 2: But those are the same people who are like having

1804
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 2: casual conversations with chat cheepy t being like what's your

1805
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 2: how are you? It's like what did you do?

1806
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 1: What are you doing? You can just killed some penguins.

1807
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 1: There's gonna be way less penguins from Bowens, and I

1808
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 1: want to see them. He wants to see them bad.

1809
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: This is the trip of a lifetime.

1810
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, you know what I think you might

1811
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 2: be ready for movie wise, I go back to that conversation. Yes,

1812
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 2: we someone washing it on a plane in front of

1813
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 2: me that you know is my fucking nightmare. No, well

1814
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 2: then yeah, I think you might be ready for sentimental value.

1815
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 2: It's not like completely of course I am you have

1816
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 2: you seen it yet? It's not like completely what it's

1817
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 2: not like completely devastating the way that Hamnet allegedly is,

1818
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I heard Catherine's great in it. Catherine is

1819
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 2: so funny and Catherine you can tell that Jokim loves her.

1820
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 1: I just saw Catherine. We just saw Catherine Edgel Kim's

1821
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 1: wedding and I was like, what are great?

1822
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 2: She's so funny in the Running Man. She's been bookingh

1823
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 2: She's I'm worth worth thrilled, fucking love that.

1824
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like, what else, like there has been?

1825
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: Does any music come out? December? January is always a

1826
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: tough time. Yeah, well, we didn't really ever get a

1827
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 1: chance to talk about Lily Allen. We like it as

1828
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: much as everyone. And then there was also what else, Well,

1829
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: next week Robin will be here and that's going to

1830
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 1: be very exciting and and that's that. That's that. So

1831
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 1: I guess it's time for I don't think so, honey. Yes,

1832
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 1: this is the pot where we do. I don't think so, honey.

1833
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: It's our sixty second segment where we rant rail rave

1834
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 1: and turn the party ultimately. And by turn the party

1835
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 1: we mean hopefully change hearts and minds about this thing

1836
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: and culture that we just think needs. I think I will. Yeah,

1837
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 1: I do too.

1838
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 2: Okay, great, anyway, I'm sure you will. This is Matt Rogers.

1839
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't think so many as time starts now.

1840
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Gavin Newsom, if you're gonna

1841
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: run for president, you need vocal surgery. Oh, you need

1842
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 1: to remove the polyps on your vocal cords. Listening to

1843
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: you is a nightmare, and I have a feeling you're

1844
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 1: gonna be talking a lot. I don't necessarily want that.

1845
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: I don't think we will win with him. But just

1846
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 1: go to La ask people how they feel being there.

1847
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: But anyway, I do think that while there's a lot

1848
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 1: of crises in the world, the number one one actionable

1849
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: thing that Gavin Newsom can do right now is tech.

1850
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,879
Speaker 1: Savannah Garthrie and get whoever just did her vocal surgery.

1851
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 1: She just had the poll up surgery. You're gonna need

1852
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 1: to be silent for about six weeks afterwards. But don't worry.

1853
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 1: You can still tweet. You can still dunk on Trump,

1854
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: which is apparently something that people still think is gonna

1855
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 1: like win, and not speaking directly actionably to people and

1856
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: their concerns, like say Bernie Sanders does, who is the

1857
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 1: only durable remaining politician over the last decade that's been

1858
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: like consistent and still around the meaningful way take notes maybe,

1859
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: but in the meantime, I need to stop hearing your

1860
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 1: voice as it is.

1861
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 2: That's one minute, get vocal surgery, and finish the damn

1862
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 2: four h five.

1863
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 1: No, he won't do that. Why nothing will happen in

1864
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 1: California because he's too busy. He's busy doing other shit.

1865
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 1: And then I get calls from council people who are

1866
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 1: running in LA and I tell them exactly what I

1867
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 1: fucking feel, and they're like, oh, well, it's just hard

1868
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: because this, and I'm like, then, talk to big Boy.

1869
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: Talk to big boy. Talk to big Boy and get

1870
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: him to fucking fix California, because it's never been worse. No,

1871
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 1: so you think you're gonna be the governor of California

1872
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 1: with that hair and that ex girlfriend of Kimberly Gilfoyle

1873
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 1: and that voice and that podcast with the Steve Bannon feature.

1874
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 1: Just getting to keep this boy? I forgot that. No,

1875
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 1: it's a mess. And I think that because he thinks

1876
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: he can like troll Trump or whatever, and that people

1877
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: know who he is because he makes a fucking spectacle

1878
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: of himself, that he's going to be the one to

1879
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 1: lead us forward. Let's run Bernie again. Bernie is the

1880
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: only politician who says exactly what he feels. And I

1881
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:20,480
Speaker 1: do mean the only one, Bernie, come on, last coat. Sure, absolutely,

1882
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 1: he is the only person who's actually nobleshit.

1883
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 2: This is This is another thing about early days, last culture.

1884
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 2: I regret is being a Hillary eve Stan.

1885
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: I can't it because I think we were trying really

1886
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 1: hard to just win. I know, but I feel so silly.

1887
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,719
Speaker 1: I here's what I'll say. The president should I believe

1888
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 1: the president should have been Elizabeth Warren.

1889
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 2: You and many many of the of the smart Brooklyn

1890
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 2: gays are aligned in this.

1891
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure we all like share like a certain ideology

1892
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: about all this. But the fact is like the reason

1893
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: we were Hillary stance is because at the time it

1894
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 1: was like the Burnie thing. Remember you remember twenty sixteen.

1895
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:04,759
Speaker 1: I remember like it was like it got a little

1896
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: thick there with like the way people were talking on

1897
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: the Bernie side, and it was misogynistic and it was tough,

1898
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 1: and I think at the time there was a very

1899
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: girl bossy like obamacorush like.

1900
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 3: Hey, don't talk like that, We're gonna crash the glass

1901
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 3: ceiling girl, And I pull my head, check my nails.

1902
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,759
Speaker 1: It was a very that and so I don't I don't.

1903
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: I don't look back in regrets because we were part

1904
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: of the culture, we were part of. Should we have

1905
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: listened to the populist message all along? Is that ultimately

1906
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 1: what would work for them? Yes, it's not gonna be

1907
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsome. And when any time a politician is making

1908
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: it too obviously about themselves, I'm already done. Don't waste

1909
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 1: your money. Sending to Jasmine Crockett, do not do it.

1910
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: I must agree, don't do it. Don't you're gonna waste

1911
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 1: your money. Take it from someone who sent Sara Gideon

1912
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,759
Speaker 1: like a ton of money in Maine, like, just don't

1913
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 1: do it. Don't waste your money. Don't do it.

1914
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Speaker 2: It's hard enough to come by another thing. I remember

1915
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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen while I was reminded of it and heated rivalry.

1916
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 2: That was the year that Boston won.

1917
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, hard to keep track of the sports.

1918
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Speaker 1: And by the way, I am not being like fatalist

1919
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 1: about the Domino. No no, no, no, no no no. I'm just

1920
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:23,679
Speaker 1: saying they are giving us a wide open opportunity here.

1921
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: Let's not flop by putting up what they said, what

1922
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 1: everyone said they hated in the beginning, which is an

1923
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 1: establishment like California Democrat, like it doesn't work.

1924
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 2: Who was doing it in the same way that like

1925
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 2: they've all been doing it where it's always failed. Where

1926
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 2: it's like like Colbert was asking point blank, like will

1927
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 2: you run for president?

1928
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 1: He's like, that's not my focus right now. And by

1929
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 1: the way, that is a version of his voice that's

1930
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 1: like sounds like Crystal Clear, get a fucking surgeon. It's

1931
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 1: just it's so sick. And who is not telling him this?

1932
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: What if you get hired to be part of I

1933
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: should be his rama, Manuel, I would get him together.

1934
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 1: What you guys don't know is I'm rama Manuel in

1935
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 1: like a county gay way. Ooh, and then you're gonna

1936
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 1: be mayor of Chicago? Is he mayor? I think he

1937
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: was mary of he I know he was like Obama's

1938
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: chief of staff, right, and he was like known as

1939
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: being like a real dick, but like he got shipped done.

1940
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: Chief of staff is such an interesting position. Did you

1941
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: read that Susie Wiles article? No? Oh, that was t okay.

1942
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: I've been in my politics back.

1943
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 2: I am see this is me like I'm getting off

1944
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 2: my spaceship and then like i am ready to touch

1945
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 2: things in the world.

1946
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 1: That I've been away from. Does that make sense? Okay?

1947
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Speaker 3: Yes.

1948
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: Let me just qualify the Jasmin Crockett thing. She's not

1949
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 1: gonna win a Senate seat in Texas. You guys, like

1950
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: if Beato oarar couldn't do it, Like Jasmine Crockett is

1951
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 1: not going to do it. She is in and it's

1952
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 1: the real It's nothing against her. It's just but that

1953
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: she is a politician and that she is like, you know,

1954
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 1: like very well defined already. And I think it's my

1955
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 1: opinion that we are going to need someone who is

1956
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 1: less defined at this moment that then rises up like

1957
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm interested in this tallar Rico guy from Texas. Oh,

1958
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't know him. I'm just interested in him, you

1959
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm like, oh, I haven't seen

1960
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 1: him before. It would be hard for them to define

1961
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: him as anything other than what he is, which is

1962
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 1: like a rising democratic politician from someplace like Texas who

1963
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 1: is like, yes, speaking a little bit to the middle,

1964
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: but at least he's someone that like we can't define already,

1965
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Gavin Newsom is defined.

1966
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: I believe Jasmine Crockett is defined. Yep. Like I'm just

1967
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 1: trying to win here, and I really feel differently than

1968
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 1: we did in twenty sixteen, like the way to win

1969
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: now is to like go with the energy.

1970
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 2: I did just get a text from the people who

1971
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 2: helped me write her into a sketch. Who Tricia pays

1972
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 2: is mulling a run for Congress. I think I'm gonna

1973
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 2: say as as as I feel like, Tricia, you don't

1974
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 2: have to do it, just you're don't.

1975
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: Worry about it. Who told you this?

1976
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:16,759
Speaker 2: I'm seeing on Twitter that Tricia Padus, californ Tricia Paytis

1977
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 2: is mulling a run for Congress, lives in Westlake Village,

1978
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 2: so would put her in collision course with Julia Browne

1979
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 2: unless she is, Oh, I have my block on my Twitter.

1980
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 1: But she Tricia, you don't have to do that. Don't

1981
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: have to do that.

1982
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 2: Authenticity. We're winning that. We're back to being authentic. We're

1983
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 2: back to being authentic. Oh god, yeah, Oh I love it.

1984
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 2: They said we were done, they said we were Now next.

1985
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: Week, Robin's gonna come in and they're gonna be like,

1986
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 1: why are they kissing Robin's ass. Here's why we're kissing

1987
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 1: Robin's ass because she's a pop culture icon and I

1988
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 1: can say with already we're gonna kiss her ass.

1989
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be okay, it's gonna be great. It's

1990
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 2: still gonna be a taste like Cherry. It's gonna be

1991
01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 2: a free show with twenty minutes of ads that you

1992
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 2: can ask forward through.

1993
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 1: But by the way, we apologize about the ads and

1994
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 1: we've made chain. We're figuring that out. Also, last call Trees.

1995
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 1: This is so it's all just I'm talking to celebrities.

1996
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 2: We've had like friends on the show, like the all

1997
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: like all of Q four down.

1998
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 1: It's like all the criticism, I'm like, but what about this,

1999
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 1: it's easily disproven. I like, it's like, we'll have what.

2000
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 2: I don't care, guys, let us do it, like, let

2001
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 2: us do the show our way, okay, and it's.

2002
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let us cook. And also like it's

2003
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 1: it's just that we're like, if we're not doing it

2004
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 1: exactly like this, it's just because we wanted to make

2005
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: sure that that the show was released and we had

2006
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,799
Speaker 1: agree we're just gonna go off in December. Oh my.

2007
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 1: My least favorite thing is when they dragged us for

2008
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 1: doing three episodes in one day. They were like, I

2009
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 1: can't believe they would ever do three episodes one day.

2010
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 1: You mean work for eight hours straight? Yeah, I'm sorry,

2011
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,520
Speaker 1: that doesn't you're crazy with your ethics. I don't understand

2012
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 1: why that's an issue. And then they go, well, match

2013
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 1: should have at least changed his shirt. Fuck. I was like,

2014
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: I put on a different overshirt, you asshole. Leave me

2015
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: alone or else or else. This is the last time.

2016
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 2: This is truly, this is the last time all year

2017
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 2: we're gonna be addressing this.

2018
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 1: No, because this and this has been so cathartic. This

2019
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:20,839
Speaker 1: actually is called exit Interview parentheses. The cathartic episode because

2020
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: I am never looking at this again, and I spread

2021
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: to God mark my words. Wait, we should really do this.

2022
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 1: We should get brick.

2023
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,759
Speaker 2: I have two bricks at my house. And there's also Opal,

2024
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 2: which I love. What's oh, it's an app that blocks

2025
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 2: things for you, but if you want to, you know,

2026
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 2: if you want to take a break, you can take

2027
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 2: a break throughout the day, which I do. Or it'll

2028
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 2: ask you if you're sure you want to take a break,

2029
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 2: and then it'll present you if you want like a

2030
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 2: math puzzle or a puzzle that will give you a

2031
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 2: quick dopamine hit. And then it's like, so you got

2032
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 2: your dopamine hit? Do you s don't want to take

2033
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 2: a break? It's cute. It's like, yeah, it's really getting

2034
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:55,919
Speaker 2: in the way of like you like mindlessly scrolling. Yeah,

2035
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 2: and I would love to do less of Oh, absolutely,

2036
01:44:58,600 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't we all?

2037
01:44:59,479 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: I think?

2038
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 2: But I I think there's like a I think there's

2039
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,560
Speaker 2: like a thing now where it's like this again, like

2040
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 2: the comment or survivorship thing. It's like anyone who like

2041
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 2: has some sense of like self protection is like weaning

2042
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 2: off of the phone in their own meaningful way.

2043
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, in an era when so much is changing anyway,

2044
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 1: why not change this one totally.

2045
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, I just remember the day when like I

2046
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 2: left Facebook just sort of cold Turkey and I quit

2047
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 2: smoking cold Twitter. You did, huh, because this is my thing,

2048
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 2: Like I gotta tell this.

2049
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 1: I think this is good. I got a swite at

2050
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 1: the Chelsea Hotel. You do that's like a customary thing

2051
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: you do at the end of the season.

2052
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 2: I've done it once before with celestin'stair, but I got

2053
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 2: it for myself, and like I had friends over and

2054
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 2: we had fun, and then I just had like a

2055
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 2: two days to myself at the Chelsea Hotel. And then

2056
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 2: they got me the balcony suite, which is like like

2057
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 2: the only sort of balcony that like, letnic looks at

2058
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 2: the Hotel Chelsea sign. And so then like someone left

2059
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 2: like a pack of cigarettes and I like smoked. I

2060
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 2: smoked one on the balcony and then I like looked

2061
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,600
Speaker 2: up like right before I was gonna check out, and

2062
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 2: I was like, this would be a shitch places to

2063
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 2: just quit smoking after I finish us and l I'm

2064
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 2: at the Hotel Chelsea, I'm on the balcony. This is

2065
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 2: the last one I've since had like cigarettes, I'm just

2066
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 2: never buying my own again.

2067
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no quit. I've since had several no no, no,

2068
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 1: So it's not.

2069
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 2: Cold turkey, but it's like, I'm never gonna buy my

2070
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 2: own cigarettes ever again. That is my thing, and I

2071
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 2: get to I get to have one, like if i've

2072
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 2: like had a couple drinks.

2073
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 1: You remember the deal we made years ago.

2074
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 2: If I would quit smoking if you got if you

2075
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 2: were in therapy, and now you were. It's so it's

2076
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 2: so grossly inequitable that I am ready to be honest.

2077
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 2: I've just seen, unfortunately up close, what happens when what's

2078
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 2: what's happens when.

2079
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 1: Smoking and vaping gets out of hands. Yep. And I

2080
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: would tell everyone that as a person that's had a

2081
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 1: first hand account, do not fuck with it. And it

2082
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 1: is it has nothing to do with anything but the

2083
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: smoke and the vaping that I'm talking about, And I

2084
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 1: promise you your life will be better without it because

2085
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: think about it, Think about vaping. Think about how dumb

2086
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 1: it is not that you vape, but like it's you

2087
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 1: sucking on a machine. Who here does it show yourself?

2088
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:23,839
Speaker 1: You're all very afraid. I could come forward a fourteen

2089
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: year old was doing it next to me on the train.

2090
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 1: I was like, don't do it. Well, he'll be dead,

2091
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:29,719
Speaker 1: but just tell him he'll be dead by twenty Oh god,

2092
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 1: what he will?

2093
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 2: He will anyway, If you're vaping, you're gonna be dead.

2094
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 1: I've got I haven't. I don't think so Hony. Of

2095
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 1: course you do. Let's we've been here two hours. Let's

2096
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: let's should we should we split the episode into two? No? No, no, no,

2097
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 1: it's just going all right. This is a big shav

2098
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 1: of gonza. This is bowen yanks. I always go to

2099
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 1: the compass when I mean to go to the timer.

2100
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 1: It's okay, this is bowing yanks. I don't think so Hony.

2101
01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,879
Speaker 2: As time starts now, I don't think so many fries

2102
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 2: the table. This is a myth that it's something that

2103
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 2: everyone loves. Think about it. Everyone's like, yes, fries with

2104
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 2: the table. Does it ever get fucking finished? It's a

2105
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 2: huge waste. You get little potato confetti sitting in a

2106
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 2: fucking cone. At the end of the night, no one's

2107
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 2: touching it. After five minutes, it's completely gone. You have

2108
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 2: a full cup of aoli there because guess what aoli? Also,

2109
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: fucking sucks. No one in the Western hemisphere cares for it.

2110
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 2: I only contains multitudes. It's ketchup all the way. Don't

2111
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 2: even bother with the Aoli with the mayonnaise. This is

2112
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 2: We're in new We're in America. As as unpatriotic as

2113
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 2: I might be right now, I still care about that

2114
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 2: with our Olympics podcast, ketchup for mayo and Aoli fries.

2115
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 2: With the table, it's it's a lie. It's like it's

2116
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 2: we all think we're all on board for it, and

2117
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 2: then no one fucking touches it by the end five seconds.

2118
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's just get real.

2119
01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 2: Let's get real in twenty twenty six, Okay, to the table,

2120
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 2: it's it's just a myth.

2121
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 1: No one cares. That's one minute.

2122
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:07,799
Speaker 2: What's what I I ask me anything?

2123
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 1: I will. I'm just gathering my thoughts. What are you

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Speaker 1: talking about?

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Speaker 2: It is a fantasy, it is. It is in some

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Speaker 2: of the film are yes, but in theory, fries to

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Speaker 2: the table makes total sense. Right, Oh, everyone's gonna nibble

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Speaker 2: on fries. No one's touching it. Within five minute? Can

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Speaker 2: I ask you a question of it hitting the table?

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Speaker 2: No one is touching the fries. After five minute, everyone's like, oh, yes,

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Speaker 2: for ill, such a good idea. No one gives a

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Speaker 2: shit after five minutes. Can I ask you a question?

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Speaker 2: But first, can I say one thing?

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Speaker 1: And it's a real culture Ooh mommy, more like ooh daddy,

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Speaker 1: that's a real coachre number three? Ooh mommy, more like

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01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 1: ooh daddy. I say that because ketchup is ooh mommy.

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Speaker 1: What about this? Two orders of fries for the table? No,

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Speaker 1: so ways, I'm saying even one order. But can I

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Speaker 1: ask you a question? Do you think that? Do you

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01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:01,480
Speaker 1: think that the reason why one batchel of doesn't everyone's

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01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 1: too shy. It's because everyone's like, oh, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to put my hand in the one batch of fries.

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Speaker 1: Whereas if just if say it's a party of four,

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Speaker 1: right instead of one group of fries in the t.

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Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, I think we can all agree

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Speaker 1: that everyone wants fries.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, starting there, order your own fries. No, that's

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Speaker 2: too much, because this, Matt, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: Four orders of fries on the table.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Matt, I've been I've shut up, I've

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Speaker 2: bought enough, I've paid for enough, tables at the S

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Speaker 2: and L after party, because that's something we had to do.

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Speaker 1: They still have to do.

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Speaker 2: I've had to pay for so many fries for the tables.

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Speaker 2: I've seen, I've seen it. This is I'm practically from

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Speaker 2: experience talking about how you.

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Speaker 1: Could teach a college semit. I could teach a.

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Speaker 2: College seminar on this, a media studies seminar on fries

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Speaker 2: to the table being sort of a societal ideal that

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Speaker 2: never really gets.

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Speaker 1: Fully enjoyed. That's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm just saying I've seen. I have so many

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Speaker 2: data points about this. Oh, there's another half full thing

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Speaker 2: of fries. Yeah, that was that was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: for everybody.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like it would be a shame for

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Speaker 1: there to be no fries. Oh, and I think to

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Speaker 1: everyone ordering their own fries is too much.

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Speaker 2: If one person orders their own fries, they're not going

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Speaker 2: to finish all of them, and then that invites other

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Speaker 2: people that's able to be like, can I have some

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01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:27,719
Speaker 2: of your fries, Matt, and you'll be like, of course,

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Speaker 2: and then those get finished.

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Speaker 1: I would I guess I would rather that already be

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Speaker 1: an assumed fact that of course you can have some

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01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 1: of these fries because they're everyone's fries. Also, maybe you're

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Speaker 1: just not dining with the right people. Also, you don't

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Speaker 1: talk about the people I dine with. I will talk

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Speaker 1: about the people you dine with. I just dine with

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Speaker 1: you the other night, And how was that experience? Lovely?

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01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 1: You had some nasty things to say about aoli. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't care for it.

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Speaker 2: I only care about mayonnaise if it's used to help

2184
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Speaker 2: toast a grilled cheese.

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Speaker 1: Is I only mayonnaise?

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Speaker 2: I hadn't really thought about that, basically, Huh.

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Speaker 1: It's like a gee, okay, what about Jon Mustard? I

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01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 1: love Jon Mustard. You're gonna be wishing there was fries

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Speaker 1: on the table to have with some of those. No.

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Speaker 1: I like Djon when it's it's an a sandwich. I

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Speaker 1: like Djon when it's my last name, Matt Dijon. I

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Speaker 1: love it. Remember when my remember my first name, Iran,

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Speaker 1: Iran Dijon from the Middle Yeast, the Middle Yeast. She

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01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: was spicy and unstable, just like my borders. This was

2195
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 1: back in the day when you could be a little on,

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Speaker 1: you could be a little problematic because no one was listening.

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Speaker 2: Ah ah, And what how does that make you feel

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Speaker 2: she's okay with it.

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Speaker 1: In Sha La, you're okay with it.

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Speaker 2: I'm allowed to say in Sha La.

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Speaker 1: Studie Green told me I could, and then I sat

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Speaker 1: it in front of Metra and she wasn't so sure.

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01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 1: But in Cha La, you'll all let me get away

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Speaker 1: with that. At home the readers, the readers.

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Speaker 2: Well, this was a fantastic episode, I thought, so never

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01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 2: getting me to cry.

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01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:05,599
Speaker 1: Bitch, I cried too. We both cried. This was an

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01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:13,600
Speaker 1: emotional rollercoaster, cathartic release. The action interview hashed parentheses, a

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Speaker 1: cathartic episode, no real edits. I think, just the pickups

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Speaker 1: that I you know, I will tell you. I have

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Speaker 1: one edit after we end, and we on every episode

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Speaker 1: with the song, all the.

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01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 2: Things she said, all the things you said, run, run and.

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Speaker 1: Do it text in if you think we should be

2215
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 1: Ilia and Connor name Shane Connor is plays Ilia? Should

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Speaker 1: we be them?

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Speaker 2: For probably yes we will, but you be the white one.

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Speaker 2: I'll be the white one and I'll be the bottom.

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01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can you imagine seven years without ever

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01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:53,759
Speaker 2: changing your haircut? Like those boys?

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Speaker 1: Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Bye?

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Speaker 1: Wow? They never did last.

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Speaker 2: Culturacius is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players

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01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 2: in iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Podcasts created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang,

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01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 1: Executive produced by Anna Hasbier and produced by Decca Ramos,

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01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:11,600
Speaker 1: Edited and mixed by Doug Bain and Our music is

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01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 1: by Henry Komerski