WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Who's Better Than Dak? 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.280 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:19.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:24.360 label broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:30.040 Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and new he scrugs. 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.040 Here we are everybody. It's Friday. That means it's time 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.680 for the players. Lines from knew he scrugs Longtime Cowboys 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:43.000 reported joint by Danny McCray and Barry Church, two former 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:47.760 Dallas Cowboys safeties. All right, it's Friday, McCray, how are 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:52.520 we doing? Man? I'm doing good. Man. I'm sad about 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.240 my my picks from last week, you know, and I've 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.760 seen you over the haying non popados online, so I gotta, 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.000 I gotta, I gotta, I gotta correct that today. But 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.200 it's Friday. Man, I made it through another week, so 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:09.600 everything's good on my end. Church. But man, it's it's Friday. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.560 It's a beautiful Friday. It suns out. I might actually 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:17.280 hit the golf course after this, so it's an amazing day. 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.119 I'm back in Texas and I'm back in so look, man, 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:26.319 it's an amazing Friday. Amazing. Here's Here's what I absolutely 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.560 love about you, Church and the life you're living, man, 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.080 is that you can just decide, Hey, I think I'm 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.800 gonna go ahead and play golf after this. So golf 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.240 is at least a four hour it's at least a 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.480 four hour deal that you with young children can just 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.720 rolling out the door and your wife's like, cool, go ahead. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.080 I know I can't go from people last say you 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.000 play golf. It's like, na, I don't because it's at 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:50.840 least four hours to play, and you want to spend 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.880 some time after. So it's a five hour deal. My 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:54.440 wife ain gonna let me go nowhere. Just hey, I'm 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.120 gonna gona play a game, be going for five hours. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.240 But Church, you might hero. Man, I get to live 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.800 through you. Church. I'm living through you. I ain't gonna lie. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.800 I ain't gonna lie. I gotta take my son. I 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.720 gotta take him with me, So it ain't it ain't 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.720 just a complete just you know, dipping out of there. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.280 I gotta have him with me. But overall, man, and 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:11.760 you know, it's good to get out of the house. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.680 It's good to get out of the house and enjoy something. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:17.600 So I gotta do it all right, all good. Um, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.919 let's talk about a former teammate. UM. Jason Wit has retired. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.600 He played this year with the Las Vegas Raiders, decided 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.760 to retire for a second time. Where do you guys 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:34.320 rank with all time when it comes to NFL tight ends? Man, 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.919 go ahead, d mack Uh listen, when you talk about 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.960 all times, first of all all time Cowboys tight ends, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.240 I'm putting him in number one when you talk about 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:50.079 all time tight ends. As far as consistency, I'll put 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.080 him in number one. He isn't the most talented. He 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.840 isn't He isn't the most talented tight end that we've 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.840 ever seen play. You know, He's not like a grum 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.720 maybe a m some of the guys who can go 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.960 up and make those big time catches kind of like 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.760 Kelsey and get it play like receiver. But as far 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.000 as him being in the right place and always being 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.960 able to get open and maximizing his skill set, I 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.520 think he's done that better than almost any tight end 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.360 in history. He's I think he's leading in receptions. He 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:23.040 played with thirteen fourteen years. Uh. I'm not sure how 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.160 many games he missed, but it's not many. So he 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.120 is the model for consistency. So I'll put him at 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:29.920 the top as far as that. It's a few guys 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.600 ahead of him stat wise and talent wise, but he 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.160 ranks up there among among the top. Does he crack 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:41.400 the top five all time? For you? Of the tight 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.400 ends that I know I was, I was giving me 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.120 crazy cracks the top five. Okay, and listen, listen that 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.920 that that's not including grong that like the guys who 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:51.760 are still playing. I'm talking about guys who are no 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.720 longer playing sas he's going to be a retired guy. Now, okay, 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.720 all right, since since you could have liked that way, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.480 I see where you're coming from there. For me, like 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.080 you said, man, if we put them at the Cowboys list, 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.160 if we're saying like this is, you know, the all 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.880 time greatest, not even just tight end, just a Cowboy 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.040 player in general, I would definitely put him at the 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.960 number one at that spot. I mean, his intangibles on 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.440 the field and off the field were legendary. I mean, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.640 he's one of the greatest leaders I think I've ever 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.680 been around. And d Mac, I mean, I can't speak 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:22.960 for you, but I mean this guy leadership off the 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.480 field was immaculate. And his play on the field was 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.520 immaculate as well. And like you said, d Mac, he 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.840 was able to get the most out of his skill 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.320 set because he wasn't the fastest guy. He didn't run 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.080 the craziest routes, and he didn't get much separation from guys, 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:37.960 but he was able to come down with the ball 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.120 and he did it consistently. So in that regard, I 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.280 will put him number one when it comes to consistency 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.560 and just being a Dallas Cowboy player. Now, overall, with 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.240 all those tight ends out there, I mean you're talking 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.760 about the Kellen Winslows of the world, the Shannon Sharps 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.880 of the world. I mean I would put Gronk in 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.560 my top five as well. But overall, it's hard for 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.520 me to put him in that five. Man, it's hard 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.440 for me to do that. But when it comes to 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.200 consist to see and being that leader that he was, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.160 he's an all time great and he will be a 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.720 first ballot Hall of Famer. But top five is kind 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.160 of tough for me to do that just seeing all 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.279 the skill sets in the talent that other tight ends 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.200 had out there. But like I said before, mydet consistency, 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.960 he will be a first ballot Hall of Fame. Hey, Grom, 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.880 don't count man, he's still playing. He's still playing because 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.320 he was retiring hot but but but but he's but 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.359 he's back. In that case, you got to put Kelc 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.280 in there and uh In Kittle and all these guys 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.520 who that we assume are going to be great. Guy, 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.080 he's still playing. Once he retired, I probably put him 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.320 over with Jason Woodn't as far as the impact that 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.800 he was able to make on his team. But yeah, 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.920 he's still going. He's about to give him another Super 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.159 Bowl possibly, So I'm an hold off on that one. 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.159 Let me ask y'all both a quick question, real quick. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.120 Do y'all think the move to Oakland put any type 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.360 of stain on his career or do you think it 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.120 just you know, he just tried to go front of 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:57.600 the ship and it just didn't work out that way. Well, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:03.080 I don't year in the year in Vegas, um didn't 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.440 do anything at all in my opinion. Um, he was 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.200 already a legendary. You're talking about eleven time Pro Bowls 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.480 before he ever got there, All Pro first or second team, 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.640 five times number two all time and receptions number two 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.800 for a tight end number five all time and tight 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.600 ends uh touchdown lots. So I don't think it did 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.400 that at all. The Hall of Fame is littered with 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:30.239 guys who spent one or two years in a place 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.359 that you know, at the end of their career you're like, 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.240 oh yeah, honestly, I think you're gonna forget it. No, 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:40.080 do you remember Jerry Rice playing for the Raiders, the 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.560 Raiders or Seattle. Do you remember Doris Set with Denver 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.880 or Emmet in Arizona, Um, Johnny and idis and with 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.800 the Chargers, or Joe Nameeth with the Rams, So you 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:52.719 know this is you know, you know Ronny a lot 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.799 with the Jets. So I think that that's that's that's 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.719 no big deal at all. Um. Shannon Sharp is a 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.440 guy we didn't bring up here when we talk about 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.560 just you know, great tight ends of all time. And 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.039 Shannon played on three Super Bowl winners. And when I 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.600 think about the last team he played on, that Ravens 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.960 team where they had no wide receiver weapons that were 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.000 any good, it was basically the Shannon Sharp show. So 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:21.920 when I think about Shannon in his career, he was legendary. 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.600 I think Jason, first off, there's only eight tight end. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.120 I don't know if you guys knows, there's only eight 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.400 tight ends in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.400 mean just eight. When you think about yes, in the 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.040 National Football League and Jason is going to be Tony 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.400 Gonzalez is gonna go in, so you know, Tony and 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.400 Jason are gonna put that thing at ten. I anticipated 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.200 Antonio Gates getting there, so I look at it and 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.840 getting to two eleven guys. But the guys who were 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.840 in there special, John Mackie special tight end, Kellen Wimslow 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.720 special tight end. And when you talk about ranking them, 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.559 it's an interesting deal because so many of these guys 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.440 are in there when they had running teams and Ozzie 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.600 knew some of Mike ditka Um. So when you're looking 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.320 this new wave of pass catching tight ends, Jason is 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.720 definitely in that new wave. And when you're talking about 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.160 a top five guy in a in a pass catching 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.240 mode and a hell of a career. And and look, 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.240 I've always felt this way that having been the camp 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.680 many times, and you guys have been up there as well. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.240 Once you're in, baby, you're in. You know, once you're in, 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.000 you're in. And uh, he's gonna get his He's gonna 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:30.440 get his gold jacket, and deservingly so hell of a career, man, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.679 Just just you know, I took my hat towy Jason 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.360 Witten has done in his NFL career coming out of 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.079 TENNESSEEE third round pick. Yeah, you're right. I mean he 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.440 basically the like you said, the consummate professional. I mean, 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.440 his leadership off the field was legendary. His on the 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.720 field performances were legendary. I still remember when I don't 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.320 even think it was in the league. Now, I wasn't 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:51.800 in the league at the time, but when he caught 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.400 that looked like a slant against Philadelphia, shoot defenders come 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.200 and merge on them. They both knocked down each other, 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.560 his helmet goes flying, and he's still runs for another 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.840 forty yards, and I think that that's the play. To me, 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.640 that pretty much just basically tells you all you need 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.240 to know about Jason Witten when it comes to the 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.040 football field. I mean, there's there's a guy that there's 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.280 no guy that worked harder than he did with his 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.040 skill set. And like you said, man, he'll be a 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.560 first balllet Hall of Famer. He had a hell of 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.600 a career. Well, Church Church, you were there. I think 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.480 it was the preseason game where I think he like 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.640 he did something to his spleen and everybody just assumed 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.920 he wasn't gonna be able to play. We watched that 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:27.880 firsthand and it was like, it's no way, We're just 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.080 gonna get out there and get this stuff done. And 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.199 he was out there, so it's not it's not much 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:34.760 you can do to get this guy off the field. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.480 And he went out there and he performed. And like 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.040 I said, one thing you knew about Winton when you 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.320 knew exactly what you were going to get when you 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.440 were out there on the field, and everybody else knew 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.280 what they were gonna get and they still couldn't stop it. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.920 So I mean that that's just a testament to how 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.600 how he perfected his craft. You knew exactly what Roddy 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.120 was gonna run, you know, you just didn't know if 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.000 he's gonna break in out, And somehow the dude was 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.880 always open. So I mean, he he's a special player, 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.040 and he was a time. I would give him a 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:07.320 top ten trash talking rating like this dude, a lot 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.439 of cats know it. I know it had to garden 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.600 and practice each and every every practice. I had to 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.520 guard him. But this dude subtly would just talk the 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:21.040 whole entire time. He would get open on. Maybe maybe 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.280 next time, kid, maybe they just subtle that. You just 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.040 be like, man, you know what, I hate this dude, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.280 I hate, but he he just taught you so many 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.680 lessons and just his trash talking was just as legendary 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:37.920 played on the field. Well, it'll be interesting to see 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.760 what he does in his post career. He will have 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:46.000 his Greater contract expire in March, and then he'll sign 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:50.000 a one day contract with the Dallas Cowboys and retire. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.160 And well, i'd probably say the first step is is 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.800 Jerry will put him in the Ring of Honor, and 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.520 then after that, uh, you know, five years he'll be 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.360 he'll be in Canton for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.439 Another know, another Cowboy, remember going into into the Hall 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:10.520 of Fame. So that'll be that'll be, yes, will he'd 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:19.440 be the only Cowboy to return twice. I don't know 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.000 about I don't know. I mean at two tall Jones 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.280 did it twice? Remember he played and retired to go 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:31.079 box and then came back. He went he went boxed again. Hey, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.880 you know so so I remember that, and I remember 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.040 I remember how how mad many Cowboy fans were like, 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.920 you're gonna go do? What do you do? You know? 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:42.959 You know, I was like, Okay, fine, you got the 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.280 reach over anybody, but you know you're not gonna be 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.840 You're not gonna go out here beat Larry Holmes. I mean, 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.640 what are you doing? Um? And then he came back 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.760 and and you know when Ed retired, this is at 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.240 that height where the Cowboys were in the mix for 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.720 you know, the Super Bowl year in year out under 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.800 coach Lantry here in the late seventies and in early eighties. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.920 So that was that, That was that infuriated many a 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.800 Cowboy fan, like what in the world are you doing? 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.920 And you guys have played at the ultimate level, and 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.480 it is hard at any sport to get to that 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.920 ultimate level. And that was the thing about me about boxing, 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.199 and when I heard about dude, do you know how 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:28.240 hard this is? This is hard to become a top 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:33.600 flight heavyweight boxing contender. But yeah, he did it. But 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.280 a good question. But that's the only way I can 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.720 think of speak Hey, listen, side, no speaking of that. 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.320 Let me tell you every the boxing game, the fighting game. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.240 If your head is not in it, and you hadn't 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.199 been practicing your entire life, or you took some time off. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.840 Take a look at the fight that happened on Saturday 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.680 with Connor McGregor. Came out there half stepping, and you 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.840 will see how hard it is to really get your 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.920 mind in the game. My man went out there and 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.760 got knocked out. He ain't been since since Mayweather put 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.120 them hands on him, and he had and he got 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.320 one hundred million dollars you got. You gotta have your 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.839 mind right, man. That is a very very tough thing 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.960 to do. And uh, you know, shout out the air. 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.400 But I would give Greg Hardy some some props on 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.360 that because he's been able to transition from pro football 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.840 player one of the best dents to play for for 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.280 for his time and then uh transferred to UFC fight 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:27.040 now actually getting some wins, doing some good stuff out there. Well, 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.480 it reminds me of a movie and you guys were 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.600 not even born when it came out in nineteen eighty three, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:37.160 Rocky three. And in that movie they consistently talk about 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:41.240 the eye of the Tiger, and um, Rocky's trainer Micky said, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:42.920 you know you ain't you ain't been the same since 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.000 you won that belt. And what he talked about was 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:49.160 at the time, Hey Rock, you got paid, you're famous. Um, 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.920 you don't have that same hunger. And Connor McGregor going 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:54.960 in the ring, how can you be the same after 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.000 you put one hundred million dollars in your pocket and 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:02.560 you set me to life? Right hold on Floyd? No, no, no, no, Listen, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.760 there's a perfect example of the guy who did that 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:07.959 end and out. As much as new he wanted to 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:12.200 hate on the guy. Mayweather consistently made that type of 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.040 money and went out there and performed to the best 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.000 of his ability and will be going down as one 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:22.080 of the top powerful pound fighters to ever get in 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:28.200 the ring. Floyd was picked out choosing, he choosing and fights. Man, 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.200 I don't know about that man. So so so Connor 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.280 McGregor didn't pick poor head. I mean, poor ya was 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.640 gonna come up to it. And Connor went out there 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.640 and he got them hands put on him. Yeah, he 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:41.720 had already beat him up, so he assumed he was 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.840 gonna do the same thing. Connorm We're gonna pick that fight. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.840 Connor ms there, gonna also pick Mayweather too. He called 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:48.760 him out. He went out there and said I'm gonna 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.000 beat up Maywell. So listen, y'all want to take stuff 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.360 away from that dude. Man, he may he may consistent 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.560 money and he go out there and perform and when 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.240 has never lost a boxing match, Danny, I'm gonna give 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.880 you one word to describe Floyd Maywether. It sums up 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.720 this whole argument. Outlier. You know, in everything in life, 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.880 there's going to be an outlier, a person who just 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.560 put right right. There's there's an outlier. You know that 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.160 your Kareem abdul Jabbar, this dude was an outlier. So 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.040 so in every walk of life, there's going to be 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.560 one person who's a heck of a lot different than 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.080 the others. And that's what Floyd was in his career. 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.760 So so when we talk about that eye of the tiger, hey, 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.800 most people are going to be like Connor McGregor, Hey, man, 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:33.440 I made all this money, I'm not the same and 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.040 you you know, and to me, in a sport like 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.080 that where you got will you put your body on 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.800 the line physically once you've made it and got paid, Yeah, 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.560 I think it is hard to keep getting up and 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.120 doing it. But for Floyd Mayweather outlier man. He was 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.760 just gonna put that dude in a different category. But 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:55.920 most regular, most regular mortals at that position, they're gonna 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.920 fall into that trap. I mean, looking at Mike Tyson, 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.200 you know, as great as Tyson. You know Tyson Tyson 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.560 fell into that and had so much going on in 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.880 his world, and that's that's a tough thing to keep 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.760 winning and have that hunger to to to put your 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.880 body in your mind at that level. And for Floyd 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.880 did Man, I have mad respect for it as an outlock. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.720 I mean, look, look at look when it comes to football. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.720 I mean, how many cats we've seen get their start, 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.080 you know, on special teams and they're grind and they're 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.800 they're gunners, they're you know, they're blocking, they're doing all that, 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.440 and then they get a little break on defense and offense, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.320 maybe get a little change in their pocket, and then 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.040 the coach says, hey, we need you to beat this gunner, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.760 we need you to be this safety on kickoff, and 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.880 they're just like, ah, I like that out there. Don't 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:43.840 you say it like you say it? I don't know 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.640 who he's a butt? I have seen it with that before. 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.080 What number? What number didn't start with, didn't start with them, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:55.960 didn't start with a four. Absolutely get it in with 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.040 did it in with a two? All I'll say, and 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:05.040 seen it done before you lived it, because he lived it, 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:15.480 lived it, don do. Let's get our first break. Let's 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.399 get our first break in here on the plays lauds 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:24.119 um Matthew Stafford. There's been talking about Matthew Stafford and 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:28.200 the Cowboys. There's been talking about Deshaun Watson being everywhere 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.280 since he asked the Houston Texas for a trade. Let's 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.760 dive into what the Cowboys interest should or could be 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.280 with these two quarterbacks. 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Delis just do bay. Back to 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:55.440 the player's loud back here and the players latch on 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.280 a Friday. Quarterback talk is big, big big. We'll get 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.359 into that. By the way, we got a message for you. 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.840 The richest weekend in Western sports returns to AT and 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.679 T State in four It's eighth year. Don't miss the 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:11.600 finals of the American Rodeo on March sixth and seventh. 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.200 Tickets are on sale right now, get yours before they 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.639 sell out at SeatGeek dot com. I'm newly Strugs, a 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.520 long time Cowboys reporters, joined by two former Dallas Cowboys 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.840 safety Ferry Church and Danny mccraig. All right, guys, Deshaun 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.320 Watson says, I want out of Houston. Matthew Stafford's told 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.280 the lines, Hey, thanks, but I'm done with you, so 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.600 you know how Cowboy fans are you know how cowboy 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.360 Twitter goes in social media? There have people who've been 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:42.160 asking about these quarterbacks. Let's start with Matthew Stafford first, 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.600 Danny McCray, if you're the Cowboys, do you have any 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.960 interest because right now your quarterback, Dak Prescott is a 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.880 free agent who you could franchise for one more year. 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:53.880 But after this year, if you don't get a deal done, 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.000 there's no way you can franchise in four third. Your 0:20:56.040 --> 0:21:01.679 thoughts on Matthews absolutely not. Matt Matthew. You know it's 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.840 as good as I believe. Matthew Stafford is one. I 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.159 really do love Dak being here as all quarterback, the 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.000 leader it is, and the stuff that I've seen him 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.840 doing the field. But more importantly, Matthew Stafford has been injured. 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:19.480 I think he breaks hands, backs, legs, all types of stuff. Man. 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.040 And once you bring a guy in who you can't 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.960 depend on to play a full season, then then you're 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.080 you're you're asking for trouble. So with the injuries that 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:31.760 he had, and it looked like it's kind of similar 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:33.399 to what Romo was dealing with at the end of 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.280 his career, I wouldn't take a risk on him. He's 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.480 a he's a head of a player. But I think 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.280 the quarterback that we have now is a solution for 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:44.560 us to get to a super Bowl. Yeah, right now, 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.960 Before before I get into this, I preface it by saying, look, 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.880 I think Dak Prescott is a much better quarterback than 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:55.320 Matthew Stafford. But in saying that, I was if I'm 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.679 the Dolls Cowboys, I would still do my homework on it. 0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:59.720 I would still go to ask to you know, Detroit Line. 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:01.080 You know, what are they what are they thinking? What 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.320 are the trade possibilities for us at Matthew Stafford? And 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:06.439 if it doesn't break the bank, and if it doesn't 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.560 anything outrageous or outlandish. I mean, you go to Dak 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.480 Prescott and you say, hey, would you would you mind 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.760 taking this five year deal? If not, I mean, hey, 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.960 it's there's a lot worse scenarios than having Matthews quarterback 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.680 back there, all right. I mean we've seen it last year. 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:23.840 We've seen it last year with the Red Pistol. So 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:27.560 for me, I'm not saying I'd rather have Stafford. I'm 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.119 not saying that at all. I'd rather have Dak Prescott. 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:32.360 But to me, I think you do your homework on it, 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.520 and you see what possibilities are out there for you. 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.560 It wouldn't hurt because you do not have Dak Prescott 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:41.439 under contract right now. You don't Your quarterback right now 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.439 is Garrett Gilberty. So for me, I'm doing my homework 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.560 on matt Stafford. He has a lot of injuries, he 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.800 has it won a lot in Detroit, but I don't 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.240 think that's totally his fault. So for me, I'm doing 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:54.439 my homework on it just to see what can happen. Man, listen, 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.600 you're away from Justin Fields to Matthew Stafford getting the 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:01.320 gas whatever I mean, gene whatever you can do to 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.840 get rid of Dak Prescott, even though you don't even listen, 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.959 even even though even though you believe that he is 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.360 he is a good quarterback and he could really take 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.240 us to the super Bowl. If he didn't cost as much, 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.800 then it will be okay. But you're doing anything you 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:19.440 can to say anything cheaper, anything cheaper than Dak Prescott, 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.720 even if it's Justin Fields or Joe. Matthew Stafford is 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.280 better for the Cowboys, so they can get some defensive 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:29.560 pieces and be okay on offense, and uh and probably 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:31.600 good on defense, and you know, you still don't know 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:33.880 exactly what they're gonna be no matter what player they get. 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:38.439 But hey, whatever, whatever, I like you back man, come on, 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:43.359 back man. Go So so, Barry, Barry, I want to 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:47.879 come in and ask you this here. Okay, are they 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.639 are not just they're going to want a draft pick? 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.400 So are you willing to give up the tenth overall 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:58.560 pick in the draft for Matthew? Okay? Then no? Not okay? 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:00.639 So so what do you get being up to go 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:04.320 get the quarterback because they're asking for a one. Well, 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:05.960 if they're asking for a one, they're out of their mind. 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.200 I mean, little Matt Stafford's eleven years in the league's 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.240 coming off of multiple surgeries, he hasn't completed a full 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.720 season and who knows how long. So for them to 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.000 ask for an I mean, that's that's out of podcast question. 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.640 That ain't even don't even put that. But if they 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.000 come saying, look we'll take you know, a second and 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:27.200 a third for Stafford, I do it? Man, Church, Church, 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:29.800 Can you can you make that? Do that list again? 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.720 Do that list again for why you wasn't wouldn't give 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:37.120 up a one for Matthew Stafford, please do that list 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.240 again and tell me why you want him on our t. 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.960 What I'm saying is what I'm saying is I think 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.679 he would be I think he'd be protected a lot 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.399 more if he was behind all offensive line than what 0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:50.600 they had in Detroit. He has a lot more weapons 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:52.399 on our side than what he had in Detroit, and 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.120 I think he could play a little bit better. He's 0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.760 a solution. I'm not sing tarisim gonna be on the 0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:02.800 sideline together? Given team's little gonna man, Hey, hey, why 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:06.240 you bringing Tyre Smith? You talk about a better office 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:11.920 live saying, So you said Tyren Smith, Zach Martin? Who 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.760 else Lion Collins? And uh, you knows what. They can't 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.440 protect him better than what they had in Detroit? Well 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.880 what what what happened to zachon Martin Issia? Well, yeah, 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.760 this is the first time Zach Martin been injured in 0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.440 what eight years, even in the league. We're happening, we're 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:29.680 having a little college we're happening to t first time 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.479 and it was an injury buzz throughout the whole dousand 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:36.560 church organization happening again next church. Collins didn't even step 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:40.520 on the field one time. For the first time since 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.960 he's been drafted. He'll have it. He'll be back. He'll 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:47.480 be back. So so Church, here here's the thing. You 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.960 may not value Matthew Stafford and trading a number one, 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.080 but they are going to get that from someone in 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:58.560 this league that they just thought. Way. Look, there's no 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.640 way if you are the Chicago Bears, if you are 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:07.080 the Indianapolis Colts, a number one pick for Matthew Stafford 0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.760 versus what else you are looking at in free agency 0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:15.040 is going to be an upgrade. I mean, it just is. 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:16.639 There's plenty of teams out. I mean, if you're the 0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.879 New England Patriots right now, you know Matthew Stafford is 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.560 an upgrade over what you have. So giving up a 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:26.440 number one pick for a quarterback, and if you're trying 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.399 to especially if you're in a win now mode, if 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.199 you're a matt Neeggie and you're trying to hold on 0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.479 to your job and secure a second contract, and you're 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:37.000 Ryan Pays the GM going and giving up your number 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.800 one for Matthew Stafford versus, hey, we're ready to run 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.440 it back with Nick Foles or Mittell Trubisky. You'll do that. 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.440 So while you may not value the ten. There are 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.480 going to be other people that value the ten. So 0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:53.160 I'm just in in this league of quarterback play now. 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.320 I am with Danny on this one all day long. 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.760 Oh right, I'm Church Church, Sorry, you buy yourself on 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:08.120 you know. You know, I look at Matt Stafford and 0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:10.760 here's a man who's been in this league since two 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.200 thousand and nine. He's made one Pro Bowl. That was 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.000 in twenty fourteen when they went eleven and five and 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:16.800 I ended up getting beaten by the Cowboys. So but 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.560 he's made the Pro Bowl one time. And I started 0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.280 looking out at this list of guys who's made the 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.119 Pro Bowl during you know, during this time. He Mitchell 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.360 Trubisky made a Pro Bowl, Jamis made a Pro Bowl, 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.320 Marcus Mariota made a Pro Bowl, Kirk Cousins made the 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.159 Pro Bowl twice, Nick Foles made the Pro Bowl, Carson 0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.680 Wentz made you know, Andy Dalton made it three times. 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.679 This guy only made it once. And yes, we know 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.440 the Lions had their issues and whatnot, but I just 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:46.000 I just think that the time the Cowboys should have 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.840 gone for trying to get hi Matt Stafford was was 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.119 was years ago. It was really toward the end of 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.200 the Romo run. I just think that Stafford is not 0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.520 what they need to mean, the Colts seemed like a 0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:01.680 really good fit for Matthew sta. Their offensive line right 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.760 now is a better offensive line than the Cowboys, and 0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.800 he wants to throw it down the field. I think 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.639 Frank Wright could accommodate him and give him what he wants, 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:12.960 But I just don't see him as a fit in Dallas. 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.119 So let's go to the other quarterback that people have 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.840 been talking about here, Deshaun Watson. He's told the Houston 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.040 Texans he wants out. He signed a contract last year 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:28.200 basically making forty million dollars a year. Um, yeah, your 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.320 thoughts there are people want to connect into the Cowboys. 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.479 Would you entertain or have a discussion about that. If 0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:41.360 you're Jerry Stephen Jones and Will McClay mccraig, listen, I'm 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.239 still high on deck Man. I like Deshaun Watson him, 0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:49.680 but the intangible, that the intensible that that that has 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:54.440 here in Dallas is his leadership and familiarity with the 0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.960 with the players and the coaches that are here. The 0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.760 city loves them, the team loves him. He is the 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.760 leader of the locker room, and when you get rid 0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.120 of him for DeShawn Watson, what you switch out is 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.040 a brand new guy who has to now get familiar 0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:12.720 where everybody does here. Not saying that he can't do it, 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.480 but this is pretty much turn key. You're still gonna 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.080 be paying the guy forty million dollars. I mean it's 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.040 the same thing you're gonna be paying Dak anyway. So 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.280 you may ever will keep this guy and let him 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.960 prove what he can do. Once you fix up you, 0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.600 once you fix up the defense and show up the 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.520 offensive line to get that running game get back going. 0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:32.640 Dak is the guy who can take you to the 0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.560 super Bowl. I think it's too close of a match 0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:38.520 for you to be trading out Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott. 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.600 I would give Deshaun Watson now the slight edge, but 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.800 not enough for me to say, hey, Dak, you leave 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:48.000 DeShawn Watson this much better than you. So you you 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.520 telling me right now. If it was a one for 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:54.240 one DeShawn for Dak, no questions asked, one for one trade, 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:55.840 you would not do that. If you were the Dallas 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:59.160 cout Boys, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.400 I wouldn't do it because listen, listen, DeShawn Watson had 0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:04.600 a great year this year with with with with not 0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.960 that much talents. We were saying that. We were saying 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:10.840 the same thing about Dak last year when they were 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.560 losing and he was running up the stats getting trash yards. 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:17.200 I mean so so, I mean the stats are crazy, 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.520 The stats are crazy. Dak Prescott is one of the playoffs, 0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.680 just like uh, I think DeShawn Watson won the game 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.280 and they lost in Kansas City. Right last year they 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.520 beat they beat Buffalo and lost the case. Yeah, so 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.320 listen that they both they both can win. But I'm 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.480 not trading out that. First of all, that'll make the 0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.400 Joneses look horrible. You've been signing off on this guy 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.200 saying how you gonna pay them and how much you 0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.040 love them, and you would just look horrible to the 0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.160 league and any other free agent that was gonna coming 0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.120 here and say, hold on, this is the dude you 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.280 said you love. This is the guy you said you 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:49.880 had his back. He were out there and broke his 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.240 leg for y'all playing on the deal because y'all didn't 0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.560 pay them two years ago. And then you gonna let 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.760 him go and bring in DeShawn Watson. And just imagine 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.640 Dak Prescott going somewhere to coming and beating the Cowboys 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.400 year in and year out after you let them go, 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.920 after you trash them like that. That that'll just be horrible. 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.240 And it ain't show friends, it's show business. If you're 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.360 telling me Deshaun Watson can't come in here and win 0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:18.120 football game, It's is outrageous. The Cowboys fan base, they 0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.959 would four about one month, might might hate the Jones 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.880 and might hate the Cowboys organization, but once Deshaun Watson 0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.840 came in here and start winning games, you would you 0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.040 wouldn't even hear about that pobscot anymore. Look, I think 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:34.720 there's only maybe maybe maybe three teams in the National 0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.480 Football League that wouldn't make that deal right now. That's 0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:43.560 Kansas City, maybe maybe Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers, and 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:48.080 maybe maybe Seattle with or Russell Wilson. Everybody else they 0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.240 would make that trade in the heartbeat, and I'm sure 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:54.440 the Dallas Cowboys would do the same. What's what's second? 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.880 What's second? Movie? Hold on, way, how about to Deshaun 0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.240 Watson getting paid? Because I gotta I gotta push back 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.800 on the Church with the he's getting he's getting forty. 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.840 You don't want to pay back forty. You don't want 0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.440 to pay back for he's gonna get forty two, forty three, 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.280 that's what the number. If Dak was getting forty, you 0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:16.160 would already signed that contract. If you wanted forty thirty five. 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.680 We gotta look at the reports on that one year 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.960 it was it was it was the thirty five. So 0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.480 and it became it became about the number of years 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.360 Dak one or a four year deal. That's what these 0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.520 quarterbacks are signing. They're signing four years. The Cowboys wanted five. 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.520 The Church. I would just want to interject this. You 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:41.320 said one on one, Houston is not trade one Deshaun Watson, 0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.040 Dak Watson, Yes, that I can understand that. I will 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.800 say hypothet right if it was one, would you okay, Well, 0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:49.880 let me tell you what the hypothetical aint go bee 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.640 us there. Houston is for a voteload. So it is 0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:57.640 going to cost you act minimum Dak Prescott and your 0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:01.000 tenth overall pit. That's the minimum them that you're going 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.480 to have to do to get into this. You would 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:09.240 do it, do it, I do it, man, so long 0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:11.560 so you will so you so you want to go 0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:13.800 in on defense as long as as long as you 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.160 can get rid of that. But if DeShawn Watson come 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.480 share away that first pickle, you said, go pick a 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:22.240 defensive player on and just have DeShawn Watson play. I'm 0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:24.520 gonna be honest, I think that Shaan could do. 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So in the previous segment, Barry Church has 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.360 let it be know he would trade Dak Prescott for 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.640 Deshaun Watson in a one on one on a one 0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.920 on one trade. I do not believe that's going to 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.319 happen because the Houston Texans, by reports, are seeking at 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.560 least three first round picks, and the Cowboys gonna have 0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:28.400 at the least give up their first round pick to 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:32.120 get in the conversation along with Dak Prescott, McCray is 0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:35.160 that of the opinion he wants Dak now. I talked 0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:40.040 to trusted friend of mine who's who's been in professional 0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.359 football for well over thirty years and I said, give 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:46.200 me your opinion on this. And first off, he said, 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.640 he thought when you just asked he who's the better 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:52.040 quarterback between Watson and Dak, he said he thought Watson 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.200 was a better quarterback. But then he says, let's add 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:55.840 in the other things. You got to think about the 0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.080 cost of what it will take for you to get Watson. 0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.000 He said he would keep Dak Scott. And then the 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:04.160 other thing he pointed out, he said, look, Dak Prescott 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.480 before he went down and even what he did last 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:10.560 year was doing things right there comparable to what Deshaun 0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.759 Watson was able to do. So he thinks that Dak Prescott, 0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:16.360 while he's not as good at quarterback as Watson, he 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.960 thinks he's right there. He thinks he's a young, up 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.759 and coming quarterback and he would not give up um 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.200 Dak Prescott based on the other things you'd have to 0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:29.640 give up. So that that that was his opinion on 0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:33.200 on the two players. But I'm sorry, Church, You're going 0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.360 to have to give up more than just Dak Prescott. 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:40.480 You're going to have to give up your first round 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.360 pick at number ten. And oh, by the way, I 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.600 guess what you're gonna have to sign Dak to a franchise, 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:46.880 you know, to the franchise tag, and then you know, 0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:50.719 then move him on the way. So, um, I just think, 0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.120 um yeah, I just think that that's not you know, 0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.160 this is not gonna happen. First off, First off, let 0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.600 me just say this. If I'm Houston, I'm called up Deshan, 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.200 I'm like, bro, you you here, you got a contract, 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.839 you're gonna be here. Yeah, let's work this out. What 0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:09.080 is it you need to do? I mean the nickname 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.080 they gave cal mcnar down there. According to the Sports 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.920 Illustrated articles, Tommy Boy based off the movie because he 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.480 took over the family business and he don't know what 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:18.759 he's doing. So Tommy Boy needs to get in there 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:23.400 and tell Deshaun, short of me giving you profit sharing 0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:27.719 in the team, how can I help make this frantise? 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:29.399 You want to be back with it? I mean, because 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.640 you've got to do something. But do you need to 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.000 add another year to the contract? Me? What is it 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.960 you have to do to make this guy happy? You 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:40.399 simply do not find guys like Deshaun Watson. I don't 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.360 care if they get three first round picks, You're not 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:45.720 gonna find another guy like Deshaun wats. I got a question. 0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.480 Did he did Deshaun Watson sign that contract after they 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:54.759 got rid of DeAndre Hopkins? Yes, okay, So that's the 0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.440 thing I got. The problem I got with this whole Deshaun, 0:39:57.960 --> 0:39:59.799 you know, wanting out and all this other stuff. He 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.960 there was problems existing in that organization before he signed 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:09.200 the contract. So so I mean, I want out, I 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:10.840 want this, I want that, I want it. But and 0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:12.400 then you go ahead and sign the contract if you 0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.560 wanted to get out and everything was wrong in the beginning, 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.680 and you want to get out, why I signed the contract. 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.520 But but Church, but Church, if I put the contract 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.360 in front of you, and and and part of the 0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.719 stipulation of signing or the thing of signing this, Hey, 0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.640 we're gonna make sure we fix everything that you also 0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:32.000 brought to our attention if you sign this contract as well, 0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.960 so you'll be you'll begin on making these decisions, you'll 0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.680 be whatever. So that's where Deshaun Watson Fields played it, 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:41.760 because he spoke about some stuff, you know, some concerns 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.200 that he had. They told them, I'm sure with something 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.440 going on with you know, they explain what happened with 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.440 DeAndre Hopkins all the other stuff, and he thought, you 0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.399 know it's about to be a change, right, We're gonna 0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.000 make a change. I'm signing it. This This is why 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:54.879 I want to be it because they said they're behind me, 0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.080 and then and then they weren't. So so you traded 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.520 with his friend. You tell me, you apologize for and 0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:02.919 then you're like, oh yeah, all of stuff we said 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:04.760 when you signed that contract that's out in the window. 0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:11.360 We go in a different direction. Understand, Church, understand that point. Church. 0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:15.520 I would I would tell you after the podcast, go 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:19.480 look up the Sports Illustrated story about the Texans and 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:23.799 Jack Easterby. Read that and it will give you some 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:28.320 insight into the issues that he has with the organizations 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:31.680 and other people across this league. Okay, so so that's there, 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.520 and then I'll also give you this bit of information 0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.000 why he went to Clemson when he was recruited by 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:41.560 Davos Sweeney and what they had there, the organization, the 0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:45.040 family like atmosphere. And we've seen since de Sean has 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.600 left there. You know what they built there, that culture 0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:51.800 they built in Clemson has been very strong. He likes that. 0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.480 That's what he wants and that is not there at 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:57.759 all in Houston. I again, it's just not um. And 0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.719 what Sports Illustrated the article will show you was how 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:04.560 Call mcmayer has come in there and really he doesn't 0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.720 know what he's doing. I mean, he just doesn't. And 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:12.520 if this is writers finding this out, imagine what the 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:16.040 player who's there day after day has seen and what 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.600 he knows. So so dive into that and I think 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.400 it will help, you know, guide you a little bit 0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:23.680 into how he came to this decision. And he just said, 0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:28.600 hey man, thanks, but let's let's go go our separate ways. Here. 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:32.640 We spoke earlier pre show about three free agents that 0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:36.840 the Cowboys have that they must sign outside of Dak Prescott. Okay, 0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.360 he is obviously the number one free agent of the 0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.160 guy they need to sign. But after him, who are 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.480 three guys that you think the Cowboys need to take 0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:50.960 care of this offseason? Well, if you if this on me, 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:54.120 there's three. There's three names. Three names that come to 0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:56.880 mind for me. And they're not household names. They're not 0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.920 big time names that all, man, we gotta sign him. 0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:01.879 He gonna help this out of third. But the three 0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:03.920 people that I and it's really four because it's kind 0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.680 of a slash between the two of them that I've 0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.239 I've got number one. We gotta take care of LP. 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:10.560 I mean, this is and I'm talking about whatever. I 0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:18.839 don't even know how to really pronounce his last which 0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:20.480 I think that's the first time I even tried to 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:22.520 say his last nagger. We always just call him LP. 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.640 But anyways, this is the most consistent long snapper in 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.200 the game. There hasn't been many box snaps with the 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.279 Dallas Cowboys since that Romo incident back in I think 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.359 it was two thousand and seven in Seattle. That might 0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.480 have been the last box snap that we've had with 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:37.920 the Dallas Cowboys. I'm not certain about that. But LP 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:41.360 is the most consistent guy on this team and we 0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.440 need to take care of it. Maybe a minimum contract, 0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.520 but we need to take care of the second. One 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:47.520 is kind of a slash because it could be either 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:51.400 or I'm going Justin March or I'm going Joe Thomas. 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.200 We need somebody to back up these linebackers. I know 0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.680 we might addressed it in the draft, but if we don't, 0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.440 we need somebody to back up these linebackers. Every one 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:01.440 of them has an injury prone I mean Sean Lee 0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.759 is a free agent this year. Lbe went down for 0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.440 some time, Jalen Smith went down before, so we need 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:08.600 somebody back there that can back him up, that knows 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.040 the system, that can run around and do similar things 0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:12.600 that these guys can do. And I think both of 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.000 them can do that as well as help out on 0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:16.840 special teams. So I think we gotta take care of 0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.120 either one of those two, maybe even both. For either 0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:20.880 one of those two, once again, it won't be a 0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.600 huge contract with those guys at all. And last, but 0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:26.680 not least, we gotta take care of the MVP of 0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.799 the team, Danny's boy C J. Goodwin, I mean little 0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.520 that's been a dynamite on special teams. He's made play 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.400 after play, whether it's tackling somebody, whether it's catching a 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.080 reverse passing and taking it down down the field, and 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.160 special teams. This guy is a guy that we need 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.600 to market and bring back for special teams. We've seen 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.279 how much that can hurt us when we don't have 0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.640 guys out there that can perform at a high left 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.360 for on special teams, we give up a lot of 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:54.759 field position. So for me, we gotta take care of 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:58.480 these guys basically mainly for special teams, but they got 0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:02.920 to be a part of this team next year. Uh yeah, listen, 0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:07.640 I agree with you, Church, especially on LP. He has 0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:11.279 been that that Jason Winden type of model of consistency, 0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:14.520 especially since I've been in the league's he's been there. 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:16.640 You can always depend on him to make his blots 0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:19.279 and make the snaps. And he's also one of those 0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:22.040 quiet leaders, right, you know, you can go talk to him. 0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:24.239 He kind of runs the special teams with the kicker. 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.319 He's not the captain, but he's one of those guys 0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.800 who's always there, so you know the team can depend 0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:32.960 on him. So I'm definitely, you know, signing to some 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.319 type of deal, some team friendly deal, and hopefully this 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.760 is one of the first times that the Cowboy takes 0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.319 care of one of those special teams guys. So c J. Goodler, Man, 0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:45.359 I'm rooting for you. I am rooting for you. I 0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.680 hope you get everything you deserve. Look around the league 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:50.600 and look at us what some of these guys are 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.120 getting paid, and make sure the Cowboys take care of you. 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:55.920 End that way, man, because you earned it. This year 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.960 you were the MVP of the defense and this one, Matt, 0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:03.799 you may not like this from Church. But if the 0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.920 cost is right, I think you have to try to 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:13.520 get Andy Dalton back. Well, yeah, listen, you got you got. 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:16.760 You got a quarterback that's coming off a very very 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:20.880 serious injury. Other than him, you have your guy double 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:25.200 G on the roster, and you know, so we don't 0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.560 have anything. So you need that security blanket, just like 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.040 you needed that security blanket this year. I think have 0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.799 we went in and had a different type of defensive 0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.440 game plan or talent on there and we got killing 0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.920 more to stick to what works, which is running the 0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.279 ball and focusing on play action. After that, I think 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:43.160 Andy Dalton would have played a lot better and we 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.840 would have win a lot, a lot, a lot deeper 0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.200 into the season and possibly get into the playoffs with 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:51.440 a better record. So you need a safety You need 0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.040 a safety blanket. Man, Dak Prescot's coming off a serious injury. 0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:55.680 You don't know when he's gonna be ready. So I'm 0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.719 sharing up that backup quarterback spot. Did you see what 0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:03.480 happened to Andy on that last game when all the 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.520 marbles was on the line, he reverted back to Andy 0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:11.719 Dalton the Cincinnati playoff and listen, we can't depend on 0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:15.560 that Andy Dalton. Look what happened to me? Man, this 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:19.120 is crazy, this is out of listening. Listen. He was 0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:20.839 he was on and off, man, he was on and off. 0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:23.880 Like like you said, during the season, Andy Dalton had 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.880 some some very bright spots to where you even changed 0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:29.640 his name. Yeah, he didn't play well. He didn't play 0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.480 well that last game. But I don't I don't think 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.799 that's that's how he would play the entire season. I 0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:35.760 think this would be a second year in the offense. 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:37.800 I think he'll play a little better if he has to. 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.480 But I'm not I'm not taking my back of quarter 0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:44.280 position on double g. This does not happening. Not happening. 0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.520 M I can't believe you said that they go ahead 0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.960 and new. I can't believe talking about bringing par Paron 0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:56.120 back in the phone. Uh. Look, I think if you're 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:59.279 Andy Dalton, this comes to a situation where you were, 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.239 here's a back up spent, you know, spend a few 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:02.960 games as a backup. Next thing you know, you're you're 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.440 starting again. And I think that's what Andy's gonna try 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:06.719 and do. He's gonna go out there and try and 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.200 find a place where he can go and play. There 0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:12.400 were rumors about Andy to New England last year. Um, 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.680 if I'm Andy, I tell my agent to call Bill Belichick. Hey, see, 0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:17.160 if I can get here, I'll take a one year 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:19.560 deal and and you know, compete. But I think if 0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.279 you're Andy Dalton, you don't want to be back here. 0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:23.839 They're gonna bring bring back that they've told you they're 0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:25.880 playing on bringing back Dak Prescott, and he's gonna be 0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:27.919 the starter. So I just I just don't see Andy 0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.680 Dalton here. I think he came here for what he 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:33.800 wanted to. Yes, Newly, Andy Dalton is at the bottom 0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.840 of the free agent quarterback list. All I think. I 0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:39.000 think there are many options out there that's better than 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.799 Andy Dalton. He'll find himself looking for a job to 0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.120 be another backup after all the chips to settle when 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:49.320 all these guys who are coming available this offseason. Okay, 0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.920 so so look at NEWI would you bring Andy Dalton 0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:54.640 back if everything lined up and he was all right, 0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.160 I'll be there? Would you bring Andy Dalton back if 0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:59.239 you can bring Andy Dalton back on the deal that 0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:01.640 you just signed him too, it's three million dollars deal. Yes, 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:04.920 But I'm telling you, if I'm Andy Dalton. Okay, if 0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:07.520 I'm Andy Dalton, I'll go and take lesser money to 0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.400 go out here and play with Sean McVay, who's done 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:13.400 with Jared Golf and compete with that other guy Walford 0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.439 that they have out there. Man, if I'm Andy Dalton, 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:19.400 there's other situations. I would take the same money as 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:22.000 the Cowboys or less money to go and compete and 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.280 sign an incentive laden deal. You know, if the Bears 0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:26.239 are gon bringing up Mitchell Trabiski and Nick Foles, if 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.439 I'm Andy Dalton, I'll go over there and I'll try 0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:31.400 my hand there. I mean, there's just other situations across 0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:34.080 this league right now that I feel. If I'm Andy Dalton, 0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.640 I think I got a better shot to go play 0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.680 and actually get in there. I mean, Teddy Bridgewater up 0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:42.760 there in Carolina, they ain't exactly given him a whole 0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.040 voter confidence. So if I'm Andy Dalton, I'm gonna take 0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:48.120 my shot where I think I got an opportunity to 0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:51.359 play here. You know, the only way you're going to 0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:56.040 play is if Dak Prescott is injured. These other situations 0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:59.440 you actually could get an opportunity to play. Who knows 0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:01.360 what they're going do out there in New Orleans. And 0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:03.680 if they say they're gonna go with Taysom Hill, Shoot, 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:05.600 if I'm Andy Dalton, I roll out there too. Because 0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:08.560 we know Taysom Hill cannot throw the football. Okay, he 0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:11.640 can't do it. So that's my thing on Andy. There's 0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.480 better situations out there that I think he could could hit. 0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:16.840 The three free agents I have that, I think the 0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:22.839 Cowboys should resign. CJ was number one for me. The 0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:27.640 Cowboys special teams. It was better under John Fossell. I 0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:29.879 think it can continue to get better. But CJ good 0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:32.200 when it's a guy that if you lose him, you're 0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:34.560 gonna have a hard time replacing him. This is a 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:37.640 young man who knows what he's doing and you can 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.360 trust him. Trusting guys on special teams and knowing what 0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:44.920 they're doing. I just think that's valuable. Number Two Joe Looney. 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:47.719 Joe Looney is a guy who can play center, he 0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:51.000 can play guard. You bring him back here and if 0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:53.880 he's backing up at both of those positions. He knows 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:57.799 this offense, he's trusted. I just think that's that to me, 0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:00.319 is a valuable deal. We know how injuries go in 0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:02.840 the National Football League, and especially after last year with 0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.840 the Cowboys. Joe Looney's a guy I'm bringing back. And 0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.080 a third guy that I'm going to bring back we 0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:10.800 didn't bring up. And obviously LP's the name I probably 0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:12.640 should have had on the list, But I'm gonna give 0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:17.160 you a name here. Unrestricted wide receiver Noah Brown. There's 0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.160 a guy that I looked at. I thought he had 0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:23.439 some nice moments last year, and I'd like to bring 0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:27.839 him back if I'm the Cowboys, because once again it's 0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:30.560 injuries and having some depth here and somebody that knows 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:33.319 your offense. I'd like to see what Noah Brown could do. 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.080 I'd like to see what he could do with Dak Prescott. 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:38.880 So those are my three tacks. You know, you know 0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.400 who I would like to see what they can do. 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:44.360 Amari Cooper. I want to see what a Cooper. I 0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:47.040 would have seen what al Mara Cooper could do when 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.640 you treat him like the number one receiver that he 0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:52.840 deserves to be treated like scheme ups the rose for 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.400 the guy. Let him get sixteen seventeen hundred yards in 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.239 the season with ten touchdowns. Have him out there looking 0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:01.880 like Davante Adams. Keep Noah Brown author roster because the 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:05.920 more weapons that you give Keller Moore, the more Amari 0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:09.280 Cooper falls to the wayside. And that twenty million dollars 0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.239 that he's making is going out the window this year, 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:17.040 it's going you. You might not even be starting. Can 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:20.399 I say that? Can I say this? Danny? You walked 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.319 right into the trap when I broke down? No bol, 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:26.160 I was like, I do, what's gonna happen with this? Danny? 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:29.799 You just walking right on through that one? I listen. 0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:31.680 I wanted to be in there, man. I want people 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:34.600 to Amari Cooper is the number one receiver and he 0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:37.480 deserves to be treated and such, specially getting paid one 0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:40.359 hundred million bucks. All right, So treat him that way. Man. 0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:42.919 We don't need numbre receivers. We got Gallop, we got 0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:46.080 CD and we got a Murray Cooper, we got Blake Joe, 0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:49.640 when we got Usten. We got so many weapons. We 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:52.360 don't need another one to take the attention off of 0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:55.200 our number one guy who is going to help carry 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.239 us deep into the playoffs and possibly to a super Bowl. No. 0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:00.799 I don't want to hear another about Noah Brown. Did 0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:04.600 you guys, did you guys have your top three quarterback 0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:08.320 free agents? Did you have your list there? If we're 0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:10.800 in if we're talking about if we're bringing every quarterback 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.480 that may be free agents, Oh yeah, we can do that. 0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:18.280 All right, go ahead, Church, what you got the top three? 0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:20.800 Now we're talking about just top three quarterbacks? Right? Just 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:25.719 free agents coming up? Listen that that that includes that 0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.520 to me, that includes like Big Band who possibly could 0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:33.560 be available. And I also threw in, uh yeah, I know, 0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:36.600 I never remember. And the thing, these are guys who 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:39.000 could possibly be on the move this year, like if 0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.279 you wanted to make a move for Deshaun Watson, if 0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:43.440 you want to make a move for Big Band because 0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:45.960 they weren't gonna pay him forty million dollars and he 0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.400 ended up being whatever. This is, these are people who 0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:53.000 could possibly be available. Who are the top guys? We'll 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:54.960 go ahead? Then you got you gotta go ahead? Go ahead? 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:59.319 All right, Listen, I'm going Jamis Winston, Cam Newton and 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:16.000 Ryan Fitzpatrick. Now I'm kidding. I'm kidding Patrick. I was 0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.560 a kidding man. I'm a kid. I was a kid. Listen, 0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:23.520 my number my number one guy, just because everybody is 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:27.040 talking about him, everybody's talking about him. The number one 0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:29.760 guy to me has to be de Sean Watson. Where 0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.200 is he landing there? What type of deal are you 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.479 trying to put together if you're a team that really 0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.399 needs a quarterback and and and that's that's the only 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:39.040 thing that you need to get you really started, or 0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:41.400 you looking for a franchise guy. De Sean Watson. I 0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:43.400 want to put back second because I don't want him 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:46.200 to go anywhere. But you know, in all reality, he 0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:48.479 is going to be a free agent and he could 0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:51.120 possibly be on the move and that that would be 0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:54.200 very unfortunate for us. And number three for me would 0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:56.680 be my guy Stafford. And even though he's not healthy, 0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:59.080 I think if you put him in the right system, 0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:03.640 maybe a New England, maybe San Francisco, you know, get 0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:05.680 him with the right coach and the right weapons, I 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:07.800 think he can be a top player. He could carret 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:09.520 team deeper to the playoffs as well. So those are 0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:14.120 my top three, Okay, solid list, solid lists for me. 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.080 If we're talking about guys that may be on the move, 0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:20.440 included into this top free agent list or top quarterback 0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:24.880 lists of guys who might might change teams. My three 0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:27.399 and would be of course the shan Watson. We've talked 0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:29.360 a lot about him where he could land in the 0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:33.840 possibilities for me to shan Watching, the best landing spot 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:36.400 in my opinion for him would be out there. I 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:37.840 don't know if this is gonna get done. It probably 0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.719 ain't gonna get done, but I would say San Francisco 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:43.320 just because to me, they have one of the most 0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:46.839 creative offensive minds over there in Shanahan, and I feel 0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:49.880 like Shanahan, after a couple of years, he could be considered, 0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:52.680 you know, one of them offensive geniuses like Andy Reid. 0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:54.600 So I think if he took his talents over there 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:57.400 to San Francisco with that bona fide running attack, it 0:55:57.560 --> 0:55:59.799 seems like no matter who's in the backfield, you got 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:03.480 Unt's Jeff Wilson back there, you got Tavin coleman Um, 0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.239 you got Mozart back there. Whoever's back there running the ball, 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:07.880 they do it effectively and it would have put a 0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:09.879 lot of pressure off of the Shaw Watson. So if 0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:12.480 I think if he went out there and combined with Shanahan, 0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:15.640 I think that would be an immaculate, immaculate couple right there. 0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:19.200 But I highly highly doubt that's gonna happen. Um, so 0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.080 from my number two possible, and I think it's the 0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:25.600 most intriguing quarterback that could be on the move. To me, 0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:28.920 it's Big Ben out out in Pittsburgh. Um. To me, 0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:30.879 he came across if you guys listened a little bit 0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:33.759 today for his interview yesterday or today, one of the two, 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:36.200 he came across to me as being kind of kind 0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.120 of begging for his job. I mean, like, this is 0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:40.600 one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game 0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:42.359 in my opinion, But he's out there saying, you know, 0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:44.400 you know, I'll take I'll take a pay cut. It 0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:46.680 doesn't matter what I'm paid, just you know, just give 0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:48.640 me one more shot at as a as a quarterback 0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:50.840 for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And then if you've seen the 0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:53.080 Rooney's over there, they're saying, yeah, you know, you know, 0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:56.560 we would like to have Big Ben back, but these 0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:59.719 are gonna a lot of things are yeah, like it 0:56:59.880 --> 0:57:04.600 like not to change. But that's legitimate. I mean, you 0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:06.759 guys have been in this business song enough and you 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:10.080 signed you know, you've seen contracts that forty one million 0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.560 dollars they put in there. You're never going to be paid. 0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:14.560 It was just something that the agent put in there 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:16.200 to make it look good that he could send up 0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:18.680 and say I got being an extension and paying blah 0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:20.520 blah blah. But they were never paying the forty one 0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:22.960 million dollars. And Rooney came out and said it, we 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:26.880 ain't paying forty one million dollars. And I think, from 0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:28.280 what But if you're a big man, do you do 0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:30.200 you you beg for it like that? To me, I'm 0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:31.720 not doing that if I mean, this is a guy 0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:35.640 that's a two times Super Bowl chant like, look, he 0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:40.080 ain't the same. I'm sorry, bro, he looked like he 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:43.600 looked shot. Okay, he looked like a shot fighter this year. Okay. 0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:47.160 So and it's not after that surgery. This is just 0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.360 one year after that surgery. They say it takes two 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:51.800 years to get back. So maybe I'm him. I'm not 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:54.920 begging for the job like that, but but look I wouldn't. 0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:58.600 But they're telling you, hey, bro, we like you, but 0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:01.520 we don't like your forty one. But at this situation, 0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:03.480 you look at where the Steelers are at. Okay, they're 0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:06.240 up against the cap. Bud Dupree is a free agent. 0:58:06.960 --> 0:58:08.840 They've got it. They're now in that window. Where they 0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:12.320 can resign t J. Watt, Juju Smith Schuster is a 0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:17.120 free agent him they need a lesson. I'm just saying 0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:22.840 they've got serious contractual issues. And the lowest apparently according 0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:25.080 to Bob Graiziano esp and the lowest they could get 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:28.560 Ben to is twenty three million dollars. So ask yourself, 0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:32.040 this is Ben Roethlisberger worth twenty three million dollars as 0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.760 a quarterback next year? Or can you move on and 0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:37.880 get a cheaper option? Can you go get a Andy Dalton, 0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:40.400 a Jameis Winston? Do you give up your number one 0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:43.280 for Matthew Stafford who's making about twenty seventy million dollars? 0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:45.560 So who would you rather have? Matt Stafford at twenty 0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:49.760 seven million or Ben Roethlisberger making twenty three? Possible are 0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:51.800 we saying? Are we saying Stafford and the number up 0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:56.160 there with big Ben Roethlisberger at this point, if you're 0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:58.520 telling me next year, I could have take those casts 0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.120 to eleven and old. I mean they took towards the end, 0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:05.880 but he did take If Pittsburgh, if Pittsburgh don't get 0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:07.800 a running game, it don't matter who they got out there, 0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:10.280 all right, They couldn't run the ball two yards, all right, 0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:12.400 So it don't matter who you got out the big 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:14.760 baby throwing the ball sixty times. You know, Matthew Stafford 0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:16.720 and throw a sixty times. He ain't gonna win those games. 0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:21.280 They can't win that way. You're right, James, James Connor 0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:23.520 is a free agent. You need to upgrade your offensive linster. 0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:25.680 So there's a whole lot of issues there. But I'm sorry. 0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:28.600 I would I would. I would wave goodbye to been Roethlisberger, 0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:30.600 and if I'm a team out here, I wouldn't be 0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:34.720 signing him. He is passed. What you're going to get 0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:38.080 is almost what Indianapolis got out of Philip Rivers. He 0:59:38.280 --> 0:59:40.760 was okay, but Rivers couldn't take them over the top. 0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:43.960 He doesn't have that ability anymore. These guys are like pictures. 0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:46.720 When in their prime they were throwing a ninety seven 0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:49.040 ninety eight, you couldn't touch it. Now they had lost 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:51.280 five miles an hour. People are tagging that ball, and 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:52.960 so now they got to be crafty with it. Some 0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:54.800 days they'll be good, some days they'll be bad. They're 0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.000 not what they used to be, and that's the problem. 0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:59.720 You're paying for a guy who's not what he used 0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:02.240 to be. And that's what the Steelers, in my opinion, 1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.840 should go ahead and say goodbye to. If he's not 1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:06.240 what he used to be, why are we gonna keep 1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:09.120 playing this game? Why we're gonna keep on doing this? 1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.320 So you don't think he even at twenty three mile, 1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:15.120 you wouldn't bring any back for one year. At twenty three, 1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:19.760 I'll give I'll bring him back with forty one is 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:21.760 out of pocket. There's no way, there's no way in 1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:24.840 hell he's even near forty one. But but twenty three, 1:00:25.400 --> 1:00:28.400 at some point, I think they gave one more. At 1:00:28.440 --> 1:00:31.560 some point in time, you need to hit the reset, buddy, 1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:34.960 And okay, and I'm gonna go ahead and look at 1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:37.760 the Saints this year. Here's a team that tried to 1:00:37.760 --> 1:00:41.000 go one more year at Drew Brees. Now. I heard 1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:46.160 they were in conversations with Tom Brady and and what 1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:48.680 I was told was a Sean Payton really would have 1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:51.560 liked it had Tom Brady. But you know know, they kept 1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:53.680 going back and forth with Drew, and Drew kind of 1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:56.720 held him up. And then at this end Drew said, okay, fine, 1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:59.960 I'm gonna do it. But they were looking to move 1:01:00.200 --> 1:01:03.240 on from Drew Brees. From what I was told from 1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:06.440 an inside who knows the organization very well, But what 1:01:06.520 --> 1:01:08.920 did we see from Drew last year? They could win 1:01:08.960 --> 1:01:10.840 some games, but this dude couldn't throw it down feeling 1:01:10.920 --> 1:01:12.800 in the playoffs. To Bowler is like, man, this guy 1:01:12.840 --> 1:01:15.080 person he was hurt and this dude couldn't push the 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:17.240 ball down to feel they sat on the routes. Ben 1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:20.800 Roethlisberger is a guy. Man, Look, I'm sorry. They're not 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:22.480 gonna win games and this dude he don't even throw 1:01:22.480 --> 1:01:24.160 it down to feel like he used to. You gotta 1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:27.960 start saying goodbye to these older dudes and move on, man, 1:01:28.440 --> 1:01:32.920 move on. If you're the Steelers, trade I will. I 1:01:32.960 --> 1:01:35.440 will trade up in the draft. I'll trade up in 1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:37.800 the draft and go get it, get one of these guys. 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:39.680 But I would not be sitting up here trying to 1:01:39.720 --> 1:01:43.200 do this thing with with Ben roethlisbergers scause you end 1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:45.200 up like Philip Rivers and the Coast. These guys can't 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.640 put you over the top. I know, I know you 1:01:47.680 --> 1:01:49.400 want to get on Drew Brees and not throwing it 1:01:49.440 --> 1:01:54.560 down the field, but they made deep threats. He had 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:57.480 Emmanuel Sanders. Man, they didn't get the ball down Emmanuel Sanders. 1:01:58.120 --> 1:02:01.400 They Immanuel Sanders ain't no true. He's not a true 1:02:01.680 --> 1:02:04.720 He's a route runner. That's what he's good at, running routes, 1:02:04.840 --> 1:02:07.200 just like Michael Thomas. They were set up to run 1:02:07.480 --> 1:02:10.800 to run quick game, short routes. Slanting Diggs. That that 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:12.320 that that's the type of person on their head on 1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:14.960 the sad. They tried it one more They tried it 1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:17.439 one more time. They tried it one more time with him. 1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:19.400 They tried it one more time with Drew Brees and 1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:21.840 it didn't work. And now they're finally going to move 1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:24.479 on from him. But I just I just thought Drew 1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:27.680 Brees he I thought he had his run. I thought 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:29.680 Philip Rivers had his run. And now I'm of the 1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:32.960 opinion Ben Roethlisberger has had his run. But if people 1:02:32.960 --> 1:02:35.200 want to keep on running it back like giants, tried 1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:38.560 to show show me where it works with these guys 1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:41.600 that are older like this, in these late thirties. These dudes, 1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:43.000 are you looking at me like, hey man, he ain't 1:02:43.000 --> 1:02:44.480 got it into one. I mean, show me where it's 1:02:44.480 --> 1:02:46.600 working with some of these guys. Where you've seen cracks 1:02:46.600 --> 1:02:48.360 in their army. Tell me, tell me who it worked 1:02:48.360 --> 1:02:54.120 with outside of Tom Brady. But I think I think 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:57.240 all big Ben knees Man is a solid running game man, 1:02:57.280 --> 1:02:59.400 and he has a solid running game like he did 1:02:59.440 --> 1:03:01.280 in his early part of his career. I think he can. 1:03:01.440 --> 1:03:03.120 I think he can take those guys, you know that, 1:03:03.280 --> 1:03:05.400 maybe even a distance, maybe even all the way. But 1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:07.080 I just don't think he can do it on his 1:03:07.120 --> 1:03:09.120 own anymore. I don't think he can just use his 1:03:09.240 --> 1:03:11.640 arm strength to will a team um to that, to that, 1:03:11.720 --> 1:03:13.240 to that top of the mountain. I think he needs 1:03:13.240 --> 1:03:14.760 help around him, and I think he needs a solid 1:03:14.840 --> 1:03:17.120 running game. But at twenty three if if you can 1:03:17.200 --> 1:03:21.040 get him at twenty three mill with a good running game, 1:03:21.120 --> 1:03:22.440 I think you do it. I think you give it 1:03:22.480 --> 1:03:25.880 one more goal. No, man, you just gave it one 1:03:25.920 --> 1:03:28.000 more goal. And that's the thing. You know, he's coming 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:30.040 up shoulders certain, Yeah, we got one more goal. You 1:03:30.120 --> 1:03:32.560 just gave it one more go and it didn't go 1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:34.840 the way you wanted to. So so now you're saying, 1:03:34.880 --> 1:03:37.280 let's try it one more time, then you're gonna be 1:03:37.360 --> 1:03:39.720 the Saints. Well they tried it one more time with 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:41.760 with with Drew Brees. Sooner or later, you're gonna have 1:03:41.800 --> 1:03:44.040 to just say, hey man, we gotta go get somebody. 1:03:44.240 --> 1:03:46.960 We gotta go get somebody. Maybe you move up in 1:03:47.000 --> 1:03:49.520 the draft. You keep him at twenty three, and maybe 1:03:49.560 --> 1:03:51.240 you move up in the draft and get your quarterback 1:03:51.280 --> 1:03:53.040 so you can be that bridge guy. Maybe he'll be 1:03:53.120 --> 1:03:55.000 that bridge guy who knows that. I say, you give 1:03:55.080 --> 1:03:58.880 him think so, chur Church. Remember when you were growing 1:03:58.960 --> 1:04:01.120 up and they kept giving or else Steward one more time. 1:04:01.160 --> 1:04:02.960 You know he had that great slash year. They kept 1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:05.400 on trying to find that slash here one more time, 1:04:05.560 --> 1:04:09.880 they say, and they said, you know what, man, we're 1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:12.480 gonna go draft a quarterback. And they drafted big then. 1:04:12.760 --> 1:04:14.800 So at some point time, man, you gotta stop trying 1:04:14.800 --> 1:04:18.240 to hey man, maybe one more time this our teams. 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:21.040 Do I know he get this? I knew like once 1:04:21.080 --> 1:04:22.400 you get close to the end of the show this, 1:04:22.440 --> 1:04:24.720 I knew he get man. He started talking about crazy 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:29.800 and talked about nights on, about cut Steward. You know, Stewart, 1:04:30.120 --> 1:04:35.200 it's a big Ben Roethlinisburger vacame. We all an hour, Yes, 1:04:35.280 --> 1:04:38.479 we're at We're over an hour here, Christ Chris Bean 1:04:38.600 --> 1:04:41.240 has things to do here on a Friday, all right, 1:04:41.320 --> 1:04:45.600 Danny McCray, Barry Church, fun fun conversations always. We will 1:04:45.640 --> 1:04:48.160 be back next week here on the players line that 1:04:48.240 --> 1:04:51.120 throwing out our opinions and such. But let us just 1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:54.040 be known that Danny McCrae and I are on board 1:04:54.320 --> 1:04:59.080 for Dak Prescott over uh Matthew Stafford and the church 1:04:59.200 --> 1:05:01.880 for some reason in love with matt Stafford. But this 1:05:01.920 --> 1:05:05.800 is a conversation. We'll continue, Watson or you gonna leave 1:05:05.800 --> 1:05:10.800 out de Shaun Watson too, and and and Church. She's 1:05:10.880 --> 1:05:13.800 also in there for Deshaun Watson. Danny and I are 1:05:13.840 --> 1:05:16.360 there for Dak Prescott. So we're all good. Just like 1:05:16.400 --> 1:05:20.120 the picks last week, Baby, I'm going out staff And 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:22.320 what about this and the And what I said about 1:05:22.360 --> 1:05:25.480 Stafford was, hey, I say you do your homework on it. 1:05:25.640 --> 1:05:27.200 I say you don't go ahead and pull the trigger 1:05:27.240 --> 1:05:29.480 or nothing like that. You just do your homework on it. 1:05:29.520 --> 1:05:34.000 That's all I'm saying with Stafford. But Deshaun Watson call 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:35.880 it a day where I signed up. Man, what I'm 1:05:35.880 --> 1:05:38.280 paid for the paperwork out? Man? 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