1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Music Saved Me. Musicians on Call is a charity that 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: is perfectly aligned with the mission of this podcast, delivering 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: the healing power of music since nineteen ninety nine. Why 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: not become a volunteer or a supporter by going to 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Musicians on Call dot org. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: It gives the soundtrack of our lives. And you know, 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful and honored that I now have a 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: stake in the game and that people, you know, tell 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: me things like, oh, you know, I risen to your 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: music when I go work out, or you know, I 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: was really depressed and it was so exciting, you know, 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: because I listened to your music and he told me 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: out of my depression or he gave me some insight. 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: So I mean, yes, it not only does it affect me, 15 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: but now I'm grateful that my music is helping to 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: affect others. 17 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Music Saved Me Podcast. I'm Lynn Hoffman 18 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: and normally you'll hear me on Music Saved Me interviewing 19 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: musicians about the healing power of music now. Previous episodes 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: have included Winonah and Jelly Roll, among others. Today, Music 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Saved Me producer, creator and the host of the popular 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: taken a walk podcast, Buzz Night steps into sub for 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: Me with an episode with actor, musician, activist Corey Feldman. 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Here's Buzz with Corey next on music saved Me? 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: Hi, Corey, I wanted to ask you, do you believe 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: music has saved you at any point in your life? 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: Oh? God, Yes. In fact, I would say that music 28 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: has saved my entirety of my life. If it wasn't 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: for music being on this planet, I don't think I 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: would have survived any of it, to be honest. As 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: a kid, you know, going through the abuse that I endured, 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: it was always music that took me away. I mean 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 2: I remember being a little kid, you know, running around 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: in my grandmother's living room. She used had one of 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: those old wind up record players. And one of the 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: very early records that I ever got into was Billy 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: Aley in the Comments because that was just you know, 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: the thirty five rpm or what ever, you know, a 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: record that she had sitting out there, and and when 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 2: she played it, you know, or we played that album, 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: you know, reminded me of Happy Days because those were 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: the songs from Happy Days. That's how I knew the music. 43 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, you know, it's from that 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: TV show, little known to me that it was actually 45 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: from thirty years prior, but that was that was the 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: first music I got into. So I got into like 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: the old fifties and sixties stuff. And then the first 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: band I got into was Kiss, which is crazy because 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: they were really popular in the seventies. And then Sean Cassidy. 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if you even remember who Sean Cassidy is, 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: but that was my first pop star that I got into. 52 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: And then you know, later developed you know, this thing was, 53 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: you know, having a big affection for Michael Jackson's music 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: and then later getting into Beatles and Pink Poyd and stuff. 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: So music has always been kind of a segue for 56 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: me when I'm depressed, you know, when I'm when I'm manic, 57 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: when I'm angry, when I'm happy, when I'm wanting to 58 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: sell it. I mean, it's sexy time, It's everything, you know, music, 59 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: music is the soundtrack of our lives. And you know, 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful and honored that I now have a 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: stake in the game and that people, you know tell 62 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: me things like, oh, you know, I listen to your 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: music when I go work out, or I put your 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: music on to go run to because it motivates me, 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: or you know, I was really depressed and it was 66 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: so exciting, you know, because I listened to your music 67 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: and you know, it pulled me out of my depression, 68 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: or it gave me some insight. So I mean, you know, yes, 69 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: it not only does it affect me, but now I'm 70 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 2: grateful that my music is helping to affect others. 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: So I think it's fair to say that you believe 72 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: music has spiritual healing powers for mental, physical, emotional problems. 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, first of all, I think that you know, 74 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: there's great science and research behind the idea that you know, 75 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: the tone, the very tone of the music can affect 76 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: you in a different way, The frequency of a musical 77 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: note can affect you in a different way. You know, 78 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: these different effects, different emotions that are evoked just based 79 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: on the chord that's being played. It doesn't even have 80 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: to be a particular song or a particular lyric. That's that. 81 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: Then you add on, you know, deep and meaningful lyrics 82 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: and things that have you know, a message behind it, 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: and you can really, you know, gain quite a lot 84 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: from listening to certain artists. So yes, absolutely, it's provocative 85 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: and thought inspiring. 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: Why does music have the ability to give people hope 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: and really dark times. 88 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: Well, I think that it's if you go back to 89 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: our history, I mean literally go back to the earliest days, 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: you know, you will find that music has always been 91 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: inspirational and motivational. You know, they used it. I mean 92 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: even going back to like the old war films, you know, 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: nineteen twenties and stuff like that. They would use these big, 94 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: proud marching bands and you have very boisterous sounding stuff, 95 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: you know, to make us feel like we were in 96 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: charge and we were winning. And you know, it's like 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: even propaganda films. We're using music very early on for 98 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: stuff like that. And even before that, I mean you 99 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: go back to the country days, you know, when they 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: didn't even have film yet, they didn't have anything, but 101 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: they had records, you know, records where I think the 102 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: very first form of medium there was radio and there 103 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: were records. I mean, those were the things that really 104 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: started at all. So I think music has just always 105 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: been something that's connected humans. 106 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: Describe how you feel when you realize that your music 107 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: has impacted a member of your audience who may be 108 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: going through a challenge. 109 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful feeling, you know, especially when somebody says 110 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: something to me, like, you know, your words really inspired me, 111 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: or you know, I was reading your lyrics and it 112 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: made me realize that, you know, I could do better, 113 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: or life is worth another chance, or I shouldn't give 114 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: up on myself. But things like that, you know, it's 115 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: so beautiful. It's such a beautiful feeling to know that 116 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: something that I can create from the pain that I've 117 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: endured and I put that into my art, and that 118 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: that can actually be transposed to another human and they 119 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: can download that frequency and feel that connection. I mean, 120 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: that is a very powerful medium. You know, it's beautiful. 121 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: As someone who has had struggles, what do you want 122 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: folks in the audience to know about those? And some 123 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: need that they might be forgetting Well, you know. 124 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: What, Look, we all about these struggles, right, Nobody has 125 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: a perfect life. If it was, then you wouldn't be 126 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: getting the full experience and you would be getting deprived 127 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: of the human experience because you know, look, there's no 128 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: reward without risk, There is no glory without work, there 129 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: is no you know, victory without struggle. So we must 130 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: endure the bad to achieve the good. And I think 131 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 2: that you know, as a human being, you know, you write, 132 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: and especially as an artist, you write about your struggles, 133 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 2: but you also write about coming out the other side 134 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: of it and what it takes to endure it. So 135 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: I think it's good to always lead by example and 136 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: to put positive messages. You know, there's so much music 137 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: out there that's meaningless and nonsensical, and you go, you know, 138 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: what do we really need to know about your moody 139 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: or do you really need to you know, talk about 140 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: you know, how much money you have or what kind 141 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: of car you're driving. Nobody cares. But when it's something 142 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: that's motivational and inspirational and can cross generations and give 143 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: you that spirit, that that uplifting feeling in your soul 144 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: that makes you want to dance, it makes you want 145 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: to you know, feel inspired and do good things or whatever. 146 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: I mean. That is such a powerful tool that we're 147 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: given as songwriters and as artists. I don't think it 148 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: should ever be taken for granted. 149 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: Talk about some of the artists and some of the 150 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: songs that have lifted you up at dark moments that 151 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: might be meaningful to someone listening today. 152 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: You know, one of the most powerful songs ever goes 153 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: back to Michael Jackson Man in the Mirror. I love 154 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: that song because it's you know, it says so much 155 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: and Michael didn't even write that one. It was actually 156 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: written by Taya Garrett. But it's a beautiful song. I mean, 157 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: it's just it's so on point because we all, you know, 158 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: we all feel insecure, and you know, sometimes we look 159 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: in the mirror and we give ourselves that self assurance 160 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: that we need to keep moving, to keep going forward, 161 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: and sometimes we don't like what we see looking back 162 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: at us, and that's when we have to phase ourselves 163 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: and deal with it and have some self healing and 164 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: repair work. And so I think that's a very powerful song. 165 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: It's always been so spiritual and inviting. And I wrote 166 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: a song actually that is kind of inspired by that song, 167 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: which is called It So Simple, which is about, you know, 168 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: how the world can be a better place if you know, 169 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: we choose to take the time to help each other out, 170 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: to care about each other, to be real, you know, 171 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: things can get better, but it's up to us. It's 172 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 2: an inside job. So you know, that's a song I 173 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: wrote when I was fifteen, so you know, and again 174 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: I think that actually was before Men in the Mirror 175 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: came out. But it's in that same vein of you know, 176 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: kind of self work, self healing and looking inside ourselves. 177 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: And I think that's a beautiful message. Beatles have been, 178 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: you know, my therapy and you know, through the last 179 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: forty years or whatever. So God bless them. 180 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: Any particular Beatles songs, oh. 181 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: Too many to count. You know. I love pretty much 182 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: everything everything that they ever did. I love all of it. 183 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: You know, the Beatles, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, their solo stuff, 184 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: the Wing stuff, Paul stuff, Post Beatles, everything, and then 185 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 2: you know, Pink Floyd is another one, Billy Joel is 186 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: another one. There's so many great songwriters that I love. 187 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: And then even you know, more contemporary artists, people like 188 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: you know, Eminem, I've always liked Eminem, you know, or 189 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: a lot it's more said, I think it's great, or 190 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: you know, even and even still like people like Halsey, 191 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: who are amazing, you know, moving into today's artists. So 192 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: you know, there's a there's a wide spectrum of music 193 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: that I listened to, but as long as they're saying something, 194 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: that's really what it comes down to. 195 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: Corey, thank you for sharing your journey on music save me. 196 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, Music saved me. God bless you.