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Speaker 2: The World's a vaginal podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Evan melted by the way he

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Speaker 3: said this summer is overrated. He can't be outside. We

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Speaker 4: I didn't say summer was overrated.

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Speaker 3: And summer's overrated. It's too hot. He doesn't do hard

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Speaker 5: So you love it though, you love that it's one

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Speaker 5: hundred degrees out, you're not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred might be a little bit strong. But

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Speaker 3: I did you know last week we had the holiday

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Speaker 3: was in the nineties. So justin in New Hampshire is

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Speaker 3: soft like you, Evan, he says, maybe it's the New

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Speaker 3: England or in me. But I'd much rather be sitting

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Speaker 3: at forty three degree weather right now, in this ninety

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Speaker 5: I'm soft like sixty five and Sonny is the sweet spot.

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Speaker 5: That's the best weather right there. Apparently in Oak Bluffs

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Speaker 5: right now, there is a replica orca at the dock

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Speaker 5: that's sitting there in for the fiftieth anniversary. So so

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go big time. I'm gonna do take a

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Speaker 5: picture on the Orca for you guys. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I know I'm the biggest JAS fan here, so that

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Speaker 4: That would be meat twenty two.

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Speaker 3: We haven't talked about the right side of the offensive

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Speaker 3: line being about nine hundred pounds of human meat, which

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Speaker 3: that can only be a phrase that you would say. Yes,

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Speaker 6: All right, welcome everybody, the Patriots Unfiltered. That's right, it's

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Speaker 6: Deuce in the host chair back to save you from

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Speaker 6: weather talk with these two guys.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sorry everyone, it's actually Salt and Pepper with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we allowed you to be on our show, too

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Speaker 3: nice and we invited you.

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Speaker 4: Alex is always invited.

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Speaker 3: But I just wanted to special special thank you. I

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Speaker 3: think it was justin in New Hampshire, who would much

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Speaker 3: rather have this miserable weather than you know, the beautiful

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Speaker 6: But we've had to keep break and Paul's miserable, but

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Speaker 3: Thirty five degree dropping temperature awesome.

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Speaker 6: Blazarre, Perillo, Alex and uh off the top. Alex, just

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Speaker 6: back from Pepa.

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Speaker 4: Of course they were making fun of our hair color,

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Speaker 3: Combination of the hair color and the you know music,

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Speaker 3: Love Love It, Salt and Peppa.

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Speaker 6: So to start off though real quick, Alex, you're back

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Speaker 6: from New York. You were the hashtag Sports Awards sure

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Speaker 6: winning award here for our last year the schedule release

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Speaker 6: video Good Jewels Hunting. So that was a big night

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Speaker 6: for you guys. Juni, Veronica came down there. Represent three

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Speaker 7: Went down there.

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Speaker 8: It was a two day conference and then the award

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Speaker 4: Was it hote? We understand that was it stinky?

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Speaker 8: It was definitely stinky. It was definitely hot. But I

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Speaker 7: But it was tough. Some some people have I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I liked it better than most, Like I went for

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Speaker 3: And you made it backble.

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Speaker 7: I like the heat. I like to sweat. I think

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Speaker 4: Heat isn't like horrible in New York City.

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Speaker 7: And it was definitely trash day, so that was tough.

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Speaker 6: Now do they take their trash out the night before

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Speaker 4: It's a good question.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 7: I didn't notice, but it was.

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Speaker 8: It's funny because like the snow barrels, it's just the bags,

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Speaker 4: The subway to it gets hot down there.

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Speaker 8: But you know what the congestion pricing in Manhattan, it's

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Speaker 7: Now, Like we went from.

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Speaker 3: And who but we.

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Speaker 8: Are talking about it because I think Veronica was like

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Speaker 4: Quite that's hilarious.

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Speaker 7: I was telling Deuce about that.

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Speaker 8: I didn't pick on them too much, but we were

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Speaker 8: just talking. They were like, Oh, where's the NFL headquarters.

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Speaker 8: I was like, you guys, it's in New York City.

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Speaker 8: Don't you remember when Portnoy and Company got arrested for.

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Speaker 3: And people that didn't live in a room for the

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Speaker 7: That this was either veronic courage.

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Speaker 4: You So people that didn't for the Patriots, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 7: You're right vern because the Steelers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah she's from here though, but we're all Patriots.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, we had a great time. It was really

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Speaker 8: cool met Hannah Storm. That was a fun little moment.

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Speaker 8: She received a Lifetime Achievement Award. Very fitting.

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Speaker 7: Wow, made some great connections out there.

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Speaker 8: I was like, on my a game with the schmoozing

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Speaker 3: Exactly the most politically correct comment that I'm that I've

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Speaker 3: ever made. But Hannah Storm, Yeah, still bringing high, can

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Speaker 8: But funny story, they're announcing our category because we're in

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Speaker 7: Coronica, Holy, like, we gotta go now.

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Speaker 8: They just announced and there was a woman from the

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Speaker 7: So fortunately we did.

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Speaker 8: We're very frazzled on the stage, managed to make a speech.

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Speaker 7: And get but it was just a blur because it

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Speaker 7: Children I did. I'm sure you couldn't stream it.

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Speaker 5: The joke, Well, I'm an award winning actor.

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Speaker 8: Was someone that tweeted, Evan, you're an actor and an

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Speaker 7: Difference, I'm an actor in an award That was great.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of people that don't have awards to

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Speaker 6: By that, and they're way better actors.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 6: So you'll notice we're all in our patriots polos today,

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Speaker 6: Alex and get the message. Apparently I didn't.

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Speaker 7: Get mine yet.

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Speaker 6: Shot a little training camp preview. We're getting close. Were

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Speaker 3: I'm just excited to enjoy some more sixty eight degree

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Speaker 6: I think they heard your complaints. And now they're pumping

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Speaker 6: be because it's slowly getting hotter and hotter in here.

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Speaker 6: Now? It's like Salt and Pepper going off, going off

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Speaker 7: Paprika was kidding that.

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Speaker 3: Was Spinderella Spinderella, you turn it up one time.

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Speaker 6: and six AFC Divisional game Patriots Chargers, which I watched

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Speaker 4: Try Brown Hero.

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Speaker 6: Well, I came out of that one saying Marty Schottenheimer

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Speaker 4: They were a better team.

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Speaker 6: They were a better team, no question. And so just

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Speaker 6: I was like, this is I mean Brady had I

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Speaker 6: There was another one where he got sack fumbled that

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Speaker 3: So that was a day that ended in day. In

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Speaker 3: those days, Well, Brady had an unbelievable knack of like

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Speaker 3: somehow corralling his strip sacks very He would he when

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Speaker 6: It was unbelievable. He looked off to me in the

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Speaker 6: they won that game, But I had to pull some

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Speaker 6: It was only by one tenth of a point. It

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Speaker 3: Game performance game if they won.

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Speaker 6: And they still won playoff game.

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Speaker 3: So I would I'm going to be full disclosure. Would

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Speaker 3: I would have picked the seven AFC championship game against

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Speaker 3: it's one of your face, Paul, I mean, I have

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Speaker 6: Why don't you just tell me the twenty eleven AFC

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Speaker 3: I was just going to say it must have been

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Speaker 5: This is passer rating, yeah right, but it's still multiple interceptions.

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Speaker 4: Three man three.

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Speaker 3: Picks is three picks.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: But he played poorly in the yeah, the.

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Speaker 4: Championship game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember him playing all that poorly in

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Speaker 3: I don't remember him being all that bad in that game,

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Speaker 6: He was struggled. There's just some of the other games

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Speaker 3: Was the lower terrible.

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Speaker 4: I mean that everybody was terrible.

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Speaker 6: I mean in great defense too at Denver in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 5: But even that game, though, like he still has the

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Speaker 4: It's like one of the best.

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Speaker 3: Starts the drive in general. Yeah, ended up going down

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Speaker 5: Then the amount of like that throw is because they

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Speaker 4: Like perfect throw.

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Speaker 6: And that's the same thing to rishey callwell, the one

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Speaker 5: Oh, the one that he dropped in the end zone. No, no,

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Speaker 6: TI game, thy game. I mean, I'm not sure where

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Speaker 3: I want to say it was third and ten, third

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Speaker 6: Pa was on the line and that was the one,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm you guys know I hate Brady, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't mean to talk about his worst games,

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Speaker 6: you know, make it interesting. I thought the fifth worst

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Speaker 4: See like I would think he wasn't good.

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Speaker 5: That that game was worse than the twenty eleven championship game.

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Speaker 5: Just but watching the two of the games, Yeah, it

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Speaker 4: They they didn't move the ball at all.

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Speaker 3: I mean they Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 5: All he needed was one touchdown drive it in the

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Speaker 4: They couldn't do it.

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Speaker 6: They were dead. Yeah, they're dead in the water. Yeah, lost.

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Speaker 6: Just points to bring up about this was no surprise.

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Speaker 3: Five hundred dards in it.

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Speaker 4: Really glad we brought that one up.

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Speaker 6: Crazy, But no, I just one other thing I thought

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Speaker 6: it was funny to bring up up about this game

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Speaker 3: Set about do you remember this coming back to the

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, it's classy. He would

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Speaker 4: It never win either.

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Speaker 3: Well aware of that storyline, and I think that was

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Speaker 3: You want to bitch about the officiating, I think that's

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Speaker 6: So the thing that caught my eye about this, Paul

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: In the first quarter, I believe it might have been

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Speaker 4: I'm like, that's all.

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Speaker 3: That stuff all the time, back to the he was

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, he loves it now. I was another

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Speaker 6: they take will fark out the bridge overs screen in,

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Speaker 6: It's you know, compared to what we watched today where

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And then actually at halftime, if you guys stick around

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Speaker 6: So it was fun. It was fun, good game, you know,

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Speaker 3: It was nice to bring Mic down Memory Lane. Memory

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Speaker 6: That was one of my favorite fair.

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Speaker 5: Certainly games that I've never watched again because they lost,

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Speaker 6: I would rather Well, I can't even tell you what

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Speaker 5: That gouge my eyes out to watch that game again.

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Speaker 6: Well, what were you guys, what were your favorite fan

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Speaker 6: experiences like growing up when you were younger before This

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Speaker 6: is like your job, but there's certain fans, but like

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Speaker 6: twenty fourteen, I came here, had a bunch of stuff

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Speaker 6: to punt for a touchdown. Me and my buddy, Fitsy,

447
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 6: my sister, we were all, you know, giving stuff away.

448
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,639
Speaker 3: There were on celebrating.

449
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 9: I had.

450
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 6: I had to get my boy, my guy, had to

451
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,439
Speaker 6: get my guy, get my guy.

452
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:17,480
Speaker 4: But that was that.

453
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,920
Speaker 6: Those are two of my my favorite Patriots experience. Nothing

454
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,879
Speaker 6: in top San Diego. It's a playoff game, but just

455
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 6: such a cool experience be a fan watch your team

456
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 6: pull an upset.

457
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Speaker 3: I had a very cool fan experience at San Diego.

458
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 3: Also from ninety six, I would say the best for

459
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,880
Speaker 3: me would be the division playoff against Pittsburgh in ninety six.

460
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,160
Speaker 3: Here first home playoff win fog game twenty eight three.

461
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 3: Patriots blew out a really good Pittsburgh team. Yeah, they

462
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,959
Speaker 3: won the AFC Championship game the next week, but they

463
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 3: didn't play as well in that game. That was That

464
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 3: was for me. You got some tie brother, because all

465
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 3: the real you know, like all the Super Bowls, I

466
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 3: was working, So they're not fan.

467
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Speaker 6: Experiences for me. No, it's totally different.

468
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 3: It's different. You're not saying that.

469
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 4: I remember du said he's been to the Super Bowls.

470
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 3: Remember that him and constantly I've been to quite a few.

471
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 4: And he's got some rings as well.

472
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 3: It was actually at the ninety sixth Super Bowl too

473
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 3: as a fan. So yeah, ten, ten of them. Well,

474
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 3: actually I missed one of them. Damn will babies.

475
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Speaker 6: The birth of my son because that specifically, Paul, for you,

476
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 6: is that specifically the game experience of self or was

477
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 6: it like the tailgate before, you know, the the game

478
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 6: experience for the Pittsburgh game?

479
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: You know it just you know it was it was

480
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 3: like one three hour long party. You know. They they

481
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 3: took control of the game right away. I want to say,

482
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 3: they forced a three and out, then they went right

483
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 3: down and scored a touchdown, forced another three and out,

484
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 3: went down and scored a touchdown.

485
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 6: The game was kind of old.

486
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 3: It was three It was three hours of just celebration. Yeah.

487
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 6: Well that's the funny thing watching that Chargers game, It's

488
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 6: like it was a terrible game, Like both teams were

489
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 6: like off. It wasn't back and.

490
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: Forth and scoring. It was like I felt like the

491
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 3: Chargers running the roadge of blowing that game open seventeen times,

492
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 3: and then they just kept stopping the ball, like Vincent

493
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 3: Jackson couldn't catch, Oh my god, punt returner guy couldn't catch.

494
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 3: Eric partner Marlon McCree couldn't catch, like then nakating this

495
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 3: is a field goal at the end, and they lose.

496
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: It's like, how does a fourteen and two team lose

497
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: at home in the playoffs. Well, here's about ten things

498
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 3: you probably don't want to do if you don't want

499
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 3: to get upset at home in the playoffs. And they

500
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 3: did like eight of them.

501
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 6: I know, I mean drops right out of the gate.

502
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 6: You could just tell they weren't ready to go.

503
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 3: Alex is shaking her head like how does he remember this?

504
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 7: I just wanted you're a Marvel, Paul, You're a Marvel?

505
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 3: What about you?

506
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 6: Alex?

507
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: What do you?

508
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 6: What are your fan experiences?

509
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 8: I didn't have a ton in stadium. I would always

510
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 8: go to like early season games when it's warm. I

511
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 8: just preferred to watch it on TV. But I think

512
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 8: the one that stands out to me the most is

513
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 8: the Seahawks Super Bowl. You know, we hadn't won in

514
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 8: a while, and at this point, I'm now like I

515
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 8: was old enough in O seven and eleven to really

516
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 8: be like dialed in with all the players, but we hadn't.

517
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 7: Won a super Bowl yet.

518
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 8: And then in eleven, I just remember I was with

519
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 8: like fifteen of my high school friends. One of them

520
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 8: had a pretty sweet bonus room above their garage.

521
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 7: We're all up there and just you didn't know what

522
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 7: was going to happen.

523
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 8: You thought we were going to lose, and then that

524
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 8: interception happens, and I'll just like never forget celebrating with

525
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 8: all my friends. And that was before like I was

526
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 8: arrogant about by fandom too, you know, because by the

527
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 8: time the Atlanta and ram Super Bowl came around, like

528
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 8: I've refound my cockiness about the Patriots, you know, so

529
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 8: that the United.

530
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Speaker 6: It's I mean, that's kind of what I was thinking

531
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 6: about because you mentioned Nickeating missed the field goal at

532
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 6: the end, but this was now Patriots team that was

533
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 6: in the beginning stages two years in after this of

534
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 6: things don't quite go right those last drives with some

535
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 6: of the with some of those games where it came

536
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 6: down to the end, they couldn't quite.

537
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 3: Make we stops.

538
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 6: You know, very next week, next week, they can't make

539
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 6: a stop. You get to super Bowl forty two, they

540
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 6: can't make a stop. Super Bowl forty six, they can't

541
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 6: make a stop. It was kind of a theme to me.

542
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 6: Was one of the last games where it kind of

543
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 6: worked out. Okay, you know, same thing with the Eagle

544
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 6: Super Bowl. In super Bowl thirty nine where they get

545
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 6: a last chance, they look discombobulated. Brodney Harrison picks off

546
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 6: an Aaron throw and ends it. But those are really

547
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 6: plays that became a problem. And that's why I think

548
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 6: super Bowl forty nine was such an emotional roller coaster,

549
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 6: because you had to experience that feeling of like this

550
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 6: is it. They're gonna blow it again on a freak play,

551
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 6: and you know, this is what's been happening back you

552
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 6: know since.

553
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: I mean I definitely had that feeling to the point.

554
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 8: Where like we had like shut off the game and

555
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 8: we were like just going downstairs.

556
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 7: I forget exactly.

557
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 8: Well, we were going downstairs to like going to judge

558
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 8: that my friend Tyler's dad was watching it in their

559
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 8: living room.

560
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 7: We were upstairs in the bonus room.

561
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 8: Something happened where we were like heading downstairs and we

562
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 8: were just gonna finish watching it in the living room

563
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 8: with his dad and leave, and we were just watching

564
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 8: just to like, all right, let's watch them lose. And

565
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 8: then they didn't and it was like.

566
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was they couldn't believe it happened.

567
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: There's still time. Yeah, Like I was getting Seattle the points,

568
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 3: but I was like, you know, it's still Brady, they

569
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: still have time. I wasn't thinking the game was over. No,

570
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 3: I definitely thought Seattle was going to score. Once they

571
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 3: catch the ball with that fluke played on the sideline,

572
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: It's like another one of these kind of you know,

573
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: David Tyree plays and they get this one.

574
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 6: But what did the auxiliary press box feel like at

575
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 6: that moment?

576
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 3: Paul So I was at in that particular Super Bowl?

577
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 4: Were you watching it on TV.

578
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: The auxiliary press box at that particular Super Bowl? You're

579
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: actually in the stands, but you're not with the masses

580
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: they I was. I was with Andy and NBA Kenny.

581
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 5: He was with us in the auxiliary press. Kenny was

582
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 5: at a big Boston sporting event. I'm shot NBA Kenny.

583
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 6: Ye about you have him? What's your what's your fan experience?

584
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 5: Oh boy? I was at super Bowl thirty six, so

585
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 5: that that's up there. I was nine actually, and Bourbon

586
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 5: Street the type before was fun too, and then that and.

587
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 6: I didn't even like it all that much at thirty

588
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 6: Then blizar with beads on.

589
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 7: Nine years old. It's open car here.

590
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 5: I had, I had my walk around, I had my face,

591
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 5: I had my face painted with the with the Elvis

592
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 5: on it, and I had the beads on. And my

593
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 5: dad had his hand just permanently over my eyes and

594
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 5: I had the beads. So they were like, yeah, yeah,

595
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 5: there there's a lot of that going on.

596
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: I ain't thought like smile.

597
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 6: It's still pretty debating the matchup with the random drunk

598
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 6: people on the street, like, well, I just I mean,

599
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 6: it's the greatest by Carol Brown.

600
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: Some dube is like, you know, I'm really worried about

601
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 3: the you know, the nickel package. I wouldn't worry at all.

602
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 5: Well, as you can imagine, that was me as a kid,

603
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: and it either went one of two ways. Either the

604
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 5: adults were into it and thought it was funny that

605
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 5: I thought I knew what everything, you know, or they

606
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 5: would get like annoyed that this like eight or nine

607
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 5: year old. Look, yeah right, I was going now away.

608
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 5: But I was at Super Bowl thirty six after the

609
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 5: game too. I'll never forget my uncle who was probably hammered,

610
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 5: and I obviously didn't know because I was nine years old,

611
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 5: just running up and down the street yelling we.

612
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 4: Shocked the world.

613
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 5: We shocked the world, and like we were like just

614
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 5: on cloud nine obviously, But that was I would say

615
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 5: probably fifteen of us went to that game, and we

616
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 5: had like seats just all sprinkled out throughout the entire

617
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 5: stadium because he couldn't all sit together, so it was

618
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 5: my dad and my grandfather and I where three of

619
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 5: us sat together, but everybody else was all scattered throughout

620
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 5: the entire stadium. But David Patten's touched on the back

621
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 5: of the end zone happened right in front of us,

622
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: So that was that was really cool.

623
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think that.

624
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 6: Game had a big impact on you choosing this as

625
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 6: like a career path and wanted to come.

626
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 5: I mean that whole season did like that, you know,

627
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 5: Brady coming in and the two thousand and one season,

628
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 5: and you know, that was the first season that I

629
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 5: can really vividly remember what was happening and like you know,

630
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 5: watching the games and things like that, and you know,

631
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 5: I still remember my dad telling me that we were going,

632
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 5: which was an awesome moment as well, and I was

633
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: like screaming throughout the house, like I was so excited.

634
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 5: And we we went through like a crazy route to

635
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 5: get there. Uh, nine to eleven had just happened, so

636
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 5: like the airports were like on lockdown, so it was

637
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 5: like insane security especially. Yeah, So we flew from like Boston,

638
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 5: Boston to Houston or Dallas and then drove from there

639
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 5: to New Orleans. We like rented a car and drove

640
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 5: from there to New Orleans part of the Oh God,

641
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 5: and like the people that were having a good time,

642
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 5: you know, the adults, Like the ride back was just disgusting,

643
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 5: Like we were pulling over to the side of the

644
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 5: road because people couldn't, you know, keep their breakfast down.

645
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 7: And I was like the breakfast, yeah.

646
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, and like all this stuff, and my cousin was

647
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 5: like she was like nine. She was in college, so

648
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 5: she was probably like nineteen or twenty at the time.

649
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 5: And the story that they told me was that she

650
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 5: ate bad pizza, and they I had no idea to

651
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 5: think any differently. And then I got into like my

652
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 5: teenage years, and I was like, you didn't have bad pizza.

653
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: You know it.

654
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: It was one of those drinking Yeah. Yeah, So.

655
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 5: That was number one. I mean, that's number one by

656
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 5: a mile. But I was also here for the twenty

657
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: four to three comeback against Denver in twenty thirteen. I

658
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: want to say it was uh and that was my

659
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: twenty first birthday, So my family took me to the

660
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 5: game on my twenty first birthday and the tailgate was

661
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: a great time, and then the game itself, a lot

662
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 5: of our party, a lot of the people that were

663
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 5: with us actually left at halftime because it was like

664
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 5: it was freezing. It was I think twenty degrees that

665
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 5: night with a crazy wind chill. It was really cold

666
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 5: and they were down twenty four to three, and at

667
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: the time, that's the biggest comeback in Patriots history until

668
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 5: twenty eight to three, and they came back and they

669
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 5: won that game. So those are probably be my two

670
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 5: top games, but I went to games all through out

671
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 5: my childhood, so there's a bunch.

672
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 6: Of It's kind of like something Alex and I were

673
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 6: talking about. It's just something to me, is trying to

674
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 6: make sure that kids fall in love with the game

675
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 6: of football and are still able to like go to

676
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 6: these games and experience it.

677
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: You know.

678
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 6: I think that's why I love training camp. It's opportunity

679
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 6: for you know, people to go and you know, not

680
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 6: worry about you know, have to spend a thousand dollars

681
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 6: to do it.

682
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you sound like you're you like you

683
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 3: work for like the Chamber of Commerce, for like cricket. Somehow,

684
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 3: the NFL needs to have people get They need more

685
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: eyes like and more attention on the sport. Well, I

686
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: mean we need to grow. We want to make sure

687
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: that the kids this NFL. Maybe it might catch on

688
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: some day.

689
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 6: Well maybe it's just my kids, but I don't they

690
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 6: like football. They both like flag football, but they're nowhere

691
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 6: near invested in the team at all.

692
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 7: I don't think it's just kids.

693
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: I think it's just not very good.

694
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 8: Well it's not even just the Patriots in general. I

695
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 8: think it's a growing trend in all of sports.

696
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: I would totally agree.

697
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 7: It's aren't really following sports like we used to.

698
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: They don't have teams the way we did, know.

699
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 8: And just the way you can just get highlights and

700
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 8: clips on YouTube here and there, Like they're not watching games.

701
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I was always a big Celtics fan

702
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 5: since birth basically, but the two thousand and one Patriots

703
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 5: I was eight nine years old, and that changed my

704
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 5: sports fandom forever. I mean, I became a die hard,

705
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 5: diehard page not that I wouldn't have maybe anyways, but

706
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 5: I definitely that was the season and you know, Brady

707
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 5: coming in and all that stuff. So I really deduced

708
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 5: this question or like that did probably change my life honestly,

709
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 5: not to be dramatic, but like that and honestly probably did.

710
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 6: No, I mean I still think, I mean I still

711
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 6: think about it. The first time I went to the

712
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 6: old stadium and just I remember walking off of Route one.

713
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 6: The stadium was a lot closer to the road back then,

714
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 6: and it looked like a castle to me on a hill,

715
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 6: and and just that impression dumb then it was a

716
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 6: dumb I was terrified. I was I'm watching fights, Yeah,

717
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 6: terrified but it made such an impression on me. I wonder, though,

718
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 6: if like that one team, it was so easy to

719
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 6: get on board with a team like that, like a young,

720
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 6: up and coming team and an underdog. We know the

721
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 6: cliches of that whole trope, and it's easy to get

722
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 6: invested in it. I wonder, you know, someone, if you're

723
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 6: in a lull right now, maybe true to that.

724
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: Because the first teams that I remember were actually very good. Yeah,

725
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: you know, seventy six, seventy seven, seventy eight, they won

726
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: a lot of games, yeah, you know, and that's you know,

727
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: my earliest years watching the team. My first game that

728
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: I went to was in seventy six and when eleven three.

729
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I.

730
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: Didn't necessarily have to suffer through all of those terrible

731
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: teams that they had, you know, when I was first

732
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: getting involved in the in the Patriots.

733
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 6: You kind of get the vibe when you watch some

734
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 6: of the Chiefs fans, some of the Eagles fans, even

735
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 6: their parades that they've been lucky enough to have. You know,

736
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 6: I do feel like the championships probably bring more of

737
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 6: the youth element in. It's easier to get on board

738
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 6: when they're sure you know, winning championships, and you know,

739
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 6: for the rest of the other thirty one teams in

740
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 6: the league that every year, it's it's just hard. I mean,

741
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 6: that's what I see firsthand of you know, Fred talks

742
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 6: about wanting to get kids involved in more in football,

743
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 6: and it's just that's a concern of mine.

744
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 5: But that's the first one that I mean, we didn't

745
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 5: know that Boston and sports in general were going to

746
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: go on this insane run like they did. But two

747
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: thousand one's the first one out of that whole group.

748
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: So I was four in nineteen ninety six, so it's

749
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 5: not like I really remember that, and you know, the

750
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 5: Celtics were horrible and like all throughout the nineties pretty much,

751
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 5: so really it was like just that was the start

752
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 5: of this incredible run. And then I think our generation

753
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 5: it's just so sports crazy because of how good all

754
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 5: the teams have been for the last twenty twenty five years.

755
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 5: It's hard not to be, you know, and every other

756
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 5: year a team is winning a championship, it's like you're

757
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 5: obviously gonna get invested and get excited about it.

758
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 6: So yeah, I have spoilt fans still around, Like you

759
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 6: still have people with just these unrealistic expectations. And sometimes

760
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 6: when we get into talking about the new regime and

761
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 6: Drake May and all that, it's like, how lucky we

762
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 6: would be if Drake May wins the Super Bowl? And

763
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 6: is that enough for people? I mean, is that going

764
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 6: to be like that?

765
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

766
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 6: Like I think like a lot of people are like, well,

767
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 6: I want at least two or three? Or does it

768
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 6: it's not enough? You know, it probably.

769
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 8: Depends on the generation you grew up in, right, like

770
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 8: Evan and mine. Like I was in kindergarten and no

771
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 8: one and I remember vividly, I told the story this weekend.

772
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 8: It was like Groundhog Day or something in kindergarten and

773
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 8: we came back at that weekend and they were talking

774
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 8: about the groundhog seeing its shadow, and I was like,

775
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 8: who the hell cares?

776
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 7: The Patriots won the Super Bowl? Like what are we

777
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 7: doing as a child, like a five year old? Five six?

778
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 7: Whatever you are?

779
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 8: And then those titles carried me Celtics, Bruins, Red Sox,

780
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 8: Patriots into postgrad and like becoming like getting my first

781
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 8: job at Mass Live and covering the World.

782
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 7: Series and the Patriots in eighteen, like.

783
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 5: There's so many of us that you know, all my

784
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 5: friends on the beat that this generation like it shaped

785
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 5: us to want to do this probably yea as like careers,

786
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 5: you know, and it just I know, definitely for me

787
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: and I can speak for Barth too, like that that's

788
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 5: why we're probably doing this.

789
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 4: Like is this all got us into it?

790
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 5: But I feel like that will happen, Like I think

791
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 5: you see that a little bit now with like Jason

792
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 5: Tatum and Jaylen Brown and this Celtics team.

793
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 7: Because they just love the Celtics, you.

794
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 5: Know, but it would be hard, it be hard to

795
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 5: be really into the Patriots or really into the Bruins

796
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 5: or the Red Sox right now because they're not having

797
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 5: the success that they they once were having.

798
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 4: So you know, it's tough.

799
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 5: Like there's no Burger on and you know, there's no Chara,

800
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 5: there's no there's none of that for this generation.

801
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 6: Like I look back at my yearbook from high school

802
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 6: and I grew up like three towns over, and you look,

803
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 6: I have like a Chicago Blackhawks. How like there's nobody

804
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 6: had like Patriot stuff on like every other thing exulting

805
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 6: Charlotte Hornet, like the Charlotte Hornet's starter jacket or you know,

806
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 6: those were the things that were in at that time,

807
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 6: and I don't really remember, right and black. We were

808
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 6: red in black, I think that's why. But there were

809
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 6: so many random teams, and I would guess, you know,

810
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 6: in the last twenty years, you look at high school

811
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 6: pictures there, you know, kids not going to be your

812
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 6: senior portraits.

813
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: Of course those are very.

814
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: Fancy and you want it to look nice, but you know,

815
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: other kids just where I never nobody wore Patriot stuff.

816
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 6: Nobody they were you know, they weren't even in the

817
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 6: league really at least that's how it.

818
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: Seemed at the time. But that's the only thing, you

819
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: know for me, and I'm the oldest one here obviously,

820
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: but true, the one regret would be all that winning.

821
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: Like when listening to Alex and Evan talk about the

822
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: impact it had in their childhood growing up, I just

823
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: wish that it had happened earlier for me, you know,

824
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: because it's great that they won the titles, but it's

825
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: not the same when you're an adult. Yeah, you don't

826
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: feel the same way. You know, you're not running into

827
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: parades and whatnot, you know.

828
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 7: And especially once you're doing this for your career, and

829
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 7: it's like.

830
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: It feels weirder to it's like everywhere to.

831
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 8: Be a fanboy and like obsessing over these kids that

832
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 8: are like younger than you.

833
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: But I would say, yeah, like for the Patriots, obviously

834
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: that's different. It's work. But even like when the Red

835
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 3: Sox won, you know, when they won the first one,

836
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: it was unbelievable and we were excited. But like I

837
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: just imagined when the eighty six one happened and they

838
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: were one strike away, you know, twelve times in the

839
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 3: you know, in the ninth inning of the tenth inning,

840
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: whatever it was, and we were all getting ready to go.

841
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: You know, I was a freshman in college at the time,

842
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: but we were all in my house in Everett, and

843
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: I had all my high school guys and we were

844
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: all just waiting for the last out and we were

845
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: getting ready to go in to Ken Moore. Now I

846
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: didn't run into Chemo Square and four. You know, I'm

847
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: a grown adult with you know, responsibilities. I had no

848
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: baby yet, So it's just different. It's a different mentality.

849
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 3: Not that I wasn't excited when the Red Sox finally

850
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: won it. It was you know, it's probably the same

851
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: excitement I would have had, but like that party and

852
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: celebration is different. You don't feel You never feel the

853
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: same way when you're like fifteen.

854
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

855
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: It can't be the same way. Like if you recall

856
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: I made fun of you when you came in looking

857
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: like lucky to.

858
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: Leperco, I don't know if I felt. I don't know.

859
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 5: It's like I don't know if it was quite eight like,

860
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 5: oh it was my like Pearson Gardenet, that's my team, right, Like,

861
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 5: I don't know if it was quite that level, but

862
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 5: it wasn't far off.

863
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: It was, No, it was Celtics were the only one

864
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: of the teams that I got to enjoy championships when

865
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: I was in high school. Now, I still didn't go

866
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 3: to the parades because that's not my thing.

867
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 8: But having two championship while at UMass and just seeing

868
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 8: that campus like.

869
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: That was the other part of line.

870
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 7: Burned down the Socks.

871
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: Losing to the Mets, we had like a team brawl

872
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: because everybody was either from Boston or New York, so

873
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: it was it was not pretty.

874
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 6: That's fun. Well, you guys, you know, good time. Next week,

875
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 6: fourth of July is coming up, and you can stuck

876
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,320
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Speaker 6: the New England Patriots, and said the phones are stacking

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Speaker 6: up a little bit. We got emails coming in. Give

885
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 6: us a call Patriots on filtered hotline eight five to five,

886
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 6: PATS five hundred, or shoot us an email podcast at

887
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Speaker 6: Patriots dot com. And let's I don't know do we start?

888
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 6: Do we start the show off with a bang? And

889
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 6: Christian LA, Let's do it? Hey, Christian going on? Hey,

890
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 6: what's up to you guys much?

891
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: Get to talk to you on a Thursday, about three

892
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: weeks out from football really starting. And I'm excited. One

893
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: thing I'm not excited about the haters. I listened to

894
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: the calls the other day and in the middle of

895
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: you guys do this thing where you have a couple

896
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: of genomics come on and they'll read an email. I've

897
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: been noticing that there's a lot of emails that have

898
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: pointed out good old Christians from LA. I am a

899
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: Patriots fan, people. I have been a Patriots fan since

900
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine. My best experience pace Bick fan was

901
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: getting the opportunity to go through the two thousand and

902
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: fifteen A Championship in Denver, stating on the same floor

903
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: as mister Craft and having a great conversation with me.

904
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: My pseudo worst experience the Patriots fan was my first experience,

905
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: and that was even Lyle Alzado paralyzed Daryl Daily on

906
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: Live on Team. It was stunning and I was just

907
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: or it wasn't why I was Who was the guy

908
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: that's that hit up?

909
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: Jack Tatum?

910
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: Jack Hatum in the back, Tatum with the over the

911
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: over the middle path just stunning. That's that's top long

912
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: and why would Patriots faces so to the haters, Hey man,

913
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm one of you guys. But if you come at me,

914
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: christopherla is gonna come at your parts. Okay, onto the football.

915
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot about the the the potential uh

916
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: amount of wins we're gonna have to this season and

917
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: it's somewhere around ten wins, and people are describing that

918
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 2: as a good season. That would be a good season.

919
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: If you can get ten wins, that's not a good season, guys.

920
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: That's a better season that we have. A good season

921
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: is getting over the humble, competing for the popping waiting

922
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: visit visit the championship, and then going on to at

923
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: least when one game in the playoffs. That's a good season.

924
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: That's we're people when you're looking for Damka and something

925
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: new and that could only happen, and with it, with

926
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: two things happening, we have to have somewhat compete both

927
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: defensive Player of the Year and we have to still

928
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: compete the offensive player of the year. We can all

929
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: collectively describe which people are gonna be, but those things

930
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: that happen, you're not typing a good seat. Thanks you guys.

931
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Speaker 2: Christic from LA out.

932
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Speaker 6: Well, that was a call drop the mic.

933
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Speaker 3: Uh can I just say really quickly what you guys

934
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: analyze all that? Yeah, Alex and Mike, you guys were right,

935
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: not sure if it will be enough? Right, not sure

936
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: if it will be enough because when you combined for

937
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Speaker 3: eight wins in the two previous seasons and win ten

938
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: and that's no good. You guys are right. I thought

939
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: that people would just just want to have a good

940
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: team again, but I was wrong.

941
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Speaker 6: I'd like to see, you know, functional offense that can

942
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 6: score points in the red zone. I'd love to see

943
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 6: them just stay in contention. I don't I mean, the

944
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 6: playoff wins seems like a lofty, a lofty thing to say.

945
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 6: If you get in, you're gonna be one those lower

946
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 6: seas you're gonna have to play. I don't think it's impossible,

947
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 6: but I'm.

948
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Speaker 3: Just saying, like, why can't it be a good season.

949
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: Why can't you just win more games?

950
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 6: It's a good double your win total from last year.

951
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Speaker 3: Says it's not a good season. They can win ten games,

952
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: not a good season. I think that's absurd.

953
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 4: It's not great.

954
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: Ten wins would be fantastic. They won eight combined the

955
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: last two years. Like, you're more than doubling your win

956
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: total from a year ago, and that's not good.

957
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 6: It's funny coming from Christian as he said he remembers

958
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 6: those old Patriots teams, that majority of that was that

959
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 6: was the ceiling for those old seventies Patrios Tams losing

960
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 6: in the first round.

961
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Speaker 3: I'm not telling you, you know, you need to have

962
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: a parade if you win ten games and get knocked

963
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: out of the playoffs, you know, whether you make it

964
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Speaker 3: or get knocked out in the first round, But like

965
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Speaker 3: you don't look at that as a positive step in

966
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: the rebuilding process.

967
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 7: That's why I worry if expectations are just too.

968
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: D I think you guys are right, I underestimated.

969
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 8: With the schedule, you know, not super It's not the

970
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 8: hardest schedule in the world. And then just with how

971
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 8: the excitement around and like bringing in guys like Digs,

972
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 8: even though that's still a big unknown too. I just

973
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 8: worry that we're so used to being so so like

974
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 8: low that expectations are just way too high.

975
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 6: I think Drake's part of it, too, I think there

976
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 6: I've said it before. I think there are people who

977
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 6: are like, we got the guy, and no question, Drake

978
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 6: may did a ton last year, very excited about him, but.

979
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Speaker 7: We forget about Matt Jones.

980
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 6: Is something this year though, you know, if this is

981
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 6: like the proving ground for him, and I think we'll

982
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 6: know it though, Paul, like I felt the last couple

983
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 6: of years, by the time you got to week three,

984
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 6: week four, you kind of knew. I mean, you could

985
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 6: probably even say in training camp, but give yourself September

986
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 6: to confirm what you think you saw in training camp.

987
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 6: I don't know how you guys felt, but we talked

988
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 6: about the Cincinnati win last year. Week one, we won

989
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 6: the first game, but we all kind of are like,

990
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 6: it's gonna be really tough to pull that off every week.

991
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 6: You know, by the time you get to that end

992
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 6: of September four or five games, you kind of know

993
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 6: what you got and you know what it's gonna be.

994
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 6: I just hope there's some excitement of you know, yeah,

995
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 6: there's some shortcomings on this team, maybe an injury or

996
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 6: something creates a problem that they don't quite have the

997
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: depth yet to handle, but you're gonna know it, like

998
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 6: it's just watching it on the field.

999
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 5: Well, I feel like that's why the ten win number

1000
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: has a negative connotation because of Mac Jones is a

1001
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 5: rookie year or they won ten games, but you kind

1002
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 5: of knew the team had a ceiling with him as

1003
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 5: a quarterback, and with the setup that they had, this

1004
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: ten wins could look different.

1005
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: This ten wins could look.

1006
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 5: Like Drake May is the guy and he has now emerged,

1007
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 5: not even more so than Mac Jones did his rookie

1008
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 5: year because of the physical traits where like you're like, okay, now,

1009
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 5: this is a guy that has a chance to be

1010
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: competing for like MVP someday, where I don't think any

1011
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 5: of us had, even after twenty twenty one, had any

1012
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 5: thought in our mind whatsoever that Mac Jones would one

1013
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: day be a top five quarterback in the NFL. Serviceable maybe,

1014
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 5: but not at that level. So ten wins is it's arbitrary,

1015
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 5: like it could It depends on how that ten wins

1016
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 5: looks to a good point, if they I'm to ten

1017
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 5: winned with seventeen to fourteen wins and there are all

1018
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 5: these rock fights like they were in twenty one and

1019
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 5: even parts of twenty two, and that's not that that

1020
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 5: appealing of a ten win season. But they're ten wins

1021
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 5: and Drake maythrows for forty five hundred yards and thirty

1022
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 5: five touchdowns. That's a different kind of ten win season.

1023
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a big difference, you know in context

1024
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: is you know, certainly part of it. And that's it's

1025
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 3: a good point about how it comes about. I find

1026
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: it hard to believe they'd be able to win ten

1027
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: games and have the quarterback not be responsible for any

1028
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: of them. They did that in twenty twenty one. They

1029
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: won ten games when the quarterback really didn't have much

1030
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: to do with any of.

1031
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: Those wins yet a little bit something to do.

1032
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: I said, didn't have much to do. I know, I

1033
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 3: didn't say that year.

1034
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 8: He was kind of just like the standard quarterback that

1035
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 8: he's not going to necessarily lose you any games, not

1036
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 8: going to necessarily.

1037
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: He was completely coddled and they didn't put him in

1038
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 3: any positions of harms.

1039
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 6: Hold my beer about the legs games, which is why

1040
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 6: they which is why they never had.

1041
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: Any come from behind wins. They beat up on. You

1042
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: know that the good wins that they had, the quote

1043
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 3: unquote good teams that they beat, were completely decimated when

1044
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: they played them, like Tennessee Rables, Tennessee team that game

1045
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 3: over the year twenty one guys against you know. But

1046
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: when I find it hard to Yeah, that's what I'm saying,

1047
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: Like they won ten games. I understand Evan's point. If

1048
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: they won ten games like that, maybe I wouldn't be

1049
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: as excited about it. Yeah, I find it hard to

1050
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 3: believe you can do that over and over again, just

1051
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: win ten games that will be in any game.

1052
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1053
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 5: I don't want to put words in Christian LA's mouth,

1054
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 5: but the Commanders I also feel like maybe set people

1055
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 5: up for expectations that are a little bit too lofty,

1056
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 5: like them doing what they did last year and going

1057
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 5: to the NFC Championship game way ahead of schedule. Now

1058
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 5: makes everybody think, well, the Commanders just did it, so

1059
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 5: why can't another team just do it? And it's that

1060
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 5: was incredibly rare, Like that was an incredibly rare feat

1061
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 5: that they had last year to make it that far

1062
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 5: with with the rebuild that they had, it wasn't There's

1063
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 5: really not a lot of president for it.

1064
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: So they beat Tampa in the wildcard game, so just

1065
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 3: using that as a Barama. So if they had lost

1066
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: to Tampa they were a wild card team. That would

1067
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: not have been a successful season. That would not have

1068
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: been a good season.

1069
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1070
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: So they won a lot of regular seasons, but they

1071
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: got knocked out in the Fruit Now, let's face it,

1072
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: they went to Tampa. Not everybody thought that Washington would

1073
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: win that game. Going in big er biggs, you know,

1074
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 3: they won it, and then they won again the next

1075
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 3: week in Detroit. So now it's a good season because

1076
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: they you know, like well.

1077
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 5: Two years ago Houston with a rookie Stroud won that

1078
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 5: game against Cleveland, which was Cleveland was kind of not really.

1079
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 4: A playoff team.

1080
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 5: Playoff team, you know, the end of the wild car

1081
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 5: typically that was a really good season. Then they got

1082
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 5: their doors blown off of them by Baltimore right in

1083
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 5: the second round.

1084
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 3: I don't think they got their doors blown off.

1085
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: But it wasn't very competitive.

1086
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 6: Have you guys seen much talk of people speculating that

1087
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 6: Washington will have the regression to the mean that we

1088
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 6: always talk about with big free agency classes.

1089
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: Not because of free agency crises, because I don't think

1090
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 3: that's how the team was built.

1091
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 6: But last year they kind of got a bump with

1092
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 6: bringing guys in. I mean Daniels.

1093
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: They got Daniels is what they got. The rest of

1094
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: it was kind of like the middle of the road.

1095
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: Kind of got like a veteran in Bobby Wagner, and

1096
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: you know you're gonna plug him in. You know, zach Ertz,

1097
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: who a lot of people thought was done, you know,

1098
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: went there and gave them a little bit of a lift,

1099
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Speaker 3: but they didn't. I don't think they spent big in

1100
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: free agency.

1101
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: They did, but they did it more of like a

1102
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 5: spread it out spend instead of instead of going and

1103
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 5: signing Milton Williams and like the top guy in free agency.

1104
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 5: But they spent a lot of money, they did, but

1105
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 5: they did they spread it out.

1106
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: It was a lot.

1107
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: Almost my new partner here and if he says it, I'm.

1108
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 6: Gonna type you don't mess with research. But I think

1109
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 6: to your point, though, Paul, it's a big piece of

1110
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 6: it as the quarterback. And if you have the quarterback

1111
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 6: and you make that move with free agency one year,

1112
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 6: and you have a good core around him and you

1113
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 6: have the support system that allows him to blossom, you're

1114
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 6: setting yourself up to avoid that.

1115
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: What I thought when I originally answered yes, I have

1116
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: heard a lot of the regression to the mean talk

1117
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: with Washington, and I have because where I thought you

1118
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: were going was. I've heard people and I don't know

1119
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: if this is just like you have this three hundred

1120
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 3: and sixty five day scrutiny that is now the NFL,

1121
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 3: like you have to find something to nitpick. I've heard

1122
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: people say that, well, because Jade Daniels was so experienced,

1123
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 3: having played six years of college football. He came as

1124
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: a finished product. Oh yeah, so that's as good as

1125
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 3: he's going to be.

1126
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 5: Yet I don't know. I'm not an MVP vote. So

1127
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 5: if that's as good as he's going to be, then

1128
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: like no, but now you figure it out.

1129
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 3: But but the point is, like you sort of figure

1130
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: him out and you take away some of the things

1131
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: that he does well, and he's not going to get

1132
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 3: any better than he is.

1133
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 5: I would worry about I don't know, I would worry

1134
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 5: pretty good. To me, it's Berry when it comes to that,

1135
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 5: more than Jayden Daniels, because Cliff Kingsberry, right, Kingsbury leaves.

1136
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 5: I love Cliff Kingsbury because his offense isn't really fun

1137
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 5: to break down, but he gets figured out. He's one

1138
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 5: of those guys that tends to get figured out eventually.

1139
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 5: Like in Arizona, every year post Thanksgiving, the Cardinals would

1140
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: just fall off a cliff offensively and you kind of

1141
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 5: get a feel for what they're doing. And last year

1142
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 5: with Washington, they ran a lot of the concepts that

1143
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 5: they he was running at LSU. They kind of just

1144
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 5: took a lot of that LSU stuff and brought it

1145
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 5: with Jaden Daniels to Washington. So an off season of

1146
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 5: defenses and defensive coordinators studying the film, like does that

1147
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 5: What is Cliff Kingsbury's pivot? Like what's his plan? B

1148
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 5: what's his you know, counter punch? If these teams figure

1149
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 5: out what they're doing, because what they did was actually,

1150
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 5: for the most part, pretty simplistic, Like it wasn't like

1151
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 5: they did anything overly exotic in terms of the types

1152
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 5: of plays that they were running. So I'm interested to

1153
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 5: see how they kind of adapt to that. Did the

1154
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 5: same thing happened to Philadelphia, Like Philadelphia got had that

1155
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 5: lull in the middle there between these two Super Bowls

1156
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 5: where they kind of got figured out they ran the

1157
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 5: same like half a dozen plays is most of the time,

1158
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 5: and teams sort of kind of got a feel for

1159
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 5: it and got a beat on it, and they had

1160
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 5: to hire you know, Kellen Moore and and spice it

1161
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 5: up and change it.

1162
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 3: The other part I would worry about with with Washington

1163
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: is the durability for Daniels. You know, a lot of

1164
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: people were wondering how he would hold up because he

1165
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: doesn't look like he's all that thick, you know, and

1166
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 3: they ran him a lot. So is he going to

1167
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: be like Lamar Jackson? Like you can run him a

1168
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: lot every year and for the most part get away

1169
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: with it, you know. I know Lamar missed some time,

1170
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 3: you know, in the last couple of seasons, not last year,

1171
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 3: the previous ones. But generally those kinds of quarterbacks get

1172
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: nicked up and banged up, they slow down. Lamar Jackson

1173
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: has been able to be elite for a long time.

1174
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 3: He's the outlier. Not a lot of guys that play

1175
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: like that do that.

1176
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 6: Like I'm thinking back to Robert Griffin, who had a

1177
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 6: good first year, great hit, a great rouk.

1178
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 4: Was that just injuries devastating?

1179
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 6: I mean, I find hard to believe that a rookie

1180
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 6: is a finished proser your boy, you know, Jayden Daniels

1181
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 6: look that good. It's hard to believe that he's not

1182
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 6: going to improve, at least marginally as he gets more

1183
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 6: experience and these different defenses. And I think after last

1184
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 6: year he has some should have so much confidence that

1185
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 6: that's such a big part of being a quarterback that

1186
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 6: you can overcome mistakes. You're not gonna you know, fall

1187
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 6: into the mental doldrums. If if things aren't going your way.

1188
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 6: But he's just such an explosive player and his downfield

1189
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 6: accuracy and ability to make plays.

1190
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: It's just it's uncanny.

1191
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 6: But we'll get a close look out of him there

1192
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 6: this summer and if you're around, come check him out.

1193
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 6: Uh let's go out to Fresno. Hello, speed on the Patriots.

1194
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 9: What hote going on?

1195
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 10: I've been holding on to an off season question for

1196
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 10: you guys for a couple of months, and today it

1197
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 10: seems like as good as it as any. It's not,

1198
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 10: it's unfortunately it's football related. I can't disappoint Evan, but

1199
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 10: we'll see. But so, like the situation is, your offense

1200
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 10: is at your own two yard line, and so you

1201
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 10: have tons of incentive to try and draw the defense offside,

1202
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 10: get nootral zone infraction, get some breathing room. And so

1203
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 10: in this case, the offense has like an unfair advantage

1204
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 10: because if they get calls for that false start, you

1205
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 10: know it's only half the distance you go from the

1206
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 10: two yard line to the one yard line. You get

1207
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 10: penalized at one yard, but you kind of steal the

1208
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 10: other four yards that should have been penalized. So why

1209
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 10: not tack those other four yards on to the first

1210
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 10: down marker. So if it's first and ten offense that

1211
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 10: they're on two offense false starts make the penalty. You

1212
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 10: have to half the distance, So scrimmage goes back to

1213
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 10: the one yard line and you would play first down,

1214
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 10: but the line to gain gets bumped in the twelve

1215
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 10: yard after the sixteen yard line.

1216
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 6: I see what you're saying.

1217
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 4: How often does this happen?

1218
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 6: So definitely minutial.

1219
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 10: Happened to postseason. It happened in the postseason like twice.

1220
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 10: That's when I thought about this.

1221
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 4: It happened in the postseason twice.

1222
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 10: When yes, this year, this past year, and I can't

1223
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 10: remember when I'm not tall.

1224
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 5: Well, the I mean I false start taking false starts.

1225
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: When you're backed up near your goal line. Yeah, they happen.

1226
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: But I mean, is that a problem?

1227
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 11: Is that?

1228
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: Is that like an issue in the league? I don't know.

1229
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the unfair Why is it unfair? Well,

1230
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 4: I just.

1231
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 10: Defense, defense gets called it's a five yard penalty. Where

1232
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 10: is it in the case that is the offense.

1233
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 3: Is so what happens when the offense has the ball

1234
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: in a in a third and goal from the one

1235
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: and the defense jumps off side. That happens, which happens

1236
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 3: a lot more than the offense get in the false starts,

1237
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 3: by the way, especially with the touch.

1238
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 10: I agree, And that's why my follow up was going

1239
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 10: to be, like, is there maybe there's not an analogous

1240
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 10: solution at the other end of the field when the

1241
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 10: offense has the advance.

1242
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: Well, the referee, Hocy Lee Junior just you know, threatens

1243
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: to you can do that in the rollbut just make

1244
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: it a touchdown because I forget the phrase that he used.

1245
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 3: But the palpably unfair act or.

1246
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 5: Something that's actually in the rowboat that right, wasn't some

1247
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 5: kind of nonsense.

1248
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 3: Like that, I don't know.

1249
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's in the rule book that if a

1250
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 5: team continuously jumps offside to try to stop like a

1251
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 5: sneak like the touch push or something like that. I'm

1252
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 5: going to figure wag the ref can literally get I

1253
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 5: don't know why smocking it.

1254
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,479
Speaker 4: It literally has It's stupid. It's in the rule book.

1255
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: I know it's in the rule book. There's a lot

1256
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: of things that are stupid in the rule you know,

1257
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: it's not they went off side like five times in

1258
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: a row, right, run, Let's not deal with it.

1259
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 4: What do you mean deal with the run? The damn

1260
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 4: play stop jumping off side in the rule book.

1261
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 6: Thanks to be appreciate it. Interesting. I was just reminded

1262
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 6: of the famous footage of Bill Belichick talking to the

1263
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 6: late Marquise Hill and kind of grilling him on the spot.

1264
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 6: A window into what Belichick seem to always do. Where

1265
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 6: what happens if the offense, what happens if the defense

1266
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 6: goes outside and you can tell my key's.

1267
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 3: Hills a little, but the offense goes it's it's first

1268
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: and goal from the six.

1269
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 6: It's a big difference, huge incentive there to to try

1270
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 6: to draw them off side.

1271
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 5: I would also say, though that not to keep picking

1272
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 5: on speed, but the half to distance to the coal

1273
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 5: like it doesn't feel like a lot tangibly like in

1274
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 5: terms of a number, but like when you think about

1275
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 5: the fact that the quarterback, like there's an off there's

1276
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 5: a line and then the quarterbacks under center, so now

1277
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 5: his feet are in the end zone versus not like

1278
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 5: that's it's a bigger difference than.

1279
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 6: Scrab Eldrid here hailed it.

1280
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: I know, Hey, how are you?

1281
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 12: I'm doing right?

1282
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 9: Pop?

1283
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 10: I agree with you man, I date when I feel great.

1284
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: You know this in the right direction going up.

1285
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 9: But I would love a playoff push but death death

1286
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 9: hoping too much.

1287
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: But I'm certainly not going to be upset if they

1288
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 3: just make the playoffs and don't advance in the playoffs,

1289
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 3: I'll be thrilled.

1290
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: I like direction.

1291
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, you'll know it, you'll know it.

1292
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 3: But Evan Evan said it right, you'll know it when

1293
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: you if if May is thrown through it, you know,

1294
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: look to it. Yeah yeah yeah.

1295
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: Other person that is he he backup?

1296
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 9: Or is he gonna be compete well either left left

1297
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 9: cackle or whatever I'm talking about.

1298
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 6: I think yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks Soldred.

1299
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: He can make the team as a backup.

1300
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 5: I don't see it, but I I think that there's everybody.

1301
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 5: I I believe everybody's gonna get a chance at left guard.

1302
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 5: My left guard is We're gonna throw ten names into

1303
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 5: a hat and whichever name comes out is going to

1304
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 5: be the victor. And we have no sacred cows, there's

1305
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 5: no recent draft picks or anything like that that that

1306
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 5: are just going to get it by default.

1307
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 4: Uh. Do I think he'll win the job. No, But

1308
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 4: I think his.

1309
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 5: Name is going to be in that that ring just

1310
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 5: like everybody else's.

1311
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, cool strange getting plenty of run there.

1312
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: Like the SOW.

1313
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 5: I assume Laden Robinson will be heard from Robinson Robinson

1314
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 5: Jared Willis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think what you said it up with Jared Wilson

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Speaker 6: or was that during our our training camp they mixed together?

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Speaker 6: Interesting guy. I just like to see him in the mix.

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Speaker 6: Does he get involved at center or at left guard?

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Speaker 6: And I would guess when we get into camp that,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to be at the

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Speaker 3: start of the season because he's missed some time here

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Speaker 3: in the run up as a rookie. I think Jared

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Speaker 5: Listening to some of the you know, I did the

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Speaker 5: the coaches down in Georgia and then also Duke Mannyweather's

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Speaker 5: He's just gushing about the traits like and about the

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Speaker 5: talent that Jared Wilson has. So to Paul's point, it's

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Speaker 5: a younger prospect. He's only twenty one years old. He

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Speaker 5: only had one year starting at Georgia. Now he's behind

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Speaker 5: if it's gonna be right away, but just based off

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Speaker 16: Past podcast, where we travel down memory lane with the

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Speaker 16: former Patriot great and who better to join us today

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Speaker 16: than Number thirty two CJ. Craig James, the og member

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Speaker 16: of the Pony Express right along with Eric Dickerson absolutely,

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Speaker 16: which we're going to talk about because how can you

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Speaker 16: talk to Craig James without talking about that before.

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Speaker 3: It's Patriots career and it gets me back to high school.

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Speaker 13: Matt.

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Speaker 3: That's great, right, Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: This is goin a privilege.

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Speaker 17: You know, I walk in this stadium and I'm cracking

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Speaker 17: up because I'm back in the eighties, right, And when

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Speaker 17: I walked up to Sullivan Stadium, you know, we didn't

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Speaker 17: have no film room like this, right, weren't even the

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Speaker 17: thought back then.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 16: But Craig, you said you were here last June. Explain that.

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Speaker 16: Why were you here for Tom Brady Day?

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Speaker 17: Well, I got to get the invitation to come in

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Speaker 17: for the Brady celebration, which was just remarkable. But I

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Speaker 17: wanted to see Dante Scarnekia because Scar and I we

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Speaker 17: were back together at SMU. He was here when I

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01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 17: was playing for the Patriots. He was, you know, like

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Speaker 17: a legend. He's been here since before Billy Sullivan bought

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Speaker 17: the team.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 17: Scar's just one of those legendary guys. And I got

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Speaker 17: a chance to speak with him and see him. But

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Speaker 17: what a great night that was. I was so proud

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Speaker 17: to be an alum. What a privilege to be a

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Speaker 17: part of the Patriots Organization. I sent a handwritten note

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Speaker 17: to mister Kraft and just said, man, what an awesome

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Speaker 17: night and a display of the fans. The fans here

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Speaker 17: in New England showed off last year.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. We were really happy with the way that

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Speaker 3: whole night because a lot of people in the organization

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Speaker 3: had a lot of thing, a lot, you know, a

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Speaker 3: lot to do with that. So we felt like that

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Speaker 3: was a really strong night for the entire organization and

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that so many you know, alums came back

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Speaker 3: for that. There was a lot of people from a

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Speaker 3: lot of different eras that took part in that, and

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Speaker 3: I think it was a huge success.

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Speaker 17: Well you know, it's it's like I had a chance

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 17: to see Tony Collins and Doug Flutie and a bunch

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Speaker 17: of my teammates that I had not seen in years.

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Speaker 17: You know, you have to walk up nowadays, forty years

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Speaker 17: later and say, hey, Craig James, see who are you?

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Speaker 16: And I tell you what, Craig, I'm not like you

1444
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 16: don't look a little bit different. You look like Craig James.

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Speaker 16: Maybe so maybe your hair's a little lighter, but that's

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Speaker 16: about it. I was joking with you before we started

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Speaker 16: that Eric could give you ten or fifteen steps. I

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Speaker 16: wonder if there's a half back option play that you know, no,

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Speaker 16: maybe one that you could do, if you know, pitch

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Speaker 16: it out there. I think it could probably still get

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Speaker 16: a first down off of that kind of shit.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 17: I'd be really good with pregame warm up and if

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Speaker 17: somebody hit me, I would cry.

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Speaker 3: That's funny, Like I said, to kick things off.

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Speaker 16: I think people here in New England are somewhat versed

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Speaker 16: on the legend of how it began. But the idea

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Speaker 16: that two kids who went to high school in Texas

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Speaker 16: to the best at their position could be recruited and

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Speaker 16: play for the same college and be so prolific, I mean,

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Speaker 16: that story never gets old, does it. The Pony Express

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Speaker 16: at SMU with you and Eric Dickerson.

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Speaker 17: We've been nearly fifty years friends, we love each other,

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Speaker 17: We're like brothers. And the fact that now we can

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Speaker 17: look back on it and realize what we did was

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Speaker 17: really unique. And someone asked me, the media made a

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Speaker 17: big deal about it. I had won the vincelent Bardi

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Speaker 17: NFL Offensive Player of the Year the year after Eric

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Speaker 17: had been the NFL MVP, and they said, how did

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Speaker 17: two guys go to the same team in Dallas at SMU.

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Speaker 3: How did that happen? I said it, Well, it was Dallas.

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Speaker 17: It was Ron Meyer, head coach at the time, a

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Speaker 17: lot of energy. But it just you know, as Eric

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Speaker 17: and I say, the Pony Express, we were better to get.

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Speaker 6: This is my favorite game. I was at this game

1476
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Speaker 6: as a fan. I was right in back of your bench.

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Speaker 6: Chargers fans were talking a lot. They went fourteen and

1478
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Speaker 6: two MVP with Danian Tomlinson kind of a slog throughout

1479
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Speaker 6: the game, but you guys kept it close enough to

1480
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Speaker 6: set up this second or last drive here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that Brady let him on. Yeah, this was. This

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Speaker 1: is a really good football team San Diego.

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Speaker 12: I mean we you know, we we had a decent year.

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Speaker 12: They were they had an exceptional year. And their defense

1485
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 12: was extremely talented. Their front was really physical, really good rushers.

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Speaker 12: You know, this was I mean Merriman was you know,

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Speaker 12: that was his lights out. Yeah, that was the height

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01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 12: of his career there. And I don't know how many

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01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 12: times Tom got hit in this game, but it was

1490
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 12: a lot, you know, And and it wasn't that's no

1491
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 12: slight on on our guys, and just you know, they

1492
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Speaker 12: they were I mean you can see them, they're coming,

1493
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 12: and they brought it all day. And difficult team to

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Speaker 12: play and we're on the road, loud stadium, you know.

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Speaker 12: But I think this is this says a lot about him.

1496
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 12: He's been hit, you know, a number of times already.

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Speaker 12: It's the fourth quarter, and he knows he's gonna get

1498
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Speaker 12: hit right now, you know, but he hangs in there

1499
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Speaker 12: and waits all the way until Gaffney, you know, is

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Speaker 12: gonna clear, and then you know, there he goes. He's

1501
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Speaker 12: getting bumped as he's finishing his throw. And again another

1502
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Speaker 12: big play to kind of get us moving here late

1503
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Speaker 12: in the game.

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Speaker 1: And this was this is a very gritty performance.

1505
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Speaker 3: The ability to move in the pocket while never taking

1506
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Speaker 3: his eyes off off the coverage, off the receivers is

1507
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Speaker 3: I just think different than than most of the other guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna tell you he's the only

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Speaker 3: guy that does it, but it's amazing how he's able

1510
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Speaker 3: to move around and by time without taking his eyes

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Speaker 3: off the field.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and this is a really good example too, of

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Speaker 12: you know, he sees the owners going over here, so

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Speaker 12: it's some version of man a man coverage. And he

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Speaker 12: if you watch his head, he peeks over here just

1516
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Speaker 12: to check the release of the of the of the

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Speaker 12: tight end.

1518
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Speaker 1: I think this is Watson. He peeks over here.

1519
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Speaker 12: And if Watson would have got a really clean release

1520
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Speaker 12: on this, he would have given him the ball.

1521
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Speaker 1: But look how fast his head's already. He's already made

1522
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Speaker 1: that decision.

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Speaker 12: He processed information at such a rate of speed that

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Speaker 12: you know, it allowed you to as an offensive game

1525
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Speaker 12: planner or play caller, to put a lot of people

1526
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Speaker 12: into the pattern because he could digest that type.

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Speaker 1: Of information quickly. And here he is at the end.

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Speaker 12: You know again a lot of little things right, you know,

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Speaker 12: it's second and one, so we actually can run the ball.

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01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 12: So he does a great job here. He didn't get

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01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 12: enough credit for this. It was a great playfaker, really

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 12: good ball fake, you know, to the back and you

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01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 12: see all the you know, everybody's stepping up. We're trying

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01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 12: to get everybody in the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: Well that has a lot to do with Tom in

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01:07:59,240 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: the back too.

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01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 12: And here's Tom, and you know you can see almost

1538
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 12: everybody's you know, outside of the end zone except the

1539
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 12: one guy he wants to throw it to again, another

1540
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 12: subtle move in the pocket. You know, we don't convert

1541
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 12: this if he doesn't move in the pocket and then

1542
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,959
Speaker 12: make a good throw on the run. But great execution

1543
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 12: under pressure and like always already already knowing we got.

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01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: To go for two.

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01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 12: So he's he's moved on from this player already in

1546
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 12: Rachet's hardly fucked the ball yet, so you know it

1547
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 12: just it's just such a great example of how quickly

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 12: he was thinking through each situation in the.

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Speaker 3: Game and now great moments in history.

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Speaker 5: I think, is that tub that's in now, it's got

1551
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 5: a weigh fifteen pounds.

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Speaker 6: It's enormous. Did you see that?

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01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: That's like a that's like an ice cream strikes.

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01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 3: Okay, I I was trying to cut that off at

1555
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 3: the path. I knew that was coming, So I was

1556
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 3: going with the mean, the giant jug of ice cream challenge,

1557
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 3: you know, like how much can you finish?

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 6: Could you finish the whole thing?

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01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: Just just know that yes, the answer is a court no.

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01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 3: If I wanted to, yeah, I could. I could handle

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01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: a pint if I wanted to the answer is, yes,

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 3: I have.

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01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 4: To cut down on my ice cream because it binds

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 4: me up.

1565
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, you came very close. You came very close there.

1566
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 3: Ice cream binds him up.

1567
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love ice cream. I have to be careful.

1568
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 6: It's one of my favorite things.

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01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 13: You are full of it, ice cream and opioids.

1570
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 4: I have to be careful.

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 6: Yes, theods get ye, I don't respond well to opioids.

1572
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 3: Joke about a beautiful.

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01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 16: That's another great moment from all Right.

1574
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 6: We're back here on Patriots. Unfiltered emails are rolling in.

1575
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 6: You can read some of them.

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Speaker 3: I suppose, Yeah, why don't you.

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Speaker 6: I'm hosting, so I get to I definitely.

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Speaker 7: Gloss over we are.

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Speaker 6: That was a good thread line. I love I love

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01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 6: the ice.

1581
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: Cream that work.

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Speaker 3: It's a great it's a great line. And I'm not

1583
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 3: saying that you're wrong for being so amused. I'm just

1584
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: so it's a freadism, like right as you said it.

1585
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 3: Evan just said that's such a.

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Speaker 5: Threadline, and he's thread line like he just like says

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 5: the quiet part out loud like maybe ice cream effect.

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Speaker 4: No, you don't need to talk about it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know where that came from uh. We got

1590
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 6: an email though from Philippe or sorry, Fiddy Bay and

1591
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Speaker 6: Rio de Gennaro Brasian. Good job to Paul and Evan

1592
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 6: for holding down the Ford on Tuesday. I really enjoyed

1593
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 6: the show. I've been waiting for this quieter period in

1594
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 6: the news cycle to bring up a question that's been

1595
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 6: on my mind for a while. It concerns a point

1596
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 6: that comes up repeatedly on p you the idea we

1597
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 6: need to wait two or three years to know if

1598
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 6: the draft class is a good one. In my view,

1599
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 6: after two or three years we find out if the

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01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 6: player is good, and that's not necessarily the same as

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01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 6: knowing if the draft pick was valuable. The true value

1602
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 6: of the draft pick lies in the player's contributions during

1603
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 6: the years he's still on an affordable rookie contract. If

1604
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 6: the player becomes a regular contributor after two to three years,

1605
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 6: the main advantage is the team's exclusive negotiating rights, which,

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01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 6: considering the current level of competition and player movement, is

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01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 6: a modest benefit at best. Would love to hear your

1608
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 6: thoughts on it. You guys still feel pretty strongly about that.

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01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 6: Takes a few years to really assess the draft class.

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01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 6: I know Sony Michelle is a great example of a

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 6: first round pick who was part of a Super Bowl

1612
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 6: winning team and scored some touchdowns and wrote to that

1613
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 6: Super Bowl, but ultimately did probably live up to the

1614
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 6: value of a first round pick. But you got a

1615
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Speaker 6: Super Bowl that he played a part of. That's where

1616
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 6: my head always goes to when we talk about these

1617
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 6: arguments about draft value and those kinds of things.

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Speaker 4: I understand what he's saying.

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Speaker 5: There's a difference between grating the draft in the moment

1620
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 5: based off of the value the pick and you know

1621
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 5: where the player was picked versus maybe a consensus ranking

1622
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 5: of where the player is supposed to be picked or

1623
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 5: something along those lines. I think are two different things,

1624
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 5: like how you actually cash in the asset of the

1625
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 5: draft pick versus what the player pans out to be

1626
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 5: or two separate things. To me, it's two separate conversations.

1627
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 5: I actually disagree though, with the premise that it takes

1628
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 5: two to three years to evaluate a draft, because at

1629
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 5: least in my experience, I think you know pretty early

1630
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 5: on if a guy's got it or not. Like I

1631
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 5: don't think it takes very long even in training camp

1632
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 5: to realize Christian Gonzales is a dude, Like that guy

1633
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 5: moves differently than the other people that are out here

1634
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 5: on the field with him. Whereas in my early years

1635
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 5: in the Beat, Sony Michelle Nikhil Harry, like there wasn't

1636
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 5: the juice that you would expect to see out of an.

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Speaker 4: Early draft pick.

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Speaker 5: And I remember Julian Edelman even talking about it a

1639
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 5: little bit, and no one he didn't name names, but

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01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 5: just inferring from what he was talking about, I kind

1641
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 5: of feel like he was talking about Nikhil Harry when

1642
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 5: he was just like this guy was a first round pick,

1643
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,520
Speaker 5: Like you just didn't really see it. So I understand

1644
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 5: that it can go that way where in his rookie

1645
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 5: year he has a really good rookie year, and like

1646
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 5: maybe mac Jones would be an example of this, since

1647
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 5: we were just talking about him, where good rookie year

1648
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 5: and then it fell off after that. So and therefore

1649
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 5: it takes two to three years to evaluate the pick fully.

1650
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 5: But I think early on in a lot of NFL players' careers,

1651
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 5: you can tell whether or not the guy's got the

1652
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 5: talent to be at this level.

1653
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 6: Too much to feel a little positive about Travon Henderson

1654
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 6: based on those observations for a few ota practices with

1655
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 6: no pads and just kind of watching him run.

1656
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he can clearly run. But yeah, we haven't

1657
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 3: seen anything. But I would agree with Evans's overall assessment.

1658
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 3: So I'll let that analysis, you know, the whole like

1659
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 3: two three year whatever. Yeah, I mean, do you guys

1660
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: get off to slow starts and become really good players? Sure,

1661
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 3: and vice versa. These guys that make contributions right away

1662
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 3: and then they sort of peter out. But what I

1663
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 3: what I get annoyed with sometimes is to me, the

1664
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 3: lack of differentiation between a guy who contributes or you know,

1665
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 3: plays in that being considered a good pick. Like, sometimes

1666
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 3: guys get opportunities to play and they fill a role

1667
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 3: because they're the best a team has at a particular role,

1668
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 3: and he plays and it's considered a good pick. Well,

1669
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 3: was he any good or was he just sort of

1670
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 3: fill in space? You know? And I'm not necessarily thinking

1671
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 3: about Patriots right now. I'm just saying in general, with

1672
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 3: draft picks, I think I think too often someone looks

1673
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 3: down and says, well, so and so started, uh, you know,

1674
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 3: thirty two games the last two years for his teams.

1675
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 3: That's a good pick, yeah, but was that was he?

1676
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 3: Where was he in terms of the league? And then

1677
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: the second part of that is like we'll go back

1678
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 3: to Nikkill Harry Nikill, Harry was not a good player

1679
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 3: for the Patriots, right, So it's a bad pick. I

1680
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 3: do think it's also part of his story that so

1681
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 3: many really good wide receivers were taken right after him.

1682
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 3: That makes it an even worse pick. You know, I

1683
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 3: think the email it brought up an interesting point. When

1684
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 3: you look at draft picks. It's not just like, well,

1685
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 3: did you pick a good player that's first and foremost,

1686
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,719
Speaker 3: but what went around him? You know, did they miss

1687
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 3: out on really good players that they could have had,

1688
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 3: because that makes it much worse. Now, some drafts are

1689
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 3: just not all that good. We went down one of

1690
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 3: those first rounds a couple you know, a couple of

1691
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 3: months ago. I remember we were reading off all the

1692
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 3: first round picks and like literally there was like five

1693
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 3: guys that were any good in the whole first round.

1694
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 3: So if you miss one there, yeah you didn't get

1695
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 3: one of the five, But a lot of other teams

1696
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 3: didn't get because this wasn't a lot of talent that year.

1697
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 3: But I do you know, like you brought up the

1698
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 3: Sony Michelle thing. I'm sorry if I'm a little obnoxious.

1699
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to Alex's. Would you say I

1700
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 3: wasn't arrogant? I as a fan, it wasn't it, So

1701
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 3: this is probably going to be arrogant. Mike Dussau could

1702
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 3: have been the running back and they would have won

1703
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 3: that Super Bowl. Okay, Sony Michelle did nothing other than

1704
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: carry the ball into the end zone a few times.

1705
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 3: Someone else would have done that. Some other NFL running back,

1706
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 3: Ben Jarvis green Ellis could have been the running back

1707
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 3: and they would have won the Super Bowl. That's not

1708
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 3: why they won the Super Bowl. They didn't win it

1709
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 3: because Sony Michelle was just so special as a running back.

1710
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 3: You know, there was no difference when he was out

1711
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 3: there than Rexburg had, you know. So the fact that

1712
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 3: the injuries ended up shortening his career, to me, it

1713
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 3: wasn't a good pick. He wasn't a great player. I

1714
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 3: agree with Evan. There was no juice there.

1715
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, the dynamic ability didn't translate from and maybe it

1716
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 5: was injuries and it was the knees and all that,

1717
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 5: but he was a Sonny Michelle was touted as like

1718
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 5: an Alvin Kamara type, like a dynamic college running back,

1719
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 5: and he just didn't have that kind of explosiveness or

1720
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 5: juice at the NFL level really from the beginning, and.

1721
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 3: Full disclosure, I'll say I missed on it because I

1722
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 3: thought I thought there was stuff there. I thought he

1723
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 3: had some juice there and he didn't.

1724
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially, another angle of it is to look at

1725
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 6: it within the context of where the Patriots team was

1726
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 6: at that point where they were desperate for good draft picks,

1727
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 6: and those you know, seventeen eighteen nineteen, those drafts did.

1728
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 3: Really not much and not enough to help them well.

1729
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 3: And he contributed. He wasn't like I wouldn't put him

1730
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 3: in like Nikhil Harry level of a bust. But I

1731
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 3: don't think that was a great first round pick.

1732
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 5: In his defense, I would say, though, like they Dean

1733
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 5: Lewis had just moved on to Tennessee, they needed a

1734
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 5: volume back, and they were at a point in time

1735
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 5: with their with the where they were with Brady and

1736
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 5: Belichick that they had luxury picks, like they had the

1737
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 5: ability at the end of the first round to just

1738
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 5: take a draft pick that wasn't necessarily a pillar of

1739
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 5: the franchise moving forward because that's where they were. So

1740
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 5: they also had two first round picks that year. Yeah,

1741
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 5: so like it was the second first round pick with

1742
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 5: Sony Michelle. So it's like at the point in time

1743
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 5: I if I was evaluating that in that prison, like

1744
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 5: to the emailer's point of evaluating what like the worth

1745
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 5: of the pick versus like how the player panned out.

1746
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 5: I don't think it was a bad pick in that sense,

1747
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 5: because they needed a running back. They needed to fill

1748
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 5: a void. They needed to fill have somebody that was

1749
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 5: going to eat up carries in their backfield after they

1750
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 5: lost Dion Lewis, and they got a guy that did

1751
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 5: it at a semi Now, Paul's right, like anybody could

1752
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 5: have done it, but they needed somebody and he did it.

1753
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 6: And he was the guy.

1754
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, so in that respect, Johnny Bravo, Yeah, quick email, look.

1755
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 3: That one up, Johnny Bravo, look that one up.

1756
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 6: This is from a cartoon network.

1757
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 3: What do you think, pretty bunch?

1758
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 6: This one's from Georgia. Yeah, I was like, what email

1759
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 6: here from Georgia in Maryland? Got to bring it up.

1760
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 6: Eighty five My favorite experience happened on December twenty second,

1761
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty five, Patriots versus Bengals. I was twelve. It

1762
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 6: was my first game, I think, and you're correct. Robert

1763
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 6: Weathers scored on touchdown on fourth and one from the

1764
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 6: fifty and that sealed it and threw a fifty yard

1765
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 6: TV to Stanley Morgan. The energy and crave was in

1766
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 6: the crowd was insane. They pulled down the goalposts and

1767
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 6: carried it out of the stadium and actually got shocked.

1768
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 6: Great game to bring up. Yeah, were you were you

1769
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 6: there at that game?

1770
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 3: No, I do remember everything he's talking about though.

1771
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 6: But it's another and another reason why I'm kind of

1772
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 6: diving on eighty five. Evan's you know, talked about it.

1773
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 6: You know, they had a chance to win the division

1774
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 6: in Miami. They went down to Miami, tough back and

1775
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 6: forth game, they had a chance to win, they couldn't

1776
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 6: get a stop, they ended up losing, and then they

1777
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 6: came back and last week of the season, they've got

1778
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 6: to beat Cincinnati at home to make the playoffs. And

1779
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 6: a lot of the players that I talked to from

1780
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 6: that season said that was, you know, one of the

1781
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 6: best moments of the season of course, the best being

1782
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,839
Speaker 6: beaten the Dolphins a few weeks later in the playoffs.

1783
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 6: But but great email, George. I'm sure that was a

1784
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 6: great atmosphere to be around. Let's jump back to the phone.

1785
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 6: So though, we got Patty from Agawam. Hey Patty, Hey,

1786
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 6: good afternoon, everyone, Good afternoon.

1787
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 9: I wanted to get your guys opinion on how many

1788
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 9: games do you think they win this year. I know

1789
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 9: what the controversy he'll take, especially after Christians call, but

1790
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 9: and I'm gonna throw a broad range out there. I

1791
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 9: think seven to ten wins is reasonable. Evan I called

1792
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 9: in last week on and catch twenty two instead. I'd

1793
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 9: be happy with seven wins as long as they don't

1794
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 9: start out seven or not when just tank the rest

1795
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 9: of the year. But I could see them hovering around

1796
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 9: five hundred. I'man realistically. I just look at what they

1797
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 9: had a talent last year, the lack of coaching experience, coaching,

1798
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 9: I mean, and just juxtapose that to this year's coaching staff.

1799
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 9: How they're just they just got so much a good experience. Brabel,

1800
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 9: you know we've seen in Tennessee. He knows, he knows

1801
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 9: how to coach, he knows what he's doing. He's a

1802
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 9: good situational coach too, So I think double in the

1803
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 9: win total over the last two years. You know, I'd

1804
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 9: be happy with and I think they could win ten games,

1805
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 9: but I'd be happy with seven as long as it

1806
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 9: looks good down the stretch. And I want to see

1807
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 9: what you guys think. You know, what sort of brain

1808
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 9: do you think they win this year?

1809
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 10: That's all I got.

1810
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 6: I'll take it out there, Guys's Patty.

1811
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1812
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 6: Sure, it's like the bled Cell thing. Second season playing

1813
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 6: well down the end, wasn't the greatest year.

1814
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 3: Second season, first season, ten wins, bro ten wins that

1815
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,879
Speaker 3: we're helping for fact Street. You can come to eleven's

1816
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 3: locker nineties.

1817
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 7: As a boy like that.

1818
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 3: That's a Teddy Blueski line. Get your fact straight when

1819
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 3: you come to fifty four's locker, yelled at.

1820
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 4: Yelled at.

1821
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 3: Uh.

1822
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 6: Email here from Travis and West Virginia. Deuce I wrote

1823
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 6: Paul on Tuesday and told him he was a better

1824
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 6: host than you, so because he didn't read my email

1825
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 6: and changing my mind, you're better. But then again, here

1826
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 6: we are forty minutes into the show and you haven't

1827
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 6: taken a single call. I read a single email. You're

1828
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 6: when I was a boys stories aren't that interesting? Thanks

1829
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 6: Travis and Rustgia. I just like to say my defense,

1830
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 6: we usually don't take calls and emails. In the first

1831
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 6: forty minutes, I.

1832
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 4: Found you were kids stories very interesting.

1833
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 3: I found your stories boring his help now, I found

1834
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 3: I found that interesting. I don't like to take calls

1835
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 3: at least for at least a half hour.

1836
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, you set the table is.

1837
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 3: If there's like an email that's very topical to something

1838
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 3: that we happen to be discussing at the time, then

1839
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 3: I'll throw that in there. And I purposely didn't read

1840
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 3: that email for obvious reasons because it.

1841
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 6: Was nice, because he was fair.

1842
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 7: The emails are being forward.

1843
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 6: To you right right, Yes, well they were. I could

1844
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 6: have warned any time I wanted we had.

1845
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 13: Don't blame this on me.

1846
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 3: Don't blame this on the What the hell?

1847
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 8: I wasn't blaming you necessarily, I was blaming Fred not

1848
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 8: being here with the surface it is.

1849
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 3: It is a challenge, and I will admit that I

1850
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 3: make fun of Fred for it all the time.

1851
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 7: Also, Fred's space is out and just will be reading.

1852
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: It's hard to read the emails and pay attention to

1853
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 3: what's being discussed.

1854
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 7: It says all the time, I need someone to read them.

1855
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 6: For you to talk amongst yourself.

1856
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 5: This is why we don't do a lot of emails

1857
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 5: on Catch twenty two because it's only the two of us.

1858
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 4: So on top of the fact that I.

1859
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 3: Would have to plus that would cut into your analysis.

1860
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean, don't break down two hours straight,

1861
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 5: no breaks of just.

1862
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 6: Along those lines, Evan I Nate emailed in and it's ps.

1863
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 6: He just said tell ev and I apologize for not

1864
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 6: calling into the latest Catch twenty two.

1865
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 5: I forgive you please, like, don't get thrown out of

1866
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 5: school because.

1867
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 7: Somewhere vacation.

1868
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's true.

1869
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 7: Nate was on the line, but he hung up.

1870
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 5: I'm genuinely worried for that. Nate's teachers one of these

1871
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 5: days gonna be like.

1872
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 6: They get off the phone.

1873
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 7: Just has like an air he has like an air pod.

1874
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 8: Like when I was a kid who had the wire headphone,

1875
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 8: so I would like wire the headphone through my sleeve.

1876
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 5: And like you put the hoodie up and wire the

1877
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 5: headphone through the hoodie.

1878
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 7: I didn't want to be disrespectful. I didn't wear my

1879
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 7: hood in class. But I did. I was. I guess

1880
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 7: I was still being disrespectful.

1881
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I did you.

1882
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 7: Just like this is very like you would think.

1883
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 6: I'm listening to the teacher kids.

1884
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 5: You put the earbuds in, and then you put the

1885
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 5: hoodie up, and then they don't know that you have

1886
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 5: headphones in.

1887
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 6: Okay, I know hoodies nobody.

1888
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 4: I know you don't know how.

1889
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 6: Well, let me read the rest of this email from Nate,

1890
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 6: because I think it's right in line with what you

1891
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 6: guys are talking about. He said, I apologize for not

1892
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 6: calling in to PU. I originally did Collin, but I'm

1893
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 6: in a movie theater and the movie is starting, so

1894
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 6: I'm taking the silent option of talking to you guys,

1895
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 6: and that's an email.

1896
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 3: My question is a great movie? Yeah?

1897
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 6: Tell us what you're seeing, Nat, I hope it's good.

1898
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 6: Hopefully I'm getting this in before the previews end. If

1899
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 6: it's been forty minutes, you probably still enough time. My

1900
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 6: question for you guys is do you think Terrell Jennings

1901
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 6: will have an opportunity to fight for a roster spot,

1902
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 6: either on the fifty three or the practice squad. Yes,

1903
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 6: I know he's someone who has not been mentioned by you.

1904
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,560
Speaker 6: Guys yet or often. Do you think he has a

1905
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 6: chance of fight? I mean, we will. I liked him.

1906
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 6: I just like Tew we looked. I thought he ran hard.

1907
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 6: I think he's a little buried right now. I was

1908
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 6: thinking about the running backs, going back to your question Paul,

1909
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 6: about what positions you feel good about or what do

1910
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 6: you feel concerned about, And I wasn't quite like the

1911
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 6: running back group jumped to my mind, but I wasn't

1912
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,759
Speaker 6: quite ready to like put them in the forefront because

1913
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 6: I do have like can Remondre bounce back and fix

1914
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 6: some of the ball security stuff. But you know, if

1915
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 6: he does and he gets back to the player that

1916
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 6: he you know, has on flashes of being over at

1917
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 6: this early years of his career. You've got Travon Henderson

1918
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 6: who I talked about. We're all excited about him, and

1919
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 6: I just think Antonio Gibson's that perfect like third back.

1920
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 6: You know, he's a professional. He's probably not gonna, you know,

1921
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 6: winter lose any games, but I think he's he's you know,

1922
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 6: can do both things and can fill in if one

1923
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 6: of those guys got hurt. So I'm a little bit

1924
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 6: excited about the running back position. But I don't know

1925
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 6: about Terrell Jennings. It might it might take an injury

1926
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 6: for him, as much as I liked watching him play

1927
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 6: last summer.

1928
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, my boy Land Larrison is going to

1929
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:28,959
Speaker 4: have Larrison.

1930
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 6: There you go.

1931
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 5: But I agree with your you know now, this as

1932
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 5: a hole on the running backs now to be on

1933
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 5: maybe on Paul side of the straight a little bit.

1934
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 5: It does worry me that they're going to be too

1935
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 5: running back centric. I don't want the whole offense to

1936
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 5: be run the ball, run the ball and throw swing

1937
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 5: passes to Travon Henderson. But on paper, that's probably one

1938
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 5: of the better position groups that they have on the roster.

1939
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 5: It's the strength of the team. Aaron Andres is still

1940
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 5: a good player. I know he had the issues last

1941
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 5: year with ball security and things like that, but if

1942
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 5: they clean up the blocking in front of him, I

1943
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 5: think he's going to be a good player for them.

1944
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 5: And then Trey Von Henderson I think has a chance

1945
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 5: to be a really good player for them. So that

1946
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 5: tandem has a really good shot at being a great

1947
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 5: tandem together and really complimentary and different skill sets that

1948
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 5: fit together really nicely.

1949
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 4: So I would say.

1950
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 5: That's probably the best position group they have on offense

1951
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 5: right now.

1952
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 8: My question for you guys about that. I feel like

1953
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 8: I didn't watch much of Gibson when he was with

1954
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 8: the Commanders, but when he came in, I remember reading

1955
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 8: like great pass catching back, and I feel like we

1956
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 8: didn't really utilize him in that way. It's a great question,

1957
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 8: very much, if not at all last year. So do

1958
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 8: you think there's even room for improvement there?

1959
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 6: Well, I just I wonder if it's going back, is

1960
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 6: Josh still interested in having clearly defined roles of this

1961
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 6: is our early down horse who's gonna, you know, get

1962
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 6: the tough yards, and then we have a receiving back

1963
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 6: and that's what we all assumed. Like to your point,

1964
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 6: I think he played receiver in college. Yep, you know,

1965
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,719
Speaker 6: so that was will we assume. But they've gotten away

1966
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 6: from that, and I think rightly so, Like I like

1967
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 6: just the idea of being able to throw it back

1968
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 6: out there and it's not, you know, so obvious, but

1969
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 6: even James White excelled in that role and showed that

1970
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 6: even if it's obvious that you're the passing down back

1971
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 6: and that they're going to throw, you can still be

1972
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 6: good enough to I.

1973
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 3: Think it's about the system. And I think McDaniels wants

1974
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 3: to throw the ball to the backs. He's always had that,

1975
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 3: you know, whether it was Veren or White or you know,

1976
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 3: going back to Kevin Falk, you know, like Danny Woodhead

1977
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 3: that they want to throw the ball to the backs.

1978
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 3: And I don't think last year. I don't know if

1979
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 3: it was because Drake May isn't necessarily a guy who's

1980
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 3: looking to check it down and throw it to the backs,

1981
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 3: or if Alex Van Pelt's system didn't call for it

1982
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 3: as much. Yeah, I mean, we can make a debate

1983
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 3: about that. I don't you know. I'm not going to

1984
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 3: tell you you're right or wrong either way. What I

1985
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 3: would wonder about is is it something that Drake May

1986
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 3: likes or wants to do, because I know it's something

1987
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels wants to do.

1988
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we saw it a little bit in the spring.

1989
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 3: We saw a good, good amount.

1990
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 5: So maybe there's more of that now with mobile quarterbacks

1991
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 5: like you are your own checkdown a lot of the time.

1992
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 5: So I think that comes into play where a guy

1993
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 5: like Drake May might want to just run instead of

1994
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 5: checking it down to the running back because he kind

1995
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 5: of feels like I can make more yards if I

1996
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 5: just take off then versus throwing it to a running

1997
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 5: back for a five yard checkdown. So you see that

1998
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 5: a lot with that style of quarterback that there isn't

1999
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 5: as many true checkdowns over the course of his season,

2000
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 5: Like I would imagine the amount of times that Josh

2001
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 5: Allen has checked the ball down is probably pretty low.

2002
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 5: Like he's either looking to throw the ball fifty yards

2003
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 5: down the field or he's looking to scramble or extend

2004
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 5: the play or something like that, and he's not looking

2005
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 5: to just take that profit underneath the defense for four

2006
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 5: or five yards like Brady would because he can move.

2007
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of that element of it too.

2008
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 5: But we saw it in the spring where they were

2009
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 5: hunting matchups with Travon Henderson specifically, whether it's flexing him

2010
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 5: out or out of the backfield and getting him in

2011
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 5: linebackers in space and trying to just eat on that.

2012
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 5: So that's different than like checking the ball down. That's

2013
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 5: like a part of the play, you know, first read

2014
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 5: type of thing.

2015
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just check downs. McDaniels wants to get

2016
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 3: the ball by design to the backs and one of the.

2017
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 8: Most memorable plays Drake made was a throw to Ramandre

2018
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 8: Stevenson this spring.

2019
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean it's a it's a big part

2020
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 5: of that offense. It's not necessarily as big of a

2021
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 5: part as the Alex Van Pelter that West Coast offense.

2022
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 5: So I think there's a chance that that volume is

2023
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 5: up a lot this year.

2024
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 6: Good question from Brandon here, Brandon Demain maybe spark some discussion.

2025
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 6: Tom Brady was never recognized for having a great arm

2026
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 6: or any other physical tools, but I always thought when

2027
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 6: watching him he had a top ten maybe even five

2028
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 6: to seven arm, especially during the second half of the Dynasty.

2029
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 6: Watching Brady throw, he could rip at sixty yards and

2030
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 6: put the ball on a line into tight windows. Sure,

2031
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 6: a lot of a lot was his mechanics, but he

2032
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 6: had underrated armstring. Since Brady left, we have had a

2033
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 6: broken down Cam Newton, mac Jones and Bailey's appeat. None

2034
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 6: of them could really well with their arm talent. When

2035
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 6: we drafted May I recall many folks raising him for

2036
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 6: his arm, not just the mobility and ability to throw

2037
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 6: on the move off platform. However, since watching him last year,

2038
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 6: I see someone who was more middle of the league

2039
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 6: when it comes to arm talent and the ability to

2040
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 6: zip the ball into tight windows. What do you all think?

2041
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 6: Do you see him as a guy with a top

2042
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 6: ten or five or seven arm talent strength? Is he

2043
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 6: in the middle of the league as I think? Is

2044
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 6: he bottom fifteen. I'm actually a big fan and believe

2045
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 6: in him as our starting future quarterback. I'm just questioning

2046
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 6: what I've heard against what I've seen in regards to

2047
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 6: his arm. Very interested to hear your thoughts.

2048
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 3: High end arm talent now I disagree on both counts.

2049
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 3: I think Brady answered the league not having being considered

2050
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 3: to have a great arm, and everybody immediately said his

2051
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 3: arm talent was undersold immediately. That was an immediate reaction

2052
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 3: to him.

2053
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 6: You've said that about your reaction to him in training.

2054
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 3: Camp first first training camp, and a lot of people

2055
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 3: that wasn't just because it was my observation. I mean

2056
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 3: a lot of people said this, he throws the ball fine,

2057
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 3: and Drake may can absolutely zip it into tight windows downfield.

2058
01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 3: I agree with Evan, would you say top five high end?

2059
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 5: I don't know if he has like Josh Allen Jordan

2060
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 5: Love level where like where those guys like can throw

2061
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 5: it like eighty yards Like, I don't know if he's

2062
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 5: got that kind of power in his arm, but I

2063
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 5: this is a.

2064
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 3: Sixty yard in a line thing. Every guy in the

2065
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 3: league can do that, Like maybe except for mac Jones,

2066
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 3: but everybody can throw the ball. Everybody in the NFL

2067
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 3: can throw the ball a long way on a line,

2068
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 3: like they have just ridiculous talent. Can you do it

2069
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 3: in a tight window? Can you?

2070
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:30,839
Speaker 4: You know, can some of those.

2071
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 5: She was thrown at Kendrick Born last year on the

2072
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 5: backside or just like fitted into a key hole like

2073
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 5: that's if that's not a tight window throw.

2074
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 3: That's that's what changes them young thing with with well

2075
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 3: just about the accuracy. They're little like little flips to

2076
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 3: the to the flat, you know, West Coast staple Evan

2077
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 3: could probably break it down for twenty five minutes, but

2078
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 3: you know how bore you please, Belichick is breaking it

2079
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,560
Speaker 3: down for us. This is like way back in the

2080
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 3: day he used to have the media in for film sessions,

2081
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 3: and he's showing Roger Craig leak out into the flat

2082
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 3: on a little timing west you know, third and three,

2083
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 3: you know, a snap, a little half roll. Throwers on

2084
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 3: the run and it's right on the outside shoulder, so

2085
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 3: Craig is catching Montana's pass while turning upfield, getting the

2086
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 3: first down by like a yard. Then they show the

2087
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 3: same play with Steve Young and that throws a little

2088
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 3: bit more to the middle of the frame to the backside,

2089
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 3: causes him to maybe break stride a little bit. Linebacker

2090
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 3: comes over and makes the tackle, and Bill says, that

2091
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,520
Speaker 3: was the difference between Steve Young and Joe Montana.

2092
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 4: That's it just that.

2093
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 3: They're both Hall of Fame quarterbacks, so it's not like

2094
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 3: one of them stunk. But that was the difference. Is

2095
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 3: the consistent ability to put the ball exactly where it

2096
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 3: needed to be. That's what Tom Brady did elite arm talent.

2097
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 6: When Brady would talk about that of like where he's

2098
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 6: trying to put the ball, it's I mean, it's exactly

2099
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 6: like that. You don't realize how accurate these guys are,

2100
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 6: and on the run and with chaos and.

2101
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 3: From a velocity standpoint and you know, a power standpoint,

2102
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 3: all of that stuff. He was definitely top end, top

2103
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 3: of the league, and he was under sold coming out

2104
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 3: of college, but that went away quickly when people saw

2105
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 3: him actually play.

2106
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 5: I'd say This is another semantics argument, but I think

2107
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 5: there's a difference between arm talent and power, yes, and

2108
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 5: so like I separate those two things than anyone else.

2109
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 5: So like, arm talent to me is is like how

2110
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 5: many pitches you have, Like can you put touch on

2111
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 5: the ball, can you drive the ball? Can you drop

2112
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 5: it in the bucket? Can you you know, throw a

2113
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 5: wheel route? And you can just throw those pillowy, feathery

2114
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 5: passes right over the shoulder like that. Brady had that

2115
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 5: in spades, Like he could make any kind of throw

2116
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 5: no matter what you needed, what it needed, whether it

2117
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,839
Speaker 5: was air under it, whether it's velocity, straight line, whatever,

2118
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 5: you could do any of that.

2119
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 4: There's a difference between that and Joe.

2120
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 5: Milton was just gonna say, Joe Milton could throw the

2121
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 5: ball one hundred and fifty yards, but he can't throw

2122
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 5: it five right, So like that, arm talent, in my opinion,

2123
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 5: is the ability to shift between those two gears, like

2124
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 5: like knowing exactly how much weight to put on the ball,

2125
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 5: how much power to put on the on the throw,

2126
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 5: Like if a guy's standing five yards away from you, you

2127
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 5: don't want to throw it one hundred miles an hour

2128
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 5: at his face, you want to give him a nice

2129
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 5: soft throw, and Brady was really good at that. I

2130
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 5: actually think Drake May has some of that ability, where

2131
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 5: like he has some of that tear drop you know,

2132
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 5: drop the ball and the and the bucket on a

2133
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 5: go route, but he also has that ability to throw

2134
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 5: it through a keyhole. And I think those two things

2135
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 5: are are very different. But curious, Like, that's a curious

2136
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 5: email about like thinking Drake May's arm talent's middling, because

2137
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 5: I don't see that. I see somebody that has above

2138
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 5: average to really go all the rest.

2139
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 3: Of the stuff. You could you could question, you know,

2140
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 3: based on what you saw in you know one. You know,

2141
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 3: we heard all of these different things. But I think

2142
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 3: that came as advertised. The arm talent came as advertised.

2143
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 3: I agree with that.

2144
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 6: F Yeah, you guys are waiting for it. You knew

2145
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 6: there'd be a Jaws email that I read, of course, right.

2146
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,799
Speaker 6: This is Rob in San Diego via Connecticut. Hi.

2147
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 3: All.

2148
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 6: A while back I wrote in about hiring a lawyer

2149
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 6: for a traffic ticket after hearing about Paul's experience. Just

2150
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 6: want to follow up and say it worked. The ticket

2151
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 6: was completely thrown out, no fine, no traffic school. Nothing

2152
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 6: shout out to you, Paul there now for my way

2153
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 6: too early? Oh wait, sorry, I don't want to skip

2154
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 6: the Jaws question, Jows question. There are Jaws events where

2155
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 6: projection screen is set up in the water and people

2156
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 6: watch it from boats floats at night. Is that something

2157
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 6: you'd ever do? No, I would do it.

2158
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 4: But I don't not really know.

2159
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 3: But I have long I have seen those, but no,

2160
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 3: I do not. I do not have any interest in

2161
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 3: watching Jaws like from a float inside the water.

2162
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 6: Now, if Evan could and credit to Evan, who's really

2163
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 6: gone a long way? I mean, when I got my lego,

2164
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 6: he thought the Orca was an actual killer whale, and

2165
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 6: now he's taking pictures of the Orca, sending us pictures.

2166
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 3: So can you see Richard advertise he's at the Harbor

2167
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 3: Harbor view god time, like over the weekend?

2168
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 6: Who worked with Richard?

2169
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 3: That's what we say, Oh Bougie, so Beth and I

2170
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 3: students Number.

2171
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 5: One hotel with the with the boys with Richard Cross

2172
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 5: from Lighthouse Beach.

2173
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Speaker 4: I didn't know you guys had that.

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01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 3: Kind of we don't. It's like.

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01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 4: You know, never comes doe there.

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01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 6: Quick question also from Rob just if any Patriots alumni

2177
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 6: will be at open practices that he went with my

2178
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 6: kids last year we got to meet Marcus Cannon, which

2179
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 6: was awesome. Yes, there usually are almost always alumni signing.

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01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 6: There'll be players signing after practice, which I think they

2181
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 6: brought back last year after a couple of years they

2182
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 6: didn't maybe do signings. Maybe that was just a COVID thing,

2183
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 6: but but yeah, plenty of alumni around the cheerleaders and

2184
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 6: me sitting. I don't know, I might be getting cut

2185
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 6: from the dock at this year.

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01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 5: They cut me from the docket last year because I

2187
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 5: was talking too much football, right, They were like, can

2188
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 5: you tell Evan to cut down on actually analyzing what's

2189
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 5: going on in practice?

2190
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 8: They got bar, my nephews are in line for Danny A.

2191
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 8: Mondola and than the cheerleaders and they ran off, and

2192
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 8: then my cousin was like, do you guys know who

2193
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 8: you're standing.

2194
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 7: In front of?

2195
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 4: The cheerleaders went by and they ran off.

2196
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 3: A good point.

2197
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 6: Perfect, Let's set out to Vancouver, Canada. Sean, Hey, Sean,

2198
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 6: what's going on?

2199
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: Hey Mike?

2200
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 10: I got a couple of things.

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01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 11: So one question I have I remember, yes, Sir Durant

2202
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 11: on the team in twenty twenty one, but I don't

2203
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 11: remember how he did. I know that he started one

2204
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 11: game at right tackle, but does anyone remember what he

2205
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 11: looked like any other thing? In terms of my expectations

2206
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 11: for this season, it's kind of like Evan, I don't

2207
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 11: have any expectations for wins or losses. It's more like

2208
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 11: how this team is going to look. Is there a

2209
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 11: clear path to what they're going to be like in

2210
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,759
Speaker 11: the future. Do we see something where may is leading

2211
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 11: an offense that that's getting better and with a few

2212
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 11: more weapons, they actually could contend in the future for

2213
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 11: Super Bowl one day. So that's that's the kind of

2214
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 11: thing I'm hoping for. Is are we going to get

2215
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 11: on that pack? So I'll take that offline.

2216
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 6: Thanks thought, go pack, Thanks Sean. I get the general

2217
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 6: gist of it. I think you feel feeds into what

2218
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 6: Paul said, like you just you'll kind of have a

2219
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 6: feel for it. Talked about the Philadelphia joint practice where

2220
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 6: if you had any illusions that this was the two

2221
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,759
Speaker 6: thousand and seven Patriots that you were watching last summer

2222
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 6: early on, that quickly derailed those dreams.

2223
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 4: And we were in Green Bay the year before.

2224
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was some juice that I was that very

2225
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 5: first practice especially, and I feel like the juice when

2226
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 5: I say that, it's always about the offense, right, Like

2227
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 5: if the offense had a good day and actually showed

2228
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 5: some life, then we were a little bit excited. But

2229
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 5: don't you remember Mac Jones to DeVante Parker up the

2230
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 5: sideline there in Green Bay and like I was like,

2231
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 5: oh wow, that was like we won the practice, Like whoa.

2232
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe it. Then they won four games, So,

2233
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 5: like you know.

2234
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 6: I was watching the defense.

2235
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 3: This is what I would make fun of them. Alex

2236
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 3: would take fun of them. I didn't see it. It

2237
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:05,719
Speaker 3: didn't happen.

2238
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,560
Speaker 4: I didn't see it no day that first practice.

2239
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 5: And I always the one like caveat to that is

2240
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 5: that there was definitely pressure on the quarterback that they

2241
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 5: just kind of weren't counting, like they weren't like stopping

2242
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 5: the play, you know, and so he had pressure in

2243
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 5: his face and instead of blowing a dead like that

2244
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 5: it was a sack, they just kind of let were

2245
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 5: letting the play continues. I probably should have put more

2246
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 5: emphasis on that than I did at the time.

2247
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 3: But last year when we watched against Philadelphia, we counted

2248
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 3: all those places sacks, yeah, right now, they completed passes

2249
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 3: on a lot of those. Yeah, But we said, well

2250
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 3: there was like seven sacks on that two minute drive

2251
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 3: that went right down the field.

2252
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 5: But when they did the you know scrimmage in in uh,

2253
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 5: you know, the joint practices in green Bay, the first

2254
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 5: day of joint practices, the Patriots won the scrimmage.

2255
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 4: They had the better team that day.

2256
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 5: And the two seasons could not have been more polar opposite,

2257
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 5: Like green Bay was a good team, the Patriots are terrible.

2258
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 6: I got the I was watching the defense, of course,

2259
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 6: but I got the full Jordan Love experience watching that,

2260
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,759
Speaker 6: because there'd be throws that you were like, holy crap,

2261
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 6: he would, you know, chuck it downfield that Christian Watson

2262
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 6: and he'd jump up and make a great play, and

2263
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden he'd skymail one like whoa

2264
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 6: where was that one?

2265
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 3: Uh?

2266
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 6: And I think you saw Josh Jacobs coming in last year,

2267
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 6: like helped some of those problems, but still some inconsistencies there.

2268
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 6: Boston Cream with a surprisingly boring question, normal question, you know,

2269
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 6: just uh, and he says, Alex, thank you for joining

2270
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 6: these pleaps. After returning from me elevated lifestyle of luxury

2271
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 6: you've been upholding this summer when you guys are able,

2272
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 6: how do you all vacation, relax and take time away

2273
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 6: from the team, Because this is the time time away

2274
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 6: from to relax, get away even Are you doing anything

2275
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 6: special over the.

2276
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 4: Next couple of weeks or anything? Nothing at all, anything stretch.

2277
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 3: I want to do it for on Tuesday, and he

2278
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 3: clearly didn't want to go through, so I let it go.

2279
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 6: We'll leave that away. I myself spent a couple of

2280
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 6: days up in Maine this week. It was wonderful, got

2281
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 6: a little pool time. But I've been telling the guys,

2282
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 6: like I'm debating. Usually this time of year, I take

2283
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:05,840
Speaker 6: like little pockets of like three four day weekends, but

2284
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 6: then I usually come in, try to do the shows,

2285
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 6: try to get some stuff done. One Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays.

2286
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 6: And I'm starting to wonder if I need to take

2287
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 6: like a prolonged period to like totally unplug. But right

2288
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 6: now I kind of like staying a little connected. Come in,

2289
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 6: do this show, try to stay sharp.

2290
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 3: We do.

2291
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,759
Speaker 6: You know, we're writing stuff and making training camp preview

2292
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 6: videos and those kind of things. So for me, it's

2293
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 6: just beach ice cream. Try to get out on the

2294
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 6: water as much as possible. You know, that's that's it.

2295
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 6: You gotta make it now because once we get going,

2296
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 6: it's don't stop till February, right, Paul, Well.

2297
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,919
Speaker 8: I feel like I haven't stopped. I need like vacations

2298
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 8: from my vacations.

2299
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 7: Charlotte.

2300
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 3: It's tough to be.

2301
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 8: I went to Charlotte this weekend. Landed late Sunday night,

2302
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 8: woke up at five, went to New York City, got

2303
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 8: back for the show today tomorrow.

2304
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 7: Night, I'm going to the Cape.

2305
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 3: Was in Charlotte.

2306
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 8: My best friend since first grade, and like, when I

2307
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:58,759
Speaker 8: say best friend, I know there's.

2308
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 7: A lot of even best friend.

2309
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 4: And since.

2310
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 8: She turned thirty and so four of us not a wedding,

2311
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 8: but she is getting married. So we did do a

2312
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 8: dress fitting for her and actually asked me a bridesmaid.

2313
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 3: There was a little bit of an eye roll.

2314
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 8: Then no, this is for genuine love. I would never

2315
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 8: say a poor thing about this girl or this wedding.

2316
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 8: But it was her thirtieth birthday and we surprised her.

2317
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 8: We like showed up to a dinner reservation and we

2318
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 8: were like, hey, is this seat taken and she lost

2319
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 8: her mind and cried and it was fun, but it

2320
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 8: was like, I haven't partied like that since college.

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01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 3: Nice, she can do her toast for at the wedding.

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01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 3: For those of you who don't know, I was intricately

2323
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 3: involved in.

2324
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 7: And I met on the schools.

2325
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 4: In New York City, and I still remember when.

2326
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 7: We moved to Boston. We moved there together.

2327
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 6: Christian just chiming in on the Patch Chargers six game.

2328
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,679
Speaker 6: What a game all timer for sure. I remember Brady

2329
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 6: postgame seeing everything they tried on offense didn't work. They

2330
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 6: basically knew they had to scrap the game plan after

2331
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 6: the first drive, kept trying different things throughout the game

2332
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 6: to generate offense. Crazy how good those Charger teams were

2333
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 6: by the way they were loaded. However, with Shottenheimer and

2334
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 6: then north Turner leading them, they just never had a

2335
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 6: shot LOI yeah, I mean Ladinian Tomlinson was just six

2336
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 6: seven yards of carry. He just was such a handful

2337
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 6: to deal with, catching the ball out of the backfield,

2338
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 6: anything in space, you know. I Vrabel had one tackle

2339
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 6: on him where he just like hit his leg. I

2340
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 6: mean he would have been gone. It just felt like

2341
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 6: they were holding on Patriots that whole game like they

2342
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 6: you know, like they so often did, and then you know,

2343
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:37,640
Speaker 6: you just you give yourself a chance to make a

2344
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 6: play down the end, and there you go. Keep going

2345
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 6: through these emails. Wedding talk Mitch and Saratoga. I was

2346
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 6: at a wedding this past weekend in the Native honor

2347
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 6: started her speech out for those of you who darn't

2348
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,759
Speaker 6: know me, couldn't help but chuckle out loud, which resulted

2349
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 6: it's dirty locks in my direction. I know how it

2350
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 6: should be disappointed.

2351
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 3: That's great, that's perfect, it's great. Email was there.

2352
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 15: That's what they do.

2353
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 6: Another one Kyle from Pembroke. As I continue to just

2354
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 6: crush these emails, Travis and all.

2355
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 3: Right, good afternoon.

2356
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 6: My favorite moment was the first preseason game of Mac

2357
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 6: Jones rookie year. My best friend and I tailgated had

2358
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 6: a great time in the two hundreds, and the atmosphere

2359
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 6: of hope was intoxicating. I remember in the fourth quarter

2360
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 6: the crowd was chanting we want Mac because we were

2361
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 6: down one score, and when a rookie Stevenson took a

2362
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 6: last second sweep for a long touchdown to win the game, the.

2363
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 3: Crowd went wild.

2364
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 6: Great experience, and even though the mac Era didn't go well,

2365
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 6: I still remember that moment of hope and excitement.

2366
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 4: Washington in the Giants preseason.

2367
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:37,600
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Vermandre had Like you said, it was the

2368
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 6: first preseason.

2369
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 5: It was like a seventy yard touchdown. I remember down

2370
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 5: the sideline.

2371
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.

2372
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 3: Cont recall no preseason game, Jesus.

2373
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 4: Yeah tough. Let's get you to a regular season game.

2374
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm psychotic, but I'm not that same.

2375
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, you remember everything else.

2376
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 4: But I went to preseason games all the time. I

2377
01:44:58,400 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 4: loved it.

2378
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 5: I'd sit up there with the foster my binoculars taking notes.

2379
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 6: This quarter, Evans's like, we gotta leave, we gotta go out,

2380
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 6: and He's like, I.

2381
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 3: Mean, I just have to cut dad.

2382
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 6: It's just getting good. The four fingers are going in.

2383
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 6: We're gonna find the gems.

2384
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:17,879
Speaker 3: So I'm like to separate the boy.

2385
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 5: That way all sports and like when the like the Celtics,

2386
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 5: like when they cleared the bench and they get to

2387
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 5: stay ready crew in there, Like my dad's like, all right,

2388
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 5: got you ready to go? And I'm like, what do

2389
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 5: you mean? J? D. Davidson's playing like, I got to

2390
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 5: see how he does. Baylor's out there.

2391
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 7: Begging for taco.

2392
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:34,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, He's like, can you please get it? Can

2393
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 4: we please?

2394
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 3: A little different when they're actually guys that are on

2395
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 3: the team, the guys that are playing those preseason games. No,

2396
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 3: his car wash all stocks and did the binoculars.

2397
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 4: I had the popcorn, and this gunner old Chewsky. I'm

2398
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 4: telling you, yeah, this guy's got a chance.

2399
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 3: He'll be out of the league in two years. I

2400
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 3: promise time for us.

2401
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 6: To provide a little help. Now for THEO and Fraser,

2402
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,720
Speaker 6: who are apparently in driver's they're big fans of the

2403
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 6: show and they just want to know. If you see

2404
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 6: a moose in the middle of the what should you do?

2405
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 6: A slow down but still hit the moose. Be hit

2406
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 6: the moose. See see stop and maintain a one hundred

2407
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,839
Speaker 6: foot distanced stop close to the moose. Nice little freshure

2408
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 6: on the rules. Anybody I don't have.

2409
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,440
Speaker 4: To do with the moose stops stop us, stop immediately,

2410
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 4: don't hit the.

2411
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 6: Mood, don't hit the moose.

2412
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 7: If you hit the moose, you might die.

2413
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 6: The moose will kill you. Moose wins every time.

2414
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of deer on the road.

2415
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 3: There has been lately three different ones beut there for

2416
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 3: a while.

2417
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 7: My friend just brought this up in Charlotte. She was like, guys,

2418
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 7: I have a weird question.

2419
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 8: We're like having dinner on a beautiful rooftop and she's like,

2420
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 8: have you guys noticed more roadkill on the road this year?

2421
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 7: And we're like, what are you talking about, Jackie.

2422
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 6: That was my biggest takeaway from driving through Iowa. When

2423
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 6: I came cross country. It was just carnage on the highway.

2424
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 6: Like every half mile or so, there was a deer

2425
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 6: that just exploded being after being hit by a truck

2426
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 6: and like they don't I mean, you're not gonna stop,

2427
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 6: you just boom. It's bloody carcass on the side of

2428
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 6: the road. But Iowa, I don't why.

2429
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 3: I don't know that great uplifting stories. Thanks thanks guys.

2430
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 6: Bloody car I mean I hit a deer one when

2431
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 6: blood flows a high and Sharon, I hit a deer

2432
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 6: coming home one night and I called the police just

2433
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 6: to tell him because the deer was lying in the

2434
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 6: middle of the road. And the guy came and he

2435
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 6: put a bullet and the things had to put it out.

2436
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 6: It's misery and then the thing like I got up

2437
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 6: a second later, He's like, oh he went back.

2438
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 3: I was looking at my tail and.

2439
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 6: He just like unloaded the clip. I mean, like three

2440
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 6: more shots in the head. It came back, just suffered, suffering.

2441
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 6: I've never seen one like that before. Christian knows what

2442
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 6: I'm talking about. It and then then he pulls out

2443
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 6: like his list and he's got just a list of

2444
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 6: guys ready to come take the meat off the road.

2445
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 5: And so it was.

2446
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 6: It all worked out fine, but that deer yeah took

2447
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 6: took quite a few put it down Elf from Wisconsin

2448
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 6: chiming into about our Showdown conversation, I like it or not.

2449
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 6: I think the quality of the team has something to

2450
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 6: do with becoming a fan growing up where I did

2451
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:50,879
Speaker 6: my entire fandom in Chicago. Teams except for the Patriots

2452
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 6: championships were an icing on the cake, but the Bears

2453
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 6: were just not enjoyable to watch in the least. So

2454
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 6: I picked a team that was fun and on national

2455
01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 6: TV a lot. Maybe Fred should be here to chime

2456
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 6: in on this one. On that seems kind of a

2457
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,639
Speaker 6: department of rooting for teams that are good.

2458
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 3: Ready until next Tuesday, whoever time is in the given

2459
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,719
Speaker 3: league is Fred's favorite. I lived everywhere.

2460
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 4: What are we doing?

2461
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 3: All right?

2462
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 6: So this is Jay in Minnesota. He's got a would

2463
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,720
Speaker 6: you rather a tough one? A Tuesday show and hearing

2464
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 6: all the garbage would you rather questions?

2465
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 3: I have one for you.

2466
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 6: Would you rather to give up kissing for the rest

2467
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 6: of your life? Or give up sauces?

2468
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 3: What?

2469
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 7: Kissing or sauces?

2470
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 3: Now that's good?

2471
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 6: What are the merried guys in their vistas? I'm going

2472
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 6: kisses there, bro, I love you, but I love me

2473
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 6: some sauces, the suitings.

2474
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 3: Buffalo barbecue. Honey, you guys are you can't?

2475
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 6: You can't give up on kissing just yet?

2476
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 4: I played the fifth.

2477
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:56,640
Speaker 5: There's no good answer for me there because she she

2478
01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 5: cooks it and partakes in both things. So like, which

2479
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 5: one do I say, either insult their cooking or the

2480
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 5: other one? You've played the fifth?

2481
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 6: Buffalo sauces good stuff. Isaac checks in on a good season.

2482
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 6: I'd been over the moon to get eight to ten wins,

2483
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 6: six to seven, I'd feel they're turning the corner and

2484
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 6: started to become the new England Patriots.

2485
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 3: I know in love.

2486
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,679
Speaker 6: Thank you guys for always keeping me in the loop

2487
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 6: with the Patriots. I think you boil it down generally.

2488
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 6: That's kind of how it feels.

2489
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,560
Speaker 3: It's back to Evans thing too. The way it unfolds

2490
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 3: it will tell you a lot about how you feel.

2491
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 5: I mean no disrespect anybody could, but can we retire

2492
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 5: the wins prediction questions like I'm sorry, we'll see okay.

2493
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 3: Well, if you've noticed, I don't really answer it very often.

2494
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:40,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not trying to throw shade it at our listeners.

2495
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 5: I love our listeners, but it's just like we you.

2496
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 4: Counter with, I don't know.

2497
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 5: I don't have in the last two years, right, that's

2498
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 5: I just don't have a different answer, like it's the same,

2499
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 5: Like it's the same answer since the schedule came out,

2500
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 5: like they they're right there.

2501
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 6: That's some Christian clap back too, of course, Paul, please

2502
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 6: don't let Christian from La speak for all fans. If

2503
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 6: he thinks ten wins would be a bad, bad season,

2504
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 6: he is truly as moronic as everyone thinks. I would

2505
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 6: be ecstatic for a ten win season. That would be

2506
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 6: a hope for our future. I don't expect the super

2507
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 6: Bowl this season, or even a playoff win. I expect

2508
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 6: taking advantage of bad football, like our head coaches said, Man,

2509
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 6: that's probably a good place to put your expectations.

2510
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 3: But more importantly, you need to play less bad football

2511
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:21,679
Speaker 3: than you have. Yeah, it's one thing to take advantage

2512
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 3: of the other team's mistakes, but you have to stop

2513
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 3: making the mistakes too.

2514
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 4: Or just like you know, move the ball consistently at all.

2515
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it's it's not even just that they were

2516
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 5: making mistakes over the last couple of years.

2517
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 4: They also just been like kind of an eppt on offense.

2518
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 4: Like it's not a combination.

2519
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 6: No, I mean, the bottom of the league. There's no

2520
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 6: way to really sugarcoat it. Everything kind of backs it up,

2521
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 6: but just makes those days of I mean, for me,

2522
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 6: since I got here, you were I know, well that

2523
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 6: one Miami game where you know, they got Antonio Brown

2524
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 6: and it was like, oh my god, this is you

2525
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 6: know seven again, Like it just felt like and then

2526
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 6: that season was a slow descent into into one of

2527
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 6: the worst Patriots teams that you've had recent memory. For

2528
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 6: whatever reason, if they had.

2529
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 5: Kept Antonio Brown on the rails, they would have won

2530
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. I stand by that, like they were.

2531
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 6: Would they have still gotten Mohammed Sanu.

2532
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 3: I don't think that team was very good. I mean

2533
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 3: they went twelve and four. I mean not very good

2534
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 3: for the for the Alex arrogant fans standards, not for

2535
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:19,640
Speaker 3: today's standard. They would have.

2536
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 5: Tonio Brown still had something in the tank, definitely, and

2537
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 5: they would have had him, They would have had Edelman,

2538
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 5: they would have had a decent defense, and they would

2539
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 5: have Brady obviously.

2540
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 6: Well, I mean by by DVA that was one of

2541
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 6: the best Patriots defenses of all time. But that's like

2542
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 6: the context thing you talk about, which I think is

2543
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 6: such a worthy deep dive. And as I've done my

2544
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:41,760
Speaker 6: eighty five research, I found from Aaron Shots that the

2545
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 6: eighty five team was I believe the the fourth fourth.

2546
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 6: I think it was the fourth, Yeah, fourth, that's d

2547
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 6: v A by that metric, you know, which just measures

2548
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 6: efficiency and that it's not really a whole lot of

2549
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:53,680
Speaker 6: human grading going on.

2550
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 3: Was kind of result, but it really wasn't.

2551
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:59,719
Speaker 7: But it was no receiving court was just like so stacked.

2552
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 13: They played a good team like Baltimore went through them

2553
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 13: that that Monday night game, like they was not even

2554
01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 13: on the field.

2555
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 4: But it was also a terrible matchup, Like, they didn't

2556
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 4: do well.

2557
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 3: It was talent against no talent.

2558
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:12,680
Speaker 4: Well, they didn't do.

2559
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,919
Speaker 5: Well against those types of offenses and those types of quarterbacks.

2560
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 5: Towards the end with Bill and and so that Baltimore

2561
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 5: team killed them. No, there's no doubt about it. It

2562
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 5: was not a close game. But I just feel like

2563
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,720
Speaker 5: if you had given Brady Antonio Brown, even at the

2564
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 5: back end of his prime, was still a little bit

2565
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 5: left in his.

2566
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 3: They certainly would have beaten Tennessee in that playoff.

2567
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 4: I think they would have just as good as their.

2568
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 3: Points they score. Yeah, and I think the eighteen Super

2569
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 3: Bowl was kind of fluky. I don't think they were

2570
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 3: the best team in football in eighteen.

2571
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 4: Kansas City probably was. Yeah, Homes I just think was

2572
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:51,920
Speaker 4: not not quite ready. Yeah.

2573
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:54,839
Speaker 3: Now it makes up for you know, back to Mike's

2574
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 3: childhood days, and it's reminiscing like oh six, it was

2575
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 3: completely league self inflicted wounds. You intentionally allowed David Gibbons

2576
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 3: to leave in free agency and then played hardball with

2577
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 3: Dion Branch So you left Brady with absolutely nothing on offense,

2578
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 3: and you still got to the final possession of the

2579
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:18,640
Speaker 3: AFC title game in a game that I know that

2580
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 3: I make fun of fans, but I'll do the same

2581
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 3: thing that you guys always do. They absolutely would have

2582
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 3: beaten the Chicago Bears in the Super Bowl games that

2583
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 3: they never played in. I know they're undefeated.

2584
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 5: They would not have lost to the Bears in the

2585
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 5: six Super Bowl. So what you're saying is they actually

2586
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 5: have seven rings completely completely.

2587
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:37,679
Speaker 3: Don't forget twenty fifteen because but I'm just saying, yes,

2588
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:43,719
Speaker 3: the fifteen team they should have. They should have beaten

2589
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,640
Speaker 3: Denver in that game. They shouldn't have lost to the

2590
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 3: shell of Peyton Manning. But that defense was that defense

2591
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 3: was legit.

2592
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a legit defense. I mean, we talked

2593
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 6: about it already.

2594
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 3: That was But I look at the six team was

2595
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 3: completely self inflicted. That didn't have to happen. They didn't

2596
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 3: have to go in with their hands tied behind their

2597
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 3: back the way they did. That was a super Bowl lost.

2598
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 3: And that makes up for the one that you kind

2599
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 3: of stealed in eighteen with a team that probably was

2600
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 3: was great but on fumes and they steal another one.

2601
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 6: It's like I said to you, even with the on

2602
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 6: branch that team, it was still it felt like a

2603
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 6: disservice to Tom Brady, who had won three Super Bowls,

2604
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:23,560
Speaker 6: and you know, you could see that the paradigm was

2605
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 6: starting to shift a little bit. And then that season

2606
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 6: it seems like woke them up to the fact of like, yeah,

2607
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 6: you can't do that, Like the what do you do?

2608
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 9: What?

2609
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 3: We went responts?

2610
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 6: They went outside at first.

2611
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 3: It was like Dante Stalwarts, Wyle Brady, you know, Kelly Washington,

2612
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 3: Like they went out and got a bunch of guys

2613
01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 3: to add weapons to the offense. Oh, by the way,

2614
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 3: they ended up with the best offense of all time. Yeah.

2615
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 6: And meanwhile in that game, you're watching Jabar Gaffney, who

2616
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 6: was acquired I think off waivers mid season. You have

2617
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 6: like nine ten catches, huge play, I mean touchdown.

2618
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 3: That made up for the Doug Gabriel experience.

2619
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 6: Cabriel who again that was got somebody they brought in early,

2620
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 6: which seemed like the reac too. We just had to

2621
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 6: trade Deon Branch. We need to get a body in here,

2622
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 6: and you brought in down Gabriel and I think they

2623
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 6: blasted the Vikings, like you know, shortly thereafter, and it

2624
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 6: made you briefly think that that they were on track.

2625
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's just interesting how how it all goes

2626
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 6: over twenty long years. Jack and and Armor just reminded

2627
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 6: us to Sony Michelle is a bad pick, not because

2628
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 6: he was not very talented, because you injury prone. And

2629
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 6: also the better pick would have been Nick Chubb. To

2630
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 6: your point, Paul, the people who were drafted around these players,

2631
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 6: this was his college teammate went on to a better career,

2632
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 6: and I think he just did. He just signed with Houston, Houston,

2633
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 6: right right, all right?

2634
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 3: I think I think Houston, don't.

2635
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 5: I don't know the whole thing like that to be

2636
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 5: his revision as history. Like I think when going into

2637
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 5: that draft, Michelle and Chubb were a coin flip, like

2638
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 5: there was there was Michelle people and there was Chubb people,

2639
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 5: and I don't think that that was are But you're

2640
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 5: paid to get it right.

2641
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 4: They're paid to get it right.

2642
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. But like I said earlier, Michelle

2643
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 3: that I missed on that one too. I liked Michelle,

2644
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 3: and I thought that Chubb was kind of a plotter

2645
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 3: and Michelle had the juice. Turned out to be the

2646
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 3: other way around. But you get paid to know that.

2647
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:10,240
Speaker 5: Everybody thought that everybody thought that that Chubb was going

2648
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 5: to be an early down work horse first and second

2649
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 5: down back, but not overly dynamic, and Michelle was going

2650
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 5: to be a pass catcher and versatile and all that

2651
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 5: kind of stuff.

2652
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2653
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 5: I just with the information that we had at the time.

2654
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 5: It was a coin flip, and they flipped the coin

2655
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 5: in the wrong direction.

2656
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 6: So Dan and Virginia and Michigan. Clarifying, salt and pepper

2657
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 6: referred to not just Paul and Evans respective hair colors

2658
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 6: and Paul's love of music, but also and primarily the

2659
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 6: occasional snarky nature of both of them. If we extend

2660
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 6: this condiment theme nickname to include Deuce and Alex, I

2661
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 6: guess they could be ketchup and Mustard, but I'll leave

2662
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 6: you to decide which is which.

2663
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 3: Alex is Mustard. She's got a little more horse radish,

2664
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 3: like horse radish. She's more spicy horse radish.

2665
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 6: On a nice cut of beef. You're just Mayo, buddy,

2666
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:03,120
Speaker 6: You're probably right.

2667
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 8: Crush, red pepper, paprika, timely conoments.

2668
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 4: You're right, that's true, right, Italian seasonings, smoke.

2669
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 3: It is correct.

2670
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 7: Is a collection of spices.

2671
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 5: I like Italian seasoning. I don't know just is called

2672
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:25,879
Speaker 5: Italians good mix a mix.

2673
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 7: Of spices together in one seasoning.

2674
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 6: I got a wonderful spice mix from Costco that it's

2675
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 6: basically just salt, pepper, garlic. But I've been putting it

2676
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 6: by the way.

2677
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 7: You have Costco. He's converted.

2678
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it happen invented. Were just a big box family.

2679
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, every I don't have to buy toilet

2680
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 6: paper for the next like two years.

2681
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 4: Yea Costco Costco.

2682
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 6: That's true. The chickens, the roast chickens. Everybody already knows

2683
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 6: about that. They're great. That I got to Alex because

2684
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 6: this is you gave me a life changing tip one time,

2685
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 6: and I just want to share it with the PEU

2686
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 6: audience because it's been amazing. It's changed my life with

2687
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 6: chicken breasts, and that is cutting them vertically, yes, instead

2688
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 6: of horizontally.

2689
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 7: Yes, so much more tender.

2690
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 6: It's so much more tender. Cut them vertically, like, Okay,

2691
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 6: you're making and you have the breast like breast like this,

2692
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 6: cut it along the.

2693
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 7: Lead, put it the long way so you have like

2694
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 7: then pound it out.

2695
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's I know.

2696
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 6: All you do is. I just take the spice Rabbi

2697
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 6: costco and so little olive oil, throw it in the

2698
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:39,040
Speaker 6: air fire, get a little bit well, not overdone because

2699
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 6: your chicken brest dry out. But I love it. I

2700
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 6: can't eat it enough.

2701
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 4: In the steak when you like you cut it like that,

2702
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 4: because there's like.

2703
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 6: You want to cut like a brisket. You want to

2704
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 6: cut like.

2705
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 4: Right, yeah that's like.

2706
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,880
Speaker 6: But now we're just doing I'm telling you people, if

2707
01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 6: you make chicken breasts, that's the way to go excellent.

2708
01:58:57,600 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 8: Like if you're making chicken cutlets, you have to do

2709
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 8: it that way, cut the long way, and then pound

2710
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 8: it out.

2711
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 7: I don't even like pound it out with a pounder.

2712
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 6: I just like he did the finger to you.

2713
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 3: You just gave me the finger, the Italian finger. I

2714
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 3: don't know why that's okay, And I'm just supposed to

2715
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 3: take it. I can't go to hr. You got to

2716
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:21,680
Speaker 3: give you the fingers. You got the cutlets? You get

2717
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 3: someone and get you.

2718
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 4: Don't put too many onions in the sauce.

2719
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:27,440
Speaker 3: Too much garlic.

2720
01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 7: Thing is too much garlic?

2721
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 6: There is that's where to God right there?

2722
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:36,440
Speaker 3: Well you can ruin it?

2723
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 6: Do we make it?

2724
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 3: Did we do it.

2725
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 6: I think we did it. Every email we give.

2726
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 3: That's okay, Evan and I took carry you.

2727
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 6: I'm giving you here to get out.

2728
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 4: No NBA draft talk though, No NBA draft.

2729
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 6: Cooper and Cooper Flag. Congratulations Cooper.

2730
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 7: I saw Cooper flag at my LA fitness once. He

2731
01:59:56,360 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 7: just yeah, jama pants at the Spring Delay Fitness.

2732
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 3: That's cool.

2733
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 7: I don't know why he might have been there for,

2734
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 7: like ooopaul or something. I don't know.

2735
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 4: Just just figured it out yesterday.

2736
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 3: It's a good player player played against Will should have

2737
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 3: been really he take him to the whole. He didn't.

2738
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 3: He didn't take it all that seriously in the summer.

2739
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 3: I guess the story was like instead of playing with

2740
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:20,520
Speaker 3: like the elite teams like in the summer, he liked

2741
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 3: to play with his friends. Oh yeah, yeah, And this

2742
02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:23,760
Speaker 3: was like one of those.

2743
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 6: Up on the local town teams Old Orchard Beach.

2744
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 3: It was nice. There you go, fun weekend.

2745
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 6: Congratulations Cooper. We're all proudy here in New England. And

2746
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 6: maybe make your way to the Celtics someday. We'll see.

2747
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 6: But that's gonna do it for us here, Patriots Unfiltered.

2748
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:37,320
Speaker 6: Fred will be back next week. And enjoy your summer weekend.

2749
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 6: We'll be back see you next Tuesday.

2750
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 3: Hey, this is Deuce.

2751
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:44,600
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2752
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:46,240
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2753
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:49,480
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02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:51,400
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2755
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:53,240
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2756
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 6: do here at the Patriots.

2757
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot.

2758
02:01:03,200 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 11: Hi,