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Speaker 2: don't care about my stats. He's like, I'm I'm playing

434
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Speaker 2: good defense. I'm gonna get my bat on the ball

435
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Speaker 2: when I can. He's like, I'm just I'm gonna get

436
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Speaker 2: at this. I'm gonna keep helping us win because that's

437
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Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 1: He really does play fana. He's fun to watch play

439
00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,120
Speaker 1: center field. He's like so in control and gets to

440
00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,600
Speaker 1: everything and make so many good plays. This is like

441
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Speaker 1: the super not sexy side of baseball. But for baseball people,

442
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Speaker 1: like baseball fans like us who are listening to this

443
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Speaker 1: podcast and talking about it, you love that kind of stuff.

444
00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,400
Speaker 2: I've never seen a backpedal as confident as Harrison Bather genuinely.

445
00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,640
Speaker 2: If you ever see a player backpedaling, especially like as

446
00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,480
Speaker 2: quickly as Beata backpedals, it's usually before something horrible happens,

447
00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,360
Speaker 2: usually before a baseball folly. I think we've seen I

448
00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,320
Speaker 2: think we've sadly seen Lucas doing the met legend fallen

449
00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,720
Speaker 2: last a few times that when he got used to

450
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Speaker 2: try to play left and right field, but not beater

451
00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,800
Speaker 2: Bata's super control. Also, I want to give a lot

452
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Speaker 2: of credit to Katana. He's he's kind of brought up

453
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Speaker 2: the nose of the ship and the last few starts

454
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Speaker 2: you're really good. The change up was I was watching

455
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Speaker 2: this game from the outfield, so think it's a really

456
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Speaker 2: good spot to see a change up because that thing

457
00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,480
Speaker 2: was just ducking at ducking and ducking and ducking all

458
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Speaker 2: day long, falling off the tap. But it was really amazing.

459
00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,040
Speaker 2: And now looking on baseball, Savine and had eight whifs

460
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Speaker 2: on thirteen swings, and that that was his pitch that he

461
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Speaker 2: kept going to. And he did a little bit of

462
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Speaker 2: a little bit of David Peterson this game, where he

463
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Speaker 2: was like the fastball, the sinker, the change up, the curveball,

464
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,480
Speaker 2: mix them all, mixing all different sides of the plate

465
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Speaker 2: and it was beautiful to say.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jose Glacier is another big hit in this one too,

467
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Speaker 1: getting the double a couple hits. We also have to

468
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Speaker 1: talk about the fact that he's now going to be

469
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Speaker 1: playing every day because Jeff McNeil got hit in the

470
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Speaker 1: arm on Friday night wrist or risk yet fractured his

471
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Speaker 1: wrists out for the season, which is unfortunate because Jeff

472
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Speaker 1: has been playing so well so well, and the versatility

473
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Speaker 1: he gives us by being able to play second base

474
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Speaker 1: and any outfield position is phenomenal. But now Jose Glacier

475
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Speaker 1: is gonna be thrown in to this line up every

476
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Speaker 1: single day, and he did step up on Saturday two

477
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Speaker 1: for four. Like we got the news that McNeil's out

478
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Speaker 1: for the year, I Glacy's gonna be playing every day,

479
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Speaker 1: and he did a good job. We also have to

480
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Speaker 1: talk about the call up because McNeil gets sent down.

481
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Speaker 1: A lot of people were wanting Luis on Helakunya to

482
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Speaker 1: be called up. A lot of people maybe wanted.

483
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Speaker 2: Drew Jilberth to be called up.

484
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Speaker 1: I think both of those would have been good options

485
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Speaker 1: up going the safe route. DJ Stewart, Uh, what do

486
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Speaker 1: we think about that? I wasn't a huge fan of

487
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Speaker 1: the safe boring play by any means.

488
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Speaker 2: I think that the ends of the day, and I

489
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Speaker 2: agree in this sense that this Mets team needed a

490
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Speaker 2: left handed hitler on the roster as like a bench compliment.

491
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people have soured on DJ

492
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Speaker 2: Stewart tremendously this season. But I also think that of

493
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Speaker 2: all the hitters in the minor leagues, because there's a

494
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Speaker 2: lot of people even claiming for Luke River. It was

495
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Speaker 2: arguing with the Luke rather person I mentioned, it's just

496
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Speaker 2: like I don't know you, you've We've watched with our

497
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Speaker 2: eyes DJ Stewart get blazing hotts Major. It's something that

498
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Speaker 2: has happened. There's there's a tangible time where DJ DJ

499
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Speaker 2: there was a month where DJ Stewart was basically the

500
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Speaker 2: best either in the mess. Yeah, it happy put the

501
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Speaker 2: freaking hubbababba and his on his head there. But I

502
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Speaker 2: don't hate it in that sense because I think the

503
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Speaker 2: end of the day bottom I need left headed hither.

504
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Speaker 2: So I Acunia is already and he's not switched other

505
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Speaker 2: so I think that kind of knocked him off. You

506
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Speaker 2: kind of brought up Pablo Reyis as like the bench

507
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Speaker 2: speed infield guy, So I think that Acuni would be erroneous.

508
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Speaker 2: I do think that there's a world where Jose Glacis

509
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Speaker 2: doesn't continue to hit at this well above league average rate.

510
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Speaker 2: They's hit the whole year. Even the last month for

511
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Speaker 2: a Glaciers has been much colder than the first two were.

512
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Speaker 2: So I think that if that becomes an issue, then

513
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Speaker 2: maybe you do that.

514
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Speaker 1: But I don't.

515
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not again, I don't hate it.

516
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Speaker 2: I if it was me personally, just for the sense

517
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Speaker 2: of lightning in a bottle, just to the sense of

518
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Speaker 2: someone who has this crazy energy and for someone who's

519
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Speaker 2: left handed bat. I would have loved to see Drew

520
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Speaker 2: Gilbert do this. I'm saying this podcast all year. I

521
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Speaker 2: Drew Gibler didn't pull that hamstring. I think he would

522
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Speaker 2: have been this team a lot earlier, a much sooner.

523
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Speaker 2: He would have gotten every single Ben Gamble at bad

524
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Speaker 2: who's kind of crushing with the Astros. Don't worry about that, yeah,

525
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Speaker 2: in not worried because Drew gil was also having really

526
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Speaker 2: weirdier in Triple A where you guys all see the

527
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Speaker 2: highlights that everyone posts on Twitter with like Drew Gilbert,

528
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Speaker 2: another horme on Dwobert, another hor r on Drew Gilbert,

529
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Speaker 2: another home run. He's not getting in the actual hits,

530
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Speaker 2: it's only home runs, which is funny. So part of

531
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Speaker 2: me thinks that, like, Okay, he's running like a ridiculously

532
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Speaker 2: low Babbitt, But I think he has like a one

533
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Speaker 2: to twenty batting average on balls and play unstandable that

534
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Speaker 2: will go up but I also think that the center

535
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Speaker 2: Drew Gilbert, knowing that what the run environment is in

536
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Speaker 2: the in the in triple A right now, how the

537
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 2: ball flies in triple A, He's like, I'm going to

538
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Speaker 2: fucking sell it out for power. I don't know if

539
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Speaker 2: I want to get in the major league team. They

540
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 2: need power, that's what they need. They want to see

541
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Speaker 2: home runs. So maybe he's over indexing himself doing that.

542
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Speaker 2: But still at the end of the day, I can't

543
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 2: I can't kill them. As for DJ Stewart, it's not sexy,

544
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 2: it's not fun. But I think in terms of a

545
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Speaker 2: tangible baseball move, especially because Gilbert wil't need to be

546
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Speaker 2: added to the forty man roster, yes, and there wasn't

547
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Speaker 2: a clear and obvious forty man position player to get

548
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Speaker 2: rid of. I don't think any this Mets team is

549
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Speaker 2: in position right now to just start to dump an

550
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Speaker 2: asset for free, as in the home stretch here. So again,

551
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Speaker 2: unless but Jeff could have gone sixty Dael, Yeah, I

552
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Speaker 2: guess he could have. Guess maybe not, because you make

553
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Speaker 2: a playoff run, he comes back. Because I also think

554
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Speaker 2: that's the part of this that's true. I think people

555
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Speaker 2: got stuck in with Jeff being bad from the beginning

556
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Speaker 2: of the year. Jef McNeil has been awesome two months now.

557
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Speaker 2: Central I first I tweeted this too, two seventy one,

558
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Speaker 2: three fifty three, five h six triple slash for eight homers,

559
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Speaker 2: a higher second half WRC plus and show Hail Tani.

560
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Speaker 2: So just to get it's true. I mean, that's one

561
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Speaker 2: of those guys MVP can and then the other one

562
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Speaker 2: Showhio Tani. So but just there's a there's a Jeff

563
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 2: McNeil have been playing really good baseball. He's a really

564
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Speaker 2: important part of the Bombs lineup, and his defense has

565
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 2: been great at multiple say it's the most verstyle player

566
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Speaker 2: on the roster. I think that's where this loss really

567
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 2: really hurts. And why did the DJ Stewart thing feels

568
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Speaker 2: like any complete edition rather than like something to get

569
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Speaker 2: excited about.

570
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably hard to like rationalize the idea of

571
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Speaker 1: McNeil DJ Stewart that that replacement just because they don't

572
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Speaker 1: do the same thing nearly at all.

573
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Speaker 2: No, not close.

574
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Speaker 1: But again I think I think it's simply a left

575
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Speaker 1: handed bat. Yes, no, it definitely is that, and he

576
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Speaker 1: has pop. He has pop Pincher.

577
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Speaker 2: He can run like base, he doesn't get on base.

578
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm he's not playing every day like

579
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Speaker 2: it was the beginning of the We don't have to be

580
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Speaker 2: worried about that one right now, guys. But it's yeah,

581
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Speaker 2: it's not sexy, but it's not I don't know, it's

582
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Speaker 2: not not Sky's not falling because we didn't call up

583
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Speaker 2: the prospect.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the other thing that happened in this

585
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Speaker 1: game too, Edwin Diaz being used in a four nothing

586
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Speaker 1: game back to back days no, well, no, the fo yeah,

587
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Speaker 1: Friday tie game. But I'm saying being used on a

588
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Speaker 1: back to back day on Saturday in a four to

589
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Speaker 1: nothing game not being available on Sunday. We now know

590
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Speaker 1: on Sunday film Mayton blew the game first time in

591
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Speaker 1: a while. He's really looked human for so you can't

592
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Speaker 1: really get on him. But what do we think about

593
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Speaker 1: the managerial decision there to go with Diaz.

594
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Speaker 2: I think that I feel bad that Mindo's been put

595
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Speaker 2: in the situation where Edwin Diaz is so erratic and

596
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Speaker 2: he consists in this year, and I think that's just

597
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Speaker 2: because he's still getting back from the injury. Had a

598
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Speaker 2: conversation by Buddy. Ryan was at the game with him

599
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Speaker 2: on Saturday, and we were just kind of lamenting, whether

600
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Speaker 2: it be injury, whether it be a contract dispute, whether

601
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Speaker 2: it be a suspension, if you're a professional athlete, to

602
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: stop playing your sport fro an extended period of time

603
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 2: and then to play it again. His game is going

604
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Speaker 2: to move fast like it's going to be hard to

605
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Speaker 2: get this stuff together, especially the level edwuind Didas was

606
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Speaker 2: pitching at he was pitching, he had a one year stretcher.

607
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Speaker 2: He was one of the best relievers in history of

608
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Speaker 2: baseball statistically, So just to get back, it's hard to

609
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Speaker 2: get back on that rhythm. And I think rhythm has

610
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Speaker 2: been the big thing with Edwin because he had those

611
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Speaker 2: bad couple of games in the West Coast trip when

612
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Speaker 2: he was getting up and down, up and down, up

613
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Speaker 2: and down, and this game he got up. So on Saturday,

614
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Speaker 2: if he gets up, he's up. And that's kind of

615
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Speaker 2: been the mo with Edwin of late, and as that's

616
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Speaker 2: been them with him of late, he's looked much more discussing.

617
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: The velocity is up. He's got more swings and miss

618
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: doesn't Slyther commands better across the board, So I can't

619
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Speaker 2: really fault Mendoza in that moment. But then the only

620
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Speaker 2: other thing was that the Mets score all four of

621
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Speaker 2: that runs this game in one inning. Yeah, so it

622
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: was a four run game throughout. So that is the

623
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: one point where I'm like, this Reds offense hasn't has

624
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: been knemick the whole series. They'd been anemick for months now.

625
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: They were Nie Muck again on Sunday. Besides for the

626
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: Santiago Estpinal blooped all all that costs in the game.

627
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Speaker 2: So I can't I think that, I don't know, it's

628
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Speaker 2: easy to play Monday morning quarterback hindsight, I was twenty twenty,

629
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Speaker 2: so like now it's like, oh yeah, I really wish

630
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Speaker 2: I could it pitched the Taig game on Saturday, because

631
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: he pitched the tag game on Friday and win that game.

632
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: But I can't fault him. But also think like maybe

633
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Speaker 2: the way some of these other guys in the bullpen

634
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Speaker 2: have him pitching, it wouldn't have been the worst at yea,

635
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Speaker 2: because it doesn't make sense in a game where Adam

636
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 2: Olaveno gets it out in the seventh inning and then

637
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Speaker 2: you give Danny Young the eighth with d You know

638
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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like if you're using the B and

639
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: C team bullpen and then you go to the closer,

640
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Speaker 2: that to me didn't compute. That didn't seem like a

641
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Speaker 2: logical drug progression of relievers being used.

642
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Speaker 1: Yeah, now I can get behind that. I thought the

643
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Speaker 1: same thing. It felt weird, but I mean, at the

644
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Speaker 1: end of the day, they won the game. You guaranteed

645
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Speaker 1: that win. It's like the whole conversation of like, win

646
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Speaker 1: the game in front of you versus thinking about the

647
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Speaker 1: next day, and like, let's be honest about on Sunday.

648
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Speaker 1: It didn't really deserve to win that game on Sunday either,

649
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: Like they pitched really well. I don't think either team

650
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: started to win that game. Oh yeah, bad baseball game. Yeah,

651
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: I mean, sever Reno was fantastic on the map, really good.

652
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: And again because Luis Averno is fucking awesome. But like

653
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: at the plate, talk about Anemik. The Mets where anemick.

654
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: They had four hits Lindor on Bay streak over. Unfortunately

655
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: it's come to an end. But he's been incredible obviously,

656
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: and then and the irony in this.

657
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Game on Sunday Lindora the hardest hit ball in the game.

658
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: Of course, that's how it works, that's baseball. But Iglacy's

659
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: got to hit. Marte got a hit and Harrison Bader

660
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: had two hits.

661
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: Go figure.

662
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: But that was pretty much in for the offense from

663
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Speaker 1: this team. Like there just wasn't a lot on Sunday.

664
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean shot out Luis Averno another game where

665
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 2: he leaned on the sweeper and the pitch was filthy

666
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: and push him to a good start. I dropped you, guys,

667
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 2: just hat a month ago, still rough tracking it by hand.

668
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: When he throws that sweep at least fifteen percent of

669
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Speaker 2: the time, we're looking at about a fifteen percent track

670
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: of my his walk right and era it's about three,

671
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 2: and he throws a fewer than fifteen percent of the time.

672
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Speaker 2: It's strike up my mind as walk right around seven

673
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 2: and e r around four and a half. So he's

674
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: a significantly different pitcher when he throws that sweeper more

675
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: because he misses tons of bats. It's it's fully lethal

676
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: against right handed, right handed batters. And also in this game,

677
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: seve Reno talk about getting stronger as the deero goes on.

678
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: There's hardest pitch of the season ninety nine point five

679
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 2: miles an hour. TV said it was one hundred. We

680
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: don't round up pitch of vlass. He is the messed

681
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: up podcast. That's a flag. I mark, Mark and I

682
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: plant in the ground. We did not round up. I

683
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: think he might get a real hundred this year, but

684
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: seeing him throw that two seam or nine nine and

685
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: a half, that's disgusting.

686
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: If we round it up, I'd be six feet tall.

687
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: There, you got me. I I would two technically five, right,

688
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: that's halfway about six and a half. Why not, right?

689
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: But it's the first time the listeners hurt my height.

690
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: Every time I meet someone, they're like shorter than I thought.

691
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, thanks dude, five times just in.

692
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Speaker 1: Case, Hey, what was one drig Yeah?

693
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Speaker 2: Also, seve Reno was till pumping ninety seven in the

694
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Speaker 2: seventh inning of this game, so like, and he lost

695
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: just he lost a little dinky blue single from Noelvie Marte.

696
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: But it's just he seems to be getting better as

697
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 2: the deer goes on. I'm I'm really happy to give

698
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: him the ball and tough series and he's lining up

699
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: to face the Phillies and Philly next weekend the game

700
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: on Saturday, I might. I might be at it's possible.

701
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: My family's gonna be there, and to see if I

702
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: can if I can swing it, like shoot the gap

703
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: for my one day weekend off from work. But he's great.

704
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 2: It's just they didn't play well enough to win. If

705
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: you can't hit Julian agui Are you probably shouldn't win.

706
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: No, definitely shouldn't. If you can't hit Tony Santian and

707
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Speaker 1: you can't hit Amelia Pagan and Justin Wilson who low

708
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: key throwing ninety kind of guess who the hell did

709
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: that come from? Which did he ever throw ninety seven

710
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: with the Mets?

711
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 4: Uh?

712
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: Not with the Mets, but I think he has had

713
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: that in his career. Okay, Well, and then Aggie are

714
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: same as junas the day before. Sinker slider, sinker slider,

715
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: sinnker slider. So much on the hands. If this was

716
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: a game playing in Great America Ballpark, Mets have five runs,

717
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: six maybe, but that that's just difference. These guys probably

718
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: can't wait to get other and pitching in a playce

719
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: like Cidney Field because just fly balls are caught by

720
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: outfielders who knew.

721
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Speaker 1: Must be nice and shower Reed Garrett, He's just continuing

722
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: to look really, really good.

723
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: I was loading up to read the read Garrett stats

724
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: right now full one Avy. He's back to throwing strike one,

725
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: which is a big deal for him, and he's still

726
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: throwing with all different pitches, which I also think is

727
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: really really important. And I think he's willing to give

728
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: up a little a little bit more hard contact now

729
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: than he was the beginning of the year because just

730
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: by getting that strike one, like letting his fielders do

731
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: some work, because once he gets strike one, he has

732
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: so many weapons as reliever for that, the hitters have

733
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: no idea what's coming next. The fact that splither is

734
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: just it's diving against missing bads. He might have just

735
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: not really been that healthy when he was cold. I

736
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: think he might have been hurt probably a big part

737
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: of it. But the sweeper is really good right now.

738
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: The color is really good right now, He's using them

739
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: all a lot. Splither, like I said, disgusting not afraid

740
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: to throw out the fastball or the two seamer right now,

741
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Speaker 2: So I'd like that a lot. He looks tremendous again.

742
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: He's someone who with Jose Bouda. I think we're much

743
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: more comfortable with our late ending setup now than we

744
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: were two weeks ago.

745
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: We also have a new addition to the bullpen, as

746
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, Tyler McGill. Yeah, it is happening.

747
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: He is now officially in the bullpen. This is something

748
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: me and James have been clamoring for for years on years.

749
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: Just seems like a better fit for him right now,

750
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Speaker 1: especially with what we've been seeing.

751
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: There was a quote Will sam and led the piece

752
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: that he's available at the bullpen starting today, and they

753
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: said presumably in a long relief role, but I think

754
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: once begin to situation, we'll see also get nice to

755
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: have a long relief roal. We haven't really had a

756
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: long man this whole year. So happy that's ty Laura

757
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: could like be the sponge and soak up those innings

758
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: in the middle when we need them. Bob, I really

759
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: would love to see what he could do, like similar

760
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: to what exactly we've just seen all of us with

761
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: our eyes with Jose Budo. Here's forty pitches, gass it up,

762
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: get to ninety eight, drop those sliders, drop a curve ball,

763
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: and like see what you can do. Because I think

764
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: that is. I think there's some serious upside in Tomer

765
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: McGill there. I'll never quit with that Fastball'll never quit.

766
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: Can't do it, can't do it. Won't kill Ryan Nelson.

767
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Nelson's been great fastball.

768
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Speaker 2: Yeah, best star on Sunday, but looked the last two months.

769
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: But literally one of the best pitches in baseball. And

770
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Speaker 2: you have that fastball, so much easier to branch things

771
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: off that fastball, which McGill's really tried to do. But

772
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: just again, we're seeing it right now. David Peterson, guys too.

773
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: It just takes pictures a long ass time. Sometimes it

774
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: really does day appearson when he first come up twenty twenty.

775
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was twenty twenty, right, and yeah.

776
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty. Then he pitched go on twenty twenty, band

777
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: twenty one guy injured, really good in twenty two again

778
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: and bad twenty three, got injured again. Now this year healthy,

779
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: good again. So sometimes it pitchess oscillate so much. That's

780
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: why I love pitching so much, because things change all

781
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: the time and just get you gotta be aware of them.

782
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: That's how he spoted spot the new stuff.

783
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: And again as stand in the National League playoffs standings.

784
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: The Mets are technically tied right now with the Atlanta

785
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Braves seventy eight and sixty five. One game back from

786
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: the Dimonbacks is probably gonna be two gay or one

787
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: and a half games now because it looks like they're

788
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna beat the Astros at the time of recording, and

789
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: the Padres are two games up on the Mets, so

790
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: there is a ton of room to still be had.

791
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: There still a bunch of games left. We've got the

792
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: Blue Jays series coming up here, and we're gonna do

793
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: a preview with our boy Thomas Nestico aka TJ Statz.

794
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: Anything else to talk about here before we hit that preview.

795
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: Talk like two more minutes about this wildcard race, because

796
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: I think that we've had a lot of people talking

797
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: to us on Twitter, people writing in reviews and stuff.

798
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: Got the voicemails. You voicemails also, guys, so keeping out

799
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: for voicemail episodes. But I think that we've all seen

800
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: so much baseball that we know, really any of these

801
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: four teams can fall off and miss the playoffs. Yeah,

802
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that to be like statistic about

803
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: like the negative about the Mets, but anyone the Padres,

804
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks, the Braves and the Mets. Everyone right now

805
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: can miss the playoffs. All No one is safe.

806
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: Even the Phillies are playing horrendous base one. I thought

807
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: they're going to miss the payoffs, but an he means

808
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: they're in the off start going to the postseason. But

809
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 1: like the good teams are even struggling at times. They

810
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: just got their paint the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: Ten piece by the Marlins, and literally all of a sudden,

812
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: the whole year. Oh my god. The Dodgers, what's going

813
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: on again? They're back to the best record in the

814
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Speaker 2: National League. They're close to the best record in baseball.

815
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Speaker 2: I think that's gonna wind up just being everything it

816
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: always was. But this it's so close right now. No

817
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: one is safe. That's why those series we just played

818
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: in San Diego and Arizona were so important. Why it

819
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: was great that we hold the time break over the

820
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: both those teams. We have three in Atlanta in two

821
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: weeks that I'm just We're I'm gonna have to go close. Yeah,

822
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 2: Mark wants to go. I might signed up too. We're

823
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 2: gonna see how that week goes. But it's just it's

824
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: so tight. We've seen this before. Three weeks of baseball left.

825
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: It's every single game is so important. We were watching

826
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: football today and locked into the Padres game and Braves

827
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: extra innings on the second monitor, because like we can't

828
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: miss anything. And of all these teams in this mix,

829
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: the Mets are playing a little bit best ball right now.

830
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: Of these four teams, the Mets. The Mets are pitching well,

831
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 2: Mets are hitting well, Mets are playing good defense. I've

832
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: been mischeff ingnil the rest of the year a lot,

833
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: but I truly think from the bottom of my heart

834
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: that Francisco Indoor and Jose Glaciers are the crispiest, smoothest

835
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: double double play combo and baseball right now. Their hands,

836
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: like cumulatively are insane. They turned the double play on Saturday.

837
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: It was the first second inning where Jose Glacier's dove

838
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: for a ball at the middle turn around flip the

839
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: Francisco Indoor. I didn't even think they were going to

840
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: get one out and they wounded up with two hours.

841
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: Katana was pumping his fist. Also Shado Jose and Gatana

842
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: first Columbia more pitch in the history baseball two hundred

843
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: career wins, awesome shadows, tremendous achievement. For that, it's amazing

844
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: thing to see. Not a lot of Columbi's in the league,

845
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: but it's it's so beautiful watch these two guys play.

846
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: I was with a friend who doesn't really pay that

847
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: much attention to baseball. They were like, those guys hands

848
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: are unbelievable. I was like, hell, yeah, they are.

849
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: Hell that was like Paul Blackburn's first start out in

850
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: LA or whatever when he was going up against them

851
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: and Jose Glacias and Lindor turned those double plays, and

852
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's gotta be like, oh my god, I

853
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: have fielders behind me. I'm not in Oakland anymore. This

854
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: is amazing.

855
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: But I think that's I think it's the wrap of

856
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 2: the week. It's good week for the Mets, really good

857
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: week for the Mets. Happy to see you know, Danny Young,

858
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: Reid Garrett, these guys fill in the ballpen, look good, nice,

859
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Speaker 2: nice things happening. The Jeff injury stinks, but let's just

860
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: you know, keep playing ball. Next man up, Like always,

861
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: good week for the Mets of the boys too. All right,

862
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and talk to our boy TJ. Stats

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Speaker 2: Thomas Nestico Little Blue Jay's Preview. All right, guys, we

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Speaker 2: have a very special interview right now, a friend to

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Speaker 2: help us preview the Blue Jay series and just talk pitching,

866
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Speaker 2: because of course I want to do that all day long,

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Speaker 2: every single day. It's Thomas Nestico. You guys might know

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Speaker 2: him as TJ stats on Twitter. One is the probably

869
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Speaker 2: right now one of the best, if not the best

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Speaker 2: baseball account that's active and moving. So Thomas TJ. What's

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00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: going on, man? How you doing?

872
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 4: I'm doing all right? Thank you for having me on

873
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 4: the pot today. Just a regular old day here, sharing

874
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 4: some pitching summaries. Are a few games going on, and

875
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: let's see. Yeah, just glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: I mean for those of us watching or listening watching,

877
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Speaker 1: you'll see h Thomas got the blue Jay's jersey on

878
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: as we know, big Blue Jays fan series with the

879
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: Blue Jays coming up here, very weird season for them

880
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: as a whole, and as a Mets fan, we don't

881
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: really get to hear from Blue Jays fans too often

882
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: because you guys are north of the border. What's been

883
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: the whole vibe? It's a team this year. I mean

884
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: you guys thought you were gonna trade Blad Junior at

885
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: one point. Now it seems like he's never gonna leave.

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00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. There, this year has been been a tough one.

887
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: I thought they were gonna be at least playoff contenders.

888
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: Entering the season. I kind of had them maybe even

889
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: like close to winning the division. But now that's kind

890
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 4: of even at the end of like April, we kind

891
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: of figured out that that wasn't going to happen.

892
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

893
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: The bullpen has been a disaster the whole season. I

894
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: know the Mets have had some bullpen woes, but if

895
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: you've seen the Blue Jays this year, you're you're you're

896
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: lucky that you don't have their bullpen because like Romano

897
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: has been pretty much missing the whole season. They traded

898
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: away basically any other good arm they had. The hitting recently,

899
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: it's actually been heating up a bit since the since

900
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 4: the All Star break. There, I think like top ten

901
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: in the league in wor City plus basically any batting

902
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: metric out there. But again, they're pitching still seems to

903
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: not be very consistent. They lost Minoa, they sure to

904
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 4: be Kakuchi and again the vibe I think recently I've

905
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: been alright, because there's a bunch of young guys playing,

906
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: which is always fun to see your rookies out there,

907
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: some prospects. But to the extent of that, the only

908
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: batter is really worth watching or Vladdie and Varshow. Really,

909
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 4: Varshow has been not really known for his bat, but

910
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: at least he's an entertaining fielder. But again, Laddy is

911
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: just Vladdie. He's having the best season of his career,

912
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: which is crazy after that insane MVP caliber season he

913
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: had a few years ago, and it's just he's a

914
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: blast to watch. Just nothing else is.

915
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: So I wind up watching a lot of Blue Jays

916
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: games because I got put on a lot of East

917
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: Coast games and I cover them for World the World,

918
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: So I've I've probably watched more games than even half

919
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays fans have over the last two two

920
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: three months of the season. And Mark always makes fun

921
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: of me because I say, I like, weirdly a lot

922
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: of these young dudes who are playing every day in

923
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays well Wagner, Ernie Clement, Spencer Horwitz, Leo Jimenez.

924
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: So is there is there any hope for you think

925
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: any of the those guys I just named or someone

926
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: I didn't name to become like an actual contributor on

927
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: a future Blue Jays playoff team.

928
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: I think from the names there, Horowitz is probably like

929
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 4: the main guy I'm most comfortable and competent in I

930
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: He has a fantastic approach. The power seems to be

931
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: at least present when the Triple A wasn't hitting for

932
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 4: too much power, but at least it seems like he

933
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 4: has a little bit of pop. Wagner, it seems like

934
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: the Jay's love getting those former I guess players in

935
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: the nineties their children coming in play. But Wagner has

936
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 4: been good since being called up. Barger, He's seems that

937
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: he's kind of progressing well. He had a pretty rough

938
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 4: early start when he got called everything around June June

939
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 4: this year, but it seems he's been turning it around.

940
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the young bats are the They

941
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: could definitely be like major league players like Ernie Clement

942
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: has shown us this year that he could be a

943
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 4: serviceable second basement shortstop in the in the future. And

944
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: his I guess his contact skills are great, Like he's

945
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: about a one hundred w C plus is the average

946
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: hitter but his defensive capabilities, he's could be like a

947
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: two to three war player. Uh in the future. It's

948
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: just pretty good as even just a like a utility infielder. Uh.

949
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: And like again, players like Leo Jimenez, he's been he's

950
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: been all right too. Unfortunately a relviis Martinez. I was

951
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: really excited when he got called up and then within

952
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: days suspended like eighty games, and like I saw my

953
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 4: I saw I think it was on my birthday he

954
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: got suspended. So I checked my phone and I saw

955
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: the Jeff Passing tweet. I'm like, what do you mean?

956
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 4: Oh my god, man, the I that was? That was crazy.

957
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 4: But the the Blue Jays bats, at least the their

958
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: their farm team, they seem to have a pretty good

959
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 4: kind of influx. I think they'd actually probably trade away

960
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: some of their younger bats for some pitching help this

961
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 4: year as they're pitching their farm team decimated they have,

962
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 4: They're like, it's it's sad they got thank god they

963
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: got Jake bloss at the deadline. He's there probably their

964
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: best prospect right now. And then I guess you're savage too.

965
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: I don't think he's pitching this year, so I won't

966
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 4: be able to get any data on him, but he

967
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 4: seemed to be highly regarded during the draft. But other

968
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: than that, it's it's looking rough for at least in

969
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: the in the pitching department for the Blue Jays. But

970
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 4: at least next year they'll still have kind of the

971
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: same five starting pictures they have this year, which I

972
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: think they can kind of run it back with hopefully

973
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: average pitching, but the batting really needs to step it up,

974
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 4: and the bullpen that's easy to replenish. They just got

975
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: to figure out what to do when it gets to

976
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: that in the off season.

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00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: Well, so put from that pitching, that's your schedule to

978
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: face someone who I like a lot, who I think

979
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: you like a lot too. Boden Francis in this coming

980
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: series is both in Francis. Is this is he quite

981
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: a good picture or is this someone mirage or is

982
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: he just something in between?

983
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 4: Definitely not as good as he was in August. I

984
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 4: don't think anyone other than I think I think the

985
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: stretcher is like the only picture to ever do this

986
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 4: in the past, like thirty years, is cleating Kershaw like

987
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 4: that four or five game strutch we've ever had. But

988
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: I think the changes he did make We're pretty meaningful.

989
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: I was reading I think it was an article by

990
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 4: Lance Bestowski covering how he Francis kind of changed up

991
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: his pitch mix and also added in a sinker. So

992
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 4: he's still going with that heavy fastball about fifty percent

993
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: of the time, but then he started throwing more splitters in,

994
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 4: and essentially what we've seen like splitters are basically like

995
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 4: the god pitch, Like if you throw a splitter, you're

996
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: probably going to do better than if you didn't throw

997
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 4: a splitter, And so he's kind of mixing in those

998
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 4: a lot more, adding that sinker to attack writing he's

999
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 4: a bit better, and also lessening that curveball usage. I

1000
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: guess we can kind of see what happened with Kakuchi

1001
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 4: as well. He was lowering his curveball usage in Toronto

1002
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: before he got traded to Houston, but then in Houston

1003
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 4: he kind of just completely stopped throwing his curveball, and

1004
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: now he's been one of the best pictures since the deadline.

1005
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: So I don't think there was anything really that the

1006
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: Jay's were doing, right. It seemed like they were understanding

1007
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 4: that during the curveball less was important and see through

1008
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: the trends of his usage throughout the month and going

1009
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: to Houston a better Pictures park. I think probably just

1010
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 4: amplified his kind of success. And he was definitely way

1011
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: unluckier this earlier this year. Like last year, he was

1012
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: fantastic in Toronto. This year he was good to start,

1013
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 4: and then June and July he kind of just faltered

1014
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 4: a bit and kind of just kind of right at

1015
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: the ship in after the tread deadline. But yeah, Francis,

1016
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 4: I really like him. It was fantastic to watch him

1017
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: through through August. That was a crazy run. I think

1018
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: he's pitching on Tuesday, and I am actually going to

1019
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 4: go to the game through my work. They got some

1020
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: free tickets. I'm going to watch Bounden. Francis hopefully pitched well.

1021
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: He pitched decently against Philadelphia yesterday. Seemed they got home runs,

1022
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: kind of bit him a bit. But I do like Francis,

1023
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: I'd say, other than like Gosman, he's like the best

1024
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 4: picture the Blue Jays have right now. Even then, Gosman

1025
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: hasn't really been too hot this year.

1026
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been super weird because for a while, team

1027
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: like the Blue Jays might have figured something out a

1028
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: little bit like they brought in Robbie Ray. Obviously we

1029
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: know what happened there when the cy young you brought

1030
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: in Jose Burrios, you guys turned him around when he

1031
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: came over in the second half, Kevin Gosman, you turned

1032
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: him around even like a guy like about in Francis

1033
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: right now, but then you've seen some dudes take some

1034
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: step back. It feels like as well, like Alec Manoa

1035
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: and Grant he's a totally different animal, but he just

1036
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: has not been able to even come close to the

1037
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: success he had in his first season up with Toronto,

1038
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: and it feels like they're not able to kind of

1039
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: push any of these guys through right now, like they've

1040
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: just hit a severe stop putting point where it comes

1041
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: to like talent and talent development. Do you think that's

1042
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: just because the players that have been coming up through

1043
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: the system, or just in general maybe the coaching is.

1044
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: Is there something that's sticking out to you as to

1045
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: why this might be happening.

1046
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 4: I know last year they just outperformed basically every metric,

1047
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: so I guess comparing it to last year, it could

1048
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 4: just be simple regression. The defense is still great, I

1049
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: guess after the defense kind of declined a bit since,

1050
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 4: like cure Myyer is not there anymore. But last year

1051
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 4: they were leading basically every defensive metric, every picture except

1052
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 4: Manoa basically was healthy. They piched like every they stayed

1053
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 4: healthy this year. Gosman missed the first few weeks of

1054
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: the year, basically had no spring training, which could definitely

1055
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: still be impacting him. Bassett, I think Bassett is just Bassett.

1056
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: I don't really have much else to say there. He's reliable,

1057
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: but again, I didn't think he was going to be

1058
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 4: all that, like top of the line starter, but he's

1059
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: a really good, like number three, number four guy. I

1060
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: think he's also pitching in the upcoming series, and I'm

1061
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: sure Mets fans are familiar familiar with him as well.

1062
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: He's he's I don't think he's missed the start in

1063
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 4: his career, which is absolutely fascinating, I think. But I

1064
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: think just what we're seeing now is probably closer to

1065
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 4: what they're kind of their outcome is. They're like fiftieth

1066
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: percentile outcome. They're just like low three high three era pitchers.

1067
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 4: Gosman was kind of unfortunate. I just think maybe he's

1068
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: just getting older now. Veloss he's kind of dipping. The

1069
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 4: pitch chips just aren't there. But hopefully something like Bouten Francis,

1070
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: they get Jake Bloss the Savage and whenever Ricky Tiedeman

1071
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 4: stays healthy gets up and hopefully they can have some

1072
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 4: I guess stronger rotation. But for now they're I'm not

1073
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: too confident in the rotation to do like super well,

1074
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: but I think I'm pretty okay just having the next

1075
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 4: year and kind of running it back, because I definitely

1076
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 4: do think this year, riddled by injuries and one of

1077
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: the worst bullpens in the league is definitely is not

1078
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 4: helping them out.

1079
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: With the Blue Jays, you say, you think probably running

1080
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: it back what gets them back to the playoffs? We'll

1081
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: puts the Blue Jays back in the mix, like how

1082
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: do they compete for the Al East? How do they

1083
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: get into a wildcard spot? What goes right for them

1084
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: that went wrong this year? They gets them there.

1085
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: I think this year it's just next year they just

1086
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: need a bullpen. I think next year like they can

1087
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: just keep the current team because since the All Star Break,

1088
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 4: they've been pretty effective. Their starters have been all right,

1089
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: the hitting has been much better, the bullpen. I'm not

1090
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: sure how Zach Pop is still on the team. Every

1091
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: time he pitches, he just gets blown up. It's unfortunate

1092
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 4: because he kind of grades out well in my model.

1093
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 4: I'm like, come up, please, this is the day, Please

1094
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 4: you can do it. But every time. I think there

1095
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 4: was one game they were up at like four and

1096
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: like and then they in the ninth inning and they lost,

1097
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: and like are you kidding me again? But yeah, so

1098
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: I think just next year they got to revamp, replace

1099
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 4: the bullpen with just something else. I don't know, it's

1100
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: just this whatever they have right now is not working.

1101
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 4: In terms of like manager the GM, I think you

1102
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 4: can keep them. I don't think they've really made too

1103
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: many terrible moves, bad moves. There were some moves that

1104
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: I weren't what did agree with, like signing Justin Turner

1105
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 4: like IKF. I guess they kind of got to win

1106
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: there because they were able to trade him away and

1107
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: he's been dreadful on Pittsburgh and he just looked at

1108
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 4: his numbers today, I think it's like a fifty four

1109
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 4: W I.

1110
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: Feel like an interesting minor league infield or two for

1111
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: that right, Remember.

1112
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: We got Mackadoo yeahs Mackado, right, so it's like, yeah, Like,

1113
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 4: I think they made decent trades at the deadline, especially

1114
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: the Kakuchi one. I felt like they got pretty good

1115
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 4: value out of that. The other trades were more more minor,

1116
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: which makes sense, like you're selling like a forty year

1117
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: old Justin Turner, You're probably not going to get much, yeah,

1118
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: Danny Jansen trade. Like, I think they were able to

1119
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: replenish their farm and they still got some good pieces back,

1120
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: like Joey lot Graffito Will Wagner. They're currently in the

1121
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 4: majors right now, so they could be hopefully be maybe

1122
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: an effective bench bad next year. So I think they

1123
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 4: have kind of those like role pieces to play in

1124
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: with a healthy lad, a healthy Bushett and hopefully Springer

1125
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 4: kind of turns it around a bit. I just think that.

1126
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: I think as right now, they could be like without

1127
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: that bullpen, like I think bullpens don't exist first act.

1128
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 4: I think they could be probably at least vying for

1129
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 4: a playoff spot at least next year, and just so

1130
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 4: other than that, it's not fun watching them this year,

1131
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: of course, but at least at least the young guys

1132
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 4: are up and they're actually giving them some some leeway

1133
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 4: and letting them, letting them perform.

1134
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went through a similar season last year with

1135
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: the Mets where it's just like, oh my god, this

1136
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 2: just has to end. Like everything went wrong. It's felt

1137
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: like everything that could have gone wrong did go wrong.

1138
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: It's just like get rid of every single piece you

1139
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: can have the deadline, bring anything you can back, and

1140
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: just almost like flush the pain. Like sometimes flushing the

1141
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: pain while still keeping some core and some leaders, you

1142
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: can still find a way to bounce back like the

1143
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: Mets have. But you mentioned Zach Pop and your model.

1144
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you about your model, your work, Twitter, everything.

1145
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: How did you decide to start making this baseball content

1146
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: because it happened you started. But I found you last

1147
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: season towards the middle last season. I remember because it

1148
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: was baseball and hockey. You know, this is interesting. We

1149
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: had really good graphics. I was like, oh, this is

1150
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: pretty cool. I remember telling Mark about you and like

1151
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: tracking your stuff, and I cited you a lot, especially

1152
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: with spring training stuff that we were doing on this show,

1153
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: because you had the great spring training stuff plus that

1154
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: wasn't that readily available. So what's your background this kind

1155
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: of data and modeling and how slash. Why did you

1156
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: start making baseball content?

1157
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm I'm a civil engineer by trade, So

1158
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: I always loved maths and sciences, and even like when

1159
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 4: I was younger in high school, I just play around

1160
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: in like Microsoft Excel to just make little graphs, like

1161
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: at tables and graphs. I just found it fun. I

1162
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: used to play hockey when I was younger. I love

1163
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: watching baseball. My dad love watching baseball. He I vividly

1164
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: remember watching on the VHS tape the ninety two and

1165
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 4: ninety three Bold series, like we just sit down and

1166
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: watch it together, and I just I just remember that

1167
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 4: It's like wow, and I loved it. And then I

1168
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: guess as I went through my university studies, I kind

1169
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: of kind of picked up more on data science, data

1170
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 4: analytics and coding as well, so taking a few courses

1171
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: in that, and I was like, Okay, I'm I'm interested

1172
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 4: in hockey. I'm interested in the math, the science behind

1173
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 4: all the analytics, and and now I have kind of

1174
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 4: this coding background, let's kind of go at it. I

1175
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: actually kind of started with hockey really just fantasy hockey.

1176
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 4: So make again, making those like kind of player cards

1177
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 4: projections in that realm there, and then it wasn't until

1178
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: kind of last year, I guess the start of the

1179
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three MB season, I started moving towards baseball data.

1180
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 4: I kind of always had an interest in it, like

1181
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: I would always like peruse Baseball Savant, but I wasn't

1182
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 4: really diving deep into like the pitch the play by

1183
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: play or the pitch by pitch data sets. But I'm like, okay,

1184
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: let's take a look at this and well and behold,

1185
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 4: I just gravitated towards it. I'm grabbed on to basically

1186
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 4: like all the data I could looking at baseball sapon us,

1187
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: like PI baseball fangraphs, and I guess working towards and

1188
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 4: kind of developing my skills and producing graphics which I

1189
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: think are both nice to look at and also very informative.

1190
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: And it's kind of where I came from and what

1191
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: I continue to do. And I lately I've been kind

1192
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 4: of publishing my work like publicly so other people can

1193
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: take a look at it and also play around with

1194
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 4: it themselves, because I don't think I have the best work,

1195
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: and my coding probably isn't the most efficient, so maybe

1196
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 4: others could take a look at it and maybe help

1197
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 4: out and give me some advice. And I definitely learned

1198
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 4: a lot from others I guess in the space, and

1199
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: they're all all very helpful. It's it's actually amazing how

1200
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 4: helpful and how open the community is just to like

1201
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: support others, like how supportive is for everyone, and it

1202
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 4: seems like no one's pretty much like no one's like

1203
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: stepping on each other's toes or trying to like shutt

1204
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 4: anyone down, and just feels like someone has something cool,

1205
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: they'll just like echo it around and everyone will hear

1206
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 4: about it sooner or later. And I think that's just

1207
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 4: really awesome.

1208
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: Again, if you guys don't know, James said it one

1209
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: hundred times on the show, But at TJ Stats on Twitter,

1210
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: that's where you can find his stuff. Tom's you're eventually,

1211
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you want to get into like working in

1212
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: a front office at some point. Is that the ultimate

1213
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: goal of doing this or is this just simply like

1214
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: I love baseball, I love the stats, all of all

1215
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: his data. I'm just gonna do this for fun.

1216
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 4: Basically when I started, that was the goal, Like working

1217
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: with a front office team. I've had actually like interviews

1218
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 4: with front offices. I've had teams reach out to me

1219
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 4: as well, sometimes not related to a position, but mostly

1220
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: just to get to know me more, which is always

1221
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 4: cool to see pick you like a consultant for But yeah,

1222
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 4: but other than that, like yeah, it's like that would

1223
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 4: be something that I am interested in. It's now weighing

1224
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 4: is it worth me, worth it for me to to

1225
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: go work with the front office because I do like

1226
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: the work I do on Twitter. I didn't I at

1227
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 4: the start of the year, I had four thousand followers

1228
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: and now I'm at twenty five thousand. I'm like, oh

1229
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 4: wow with that, and people know me, people reference me

1230
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: and you. Yeah, so I'm I'm like this, this is cool. Well,

1231
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: people know me, I hopefully for the for good reasons.

1232
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 4: I know lately there might be some anger Yankees fans here,

1233
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 4: possibility there.

1234
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Now.

1235
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 4: That was a whole, different whole.

1236
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 2: Different pieces there that backstory for people. Thomas again loves data,

1237
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: loves the granular aspects of baseball. Something amazing that Baseball

1238
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: savant does is every single ball that gets put in play,

1239
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: they put a catch probability on it, and with that,

1240
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 2: sometimes our eyes can deceive us watching baseball. We've learned

1241
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: that over the years is more stats come out, things

1242
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: like WRC plus ohaa. We see that things that we

1243
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: see sometimes not exactly how things are in a baseball field.

1244
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: For some people that's kind of hard to grasp that

1245
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: kind of takes shots at like their own. I don't

1246
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 2: know the things in their heart, the things in their mind,

1247
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: the things in their soul. So Thomas had a thing

1248
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: for a while which you did, I believe fully innocently

1249
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: and innocuously, where you would take a diving catch, like

1250
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: a jumping play, and you would just repost the baseball

1251
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: to my catch probability. And there was the one play

1252
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 2: I believe the Saddan Rafaela, where he made a leaping

1253
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: catch against the wall in the outfield and it was

1254
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: probably a ball that most centerfielders catch, just he took

1255
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: a weird route to it. He took a weird jump

1256
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: they might not need to take, so it looked amazing.

1257
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: Thomas said it had like something like a ninety percent

1258
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 2: catch probability, and that insinuated a firestorm of Red Sox

1259
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: fans and old baseball lifers into his mentions.

1260
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: And Jankowski to Jankowski, robbin it home run the other night,

1261
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: like catch probability, and people were like, I'm gonna freak out,

1262
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm going crazy. Like I think now you're probably playing

1263
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: into it a little bit more than it originally was,

1264
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: right because it's got it's gotta be. I mean, I

1265
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: love doing it. I'm sure you got a little bit

1266
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: of a taste of really, this is fun to get

1267
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: some people riled up.

1268
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was when I did the Seday in Rafaela,

1269
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 4: and that one definitely innocomously. I didn't think it was

1270
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: gonna rall anyone up. It's it's just what it said.

1271
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: And even the people from Baseball Savon, Mike Pictrailo, Tom Tango,

1272
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 4: they were chiming in. They're like this, yeah, he ran

1273
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 4: like like the crazy like a loop, like what why

1274
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 4: is he doing that? Red Sox fans were like, just

1275
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: enjoy the play, And I enjoyed it. I thought it

1276
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 4: was a really nice catch. It's just it just I

1277
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 4: play any center fielder would typically make, so they kind

1278
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 4: of take it as shots to get themselves. And then

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Speaker 4: I think the one that I definitely knew was probably

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Speaker 4: going to cause a bit more of a ruckus was

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Speaker 4: that Aaron Judge robbing the home run. I kind of

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00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 4: knew what I was doing there, but also, it's just

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Speaker 4: a number. I shared the number. I didn't share any

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Speaker 4: any opinion about it. I shared the number. I shared

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Speaker 4: the graph the source. Uh, and that caused everyone to

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00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 4: now hate catch probability. Now that's I'm sorry, Baseball savant.

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00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 4: If I ruined years of work, you've kind of built

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Speaker 4: up a bonnit. But but yeah, it's it's it's a

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Speaker 4: cool metric specifically for that Aaron Judge play any pretty

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Speaker 4: much any home run robbery. The model probably isn't going

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Speaker 4: to do that well because the model doesn't can't accurately

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Speaker 4: locate the pitch to the nearest inch the ball to

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00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 4: the nearest inch, And that's pretty much what you have

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Speaker 4: to do when you're like looking at timing of a

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00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 4: jump and a play like that. So it's basically just

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Speaker 4: saying the ball out a wall is caught like ninety

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Speaker 4: five percent of the time, without considering like the timing

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Speaker 4: aspect of it. I also think people kind of underestimate

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Speaker 4: how I guess. Then it's like are like under assuming

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00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 4: like how easy it is to catch a ball, or

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00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: like like rob a home run, like sometimes it looks

1302
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 4: really cool, but I think most center fielders are trained

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00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: to kind of catch those balls, So maybe it's not

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00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 4: ninety percent. Maybe it's closer to like seventy five sixty percent,

1305
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 4: But I don't think it's like zero, like people are

1306
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 4: like it's a five percent chance. I'm like, I see

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00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: Dalton Varshield make this play once a week. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think I think other players have the capability of doing this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the people that are in in center field the

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Speaker 2: major league baseball field. I think people forgether and like

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Speaker 2: the ninety nine point nine to nine nine percent tile

1312
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Speaker 2: of being able to track a fly ball with like

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Speaker 2: with their eyes and get to that spot with their likes.

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Speaker 2: They're just they're that good. But I also think you

1315
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: mentioned that, like you were sorry, like to the Baseball savon,

1316
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: but you did that great thread right after this whole

1317
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: firestorm where you did like step by step how catch

1318
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: probability is calculated. And then you have the people who

1319
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: literally created the stat Tom Tango Mike Petriello quote tweeting

1320
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: you and replying to you like this is amazing work,

1321
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 2: Like that has to be pretty. That speech is such

1322
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: like a warming feeling to you that these people made

1323
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: the stat you're explaining the stat and they're like, you

1324
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 2: just did this really well, thank you so much.

1325
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I find that to be. That was the one

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00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 4: of the best feelings I guess when I went on Twitter,

1327
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 4: like of course, like players message you, mee Man and Juice,

1328
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 4: coaches all that stuff, and just interacting with the scene

1329
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: is is uh, definitely great. But again, when you have

1330
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 4: people like Tom Tango Mike Petrella who create these metrics

1331
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,959
Speaker 4: shit and metrics, and like they're like, they're the reason

1332
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 4: why baseball samon exists. Basically, they're telling me that thank you,

1333
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 4: this was good, thank you for doing this, Like I

1334
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 4: agree with all your points. And Tom he's very active

1335
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: on Twitter, and he he just loves baseball, loves statistics.

1336
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes he's a little harsh coming off of it, but

1337
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 4: I think it's just more of his more of his nature.

1338
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 4: I don't think he means in any any anything negative.

1339
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 4: It's just more like getting I guess, his opinion and

1340
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 4: just sharing his thoughts on things. But yeah, he's super helpful.

1341
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 4: He's very kind as well. It's just again, it's it's

1342
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 4: a very definitely great feeling when the people that kind

1343
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 4: of I look up to a bit kind of tell

1344
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 4: me that this is this is good work.

1345
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: Now you said you've had some players and maybe even

1346
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: teams reach out to you. Is is there any player

1347
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: that you can mention does reached out to that you

1348
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: were particularly like taken back by?

1349
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 4: It was actually like even this is like in spring training, Uh,

1350
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 4: Tarik Schooball reached out to me, which I was I

1351
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 4: was shocked. I was like, what, oh my god, because

1352
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: he was wondering I shared one of the summer pitching summaries. Uh,

1353
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 4: and he just had like I have a question about it,

1354
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: and they asked me of my model and I sent

1355
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: him the article I wrote on it, and I was like,

1356
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: oh my goodness, what the heck?

1357
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1358
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 4: And now he won the side. So is there a correlation?

1359
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: Maybe you got you get into closing credits for t Schoo.

1360
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 4: So he's I think he's very into stuff like like

1361
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 4: I guess, like pitch model and stuff like that. He's

1362
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 4: talked Lance Bezdowski. I think he was at the All

1363
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 4: Star Game. But like a lot of different pictures, I've

1364
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 4: had someone It wasn't directly, but someone mentioned to me

1365
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 4: that Garrett Cole like sees my stuff and uses my

1366
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 4: stuff too, which is sick. Another cy young winner. I

1367
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 4: don't I don't follow me. You might win a It's

1368
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: like that's the whole story here. But yeah, I have

1369
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: a few other like Jeff Pop and follows me, like

1370
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 4: like Tyler Zueber as well. For he got traded to

1371
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 4: the Mets. He was on Tampa Bay. He messaged me,

1372
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 4: asked me. Yeah, So like they messaged me and like see,

1373
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 4: like they're just ask me questions and when I bounce

1374
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 4: stuff up and it's just cool to see. So they're

1375
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 4: they're just interested in picturing models like they want to improve,

1376
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 4: and that's one way to do it is looking at

1377
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: the analytics. And I think a lot of like old

1378
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: time baseball fans don't kind of understand that, like numbers

1379
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 4: are just information, Like analytics is just telling you, like

1380
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 4: what you can improve on. And these pictures just all

1381
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 4: they want to do is is improve and do better

1382
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 4: and perform well. And and they're doing it for the fans.

1383
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Speaker 4: So I don't know why the fans would be upset

1384
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 4: at that.

1385
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a I just think what you do, you

1386
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: do it so well. Just to give you a lot

1387
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: of credit for a second, again, guys TJ stats basically

1388
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: every single pitch I think pitcher, the pitches every single

1389
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: day and the smathering of believers. Thomas will have this

1390
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: beautiful daily pitching summary for them where he shows where

1391
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: they pitched lefties, where they pitched Righty's graph with an

1392
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: X and Y axis that shows the movement every single

1393
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: pitch and then every single piece of day that you

1394
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: could possibly need for every single pitch on the bottom,

1395
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: including it's IVB, it's horizontal break, it spins, r PM's

1396
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: the extension they had on the pitch, and then his

1397
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 2: own stuff plus on it. So with your own model

1398
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: you mentioned before, just maybe the last one, then we'll

1399
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: do a few things about the Mets and let you

1400
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: go here. But is there anything that you think, any

1401
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: particular pitcher, any particular pitch that you think you've tried

1402
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: to calibrate your model and just can't get this guy

1403
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: this pitch, this like seven pitches the way you want

1404
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: it to.

1405
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 4: The big one is definitely Chris Sale. He has like

1406
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 4: his pitch shapes, armed the most I guess crazy, like

1407
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 4: the most, like elite as you would say, but his

1408
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 4: delivery the way he like he's gonna win the NL

1409
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 4: sight on this year, Like, I don't even I'm not

1410
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 4: even gonna question that unless like a Wheeler throws like

1411
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 4: three perfect games in a row or something. But Chris

1412
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: Chris Sail, that would be insane Baseball Championship, hands down,

1413
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: that happens. But so like Chris Sale, his delivery is

1414
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 4: just it's just hard to capture because we don't have

1415
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 4: in the public data. We don't have like arm angles,

1416
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 4: we can't accurately. We have to estimate them. And again,

1417
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 4: some pictures, like as an example, Tyler Rogers, he has

1418
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: that submarine release, but he also like torks his body

1419
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 4: and rotates it like like crazy, like his whole body

1420
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 4: just like contorts in a way like you. This pictures

1421
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 4: don't move like this, so like and Chris Sale is

1422
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 4: sort of like that, Like his body is just kind

1423
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 4: of weird when he pitches, like the way his arm

1424
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 4: his arm slot, I was, whole body just like you

1425
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: kind of whips the ball basically, So kind of it's

1426
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 4: just difficult to capture Logan Gilbert. It's more this Logan

1427
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Speaker 4: Gill was more of just like a super outlier. He

1428
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 4: has some crazy extension as pitches, and I do want

1429
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Speaker 4: I'm definitely going to tinker my model in the trying

1430
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 4: to figure out how to manage something like these crazy

1431
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 4: outliers Logan Gilbert has like almost eight feet of extension,

1432
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 4: which like, and he just like added an extra few

1433
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 4: inches this year too, So I'm like, what's like the

1434
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 4: model is basically saying, I've never seen this before. I

1435
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 4: don't like it. We're just gonna give it, like sometimes

1436
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: it gives them a good grade and sometimes not. It's

1437
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 4: more just like understanding like what the model is telling

1438
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 4: you and kind of using that in the analysis. Because

1439
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Speaker 4: I know Chris Sale is one of the best pictures

1440
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: in baseball. My model doesn't say that, but I know

1441
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: it's And I try and explain to others why Chris

1442
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 4: Sale isn't grading out well, or other people would say,

1443
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 4: like why is show to Monica he just threw no

1444
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 4: hitter yesterday. Why is his model or why is his

1445
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 4: Are his grades not that great? He is a low

1446
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 4: velocity picture. He also has kind of a low release point.

1447
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 4: And again there's all these different factors which are difficult

1448
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 4: to capture in a stuff model just using the pitcher's

1449
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 4: movement and even the release point, but you can't really

1450
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 4: add in that deception factor, which is definitely one thing

1451
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,959
Speaker 4: that I know, Like you know, sarahs has talked about

1452
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 4: it a lot at Lance Bestowski. Kind of it's just

1453
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 4: hard to quantify it. Like as a batter, you can

1454
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 4: kind of understand deception, like you can see how the

1455
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 4: picture's armstot changes are, like how long, like how long

1456
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 4: it takes the picture to release the ball. But on

1457
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 4: the granular level, with the data we have in the

1458
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 4: public sense on Baseball Savant, we don't have kind of

1459
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 4: like their arm length. They guess their pitching arm length.

1460
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 4: They're kind of like the same thing as the swing

1461
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: length for batters.

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Speaker 2: We almost don't even have any player in baseball's actual size,

1463
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Speaker 2: like they're height and weight, because I love that a

1464
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: lot of these guys, especially the ones who come from

1465
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: the International signing period. These guys are measured when they're

1466
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: sixteen years old, and you have players Brian Brisio debuted

1467
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: last year. I think I think Baseball Reference said he

1468
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: was one hundred and ninety pounds or a hundred way less.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a listen on sixty sixty, which

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Speaker 1: is the same amount that I weighed at the time.

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Speaker 1: And then Oswaldo Brer when he came for the Yankees

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Speaker 1: was just at one thirty five. I'm like, there's no

1473
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: way I have thirty five pounds on this dude. There's

1474
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Speaker 1: not a shot. He's a professional baseball player who's taller

1475
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: than me. There's no way. So it's it is funny

1476
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: to see like and just talking to guys too, they're like, oh, yay,

1477
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: no one, we fill in the papers whatever we want,

1478
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: Like it's if they ask us, I'll tell them. But

1479
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: no one's coming in and checking your height, checking your

1480
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: weight kind of thing.

1481
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Speaker 2: And it's just funny to think about the butterfly effect

1482
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: of all this data becoming public, the public becoming much

1483
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: more skilled with accessing and then applying the data, and

1484
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: someone like you has this very public pitch model, twenty

1485
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: five thousand followers on Twitter, players reaching out to you,

1486
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: and like the trickle down from MLB not updating their

1487
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: sizes of players on their database gets back to your

1488
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: model not being able to properly assess extension on the

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Speaker 2: picture and how that will affect the white pitches are perceived.

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01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: It's just that's funny. That's a really funny thing. But transition,

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Speaker 2: last few minutes here we'll talk about the Mets a

1492
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: little bit. I told you get ready to bring some

1493
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: Mets stuff for me. Do you have any weld pitching, nuggets,

1494
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: minor league, major league bullpen, starting pitchers, anything fun for

1495
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: Mets fans to hear about. Any pitchers in New York.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think Paul Blackburn has come back this week. Yeah,

1497
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 4: and his triple A outings were decent. Yeah at one point, Yeah,

1498
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 4: picked six and two thirds innings. Looks like he's throwing

1499
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 4: the cutter more kind of as he was doing as

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Speaker 4: he after he got traded. So I'm kind of interested

1501
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 4: to see how he does when he gets back his

1502
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 4: first I guess when he was with the Mets for

1503
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 4: the first part, he wasn't the greatest greatest outings, but

1504
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 4: hopefully he can be a serviceable four fifth starter for them.

1505
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 4: I know Juana Tong, he's been child. He just got

1506
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 4: to promote a double A, which is very fascinating, really good.

1507
01:03:55,680 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 4: His fastball is amazing, Like I wish I had all

1508
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 4: the minor league data on, only have his singling data,

1509
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 4: and he just was so good in single A that

1510
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 4: they're like, screw it, bring you up the high right away.

1511
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 4: I think he was like twenty innings or so. In

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01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 4: single A he's striking out like fifty percent of the

1513
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 4: guys or whatever.

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01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: He might still be twenty years old at the time

1515
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 2: of that promotion too, and maybe just turned twenty one

1516
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: or something like that.

1517
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so him again showing like him being a twenty

1518
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 4: one year old in double A, kind of showing that

1519
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 4: fast track, which is always encouraging to see for pictures

1520
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 4: and any really, any prospect really, a few other pictures

1521
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 4: kind of just made their Mets debut. Single A was

1522
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 4: Will Watson and then Brendan Brendan Gurdon. I think that's

1523
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 4: how Watson he's looking, all right. I got some data

1524
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 4: on him here in ninety five milur fastball seventy a

1525
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 4: inch IVB, a pretty low release slot. So the data

1526
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 4: on the fastball looks pretty encouraging. Again, just as he

1527
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 4: gets more pitches, will be more. The bludger is a

1528
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 4: sample the better, but from what it is, Will Watson

1529
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 4: seems to be a pretty pretty good pickup for them,

1530
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 4: And honest was a seventh round pick, I think so. Honestly,

1531
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 4: if you're getting a picture that's already producing well and

1532
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 4: has good data to back it, up in the seventh round.

1533
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 4: Why not. I think Mets fans should be should be

1534
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 4: excited about that. And then Brenda Gourdon tenth round pick.

1535
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 4: His pitch data looks even better than Will Watson's, which

1536
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 4: which is also very encouraging to see. Again, I think

1537
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 4: I just love how the Florida State League has to

1538
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 4: that cast. I know from what I know what I've

1539
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 4: heard is because they were testing I guess the a

1540
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 4: BS system that they're doing testing in the Florida State

1541
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 4: League and they're also doing testing in tripale A. So

1542
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 4: hopefully his fingers crossed that if they apply, and they

1543
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 4: should definitely do it. Add the a BS system or

1544
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 4: some type of spalls and strike system in MLB. It's

1545
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 4: just gonna have to trickle down and every single minor

1546
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 4: league team has to have it too, just because they're

1547
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 4: going to have to develop and throughout their career and

1548
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 4: use it. And I guess they'll probably also do testing.

1549
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 4: They all all always start in the minor leagues and

1550
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 4: then apply to the majors. So hopefully soon, I'm not

1551
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 4: sure when all the minor league team leagues will have

1552
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 4: have this one thing that would be really cool if

1553
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 4: the the half season or the short season ones like

1554
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 4: the summer leagues have have have this too, but that's

1555
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 4: more like that's like the backfield.

1556
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 2: That would be like the Oppenheimer meme too, because and

1557
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 2: we'll just know too many things about like sixteen year

1558
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: old kids and be like this is we can't them. Yeah, don't.

1559
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to know every single guys one hundred

1560
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: twelve mile and hours of velocity. I just and I

1561
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: won't be able to happy with anything that happens. But

1562
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: that's a it's a fun world to be. I know

1563
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: a friend of the friend of our podcast, Isaac Groffman,

1564
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: he goes to school in Binghamton. He said he's going

1565
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: to the tong debut that's going to be tonight recording

1566
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 2: on Thursday. He's trying every single pitch by hands. He

1567
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: told me, we'll get me that stuff. So maybe maybe

1568
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: I'll send it over to you see if we can

1569
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: put some put some data on it. But I think

1570
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 2: that's all we got.

1571
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, more question. Yeah, I saw on your Twitter large

1572
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: Pokemon nerd, who's your favorite Pokemon? Not from the original

1573
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 1: one fifty one?

1574
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 4: Oh? I actually have let me grab it all right,

1575
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 4: from a freaking Pokemon guy here. Last year or two

1576
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 4: years ago, my friend got me this thing. It's it

1577
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 4: is well, unless you can see it. It is like

1578
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 4: a glass pokeball that is crow bat inside. Oh, unless

1579
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 4: you you can see the crow bat. But that is

1580
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 4: my favorite. Is definitely my favorite. He is not part

1581
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 4: of the one fifty one, is an evolution of him

1582
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 4: from the one fifty Well, crow Bat is my favorite overall.

1583
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 4: I'd say a close second would be like Lapraskay, who

1584
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 4: is from the one fifty one. My favorite starter is

1585
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 4: Snivey Whoa and just I have a bunch of Pokemon

1586
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 4: plushes in my room. I like collecting them. So yeah,

1587
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 4: just a big Pokemon fan. Maybe I'll tweet more about Pokemon.

1588
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 2: And that's that's next hockey, baseball Pokemon And now, yeah,

1589
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: I need some giraft rick stats.

1590
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: That's my boy. That's my number one guy.

1591
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: Of course, because this giraffe. I sent Mark a day

1592
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 2: the visualation visualization from Jacob st l the other day

1593
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: about how our mangle stuff affects them I think affects

1594
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: IVB on fastballs, and the visualization looked just like a

1595
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 2: magic card to you after this, because it looks it

1596
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: looks exactly was like, that's man. I think it was

1597
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: a little late at nights. I was like, you know,

1598
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: having some fun. But I was like, this is this

1599
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: is magic car. I but I can't believe this magic car.

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01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: But it was.

1601
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: That was a good closer. Next question, good closer. Yeah,

1602
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 2: thank you, Thank you a lot. Tell everyone where to

1603
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: find you again. Plug your stuff.

1604
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 4: You can find me on Twitter at a TJ stats.

1605
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 4: I have a Patreon where you can access a bunch

1606
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 4: of cool web apps I've made, so basically everything I

1607
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 4: share on Twitter on my feed is generated through those apps,

1608
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 4: and if you guys are interested in fantasy hockey, I

1609
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 4: will likely post a bit a bit bit there. I

1610
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 4: was considering even making a second account because now my

1611
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 4: account's basically all baseball. But if you're interested in fantasy

1612
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 4: hockey stuff too, you can follow me on Twitter, support

1613
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 4: me on Patreon. I'll be hopefully continuing modeling stuff and

1614
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: sharing more work and more articles. I definitely want to

1615
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 4: get more more data and more stuff out there and

1616
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 4: just share knowledge with others, including just like supporting the

1617
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 4: community because I guess lately I've been kind of like

1618
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 4: echoing other people's work.

1619
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: And you're good to a stress it Yeah, so I've

1620
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: I've I really enjoyed it.

1621
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 4: It was great being on the show today.

1622
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Thank you again. Everyone. Make sure you

1623
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: follow Thomas at TJ stats. Truthfully, probably right now the

1624
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: best account on baseball Twitter. Makes baseball Twitter a better place.

1625
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: Excited to keep having access to your data until you

1626
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 2: eventually work in the front office. So we're happy to

1627
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 2: have you while we got you. Thanks again, dude, Thank

1628
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: you very much. All right, picture out of the Thomas

1629
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: very dense, thorough preview of the Blue Jays. Also, he's

1630
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: just he's what, He's a hell of a guy, and

1631
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: his Twitter count's amazing. Again at TJ Stats, you guys

1632
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 2: should be following him pitching recaps every single day that

1633
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: literal major League Baseball players are paying attention to, which

1634
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: he said that Mark your eyes bugged out of your head.

1635
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 2: You're like, what players? What players?

1636
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: What players' players ask you that, and then you go

1637
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: Terry scoopb and Garrett Cole, We're like, are you fucking

1638
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: the back to back defending Alcy Young winners your pitch?

1639
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: Imagine? I'm happy for Thomas following him for a while

1640
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: and he's just such a good dude. He's so so

1641
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: fucking nice, like he's such a good person. I love

1642
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: that he's doing having the success.

1643
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: I forget when McNeil dmknew when I tweeted out like

1644
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago about what he was doing

1645
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: hitting differently, and he was like, you figured it out, man,

1646
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: thank you. When I was like, oh my god, I

1647
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: can't imagine.

1648
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 2: That was og mets up story. That was like our

1649
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: fourth ever episode.

1650
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and big deal is like you fixed my hitting,

1651
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: thank you. And I'm like, wow, he's fixing terror scooplo

1652
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 1: and Garrett Cole. Now there's a fixing that we had.

1653
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: But that's pretty cool. You got a little media marvel though,

1654
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: you said.

1655
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, little media marvel again for the new listeners here. Usually,

1656
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: how we structure this podcast the past things are going

1657
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: to change the future once we get this new episode

1658
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 2: structure now, but the midweek episode, we would do a

1659
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: prospect report where we kind of run you guys down

1660
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 2: the Mets minor leaguers, tell you who's doing good, who's

1661
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: doing bad, just like a dense a dense overhaul overhaul.

1662
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: That's not the word overview, overview, that's overview. There you

1663
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: go and then like about every two months, we'll drop

1664
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 2: our own top ten, top twenty, top thirty prospects. A

1665
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 2: couple of those are on YouTube channel or and back

1666
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: of this podcast. You guys want to search backs. Roll

1667
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: back a little bit listening. Think about a month of

1668
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: our top twenty five prospects. Really good listen. But the

1669
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: weekends we do media marvels where we just shot someone

1670
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 2: out in the media a lot of times baseball media,

1671
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: just for a take that they had or something that

1672
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 2: was said here and there back in the day. I

1673
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: have one, just a quick one I want to do

1674
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: from from everyone's favorite radio host Salakata, saying he saw

1675
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: enough of Mark Viento's there's no reason this guy should

1676
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: be getting regular at for this team. That was from January,

1677
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 2: So again, shout us out for that take.

1678
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,480
Speaker 1: Good. He tweeted that in January.

1679
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: January I sent it to you. I have the exact

1680
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 2: tweet somewhere.

1681
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: What did he see in January that he'd seen enough?

1682
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: Well from from the last few years. You know, someone

1683
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: someone dmpts me. I lost. I thought I was book Mark.

1684
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: He was like, let me say something crazy.

1685
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, something like that again. But it's just yeah,

1686
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: that's why we have this segment medium Marvels just to

1687
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: keep people in the media on track here a little bit.

1688
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: But I want to go to football for this because

1689
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: it was a football weekend Sunday. It was the first

1690
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: first all day football two seconds of football here, guys,

1691
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: first day event for football, Mark Scott's Commanders, Jersey On, Shylaw,

1692
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 2: Ja and Daniels. Pretty good debut. I'm gwallowing for my

1693
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: Jets tomorrow night. I don't know what to expect. I

1694
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: don't know what the thing. I'm sad. I can't It's

1695
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: the worst relationship of my life. They're gonna hurt me again.

1696
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 2: I just can't wait for it to happen. They're gonna

1697
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: get me excited again, then absolutely kill me, put me

1698
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: in the dirt. But we'll talk about Tom Brady for

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Speaker 2: two seconds. He made his announcing debut. What two hundred

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01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: three hundred million dollar contracts with Fox Out. They were

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 2: calling a game and I got to say, pretty underwhelming

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: from from Tommy boy over there for on the call.

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: I think you could definitely tell it was his first

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Speaker 1: time on the mic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, Hard so Hard. I did Hardy's high

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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: school game a few years ago and my Buddy Reid

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01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 2: in Ohio where he was doing the color and I

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01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 2: was gonna do some analysis. So hard to do like color,

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01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: play by play anything during a game. All right, I

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01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: give everyone credit a lot for this shoutow boy Matt

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01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: because of match Keith Radd but hopefully listen to this,

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Speaker 2: but announcing is hard. Tom Brady, I'll say it right now,

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 2: he wasn't very good. I think it's a good chance

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01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: he gets a little bit better. But that was the

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01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 2: game sucked too.

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Speaker 1: It was boring.

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01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 2: His hellpor Kashawn Watson terrible with a piece of shit.

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: Hate that guy to the death. But Tom Brady stuck.

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady very bad. They're one of the worst contracts

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Speaker 2: in football.

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Speaker 1: Who could be the worst contract football? I like that take.

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01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: I like that all right. And James is also salty

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01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: because Brady's the goat Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I respect Tom Brady, but I spent my entire youth

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01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: watching Tom Brady just I decimate the Jets. He got

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01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: so far past the point of the Jets where I look.

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: I never I didn't care anymore about him being the

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01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 2: Jets because it was such different sports they were playing.

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Speaker 2: But I think everyone just taught thoughts Tim Brady was

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Speaker 2: gonna waltz in there and be elite, and he really wasn't.

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01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: Also shot out boy Kevin Burkhar on the call.

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Speaker 1: With him, show out KB the legend. All right. We

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Speaker 1: got a couple of reviews to read from you guys

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Speaker 1: here as we wrap up the episode again, new people

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Speaker 1: that are coming in from Foul Territory Network and everything.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. At the end of the episode we read

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Speaker 1: out reviews that you guys leave on Apple Podcasts. It's

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01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 1: just a little shout out for giving us a review

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,440
Speaker 1: and helping support the podcast. This one comes from Antonio

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01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: Zinga Ropoli. That's a really Italian last name. All right,

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01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: amazing show plus Hi Mark and James five stars Hi

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01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: Mark and James Antonio z from Staten Island here. Don't worry,

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01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those annoying Staten Island fans. Been

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01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: watching Mark since the Mob the show days of twenty

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01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: seventeen and be watching this show from the very near

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: beginning as well. I look forward to the YouTube format

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01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: video dropping after every single series conclusion. Love the realism

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01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: and takes on the team as sometimes I get ahead

1749
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 1: of myself and believe too hard, so I need you

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01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: guys to bring me back a bit. James Hernalysis is

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01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: great and I think you'd be just as successful for

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01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: a YouTuber as Mark Relax if you put your analysis

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01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 1: to video form.

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01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: I don't think I can compare jerseys like Mark does

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01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 2: you do quizes. I'm not I'm not there.

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01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm the best, That's what it is. Mark loved the videos,

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01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: especially the Buyer Cell. Love the show. I've been watching

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01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: for a long time and we'll be watching for a

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01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: long time. Anyways. Who's Alice talking to you guys, and

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: I hope you have a great day. Azy, Thank you,

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01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: an Tonio, thank you.

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01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 2: I got another one here from Rex OMG l GM

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01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: two point zero, leaving another review as my first one

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01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: got skipped.

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01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: I don't think we skipped any reviews. I really think

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01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: we're on top of this stuff. It's a little sometimes, Yeah,

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01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: you know something, Apple, we don't know. But I'm jazz

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01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: about the Mets winning sem Astray as I was after

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01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 2: they beat the pants off the Yanks back in July.

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01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: I listen to every episode. I especially forward to the

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01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: ones after series like this one. I shifted through several

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01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 2: mess podcasts after my favorite one went down, dark and

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01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: messed Up was far and away my favorite. I still

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01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 2: enjoyed that when it was a company podcast, which we're back.

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01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: I love the new found freedom the boys have now

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01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: their independence. A transplant to Denver, Yeah not but no,

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 2: we're ready to rumblow. You'll pump about Foul Territory, the

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01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: transplant to Denver. The pod keeps me up on what's

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: going on in Queens and how the farm systems looking.

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01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 2: Keep up the good work and the swearing Thank you,

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01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 2: thank you, Rex. It's fun great ps, funny story. Until

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01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: I started following Mark on Twitter, I thought he signed

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01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: off saying his handle was draft Nick Mark and a

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01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 2: shout out to his affinity for the MLB draft.

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: Lol, that's kind of funny. Interesting, I guess I do

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01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: say like draft, probably like if you're a draft from here,

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01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: draft draft. Yeah, I thought about that, all right, New

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01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: York accent. There you go, authentic, authentic. And that's it

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01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: for our first episode being a part of the Foul

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01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: Territory Network again. Super excited to bring you guys even

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01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: more content than we have been. Keep an eye out,

1793
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 1: make sure you follow us on all our social media

1794
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 1: at metstup on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. Subscribe to the

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01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: met Stuff podcast YouTube channel so you can see the

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01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: video version of this. If you are listening Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google,

1797
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: drop us a rating, drop us a review, and most importantly,

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01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: don't forget to download and subscribe you Apple subscribe. I

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: better see those Apple members going up over there. All right,

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01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. Yeah, Apple has been slacked.

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01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. Follow James on Twitter at

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01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: James Underscore and I am draft neck Mark and that's

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01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: Mark with the C the only right way.

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:02,799
Speaker 2: To spot and well more of course Frankie Peppers, Frankie Peppers.

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01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Frankie Peppers forgot again for the new listeners.

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01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: This is gonna be bizarre, but we have we have

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01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: one of our most most loyal listeners, Frankie Peppers. We

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01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: did a voicemail episode a few months back and he

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01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 2: just left such an electric voicemail. We beckoned to him

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01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: on the show to leave as many voicemails he felt

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01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 2: comfortable with. And we have an official update on the

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01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: Red series from our boy, Frankie Peppers. So here's Frankie.

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Speaker 3: Hello, gentlemen, this is Frankie Pepper, say you don't. James

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01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 3: was very nice to meet you yesterday at City Field.

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01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 3: I'm glad that we could spend some time together. Like

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01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 3: I've said, I really really appreciate you letting me, you know,

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01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 3: call in, said James to Graham's here.

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01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: So I'm at a non profit event.

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01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 3: If you couldn't hear in the background, and I ran

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01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 3: into ran into one, mister Colin co cell Pa announce

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01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 3: it for the Mets. A Hi Colin, Hey I am

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01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 3: I'm doing okay. How about you? I mean I was

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01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 3: doing better until Are you the reason the Mets loss today?

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01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 2: No, it was yesterday they won, so all right, Well,

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 2: good to see you and let's go Max.

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01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: Let's go match.

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01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: I think Colin, because he wasn't at the park, I

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01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 3: think Colin is actually the reason we lost today. But

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01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 3: either way, awesome series. Even though lindaor struggled at the plate,

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01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 3: I don't care. Still MVP Hose Kinkana hundredth win, Lindor

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01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 3: hundredth run, Harrison Batas stroking it over the fence. All

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01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 3: good boys. Appreciate you. I will talk to you soon.

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01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 3: Let's go Mats postseason time.

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01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: I didn't have I didn't have a cameo from a

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01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 2: boy Colin on the con. That's crazy.

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01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: You got to sa Colin the text now and be like, hey,

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01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: you met Franky Peppers.

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01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 2: I love color so much. Colin such a great guy.

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01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 2: Pa ads for the Mets, him and him and Marisol

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01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: to the best in the business, literally the two best.

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01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, that's Frankie Peppers getting all the new

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01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: people over there, welcome to the mess Up experience everybody else.

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01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: Nothing's changing. We'll talk to you more often. That's pretty

1844
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: much it. Uh and yeah, I think we're done.

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01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: Peace out. Peace that guys. I'll let GMC next time.

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Speaker 1: Then then the