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But let's just say the last thirty 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: six hours of the vacation of my time off has 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: been it's been very hard to focus and concentrate considering 39 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: the tinderbox that is the United States of America at 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: the moment. It is. Everything surrounding what happened, what has 41 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: happened in Minneapolis is troublesome on levels that I don't 42 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: think we're fully appreciating because of everything this incident has exposed. Right, 43 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: this incident is exposed all of these weaknesses that we've 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: all been seeing and wondering. At what point does it 45 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: lead to some sort of crack up? Right this, let's 46 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: I think we everybody is forgetting the context of this situation. Okay, 47 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: the incident itself, the fact that there is nobody in 48 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: the administration that wants to say, let's investigate this and 49 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: let's reassure American citizens that they aren't going to get 50 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: arbitrarily killed hard stop. There is nobody in this administration 51 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: that wants to say, hey, is do we know for 52 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: sure that any that there and instead we have It's 53 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: one thing for people who do not have insider information 54 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: to use the Internet to speculate, to slow to use 55 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: YouTube to do slow motion tracking of what may or 56 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: may not have happened in this incident. It is another 57 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: thing for the sitting vice president of the United States 58 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: who does know that there is going to be body 59 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: camera footage that's available that is going to know that 60 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: they'll probably be audio that perhaps ICE already has that 61 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: can actually shine a light on more details of what 62 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: happened in those crucial moments between the incident of where 63 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: these ICE agents approached the car and when the car 64 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: began to leave. But to have the Vice President just 65 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: idly speculate and assume one person's in the right, the 66 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: law enforcement official, and one person's in the wrong, the 67 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: now dead American citizen. And the fact that we have 68 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: no leadership in this country that wants to say, let's 69 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: see if we can get all the facts, Let's see 70 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: if we can figure out what exactly happened in this 71 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: specific situation. But we also need more context beyond that 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: we have recruited, because here's there are a variety of 73 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: ways that this perhaps went south. One is a presumption 74 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: of guilt by the ICE officer over what the woman 75 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: was doing in that position. Two was sort of the 76 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: nature of whatever protests may or may not have been 77 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: organized in that moment. But there's a larger thing that 78 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: has happened over the last year that I think we 79 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: have not spent enough time on, and that is how 80 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: the United States government, specifically the Department of Homeland Security 81 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: has gone about recruiting officers to become members of ICE. 82 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: I watch a lot of college football. Many of you 83 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: know that. I I'm obsessed about college football, and the 84 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: beauty of what's happened these days is a lot of 85 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: times now with college football. Because of how hard it 86 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: is to advertise in a broad spect, to try to 87 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: identify and target a broad demographic group, you get a 88 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: lot of I get to see a lot of what 89 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I call local advertising in markets that I don't live in. Well, 90 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: one of those, one of these ad campaigns over the 91 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: last six months, particularly that air during college football, was 92 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: recruiting local law enforcement officers to join ICE. And it 93 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: was the language that was used to recruit. They were 94 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: not interested in recruiting officers whose goal was to become 95 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: members of their community, to protect and to serve the 96 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: community as a whole. Instead, they were almost war recruitment videos. 97 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Attention Seattle law enforcement officers, are you tired of having 98 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: to stand down? Well, essentially, they wanted to. They targeted 99 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: specifically in blue areas, in in urban areas, target local 100 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: law enforcement to leave local policing, which, of course, by 101 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: the way, has only undermines the ability to defend local communities. 102 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: And we know we have a shortage of police officers 103 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: in this country, and so the administration actually to take 104 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: police officers, active duty police officers and essentially grab them 105 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: out of communities and using language like you, are you 106 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: frustrated that you cannot do your job the way you 107 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: think you should be able to do your job because 108 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: of so called sanctuary city policies or a local policy 109 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: that you don't like, Come join ICE. The point being 110 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: is what kind of officer is the Department of Homeland 111 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: Security trying to recruit? What kind of environment are they trying? 112 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: Are they telling these officers that they're facing? Right, the 113 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: recruitment videos were always you're going to go have to 114 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: get the worst of the worst in order to deport 115 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: these folks that have invaded America. So you have set 116 00:07:51,480 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: and created and essentially used propaganda to almost fuel rage 117 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: into the system where the officers are being told, these 118 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: people are against you, these people are all criminals, and 119 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: anybody standing in your way is part of the problem. Now, 120 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: do I know there are people in this country who 121 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: actually believe this as an ideology? I do. We're a large, 122 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: diverse country, three hundred and fifty million people, We're going 123 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: to have a lot of divergent views about whether we 124 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: should be an actual democracy or whether we should be 125 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: an authoritarian regime. Trust me, there are a whole bunch 126 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: of people that have gotten suckered into the MAGA movement 127 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: who accept the premise that and maybe democracy isn't what 128 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: it's cracked up to be. Not everybody should have the 129 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: same rights. And so when you look back at the 130 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: situation in Minneapolis, first of all, it's tragic somebody died 131 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: that didn't have to die. And to watch the Vice 132 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: president in particular, rationalize this death rather than lamented the 133 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: death is really alarming. As a citizen of the United States, 134 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: forget anything else about what any of us do for 135 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: a living. I thought this was somebody. I thought the 136 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: vice president valued life. You should value life here. What 137 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: happened was a tragedy. Let's get to the bottom of it. 138 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: A truly transparent and small d democratic administration would want 139 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: all the facts out there. If you want to have 140 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: trust in the community, if you want the community to 141 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: help you find criminals, then you need to prove that 142 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: you're willing to follow the law when you do it. 143 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: We don't know whether this officer followed the law, but 144 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: the idea that if somebody Hannocks in a situation and 145 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: takes off, that it could get misinterpreted and become a 146 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: death sentence for them is not the United States of 147 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: America that any of us thought we were living in. 148 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and presume we know 149 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: the facts on the ground. I don't. I wasn't there. 150 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: But here's what I do know. We have an administration 151 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: that is fomenting rage in this country. This there has 152 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: been an intentional intentionality to which cities have been targeted 153 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: by ice Right. They have been intentionally going into places 154 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: where there are democratic governors or democratic mayors so they 155 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: can have confrontations. The confrontation is a feature, not a bug. 156 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: What is wrong with this policy? This is most Americans 157 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: want safe and secure border, want safe and secure neighborhoods, 158 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: and want their constitutional rights respected and observed. That's true 159 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: of progressives, and I think that's true of many conservatives. 160 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: But to go around and just you and not sit 161 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: here and expect that you're going to that the when 162 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: you sort of target a community, assume the worst about 163 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: said community. You want confrontation, and this administration, I fear, 164 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: has been looking in order to create confrontations that that 165 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: will rationalize ramping up other contentious policies. Are we going 166 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: to suddenly violate the Fourth Amendment? I mean, every once 167 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: in a while, Jade Vance keeps talking about going door 168 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: to door, Caroline Leavitt is talking about ice agents, going 169 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: to order, or what are we doing here? This is 170 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: not the United States of America that any of us 171 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: we're growing up in. But more importantly, we just have 172 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: no political leadership here. Nobody wants to turn the temperature down. 173 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: This administration constantly wants to turn the temperature up. They 174 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: want more confrontation. This is not an administration that wants 175 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: to bring this country together. This is not about left 176 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: versus right. This is about right versus wrong and the 177 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: inability to want to turn the temperature down. We don't 178 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: have leaders right now in position in these key positions 179 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:46,479 Speaker 1: of leadership heading up federal law enforcement agencies, who actually 180 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: want to bring the country together, who actually want to 181 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: make sure what they're doing is legal. You know, one 182 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: of the more alarming developments of the last twenty four 183 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: hours in this incident was the Tom Homan interview with CBS. 184 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: So he does an interview with CBS, who says, you know, 185 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: we shouldn't jump to conclusions. I don't have all the facts. 186 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: It's not what his boss, the Department of Homeland Security 187 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: Secretary Dave Christy Nome, just went out there with a 188 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: version of events that no one knows is accurate or not. 189 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: There's plenty of video out there that appears to contradict 190 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: her version of events. They don't have video that seems 191 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: to reinforce the version of events she claims, or the 192 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: version of events the President's been trying to sell. Tom 193 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Holman made the mistake of actually acknowledging that he didn't 194 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: have all the facts. Then he realizes, oh, no, facts 195 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: don't matter here. The message is everything first, and he 196 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: had to backtrack. He went out of his way on 197 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: social media say oh I did this interview, but and 198 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: just so you know, I'm standing by all of this. 199 00:13:52,320 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: Without an investigation, no rational police, local police force would 200 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: immediately jump to this conclusion. Police unions do sometimes, but 201 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: not the actual people who actually run these police forces. 202 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: Not most normal chiefs of police would behave this way. 203 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: And it comes back to why doesn't this administration value 204 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: the loss of a life of an American citizen. I've 205 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: seen some try to rationalize this woman's death based on, well, 206 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't agree with him politically. What 207 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: about whose responsibility is it? Every Is it not the 208 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: responsibility of a law enforcement officer to actually want to 209 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: de escalate a situation. It seems as if the explanation 210 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: here is that, hey, this officer feared for their life, 211 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: so hey, any shooting is justified? Are you kidding me? 212 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Is this where going? And then every law enforcement officer 213 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: is going to be believed. Hey, I'm sorry. I'm a 214 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: trust but verified person for everybody. I respect law enforcement, 215 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: but I know my rights. I know there are good 216 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: cops who make mistakes, and I know there are bad 217 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: cops that are aggressive just because they want to be. 218 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: I know that there are American citizens who make mistakes 219 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: who are mostly good people. And I know there are 220 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: plenty of citizens out there who want to create anarchy 221 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: and who want to inflame a situation. But it's my 222 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: understanding every police officer I've known in my life is 223 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: not anxious to inflame a situation. But we seem to 224 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: be trying to recruit and you again, I go back 225 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: to these recruitment videos, because again, I don't think enough 226 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: has been made about why we're here. Why is Minneapolis 227 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: being targeted? Well, we know why it's being targeted, because 228 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: there's an aggressive campaign to demonize the entire Somalia community 229 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: that cannot be separated from this situation. If there are 230 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: people that broke the law ripping off the US government 231 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: with subsidies, they should be the book should be thrown 232 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: at them. Do I think that the Walls administration was 233 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: too politically correct in how they handled this issue with 234 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: these daycare senators? You're right, You're goddamn right. I believe that. 235 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: But it doesn't give any right to suddenly declare an 236 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: entire community because guess what, there's plenty of Native born 237 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: Americans who rip off the government too. Check out Social 238 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Security disability if you want to figure that one out. 239 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: So trying to just demonize an immigrant group for political reasons, right, again, 240 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: we know why it's being done. We know why there's 241 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: a surge of ICE agents into Minneapolis to create a 242 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: confrontation for everybody to see it. None of these attempts 243 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: have been none of these attempts to deport people who 244 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: are not supposed to be here have been done with 245 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: any sort of hope that you want to keep, Actually, 246 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: you want to minimize the amount of, say, community interference 247 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: that could take place. There seems to almost be an 248 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: attempt to maximize exposure for these so called raids so 249 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: that they can show the world what they're doing, regardless 250 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: of whether this is legal or not, regardless of the 251 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: people that they've decided to target, our American citizens or not. 252 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: And guess what. American citizens have the right to protest. 253 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: Law enforcement does not have the right to kill protesters. 254 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: Now we should have a full investigation, and guess what 255 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: the FEDS and the state ought to first of all, 256 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: be doing a joint investigation. The idea that the FEDS 257 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: aren't going to let the state of Minnesota as part 258 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: of this investigation seems to be an attempt to only 259 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: reinforce the notion that the community isn't going to believe 260 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: the outcome of that. And why would the federal government 261 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: want that? Don't you want the public to believe your 262 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: version of events after an investigation. The minute you've decided 263 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: to cut out local investigators from this, you're only going 264 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: to reinforce the notion that nobody's going to believe anything 265 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: on this, which brings me to the issue of how 266 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: we all consume information. We're getting to the point where 267 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: whatever you want to believe, you can find something in 268 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: social media to support your versse of events. We don't 269 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: have any collective belief in some sort of you know, 270 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: sort of above partisan truth. That's this is why it 271 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: feels like we're in a tinderbox. And when you have 272 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: a president of the United States that is not interested 273 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: in de escalating, a vice president of the United States 274 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: that went out of his way to escalate, he's making 275 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: a political decision to essentially make sure these folks know 276 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: where he stands, rather than lamenting the death of an 277 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: American citizen. It's almost as if there was a celebration 278 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: that this woman died and they get to use it 279 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: for a piece of propaganda. What are we doing here 280 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: and how has this become sort of accepted. I know 281 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: there are whole bunch of members of Congress, particularly Republican 282 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: members of Congress, who are appalled that the behavior of 283 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: this administration, whether it's the absurd rhetoric about Greenland. Literally, 284 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna blow NATO up here. I mean 285 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, the president is in a current state of 286 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: mind where it apparent appears that he believes and this 287 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: is to me, the most dangerous aspect of this presidency 288 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: that we're in. 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It's a year of uncertainty because we have 323 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: a president who appears to be in this Instead of 324 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: wanting to de escalate, he's just trying to maximize whatever 325 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: it is he wants to do, as if time is 326 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: running out, as if the sand in his hourglass is 327 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: about to go away. It's a dangerous moment for us 328 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: right now. I think there are a handful of Republicans 329 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: in Congress who realize we're in a very dangerous situation 330 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: with this president who seems to be really nothing, seems 331 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: to he doesn't believe in a single guard rail. And 332 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: by the way, all this happening on the anniversary of 333 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: January sixth, where you literally have an administration that's trying 334 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: to trying to whitewash that part of history because assaulting 335 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, that was one that was an assault of 336 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: police officers in law enforcement that they seem to be 337 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: comfortable with. January sixth, rioters were just expressing their First 338 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: Amendment rights, but not Renee Good if that's what she 339 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: was doing there. Again, everybody's jumping to conclusions. I'd like 340 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: to actually get a non partisan investigation to figure out 341 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: everything that happened there. We know that there's going to 342 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: be will they're better be bodycam footage and some audio 343 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: so that we can actually know what's going on, and 344 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: we have any of eyewitness accounts, none of which seem 345 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: to match the story that the administration is telling. But again, 346 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I think we have to come back to we're in 347 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: a really precarious situation when it comes to political leadership 348 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: in this country. We have people with power who are 349 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: not interested in de escalating. Where's that going to lead us? 350 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: Even if you have more Republican members of Congress saying hey, 351 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: there needs to be a bit more guardrails in the 352 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: executive branch. Is this executive branch going to listen? Are 353 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: they going to care? I think JD. Vince just laughed 354 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: at the War Powers Act, as if the legislative branch 355 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: exerting its Article one constitutional authority was somehow a laughing matter. Look, 356 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: I he's got a vision for power and the presidency. 357 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: That is his vision. It is not a small the 358 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: democratic vision. And that's something else that I think we're 359 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: all learning given the reaction to this situation. But I 360 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: keep coming back to the uncomfortable fact that nobody seems 361 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: to be in this administration lamenting the death of this woman. 362 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: This is not where a vast majority of Americans are, 363 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: and this is why we're right back to the chaos. 364 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that I think that 365 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: the Republican Party in the I don't want to say 366 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: the Republican Party, I think Republicans. I think there are 367 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: many Republicans who know what Trump is doing is bad politics. 368 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: There are a whole bunch of people in this West 369 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: wing who don't accept the premise that the only reason 370 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: they're back in office is because the voters wanted more 371 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: Trump one point zero. They didn't want this new version 372 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: of Trump. That's not what they voted for. And that's 373 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: why police Republicans are in huge trouble, and plenty of 374 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: elective Republicans know it. That's why you have a growing 375 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: number of House Republicans breaking with the president on healthcare, 376 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: growing number of Senate Republicans breaking with the president on 377 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: Greenland and Venezuela. There are a plenty of rational, normal, 378 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: everyday Americans who happen to be Republicans and Conservatives and 379 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: elected office who say what Trump is doing is neither 380 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: Republican nor conservative, and more importantly, it's going to absolutely 381 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: screw up their political futures. Now. I'm not going to 382 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: go down the alarmist road about whether we're going to 383 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: have elections and all this stuff. I think our democracy 384 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: is both fragile and strong, if that's possible to be. 385 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: There's definitely a fragility to it that I think we 386 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: sometimes forget. But I also believe that there is an 387 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: endurance about it that is going to stick. But most 388 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: Americans don't like what they saw in Minnesota. Most Americans 389 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: are uncomfortable when law enforcement panics. Look, it's one thing 390 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: for an untrained American citizen to panic, it's another thing 391 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: when a supposedly trained law enforcement officers panics and somebody dies. 392 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: And I fear that's the situation we had in Minnesota. Okay, 393 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: I am not assuming the personal worst of anybody in 394 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: this situation, but it's possible you had somebody who panicked. 395 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: It's likely that we've And when you look at the 396 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: larger context of how we got here and the recruitment 397 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: of ICE agents it's been taking place over the last 398 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: six months, the propaganda that has been used and then 399 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: they've been put on the streets, the dehumanization, the d 400 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: humanizing rhetoric that is constantly used out of people that 401 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: that have been handed authority. It's part of the larger 402 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: problem here. I know sometimes it sounds naive to say, 403 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: can't we can't we take a step back here? Why 404 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: can't we de escalate. I'm not going to sit here 405 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: and presume I know all the facts of what happened. 406 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: All I know is I want a trustworthy investigation there, 407 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: and unfortunately this administration doesn't have the credibility to provide one. Now, 408 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: I know, when my credibility is questioned, I want to 409 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: go out of my way to give folks the opportunity 410 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: to essentially verify whether I'm telling the truth or not. 411 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm skeptical when people are afraid of an investigation. I'm 412 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: skeptical when people are afraid when facts go against their 413 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: political ideology and they don't want to show that maybe 414 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: they maybe something went wrong on their side. Again, I 415 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: go back, you know the whole Tom Holman, you know, 416 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: one of the it was such a tell and it's 417 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 1: it's sort of I don't want to say it's gone unoticed, 418 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: it's gone notice, but it's sort of a secondary part 419 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: of the story in the moment. But the fact that 420 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: his initial instinct was to say what you'd hope anybody 421 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: in leadership would say at a time like, I don't 422 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: have all the facts. I got to figure out what happened. 423 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: I want to see the bodycam footage. I want to 424 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: know Eyewinness accounts. We've got to have a full investigation. 425 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: Anytime there's an officer involved shooting, that's what you do. 426 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: And then he realizes he looked too responsible, but more importantly, 427 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: he was not. He was off script from the propaganda 428 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: nonsense that Christy Noman put out, the propaganda nonsense that 429 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: the vice president would put out, the propaganda nonsense that 430 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: President Trump was trying to sell to people. Again, you 431 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: know this is and this goes back to something it's 432 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: and I think that you know, what the left has 433 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: to understand is there's going to be collective outrage at 434 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: how this administration handled the situation in Minnesota. That doesn't 435 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: mean they don't want secure borders. But what the right 436 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to understand is that just like the public 437 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: was upset when they didn't think people were following the 438 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: law when it came to immigration, they certainly want law 439 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: enforcement to have to follow the law. And we don't 440 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: know if this person did. And I do know this 441 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: when I look at all the circumstantial evidence, again, go 442 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: read some of those ads, Hey Seattle and the type 443 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: of recruitment videos that that have been used to recruit 444 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: ICE officers. What kind of environment has been created within ICE. 445 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm not somebody who thinks we should abolish ICE, but 446 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: it certainly appears as if we need some new leadership 447 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: and we need a better code of conduct because the 448 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: encouragement of sort of rough housing and all of this 449 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: undemocratic stuff. This is not who we are. This is 450 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: thuggery behavior that we know the Russians do. This is 451 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: thuggery behavior that we denounce when the Venezuelans do it, 452 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: when the Iranian leadership does it. Why are we why 453 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: even come close to having an entity of the United 454 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: States government behave in ways that can be equated to 455 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: authoritarian regimes. So, look, we're in a We're I've said 456 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: this before. I've iscillated all the time between trying to 457 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, I know, you see my friends at the 458 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: bulwark and they're in one place, my friends in the 459 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: dispatcher in another place. Everybody is concerned about the direction 460 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: that President Trump has been taking us rhetorically, that many 461 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: and you know, you have all these crazy grifters like 462 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: Megan Kelly, who's just trying to weaponize every situation in 463 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: order to somehow gain more followers. We have this terrible, 464 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, algorithm incentive structure that's been created in the 465 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: social media world that gives people only a feed that 466 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: reinforces what they already believe and genuinely makes it very 467 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: difficult to find out the truth. And now we have 468 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: a government it seems to be not just okay with 469 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: our inability to find out the truth, but exploiting it. So, look, 470 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: we're The thing that concerns me is the intentionality of 471 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: the community of Minneapolis being targeted trying to create a confrontation. 472 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty clear there are elements inside this administration that 473 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: are looking for confrontations, looking for excuses to ratchet things 474 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: up more, rather than wanting to de escalate a situation, 475 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: rather than maybe bringing more people into the fold so 476 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: that everybody understands, Okay, look, we do we have an 477 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: illegal do we have a problem with with with with 478 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: our immigration system? We do going about it by dehumanizing 479 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: anybody that was trying to get here? Is that the 480 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: way to do this? Weaponizing fear is that the way 481 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: to do this. And here's the thing politically. This is 482 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: such a loser for the administration. You know, again, some 483 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: of the goals the public is supportive of the tactics, 484 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: they're appalled by, and that's pretty much been par for 485 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: the course for the Trump administration. And this is this 486 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: isn't going to be good politics for them at all, 487 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: which is one part of it. So then it's like, 488 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: why are they doing this? They think this is good 489 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: politics for them, and I fear that they are getting 490 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: a feedback loop that is even more bizarre than the 491 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: feedback loop that we all seem to feel and get 492 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: sometimes when it comes to social media. So, look, we 493 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: have a leadership vacuum in this country. It's evident. I 494 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: think some people are trying to speak out and they don't. 495 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's tough to break through. My friend John Kasik, 496 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: God bless him, he's been trying. But then some of 497 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: the right won't won't hear any of it. They don't 498 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: want to hear anything he has to say, somebody like him, 499 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: Mike Pence. You know, there's this if somehow you're critical 500 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: of Trump, you're dead to the Republican Party. I mean, 501 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: look what Trump just did to the five Republican senators 502 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: who chose to symbolically protest the president's authority for military 503 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: intervention in Venezuela, and the fact that he said it 504 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: just just the idea that if you question the president, 505 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: you can't be a member of the Republican Party in 506 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: good standing. So the Republican Party, the leader of the 507 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: Republican Party basically is not interested in any essentially any 508 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: sort of debate withinside the Republican Party. No disagreement allowed 509 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: at all, apparently, and if you because you cannot embarrass 510 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: dear leader. Look, the bigger picture is this isn't this 511 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: is an administration that is flailing. This is things did 512 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: not go well in the first year. He's convinced himself 513 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: that they have gone well, but politically he's in a as bad, 514 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: if not worse position, than Joe Biden was at this 515 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: point in time. At this presidency, he's facing a midterm 516 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: political environment that looks disastrous. Looks about as bad as 517 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and six did for Republicans or as bad 518 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: as twenty ten was for Democrats. My fear is that 519 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: we're only going to see more of this. I think 520 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: we're going to see intentional confrontation because I think they 521 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: think this is this becomes good politics, that if they 522 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: can incite bad behavior on the left, that it will 523 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: somehow convince swing voters to give them more undemocratic authority 524 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: on the right or rationalize undemocratic behavior in government. The 525 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: good news is that's bad politics, because most Americans still 526 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: believe we should be a small deed democracy. I know 527 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: there's a chunk of people who think, eh, we need 528 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: a benevolent dictator, we need a king. That's a small 529 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: group of people. And despite perhaps this president's hope or 530 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: belief that he gets to be that kind of authoritarian leader, 531 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't think there's even a majority of his in 532 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: his party, especially if it were a secret ballot, who 533 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: believe in the same thing. But all I will say 534 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: is I just ask many of my conservative friends who 535 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: believe in limited government, who believe in the Fourth Amendment 536 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: in particular, but all of the Bill of Rights and 537 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: the entire Constitution. If you believe you're a constitutionalists, speak up. 538 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: Don't let this president hijack the conservative movement to weaponize 539 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: government against American citizens, because right now that's exactly what 540 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: it looks like is happening. Many Americans feel this way, 541 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: and the irony is I'm old enough to remember when 542 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: the right felt like it was happening to them, And 543 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: there is the worst virus we have going on in 544 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: American politics today is what about is them? And that 545 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: there's too many people justifying their political beliefs and various 546 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: political decisions by saying, well, they did it, so why 547 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: can't I. Two wrongs don't make a right, because sometimes 548 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: two wrongs end up getting somebody killed who shouldn't have been. 549 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 1: I'll see in the next episode of podcast