1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. NBA playoffs feel like they've been going on 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: a long time. Remember when Kevin Durant's tippy toes were 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on the three point line and that Nets Bucks series. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: It feels like last season, doesn't it, Or when Lebron 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: was still in the playoffs. Now the only playoffs he's 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: in battling aliens in Space Jam. I did watch the 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: movie last night. I know it's not meant for me. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm not the target demo. And I was a little 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: bit surprised because Lebron's a villain and then his son 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: is in the movie, and I just had a hard 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: time kind of understanding. It felt like life's lessons and 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: you wanted to I just wanted a damn cartoon. I 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: just wanted to have something that was pretty breezy there, 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: a little deeper than I thought. But and I'm not 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: going to compare, you know, Lebron to Michael in the 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: Space Jam actor Michael obviously, But I did watch it 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. It just wasn't as breezy as I 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: thought that. That's the word. I kept going, Man, I 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: like this be a little more lighthearted here. It was 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: heavier than what I thought. Would I recommend it? Yes, yeah, 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: for for somebody who is fourteen and under, Yeah, you 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: would probably get a kick out of it. Now maybe 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: as if you're a parent, you might be watching and 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: maybe you take away some life's lessons there. But it 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: wasn't what I thought it was going to be. Was 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: put it that way? Yeah? Point, I'm just guessing here, 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: But I bet Lebron's team win. I don't want to 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: spoil anything. I don't want to spoil it. I know that, Hey, 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: I know he won at the box office because there 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: are a lot of people on social media like, let's 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: see what you do against Black Widow, And all of 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, you go, the number one movie in America 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: is Space Jam Black Widow anymore. So, you think back 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: when Lebron was in the playoffs, how about Ben Simmons 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: passing up that dunk opportunity against the Atlanta Hawks or 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: Paul George was actually playoff p and did the Hawks 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: actually make it to the conference finals or was that 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: a dream? So this has been a long, strange trip 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: in the postseason. Two games left. Maybe maybe it ends tonight. 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: The drama of the series has been great and hopefully 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: we get a few more memorable moments before it's all 43 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: said and done. The long, strange playoff Road finally reaches 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: its conclusion and you start to think about NBA Finals, 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: and having covered quite a few of them, you would 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: always it felt like, remember the moments made by the 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: winning team. What's Phoenix's signature moments so far? Exactly? Milwaukee 48 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: got a couple of them, you know, Drew Holliday, the steel, 49 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: the alley to Yannis Yannis with the block, like, they 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: got a couple of them, and normally that team wins 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: a championship, and you get this feeling that this is it. 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: There's gonna be sixty thousand fans outside the arena in Milwaukee. 53 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: It feels like they're going to have a parade tonight 54 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: if Milwaukee wins and wins its second NBA championship in 55 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: the first and fifty years. But if they don't win, 56 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: can't imagine what that sixty thousand is going to feel 57 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: like outside the building. As the series will then head 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: back to Phoenix, but we will approach tonight's Game six 59 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: with John Barry coming up next hour. Whole question who's 60 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 1: doing the honors today? Paulie If you were a Milwaukee's 61 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks fan who had tickets to Game six at 62 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: home tonight, and you could sign a deal the Bucks 63 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: lose tonight but win in seven games and your team 64 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: wins the game a title. Or you go tonight and 65 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: you roll the dice with whatever happens in game six 66 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: and seven. You're guaranteeing yourself a victory, but it's not 67 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna be in the game you're at. Put this perspective. 68 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: I went to Game three and four of the Cubs 69 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: World Series in Chicago. They lost both games, but they 70 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: don't feel that bad because it doesn't bother me now. 71 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: But those two nights were two rough nights. Oh you're 72 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: a mess, PAULI didn't get emotional. I thought, God, I 73 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: got it. This guy's gonna cry. After Game four in Chicago, 74 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: there was no public transportation. You had to walk like 75 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: eight blocks. It was like a walk of drunken zombies 76 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: who were upset. It was Yeah, But if you could 77 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: sign that deal, if you're a Buck, I would. I 78 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: would go to Game six and just expect us to win. 79 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: I think the last time they lost was to the 80 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks in the playoffs at home. I would roll 81 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: the dice. Now, Phoenix has been good on the road, 82 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: but I would roll the dice there and say we 83 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: got momentum, we're gonna sweep them. And lost the first two, 84 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna win the next four. Yeah, See, got roll 85 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: the dice. Yeah, to be there in that atmosphere if 86 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: they win game six and you were there, got roll 87 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: the dice. Any other poll questions suggestions? I have one. 88 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: If I would have told you a week ago that 89 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: Eli Manning would work in the media someday, your answer 90 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: would have been sure, maybe, no chance in hell. Well, 91 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: I thought that he was going to work with the Giants. 92 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: He has a role with the Giants. It's like a 93 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: business development type role. Yeah, But as far as a 94 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: standalone media member where he's another analyst like Tony Romo, 95 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: the answer is no. But now he's going to pair 96 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: up with his brother and they're gonna do Monday night football. 97 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: It's it's great business by Eli and Peyton and Peyton's 98 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: Peyton's sang to ESPN, I don't want to work for you. 99 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I want to work with you, and that's where you 100 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: own things, and then ESPN will then rent those things 101 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: by those things you already have Peyton's places. Do you 102 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: realize that he's got other athletes that are going to 103 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: be doing like Poppy Big Poppy's go to do Poppies places. 104 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Abby Wamback is going to do Abby's places. He's creating 105 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: this I don't know if it's a series of these shows. 106 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe it, but he's 107 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: he's branching out where he's probably going to executive produce 108 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: these shows. Yeah, se but she's kind of taking the 109 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: model that Kobe was had already started he you know, 110 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: details as a Kobe Bryant show. You know, he was 111 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: already selling content to ESPN and probably other providers or 112 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: other places. So it's sort of just an extension of that. 113 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: And then you wonder, because when you start to think 114 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: of this decision that I kept waiting for Peyton, if 115 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: he was going to do Monday Night Football or somebody 116 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: else was going to reach out to him, If Troy 117 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: Aikman went into the front office for a football team 118 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: and Peyton decided he was going to do Fox, then 119 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: you realize that even the numbers where I was talking 120 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: to a TV exect and you could get some pretty 121 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: good umbers, you weren't going to get Tony romo numbers, 122 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: but you were still going to be able to fly private, 123 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, in and out at these places like that 124 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: was really important with Peyton with his children. And then 125 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: I thought, well, if you pair Eli and Peyton and 126 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: you do that on Monday Night, then you probably have 127 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: some magic there. But Peyton standing alone could do it. 128 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: But this allows Eli. Eli is the only guy who 129 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: could probably poke and jab Peyton Manning live on the air, 130 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: and you know your announcer probably can't. But if you're 131 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: able to get Eli in there with Peyton, Peyton's going 132 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: to dissect the game. Eli is going to be in there. 133 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna have celebrities in there. I don't know who 134 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: your host is. You might as well have Cooper Manning, 135 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: the other brother in there. He worked for Fox, but 136 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: maybe you could loan him out and he could be 137 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: the pseudo host. And this is more of a come 138 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: on in way the game with us. From what I'm 139 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: being told, it's it's like a viewing party, but the 140 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: analysis is going to be top shelf. Now you wonder, 141 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: okay is ESPN bastardizing It's Monday Night Crew with Steve 142 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: Levy and Brian Greasy and Lewis Ridding. I think what 143 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: they're doing, and they do this with the National title 144 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: game with the MegaCast where you have all of these 145 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: different channels and they're covering the event. You know, the 146 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: coach's corner, Bill Simmons is able to do this. But 147 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: I think that's what's going to happen, and it probably 148 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: takes a little bit of the pressure off the Monday 149 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: Night team because you know, they Okay, if you watched 150 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: Eli and Peyton, maybe you watch for a little while 151 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: and then you want to watch an actual broadcast of 152 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: the game, and then you may come back and it 153 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: might be a good thing for that team, because it 154 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: feels like ESPN has been trying for over two decades 155 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: to get Monday Night football right, and now you have 156 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Eli and Peyton on the ESPN platform, but not on 157 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: the actual broadcast, and they're going to do ten of 158 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: these games on Monday Night. I'm curious to hear how 159 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: it sounds, but I was also surprised it's only ten games. 160 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: But they want to control the schedule. You know, Tony 161 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: Romo has got to do the whole season here. Peyton's 162 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: probably like going, hey, I'll do it. But this, we 163 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: want to do this number of games there and do 164 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: you go to each city? Is it something where Eli 165 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: and Peyton can watch a game and they're in New 166 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: Orleans at their parents house. I don't know, but it 167 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: feels like this is it's a brilliant business move. Peyton 168 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: Manning is doing what Shack is doing, and that is 169 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: you don't want to get paid for doing something. You 170 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: want to own a piece of something. When Shack comes 171 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: in and does you know pizza or the doorbell or 172 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: the general Shack goes, don't pay me. I want a 173 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: piece of this. And if you think about he's become 174 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: a billionaire with these business decisions. And I think other 175 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: athletes look at this and go, yeah, don't pay me 176 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: a fee, give me a piece of the company. And 177 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: if I own the company, the fact that you want 178 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: a piece of it, I like that even more, like 179 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: you are actually invested with me, and I like that. 180 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: But I think what Peyton is doing, he's got the 181 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,119 Speaker 1: power to be able to do this. And the Mothership 182 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: is already in business with him, and they're going to 183 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: be doing Monday night football. This program brought to you 184 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: by Simply Safe. Simply Safe has been making people feel 185 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: safe at home for fifteen years. 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Now when you see the headline, 195 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: it becomes a little more ominous, it's a little scarier there. 196 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: But the head of the organizing committee said, we can't 197 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: predict what will happen with the number of coronavirus cases, 198 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: so we will continue discussions if there is a spike 199 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: in cases. We have agreed that based on the coronavirus situation, 200 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: we will convene Five Party talks again. At this point, 201 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: the coronavirus cases may rise or fall, so we will 202 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: think about what we should do when the situation arises. 203 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: It's just one of those that you've just tucking in 204 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: a corner in your mind and just go. Okay, opening 205 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: ceremonies coming up on Friday night. Let's see anything else 206 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: we need to mention here before we take a break. Yes, Pauling, 207 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: there is act Aaron Rodgers news actual news what ish what? Yeah? 208 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: I would say it is okay, Okay, I'm about to 209 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: email to you, okay for for soaking in purpose Okay, 210 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: all right, then we'll take a break and we'll discunt that. 211 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: You can marinate on that a bit. Yeah, yeah, it 212 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: feels like news. Okay, I think it is all right? 213 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: All right, backtracking, I feel like mc glove and I'm back. 214 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: I said, I'm not back now. I think it is okay? 215 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: Is it is it news that I, as a journalist 216 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: I need to talk about right now? Or do I 217 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: take a break? No? I watch you soak it in? Okay, 218 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: because there's some questions about it? Okay, all right, Well 219 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: we'll come back and talk about the Aaron Rodgers news. 220 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: Is it news or not? We'll let you be the judge. Yes, 221 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and his brother just sold us side screen 222 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: Mega cast for they're gonna they want to do Monday 223 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: night footballs well, yeah, they're gonna do. That's no, we 224 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: have ours that we're doing. They're going to compete against 225 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: the Manning brothers. That's not it is a point. Find 226 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: out just scoop it today, Sorry, find out nags. Thanks 227 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 228 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon 229 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 230 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 231 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 232 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. 233 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: One of my favorite basketball analysts, John Barry, ESPN Radio, 234 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: NBA analysts, former NBA player. He's been on the call 235 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: throughout the NBA Finals for ESPN Radio, and he'll be 236 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: on the call tonight ninety Eastern Game six, tipping off 237 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. John, thanks for joining us. Give me the 238 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: player who has the most pressure on them tonight? Well, everybody, 239 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's a knockout game, so everybody on the 240 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: Sun's obviously. I mean, I know everybody talks about Chris 241 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: Paul and then's this legacy. I don't get caught up 242 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: in that. I mean, does it really change what kind 243 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: of player Chris Paul is going to be looked at 244 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: if he wins or loses this NBA final in ten years, 245 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: I think, so why hall of famer regardless? What's the difference. Well, 246 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: I think he moves up though John if he wins. 247 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: I've heard this, Well Nash never won and Stockton never won, 248 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, then he leaped frogs them. And then this 249 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: is what analysts tell me. Do I think that Chris 250 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: Paul is better than John Stockton? I don't. Do I 251 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: think he's better than Steve Nash, I don't. Does he 252 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: belong to be in the top ten? Sure? But is 253 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: he a top five because he wins? He's not better 254 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: than Jason Kidd in my opinion. So winning a championship 255 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: makes you better than that? Well, I think that's how 256 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: people validate greatness. You know, John Elway needed to win 257 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: super Bowls to now be considered one of the great quarterbacks. 258 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's the greatest because he has all these super bowls. 259 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: Is he more talented than Aaron Rodgers or John Elway? No? 260 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: But if Tim Duncan didn't have any championships, he'd not 261 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: be a top fifteen player, top twenty player. Maybe not. 262 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: But I just He's going to be the same player 263 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: to me whether this happens or not. And I'm not 264 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: putting this series on squarely on his shoulders. He played 265 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: great in the first two games, not so great the 266 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: last three, So it's not on him. Yes, he's had 267 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: some blunders in his past in big playoff games, but 268 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: this certainly is in the series where it's on Chris 269 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: Paul to win or lose. I think there's a lot 270 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: of pressure on all the Phoenix Suns. But I think 271 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: if you're the Bucks, you gotta win tonight. You did 272 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: win in Phoenix, but this feels like a coronation tonight. 273 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna be six thousand people outside that building tonight, John, 274 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: I understand this, and plus the four of us on 275 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: the radio that have to walk through that if they 276 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: went so. I do typically cheer for the road team 277 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: to closed out series. It makes it a nice easy 278 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: walk home. No, I think you're right. You don't want 279 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: to go back Game seven in Phoenix, No way. And look, 280 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: Phoenix could easily be up in this series. I thought 281 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Game four they completely gave away with their turnovers. They 282 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: should have won that game. They outplayed Milwaukee and so 283 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: they could have gone home and had a close out 284 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: game in Game five. That's not the case. Obviously, they 285 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: got off to a great start in Game five and 286 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: the game completely flipped Milwaukee, had they Montie Williams told 287 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: me yesterday the eighth best shooting game in thirteen hundred 288 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: and forty five playoff games, the eighth best in the history. Oh, 289 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's eighth best. Yeah, I mean they were. 290 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: So they start that game nine to twenty one. They 291 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: went thirty two for forty five and the second and 292 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: third quarter for seventy nine points. It was amazing, and 293 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: then Phoenix almost comes back and wins. But I don't 294 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: think Phoenix is a fractured team that I think there's 295 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: still a confident group. And if they were to pull 296 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: this off tonight, I would say that they would win 297 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: the NBA Championship. They would win Game seven at home. 298 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: Talking to John Barry, he'll be on the call game 299 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: six tonight, ESPN Radio tip off at nine Eastern. I 300 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: was talking to Reggie Miller yesterday and we were talking 301 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: about Shack. When the Pacers played the Lakers in the 302 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: NBA Finals in two thousand, he shot eighteen of thirty 303 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: nine from the free throw line in the whole series 304 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: No One game one game, Shack was eighteen of thirty nine. 305 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: In game two and they won. Like imagine if the 306 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: Greek freak did that, John, Like we go man, he 307 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: went one for ten and two air balls. Shack went 308 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: eighteen of thirty nine nine. Wow, and LA still won 309 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, yeah, well, so are you getting at 310 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you try that with you honest tonight put him 311 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: on the line, yes, yeah, Well now he is at 312 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: home where he's probably more comfortable. I don't know the 313 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: stats per se on his home road splits on what 314 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: he shoots. Free throw wise, he had gotten better and 315 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: obviously not so good in the last game. I believe 316 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: four for ten, but it was a great miss because 317 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: they got the offensive remount and Chris Middleton made the 318 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: free throw to put it out of reach. But uh yeah, 319 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, is Monty william saving this 320 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: to possibly do it because they haven't done it yet. 321 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's a point if if it gets down 322 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: to a tight ball game here, you know, but it's 323 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: got to be after two minutes obviously, so I don't know. 324 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: I doubt that we see Montie Williams do that. And 325 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to free throw shooting, and I've talked 326 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: to former players and he said, look, if you could 327 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: shoot it underhand like your father Amos Lee did, and 328 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: you can make lit let's say, seventy seven percent of 329 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: your free throws and you're maybe a fifty percent free throws. 330 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: Like if you said to Jannis, try this and you 331 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: and you go eighty percent? Would players be more likely 332 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: to do what your dad did? And your dad was 333 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time? Like is it 334 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: easy to teach that style of free throw shooting? I 335 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: think he could teach guys with the big hands. I 336 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: think it's an advantage to do. You know, I never 337 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: really messed around with it, but I think if you 338 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: have really big hands, and it's kind of a risk 339 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: cock thing where it's it's not hard to do. But 340 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that guys would do it. I mean 341 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: I played with Shack, you know, in what ninety seven 342 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: whatever it was, and I used to joke with about it. 343 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not looking like a sissy like that, 344 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not doing that's embarrassing. I'm like, I go, 345 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: all right, well, what's more embarrassing? Eighteen for thirty nine 346 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: from the free throw line in the game or doing that, like, 347 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you care enough. I certainly would 348 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: hope my if I coached the guy, I hope you'd 349 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: want to shoot eighty percent as opposed to fifty percent, 350 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: regardless if you had to put a pink two tu 351 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: on at the free throw line, if it went in, 352 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: do it? Did Shaq practice free throws? I shot with 353 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: him every day every day we went into free throw 354 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: A breakdown of free throws. I was with him seventeen 355 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: out of twenty, eighteen out of twenty every time. Every time, 356 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: and then what happens? I don't know. Some people don't 357 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: like to be at that line. I think maybe fatigue. 358 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: It plays a factor. If you're in the game, who knows. 359 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you're the center of attention. I know guys 360 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: love to be the center of attention in certain areas, 361 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: but maybe not standing on a free throw line when 362 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: everybody's just staring at you. What's the best conversation you 363 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: ever had during a free throw with the shooter or 364 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: with another guy, another guy I like the guy with 365 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: like first base. When these guys hits and go over 366 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: there and stand, oh gosh, I don't know. I mean 367 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: it would usually pertain to something that was going on 368 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: in the game. I mean it was another like, you know, 369 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: did people say stuff to you at when you were 370 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: at the line. No, I mean like, well you were 371 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: pretty good free throw shooter. No I didn't, it didn't. 372 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah No, I mean yeah, guys we might say something, 373 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: hey we need this, will give us this one? Yeah 374 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: we know who give us this one? Yeah? Whatever. It's like, yeah, 375 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: sure I will three points. Man, I'm not giving you 376 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: anything if U Is there any chance Chris Middleton gets 377 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: factored into the MVP if the Bucks win? Yeah? You know, 378 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: it's funny. I was. I was wondering about that yesterday, 379 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: Like if Middleton goes big tonight and Jannie is you know, okay, 380 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: what if they do? I mean, I know Jannie's numbers 381 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: are better, uh, but you know, quite honestly, Chris Middleton's 382 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: the go to guy of the Milwaukee Bucks. Now. I 383 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: know Drew Holiday came up big in the basketball game, 384 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: but when they need baskets, Middleton. I mean, Middleton made 385 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: some shots in that last game, step back three right 386 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: in front of their bench. He and I did the 387 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: Eastern Finals as well. He had a twenty three point quarter, 388 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: a twenty point quarter. I mean, when this guy gets rolling, 389 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: he's awfully difficult to stop. Though. You know, typically they 390 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: always go with the big name guy, right, so you 391 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: think he would think he honest gets it. But Middleton's 392 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: been huge and then Drew Holliday to bounce back after 393 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: a four for twenty game four and play the way 394 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: he did man and he defensively he is a monster. 395 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's given Chris ball Fitz, but you have 396 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: the Booker situation, and I don't know if it's too 397 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: much of a good thing John where he's gonna get 398 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: thirty five or forty, But is that good for his team, 399 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: as strange as that may sound, Well, two straight games 400 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: over forty and he's lost in both. Yeah, certainly not 401 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: his doing, but what Milwaukee's doing. And Mike BuNos Or 402 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: take a lot of heat for not being a guy 403 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: that adjust and does different things during a game. I 404 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: think he's done a great job. Is they're switching now, 405 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: is causing Phoenix to play one on one basketball, and 406 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: it's either Chris Paul or Devin Booker playing one on one. 407 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: Their assist numbers way down, their passes per possession way down, 408 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: and the shot making has been incredible. What Devin book 409 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: the shots that he's making to get his numbers, they're content. 410 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: I mean I don't remember many uncontested shots he gets. 411 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: He is working extremely hard and making unbelievable shots. So 412 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: if your Phoenix, somehow they still shoot fifty for five 413 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: percent in the last game, they still go thirteen for 414 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: nineteen from three, but you can't expect to play one 415 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: on one basketball and make the kind of shot you're 416 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: making on a consistent basis. So tonight you've got to 417 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: get some ball movement, and Phoenix has not moved the ball. 418 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: And credit Milwaukee from making them a one on one team, 419 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: and credit Devin Booker for doing what he's doing. But 420 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: if they continue to play one on one and don't 421 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: get mckel bridges and eight and other guys Crowder involved, 422 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: I don't think they can win. He's John Barry, ESPN Radio, 423 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: NBA analysts. You were on the Lakers in nineteen ninety eight. 424 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: You don't like that. I don't know. I mean, I 425 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: was on eight different team. I can remember years a 426 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: little difficult. Well, well, no, you guys got swept by 427 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Utah that year. Yeah, we did we did in the 428 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: Western Final and Kobe was what nineteen nineteen years of eight, Yeah, 429 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: second year in the league, and he took the last shot, 430 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: didn't he. No, that was before that was his rookie year. Oh, 431 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: that was his rookie year. But what he did, he 432 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: didn't He didn't play much. I mean Eddie Jones was 433 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: the two guard and Kobe played less than twenty minutes 434 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: a game in that second year. But did you see 435 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: sort of what could be with when? Did you see 436 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: that every day in practice when it was game seven? No, 437 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: like we get ready to scrimmage, right, We're on the 438 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: second team, and he wanted to. Uh, he was going 439 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: after Eddie Jones every day to show coach Del Harris like, no, 440 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: this is my job. I don't know why this guy started. 441 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: And like literally every day was game seven when we 442 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: started scrimmageing. I mean, the guy was as driven as 443 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: any guy I've ever known, Like Michael Jordan, He's he's 444 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: as close and John Smolts are the three most competitive 445 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: guys that I've ever met. John Smoltz, John Smolts as 446 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: competitive as anybody I've ever met. Well, you you played 447 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: against Kobe and you played against Jordan's You've just played 448 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: golf with John Smolts, right right, But I'm just saying, no, 449 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: he's I just he'll do some gambling and will gamble 450 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: on anything, and he's just I'm putting him there except 451 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: for time last week when he joked down down the 452 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: stretch there. Oh sorry, Johnny. That's pretty good though, with 453 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: you know Kobe, But I'm sure that I don't, Well, 454 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: what was Eddie Jones like, Like when does he know 455 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: his days are numbered when he's seeing this that Kobe's 456 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: going after him? I don't know, No, because Eddie was 457 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: still still pretty young, and I think he went to 458 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: Miami after that and had some all star seasons. So no, 459 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: he no, he accepted the challenge. But yeah, everybody, everybody 460 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: kind of knew, like, did this kid right here, Oh 461 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, when he arrives, it's going to be Hello 462 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: world like Tiger, right, did Shack know it? Shack knew it, 463 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: of course, because I just wonder about that ego, you 464 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: know those egos, and I know it wasn't there yet 465 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: because Kobe hadn't had success, But could you feel like, 466 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, there's only one king on the throne here? 467 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: You know, No, because I didn't think that Kobe would care. 468 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: He just wanted to play and that's all he wanted, 469 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: and that's all he did. Like literally, he wouldn't talk 470 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: on our planes. He would I believe he wrote a 471 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: lot of lyrics of rap music and he would not. 472 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: He wouldn't. He wouldn't join in our reindeer games of 473 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: cards and all that stuff. Like he he would sit 474 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: by himself right whatever he was doing. He would watch 475 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan interviews. He would never go out in the 476 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: city we went to. You would never see him. He'd 477 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: be at practice and we'd play one on one after 478 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: practice and if I didn't say I'm leaving, he would 479 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: never leave the gym. No, he wouldn't like I had 480 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: to say, like I'm out of here, man Jesus. But 481 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: it's like we're two hours after practice. He would never leave. Really, 482 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: so he's watching Michael Jordan interviews. He wanted to be 483 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: him more than anything in the world and be better. 484 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: He got close. Yeah, he's yeah, that that's when we 485 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: and he wasn't afraid to say that he wants to 486 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: be Michael Jordan, whereas Lebron is not Michael Jordan. But 487 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: Kobe said look I want it. I'm going after you. 488 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: You wear twenty three, I'm wearing twenty four like I 489 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: I But I loved that that he embraced it. He didn't, 490 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: he didn't back because a lot of guys have shied 491 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: away from it. Where Tracy McGrady, Grant Hill, hey, they're 492 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: the next Michael Jordan. Kobe's like, hey, I'm the next 493 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, and people are like, come on, you're nineteen 494 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: year you know, easy here, And then all of a 495 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: sudden we realized he had somebody that he had footsteps 496 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: to follow. He wasn't afraid of that. Yeah, he loved 497 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: the comparison. I mean that's all he wanted. I mean 498 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: I remember the first time that well we played Chicago 499 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: when we played him twice, obviously being in the West, 500 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: and that game at Chicago, I mean, this kid was 501 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: bouncing off the walls before he got out there. And 502 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: you know the problem was we got our we got 503 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: our butts handed to us. So he didn't get the 504 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: match up against Michael very much. But man, the guy 505 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: played like it was Game seven when we were in 506 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: there down twenty five. I mean, he was something. Did 507 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: shack run onto the court naked at any point during 508 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: a practice while you're with the Lakers. He did not. No, 509 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: I never saw that, thankfully, now, okay, because I some 510 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: of his teammates say that he was famous for doing that, 511 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: Like he'd go out there in just his socks and 512 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: then he would hug people. I mean, that guy is 513 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: great too. It's amazing those two guys. You know that 514 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: that happened because Shaq is as good a guy as 515 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: you ever meet. He's just the biggest kid in the world. 516 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: Complete opposites though, right, totally totally. Yeah, Yeah, have fun tonight. 517 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: And so you're rooting for the Suns just so you 518 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: can get out of the building safely. That's basically it. Yes, okay, 519 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: but one of the eight or nine teams you played 520 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: for was Milwaukee, Yes, thirty almost thir two years ago. 521 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: Well they still remember you. A few people have, Yeah, 522 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: I do. Welcome back to Milwaukee's It's great. You should 523 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: wear your jersey tonight. You know, I have the It's 524 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: the ugliest green remember the all shades of green? Yea side. Yeah, 525 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: that's what we were. Yeah, awful, the worst. I have 526 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: a Terry Cummings autographed jersey from that year, from that 527 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: when you guys had those jerseys. So yeah, Terry Kelsey, Yeah, 528 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: have fun tonight. Always great to talk to you. Safe 529 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: travels there, John. Thanks. That's John Barry of the Mothership 530 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: tonight at nine eastern. Those are great stories about Kobe 531 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: in your nineteen years of age, and hey, I'm not 532 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: getting into games, but I'm going to treat every practice 533 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: like it's game seven and then watching Michael Jordan interviews 534 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: get mannerisms down, and he certainly did that. Thanks for 535 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 536 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern 537 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 538 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox 539 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 540 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. Hey, 541 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called All Ball. We 542 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's more 543 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: about the stories about what made these people love their 544 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: sport and all the interesting interactions along the way. We 545 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell you stories. 546 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: You download it, you listen to it. I think you'll 547 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: like it. Listen to All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on 548 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or ever you get your podcast. 549 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: We make way for one of the great executives in 550 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: TV history, NBC Universal Sports the Olympics. He also was 551 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: one of the creators of Saturday Night Live. Oh. By 552 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: the way, he's Dick Arbersau who joins us on the program. Dick, 553 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: good morning, Thanks for joining us. We wanted to talk 554 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: about twenty five years ago this week, Mohammad Ali lit 555 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: the Olympic torch in Atlanta, and I was curious the 556 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: backstory of that, like, how did you keep that secret 557 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: from everybody, including those who probably worked for you. Well, 558 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: it started dan a few days before Christmas in I 559 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: guess it would have been the Games where in what 560 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: ninety six so have been just Christmas week in ninety five, 561 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: and I was in Billy Paine's office, who was the 562 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: head of those games. He'd gotten the rights to the 563 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: games for Athens, or not Athens, but Atlanta, and he 564 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: went asked by me who had he decided would light 565 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: the cauldron? He said holy Field, And I said, Billy, 566 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's a good idea. I just 567 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: don't think he really had that stature. I know he's 568 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: a local guy, but there's somebody who's much better for this. 569 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: And he said who, And I said, Mohammed Ali. And 570 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: he said, in all earnestness, he said, I think I'll 571 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: have a terrible time trying to sell that here in Atlanta. 572 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: And I said, Billy, it's just it's just not comprehending 573 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: what Ali is all about. At this stage of his life. 574 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: I think he's probably the most beloved person in the 575 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: entire world, other than probably the Pope. He's appreciated by 576 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: young people, by people who are now well beyond their youth, 577 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: who watched his valiant fight for what he thought was right. 578 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: He gave up his prime earning years. The sacrifices were enormous. 579 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: He put everything on the line, and to show you 580 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: how strong he held his opinions, he sat on those 581 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: sidelines for several years, losing that money. And in the 582 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: meantime he really really tested out the court system and 583 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: he won a unanimous verdict from a very very conservative 584 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: US Supreme Court. I think it was eight to nothing. 585 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: He was vindicated, and he went back to fighting again. 586 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: And Billy said, jeez, I don't still don't think I 587 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: know enough. And you remember Lisa lax It worked for 588 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: us at the NBC. She was our primary filmmaker dan Energy. 589 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: I said, I want you to make this film. I 590 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: called Don Hewitt, the Sixty Minutes executive prewster, and he 591 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: had been the most recent interviewer he'd had. Somebody from 592 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: his staff had been in Cuba but two weeks before 593 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: and done an interview with Ali and Lisa cut all 594 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: this stuff together through the ages and we sent it 595 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: to Billy. This would have been in the spring of 596 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: ninety six, and he watched it and he got a 597 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: pretty strong sense of, you know, what this real Ali 598 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: was all about, but he was still a little reluctant. 599 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: And at that point I got off the phone and 600 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: called Andrew Young, who was a prominent member of the 601 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: board for the Atlanta Games, that former ambassador of the 602 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: United Nations, among other things, a big deal in Georgia, 603 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: and I said, you've got to push Billy over the line. 604 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: And within a day he did. And Billy always always 605 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: appreciated that fact. And as Clinton told that, Saint Clinton 606 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: told me the day after the torch lighting, and not 607 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: the torch lighting, but the cauldron lighting in Atlanta, he said, 608 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: when Ali appeared, the world heard the loudest hush in 609 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: human history, because when he came up over the rim 610 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 1: of the stadium and the public saw him, it wasn't 611 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: initially cheers. It was it's kind of an enormous, a 612 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: kind of sound that was just everywhere. And what a 613 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: lot of people forget. They spent a fortune building this 614 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: ramp on the exterior of what became Turner Field so 615 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: that the athletes could gradually walk up five stories and 616 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: come up over the rim of the stadium, as opposed 617 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: to in the past all Olympic ceremonies they come walking 618 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: in some gate into the stadium, but here they just appeared. 619 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: And when they saw the athletes coming up, and then 620 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: they saw Ali emerge, it was just unbelievable. And as 621 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: it was, his courage was on display. And I suggested people, 622 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how often you'll be seen again. Now 623 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: we've just had the anniversary. But watch as he holds 624 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: that torch to light the arrow. I'm not the arrow, 625 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: but the thing that looked like a little rocket that 626 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: was going to shoot up and light the cauldron. And 627 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: the flames are licking back across his forearms, and I 628 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: kept thinking how much longer can you hold this? Because 629 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: it's got to be burning this the top of his arms, 630 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: But he did until this thing lived. He was an amazing, 631 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: amazing character, and I knew him beforehand because of my 632 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: days in wide world of sports at the ABC, but 633 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 1: I did get to know him better through the years 634 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: after that. In fact, Susan gave a birthday party for 635 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: me my fiftieth in ninety seven, and it was in 636 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: a theater off Broadway, and it was the theme was 637 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: this is Your Life And they had cost us play 638 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: the role of was his name Ralph Edwards? Was he 639 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: the host of This is Your Life? Yeah? And he 640 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: had a script inside the book and the voices would go, 641 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: I remember the time, blah blah blah, and all of 642 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: a sudden out would come like Bill Russell and Russell Russell, 643 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: who was and still is a very good friend. That 644 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: goes all the way back to me being a teenage 645 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: production assistant doing NBA games while I was still a 646 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: student at Yale. Russell told this story of the two 647 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 1: of us, not knowing it, or driving up Route five 648 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: from LA to San Francisco, him on his way home 649 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: to Seattle. I didn't know he was doing this, and 650 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: I was in a Porsche. I'd been unceremoniously let go 651 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: by NBC Entertainment at some point before that, so I 652 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: had decided. I woke up one morning, I said, I'm 653 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: going to see if I can make it from Beverly 654 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: Hills to the Saint Francis Hotel in San Francisco and 655 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: under five hours. Insane, I mean, whatever I was thinking. 656 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: So I'm going up Root five at over one hundred 657 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: miles an hour. And I noticed that this bug, this 658 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: Volkswagen Bug hardtops. It keeps getting closer, and he's like 659 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: hanging off the left side of my car, but not 660 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: quite where I can see the driver. And then I 661 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: realized I can't see the driver. And then suddenly the 662 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: thing pulls dead even and the horn starts beeping, and 663 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 1: I look and Russell has leaned forward from the back 664 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: sheet and looked at me, and he's smiling. I know 665 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: he's cackling, because he doesn't laugh. He cackles. And we 666 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: pull off a Route five and he tells me that 667 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: he's gone down to pick up this car. He'd always 668 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: wanted to have a Volkswagen Bug, so he'd remove the 669 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 1: front seats and have an oversized seat put in the 670 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: back of it. And he drove from back there Dan 671 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: and we just stood by the side of the road. 672 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: And he was here when the Hall of Fame ceremonies 673 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: took place recently in Connecticut and Massachusetts. He stayed here 674 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: with Susie and I and his wife and his godson, 675 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: you know, his godson, Sean Kemp junior member. Sean Yeah, yeah, 676 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: played for Seattle. Did did uh Bob Costas know the 677 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: night of the ceremony of the opening ceremonies with the 678 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: torch with Ali? Did he know? No? I never told 679 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: he or Edburgh, and I only had one conversation about it. 680 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: It was somebody else that I don't think you know, 681 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: so I won't mention their name. I just said I 682 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: think these guys are such solid pros that their excitement 683 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: and their immediate recall of anything that was important about 684 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: Ali would easily meet the test. And I didn't tell them. Yeah, 685 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: and they were, you know when you hear the tape. 686 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: Even today, they're both extraordinary. I mean, Edinburgh is truly surprised. 687 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: Dick hes got a bunch of Bayes a famous for 688 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: his oh myyes, yeah, I was just curious um bobs 689 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: A recall was splendid. Oh yeah, Like I mean, you 690 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: had to have complete trust in them and rightfully so 691 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: that you know they would handle the surprise, but they 692 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: would also give you the backdrop of what this moment means, 693 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: that Ali battling Parkinson's um. You know, even Janet Evans 694 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: handing it off to Ali. I forgot about little Janet 695 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: Evans the swimmer there um before I let you go? 696 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: Can I I want to ask one Saturday Night Live question, 697 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: do you remember Eddie Murphy's audition or the reaction to No? 698 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't. And here's the interesting thing. When I went 699 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: back to the show about two years after Lorn left 700 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: the first time. Yeah, we'd started the show together. I 701 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: left after a bunch of years. He stayed for probably 702 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: five or six longer, and then he left and the 703 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: person who succeeded him just didn't know what to do, 704 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: and the show rapidly fell apart. Lauren was asked to 705 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: go back. He still said no. He didn't like Silverman, 706 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: nor did I. But Brandon Tartakoff, who was my best 707 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: friend from college years and until the day he died, 708 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: he talked me into it, and I came back. I 709 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: did not know Eddie other than from being amazed at 710 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: just how funny he was in the few shows I'd 711 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: watched in that period, because the show wasn't very good 712 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: other than him. And when I got there, it took 713 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: me about one week to decide that the quickest way 714 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: to at least send the message out that the show 715 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: was back. I constructed the show that the first three acts, 716 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: which is basically eleven thirty to midnight, that Eddie would 717 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: be in every one of them, and they would be 718 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: ones that he had conceived and worked on with these 719 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: two writers who were his partners in crime come to Comedy, 720 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: Crime all the way until today. They had written all 721 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: his movies, that David Sheffield and Berry blasting. And he 722 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: was eighteen when I got there, eighteen when I got there, 723 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: and he carried the show. I'll tell you one one 724 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: story that you'll just love. So I get back on 725 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: the show for several months, maybe six, and the security 726 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: people have called upstairs at NBC and said that, oh god, 727 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: it's the name of the famous children's show. Mister Rogers 728 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: was downstairs and I wanted to see me, so they 729 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: brought him upstairs and he sat with me, and he 730 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: just told me how disappointed he was that Eddie was 731 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: doing mister Robinson's neighborhood. He thought it was too tough 732 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: on the show, and I said, no, it's as loving 733 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: as you can get. It's him adapting it to the 734 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: circumstances of what a young black kid would fully understand, 735 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: and it probably was already a fan of mister Rogers, 736 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: and he just didn't want to acceptance. I walked him 737 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: down the hall to a room where Eddie was with 738 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: his two writers and they talked him for a while. 739 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: He was charmed by it, but he came back to 740 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: my honest and he still said, I still wish you 741 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: hadn't do it, But I just decided to keep hearing 742 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: it and continued to be one of the two or 743 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: three things the audiences wanted to watch the most, and 744 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: it was a love of characterature. Did you try to 745 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: get mister Rogers on Saturday Night Live with Eddie? But 746 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: factless he didn't want it. He didn't want mister Rogers 747 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: to Aaron where so there were no way on earth 748 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: that he was accept an invitation to come through the show. 749 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 1: So I never made the offer because he was really 750 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: disappointed that I wasn't just ending it there and then 751 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: in my office. Hey Dick, it's great to talk to you. 752 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: As always, I hope you're doing well. My best to 753 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 1: Susan and the family. And thank you again too. You're welcome. 754 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's Dick Eversaw, TV executive Senior Advisor for 755 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: NBC Universal Sports the Olympics, former chairman of NBC Sports, 756 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: once my boss there at NBC. It's one of those 757 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: where when he holds court and he's got a lot 758 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: of stories to tell, a lot of stories to tell. 759 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: But going back and I you know, PAULI said, do 760 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: you realize Costas didn't know that Mohammad Ali was going 761 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: to light the torch? And I said, I can't imagine 762 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: that Bob, being the perfectionist that he is, would allow 763 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: that to happen without at least having a sense of 764 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: the magnitude of this. But you know what Dick Eversaw 765 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: was trying to do is he wanted it to be 766 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: a secret and he wanted the announcers to have the 767 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: same reaction. And Paul, he's done this to me before 768 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: he goes. Look, if I find out something, do you 769 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: want to know it? Or would you rather react, you know, 770 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 1: normally or naturally. And I said, you know, that really depends. 771 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I if I can 772 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 1: add something to it, or I need to do research 773 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: to add something to it. Yeah, pol one that stands 774 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: out about whatever the year was that Brett fav retired 775 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: from the Packers or left the Packers. Jay Glazer called 776 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: in text in and said, I've got a bomb. I've 777 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: got a monster, and we put Jay on hold, and 778 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: I told you to put Jay on without you knowing what. 779 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: Jay had a report. And so when you heard Jay 780 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: Glazer say Brett Farve is going to announce his retirement tomorrow, 781 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: you heard at the same time ever, all our listeners did, 782 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: and it was a I thought it was a cool 783 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, but if I'm hosting the Olympics, I 784 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: would like to know a little bit more. But I mean, 785 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: Bob is such a professional in dick Enberg rest his soul. 786 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: You know, you got the over the top reaction from 787 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: dick Enberg with the oh my and Bob giving you 788 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: the backdrop on Muhammad Ali and the fact that he's 789 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: up there and when you realize he's shaking because he 790 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: has Parkinson's. I worry even I'm watching it. I know 791 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: how it ends, and he can only use one hand 792 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: and those flames are coming up his forearm. But he 793 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: had created such goodwill by nineteen ninety six that if 794 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: you would have said to him in nineteen sixty eight 795 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: or sixty nine or seventy, you know, one day you're 796 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna light the Olympic torch, the flame the cauldron, probably 797 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: would have said, you're crazy. Because I think when Ali 798 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: got back from winning the gold medal in Rome, he 799 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: threw his medal into the river in Louisville. And I 800 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: think there was, you know, a racial situation in Rome, 801 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 1: and he had won the gold medal and he came 802 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: home and he threw his gold medal away. Let's take 803 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: a break. I hope you enjoyed. That might have been 804 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: a little bit out of left field, but just remembering 805 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: that back and uh also Eddie Murphy, if you want 806 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 1: to talk about going from zero to sixty in the 807 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 1: wh when people become an overnight sensation, Eddie Murphy became 808 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: an overnight sensation, like a true overnight sensation. He went 809 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't zero to sixty, it was zero to one hundred. 810 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 1: And he might have started in October, and by December 811 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: he's on magazine covers. He was that big a deal 812 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: back then.