WEBVTT - Karl-Anthony Towns TRADED

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of The Heat Check, We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>huge trade out of fucking nowhere Curly Anthony Towns for

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<v Speaker 1>Julius Randall and friends Dante DiVincenzo. One of the most

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<v Speaker 1>complicated trades in NBA history. A lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>are tippy top of the salary cap game, they can't

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<v Speaker 1>even figure it out. We're gonna try to make some

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<v Speaker 1>sense out of it, as well as cover all the

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<v Speaker 1>latest news from around the league. Fun episode ahead. Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>my man drop that motherfucking beat that should be Rihanna.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say it's rare that a trade just comes

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere and it takes me by surprise, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it almost always. We hear smoke almost always, there's rumors,

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<v Speaker 1>there's developing stories, there's at least some inkling that a

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<v Speaker 1>trade is going to happen. Only rarely do we get

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<v Speaker 1>that Kevin Durant getting sent to the Suns at one

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<v Speaker 1>point thirty in the morning type trade that drags me

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<v Speaker 1>out of a cookout to make a late night TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I say I was absolutely shooketh by Karl

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Towns going to the New York Knicks for Julius

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<v Speaker 1>Randall and Dante DiVincenzo and a bunch of other friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw it coming. I mean we've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. We've been talking about it for years though

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<v Speaker 1>it's like folklore, like never gonna happen. And from the

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<v Speaker 1>looks of things, Carl Anthony Towns didn't see it coming either.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in a facility. How sucky is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the team facility at three am with your pops

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<v Speaker 1>the night before the trade. You show up to a

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<v Speaker 1>we already function the morning after decked in Wolves gear

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<v Speaker 1>and nope, you are gone. Sir Randall also blindsided two

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<v Speaker 1>days before the trade for him, he was at a

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<v Speaker 1>groundbreaking ceremony for a school where he was honored for

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<v Speaker 1>donating one point three million dollars. Leon Rose was there,

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<v Speaker 1>Timms was there to support him to a New York school.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of shady actually, honestly, like both teams were totally

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<v Speaker 1>down for their marquee players to take part in community

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<v Speaker 1>service events, tying them to the city. Non like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, It's like you know you're about to break

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<v Speaker 1>up with your girlfriend and then you allow you allow

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<v Speaker 1>her to go to Eastern dinner with your family, like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do that. You'd be like, oh, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know about that charity event, like they the kids are good.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids are good. Now, don't go, please, don't go.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's bring this thing down into detail. Let's get it first.

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<v Speaker 1>We should probably acknowledge at least this as the very

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<v Speaker 1>first major NBA event in the post WOJ era, which

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to in a second. We're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what happens next after WOJ a new era has begun.

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<v Speaker 1>The trade itself is complex. Friend of the show Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Smith of Spowtrack tweeted, this is one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>complicated trades in NBA history, and that's not being hyperbolic.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, here's what we know. The Wolves receive Julius Randall,

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<v Speaker 1>Dante DiVincenzo, Kaita Bates dop a twenty twenty five top

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<v Speaker 1>lottery protected first round pick via Detroit, which means probably

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be a first round pick. Charlotte Hornet's

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<v Speaker 1>will facilitate the trade because they've got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>caprom players like Da Kwan, Jeffries, Dwayne Washington Junior, who

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is playing overseas, so he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be cut or released, and then brought back and then released.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know he's playing for Belgrade Partisan right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's part of the trade. What are we talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna have to be bought out, sign traded, bought

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<v Speaker 1>out and resigned back in Serbia again. What is he

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<v Speaker 1>getting out of that? By the way, like, what does

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<v Speaker 1>he get cookie? A lot of this is because the

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks are working really hard to balance out the ledger

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<v Speaker 1>it took. They just took on four years, two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty million dollars of Karl Anthony Towns's contract. The

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<v Speaker 1>Wolves get major cap relief. Randall's on a contract year

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<v Speaker 1>with a player option. He's woefully underpaid as a top

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<v Speaker 1>forty player in the league. By the way, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people say that that contract was terrible when he

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<v Speaker 1>was signed to the Knicks. Sounds sounds like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really that terrible right now. According to Keith, here's what

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<v Speaker 1>we do not know yet. How's New York matching the

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<v Speaker 1>salary for Towns? How is he avoiding the hard caps?

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<v Speaker 1>Smith says that the Knicks are already hard cap at

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<v Speaker 1>the second apron and when need destructure this trade to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid a hard cap at the first Apron does Randall

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<v Speaker 1>take on his full trade bonus? Karl Anthony Downs had

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<v Speaker 1>to give it his trade bonus because he's already maxed out.

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<v Speaker 1>What picks? Who are the Hornets getting to help along

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<v Speaker 1>this deal? Why would they even be a part of it? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What are they getting out of it? Finally, how do

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks go about filling out the roster this close

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<v Speaker 1>to camp with limited resources? All of this has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the second Apron hard cap. If the Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>fill out their roster with two players on veteran minimum deals,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll still need to make at least one more deal

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<v Speaker 1>to make the math work, and more likely two more deals. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot going on here. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>remember a trade, even the Russell Westbrook trade, which was

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<v Speaker 1>like really really really complex involving the most teams in

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<v Speaker 1>league history, being disconfusing, How complex is it? Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks immediately waved both Marcus Morris Senior and Chuma Akiki,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Wolves waved Chase on Nd immediately after the

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<v Speaker 1>trade was announced. When it is finalized, we will give

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<v Speaker 1>you all the details. We will have Keith Smith on

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<v Speaker 1>to cover all the details. But for now, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into the emotional personality, human side of the trade, because

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly think it's kind of It's always a dirty game,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was like for me, like wow, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? I was like, I don't know. This

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<v Speaker 1>is it for all of Karl Anthony Towns was false.

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<v Speaker 1>He sat through mischief, He got berated by Jimmy Butler,

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<v Speaker 1>He had a weed smoking co host who could not

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<v Speaker 1>fulfill what he thought everyone thought he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in Andrew Wiggins. The entire team was chaos at times,

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<v Speaker 1>drama at times. Remember we were following Jimmy Butler around

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<v Speaker 1>at practice because he was motherfucking the whole team telling

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<v Speaker 1>him all what that ass and then he ends up

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<v Speaker 1>getting traded like he was one of the only guys

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<v Speaker 1>ten toes down in Minnesota. Never asked for a trade

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<v Speaker 1>in nine years Towns. Apparently, according to the Athletics John Krasinski,

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<v Speaker 1>never saw it coming, like just completely blindsided, out of

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<v Speaker 1>the blue. The word that John used was stunned. He

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<v Speaker 1>did not request this trade. Quote, he has never requested

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<v Speaker 1>a move in nine years here. He had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons. Boy, that franchise, those players have not always

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<v Speaker 1>treated him well. Remember he just got completely cooked by

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<v Speaker 1>the media other teammates, and he's done a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>bring that on. But he did take a back seat

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<v Speaker 1>for Aunt Edwards. He took the back seat for Rudy

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<v Speaker 1>Gobert in the past two years and still managed to

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<v Speaker 1>be an All star. Come on, the only issue that

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<v Speaker 1>we have with Karl Anthony Towns is making sixty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year. Really, his massive contract was so bad

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<v Speaker 1>that new owners were like, he's gotta go. Like literally

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<v Speaker 1>before they even bought the team, they're telling the old owner, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gone, we are getting rid of him. We've already

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<v Speaker 1>paid four first round picks for Rudy Gobert. A voir

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<v Speaker 1>Karl Anthony is what they said. That's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 1>But god damn, this has got a sting. Gott a sting.

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<v Speaker 1>Spent nine seasons in Minnesota. Listen, Minnesota in the winter,

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<v Speaker 1>cold as fuck, lots of white folks. What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't listen. He had the tragedy of the COVID

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<v Speaker 1>year where he lost his mom and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>other family members. And for all the shit that Karl

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Town's gets nationally, he's a beloved figure in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of it's not exactly all hearts and

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<v Speaker 1>roses from Towns' perspective. In terms of the good side

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<v Speaker 1>of things. He gets to work with Tom Thibodeau again,

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<v Speaker 1>his former head coach that was the head coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Timberwolves back in the day. He spent three

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<v Speaker 1>years under Tibbs, and like I didn't think they were

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<v Speaker 1>that close, so very curious. They did have a huge

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<v Speaker 1>amount of respect for each other. Tibbs must have seen

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<v Speaker 1>his growth and thought to himself, I know what I

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<v Speaker 1>can do with him. That's good enough to facilitate and

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<v Speaker 1>sign off on the Randall trade. As for Randall, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wanted to come to New York before Randall. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta give him all the love. If the Knicks win

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<v Speaker 1>a championship because of this trade, Julius Randall should win

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<v Speaker 1>a ring as well. He should also get a ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks fans, of course, love hate relationship with Julius Randall,

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<v Speaker 1>first big free agent to come to New York. No

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<v Speaker 1>one will forget this season where he single handedly carried

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks to the playoffs. They're not gonna also forget

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<v Speaker 1>his injuries the off the court drama that he brought

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<v Speaker 1>to subsequent teams. Bill Simmons said this in his latest podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes quote, I feel like there were some real chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>concerns with Randall, bringing him in under you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of ugly step child of this Villanova four team.

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<v Speaker 1>He's over there, he's underpaid by the fact that he's

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<v Speaker 1>a top fifty guy. He's gonna have to play out

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<v Speaker 1>a position because he's gonna have to play center. Brunston's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have the ball all the time, and they must

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<v Speaker 1>not have liked something all fair comments. I also think

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<v Speaker 1>Julius Randel needs the ball in his handle lot. So

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<v Speaker 1>whether he stays in Minnesota or he gets flipped is

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<v Speaker 1>the next question for me. Are there places that could

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<v Speaker 1>use him? Absolutely? New Orleans could use him again. He's

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<v Speaker 1>eligible to sign a four year, one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one million dollar extension six months after the trade is completed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's happening. As I mentioned, he can

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<v Speaker 1>opt out after this year test free agency, although I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he won't be able to sign for as much

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<v Speaker 1>as he can with the Wolves. But for me, the

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<v Speaker 1>key is whether Julius Randld's gonna be able to stay

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<v Speaker 1>healthy because we've had issues with Julius Randall and that

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<v Speaker 1>for a while now. He's had arthroscopic surgery on his

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<v Speaker 1>left ankle that happened last April. He had season ending

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<v Speaker 1>surgery last spring for the dislocated shoulder that he got

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<v Speaker 1>in January. So Joyce Randall has had some issues. He's

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<v Speaker 1>had some wear and tear. To be fair, Karl Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Towns has head wear in tear as well. But if

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<v Speaker 1>he stays healthy, I think he's an incredibly valuable player

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<v Speaker 1>to someone. Is it Minnesota, I don't know. Also hidden

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<v Speaker 1>under the headlines is like Nick's just discarded Dante DiVincenzo

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Villanova four. All of the Villanova boys

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<v Speaker 1>thought that the band was back together. It was Dante,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Josh Hart, it was Jalen Brunson. They were

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<v Speaker 1>coercing Michale to come over. Hey, we're having so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as they get together, they don't even

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<v Speaker 1>get one fucking game together. They don't even get training

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<v Speaker 1>camp together for all that good stuff that they're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Rumors though, are that Dante DiVincenzo maybe was not as

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<v Speaker 1>happy with the Nova reunion as first let on because

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<v Speaker 1>he got moved to the bench pretty damn quick. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though we know he could be a very valuable contributor

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<v Speaker 1>to a playoff team. How do we know that, because

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<v Speaker 1>he was a very valuable contributor to the Knicks last postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's exactly what the Wolves need, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>a really good three point shooter, third best in the

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<v Speaker 1>league three point shooter. Now that Karl Anthony Towns is gone,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have to step up. He's gonna get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of touches. He's a really good defender on the wing.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people feel that with Randall almost certain to opt

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<v Speaker 1>out of his contract after next year, Dante was actually

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<v Speaker 1>a key part of the trade. I think this trade

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<v Speaker 1>does not I'm certain this trade does not get done

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<v Speaker 1>without Dante being in it. So now we have to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the big question. Who won the trade who?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with New York. I think he's a net win, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>taking a consideration that Mitchell Robinson was out till January

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<v Speaker 1>at least, and by the way, we know Mitchell Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>not only does he have one injury one boo boo,

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<v Speaker 1>one booboo leads the two two boo boo, three boo

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<v Speaker 1>boo four boo boo, Like he played two games in

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason last year and out for the rest of postseason,

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<v Speaker 1>and what do they have? That's why they had Isaiah Hartenstein,

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<v Speaker 1>and Isaiah Hartenstein ended up having to play starting center

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<v Speaker 1>minutes and then ended up getting the bag from ok

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<v Speaker 1>See because all of a sudden, now we know what

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Hartenstein can do, Like if Mitchell Robinson doesn't get hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>we probably don't see what Isaiah Hartenstein is capable of.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the Knicks get Isaiah back on a cheap deal,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they don't have to even get Carl at

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<v Speaker 1>the day. Towns all of this because Mitchell Robinson cannot

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<v Speaker 1>stay healthy. So January twenty twenty five, best case for

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Robinson, you had no backup center. You've got Julius

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<v Speaker 1>Random playing center, you got oj and Obi playing center,

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<v Speaker 1>Precious playing precious, a chew Youia playing center. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. No. I think Towns is an elite three

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<v Speaker 1>point shooter, especially as a big in this league. For

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<v Speaker 1>available centers, available shooters, He's the number one pick, number

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<v Speaker 1>one guy you could get number one guy that was available,

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<v Speaker 1>pick and rolls. Pick and pops with Brunson are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be danger like just really really good. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be really hard to defend the Knicks. You're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about pick and pop one two man game with Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns, and then you got og

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<v Speaker 1>Nanobi in one corner and Michael Bridges in another corner.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you defending that? I don't know. You got

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<v Speaker 1>Karl Anthony Towns who doesn't need the ball in his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Julius Randall did. We would watch Julius Randall have the

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<v Speaker 1>ball dble dobble, dribble, jobber jebble, step back contested like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds. It's like twenty seconds out of twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>seconds in the shot clock. Karl Anthony Towns can play

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<v Speaker 1>in the half court, he can lurk over the line,

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<v Speaker 1>he can run on the fast break, he can slash,

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<v Speaker 1>he can rebound, he can defend. And this is excellent

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<v Speaker 1>news for Knicks fans, who I think probably are now

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<v Speaker 1>the second best team in the East. Pretty clearly, Philly

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<v Speaker 1>has gotta be punching air right now. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks fans are elated with this news. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks fans are pissed now in terms of the Wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>they now escape cap Hell. They figure out a way

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<v Speaker 1>to get the ownership group to feel happy and content

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<v Speaker 1>with the way that this roster is structured. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>nas Reid Nazrid, in my opinion, on a very cheap

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<v Speaker 1>contract and not that much worse than Karl Anthony Towns.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've basically got a little baby Karl Anthony Towns

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just been clogged up by Karl Anthony Towns.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's making like thirteen million a year instead of

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<v Speaker 1>sixty million a year. And the Wolves couldn't play Gobert

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<v Speaker 1>Noried and Karl Anthony Towns at the same time it

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<v Speaker 1>was clogging up the lanes. Anthony Edwards looked worse. In fact,

0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the offense worked best when Karl Anthony Towns got hurt

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<v Speaker 1>last year and the year before. The only reason it

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<v Speaker 1>ended up working in general ever, where they went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Western Conference finals is because Chris Finch, the head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>is a genius. But let's be honest, wasn't the best fit.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am a little concerned at the timing. You

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Western Conference Finals and you break the

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<v Speaker 1>band up. You break the band up. They beat the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Denver Nuggets, the defending champs, and you break the

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<v Speaker 1>band up. Man. I know that the Cap situation was tenuous,

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<v Speaker 1>but from a hoop standpoint, I think Dante DiVincenzo is

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<v Speaker 1>the key piece to make this deal work. From a

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<v Speaker 1>basketball standpoint as well. Like I said, fourth best three

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<v Speaker 1>point shooter in the league, shot forty four from three

0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.520
<v Speaker 1>last year, set an all time Knicks record for made threes.

0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.600
<v Speaker 1>He brings spacing defense to a team that needs it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he unlocks ant And then for Julius,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he he now has an opportunity to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a third or fourth fiddle. He can play the

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<v Speaker 1>role that Cap played in terms of where he falls

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<v Speaker 1>on the court, but he's tougher, he's stronger. He's not

0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.320
<v Speaker 1>as good of a shooter, but he can shoot a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. He can down to three people. Forget he

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<v Speaker 1>shot forty one percent from deep to twenty twenty one.

0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:09.480
<v Speaker 1>The Wolves get spacing, depth, toughness, cap relief, and now

0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you've got a spot for Nazri to really flourish, which

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<v Speaker 1>made Karl Anthony Towns expendable. So it's very exciting The

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<v Speaker 1>move was made in part, I think to maximize Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Edwards in his window. According to the Athletic, Randall's modest

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one million dollar contract and his ability to opt

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<v Speaker 1>out next year helps, And as Krasinski said, the Wolves

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure Edwards could be on a competitive

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<v Speaker 1>playoff team for more, for much longer than just the

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<v Speaker 1>next two years, and believe the flexibility this move provides

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<v Speaker 1>will aid this pursuit, especially considering that the Wolves are

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<v Speaker 1>going to need to pay Naz Reid more money. Cam

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<v Speaker 1>and Karl Anthony Towns making one hundred million dollars together

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<v Speaker 1>no chance. And you've got Nikail Alexander Walker there, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can't lose both of those guys because they were

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<v Speaker 1>very crucial to helping you be the Denver Nuggets. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's tough to pick out a loser or

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<v Speaker 1>a winner from a cap standpoint. The Wolves win. From

0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the knick standpoint, they feel a need that they really had.

0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a win win if Kat doesn't work

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<v Speaker 1>out in New York. In the top comment under the

0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.760
<v Speaker 1>trade news from Scham's was don't come to New York

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<v Speaker 1>and be a bitch. That was what it was like, literally,

0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.639
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people saying Karl Anthony Towns is

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<v Speaker 1>soft and he cannot cut it. And there's a lot

0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of people saying that Julius Randall is soft and he

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<v Speaker 1>can't cut it in a big market either. So it's

0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.359
<v Speaker 1>good that he's going to Minnesota. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna see how he's received. It's a very tough

0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:41.480
<v Speaker 1>fan base. Whether he'll be happy is a real question.

0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.080
<v Speaker 1>He was a Knicks fan growing up. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating to see how this thing goes. The salary could

0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.399
<v Speaker 1>become a boat anchor for the Knicks. They better fucking

0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:53.080
<v Speaker 1>win fast. From a play standpoint, most pundits believe that

0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks won the trade, some arguing that the Wolves

0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.399
<v Speaker 1>got significantly worse because integrating Randall into the offense and

0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.280
<v Speaker 1>defense will require him to buy in, and Randall doesn't

0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.160
<v Speaker 1>normally buy in. But remember Randall played for Chris Finch

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<v Speaker 1>for New Orleans. Chris Finch knew how to maximize him

0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and he had an awesome year. So this is fascinating,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most interesting trades in recent memory. Both

0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.800
<v Speaker 1>teams could get better, both teams could be regretting it

0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 1>by January. Trades like this make the NBA so fucking

0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.919
<v Speaker 1>fun because we're gonna be dissecting this for many, many ages.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Moving on, lots of news from around the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Out in Indiana, there was a different kind of shock

0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:39.840
<v Speaker 1>news the Pacers. The Indiana Pacers signed jalil okafor the

0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>former number three pick in the draft. Back in thought

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<v Speaker 1>how long ago was that twenty fifteen for a training

0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:53.399
<v Speaker 1>camp deal. I haven't thought about julil okafor since, probably

0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, because he last played in the NBA in

0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic season twenty twenty. Where has he been, I

0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:05.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know. He's been playing in China, Mexico. He's gonna

0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.200
<v Speaker 1>be trying to make a comeback in the league. But

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.480
<v Speaker 1>here's the shocking thing. When you think about Jeel, you're like, dude,

0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.159
<v Speaker 1>it's like a million He's been out the league for

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<v Speaker 1>longer than I can even remember. But he's only twenty eight.

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:20.280
<v Speaker 1>He came into the league at twenty, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he was overweight six' eleven two hundred and seventy five,

0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:26.960
<v Speaker 1>pounds never really quite caught on tough one for The

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<v Speaker 1>sixers at a, time when the league was transitioning fully

0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.919
<v Speaker 1>to three point shooting. Bigs he might actually be valuable right,

0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.840
<v Speaker 1>now we're getting back to the bruisers down, Low, like

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.080
<v Speaker 1>we don't need all of our bigs to shoot threes right.

0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Now he was a. Throwback we kind of like throwbacks right.

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Now last year saw this renaissance that the traditional big

0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 1>teams are scrambling to add rim. Protectors Now jalale gets

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 1>another chance In indiana to resurrect his. CAREER i like,

0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:55.000
<v Speaker 1>This Chad, buchanon good for, you, Brother way to give

0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.159
<v Speaker 1>a guy another, chance a guy that a lot of

0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.560
<v Speaker 1>people were very high on when he got. Drafted if

0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.119
<v Speaker 1>he catched on a lot of big men who were

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.399
<v Speaker 1>run out of the league before their, time might just

0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:09.199
<v Speaker 1>be looking for their own. Comebacks all. Right moving On Jose,

0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Alvarado grand Theft, Alvarado, baby he just signed an extension

0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.639
<v Speaker 1>with The pelicans and a lot of rival fan bases

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 1>are fucking. Pissed. Why you might, ask, well what did

0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.960
<v Speaker 1>grand Theft alvarado? Do according to multiple fan, bases he

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:30.399
<v Speaker 1>signed for too little. Money according To, Shams alverado signed

0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.520
<v Speaker 1>a two, year nine million dollar extension with the player

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<v Speaker 1>option for twenty twenty, six twenty twenty. SEVEN i don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that does feel like too, small. Paus it does

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<v Speaker 1>feel like not not enough money to be. Fair it

0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 1>feels like he could be he could have signed for not,

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 1>double but maybe like thirty percent. More it's the same

0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 1>contract That Nikil Alexander walker signed In. Minnesota and Remember

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Nikkeil Alexander walker was ran out Of New, orleans did

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<v Speaker 1>not play really a single. Minute how little is four

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. Million Kevin garnett right now still makes

0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:08.639
<v Speaker 1>five million dollars a year on a deferred salary from The.

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Celtics The celtics players who make more Than alvarado Include Drew,

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>eubanks the Ten Day, God Nick, Richards Johnny, davis the

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 1>buss that went to The Washington, Wizards Uzman, jang whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of. TEAMS i think Pay alvarado ten million a.

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<v Speaker 1>YEAR i think this is him betting on. Himself when

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<v Speaker 1>he opts out in twenty twenty, SIX i think there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot of bidders for his, services which

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:38.119
<v Speaker 1>is pretty damn, good pretty pretty damn good for the

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<v Speaker 1>undrafted free. Agent all, Right speaking of extensions out IN,

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 1>la The clippers just Extended Terrence man three years forty seven.

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Million that keeps him there till twenty seven to twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>eight which is the natural byproduct Of Paul george moving

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<v Speaker 1>on To. Philly not only did that free up the

0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.600
<v Speaker 1>money to Extend, man but now it is clear he's

0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:00.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be a major part of their offense. Forward,

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<v Speaker 1>Listen i've been fucking talking Up Terrence man for. Years,

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<v Speaker 1>now give this man his opportunities nearly sixteen million dollars a.

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<v Speaker 1>Year it might seem to people that he is on

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<v Speaker 1>the cusp of being, overpaid BUT i don't think. SO

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.199
<v Speaker 1>i don't think. SO i think he's a bargain at sixteen.

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Million clipper fans know. This nearly all The clipper websites

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>are hailing the signing the extension Of Eva kazubac as.

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Well they are key cornerstones for rebuilding this franchise When

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 1>kawi leonard inevitably gets traded this year because they just

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:35.200
<v Speaker 1>cannot handle that contract and his injury woes. Anymore Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>west my dearly departed, friend Loved Terrence. Man he's gonna

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>step into a lot of minutes That Paul george. ABANDONED

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>i think this could be a breakout year for him

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and a guy that's just a really good kid and

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.639
<v Speaker 1>athletic and strong and put up some huge performances in

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs a few years ago for The. CLIPPERS i

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<v Speaker 1>think this gives a little bit of hope to a

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 1>team searching for reasons to pay those big prices at

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>their new, stadium The Into It. Dome all, right let's

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<v Speaker 1>move forward a little bit of sad news to report

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone who's been a hoops fan for the past fifteen.

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Years one of the truly great players of his. Generation

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 1>guy who REALLY i WISH i would have known what

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>he would have become if you wouldn't have gotten. Injured

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<v Speaker 1>Is Derrick rose has announced his retirement from THE. Nba

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who saw him play before the, INJURY i don't

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>think anybody forgets. It it was. Electric he was the

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<v Speaker 1>youngest player ever to WIN mvp at twenty, two and

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>as we, know career derailed by injuries to the point

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>where he was though able to add valued all six

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>teams he played, for though nowhere in his career was

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<v Speaker 1>anyone unhappy with having him on the, team and that Includes,

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 1>memphis where he had a horrible. Season but they were

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>still happy to have him. There he was the get back.

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<v Speaker 1>Man rose requested a waiver from The, grizzlies knowing that

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>he'd have to give back the money rather than phone

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it in for a year and probably get. Waived that's

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>a good, guy good move For Dereck. Rose Love Dereck.

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<v Speaker 1>Rose one of the great what ifs IN nba. History

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 1>what if he never tore HIS acl in twenty. Twelve

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<v Speaker 1>first four years were as good as almost anyone IN nba,

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<v Speaker 1>History and although of course he played more another ten,

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<v Speaker 1>years in fact never the. Same he would be the

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<v Speaker 1>first to tell you that it's gonna Be it's. Strange

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be strange to be watching THE nba and

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<v Speaker 1>Know Derrick. Rose he put a full page ad in

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 1>the newspaper in all six cities that he, played and

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<v Speaker 1>now he'll have more time to dedicate to his. PASSION

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't know about a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are forgetting. About he held a huge chess tournament

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<v Speaker 1>in the offseason that was apparently a big. Hit more

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<v Speaker 1>power to. Him he is now fully leaning in to.

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<v Speaker 1>Chess he will be missed and you will always be

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<v Speaker 1>brought up when you bring UP, nba who was the

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<v Speaker 1>most exciting young player that you ever saw and wish

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<v Speaker 1>you could have seen. More and, finally lots of shenanigans

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes AT espn right now in the skulduggery

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<v Speaker 1>to replace wog the leader in the clubhouse was friend

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<v Speaker 1>of Show Sean, serna who's been guest hosting On pat McAfee.

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<v Speaker 1>Show and a lot of people thought was the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that woj LEFT. Espn he's out of contract, now might

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<v Speaker 1>be at least obvious or logical that he would be

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<v Speaker 1>the heir apparent to go TO espn and break. News

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<v Speaker 1>but then this, happened and Then i'm, like, Okay woch

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<v Speaker 1>still pulling strings behind the scenes even when you're out

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<v Speaker 1>of the. League by, god That's Adrian wojanowski's. Music out of,

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere a dark horse candidate has emerged as the head

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<v Speaker 1>OF nba newsbreaker at The Worldwide. Leader so who is

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<v Speaker 1>it is it is a guy Like Brian, windhorst a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran of THE nba, beat someone deeply connected to players

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<v Speaker 1>in front offices with a ton of, experience or is

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<v Speaker 1>it a guy Like Jeff? Passon what the? Fuck Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>passon covers Major League, baseball who, never as far AS

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<v Speaker 1>i can, tell has broken any news about THE. Nba

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<v Speaker 1>he is now the guy rumored to Be woj's hand pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Successor remember last, EPISODE i, said Is wojes trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hand over the business like He's tony soprano as not

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<v Speaker 1>h like is woj getting a piece of the passing?

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<v Speaker 1>PIE i would not be. Surprised this is LIKE i,

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<v Speaker 1>said when the financial advisor hands their entire book over

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody like their little, nephew and now all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden they're managing a billion dollars in assets center.

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<v Speaker 1>Management the level of petty Against schams is off the.

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<v Speaker 1>Charts If Jeff passon becomes the LEADING nba, newsbreaker everyone

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<v Speaker 1>should be. Pissed and Remember schams was Like woj's mentee At.

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<v Speaker 1>Yalloo he was seventeen eighteen working Underneath woj and now

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<v Speaker 1>they fucking hate each. Other it is. Crazy if this

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<v Speaker 1>happens And I'm Tim legler Or Brian windhorst Or Zach,

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<v Speaker 1>LOW i. AM i am absolutely. Heated by the, way

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<v Speaker 1>just terrible news that THE espn let go Of Zach

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<v Speaker 1>low this. Week they are very unserious right, now the

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<v Speaker 1>worldwide leader is not that right, now they're the worldwide

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<v Speaker 1>smoking that. Weader as for, SHAMS i think you should

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<v Speaker 1>just go TO. Nbc fuck OVER. Espn it's dirty, business,

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<v Speaker 1>folks dirty business in THE nba when you want to break.

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<v Speaker 1>News that's all the time that we have for this

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