1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: From Mediator's World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: Kel's We Can Review with Ryan kel Kell and now 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Here's kel Drama and the Deer Stand. Two Michigan brothers 4 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: had to lean on the assistance of a Newego County 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: conservation officer. Newego County is located kind of on the 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: first knuckle of your ring finger if you adhere to 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: the Mitten State reference of Michigan, just north of Grand Rapids, 8 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: if you don't acquiring to Michigan Live. Conservation Officer Mike 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: Well started to investigate the family dispute after he received 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: a hunter harassment complaint. Hunter harassment is described by the 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: State of Michigan as Michigan law prohibits individuals from obstructing 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: or interfering with the lawful taking of animals. The Department 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: of Natural Resources supports hunting as a legitimate form of 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: recreation and as a useful tool in the management of 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: the wildlife resource. Michigan conservation officers are committed to protecting 16 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: hunters from the intentional disruption of the hunting experience. Hunter 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: harassment is a misdemeanor offense in Michigan. When conservation officer 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Wells spoke with the accusing brother prior to Michigan's deer Opener. 19 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Officer Wells was given evidence of the other brother, the 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: accused trying to well, I'll use the legally's provided by 21 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: the State of Michigan. He was attempting to obstruct or 22 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: interfere with the lawful taking of wildlife by using a 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: backpack sprayer like you see people use for weeds to 24 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: spray what was later determined to be a product called 25 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 1: liquid Fence deer and rabbit repellent. You know liquid Fence, 26 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: the brand with such slogans as hit them in the 27 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: nose and they won't come back, uh, invisible barrier, clear results, 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: and my personal favorite, give no admittance no matter how cute. 29 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: Slogan like that could get you a government contract on 30 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: South anyway, the accusing brother identified the backpack sprayer as 31 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: his brother and identified the location of the stand on 32 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: us for a service ground next to the family deer camp. 33 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: The accused brother was interviewed by a conservation officer Wells 34 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: as he was attempting to illegally hunt over bait on 35 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: the morning of Michigan's firearms Opener. Probably not a good start. 36 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: The accused brother admitted that he had sprayed his brother's blinds, 37 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: but only because his brother was quote intentionally cutting off 38 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: the deer by hunting the public land next to camp. 39 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: He also admitted that he let his emotions get the 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: best of him and apologized, not entirely clear if he 41 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: apologized to the brother or the conservation officer. Either way, 42 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: a warrant request has been submitted for both hunter harassment 43 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: and baiting deer when prohibited. Hopefully that's the last uncomfortable 44 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: family situation Conservation Officer Welles has to deal with anytime soon, 45 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: Probably not the last for the brothers and their deer 46 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: camp as well. Come into Christmas this week, We've got 47 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: a bunch more on Michigan, the current status of Campbell Lake, 48 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: and maybe why you shouldn't to come. But first I'm 49 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: gonna tell you about my week. I actually helped out 50 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: a first time hunter on the back forty property we 51 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: have in the state of Michigan. As Mark Kenyon would say, 52 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: the back forty is stingy with its deer. Going out 53 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: with someone who has never hunted before is great even 54 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: when you aren't seeing deer. If you're doing it right, 55 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: there's so much learning to be done that you really 56 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: need some time in the woods before deer actually get involved. 57 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Time in the woods is always a win in my opinion. 58 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: You can see all this first time perspective as well 59 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: as where we ended up on the Back forty for 60 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: the entirety of the season. Check it out on episode eight, 61 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: only found on our meat eat or YouTube channel. I 62 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: just watched episode six and seven. It's really good stuff. 63 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: I even got to use a brand new Steel Firm 64 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Boss model chainsaw and help Mark buck up a bunch 65 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: of firewood for his house thing rips. Just like all 66 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: my awesome steel power equipment. Get a chance, you get 67 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: a hanker and do some work on your own. Check 68 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: out steal dot com s t I h L dot 69 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: com and check out their amazing line of power tools 70 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: that cut clean, quick and easy to help you out. 71 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: Whether you consider yourself a FIM boss or not, I don't, 72 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: but I still used it and it worked great. Looking 73 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: at the Back forty property and placing it in the 74 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: context of what I know, which is Montana or Idaho 75 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: white tail, it would be the most overrun white tail 76 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: spot you could imagine. There wasn't much feed in late 77 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: December but the property has an overwhelming white tail feel 78 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: to it. For this Montana kid a swamp runs through 79 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: the middle lots of tall cover and fallow fields and 80 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: get a mix of young and old hardwoods, even some brush. 81 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Despite this, very few deer, which was perplexing until I 82 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: looked at the back forty in the context of a 83 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: white tail state. Every property around our project piece has 84 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: been managing for white tail for a while, and it 85 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: appeared post strut those neighbor deer didn't have much need 86 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: to move on to our chunk, which of course starts 87 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: you to think, what do we need. We have cover 88 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: and water, so maybe we need a ton of food sources. 89 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: But the neighbors have that and it's already been established, 90 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: so maybe we need higher quality food sources and better 91 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: stuff and more of it. And my mind kind of 92 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: kept going on from there until I thought of what 93 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: Eisenhower said, beware the military industrial complex, in this case, 94 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: the white tail industrial complex, where each property is its 95 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: own nation, creating buying, stacking up arms in the form 96 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: of specialty feeds and food plots, altering their landscapes in 97 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: a way that could funnel dear channel, dear deter dear 98 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: from doing whatever they don't want to do or hide deer, 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: attracting supplements, and above all serious white tail business, leading 100 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: me to ask where does it all end? Although the 101 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: back forty was again stingy with its deer, a few 102 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: of the neighbors we ran into were not stingy with 103 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: their dear. They offered to let us all come out 104 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: and shoot white tailed does, which was very generous but 105 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: again got me to thinking, likely is not. Since Mark 106 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: is a trusted guy, we got the invite, we had 107 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: an end, so to speak. It was for white tail does, 108 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: which are more plentiful than bucks. These folks typically don't 109 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: divert a ton of time, energy and money into these 110 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: properties without having bucks on their mind and big ones. 111 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: The natural flow of generosity would likely be that the 112 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: owner and the owner's immediate family would probably have the 113 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: DIBs on the bucks on the property, then maybe some 114 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: close friends and possibly once in a while a special case, 115 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: which I totally get. That's how it goes again. I've 116 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: seen the work that gets put into these properties firsthand, 117 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: and people naturally want to reap what they sell. But 118 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: what if eventually these properties build and build and the 119 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: price of things go up. One could foresee that eventually 120 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: only the inner circle would be able to hunt, kill, 121 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: and harvest antlerd animals. Not a big deal at all 122 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: if you are truly just interested in meat, and again 123 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: in you have the access to get that meat. This 124 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: theoretical situation I just spun up a kind of white 125 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: tail vending machine of sorts, would be a transactional hunting experience. 126 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: Show up, get your deer, which, to be clear, I 127 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: have done on the uncle's alfalfa field many times after 128 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: fruitless or frustrating seasons. Show up, get a door, two, 129 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: getting the groceries, so to speak, and I'm on my way. 130 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: The benefit to hunting both antlers and meat is it 131 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: forces a hunter to be more selective. By being selective, 132 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: you could call yourself a trophy hunter. If you want 133 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: waiting and passing animals up until that animal meets whatever 134 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: criteria you've come up with and you intersect with that animal, 135 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: you ultimately will not be as successful. Being selective is 136 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: for those with the luxury of time. In order to 137 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: be successful, you have to spend more time in the woods, 138 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: which is a phenomenally awesome benefit to being quote unsuccessful. Anyway, 139 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: that type of thinking sure makes me appreciate and value 140 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: the public land opportunities we have and the failures and 141 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: successes that can be found on them. I am not 142 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: aiming to offend anyone currently managing for deer on their properties. 143 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: This is just an honest bit of pondering I was 144 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: doing on our chunk of private property there in Michigan, 145 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: thinking where does this all go? What's the end game? 146 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: Moving on to our baiting desk with an update, I've 147 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: been talking about Michigan, so of course I need to 148 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: talk about baiting in Michigan, as some Weekend review listeners 149 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: love the topic. Uh, here we go. I asked a 150 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: couple of Native Michiganders as to their thoughts in the 151 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: bating band. Before we get into their quote, it's all 152 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: lay of the situation out in very simple terms. People 153 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: who are probating or not averse debating seemed to fall 154 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: on the argument that deer have so much natural contact 155 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: with each other that laying out a bait pile will 156 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: not spread disease any more than dear interaction without baiting. 157 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: People who do not like baiting point to the fact 158 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: that the U S D A, U S G S 159 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: and a bunch of other state agencies state that at 160 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: baiting helps spread diseases like bovine TB, c w D, 161 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: and brucellosis. Each state management agency has their own position 162 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: on where, when, and if you can feed wildlife. Meat 163 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: Eater's resident white tail addict, Mark Kenyon has this to say, quote, 164 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: I have nothing against legal baiting, but I'll always air 165 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: on the side of caution and science when it comes 166 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: to disease concerns. Yes, dear come into contact with each 167 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: other all the time, presenting ample opportunity for the spread 168 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: of disease like c w D, But studies have shown 169 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: that baiting can speed disease transmission even further. If the 170 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: regulation or banning of baiting can help negate that to 171 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: any degree, it seems worthwhile. In my eyes the way 172 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: I see it, the long term health and viability of 173 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: the resource is ultimately more important than any hunting tool, tactic, 174 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: or tradition. Stephen Ronella has this to say, at the 175 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: time of me writing this, I don't have any particular 176 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: gripe with dear baiting. What would change my mind is 177 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: research demonstrating that baiting does in fact initiate contact between 178 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: deer that would otherwise not intermingle, either directly or through 179 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: immediate chains of association, not through sharing betting areas or 180 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: playing grab bass during the rut, or hanging around scrapes 181 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: are coming and going from corn fields down the same trail, 182 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: or yarding up in cedar swamps during the winter, or 183 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: hanging around the farmer's haystacks and the deep snow. That 184 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: seems like it would be an easy study to design. 185 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: Who knows, Maybe it's being done right now. But I'll 186 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: bring up a different thing about baiting that doesn't get 187 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: talked about much. When I was a kid growing up 188 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: in Michigan, our reliance on deer bait during archery season 189 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: prevented us from becoming good bow hunters. Instead of learning 190 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: beautiful intricacies of natural deer patterns and movements, we just 191 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: learned that they'll come and eat carrots if you dump 192 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: them into the woods. In the end, I think we 193 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: would have killed more deer and bigger deer if we 194 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: hadn't been so damn lazy and unimaginative at the time. 195 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have liked the state telling me not to 196 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: use bait, but I would have appreciated hearing about it 197 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: from someone with a little common sense. Now, as many 198 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: listeners keyed into my position, certainly leads towards the do 199 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: not bait in areas with disease or suspected disease side 200 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: of things. But I don't have a dog in this fight. 201 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: When I just hunted in Michigan, I didn't use bait. 202 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: I likely will not go use bait anywhere else. It's 203 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: just not my style. But I'm not condemning you if 204 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: you do. I just think, you know, you should think 205 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: about the whole picture. I rely on the people we 206 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: call experts, and disease transmission work is in fact thoroughly 207 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: researched from what I have read, primarily from the Bacterial 208 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: Diseases of Livestock Research Unit, National Animal Disease Center, Agricultural 209 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: Research Service U s d A. Additionally, the Alabama Wildlife 210 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: Federation has a great paper where they have compiled an 211 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: incredible amount of peer review. You would work from biologists, zoologists, episoologists, 212 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: all the folks that went to school much longer than 213 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: I did, complete with all of their sources on the subject. 214 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: It is beyond doubt that deer can and do transmit 215 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: disease in shared feed situations, Whether that is in a 216 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: captive facility, a feed lot, a backyard feeder with no 217 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: hunting in mind, or a bait pile intended to attract 218 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: dear for the purposes of hunting. However, I'm not found 219 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: a study that says baiting initiates contact between deer that 220 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: would have not otherwise intermingled. I think that one would 221 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: be tough to prove in a natural setting. But again, 222 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to let you know where I'm getting 223 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: my information. Now for the update currently in the state 224 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: of Michigan, and this from the d NR website. D 225 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: n R offices around the state continue to field questions 226 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: from people confused about the status of the Baiting and 227 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: Feeding Band for deer and elk in the Lower Peninsula 228 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: and the core c w D surveillance area in the 229 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: Upper Peninsula. The DNR wants to let all hunters know 230 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: that the band has not changed and remains fully in effect. Now, 231 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: a much modified baiting bill aimed at lifting the band 232 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: has been approved by the Senate in the House and 233 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: it's currently sitting on the Governor's desk. The governor has 234 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: promised to veto the legislation should it come to her desk. 235 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: It's on her desk now, which means for all of 236 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: you who want to bait or don't want to bait, 237 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: you have to make the governor's phone ring and let 238 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: her staff know your thoughts. If you have to borrow phone. 239 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Make sure you wash your hands frequently and cover your 240 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: mouths before you cough. It is Christmas and you'll be 241 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: mixing it up with a lot of people and social 242 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: feeding situations. Moving with an update on the tricky issue 243 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: of Campbell Lake and Anchorage. As previously discussed here on 244 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: the Weekend Review episode twenty three, Evil h o A 245 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: S steelhead closures and bear spray. The question was is 246 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: Campbell Lake public and can it be accessed by the public? 247 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: Sure an answer yes, which has caused for applause. The 248 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: real and more complicated answer is and this is a 249 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: quote directly from the Alaska Landmine that first covered this story. 250 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: Although the state and the municipality of Anchorage have now 251 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: confirmed the legality of public access and use of Campbell Lake, 252 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: existing access is clearly deficient for routine public use. The 253 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: easeman on the south side of the lake remains undeveloped 254 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: and encumbered by a private floatplane dock, while the eastman 255 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: on the north side of the lake appears to be 256 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: blocked by a house. According to the joint statement, if 257 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: you are interested, you can access Campbell Lake by boating 258 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: or skiing into it via Campbell Creek, landing in an aircraft, 259 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: accessing the lake via an easeman on the south side 260 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: of the lake, or accessing the lake via an easement 261 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: on the north side of the lake. The document states 262 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: that the Department of Natural Resources, which manages section line 263 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: ease months, has never authorized private obstructions of these ease months. 264 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: That's the latest on Campbell Lake. I'll get you up 265 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: to date as soon as I hear more. I'm sure 266 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: we will again. You can see the entirety of this 267 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: story by looking up the Alaska Landmine dot com, well journalism, 268 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: and the home to Explosive Alaska News. The reason I 269 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: feel it is so necessary to cover easman issues is 270 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: because so much of our easy access to public resources 271 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: like Campbell Lake, for an example, U S Forest Service 272 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: ground BLM, rivers and streams in the US is through 273 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: established ease months. We need to pay attention to these 274 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: issues when they arise. Wherever they arise, it could happen 275 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: in your backyard next, or I guess, in the case 276 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: of Campbell Lake, through your backyard if you've chosen to 277 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: ignore an easeman. Moving on to our anthropology desk, this 278 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: one will make you think about all that gum stuck 279 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: on the bottom of park benches in college deaths. Fifty 280 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: seven hundred year old piece of chewed birch tar has 281 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: been analyzed, revealing a bunch of cool stuff about the 282 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: chew or the so called gum, which was found in 283 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: the construction side of the Pherremon Belt fixed linked tunnel 284 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: which will connect the Danish island of Lowland with the 285 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: German island of Fairmont. The birch gum perfectly preserved that 286 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: yours DNA, revealing that she was a she with quote 287 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: a striking combination of dark hair, dark skin, and blue eyes. 288 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: Researchers have named her Lola. Lola likely came from hunter 289 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: gatherers from continental Europe, and she likely could not process milk. 290 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: This combination apparently has been documented before with other European 291 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: hunter gatherers, including a ten thousand year old British skeleton 292 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: called cheddar Man. When one group refers to their specimen 293 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: as both striking and names her Lola and the other 294 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: as cheddar man. That may say more about the researchers 295 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: than their specimens or best woman in the case we're 296 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: talking about right now again. Through the analysis of the 297 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: birch gum, Lola had been eating duck and hazel nuts, 298 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: which sounds like pretty good diet to me. However, if 299 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: you are a gum chewer when perhaps you should be 300 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: brushing instead, it may dismay you to hear that the 301 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: Danish team identified bacteria similar to plaque in ginge alice. Additionally, 302 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: they found strepped caucus pneumonia and epstein bar virus, which 303 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: brings the weekend review back to herpies. Epstein Bar is 304 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: one of the most common forms of herpes and is 305 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: often associated with mono and a host of other things 306 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: that do not sound like any fun anyway. Birch sap 307 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: was used as an adhesive of sorts or a bonding 308 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: agent for the building and fixing of all sorts of things, 309 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: and this practice of chewing sap has been documented all 310 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: over the world. It didn't just start with demons chewing gum, 311 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: meaning all over the world we could potentially have these 312 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: little chewed up time capsules that give us this very 313 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: clear window into individual peoples. This could lead to a 314 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: bunch of cool things, but of course it will also 315 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: bring up a bunch of questions. The question you may 316 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: be asking yourself right now, and maybe you should, is 317 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: what will people find out about you if you're leaving 318 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: your gum around? So to you on that, This episode, 319 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: which is episode thirty four of Col's Weekend Review, is 320 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: coming out just before the Christmas week, which is too 321 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: late for all the current call to actions we need 322 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: from all of you as Christmas gifts. Before this even 323 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: comes out, I'm gonna hit those really hard on other formats, 324 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: so pay attention, as this won't be an irregular thing 325 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: down the road. What you need to do when you 326 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: do here this is go out and enjoy our public 327 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: lands and wildlife. Breathe that clean air, and be thankful 328 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: we haven't. Additionally, I have a great surprise for all 329 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: of you in high school and college classes that deal 330 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: with history, ecology, civics. I have many teachers, professors and 331 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: professors that have written in saying that they are giving 332 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: various forms of extra credit to those of you listening 333 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: to Col's We can review on your own time. I'm 334 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: not gonna name these people individually, suffice it to say 335 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: they're all over the country. It's you may want to 336 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: bring this up. Don't take this stuff for granted. Fact 337 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: check me and let me know what I messed up, 338 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: what's going on in your neck of the woods, what 339 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: I got right, what I got wrong? Just interesting stuff. 340 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 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