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Speaker 2: What is going on by people? Happy Fugazi Friday. I

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Speaker 2: Let's do a little intro to the pod, a little

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Speaker 2: reaction to the story. We also have a Fugazi today

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Speaker 2: John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the Instagram firing those

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Speaker 2: you guys know the Drill three and Out podcast. If

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Speaker 2: I think big picture eye, I think it's fair to

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Speaker 2: say they were pretty desperate, because I've been saying for

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Speaker 2: telling me they're gonna sign Kyler Murray, Kevin O'Connell. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna lose their GM. He's not stake his career, but

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Speaker 2: to back seasons. Go from JJ McCarthy and then go

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Speaker 2: And this is a team because of some of their

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Speaker 2: But I guess they just didn't have any other options.

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy is a lot to be on the team.

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Speaker 2: You know, the GM's been fired, they're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: You know he made that bold proclamation a couple of

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Speaker 2: It is borderline impossible to be a quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: like he's more like most guys get drafted, can't play.

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Speaker 2: That's not really what it felt like with Sam Donald, right,

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell proved the day that like, just this ain't

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Speaker 2: let's start with uh, let's start with Jake John I'm

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Speaker 2: let's say fifty million dollars a year changes your life

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Speaker 2: if you're in a big, big market or a big

427
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Speaker 2: time team, you parlay that into so much off the field,

428
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: like you know, marketable you are as the starting quarterback.

429
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: Like when I heard brock Perty didn't make anything in

430
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: the first three years, like that actually wasn't true. After

431
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: a while, he was making a ton off the field.

432
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 2: You know why, because he's the starting quarterback for the

433
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Speaker 2: forty nine ers. So Toyota and these brands paying him

434
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Speaker 2: Ariot the boot brand, do you think they would have

435
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Speaker 2: paid him if he was a starting quarterback for the

436
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Speaker 2: years on the Cardinals or the you know, some of

437
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: these other brands, the New York Jets. No fucking chance

438
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 2: on God's Green Earth. So I never understand that, but

439
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: it kind of is what it is. You don't get

440
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: any credit for that as a team, You just don't.

441
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: Brady's an outlier. I mean, in fairness, Peyton Manning. There

442
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: were always stories when I was in the league that

443
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: Pollion and Tom comm Didn't used to scream at him,

444
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: like Pollion be like Tom, if we pay him this,

445
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: we can't sign other guys. And Tom's response is we

446
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: don't give a shit. We want every penny. Now. Peyton

447
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: Manning's good enough to overcome losing some guys. Most of

448
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks are not. So I feel zero sympathy for

449
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Like you signed a contract with the Cincinnati Bengals.

450
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: Who do you think you were getting in business with?

451
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: Stafford's given some discounts last year and again this year,

452
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: but he also benefits from it makes a ton off

453
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: the field with sleep number gets to play for McVeigh,

454
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: gets to win. He's already super rich, right, And I'm

455
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 2: with you what you make as a multiple time super

456
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: Bowl champion, you become marketable forever. So yeah, you don't

457
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: make as much in the playoffs, but if you win

458
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: a super Bowl or win a couple of Super Bowls.

459
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: Patrick mahomes earning power doesn't end once he retires. Is

460
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott that marketable at forty nine years old and single?

461
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 2: Not sure? Probably won't be single? Then I just saw

462
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk, So I guess my point is, I think

463
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: a lot of guys are loyal, but the business and

464
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: the numbers are so big. People get so emotional. There's

465
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Speaker 2: a lot of variables. You got agents involved that you know,

466
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: are putting ideas in your in your ear, you know.

467
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Speaker 2: I think the video that went viral of the Bill

468
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: Center saying like who took a team friendly discount? Said,

469
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Speaker 2: I'm making thirteen million dollars a year. Could I have

470
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: made sixteen? Sure? But I live pretty high on the

471
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Speaker 2: hog for thirteen million dollars a year. I think the

472
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 2: average person doesn't care that much, and it's not going

473
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Speaker 2: to feel sympathy either way. This is an argument the

474
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: media gets in a lot. I just think don't think

475
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: most people care, especially the numbers in which are being

476
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: thrown around for these players, right, Like let's say Tyler Linderbaum,

477
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: who's making twenty seven million dollars a year, making ten

478
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: million dollars more than the next high speed center. Once

479
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: the Crosby deal went through, Let's say they couldn't keep

480
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: them both, and Linderbaum said, hey, I'll give back. I

481
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: got to give back three or four million dollars a

482
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 2: year to keep to make Max on the team as

483
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: well on the Raiders. Oh, it's a good gesture. But

484
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: like gave back a couple million dollars after taxes, Like,

485
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: what are we really talking again? That's it's not my money,

486
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: and I always respect it's It's why I'm always understanding

487
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: of the tax conversation with these large amounts of money.

488
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: But I also think, like the difference of a two

489
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty million dollar contract and a two hundred

490
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: million dollar contract, when the dust settles, it doesn't change

491
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 2: your life. Literally, one iota has zero impact. And if

492
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: you're on certain teams the amount of money, like Dak

493
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: Prescott makes so much more money off the field without

494
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl than Sam Darnold does on Seattle with

495
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: the super Bowl because of the Brandy's on But I

496
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: don't think players care, clearly, so I think the loyalty.

497
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: I think the loyalty has changed. But nothing is bigger

498
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: pet peeve of mine than it's like, this is a business. Yeah, no, shit,

499
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: we didn't think this was a charity, you know, like

500
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Speaker 2: when players say that, like, yeah, we know. We didn't

501
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: think this was high school football. Guys. I just saw

502
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk was released and the Niners have to pay

503
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars in dead cap. Can you explain the

504
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: hell the Niners have to pay a player that quit

505
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: on the team because Kyle and John told him to

506
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: not come back to practice. I thought Ayuk was clear

507
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: to play but refused, which voided the contract. Sorry for rambling.

508
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't know all the details of the contract, but

509
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: when you sign a com tract and give a signing bonus,

510
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: which Brandon i Uk contract, God, my I need a

511
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: new phone. So Brandon Ayuk's contract, he got a four year,

512
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty million dollar deal with a twenty

513
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: three million dollar bonus. So he was paid twenty three

514
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: million dollars at the start of that contract, and then

515
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: that gets kind of amortized over the course of the deal.

516
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: Most of the big cap hits on his deal. Were

517
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: these fake years in twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine

518
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: that they were never going to pay him on that contract? Right,

519
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: they would have redone it after twenty five, twenty six,

520
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: twenty seven, like once you got a twenty eight and

521
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: twenty nine. But just because he quits doesn't mean that

522
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: you still don't see the implications of the bonus money

523
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: you gave him. So that cap number gets spread and

524
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: the guaranteed numbers throughout the life of the contract. It's

525
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: why Derek Carr is technically still under contract for the Saints.

526
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: They gave him what like three years one hundred million.

527
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: I forget his exact contract, but they gave him like

528
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: seventy million dollars guaranteed. That number. Even if you retire

529
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: like the number that you advertized, it still impacts your books. Remember,

530
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: like Des Bryant and Tony Romo were not on the Cowboys.

531
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: Tony was retired calling games, and they were still paying

532
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: for it. So it's because of that, and he definitely

533
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: like gave back some of the guaranteed money. But I

534
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: think the way it impacts your cap with the signing

535
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: still hurts you immediately. I mean look, there's no way

536
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: around it. It's one of the worst contracts in the

537
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: history league when you factor in like some of these quarterbacks,

538
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: you know, Tuah Kyler felt like the team liked him.

539
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers were ready to get rid of them,

540
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: and they wanted to get rid of them, but they

541
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: kept getting cold feet to cost and style and couldn't

542
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: pull the trigger and then sign them to this contract

543
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: that they immediately regretted and then obviously got injured and

544
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: then you just quit on the team and kind of

545
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: lost his marbles. So it just this disaster all the

546
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: way around, no way around it, complete disaster. I don't

547
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: quite understand all the mechanisms of like the specific numbers.

548
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: I just know when you give a guy a signing

549
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: bonus of ten million or fifty million of whatever at

550
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: the life of the contract, that hit your books way

551
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: later because you always push it down. But you gotta

552
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: pay for it, right. It'd be the equivalent of like, hey,

553
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: you can go buy something we're twenty grand and put

554
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: it on a credit card and you only have to

555
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: pay five dollars for the next couple of years, but

556
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: in two years you're gonna owe that entire amount of money,

557
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: so it's either on you to push it back down

558
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: or pay it. And that's where I think these contracts

559
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: sometimes when you get in a position where a guy

560
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: gets injured, a situation like Ayuk where you want to

561
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: get out and cut. It's why the Eagle there are

562
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 2: major cap ramifications for them to trade aj Brown. They

563
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: just gave him a contract. So when you just give

564
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: a guy a contract and you try to get out

565
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: the thing with Max Crosby, they didn'tive him any bonus money,

566
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: they didn't give him a signing bonus. They just gave

567
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: him ninety million dollars and it was, you know, guaranteed,

568
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: but it was like an NBA or a Major League

569
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Baseball contract. A lot of these guys like, yeah, I'll

570
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: sign a contract, but I want I want a direct

571
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: deposit now, Homie at like twenty seven million dollars, which

572
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: has to be incredible. I just got my thirty million

573
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: direct deposits. And that's where the tax States like hits

574
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: a lot harder when you're in Dallas. I mean, you

575
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: talk about dak to ching to ching to Cheing, big

576
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: fan of the show. A couple of things, is it

577
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: me or is the Daniel Jones contract insane, historically below

578
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: average and coming off injuries. Second, why don't teams the

579
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: number one pick just take the best quarterback and then

580
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: trade them to the highest bidder after the draft rather

581
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: than draft eight trades?

582
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: Uh?

583
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: Well, the second part because you if you're gonna trade

584
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: the number one pick for you know, a quarterback and

585
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: get several picks, like a first, a second, next year's one,

586
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: you want to use those picks for yourself, like you

587
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: want to make the pick. Right. So if I'm trading

588
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: pick one, Let's say the Raiders want to trade for

589
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: Dana Mendozo and they traded to a team for like

590
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: the third pick, the thirty third pick and next year's

591
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: one and next year three. Well, I want to pick

592
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: the guy at three, and I want to pick the

593
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: guy at thirty three. So that's the reason that doesn't happen.

594
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: The Daniel Jones, I'm at a loss now, but I

595
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 2: also get it. But it's just like he just he

596
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: just fleeces people, man, he really does. He finds himself

597
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: in positions and he takes advantage of it. Is it

598
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: possible Crosby may have dodged a bullet? I feel like

599
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: when anyone in the media, here's the Ravens. They immediately

600
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: foam at the mouth and think twenty thirteen or prime Lamar.

601
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: In reality, the Ravens have picked fourteen for a reason,

602
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 2: and it feels like they're in a major rebuild. They

603
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: have a young, unproven combo at head coach, offensive coordinator,

604
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: lost their center, tight end, defensive players, Metabuki had a

605
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: neck injury. Lamar looked like he lost his step last

606
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: season in his contract situation is uncertain with only two

607
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: years left. Henry's thirty two years old. It feels like

608
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: a team with a lot of question marks. I do

609
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: think that's fair. You know, likely had huge catches for Lamar,

610
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: huge catches starting center. Whether we agree or disagree with

611
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: the contract, there is no disputing like a full time

612
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: starter on one of the best offenses, been a Pro

613
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: Bowl level guy. Like that's a pretty big loss. And

614
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: I think DaCosta said we've had a pretty good track

615
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: record find at centers, Like, I hear you, buddy, But

616
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: I think if you just ask yourself this, would you

617
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: rather be on the Ravens or the Raiders. That's where

618
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: I think the Lamar thing, or I mean the Max thing,

619
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: Like I think any player would rather be on the

620
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 2: Ravens next year. Now, big picture, like, maybe this isn't

621
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: the Ravens that we used to know. I mean, they

622
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: went eight to nine, they easily with a missfield could

623
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: have been nine to eight, and who knows, maybe they

624
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: win a playoff game. But I'm with you, there are

625
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 2: some question marks. Lamar's health, their best defensive lineman neck injury,

626
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: Hendrickson's coming off an injury, fourteenth pick, like, not every

627
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: rookie can just hit the ground running, So the Ravens

628
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 2: do have a lot of legitimate question marks. That division's

629
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: wide open. I mean the Bengals defensively, who knows, Steelers

630
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback? Browns with the Browns love the

631
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Speaker 2: Pod just had jaw surgery, so had lots of ups

632
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: and downs. Perfect way for me to start my day

633
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: when you drop an episode. Congrats on Jack. My wife

634
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: and I just started to go down the road of

635
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 2: starting a family. Congratulations, buckle up. Question or I guess

636
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 2: rumor I've heard being circulated around friends I have who

637
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 2: I work around friends I have who work in the league.

638
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: Rumor is that Ayuk didn't just not take his rehab

639
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: for his ACL mcl m moniscus tear seriously, but he

640
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: didn't really rehab at all. That's a rumor going around

641
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 2: the internet which you might have seen as well, which

642
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: would cause the need and never be the same and

643
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: he potentially never play again. I know you have deep

644
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: ties in the Niners. You know what's funny is like

645
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: I have deep ties because I've been watching them my

646
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: whole life. But I is not like Kyle calls me.

647
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: I text John, he ain't texting me back. I like Parrague,

648
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: but I am much more tied in. I follow their

649
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 2: team closely, but I my inside information with the top boys.

650
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: They ain't feeding it to me. Hell, they get mad

651
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: at me and have people call me about things I say,

652
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: so shit. It's like, I'm your supporter, guys, but I

653
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: have no inside information on this beside what has been reported.

654
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: Clearly just a sad disaster. Now, I said, the whole time,

655
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: giving a guy seventy five million dollars, it was catching

656
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: seventy five balls in an offense that's a run first

657
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: throw to the tight end. I never made sense. I

658
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: never understood it. I never understood letting Brandon Ayuk bend

659
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers over. I didn't get it. I

660
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: still don't get it. And his agent is the same

661
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: as John Lynch's agent. I just I'll never understand that one.

662
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: I get the debo one. It didn't work out, but

663
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: I totally understand. I've gotten all the deals Trent Williams, Bosa,

664
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: Fred Warner, extending Kittle, even party. I never understood the

665
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: Ayuk one. I'm on record saying like this is crazy.

666
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna pay them? Like Amen, Ross Saint Brown, what

667
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: the fuck are we doing? And the answer was from

668
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: Kyle wish we could have that one back. The biggest

669
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 2: mistake they made is not trading him before the draft.

670
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: They should have traded him before the draft. Instead, they

671
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: let it go to training camp, and then when they

672
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: would get trades, he wouldn't sign. If they traded him

673
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: before the draft, he would have gone. It would have

674
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: been fine. You could have got like a second and

675
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: a third and just pivoted. But they just they were

676
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: in the super Bowl mode and then they ended up

677
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: going six to eleven. He got injured in just a nightmare.

678
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: I trust John Schnyder to make the right choices on

679
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 2: drafting and free agents, but I'm a bit worried after

680
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: letting a good amount of key players leave. I knew

681
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: that this would happen, but I thought we would at

682
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: least keep Kobe Bryant after how well he has done

683
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: the last few years. I know we need a running

684
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: back into safety. Now that both Kenneth Walker and Kobe

685
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: Bryant are gone, do you think they are just waiting

686
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: for the draft to fill these holes. Kobe Bryant's a

687
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: good player, but he got a lot of money. And

688
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: if you're Seattle, you go. We got guys that we

689
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 2: have to invest in. And to give a guy thirteen

690
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: fourteen million dollars a year, it's a lot. And the

691
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker thing in November, no one would have thought

692
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker was going to get a big contract. He

693
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: had one of the hottest stretches at the end of

694
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: the year. There was no way the Seattle was going

695
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: to match that contract. I'm still a little surprised the

696
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: Chiefs gave him as much as they did, but they've

697
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: clearly liked him since college, and I do wonder if

698
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: they're going to go to a run heavy offense. But

699
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: to me, if you had told me that they had

700
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: let a star defensive lineman, a star wide receiver, something

701
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: like that offensive lineman. They let a running back in

702
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 2: a safety, Go, well, this draft's loaded with safeties and

703
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: you can find running backs. I don't think it's that crazy.

704
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: I really don't. I have a question regarding team success

705
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: in the NFL. For my investment theory class, I have

706
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 2: to build a ten plus factor model to accurately predict

707
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 2: how much success a team has based on preseason odds.

708
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: My question is what non obvious factors leads teams to

709
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: continue to win games year after year. It's a good question.

710
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: I would say the obvious ones, clearly if you have

711
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: a bad year would be injuries, would be close game

712
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: or turnover swings. Right. A couple of years ago, the

713
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: Chiefs were excellent close games. Last year they were not.

714
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: Turnover swings are big one strength of schedule. The forty

715
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: nine ers benefited, the Patriots benefited this year from that.

716
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: I would say non obvious ones would be guys having

717
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: poor seasons. Right, Like, if you think a team is

718
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: gonna win ten to eleven games and are one of

719
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: the favorites to win their division or their conference, and

720
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: then they have a couple players who have down years.

721
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: And the other thing is usually good teams have higher

722
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: paid players. If you have higher paid veterans who start

723
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: turning the wrong way, that can be a problem. Right

724
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: if you look at the ravens Lamar had a bad

725
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: year because he was banged up, missing games like it

726
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 2: was just it was just off and defensively they weren't

727
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: that good. You can never factor in like Joe Burrow

728
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 2: missed half the season, right or missed. I forget exactly

729
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: how many games Pretty did too. Pretty misses seven eight games.

730
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: If you would have told me at the beginning of

731
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: the year, Pretty missed seven eight games. With forty nine

732
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: ers can win like seven games. But I couldn't have

733
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: factored in Mac Jones, the backup quarterback. And the other

734
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: thing is you can it's hard to know, Like when

735
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: you get new coordinators or first time coaches. You never know,

736
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: like we all like Liam Cohen with Baker Mayfield, I

737
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: never thought the Jags would look as good as they

738
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: looked in his Italian defensive coordinator. They were just kicking

739
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: ass and taking names. So you just you don't know.

740
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: You don't know how a guy's gonna transition. So I

741
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: don't know if that answers your question. You know there

742
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: are things in a locker room, maybe because every year

743
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: you have a percentage of turnover. Some teams it's low

744
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 2: twenty some teams is like thirty forty percent. I would

745
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: imagine the Raiders this year turnover is gonna be extremely high.

746
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: The Raven's turnover is gonna be really high. Chiefs turnover

747
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: on defense gonna be high. You just have natural turnover

748
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Well, if you insert new players, whether

749
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: it be rookies, whether it be second year guys who

750
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: were drafted the previous year as backups, or whether you

751
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: sign guys from other teams, there's a chemistry aspect that

752
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: you never know how it's gonna work, which to me

753
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: is usually on the coaching staff to figure that out

754
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: and create that and then build from that. But at

755
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: the end of the day, the players have to get

756
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: along and have to like each other, and have to

757
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: have some natural on the field chemistry which naturally works

758
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: its way to off the field chemistry. I'm a believer

759
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: in you don't have to be best friends with everybody,

760
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 2: but typically when you like people, you work better with them.

761
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: I would say, I mean, we all have done business

762
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: with people we hate. It's much more enjoyable to do

763
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: business with people you like. So I don't know if

764
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: that answers your question. I don't think there's a right

765
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: or wrong answer. I mean teams study this every year,

766
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: Like did the Chiefs? Why did the Chiefs take a

767
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: huge step back last year? Will Mahomes didn't have a

768
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: great year. Kelsey had a big time down year. Their

769
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: offensive line issues. Right Simmons miss some games, The right

770
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: tackle was an issue. Receivers were hit or miss defense.

771
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: Carl Loftis wasn't as good. He had just been paid.

772
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: It's not like their coaches got dumb overnight. Right, It's

773
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: not like Mahomes forgot how to play. It's just like

774
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 2: shit happens. It's hard. I think it's very, very difficult.

775
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: That's so it's hard to quantify on a yearly basis.

776
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: As an Eagles fan, the loss of Stoutland the offensive

777
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: line coach concerns me. Can you go into how important

778
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: an elite position group coaches not only for the preparation

779
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: and game day, but with the draft coming up talent evaluation?

780
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: Do these guys have more input than scouts, coordinators, head

781
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: coaches regarding their position group side question. As a new

782
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: dad and golfer myself, thoughts on bringing the baby kid

783
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: to the golf course and push on the golf course

784
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: in a push cart stroller good in theory, but as

785
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: someone who is conscious of others and hates noise in

786
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: the backswing, not sure I can get on board. To me,

787
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: they have to be at a certain age where you

788
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: can just kind of put them in the cart. I

789
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 2: think the stroller, I don't know if I would do that.

790
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: Maybe to the range, but you'd have to, like you said,

791
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: you have to have an area in the range. What

792
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: do you do when it starts crying, You gotta grab it.

793
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 2: I'm not a big bring the baby to the golf

794
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: course until they hit somewhat of a certain age till

795
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: maybe they can start playing. Great question, though, from what

796
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: I've heard, like it was time. Stoutland is at an

797
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: incredible career. He's been one of the best offensive line

798
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: coaches in the league. He will be an offensive line coach,

799
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure if he wants to keep coaching again. But

800
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: there gets to a point for certain coaches, position coaches,

801
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: like he kind of got to get along with the

802
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: other coaches. You're not the boss. Right, you are, I

803
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: don't want to say a worker bee, but in the hierarchy,

804
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: like you ate the head hauncho. So like this year,

805
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: I think there was some button heads and it's like,

806
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: you're paid three point five million dollars and the offensive

807
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: line was playing like shit. So I I'm not sure

808
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: people in Philly were, like I think everyone was. It

809
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: was time, incredible run ton of credit for what they've

810
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: accomplished for Kelsey and Malatta and Lane Johnson, all these guys.

811
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: But I from what I had heard, it was time.

812
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: And some of that is like, you start making three

813
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: point five million dollars the offensive line coach, you don't

814
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: listen to anybody, and it's like you're a position coach.

815
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: You ask your players to listen to other people. So,

816
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: and I'm Stoutlin's not alone on this. A lot of

817
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: coaches get like this. We've talked about this before. Eagles

818
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: get so big with some of these position coaches because

819
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: they make so much money. When you make seventy five

820
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, you kind of got to listen to the boss.

821
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: You start making millions of dollars, it's like, oh, are

822
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: you the CEO? No, are you the number two. No,

823
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: I'm like the three or four. But I make so

824
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: much and I'm gonna guarantee contract I can do whatever

825
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: I want. I think it became a problem, so time

826
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: will tell the new offensive line coach and the new

827
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: staff like that. That to me is a question mark.

828
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: But I don't have an issue with the divorce from

829
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: what I know with stout one. Sometimes it's just time

830
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: if you don't get along, And this happens all sorts

831
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: of coaching staffs. Some of these position coaches start pushing back.

832
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: Happens with coordinators, with head coaches. It's not you can't

833
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: function like you gotta get a divorce. You have to separate.

834
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 2: So I think that played a role. You're a new dad,

835
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: so I thought you're a good one to ask my

836
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: fiance's brother and wife. So your future brother in law

837
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: had a child this year. Was her first niece or nephew,

838
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: so she was understandably very excited. I am the youngest

839
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 2: of a big family, so already had a few lost

840
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: its luster a bit, what's fun to begin with. But

841
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: her niece totally dominates her family's life and partially mine.

842
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: Most of our conversations are about her FaceTime at least

843
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: once a day. And when we see here, we're the

844
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: ones tasked with diapers, feedings, bass et cetera. It feels

845
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: like I'm raising a child that's not ours. Am I

846
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: an ass for thinking this? Absolutely not. It can be

847
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: really annoying when parents, young parents, all they talk with

848
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: their friends about is their kid, Like that's just the

849
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: only level of conversation. It's like, we're adults. Can we

850
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: have some other conversations too, Like can we just be

851
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 2: adults as well? Like there has to be some sort

852
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: of balance. But it's also understandable when you have a child,

853
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: especially for her. I mean, my wife's like living with Jack.

854
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: I mean they spend every waking moment. She took her

855
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: to the real estate office today to like everyone wanted

856
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: to meet her, so she just they went at like lunchtime,

857
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: and every time she would hand Jack off to someone else,

858
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 2: he would freak like he is so connected to her

859
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: now eight weeks into life, right, So their connection is

860
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: the connection between the woman and the child and the

861
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: father and the child early on is just way different.

862
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: If someone if I had a friend or brother or

863
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: sister came over to my house and I tasked them

864
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: with changing the diapers and feeding. If you told me

865
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: my brother or brother in law shoved me, screamed at me,

866
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: or refuse to ever come over again, I would not

867
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: blame them. That is fucking ridiculous. Now it's one thing

868
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: like hey, could you help me grab that bottle or whatever,

869
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: totally understandable. But if you come over and you just

870
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: act as a babysitter, it's like, I ain't your mom,

871
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: We ain't you ain't paying us. That's ridiculous to me,

872
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: especially you. It's if your wife or fiance wants to

873
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 2: do it and doesn't mind. But if they say, hey,

874
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: could you go change the diaper? Like that's a no,

875
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: That's a no for me, Doug, Like that's that seems outrageous.

876
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 2: And they are. They are pushing the envelope on this one.

877
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I think that this is a

878
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: a boundary cross for sure. Now here's the thing. If

879
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: you don't establish some boundaries or ground rules, people will

880
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: take advantage of you. Whether it be when it comes

881
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: to babysitting and that type stuff, whether it comes to work,

882
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: I don't care what it is. And these it's it's

883
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: it's a lot easier in professional settings when you're kind

884
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: of less emotionally tied, you could be a little more aggressive, right,

885
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: it's a little more cutthroat in the private sector. With family,

886
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: it can be delicate because what are you gonna stand

887
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: up and say, I'm never changing your baby's diaper ever again,

888
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: don't ever ask me to do that like that. That

889
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: might not go well. So you got to be kind

890
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: of tactful with how you approach this. But there's gotta

891
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: be some sort of like maybe you gotta tell your wife,

892
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: maybe you know your fiance, like we got to get

893
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: this back, like this is kind of gotten egregious. Maybe

894
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: you work through the parents, but then you got to

895
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 2: balance it where you don't feel like you're gossiping about them.

896
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, you're in a tough situation. I do

897
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: know this, though, you got to plug the hole before

898
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: that before that leak gets way worse. So you got

899
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: to be very careful. This thing could take on a

900
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: life of its own. I don't have a great answer

901
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: for you, though no one's ever asked me, and I'm

902
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: the last guy in my life to have a baby.

903
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: I guess I got one more buddy who probably have

904
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: a baby here soon. But brothers, cousins, friends. Like most

905
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: everyone I know has a little kid. I've never ever

906
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 2: gone to someone's house with a baby and changed someone

907
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: else's diaper. The first diaper I've ever changed was my

908
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: own son's, and I do think for the most part,

909
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: for a guy, that should be the case unless something

910
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: situation like you know, a tragedy happens or something you

911
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: take over someone else's child totally. But I in a

912
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: situation like that, that that that to me feels egregious.

913
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: That does I just moved my whole family out to

914
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: California from Kansas and started law school at Stanford. Jesus,

915
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: we got a smart listener. Your pod has been great

916
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 2: to football, and I love to hear your Chiefs take

917
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: since you know Beach and Andy. My question, I keep

918
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: seeing pundit's discounting the Chiefs as if they were not

919
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl over and over. I trust the

920
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 2: team to get back, but something has seemed off with

921
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: their offense the last few years. What do you think

922
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: needs to change? Well, Mahomes wasn't good last year. Running

923
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: the ball has been a problem. So easiest way to

924
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: get Mahomes back on track take a little pressure off

925
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: them run the football. Get Kenneth Walker, be very fascinated.

926
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: Improve the offensive line. You draft Simmons last year, you

927
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: already got a couple good interior offensive linemen. You draft

928
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: to right tackle at nine, and boom, you got a

929
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: good offensive line. That's simple. So and what do you

930
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: do with a good up run the ball? You still

931
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: got Kelsey or she Rice if he doesn't get suspended

932
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: for life, and you know Worthy is an interesting player.

933
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: You could draft a weapon in the second round, whether

934
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 2: that's a tight end, whether that's a wide receiver. I

935
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: think you use it on a skill guy in the

936
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: second round. But you just lost a ton of dudes

937
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: on defense as well, so she's have some holes. There's

938
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: no way around that. I would feel pretty confident that

939
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 2: it at least maybe twenty six won't be a Super

940
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: Bowl year, but like you should be a playoff team

941
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: if I'm home Sealthie. With Shane Lowry's meltdown, you mentioned

942
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: the viewers love to see golfer struggle and choke, and

943
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: I agree. I always love watching the US Open when

944
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: guys are making bogies and scoring around even part. But

945
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: why is this in other sports? We don't root for

946
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: guys to choke or suck unless they're playing against your team.

947
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: We'd never say we enjoy watching Mahomes throw picks or

948
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: see KD misshots. I think this is pretty simple because

949
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: when you watch football or you watch baseball, you watch basketball,

950
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: you want to see greatness. Right, It's cool to watch

951
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: a guy just drain Steph Curry draining threes, or guy

952
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: hit home runs or sweet plays on a football field.

953
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: Most of us after high school are not playing any

954
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,479
Speaker 2: of those sports, so it's like you kind of dream

955
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: like what would be like to play to be sweet.

956
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: A lot of people that watch golf play golf and

957
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: suck at golf. So the most relatable thing when you're

958
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: watching the best players or the random guy on the

959
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: PGA tour do is to hit a crappy shot, pump

960
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: one ob hit one in the water. You know why,

961
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: because whether you're a five handicap or whether you're a

962
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: twenty handicap, if I say, hey, this hole's for one

963
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: hundred bucks, we have all or this holes for five bucks.

964
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: Hit one behind a tree, hit one in a bush,

965
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: hit one in the water, it actually is like, damn,

966
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 2: can't believe he did that, because you know you can

967
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: do that. When I see Aaron Judge or Bryce Harper

968
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: hit one four hundred and fifty feet, none of us

969
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: are doing that. When I see Saquon bust a seventy

970
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: yard run, you know, twenty five miles an hour, like

971
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: I've never seen that before, and that's no one's doing that, right,

972
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: Or when you watch Lebron or Kevin Durant or whoever,

973
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: it's like, never seen anyone that could do that. We're

974
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: in golf. I've seen guys that get in the water.

975
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: I'd literally hit in the water. I just think it's

976
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: a relatable. Golf's the one sport that people can play

977
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: in their sixties seventies. We could argue whether it's activity

978
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: that you can play well in your seventies if you're

979
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: in decent health. No one's playing tackle football, like if

980
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: you don't play in high school or college past twenty one.

981
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: You know, even people that play like beer league softball,

982
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: it's a lot different than like fast pitch baseball, even

983
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 2: like a run at the gym, it's a lot different

984
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: than playing organized high school or college basketball. So playing

985
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: golf's playing golf. Like Shane Lowry melting down at what

986
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: was that the cognizant a couple of weeks ago. Is

987
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: he would hit the same shot you would if you're

988
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 2: standing there one hundred and eighty yard part three. We've

989
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: all played one hundred and eighty yard part three. So

990
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: the one thing I say about golf that's different than

991
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: my relationship with football is like, I'm never gonna play

992
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 2: a football game on Lambeufield, right, I'm never going to

993
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: play a pickup game at MSG. But I've played Olympic Club,

994
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: I've played TBC Scottsdale like I've played or I've walked

995
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: you know, Pebble Beach and iron A Mick and you

996
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: know some of these courses. I've played LACC where the

997
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: head of US Open. I can do the things the

998
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: pros do. And that's what makes I think golf just

999
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: this unique connection to people that play it, that also

1000
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: watch the pros play. Then I never played in the NFL.

1001
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's like to you know, have

1002
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: a broken you know, toe and try to block Miles Garrett.

1003
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: But I like watching it. I enjoy it. I respect

1004
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: the shit out of it. Question with the McDuffie trade,

1005
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: do you still think Chris Jones is traded? I know

1006
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: you were saying that at the start of the offseason,

1007
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: but now I don't anymore. I mean, at this point

1008
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: in time, I would guess he's just on the team,

1009
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: and I guess I underestimated their emotional connection. I obviously

1010
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: with Mahomes like he's their quarterback, but Chris Jones, Travis Kelcey,

1011
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: I think they are much more connected and vested with

1012
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: those guys than the average team is with an aging veteran,

1013
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: so that they there's a connection that Andy has with

1014
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: those guys. That is something that I underestimated because I

1015
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: would have bet he was traded, And not only is

1016
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: he not traded, he's probably gonna be He's clearly gonna

1017
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: be on the team next year, and they'd probably say

1018
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: we need him on the team, which kind of understand

1019
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: for the mail back, specifically Fugazi Friday. On a scale

1020
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: of one to ten, how Fugazi was bam out of

1021
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: bios eight three point game against the Wizards, Well, he

1022
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: shot forty three free throw attempts. What do you make

1023
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: thirty eight of them? I googled it today. It's the

1024
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 2: most free throw attempts ever in a game. He shot

1025
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty percent from the field, and he

1026
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: shot under thirty percent from three, so blow league averages

1027
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 2: on both. I don't I didn't do a deep dive

1028
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: into Kobe's game against the Raptors, who I could be wrong.

1029
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: I don't think we're good that year, and they were

1030
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: up twenty and he stayed in the game. I never

1031
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: have a problem with the guy staying in a game

1032
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: when he has a lot of points. I was was

1033
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: I there? No, I don't think I was watching home.

1034
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: I won so many Warriors games, saw so many moments.

1035
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: I think I was watching in Memoryville. When Clay had

1036
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: the thirty seven quarter, I thought Steve Kurs should let

1037
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: him play the whole game and get like seventy points.

1038
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: But he didn't because they were up a ton. They

1039
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: were back then, they were blowing everybody out and maybe

1040
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: the game wasn't Sacramento. I don't even remember, but the

1041
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: thirty seven point quarters, Clay's had more important moments like

1042
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: this game six against OKC. But that is the craziest

1043
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen, probably any player do. I mean,

1044
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: it was absurd. He couldn't miss, and I'm all for

1045
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: just like, let it, just let it play out whatever,

1046
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: But when you are not making that many shots and

1047
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: getting fouled at the rate. Then I googled last night

1048
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: because I was on the group text for three and out,

1049
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, how many points this guy average? Twenty? So

1050
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: I googled it. He averages eighteen point like five. So

1051
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: it's not like Bam is Kobe or Wilt like a

1052
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,959
Speaker 2: guy that you know is a thirty thirty five point

1053
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: a game scorer. It's not that it's not his game. Really,

1054
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: So when I saw the ticker com, I went, this

1055
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: is this fake? I honestly had the same reaction when

1056
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: I saw Bam scored eighty three. Then when I saw

1057
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: the the Ravens did takebacks, I didn't believe it. I

1058
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: thought it was fake. And then once you see the numbers,

1059
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: you're like, what what now? I also don't want to

1060
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: sound like a hater. You score eighty three, you score

1061
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: eighty three. I just think we've seen some scoring games,

1062
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: you know, the sixty pointers over the years. Obviously Kobe's one.

1063
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: I just felt like I don't know something. Kobe, Wilt,

1064
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: and Bam Autebio are on the same list. How many

1065
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: did Kobe score his last game? Oh, he scored fifty

1066
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: so Kobe's last game, which is one of the cooler

1067
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: games I've ever watched. And I'm a Laker hater. I

1068
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: mainly I hated Kobe, and then I liked him a

1069
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: lot once he retired. But in that game, Kobe had

1070
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: fifty point, No, he had sixty points. He went in

1071
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: twenty two of fifty and six of twenty one from

1072
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: three point, but he he only took twelve free throws.

1073
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: Like to shoot forty three free throws, That to me

1074
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: is I haven't watched any of the game, honestly, I

1075
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: haven't even watched the highlights. But when you tell me

1076
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: he shot forty three free throws, that to me is

1077
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: a pretty big that's a pretty big fugazi. And I

1078
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: get it. You're playing a team that doesn't want to win.

1079
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go to this box scorer. So he

1080
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: was twenty of forty three, So that's that's whatever. You're

1081
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: gunning seven to twenty two from three, which isn't great,

1082
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: but you shoot seven three, you make seven threes, you

1083
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 2: score twenty points. The thirty six to forty three free

1084
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: throws like that is fucking absurd. There was no one

1085
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: in this game, like, none of the Wizards had more

1086
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 2: than eight. What would you say is a lot of

1087
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 2: free throws in the game for a player to take,

1088
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 2: like fourteen, eighteen, forty three. How's that even possible? How

1089
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: many guys fouled out on the Wizards. Doesn't look like

1090
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: anyone did forty three free throw attempts. To me, that's

1091
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: the fugazi like, you just you just can't have that

1092
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: many free throw attempts in us to take the game

1093
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: is like, okay, that's like an all time great game. Okay,

1094
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: we'll end on this. Bears fan here, I feel as

1095
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: the Packers are a tooling their teams this season. Wouldn't

1096
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: this open up an opportunity for the Bears to be

1097
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 2: all in? Specifically with Caleb's rookie deal, I feel like

1098
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: there's pressure for Chicago to take the next two years,

1099
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: you really take the next step into being a super

1100
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 2: Bowl team. I totally agree. I said this the other day.

1101
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 2: If Caleb gets a little bit better and they make

1102
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: an aggressive move or have a good draft, like, I

1103
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 2: don't see why they couldn't be the number one seed

1104
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: in the NFC or compete to be the number one

1105
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 2: seed in the NFC. I mean, this year they were

1106
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: technically the two seed, but I think we all agree

1107
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: it was a little smoke and mirrors is a two seed, right,

1108
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: They just have these magical moments. The defense was bad.

1109
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: I do think next year like they could be really

1110
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: good if they make a move or two to go

1111
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: into next year. Whether that's trade a draft pick for

1112
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: a player, still acquire a guy, I don't know, but

1113
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: they are. They got multiple picks at the end of

1114
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: the second round. Maybe they can move up in the

1115
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: first round package one of those picks to get hired

1116
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: to pick a better player. But I think this year

1117
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: they have a big time opportunity. Right. Seattle's still gonna

1118
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: be good, The Rams are gonna be favored. The forty

1119
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: nine ers have a bunch of injuries still, the Eagles

1120
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: got a lot going on. The South stinks, the Packers

1121
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: and the Lions, all these teams have a lot of

1122
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: question marks. The Vikings don't have a quarterback, so I

1123
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 2: think it's wide open for the I'm with you, I

1124
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: think there's a great opportunity. If you tell me, Caleb

1125
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: is way more accurate this year, they easily could be

1126
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: like a thirteen to fourteen, like legitimate, like this team

1127
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: can win the Super I think we all agree, like

1128
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: they weren't gonna win the Super Bowl last year with

1129
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: their defense, but if their defense is just solid and

1130
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: he gets like, doesn't just need the magical moments, but

1131
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 2: he can just be consistently good for quarters right and

1132
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: not just have like awful moments where he's like skipping

1133
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: balls or airmailing balls. They could be dumb with their coach.

1134
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: I'm pretty high on the Bears coming in next year.

1135
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: But also like, that's what's fascinating about pro sports is

1136
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,959
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna be high on them. Everyone's gonna be blowing them,

1137
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna annoint them, Like how do they respond? And

1138
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to watch And I'm that was as fun

1139
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: as I had watching football. Watching their team play last year.

1140
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: It was from an entertainment standpoint, and I got no

1141
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: dog in the fight. Just watching them play it was

1142
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: a joy. It was fun to watch Bears football. I

1143
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: love big cities that love football. Their home games were awesome,

1144
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: Their Packer games were incredible. That Rams game was just

1145
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: theater it was. It was thoroughly enjoyable. If I'm a

1146
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: Bears fan, I'm with you. I think, like, hey, hey, poles.

1147
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: If the opportunity strikes, let's put the chips in the

1148
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: middle of the table and let's go for broke. Here

1149
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: the volume m HM