WEBVTT - BA QA: Negotiating a Raise While Pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the b A keep a heard what

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<v Speaker 1>you say to you A man?

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<v Speaker 2>Dad, b agg q A let me ag q a A.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, beautiful girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I realized we were both like singing but like looking

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<v Speaker 3>down like well, I wasn't singing so much. I was

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<v Speaker 3>supporting it, supported bop. I love the support of black

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<v Speaker 3>Girl blop.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we got a nice chalky email from anonymous,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Call her mm hmmm pregnant and needing a raise, pregnant Penny.

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<v Speaker 1>Pregnant Penny.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, pregnant Panny says Hi, Mandy and Tiffany, this is

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<v Speaker 2>pregnant eating a raise aka pregnant Penny. We're calling you

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<v Speaker 2>that girl.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would like to say I love your podcast and habit

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<v Speaker 2>of the voter listeners is discovering the podcast last year.

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<v Speaker 2>We love that she's writing for the first time for

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<v Speaker 2>some career advice. She's been with the same company for

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<v Speaker 2>many years and held just a bunch of different positions

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<v Speaker 2>on different project products projects.

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<v Speaker 1>So earlier this year she transitioned.

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<v Speaker 2>To a new role, and although her previous role was comfortable,

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<v Speaker 2>she sought this new position out because she wanted more

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<v Speaker 2>of a challenge and knew that she was capable, yes, capable,

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<v Speaker 2>Queen of contributing more than what she was in her

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<v Speaker 2>previous role, so when transitioning, she was just given her

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<v Speaker 2>normal five percent merit increase.

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<v Speaker 1>After being in that role for three.

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<v Speaker 2>Months, the project, the product, the project experienced some funding challenges,

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<v Speaker 2>especially this is last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it because this was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>With the contract and they were forced to make some

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<v Speaker 2>personnel cuts, so they let go some people. They got

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<v Speaker 2>rid of the project lead, her supervisor and put her

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<v Speaker 2>in his role, okay, and she accepted without asking for

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<v Speaker 2>more money because she felt lucky that she still had

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<v Speaker 2>a job with some of her colleagues being moved to

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<v Speaker 2>other projects or let go all together. Me and Manny

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<v Speaker 2>kind of read this prior. We both said at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, like not asking for money during that time.

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<v Speaker 2>After being in this project lead position for a month

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<v Speaker 2>or so, another project lead resigned and then she was

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<v Speaker 2>asked to be an interim project lead for that project

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and they are looking for a permanent replacement.

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<v Speaker 2>Now she's leading two projects and there's no clear timeframe

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<v Speaker 2>of when the replacement for the second project will come.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot for part one, many go do part two.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to do part two. So part one,

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<v Speaker 3>she sets us up with what's happening at work right now,

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<v Speaker 3>But here's real life, so she says, with the increased

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<v Speaker 3>responsibility and extra workload. I want to ask for a raise,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm not sure how. I'm not sure or how

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<v Speaker 3>to do so. I'm not Oh, she says, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to ask for a raise, but I'm not sure how

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<v Speaker 3>to do so. I'm pregnant with my set child do

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<v Speaker 3>in November. I have a first child is fifteen months,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm going to have two under two. With daycare

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<v Speaker 3>being so expensive two three hundred dollars per child and

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<v Speaker 3>DC living expenses so high, my current salary of one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and thirty nine thousand dollars just won't cut it,

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<v Speaker 3>even though I don't have any debt, car payment, student loans,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. So without debt, one thirty nine is not

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<v Speaker 3>cutting it. I'm nervous about asking for a raise because

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<v Speaker 3>I know that I will also have to tell them

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pregnant as well as and we'll soon be taking

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<v Speaker 3>three months of maternity leave. Please advise on how I

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<v Speaker 3>should go about this conversation when asking for a raise.

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<v Speaker 3>Should I be upfront and tell my manager that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>also pregnant and will be taking maternity leave, or try

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<v Speaker 3>to secure the rais and then drop the bomb that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pregnant afterwards. Or should I wait a little longer

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<v Speaker 3>to see if they bring on a replacement soon. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of g's and h's. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>All I know is that I need more money to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to comfortably so for my growing family. Whoo,

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<v Speaker 3>pregnant Penny, there was so much here. Okay these I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so glad that we're answering your questions soon after you

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<v Speaker 3>submitted it, because I think we can be a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of help. Yes, okay, this is such a common scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say first and foremost that often

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<v Speaker 3>the opportunities for advancement come not in the traditional sense

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<v Speaker 3>of like you're ready, here's your promotion. It's more like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh shit, they just quit, or like oh no, they

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<v Speaker 3>got let go, and now we got to like scramble

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<v Speaker 3>and move things around. And you were positioned well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for whatever reason they kept you, so you were positioned

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<v Speaker 3>well to pick up the mantle and pick up this

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<v Speaker 3>additional responsibility and show what you're capable of. I too

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<v Speaker 3>have benefited from someone else's getting left getting fired, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know you don't have to feel any ounce of

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<v Speaker 3>guilt about it. And I also completely understand why you

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<v Speaker 3>would feel because of the way that they were let go,

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<v Speaker 3>like detective and like you just want to let's not

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<v Speaker 3>make too much noise about this because it could be

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<v Speaker 3>me next. That's completely natural. That being said, there was

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity for you to ask for more at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and you haven't, but you have another opportunity any time

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<v Speaker 3>you choose to have. One. My biggest concern right now,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want you to like really understand this is

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<v Speaker 3>you do not have to tell them that you're pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, don't do it. It's none of their business.

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<v Speaker 3>It has nothing to do with why you deserve a promotion.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was a little concerned because she said, like

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm worried because I know I will also have

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<v Speaker 3>to tell them that I'm pregnant, says who pregnant? Pen

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<v Speaker 3>Because it is not required and honestly, it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>anything to do with the fact that you have a

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<v Speaker 3>bigger title, more responsibility, and do not underestimate your leverage

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<v Speaker 3>right here, because they need you, and in fact, they

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<v Speaker 3>need you so much they're the only person they could

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<v Speaker 3>think of turning to when the other project lead left.

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<v Speaker 3>But be cautious because one of the reasons they may

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<v Speaker 3>be turning to you is because, oh, turn to pregnant pen.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not calling you that turn to Penny because she

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<v Speaker 3>says yes, really, Fashi isn't ask too many questions. She

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't caused me too much agree if she's not asking

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<v Speaker 3>me to find more budget. And it's just an easy

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<v Speaker 3>person to saddle something. It's an easy person to saddle

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<v Speaker 3>with stuff. And if you become that person and they

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<v Speaker 3>don't recognize that, they need to, like you know, come

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<v Speaker 3>correct with how they're valuing your time. If you don't

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<v Speaker 3>stand up for yourself, then you will continue to be

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<v Speaker 3>so blessed with opportunities and additional workloads and so trusted

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<v Speaker 3>and given so much and they couldn't bear to lose

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<v Speaker 3>you ever, But they will not be actually matching that

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<v Speaker 3>with dollars, which is what you want at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the day. Right, like you said, you got bills

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<v Speaker 3>to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>How soon an advanced before needing maternity to leave. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you are you supposed to be asking like what's.

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<v Speaker 3>The Well often in HR like they will have like

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<v Speaker 3>it's not even something you have to tell your manager,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you can ask HR, hey, what are the policies

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<v Speaker 3>around parental leave and is there any you know, details

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<v Speaker 3>you can share with me? And they may say that

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<v Speaker 3>you have to fill out this form and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>submit it such and such. But like, let's say you

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<v Speaker 3>have no idea that you're pregnant. You're like on that

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<v Speaker 3>TLC show, I didn't know I was pregnant, and all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, like you give birth, Well, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>need to take maternity leave like parental leave at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>And whether or not you gave them enough notice or not,

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<v Speaker 3>it may not even matter. Federal Medical Family Family Medical

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<v Speaker 3>Leave Act, which is a federal law, says that your

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<v Speaker 3>job must be saved for you for twelve weeks. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean they have to pay you, but your job is

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<v Speaker 3>protected if you have a child, you know, while you're employed,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think, But at the same time, that's the law,

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<v Speaker 3>but you also want to be considerate. There's ways of

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<v Speaker 3>being considerate for your own absence that have nothing to

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<v Speaker 3>do with like telling them. You could do some pre

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<v Speaker 3>planning on your own, like, Okay, I'm gonna be on

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<v Speaker 3>Matt leave. I'm a leader now, so here's here's a

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<v Speaker 3>three month plan. Like I'm assuming it's three months. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you have less or more parental leave, but you can

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<v Speaker 3>do a lot to lay the groundwork for your absence

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<v Speaker 3>in advance. And it doesn't have to be like a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, hey, I'm going on myce you leave, you

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<v Speaker 3>better figure this stuff out. It's a good opportunity for

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<v Speaker 3>you to show leadership and start planning for your own

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<v Speaker 3>absence and start deputizing people. And this is a difficult

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<v Speaker 3>time for the company, but that doesn't mean that your

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<v Speaker 3>life has to stop. It means that you can find

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<v Speaker 3>other people to delegate to or find out what resources

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<v Speaker 3>you need so that things can get covered while you're out.

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<v Speaker 3>They've told you that they want you to lead these projects,

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<v Speaker 3>so lead them by figuring out the plan for you

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<v Speaker 3>being gone for a few months.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think on the employer side, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes, I mean, I get it why she didn't ask

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<v Speaker 2>for the because it was like, yikes, the contract was cut,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's no money. I've been there where someone has

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<v Speaker 2>deserved the raids because of the work, but there's just

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<v Speaker 2>not any money, you know, Like I've already done all

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<v Speaker 2>the cuts, you know. I remember at one point, I

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<v Speaker 2>was my salary. I cut my salary in half. I

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<v Speaker 2>was making half of what everybody else was making, intentionally

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<v Speaker 2>just to try to make, you know, ends meet. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm was like, oh my gosh, this person does deserve

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<v Speaker 2>a raids, but I just we don't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Sometimes I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know, she doesn't know they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have it, or she doesn't ask.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you fired salaried employees, which it sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>there's budget that head count, like that money, if you

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<v Speaker 3>chose to allocate it toward labor, there can.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you fire because you're actually in a deficit, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, meaning like it's not like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I fired it and I have extra hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, I was over one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and so I fired to get myself. Yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I mean, to Mandy's point, it doesn't all

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<v Speaker 2>that to say I've never been mad an employee asking

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<v Speaker 2>me for a raise they ought to, and I told them,

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<v Speaker 2>I know this is really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of you for saying it. But let me

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<v Speaker 1>show you how we don't have no money. But we

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<v Speaker 1>worked it out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, y'all worked it out by giving them like

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<v Speaker 2>a profit share because but I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 2>would have come up with the profit share plan had

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<v Speaker 2>they not asked for the raise.

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<v Speaker 1>It forced me to be creative.

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<v Speaker 2>So to Mandy's point, you know, because I saw so

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<v Speaker 2>much value my employees, I figured something out. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>asking but knowing that, like you know, not everybody's just

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<v Speaker 2>hoarding money. Sometimes it is like, yeah, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean not these big companies, they're all liars.

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<v Speaker 3>But she just needs the confidence to ask, and at

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<v Speaker 3>least even if the answer is no, the message is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be clear. And that's what I was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get out earlier when I was talking about how

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<v Speaker 3>be careful not showing up for yourself, because you will

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<v Speaker 3>become you know, every house has that junk table or

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<v Speaker 3>the junk drawer where you just kind of throw stuff

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<v Speaker 3>because oh, well it's over there, they don't complain. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what you can become. And it happens to women. So

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<v Speaker 3>often because we are expected to take on additional unpaid

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<v Speaker 3>work all the time. So people are really comfortable taking

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<v Speaker 3>advantage of us for our time, and like we are

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<v Speaker 3>also conditioned to just enjoy it to be needed. I

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<v Speaker 3>love to support be a team player. Anyhow, you're playing

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<v Speaker 3>yourself if you don't stand up and say, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>given these additional responsibilities. So when can we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>compensation and how that'll be reflected. And if it's not

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<v Speaker 3>directly able to be reflected in your compensation, then what

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<v Speaker 3>about a discretionary fund or a budget that you can

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<v Speaker 3>use to hire your own contractors, to outsource things, buy

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<v Speaker 3>tools or software that could help you do your job

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit better. You just want to stand up

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<v Speaker 3>for what you need within reason, okay, so that they

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<v Speaker 3>don't get the message that you're not going to complain

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<v Speaker 3>or be a squeaky wheel. The question about like strategically,

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<v Speaker 3>she has sort of two or three things she wants

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<v Speaker 3>to raise. She also has the news about being pregnant

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<v Speaker 3>and needing to go on maternity lead, and she also

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<v Speaker 3>has the second project that they foisted upon her. I know,

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<v Speaker 3>so if I were going an order, I would say

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<v Speaker 3>focus first on the rais and the compensation for the

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<v Speaker 3>job that you have now the second project to me

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<v Speaker 3>that comes in the same I think the same conversation

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<v Speaker 3>as the maternity leave, because that can be a justification

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<v Speaker 3>for why, you know, I think for the long term

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<v Speaker 3>good of this project, it's better to maybe find someone

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<v Speaker 3>else to delegate this to, or I can. I can,

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<v Speaker 3>I can be on this project for the next few months,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know what that project timeline is, and if

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<v Speaker 3>it's whether or not you feel like it's okay for

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<v Speaker 3>you to sort of last minute or not so last minute,

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<v Speaker 3>But is the project going to be completely thrown off

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<v Speaker 3>the rails if you were to leave for a few months,

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<v Speaker 3>Because if that's true, then the responsible thing is to

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<v Speaker 3>prepare for that and let them know I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 3>take this on, but we need we need some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of transition plan because I'm not going to be available

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<v Speaker 3>post like November or whenever you're having the baby. But

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, like, get the title and the compensation

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<v Speaker 3>squared away for your current role first, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>other stuff can come after. And I would definitely not

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<v Speaker 3>mention your pregnancy, so and the it shouldn't be part

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<v Speaker 3>of the calculation. I know that to if you mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you employ a lot of women, so you probably have

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<v Speaker 3>been in that position. So I can see your face

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<v Speaker 3>being like, but it's nice to tell us in advance.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, I mean I get everybody. I haven't really

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been handled. No, we've all I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember there was a young young woman on our team.

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<v Speaker 2>When she told us, she was like, we had just

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<v Speaker 2>hired her, and she sounded nervous to tell me. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, and I knew she was nervous, so

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<v Speaker 2>I made sure to be like, oh my god, that's

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<v Speaker 2>so great gratulation to be like, girl, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on the blessing here and we'll figure the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff out. Like and so if we did,

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<v Speaker 2>we've had I'm trying to think how many women have

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<v Speaker 2>on my team had like left from attorney leave at

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<v Speaker 2>least two or three and so and we navigated and

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<v Speaker 2>we managed, and it's like for me, it's nice to

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<v Speaker 2>know ahead of time because then we you know, we've

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<v Speaker 2>no one has come back to no job that just

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<v Speaker 2>has not happened. You've come back, and you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>were like, yay, we have more helping hands. We just

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<v Speaker 2>navigate and manage around you. Yeah, and so, but it

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<v Speaker 2>taught me to also create like a buddy system, which

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<v Speaker 2>we still use today. Where is there someone on the

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<v Speaker 2>job that make it do your job at least as

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<v Speaker 2>a see at a C plus if you're not here,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so it allows you to go on vacation

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<v Speaker 2>and stop checking your slack. It allows you to you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, because that worried me.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>People were still working when they shouldn't be working because

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, if I don't do it, it's just going

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<v Speaker 2>to pile up. And I'm like, there's always someone on

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<v Speaker 2>a team that could do your job at least to

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<v Speaker 2>a C plus so you can come back to be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not so crazy when I've come back.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah. So, I mean, but you know you're you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's me and how we navigate with my team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know your you know your company and like how

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<v Speaker 2>accommodating they are. But if you have some questions and

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