1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: From UFOs to ghosts and government cover ups, histories where 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: with unexplained events you can turn back now or learn 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, welcome 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt and I 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: am Ben. We are here with our super producer, uh Noel. 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: The the where where Rabbit Where? Rabbit Brown? Okay, all right, 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: you all the where Rabbit Brown? Excellent? Excellent. Well, it's 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: good to see you where Mr Rabbit And uh, you know, 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: it's good to see that you and I are here 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: safe in the audio studio with Noel. We found him, 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: found all these mics again and all the equipment, the 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: hard drives were unsmashed. Uh, Ladies and gentlemen. We played 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: a bit of an April Fools prank that we hope 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: you enjoyed. It seemed like most people enjoyed it. I think, 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: so there's a bit of a I guess it was 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: a warm reception. I there were some comments that didn't 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: make it to the page. Oh, well, yeah, that can happen, 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: but we do. We do appreciate everyone, uh, everyone playing 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: along with us there and not ruining the surprise for 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: some other people. I thought I saw some especially clever 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Tossino and spaghetti references which we could people suggesting where 22 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: we could hide amongst the spaghetti trees, which all came 23 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: from a brilliant idea on your part, Matt. And it's 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: strange just April Fools in general, before we get into 25 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: what the show is about today. April Fools in general 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: is not something that I'm the biggest fan of because 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 1: I think it can go too far, you know, sure, 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: and you can have fun with it as well. I 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: think a lot of companies do. I saw Google made 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: the actual cloud app or whatever it was the I 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: forget what exactly what the video was, but Google came 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: out with a thing this year about the actual cloud. 33 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: That's I haven't seen that yet. It was just the 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: idea that they're storing information on an actual, actual cloud. 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: At the end, there's a spoiler alert. Sorry, there's a 36 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: man and his daughter staring and looking at the clouds 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: and the father is explaining to the child about what 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: the cloud is and what it does. And at the end, 39 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: as it goes to the title screen, the little girls 40 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: just like, oh okay, that's uh yeah, nobody tell Wilhelm 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: Reich and the Oregon crew. I always wanted a cloud 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: buster just just to have that would be dangerous as 43 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: a thing at my house. Uh. Yeah. April Fool's Day 44 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: is interesting because it came about sort of as um 45 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: a result or symptom of some arguments regarding calendars, right, 46 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: and what we are talking about today is also something 47 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: that has a chronological debate dogging it calendar's play in 48 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: big It is one of the most important holidays, holy 49 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: days technically, we'll take it back to the proper etymology, 50 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: one of the most important holy days in the Christian sphere. 51 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: Every denomination celebrates this, maybe not on the same day, 52 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: maybe not in the same way, but it is a 53 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: big deal. Absolutely. The events celebrated in the life of 54 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ on this day are the perhaps the crux 55 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: of the religion. Yeah, and this, of course, as as 56 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: you all know, probably by now is Easter. We're talking 57 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: about Easter, the commemoration of the day that Christians believe 58 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, after his crucifixion, was resurrected and returned to 59 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: the living. And thankfully we work for a company called 60 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: how Stuff Works, and we've got wonderful articles that go 61 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: into just long detail in this stuff. So we're gonna 62 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: be talking at least partly, if not a lot. We're 63 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna speaking to you from an article called how Easter 64 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: Works on how stuff Works dot com right by a 65 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: writer named John Airy who did who did a bang 66 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: up job. So the first things we need to know 67 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: about Easter, um, the very first basic thing. It's super old. 68 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: It is very, very very old. The stuff that is 69 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: part of Easter, uh does pre date the time of Christ. 70 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: So we already know what Easter is today. Maybe that's 71 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: the best way to start. What what what happens today? Sure, 72 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: when you think of Easter nowadays in the modern twenty 73 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: fifteen world, you think about candy, think about jelly Bean's 74 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: Easter eggs. You know, a bunch of colorful eggs and 75 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: the dyes that go with them. This for me, the 76 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: smell of the vinegar die. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 77 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: I remember that really well as a child. Let's see bunnies. 78 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Everything about bunnies, even the baskets that you'll see little 79 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: children's walking around with, very cute. Um. But you know, 80 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: it's not just a commercial venture. That's not what Easter is. 81 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: It's not a festival for Hallmark and Kroger in all 82 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: these places. Yeah, yeah, it's uh according to like Encyclopedias 83 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: Miriam Webster Encyclopedia Britannica. Uh, it is a Christian church 84 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: festival celebrating, as we said, the return of Jesus Christ 85 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: to life following his death or ultimately defined as the 86 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: Sunday in early spring on which this festival is observed. 87 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: We said, that's the central festival of the church. But 88 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: it's also uh the oldest one, second oldest one excuse me, yes, 89 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: observance of the Sabbath would be number one there. And 90 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: unlike unlike festivals that you would other Christian festivals that 91 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: you would think of that are very important, like Christmas, 92 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Easter has been celebrated without interruption since the times of 93 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: the New Testament. Yeah. Uh. And the second big thing 94 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: to know as we go into this is that schedule wise, 95 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: Easter is complicated. So okay, let's just go into this. 96 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: This is from Britannica Encyclopedia Britannica. Western Christians celebrate Easter 97 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: on that first Sunday after the full moon, which is 98 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: the Paschal moon. Now that occurs on or next after 99 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: the vernal equinox in March one. And if the Paschal 100 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: moon which is calculated from the system of golden numbers. 101 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: And it's a little complicated here, but it doesn't necessarily 102 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: Easter Sunday doesn't necessarily coincide with an astronomical full moon, 103 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: which occurs on a Sunday. Easter is just the following Sunday, right, Yeah, 104 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: that's all confusing to me. Yeah. Right, So we're talking 105 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: about two different kinds of moons. There's a lunar calendar, 106 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: which is uh which we can get into a little 107 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: bit in more detail. But there's a there's the real 108 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: full moon, the one you walk outside and see in 109 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: the darkness, and then there is the scheduled the clindrical 110 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: if I can make up word moon. So the U. S. 111 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: Naval Observatories Astronomical Applications Department put some work into this, 112 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: and they've come to the conclusion that Easter is determined 113 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: by what's called the ecclesiastical moon, that would be the 114 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: calendar moon, right, and that's defined by these church constructed tables, 115 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: timetables that are permanently supposed to be used for calculating 116 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: the full or the phase of the full moon. This 117 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: full moon, as we said, isn't necessarily the same thing. 118 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: And this means that Easter is not necessarily the Sunday 119 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: after a full moon. It could just be the next 120 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: Sunday after the ecclesiastical moon. Here's the weird thing, Easter. 121 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: It means that Easter doesn't necessarily fall in the same 122 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: day every year. There's a fair wide range. I think 123 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: it's March until was it a yeah, yeah, it's a 124 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: movable feast. That that's the technical phrase and I and 125 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that phrase. Uh yeah, this uh, this date 126 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: you were talking about, this date range was decreed by 127 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: a pope, right, yes, uh, Pope Gregory the in fifteen 128 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: eighty two, and he'd made this or this was decreed 129 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: as a part of the Gregorian calendar, the changes that 130 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: are recurring in the calendar up until that day. Okay, 131 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: And in New Testament times, the Christian Church celebrated Easter 132 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: when people of the Jewish faith were observing Passover. By 133 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: the middle of the second century, though this moved Easter, 134 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: that is, moved to the Sunday after Passover. Uh. And 135 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: they the Council of nice Ceo, which we have talked 136 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: about many times. One of the decisions they made, and 137 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: I was way back in three a d or c e. 138 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Which if you always open up that old can of worms, right, 139 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: that all churches should celebrate the Easter together on a Sunday. However, 140 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: there's a big difference here between the Western Christian world 141 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: and the Eastern Christian world. Yeah, Eastern Orthodox Church it 142 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: may even celebrate Easter up to a month afterwards, which 143 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: it's interesting in the calculation of the data is based 144 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: on the Julian calendar for them, which is very different 145 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: from from the other one, the Gregorian calendar, which is 146 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: thirteen days behind, which is interesting. So Julian is thirteen 147 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: days behind the Gregorian. So perhaps you know there's some 148 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: difference there, right, there is some scheduling here. I don't 149 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: know if you could call it a huge controversy. It 150 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: was indeed historically a source of of enormous controversy. But 151 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: the the churches seem to have adopted a a sort 152 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: of live and let live attitude, you know. Yeah, And 153 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: ultimately maybe this is correct me if you think I'm 154 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: just being way too I don't know. I don't know 155 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: casual about this, but it is a festival to celebrate something. 156 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: For me, it isn't necessarily important if it gets on 157 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: the exact correct day. It just seems as though it's 158 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: important that it's celebrated on a yearly basis. I see 159 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: what you're saying. They're probably there are probably quite a 160 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: few people who feel that way. But the fact of 161 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: the matter is today, in modern times, we don't have 162 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, traveling to an Eastern 163 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: Orthodox church to protest at the time that they celebrate Easter. 164 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the actual day, right, Um, So 165 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: we've already um, we've already talked about some of this stuff. Um, 166 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: we do know that when this Sunday occurs, whenever it 167 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: does actually occur, it's uh, it's going to be celebrated 168 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: in different ways throughout the world or even from country 169 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: to country. In the United States, there's often a thing 170 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: called the Sunrise Service, Right. I've been to many of 171 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: those in my day, that's true. Yeah, yeah, you have. 172 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: I remember you mentioning some of these What what's that about? Well, 173 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: it was just, if I recall correctly, if I recall correctly, um, 174 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: we would go out to well, we had our church 175 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: fairly close to a lake, and we would go out 176 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: to this little chapel on the lake that was in 177 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: an exterior chapel. It was just pews that were outside 178 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: and we would as the sun would rise. It was 179 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: almost symbolic of Jesus resurrecting the sun itself, the s 180 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: U n right. Yes. And also um, the arrival in 181 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: Jerusalem before sunrise on that Sunday of his resurrection. Here's 182 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: an interesting fact that um, some people might not know. 183 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: It might be surprising to some of our listeners here 184 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: matt Uh. Easter was not celebrated or mentioned in the Bible. No, 185 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: it is not mentioned in the Bible. This this the 186 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: three days here, the three day period Good Friday, when 187 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: Jesus was observed too or thought to be killed then buried, 188 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: then on Easter Sunday, three days later, rose from the dead, 189 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: got out of the stone, moved, and he was gone. Um. 190 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: That is more of a not modern Christian but post 191 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Bible writing Christianity. I see uh. And it's actually at 192 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: least it's not mentioned as Easter, you know, in the 193 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: in the Biblical text. It's it's important for us to 194 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: say and and maybe we should have mentioned something about 195 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: this at the top, that when we when we talk 196 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: about these sorts of topics, these articles of faith, we're 197 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: we're not making any value or judgment call about what 198 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: you or your friends or your enemies or the people 199 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: you see on the street. Um, believe that's not really 200 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: our place. But what we can do, and what what 201 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: we are going to do, is look into the origins 202 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: of Easter, the possible origins of Easter as the event 203 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: it is today, So you know, counting for example, the 204 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: rabbit and the eggs and and and that sort of stuff. Um, 205 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: we're not in any way, uh, saying that we're going 206 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: to bust some story, but it is interesting to us 207 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: that there there's such controversy even today over how this started. 208 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: So it's pretty immediate when you look at just the 209 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: history of it, right yeah, Yeah, A lot of people 210 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: don't agree about the origins of Easter, which should be 211 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: no surprise. You often hear it attributed to a couple 212 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: of things. One would be pre existing religious rights, particularly 213 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: spring festivals and fertility rituals. Right yeah. A lot of 214 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: people would say these are pagan rituals. That's inside quotes 215 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: if you couldn't tell that, which again, pagan is a 216 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: loaded term. I used to hear that a lot, and 217 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: I still do hear the word pagan a lot. And 218 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to be referencing anything besides non monotheistic, right. Yeah, 219 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: it's interesting when when we hear the way that word 220 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,479 Speaker 1: is used often as sort of a pejorative or derogatory, 221 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: you know. And then there are neo Pagans who consciously 222 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: identify themselves as pagans. And then there are people who 223 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: feel like that's very disrespectful. You know, don't call me 224 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: a pagan for instance, I am a Wiccan or something 225 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: like that. Um. And you know, listeners, I know that 226 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: a lot of us out there are hearing stuff like 227 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: that and saying, well, I don't want to be offensive, 228 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: but what's the right term? Correct? So, so the the idea, 229 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: there's this, there's this one idea that's very popular that 230 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: the um celebration of Easter is based on an older 231 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: worship of a goddess, a Saxon goddess. And you'll hear this, 232 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: you'll hear this get thrown around. Is the definite truth, 233 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to know about Easter celebrations. 234 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: But when you trace back this claim, it all goes 235 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: back to one guy who's got a great name, the 236 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Venerable Beddy B. E. D. E. Yeah, and uh, he 237 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: wrote this thing called the Reckoning of Time in eighth 238 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: in the eighth century, and he states that um Anglo 239 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: Saxon's during a a month that was roughly around April 240 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: called uh who here we go yo stan up I 241 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: probably butchered that, but uh, but he he states that 242 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: there were these feast held in in honor of this 243 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: goddess uh spelled e O s t r e Easter Ouster, 244 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: but that this tradition died out and it was replaced 245 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: by this Christian tradition, this Pascal month, Pascal month um, 246 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: which you know, as we say, is the celebration of 247 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: the resurrection of Christ. So this guy venerable though he 248 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: maybe it is the only source of this claim apparently, 249 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: and uh you can find various historians saying that not 250 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: only was the only source of it, but they think 251 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: he made it up or he you know, perhaps it's 252 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: just tough to prove it right, right, Yeah, we didn't 253 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: have the kind of record keeping that we have today. 254 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: But also you know, we see this kind of um 255 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: parallel of things happen often. Uh. You know, just look 256 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: at the various Messianic figures who have had stories very 257 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: similar to what we would recognize as the modern life 258 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: and death cycle, life, death and rebirth cycle of Jesus Christ. 259 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: You know, so there are it's it's fascinating stuff. And 260 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: and one of our coworkers, Joe McCormick on Forward Thinking, 261 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: is a bit of a scholar with this kind of stuff, 262 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: so we we usually check in with him on this 263 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: before we do something. Joe, if you're listening, we're doing 264 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: our best. We will ask for your health retroactively, right, Yeah, 265 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: We'll just will change the calendar so that this comes 266 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: out on a different day. There's there's this other idea. 267 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: So so that's one idea, the idea that it's based 268 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: on an earlier quote pagan festival. Uh, there's the second idea, 269 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: which you also hear, that it is a purely Christian tradition, 270 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: that this is a that this is a solely original 271 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: Christian thing. And then you'll see, um, you know, you 272 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: will see different people arguing this, I would say, with 273 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: varying levels of persuasiveness. However, at this point, the um, 274 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: the secular truth of the matter is that the historians 275 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: and the researchers aren't bearing that out there finding um, 276 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: they're finding an evolution and revolution is a good way 277 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: to put it. We this is the same thing we 278 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: found when we were researching Christmas. How it just these 279 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: these holidays and celebratory feasts and stuff like that really 280 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: do seem to have evolved over time as religions, religions 281 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: and faith started meeting each other in the world, as 282 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: various faith started growing, and it kind of just became okay, well, 283 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: here are these set days where we can celebrate the 284 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: thing that we need to celebrate, UM, and we'll focus 285 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: it around this day because we all kind of already 286 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: had these days just because everybody had not the same calendar, 287 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: but they were looking at the same moon, right, everybody's 288 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: looking at the same sun and where it's going, and 289 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: how everything's changing in the world during cycles. It's very interesting. 290 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: Well and and also you know, it occurs to me, 291 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: Matt that maybe evolved as a loaded term for me 292 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: to check. But but there is there is this UM 293 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: I think incredibly inspiring and continual struggle that the entire 294 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: human species has been doing since we got into this 295 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: counting thing, and that's trying to remember the past and 296 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: when things happened, UH, such that we can predict when 297 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: things will occur again equinoxes, right, um, so, so much 298 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: of our early knowledge is astronomical. Uh, there's there's this 299 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: third one that we've kind of mentioned that it was 300 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: a tradition based on the pre existing Jewish Passover. And 301 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: here's something that throws a little bit of salt or shade, 302 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: whichever you preferred. Slaying is on the idea of this 303 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: Anglo Saxon goddess. The word for Easter in most non 304 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: English languages is based on the Pascal the p A 305 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: S c H a l root word Latin and Greek, 306 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: so it doesn't it doesn't seem as likely in other countries. Now, 307 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: of course, this this linguistic pattern doesn't give us a 308 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: clear origin point yet for for the the timing of 309 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: the celebration. Right, yeah, you there are there are people 310 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: who get degrees based very closely in just studying root 311 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: words like that and Greek words. They go back and 312 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: trying to analyze these ancient texts. So don't take it 313 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: from Ben and I. These are just the things we 314 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: have observed and researched. So when when we talk about 315 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: this stuff, when we talk about Easter, one of the 316 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: things that we have to talk about are the various 317 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: symbols that in modern times have become associate ated with this, right, Yeah, 318 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: one of the things you've heard and I remember hearing 319 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: this term first from uh song. I think it was 320 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: like a schoolyard song that we used to sing in 321 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: preschool about hot cross buns. And according to this book 322 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: dates and meanings of religious and other festivals, hot cross 323 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: buns that used to be kept specifically for Good Friday, 324 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: with the symbolism obviously of the cross, although it's thought 325 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: that the hot cross buns originated prior, you know, before 326 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: main mainstream Christian times, I guess pagan times. Um, the 327 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: bun represents the moon and its four quarters. That's what 328 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: that's the idea of the hot cross buns. So you've 329 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: got bun and then this, I think the pictures I've 330 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: seen or have a white cross on the center of it. 331 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: So then you've got the four quadrants or stages of 332 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: the moon. Yes, yeah, that which is which is fascinating 333 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: to me, because I had no idea that was true. 334 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: That the custom there apparently tracing back to when people 335 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: who worshiped Zeus would bake a cake in the form 336 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: of a bull with a cross upon it to represent 337 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: its horns. That's difficult than it sounds. You know. Have 338 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: you ever tried to shape something and bake it, not 339 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: without some kind of mold, not without some kind of mold. 340 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: I have tried and failed multiple times. I've made just 341 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: gingerbread abominations. Uh, there were there's some things that man 342 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: or at least this guy was not meant to make. 343 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: Um and this is bread to right, Yes, yeah, so 344 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: the the thing that is a hot cross bun now 345 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: was a talisman of sorts, right, and that's this fascinating. 346 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: People would hang buns from their kitchen ceilings to protect 347 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: their households from evil for the rest of the year. 348 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: And yeah, uh, and they were baked so much that 349 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: they didn't really get moldy as much as you would, 350 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, because I know what people to think, right, 351 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: you're thinking, so you hang these pieces of bread that 352 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: become mold in your house has that funky smell. It's 353 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: hard to place until you like look up and oh man, 354 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: that green stuff is probably not good precious mold. No. 355 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: Another thing, while we're on the subject of food, there's 356 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: typically an Easter feast of some sort, and this can 357 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: be super elaborate It can change depending on which country 358 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: you go to. Often people will have an Easter ham. 359 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: For instance, Um, that was my family. We would we 360 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: would always get a honey baked ham. Oh wow, I'm 361 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: such a middle class white kid, aren't it? What is what? 362 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: Why are you beating yourself up? I can just I 363 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: can see, I can see my family and I are 364 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: going to get our our ham for Easter? What kind 365 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: of sides did you guys make? We didn't cook, man, Oh, 366 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: you just got the sides from honey baked ham. That's 367 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: so sad. No, seriously, man, don't don't yourself up over that. 368 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: I think feast in general are amazing things. I'm down for. 369 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: Not that I did not love that brown sugarcoating on 370 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: that ham. Oh my goodness, it sounds good. I mean 371 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: hungry thinking about it. And and let's, you know, while 372 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: we're while we're talking about food, let's get to the 373 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: big one, right, the easter eggs? What? Why? Yeah? Even 374 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: as even as a child, at quite a young age, 375 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: I'm sure I wasn't the only one. I'm sure a 376 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: lot of you listeners were saying, so wait, Although we 377 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: are celebrating this very important day for the most important 378 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: person or the son of God. Uh, there's also an 379 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: anthropomorphic rabbit that lays eggs. I don't think about it. Then. 380 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: All I have to say is I have vivid memories 381 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: of running around my churchyard in Shambly, Georgia and finding 382 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: Easter eggs as a kid. I vivid memories of that 383 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: and how much fun I had. Yeah, Easter egg hunts 384 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: are really fun. It's cool and it gets people. Also, 385 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: it gets people to associate the day if they're you know, 386 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: if they're not into them more the belief system behind it, right, 387 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: then it gets people, to children at least, to associate 388 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: the day with a lot of fun, really good stuff exactly, 389 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: and then you start learning about it as you get 390 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Older's perfect idea. Here's one of the coolest things about 391 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: this though, What's that we found that this whole dying 392 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: of Easter eggs thing isn't something that was come up 393 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: with for, you know, to sell more die originally. This 394 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: is an ancient thing, and you know that sounds bad, 395 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: but a lot of the times traditions that we found, 396 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: some traditions in the modern way have some kind of 397 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: profit motive behind them. Some of the ones that we've 398 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: looked at it's really nice to know that this one, 399 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: at least originally isn't so if you if you go 400 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: way back to ancient times when the Egyptians and Persians 401 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: were running around. Uh well, Egyptians and Persians and ancient times, 402 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: uh uh, these two exchange dyed eggs with friends. Okay. 403 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: And it was in Mesotamia that Christians first gave eggs 404 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: to their friends at Easter to remind them of the 405 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: resurrection of Jesus as a little token of remembrance. Okay, 406 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: that makes sense that that comes from the author Rowland pertain. 407 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: So all the way back to Mesopotamia. There is a 408 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: modern industry now around dyeing eggs, but there was also 409 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: a practice there. It's it's uh interesting too, because you know, 410 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: an egg is symbolically it's very much a symbol of fertility, 411 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: don't you think. Oh yeah, So centuries ago, when Lent 412 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: ended on Easter Sunday, it became tradition for people to 413 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: give these decorated eggs as presents to their friends and servants. 414 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: Right and over time, this tradition in its continued, and 415 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: there there are some Eastern European regions, particularly in Ukraine, 416 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: where people are known for their beautiful and intricate, elaborate, 417 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: ornate egg designs. Right, oh, yeah, it's just beautiful looking 418 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: stuff there. Uh. It is weird ben to me that 419 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: an egg that you would use to die, that you'd 420 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: buy the store and then used to die for Easter. 421 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a symbol of fertility, but really 422 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: it's a perfect symbol of infertility because it's the result 423 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: of not being fertilized. Well, yeah, I guess you're right. 424 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: I never thought about that. Yeah, if it were actually 425 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: the fertility, there would be a chicken there and you'd 426 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: have to take it back and give it to the 427 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: mama chicken. This is a total side note. Have you 428 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: ever heard of ballut? No? So, ballut is this thing. 429 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's in the Philippines. It's a 430 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: snag where it's a they fertilize hank and they cook 431 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: it and you you know when you buy a crack, 432 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: open the shell and you eat up the embryo. Basically, 433 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: no worries. Man, I had one, did you really? Yeah? 434 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: Was it any good? I'm not eating him now, that's 435 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: for sure. And I don't know how much of that 436 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: is just a reaction to texture. You know what I mean. 437 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: But you know that has nothing to do with anything 438 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: except check it out listeners if you haven't heard of 439 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: that already. Side note, it is traditionally balute is traditionally 440 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: considered an aphrodesiac. I don't know why. I cannot speak 441 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: for the results. Maybe it's kind of like watching horror 442 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: films where you're just so freaked out by the experience 443 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: that you seek comfort that your nervous system just gives 444 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: you the fight or flight. So the tradition of giving 445 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: eggs to friends and associates towards the end of Lent 446 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: is according to Snopes we looked into this, eggs were 447 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: one of the foods forbidden during Lent. So Easter. Uh, 448 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: in Easter egg was like a special treat, a reward 449 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: of sorts and uh you know, the the candy Easter 450 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: eggs of the modern times go back to another another 451 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: more serious purpose in earlier Christianity, when hard boiled eggs 452 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: were dyed red in memory of blood of Jesus Christ 453 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: blood and given to children again to help to preserve 454 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: their health. Okay, so like you could get a hot 455 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: cross bun in the house, an egg for the kid 456 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: and that that um. Not Again, all of these things 457 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: vary a little bit across cultures. Um. They're also we've 458 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: talked about some traditional foods, so let's talk about some 459 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: traditional activities, right, So we talked about the sunrise services 460 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: held outside. Let's see, let's stroll on the world, shall we. 461 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's head over to Bulgaria. In Bulgaria, 462 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: people don't hide eggs. They have egg fights. Ben. That 463 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: sounds like fun and like a lot of work for 464 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: mom and dad in the morning or you know later 465 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: that evening when you gotta clean everything up. Um. So 466 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: here here's the thing. Whoever comes out of the game 467 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: with an unbroken egg is the winner and assumed to 468 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: be the most successful member in the family for the 469 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: coming year. So it's a nice omen or. And what 470 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: is the opposite of an omen? Uh, the opposite. You 471 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: could have a good omen You have good omen, then 472 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: it's a good omen for the family for that family member. 473 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: In another tradition, the oldest woman in the family will 474 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: take the faces of the little children and then rub 475 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: them with the first red egg she's colored, and that 476 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: will symbolize her wish that they have rosy cheeks. Health 477 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: and strength. And in Mexico we head on over to Mexico. 478 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: Then we find that children will smash traditionally smash eggs 479 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: over each other's heads in the week before Lent. Uh. 480 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: These eggs are filled with small pieces of paper rather 481 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: than raw egg So that's very nice again like people 482 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: thinking about mom and dad and we gotta do. In Germany, 483 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: eggs are dyed green on Monday Thursday. Yeah. This is 484 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: always between nine uh, the nineteenth of March and the 485 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: twenty two of April. Uh. It could be on different 486 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: days depending on the Gregorian or Julian calendar. Used. It's 487 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: the you're right, that was the Thursday before Easter, and 488 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: it commemorates the last Supper of Jesus Christ. And it's 489 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: called Mandate Thursday because I also commemorates that washing of 490 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: the feet. Uh m a U d y Yes, yeah, 491 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: that's the one uh. And this is something that is 492 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: bigger in other countries. It's not the biggest thing in 493 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: the United States. At least in Greece. There's a public 494 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: procession in Easter parade and these red eggs are tapped 495 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: together while people have a call and response chant. In 496 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: the US, there are some parades, the oldest being the 497 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: one at Atlantic City, and uh, the best one maybe 498 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: being the one in New York, which is often how 499 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: it goes with parades, the Fifth Avenue one, it's pretty awesome. 500 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: And uh, in England there's a thing called the hair 501 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 1: pie scramble and bottle kicking. Okay, that sounds fun, all right, 502 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: what's what's the story behind? Well, the story goes that 503 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: a woman was saved by hair running across the path 504 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: of a bull. So that's kind of interesting and possibly 505 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: symbolic on Easter Monday. On Easter Monday, hundreds of years ago. Now, 506 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: as a token of her appreciation, she bequeathed a piece 507 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: of land to the rector. And it's important to know 508 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: that the soul condition for this giving of the land 509 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: was that the rector have a hair pie made, h 510 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: a r e pie made to be distributed to all 511 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: the parishioners together with a large quantity of ale every 512 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: year for a feast. I mean that sounds cool. I 513 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: would be so down for that hair pie. Yeah, whichund 514 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: is horrible, right, yes, but it's it's fortunate for us, 515 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Matt that it brings us to one of the biggest 516 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: characters for this time of the year, and that is 517 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: the Easter rabbit, the Easter bunny, the Easter bunny. Yes, yeah, 518 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: it sounds like an old, long time favorite. Years Yeah, yeah, 519 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: I was a big fan. I had I think I 520 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: had a stuffed bunny, large stuffed bunny. Did you ever 521 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: see that website where it's just pictures of scary looking 522 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: Easter bunnies I have. I think we looked at that 523 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: together while never going back to that. You I go 524 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: back there just to check it out. Um. Right, So this, 525 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: this creature also not mentioned in this form in a 526 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: biblical text, but rabbits, like eggs are powerful symbols traditionally 527 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: of fertility and new life and and therefore an Easter ceremony. 528 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: You know this, this Easter bunny, like Santa Claus or St. Nick, 529 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: has become a popular children's character. Uh the year round. 530 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: Really you can see Easter Bunny. I don't know, it's 531 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: in the it's in the zeitgeist. You know, it's not 532 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: weird for there to be an Easter bunny sketch on 533 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: your favorite comedy show. But it could be that this 534 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: is sort of a historical mistake. Because Snope tells us 535 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: the all manner of rabbits are said to lay eggs 536 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: on Easter Day. Hold on what, Yeah, you're telling me 537 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: that rabbits lay eggs are said to you know, you 538 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: gotta be very careful with the language there. And that's 539 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: like the pursuit of happiness that's continued. So the the 540 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: hair itself always seen pre Christian times associated with fertility, 541 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: the returning spring and similar to the study of the 542 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: groundhog shadow on Groundhog Day, movements of the hair, because 543 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: originally was a hair, movements of the hair were as 544 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: seen as portents are possibly omens um ways to figure 545 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: out what would be happening in the coming year. So 546 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: the hair itself is uh. Hairs and rabbits are often 547 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: confused hairs and bunnies, and the hair is a larger 548 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: version with with some distinct differences. They're they're different animals. 549 00:35:54,280 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: They're not synonyms. But the Easter bunny is the is 550 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: the US go to, right, Yeah, the cute little hoppy 551 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: hoppy bunny. Yeah. So he shows up in the sixteenth 552 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: century literature as a deliverer of eggs um in his 553 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: own way in springtime. St. Nicholas bent On, you know, 554 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: rewarding the good would give out his candy and the 555 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: special treats in the shoes, and there are all kinds 556 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: of traditions with that. The little bunny then goes around 557 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: and gives out colored eggs, but only to the good 558 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: kids exactly, only ones get cold eggs. I guess I 559 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I've never I guess I was never that 560 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: bad of a kid. I soiled eggs. Oh that's unfair, 561 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: and you never know until you crack it open. Oh man, 562 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: that would that would ruin a child's spring. Yeah, it's 563 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: a fortune cookie. But so this this um Easter bunny stuff, 564 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: this is German in origin. Um leading back to kind 565 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: of what the venerable bed it was saying, uh hairs 566 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: were sacred to uh the different festivals and arguably to 567 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: this festival of uh the goddess Easter, which again still 568 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: a subject of debate for people. But at some point 569 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: the hair was replaced by the rabbit. And that's because 570 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: well common conjectures, because just they're hard to tell apart. 571 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 1: Was just well, well just you we got a rabbit. 572 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: That's fine, And I can imagine in a pinch and 573 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to get your Easter celebration ready. Nobody will 574 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: know it's a rabbit. Yeah, nobody will know. So here 575 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: is the I guess it's time for us to say 576 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: the big secret, which we've talked about and is is 577 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: similar to some of the stuff we saw a Christmas 578 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: and some of the stuff we saw on our Halloween episode, 579 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: and that is modern day Easter celebrations are a kind 580 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: of religious syncretism. What's religious syncretism? That's kind of what 581 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: I was mentioning earlier, when it's different religions borrowing from 582 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,959 Speaker 1: one in our faiths borrowing from one another, or kind 583 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: of congealing into one one particular celebration or one particular holiday, 584 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: or one particular belief kind of like how we've talked 585 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: about folk saints in earlier episodes. We had, um the 586 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: experiences I had with sin Simon and marshamon right, and uh, 587 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: maybe more recent, more recent example of religious syncretism would 588 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: be the followers of Santam Buerte in Mexico and the 589 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: Southwest United States. Uh, this is a folk saint who 590 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: is um sort of female patron of death and not 591 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: you know, not necessarily an evil or a bad thing 592 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 1: at all, just passing right as the spirit goes right. 593 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: So you know, religions, like people do not exist in 594 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: a vacuum, at least historically. And and so although this 595 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: though from our perspective, right, humans live a very short 596 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: amount of time in comparison to the amount of time 597 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: our species is around or even civilization. So it may 598 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: seem that none of the things that we see every year, 599 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: that our long held traditions are changing. But the truth 600 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: is that over time they do seem to change. Um, 601 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: they adapt to other cultures, different practices or traditions take hold. 602 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: And this is something that has kind of happened with 603 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: Easter eggs and with the rabbit. Yeah, exactly. You can 604 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: look back to those early Christian times to see the 605 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: the spring fertility rights and rituals that you can bring 606 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 1: in with the Easter eggs. Like we said, the eggs, 607 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: the rabbits, the hairs, um. A lot of this goes 608 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: back to that stuff. And for obvious reasons. You know, 609 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: these are fertility symbols. We're talking about springtime, right, yes, uh, 610 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: the symbolic resurrection of the world after the death of 611 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: the symbolic death of winter. And you can go back 612 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: further and find you know, stories of um gods who 613 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: are you know, like vegetative gods who died with the 614 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: harvest and were born again. And this is not in 615 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: any way invalidate, of course, the story of Easter or 616 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: dilute it. It's um, it's for makes it richer. Yeah, 617 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: well that's cool because there's this long history of this 618 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: kind of thing. I don't know that's what I see 619 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: at least, so it's uh, it's interesting. Though. One thing 620 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: we do know for sure is that, uh, the United 621 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: States was, in comparison to Europe at the time when 622 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: people are celebrating this stuff, they were the ones who 623 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: substituted the rabbit, the bunny rabbit for the hair, because 624 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: we just have more rabbits. Yeah, more rabbits. And you know, 625 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: it looks better on a postcard or in an ad 626 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: if you're having an Easter sale or something like that, 627 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: you have a cute little money that you just want 628 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: to reach out and touch and pet instead of this 629 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: hair that's you know, maybe standing up on its back legs. Right. Yeah, 630 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: So here's our here's our ultimate verdict of of what 631 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: people know now. And there's an exciting thing too, we 632 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: have to mention towards the end. Uh, despite the controversy 633 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: over its origins. It's indisputable Easter remains one of the 634 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: most important celebrations or again holy days in the Christian 635 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: experience right and along the way in its formation it 636 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: acquired primarily in terms of symbols, It acquired other pre 637 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: existing uh, symbols and traditions, right, And this doesn't invalidate it. 638 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: But those things, some of them, especially the rabbit, were 639 00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: around beforehand. Uh. The nature of their existence beforehand, other 640 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: than saying fertility rights, is still somewhat nebulous. You'll hear 641 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people claim that they have figured it 642 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: out right, but man, perhaps they have, but at this 643 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: point there's not a universally agreed origin of these practices 644 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: and the ways in which they melded to form the 645 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: the festival that is celebrated today. Yeah. I just want 646 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: to say I have so many great memories still of Easter, 647 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: and it makes me this podcast is making me want 648 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: to go visit my parents on Easter and go to 649 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 1: church with them, just to go do the whole thing. 650 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: Get my ham, really, I really want that ham. Now 651 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: are they going to get a ham? This year? And 652 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: you think, I hope? So I can only assume it's 653 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: been a while since I've done Easter with them. But yeah, 654 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: I go and try to bring my mom something. You know, 655 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna call them. I'm glad that you 656 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: do that and you bring something to your mom. That's 657 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: very nice. But I'm gonna call right after this. So 658 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: we are concluding our podcast day. We hope that this 659 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: look at some of the hidden origins of Easter symbols 660 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: has has been at least interesting. 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