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Speaker 1: mean it. The Vice President, you, you seem to have

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Speaker 1: follow the new rules, that you've observed this situation and

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Speaker 1: and you've the conclusion that, wow, the vice president defending

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, you know a couple couple of things here.

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Speaker 2: So one, I think if you are a Republican member

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Speaker 2: don't defend them. Maybe don't create a culture where people

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Speaker 2: feel comfortable putting a swastika in the background of their

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Speaker 2: zoom meetings. When you do those things, people are gonna

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Speaker 2: seventh in Israel forever ago, and not foreveral.

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Speaker 3: But two years ago.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I would I would be looking at

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Speaker 3: What kind of rhetoric am I allowing? What kind of

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Speaker 2: And there's no self reflection there from the Republican Party whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Instead, jd Vance is outright lining these are people. These

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Speaker 2: Some of them are in their fucking forties, Steve, Like,

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Speaker 2: some of them are older than me, and I'm fucking

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Speaker 2: it's a culture that Donald Trump is created, but it's

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Speaker 1: Well, it was remarkable was watching the clip of the

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Speaker 1: everybody out. All Nazis are fascists, but not all fascists

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Speaker 1: It's the culture. This is the culture at turning point,

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Speaker 3: This time they're scared. Let me be clear about that.

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Speaker 2: In terms of slowing them down, our best activists are

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Speaker 2: we can do to let people know that we're fighting

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Speaker 2: so Brandon Johnson created Who's my mayor here in Chicago?

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Speaker 2: Created ice free zones where ice is not allowed to go.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how enforceable. Some of that is

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Speaker 2: because they're increasingly encroaching on schools. But I made a

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Speaker 2: whole city of Chicago and ice free zone? Mostly a joke,

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Speaker 2: like this stops now in our city, in our state,

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Speaker 2: This isn't happening. You're not allowed here anymore. And I

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Speaker 2: and it's a it's a part it's a Department of

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