1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noone Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a fride day. What a 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: weekend plan? Patriots, Broncos, Rams, Seahawk redefining careers live in Chicago. Yeah, 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: it's a little frigid. It's the Herd wherever you may be, 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: however you may be watching or listening. Thanks for making 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: us part of your day. I don't know if everybody 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: quite realizes how big a weekend it is for Matt 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: staff Let me read you a stat real quick history 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: of the NFL history. One quarterback ever. This was in 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Week sixteen against Seattle. Four hundred passing yards, three touchdown passes, 19 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: no picks against the team that finished with the NFL's 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: number one scoring defense. That was Stafford week sixteen. Never 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: been done. And I've said, if he wins another Super Bowl, 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: I will put him one spot ahead of Aaron Rodgers 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: all time, and that sounds kooky. I think Aaron Rodgers 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: eleventh or twelfth best quarterback ever. I would insert Stafford 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: one spot ahead. There are no great movies with choppy endings. 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Go look at the last five years between the two. 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: Stafford has been on a heater seven to two in 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: the playoffs, multiple Pro Bowls, probably wins the MVP, more 29 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: touchdowns than Aaron, higher passer rating, easily the better quarterback. 30 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: But bigger than any stat is this. Aaron in his 31 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: prime in well run Green Bay only had one great 32 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: playoff run. One in his prime, he was one in 33 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: Feign Conference championships. Stafford late prime to out of his 34 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: prime in just five years, is on his second. There's 35 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: no other way to put it. Stafford was born into 36 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: a dysfunctional family in Detroit. The minute he was adopted 37 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: by the La Rams, he has been significantly the better quarterback. 38 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: All he needed was grown ups in the building. Add 39 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: this too, which feels very lway Brady and mahomes Matt Stafford. 40 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Of his seven career playoff wins, five he's had game 41 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: winning drives in a very short period of time. How 42 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: many would he had if he had twelve good years. 43 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: Aaron in that huge window in Green Bay didn't even 44 00:02:54,880 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: have three, only had two game winning drives. What define 45 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: l Way and Mahomes not just the trophies and Stafford 46 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: this is another thing. His passer rating, his completion percentage, 47 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: his yards per game, his touchdown to interception ratio go 48 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: up in the playoffs, again, very Mahomes and Brady, Aaron's 49 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: actually go down. So Stafford in the biggest games against 50 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: the best competition, is actually better. Aaron is slightly worse. 51 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: That's something. This is what you got during the Lway 52 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Marino debates. For a long time people said, oh Marino, 53 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: that release, because Marino, like Aaron, was prettier. The esthetic 54 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: was more jarring and amazing. But in the end, that 55 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: last three or four years for Lay separated the two. 56 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: You're getting that Aaron's always been the prettier quarterback. The 57 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: way he throws, connection to Hollywood kind of cool. Just 58 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: listen to how thinking of Aaron and Stafford. Just listen 59 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: to how McVeigh describes matt Stafford. This is instructive. 60 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: I think any great leader that I've ever been around, 61 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: and Matthew is a perfect illustration of that. There's extreme 62 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: ownership and there's accountability. That's what guys love about Matthew. 63 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you'll never see a guy when you look 64 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: at the way Matthew handles himself that you know, isn't 65 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: an excuse maker. You know, I've heard it said before. 66 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: I think excuses are tools of the incompetant, and and 67 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: Matthew is the furthest thing from that. He's got great ownership. 68 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: And I think that's why people want to follow him 69 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 3: is because of the way that he handles, you know, 70 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: stays humble and the you know, the great moments which 71 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: he's here, has had a handful of those, and then 72 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: in the moments that we can be better, he owns 73 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: it and now we can move on. And he's a 74 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: freaking stud. 75 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, dozen point fingers takes ownership, always accountable. I'm gonna 76 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: put Stafford with a Super Bowl one slought ahead Air, 77 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: one slot ahead of Aeron, and I think Aaron's top twelve. Ever, 78 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: that's how big of a weekend it is for Matt Stafford. 79 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: All Right, Brian Daball, it's gonna interview with the Buffalo Bills. 80 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is also interviewing. He's not gonna get the job, 81 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: but it's kind of an interesting interview. I want to 82 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: go back because we don't we don't tend to talk 83 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: about who got hired last year in the coaching cycle. 84 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: So if you go back one year in the coaching cycle, 85 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: Vrabel was an automatic. We all knew he was going 86 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: to be great, faster maybe than you predicted, but we 87 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: knew it was a big hit. We also knew Ben 88 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: Johnson had been the smartest, most clever coordinator in the 89 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: NFL for several years, had several We thought that was 90 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: going to work too, and we knew kind of all 91 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: of us, even people in Dallas knew. Brian Schottenheimer. That's 92 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: a pretty weak swing. So three of seven and he 93 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: kind of felt like, you Vrabel and Ben Johnson are 94 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: going to work. Schottenheimer. But when you went to Liam Cohen, 95 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, Aaron Glenn, I don't know, Pete Carroll I 96 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: thought would stabilize the Raiders. That was a mess. But 97 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: in a lot of the young guys, he didn't really know. 98 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: And I think that is where Brian Dabele is. I 99 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: don't know the best part about him. It's an offensive League, 100 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: and he's an offensive coach, and he's worked with Josh Allen. 101 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: The worst part he was twenty forty and one with 102 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: the Giants and it ended ugly. So very few of 103 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: these coaches, all these interviews are blue chip stocks. That's 104 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh that will work with the Giants. That's my prediction. 105 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: Vrabel A Harbaugh, Jim or John Sean Pate blue chip stocks. 106 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 1: The rest of them, including Brian Dable, who I like. 107 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: It's like venture capitalism. There's a lot of promise, there's 108 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: a lot of hope you need restructuring a new leadership. 109 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: But it should be noted all those smart people with 110 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: all that money venture capitalists, their hit rate is twenty percent, 111 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: and the hit rate on coaches not named Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Vrable, 112 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: the hit rate is closer to twenty percent than seventy 113 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: five percent. I don't know what he's going to be. 114 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: I know what he's inheriting, new stadium, stable ownership, better 115 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: revenue going forward, great left tackle, running back, superstar quarterback, 116 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: great tight ends, Decent defense, not special. Eric Mangini considers 117 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Dable a friend, knows him well. Thoughts on Dable landing 118 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. 119 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 4: Brian is the ultimate Buffalo guy. He grew up in Buffalo. 120 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: He had literally work for the Buffalo Tourism Bureau because 121 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: he loves Buffalo so much. So from that perspective, yeah, 122 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 4: it's a great fits. He's got a really good relationship 123 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: with the most important player on the team and a 124 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: lot of respect from it, and in my mind, did 125 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: a significant amount to help develop him from our fairly 126 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 4: raw talent in college to a much more polished talent. 127 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom Brady, one hour from now, I do feel 128 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: strongly going into these weekends games, and I will have 129 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: one hour from now. We're gonna list we did yesterday 130 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: in the AFC the ten best players in the Seahawks Rams. 131 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:42,239 Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding you. You get to like nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. 132 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: It's like guys who could make Pro Bowls. There is 133 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: so much talent in the Seattle Rams game. I think 134 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: the winner of the NFC wins the Super Bowl, regardless 135 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: of who they play. I do feel strongly this morning 136 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: that New England is the side, and I feel less 137 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: strong but with some conviction the Rams are the better bet. 138 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: So when I list those top ten players. It's interesting, 139 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: it's very evenly split where the players land. I think 140 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be one. It's on Fox, it's going 141 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: to be one for the Ages, completely stacked defenses. I 142 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: said this earlier in the week. If you took the Seahawks, 143 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: Rams and made a Pro Bowl team just on the 144 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: Seahawks and Rams, it could compete with the rest of 145 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: the league. The offensive line would be the weakness. Defensively, 146 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: wide receivers, tight ends, backs, quarterbacks, coaches McVeigh, coaches, Mike 147 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: McDonald's the DC. 148 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 5: I mean it is. 149 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: You just do not get this level of talent going 150 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: up against each other very much. And j Mac, you 151 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: will have your picks coming up in the final hour 152 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: of the show. But I do think in the Rams Seahawks, 153 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: we would acknowledge now they're not a draft away. This 154 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: is as good maybe as the Rams will be because 155 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: it's Matt Stafford potential last year is as good as 156 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: the Rams are going to be potentially for the next 157 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: several years. They're probably not in a draft going to 158 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: find the next Matt Stafford. Maybe they do. I doubt 159 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: it's certainly not an older, experienced guy. And I think 160 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Seattle's very very good. I think their window. I think 161 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: Seattle this year, next year, the next year. They have 162 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: drafted so well. I think the runway for Seattle to 163 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: be good. I think Darnold's only twenty eight. I think 164 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: Seattle's going to be very good for minimum three years, 165 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: could be longer. I think it feels like there's urgency 166 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: with the Rams because remember last year with Matt Stafford, 167 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: we didn't know if he was coming back, and then 168 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: he didn't really practice before the season because of a 169 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: bad back. So if you're asking me who does the 170 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: game mean more for, I would say this may be 171 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: the best Rams team for a long period. Interesting, there 172 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: is another Stafford on the market they can go buy. 173 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: Keep an eye on c. J. Stroud. 174 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 6: I'll just plant that out there now with his Houston 175 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 6: situation and his agent specifically. But I will say Seattle 176 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 6: amazing team. They've been outstanding all season. Colin, you know, 177 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 6: things kind of broke their way. Michael Parsons gets injured 178 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 6: for the Packers. That's a huge swing. The forty nine 179 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 6: ers entire roster decimated. Some things did kind of break 180 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 6: their way for Seattle. 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Check us out on YouTube, Subscribe, 199 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 7: hit that thumbs up icon. 200 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: Coming away Seattle and the Rams about week seven eight 201 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: nine felt like they were just you know, Philadelphia was 202 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: good but couldn't get their offense together. You know, there 203 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: were good teams, green Bay was good, but you know, 204 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: people were complaining they're not they're running games not substantial 205 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: and then they make you know, and the Mica thing, 206 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: he gets hurt and you're like, Okay, that's not gonna work. 207 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: And San Francisco was good offensively, but defensively lose Fred Warner. 208 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: They don't have Bosa. So if you really go back 209 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: to like week seven, eight, nine, ten, it kind of 210 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: felt And then the Rams at the end of the 211 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: year didn't quite feel like they were buttoned up. And 212 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: then last weekend they go out, they don't have a 213 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: drop pass, a penalty or a turnover against Chicago and 214 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: literally had to play perfect to win. So you know, 215 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: over the course of a journey, what we have is 216 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: I think the two most consistent for the most weeks 217 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: during the regular season. See Rams with the best teams 218 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: in the NFC didn't have huge holes. Rams special teams 219 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: are dubious about every third game it costs them something. 220 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: Secondary is not great New England. I think their personnels 221 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: better than everybody else thinks. I think their secondary is fantastic. 222 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: Their coaching's fantastic. And Drake may May be that guy. Maybe, 223 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, we start talking about quarterback play. If Drake 224 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: may gets to a Super Bowl and wins it, he's 225 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: a top five quarterback, is he not? I mean that's 226 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: what Mahomes does That's what the great ones do. They 227 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowls early and they win them early. 228 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: That's very very rare. So as I'm prone to do 229 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: when I get five or six times a year, you 230 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: get into these massive games, I get at the out 231 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: the yellow pad and I rank the top ten players, 232 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: and generally the team that has the most top ten 233 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: players feels like the team that wins the game. And 234 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: here we go with the NFC Championship. Number ten, number ten, 235 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: Pooniford Poona Ford Rams. He was a Charger and he 236 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: was a really good player. He's been sensational. In fact, 237 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: he's the Ram's highest gradded defensive player, right next to 238 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,359 Speaker 1: Kobe Turner in that interior D line. Just an incredibly 239 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: impactful offseason move. And listen, it's hard to run on 240 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: the Rams, and one of the reasons is Poona Ford. 241 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: He's at ten, number nine. Kevin Dotson, second highest gridded 242 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: guard in the league, top ten run blocker. They stole 243 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: him from Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was not reportedly going to start him. 244 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: He has been sensational for the Rams since he arrived. 245 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: So the Rams guards, to me, is the best guard 246 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: combination in the NFL and Kevin Dotson is outstanding. Number 247 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: eight Jared Verse. People think he's having a down year. 248 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: He leads the NFL and quarterback hits. He ranks top 249 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: five and pressures including the playoffs. The reality is he's disruptive, 250 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: and Sean mcvayh talked about that. In this league, you're 251 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: often judged simply on sacks, but pressures and hits. Jared 252 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: Verse is elite. He's number eight. Number seven Kyen Williams 253 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: had a fumbling issue well, fourteen straight games without one 254 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: fourth highest graded running back in the league. I think 255 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: they'd like to play Blake coram Moore. It's hard to 256 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: get him on the field. Top five in rush yards, scrimmage, touchdowns, 257 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: just really good. He's great at getting the extra yard 258 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: to yard and a half. He is just fantastic. You 259 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: stop him at three, he gets four. He's eliminated the 260 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: fumble issue. You can tell that McVeigh. Even with Stafford 261 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: and Puka and Davonte McVeigh, he gets into some zone. 262 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes he can take over games with Kyron Williams. Number 263 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: six Kenneth Walker, highest graded running back in the league, 264 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: and they don't have the old line. The Rams do 265 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty plus scrimmage yards in three of 266 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: his last four games. I remember at Michigan State he 267 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: was very good after contact, really hard to bring down 268 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: on the opening shot. Clever can change directions. You get 269 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: some speed, you absolutely get some power. He has been 270 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: a great draft pick by the Seahawks Kenneth Walker at 271 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: number six, Number five. Sam Donald ranked fourth in the 272 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: league in big time throws. Only quarterback in league history 273 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: with fourteen plus wins and four thousand passing yards in 274 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: back to back years. And he did it with two 275 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: different teams. He did it with more experienced Minnesota and 276 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: very young Seattle. Listen he has he can be reckless. 277 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: You know, I loved Andrew luck Stafford can be two. 278 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: But man, Sam Donald wins a lot of games and 279 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: is super productive. He's in at number five, Number four. 280 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon, cornerback Seattle, not allowed a touchdown in coverage 281 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: since Week four. The highest graded cornerback. I remember when 282 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: he came out of Illinois, and I remember reading a 283 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: draft preview and they're like, oh, like he's he's physical, 284 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: like a linebacker or a safety. You're getting a really physical, 285 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: aggressive corner. He was a first round pick a. He 286 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: is the best corner in this game. There's an argument 287 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: the best corner in this league. He just is great 288 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: and keeps getting better. Number three JSN Jackson Smith and 289 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: jigbuck led the NFL in receiving yards in his first 290 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: season as number one. Second highest gridded wide receiver. Remarkable hands, runs, 291 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: great routes unlike DK Metcalf the route tree does it all, 292 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: never drops passes, very elusive, very clever. Does he have 293 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: great speed? 294 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 5: Now? I know? 295 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: Is he makes really good corners get crossed up. He 296 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: is just a sensational NFL player. Number two Matt Stafford, 297 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: highest guidded quarterback, can be a bit reckless on a 298 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: seven and two career playoff record with the Rams with 299 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: five come from behind playoff wins. He plays bigger and 300 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: big moments. Now he's got Davonte Adams and Pooka in 301 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: a good run game, but he led the NFL in 302 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: passing yards. He is my MVP. The no look passes. 303 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: You know he's not super mobile, and you'd prefer he 304 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: has more mobiley. I don't know if he had. I 305 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: don't think he had a rushing first down this year. 306 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: That's kind of the flaw and he could be a 307 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: bit reckless. He's at two number one PUKA, highest receiving 308 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: yards per game in league history, averages ninety five, highest 309 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: gridded player in the entire league this year, led the 310 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: NFL in targets this year and receiving yards six touchdowns 311 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: over his last five games. I think he has the 312 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: strongest hands I've ever seen on any receiver. He can 313 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: get dinged up from time to time, but I mean 314 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: when he has the ball, you're not getting it. Incredibly 315 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: strong player, almost no body fat like, just does everything well. 316 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: The routes yards after the catch, incredibly strong hands can 317 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: beat you deep lethal underneath. So the top two players 318 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: are Rams three through six. Of the Seahawks seven through 319 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: ten are the Rams. Number eleven. I have Kobe Turner 320 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: for the Rams, twelve, thirteen, fourteen to fifteen all Seahawks, 321 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: so pretty evenly split on the best players there there. 322 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: When I look at this, I could have gone fifteen easily, 323 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: and it would have been about eight seven Rams. That's 324 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: what it kind of fell. Eight seven Seahawks, eight seven Rams. 325 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: Kobe Turner was number eleven. I think I had Leonard 326 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: will You number twelve and a bunch of Seahawks, but 327 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. The one you all want to 328 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: push back on, of course, is Sam Darnold at number five. 329 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: Everybody abouts to push back on that. Greg Hosel talked 330 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: this week about Seattle's balanced attack. 331 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 5: Walker's been much better. 332 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 8: Walker has been attacking downhill much more so over the 333 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 8: last three four games, and that has allowed them to 334 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 8: stay on schedule. And it's also with their defense allowed 335 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 8: Donald not to have to throw that many balls. Now, 336 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 8: whether that happens in this game, that's hard to know. 337 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 8: You don't know how it's going to play out. But 338 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 8: in an ideal world, I don't think they want Sam 339 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 8: Donald dropping back thirty five times. I think they wanted 340 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 8: to be a very balanced offense and have their defense 341 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 8: in some ways control the paying tempo of the game. 342 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, Seattle's defense statistically better, Seattle's special teams better. You know, 343 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: the offense for the Rams was number one in the league. 344 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a shot at Donald. There's very 345 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: few quarterback Tom Brady can throw forty times, Mahomes could 346 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: throw forty times. I mean, even last week with Josh 347 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: Allen having to carry the offense turnover prone, I don't 348 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: want my quarterbacks throwing a lot. I don't. I think 349 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: Mahomes Brady are very rare. Aaron Rodgers in his prime, 350 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: very very rare. That I'm you know, Aaron Mahomes Brady 351 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: didn't throw a lot of picks. You start asking guys 352 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: to throw forty forty two forty three times, that means 353 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: the run game's not very supportive. You're throwing a lot 354 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: of times on third and six and seven, not a 355 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: space I think is good for most quarterbacks. Slinging Sammy 356 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: d two and a half point favorite at home, third 357 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: time he's faced the Rams this year. 358 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: Tom Brady around the Corner. One more Herd. The Herd 359 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: streams twenty four hours a day, seven days a week 360 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: within the iHeartRadio app, Search Herd to listen live or 361 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: on demand whenever you like. 362 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: You know, Scattle is one of those teams that they 363 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: smell blood, and you get this a lot of times 364 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: when you get a kind of a young athletic team. 365 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: Young teams tend to play with a lot of emotion 366 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: and they can get down on themselves. They can get 367 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: a little reckless at times when you're a young team, 368 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: but they also when a young team is feeling it. 369 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: Like last week the Seahawks Niners. You're about eight minutes in, 370 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: You're like, it's like twenty three year old Mike Tyson duck. 371 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: There's no winners and Seattle. You don't want to let 372 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: Seattle start playing like that because young teams play with 373 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: so much energy and emotion. Tom Brady, he'll be calling 374 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Rams Seahawks. What a year for Tom. We only give 375 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: him the good games. He's got an all time classic 376 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: and I can't wait for this thing. So I've said 377 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: this about the Seahawks all year. If you turn the 378 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: sound down on your TV, they just look faster and 379 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: athletic and longer. And they're young, and young teams play 380 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: with a lot of energy, and it's do you agree 381 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: with that? And if you're the Rams, how do you 382 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: game plan against that youth and energy and speed? 383 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 9: It is It is a lot to handle. And when 384 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 9: we're there last week and the Niners deferred and kicked 385 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 9: the ball to Shaheed and Shaheed goes ninety five yards, 386 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 9: that place absolutely exploded. 387 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 5: And it's just hard to overcome that. 388 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 9: If they play well on special teams, their defense, we 389 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 9: know they're going to play great. 390 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: And if they can make some explosive pass plays. 391 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 9: They are going to be very tough to be Now, 392 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 9: the one team that can do it, I think is 393 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 9: the Rams. They've already proven they could do it. They 394 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 9: almost did it in Seattle the last time. This game 395 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 9: is just incredible. 396 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 5: For me to be at and I'm so excited. 397 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 9: I talked to my boy Kevin Burkhart earlier and he's excited. 398 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 9: This is in our mind at the game of the 399 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 9: year for us, this is our super Bowl. We're gonna 400 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 9: We're gonna be fired up to be there. 401 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 5: To call it. 402 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: You know, I believe coaching has a greater impact than 403 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: calling plays. Your Patriot teams did not fumble and did 404 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: not commit pas last last week in awful weather. The 405 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: Rams had no drop passes. There's zero or one penalty 406 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: they I mean, no turnovers in horrible weather for an 407 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: LA team. And so my takeaway is some of that's 408 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: just in practice. Go back to your career. You guys 409 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: didn't fumble, your offense didn't have penalties. What's the secret 410 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: to that. You guys didn't drop many passes. What's the 411 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: secret to that. 412 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 9: There's a there's an urgency in practice that the coaches 413 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 9: drive home every single day to do the right thing, 414 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 9: to make the right decisions with the ball, to you know, 415 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 9: work on catching drills pre practice, during practice, post practice, 416 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 9: in the offseason, when you would do like fumbling drills 417 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 9: is a great example for coach Belichick and kind of 418 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 9: his genius if first of all, if you fumbled, you 419 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 9: were out of the game. All the backs knew that. 420 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 9: So we did so many drills in practice that were 421 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 9: about covering up the ball, ball security, tackling drills. 422 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 5: Not always you would. 423 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 9: Tack or bring some of the ground, but you're try 424 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 9: to punch the ball out. 425 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 5: Every day. 426 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 9: For the last twenty years of my New England career, 427 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 9: we worked on those things in practice. So the reality 428 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 9: of what happens in practice is it shows up in 429 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 9: the game all the time. 430 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 5: Bill would actually. 431 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 9: Take he called him grease balls literally, I know, some 432 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 9: silicone spray that he would spray on the ball and 433 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 9: when we would do running plays he would put it 434 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 9: in in practice, I would take this greased football, give 435 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 9: it to the back. He would have to tuck the ball, 436 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 9: secure it with both hands. The shoulder pads were withal 437 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 9: just so they didn't fumble. So that urgency and that 438 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 9: point of emphasis always showed up in the games because 439 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 9: in the games it was always harder in practice than 440 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 9: it was in the games. And I think you give 441 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 9: the Rams coaching staff so much credit for a performance 442 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 9: like that in Chicago last week. You're talking about a 443 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 9: team that probably had a seventy degree temperature difference from 444 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 9: leaving LA to landing in Chicago. 445 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 5: I'm glad, by the way, the game's not on Chicago 446 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: this weekend. 447 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 9: With what I just saw, the temperatures were going to 448 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 9: be coming this weekend. But for them to perform like that, 449 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 9: lack of penalties, obviously, no turnovers, and the drop passes, 450 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 9: that's just I'm very jealous of receivers that don't drop 451 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 9: balls too. By the way, that's a great stat for 452 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 9: any quarterback. But they're doing all the right things. This 453 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 9: is a surgical offense. They have so many weapons. Everybody 454 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 9: touches it. You've got to account for everybody. 455 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 5: You've got to. 456 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 9: Count for fifty three and a third of the field 457 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 9: in the width, you have to count for the entire 458 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 9: length of the field. They have an explosive passing game, 459 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 9: they have a precise passing game. They have a ball 460 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 9: control offense. There's a lot of ways the Rams can 461 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 9: win too, So this is going to be a tremendous 462 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 9: matchup between the top scoring offense and the top scoring 463 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 9: defense in Seattle on the road, sixty eight thousand fans. 464 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 9: The stadium is going to be on fire. I can't 465 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 9: wait for kickoff. 466 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: You won a super Bowl first year in tam Stafford 467 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: won it first year in LA and for both of you, 468 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: there were choppy moments. I remember you it was seven 469 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: and five and there was a game in Chicago it 470 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: and Matt I think he led the league in interceptions 471 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: that year. So Darnold, first year with Seattle, what is 472 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: the hardest part about that year? One journey for a 473 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: quarterback with the new team. 474 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 9: Well, there's a lot of newness to the year, and 475 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 9: there starts the obviously new location, new practice format, new receivers, 476 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 9: new offensive line, new line calls, new center, all the 477 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 9: things that you kind of take for granted when you 478 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 9: have continuity. When I went to Tampa, all those things 479 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 9: were totally different. So it's like, how do you chip 480 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 9: away at those variables kind of one day at a time. 481 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 9: You get familiar with the skill players, that's what I 482 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 9: did first. Then you get familiar with the center I 483 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 9: had Ryan Jensen. In that offseason, we spent thirty days 484 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 9: working on snaps and snap counts, and then when you 485 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 9: got to training camp, we worked on a different variety 486 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 9: of plays and so forth, and it's just chipping away. 487 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 5: And it took us, you. 488 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 9: Know, twelve games to feel like we were starting to get. 489 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 5: Familiar with the things we were really. 490 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 9: Good at and also to put aside the things that 491 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 9: we weren't good at, so that the time that the 492 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 9: you know, December came in the end of the playoffs, 493 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 9: we started to play our best football. Ultimately culminated in 494 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 9: a home super Bowl against the Chiefs where we played 495 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 9: our best game of the season. And I think for Seattle, 496 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 9: they're going to need to play two games the best 497 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 9: they have all year, because to beat the Rams for 498 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 9: Seattle is going to be a tall task. This is 499 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 9: a game that's both teams are going to have to 500 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 9: play their best. You're talking about teams that are in 501 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 9: the same weight class. They've proven that the two meetings 502 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 9: this year, if you cumulatively, if you had up points 503 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 9: and yards, they've been separated by one point and one yard, 504 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 9: which is pretty phenomenal. That's as tight as it gets. 505 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 9: And to be there for round three, man, it doesn't 506 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 9: get any better than that. 507 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's go New England a franchise, you know 508 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: well against Denver. When I think back to your career, 509 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: the only place that sticks in my mind where you 510 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: struggled was at Denver. Now you face good teams. That's 511 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: Fairs for reminding me of that. I appreciate that. Sorry, 512 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tom. It's just on the paper here. I 513 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: just you know, I just read it what they write. 514 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: But there is something about Denver, the altitude, Josh Allen 515 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: last week struggle turnovers. What is it about Denver. 516 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 9: It's a unique playing environment. You're right, there's altitude. There's 517 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 9: nowhere else like that in the country. They have an 518 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 9: incredible fan base. They're so loud, it's a deafening stadium 519 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 9: and when they get their momentum going, you know, it's 520 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 9: it's a tough place to play. And the two times 521 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 9: we lost in twenty thirteen season twenty fifteen season, Denver 522 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 9: had a tremendous defense with Von Miller kind of leading 523 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 9: the charge. DeMarcus Ware was on that team. My boy 524 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 9: Keith to Leave was playing corner Chris Harris. They were 525 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 9: so good on defense, and that kind of stymys the 526 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 9: offensive rhythm. It's a hard place to play, and you know, 527 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 9: there's the reason why they're the number one seed. They 528 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 9: played great D defense all year. Sean Payton, I mean, 529 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 9: what kind of coaching job has he done in a 530 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 9: short period of time. He's just got one of the 531 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 9: most incredible skill sets as a coach in terms of 532 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 9: his leadership ability, his urgency. He sets the culture for 533 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 9: the organization, but he also runs the offense. It's a 534 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 9: really difficult thing to do. And he's been a tremendous 535 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 9: coach in the league for a long time. It's no 536 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 9: surprise to me that they're in a position and the 537 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 9: Patriots they're going to have to play their best game 538 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 9: of the year. This is not going to be, you know, 539 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 9: an easy task for them to go to Denver and 540 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 9: win in this environment. 541 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: Jared Stidham, he was your backup for a year. Give 542 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: me a scouting report. 543 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 5: You know, I've always loved Stiti. 544 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 9: He's a very natural pastor of the football, very competitive, 545 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 9: very smart. He's got sneaky good athleticism. He's performed well 546 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 9: out there when he's gotten opportunities, and I know the 547 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 9: Denver coaching staff from the things that I read this week, 548 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 9: everybody's got a tremendous amount of confidence in Stee what 549 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 9: he can do. And you know, it's tough losing both nicks. 550 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 9: That's a brutal injury, certainly at that stage of the game, 551 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 9: at this stage of the season. But at the same time, 552 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 9: you know Ctity's got a lot of ability. There's a 553 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 9: reason why he's been on this club, and there's a 554 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 9: reason why Sean Payton has a lot of confidence in him, 555 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 9: and I wouldn't sleep on him at all. He's proven 556 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 9: he can make NFL caliber throws, lead teams to victories 557 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 9: by playing good football, not turning the ball over, and 558 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 9: he's going to need that because New England's defense is 559 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 9: pretty absurd as well. So there's really four good defensive 560 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 9: football teams here late in the season playing in these 561 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 9: championship games, and it's not going to be easy out 562 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 9: there for anybody. This has got to be clean football, 563 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 9: no turnovers, no penalties, no kind of unforced airs. Whoever 564 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 9: wins the special teams battle field position will have an advantage, 565 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 9: and then it will come down to, in my view, 566 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 9: third down and situational football in the red zone. Who's 567 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 9: kicking field goals, who's scoring touchdowns? These games are going 568 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 9: to be very close, and they're playing for a lot. 569 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 9: This is the chance to go to win a world championship. 570 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 9: So no bigger weekend in football than this. 571 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: I think the most underrated trait for great quarterbacks isn't arm, speed, 572 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's humility. You're the highest paid guy, Eventually, 573 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: you're the most talked about that you're going to lose, 574 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: and you're the only person beyond the coast that always 575 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: goes to the podium. I think humilities completely underrated. Cocky 576 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: does not work in this league. It turns teammates off. 577 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: And I've never heard a single teammate of yours in 578 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: New England, even when Randy Moss left early. He loved 579 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. And I think that's your humility. I see 580 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: Drake May, I literally feel like I'm watching you when 581 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: you were young. That's had to have jumped out to 582 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: you too with Drake, has it not? 583 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, very much so. 584 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 9: And you know Patrick Mahomes another great example of someone 585 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 9: who's always you know, humility through incredible success. If you're 586 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 9: not humble, this game will humble you. And every time 587 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 9: you take the practice field, there's an expectation perform at 588 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 9: a high level. And when you're one of the best 589 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 9: to be playing, you are the measuring stick for every 590 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 9: team and they're going to come out there and you're 591 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 9: usually going to play their best game against you. Now 592 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 9: that's a positive if you understand that, and then you 593 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 9: know it's the saying iron sharpens iron. 594 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 5: You're getting someone's best. 595 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 9: That means you've got to be at your best, which 596 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 9: over long term, that's a great way to continue to develop. 597 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 5: But Drake May has that humility. 598 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 9: Everything that comes out of his mouth is always about 599 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 9: the team. It's always about praising his defense, praising his 600 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 9: offensive line, and that's how you connect with people. That's 601 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 9: the reality. That's what great leaders do. Great leaders are 602 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 9: in service to other people. It's not what can you 603 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 9: do for me? It's what can I do for you? 604 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 9: How can I be the best to support your dreams, 605 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 9: your goals, your vision, whether that's supporting your coach or 606 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 9: supporting your offensive lineman, supporting your receivers. True leadership is 607 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 9: about humility, because true leadership is about service, and how 608 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 9: do I show up every day to be the best 609 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 9: I can be for my teammates. That really should be 610 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 9: the lesson for all quarterbacks in the NFL. 611 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: Forty five seconds, because you've got to go. You got 612 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: a big I imagine a zoom meeting with McVeigh. 613 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 9: You gotta pepper because you're you know everything, you know 614 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 9: my whole schedule. 615 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: I got to ask you this, though, everybody in the 616 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,479 Speaker 1: world saw you watching Fernando Mendez, who I absolutely love. 617 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: What's just your What did you see from him? What 618 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: did you see from the quarterback? Yeah? 619 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 5: It was. It was also a great experience. 620 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 9: Obviously, I live in Miami, so it was a thirty 621 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 9: minute drive to the game, and I and the fact 622 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 9: that they were playing in the game and all worked out. 623 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 9: My son wanted to go to the game. I brought him. 624 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 9: We sat up there in the suite and got to 625 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 9: be on the field in the pre game and have 626 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 9: just observed, and I haven't been to a college football 627 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 9: game and so long, I haven't been never been to 628 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 9: a national championship game, but just to see kind of 629 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 9: the environment, the atmosphere, you know, did it feel too 630 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 9: big for anybody? And he's played tremendous, you know, all 631 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 9: season sixteen and oh leading his team. And again he's 632 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 9: another guy that you know when you hear him speak. 633 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 9: You know I always kind of judge quarterbacks that go, 634 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 9: how would I have answered that? And he's just a 635 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 9: very mature young man and he's got a bright future. 636 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 9: And you know, everybody coming to the league, there's still 637 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 9: so much room for development. Nobody's a finished product. I 638 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 9: don't care whether you're won the Heisman or you're one 639 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 9: hundred and ninety ninth pick in the draft. It's what 640 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 9: do you do when you get there? How important is 641 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 9: this to you? Are you obsessed with your job? Are 642 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 9: you obsessed with being the best you can be? These 643 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 9: young men, whether it's Fernando or a lot of other 644 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 9: players that were on the field the other night, they 645 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 9: have a great opportunity to do something in their life, 646 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 9: to enhance their family's life, to go impact a community 647 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 9: in a positive way by playing great football and bringing 648 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 9: joy to the fan base. And that's a job you 649 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 9: take very seriously. So all these young prospects, I hope 650 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 9: they go to environments that embrace them completely, that can 651 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 9: help them develop into the best player they can be. 652 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 9: That's how I was, you know, kind of grew up 653 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 9: in the league. I found a great environment. It was 654 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 9: all about football, was about you know, like you mentioned earlier, 655 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 9: about how can you be the best teammate, how can 656 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 9: you work hard, how can you play smart? How can 657 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 9: you play tough? How can you play well under pressure? 658 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 9: How well can you play in tough conditions? And then 659 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 9: ultimately how well can you play in championship games? And 660 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 9: all those things remain to be seen. 661 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom, crush it. You got probably the best football 662 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: game of the year. Say how to KB and the staff. 663 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: You guys have done a remarkable job this year. And 664 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: Sean mcvay's around the corner on zoom, go go, get 665 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: it done. 666 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 5: Come on it. Thanks to appreciate, good to see it, 667 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 5: Good to see you. 668 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: Tom shows up has been for several weeks here in 669 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, man, that is Drake, May and Mendoza 670 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: have a lot in common, Like just like seem like 671 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: a really good come from good stock, good kids, grateful, 672 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: humble at the podium. That stuff matters.