1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty eight, 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: episode four of Dirt Daily. Side guys. It's a production 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: of My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: of course Thursday in March seventeenth two, which means it 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: is Miles, I don't know how to read what you've 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: written down here Street something or rather day, I forget 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: St St Something seen. It's only those Saints days, isn't 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: it Mark seventeen, Oh ship, I should know this right, um, 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Saint Saint Gertrude, Saint Saint St Patty Cap Patty Cake 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: also shout out to my nephew was born on St. 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Patrick's Day. St. That's it there, it is, Yeah, St 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: my nephew was born on St. Patrick's days day. Well, 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't, I don't know. You just 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: know it's happy he was born on St. Patrick's Day day. Anyways, 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Jack Cousteau O'Brien 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: with that get up. According to Mampers eighty four, I 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: guess because I was wearing a orange beanie and the 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: picture we posted yesterday. Yeah, I was also wearing a 20 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: wet suit and had a harpoon gun, so it could 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: have been that as well. No way to know, but 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my co 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: host Mr Miles Gray. Started from the bottom, kind of 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: weird started from the bottom, made this whole nana disappears. 25 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: Started from the bottom. Kind of weird started from the bottom, 26 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: made the whole fruit from the rear. Okay, shout out 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: to Christie. I'm a Gucci man at waffle house who 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: was calling. People were giving us new fruit eating techniques, 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: like feeling the banana from the bottom or what we 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: think is the bottom, or eating an apple from the bottom. 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: You still haven't tried it though. Sometimes people give me 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: a strange idea and I'm like, maybe that one. The 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: idea of eating banana from the bottom didn't even enter 34 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: my brain. I was just like, what about the apple? 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: The apple felt? It just felt. It was like that 36 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: picture of the guy who pretended be Justin Bieber who 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: couldn't eat the burrito, who just eating it. Like to 38 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: see somebody eat an apple like that, I'm like, you're 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: trying to get a rise out of me, right, does that? Sorry? 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Did I say that's what I meant. The apple thing 41 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: didn't even enter my brain. Banana, I've I've eaten bananas 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: all sorts of ways, including as a corn coup. By 43 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: the way, shout out to whoever, whoever the person was 44 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: who was like I look like Bieber, And I know 45 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: that if I go out into public as Biber and 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: eat a burrito as from the middle outward, it will 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: break the internet that that person is a genius. And 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: I hope that one day they used their powers for good. 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: They got us, they got us. We devoted an entire 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: episode of the show during the Trump and the illustration 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: is we just couldn't couldn't figure it out. Our show 52 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: has gotten better, I think, But anyways, Miles, we are 53 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by Podcasting Royalty, a writer, media critic, 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: and the host of one of my favorite podcasts, You're 55 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: Wrong About Her writing has appeared and The Believer on BuzzFeed, 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: and she's just truly one of the best people in 57 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: the world at interrogating the myths and narratives we used 58 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: to define ourselves in the world around us, the stuff 59 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: that we try to do on this show. She's the best. 60 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: Please welcome to brilliant and talented Sarah Marshall. How much 61 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: shouting is on this show. I'm learning so much about 62 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: where to point my head when I'm shouting. There you go. 63 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy 64 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: to be here. And I had no idea that there 65 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: was a fake b or who couldn't eat a barrito. 66 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: I feel like all I do is monitor the Internet, 67 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: and I still miss all the good stuff. I'm so 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: happy to get to learn to flash in the pan. 69 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: Ya just went set dressed up is in biberesque clothing, 70 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: sat on a park bench and started attacking a burrito 71 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: from the middle, and the pazzi were on it. I 72 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: want Werner hurt So to make a documentary about this event. 73 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: It would it would be good. And I truly mean 74 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: what I said, like the level of subtle kind of 75 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: tapped intness to the zeitgeist and the fact that that 76 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: would capture our imaginations. Hats off the way the confused 77 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Canadian eats the burrito in his eyes, I see only Tara. 78 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: How are you doing, Sarah, What's what's new? What's new 79 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: with you? I you'll the the optimism of spring sort 80 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: of approaching, and I was just looking at the weather 81 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: before we started talking and saw that we're now at 82 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, equal amounts of darkness and light, which is 83 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: really exciting. I feel cautiously optimistic, but I guess that's 84 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: my normal mood, which is probably a good way to 85 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: go through life, because you like hope good things will happen, 86 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: and then you find it believable when they do happen. 87 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: But you don't, you know, expect to wake up to 88 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: two things functioning or anything, right, cautious, All right, well, 89 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: we are going to get to know you a little 90 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our 91 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going 92 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: to talk about some Kremlin talking points that are continuing 93 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 1: to cause problems on Fox, and just you know, Fox 94 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: is actually in this in this specific instance, representing kind 95 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: of a major debate happening in the international relations communities, 96 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: but deploying it in a very cynical way that deserves Fox, 97 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: of course. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about 98 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: the fact that workers are maybe open to the metaverse, 99 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: are being like kind of cornered two into being open 100 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,119 Speaker 1: to the metaverse. And yeah, well we'll talk about whether 101 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: that's a good thing or not. I think anything we 102 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: can do to just you know, continue to live into 103 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: in the world that Mark Zuckerberg built for us, I 104 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: think is a good thing. Right. I think we don't 105 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: agree on that. Yeah, it seems like he's got a 106 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: face of a benevolent deity, good head on his shoulders. 107 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: I created my own Buddhist statues with his face on it. 108 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: I changed all kind of like deity statues I had. 109 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: I did a lot of work to make them look 110 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: like Mark Zuckerberg, because he knows the way he does 111 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: the way the path forward. And we're gonna talk about 112 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: KFC going full demolition Man with a with a degu 113 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: station menu, which is a tasting menu but in French 114 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: in a French word that when I say it sounds 115 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: close to disgusting. But I think the French probably have 116 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: a much better handle on the pronunciation of that one. 117 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: But anyways, KFC has a tasting menu. We'll we'll talk 118 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: about it. Um surprisingly okay with it, all of that 119 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: plenty more, But first, Sarah, we do like to ask 120 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: our guests what is something from your search history? I 121 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: feel like generating Google search history is all I do like, 122 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: all I do is distract myself every five seconds, wondering 123 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: about random things. Like this morning, I was like, I 124 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: was lying in bed and I was like, what's Amy 125 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: Joe Johnson doing? Now? You know the Pink Power Ranger 126 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: and Felicity's friend from Felicity And I found out and 127 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: it was really fun. What's j Johnson up to? She? Oh, so, 128 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm so happy. Actually lives in Canada and she is 129 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: directing movies now. And according to her Wikipedia pig, she 130 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: taught some kind of martial arts class in two thousand four. 131 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: I have no idea what that's on her Wikipedia, but 132 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: it is okay. The most recent funny thing from my history, 133 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: I think is Ratzenburger Star Wars, because for some reason, 134 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: I was reading, Oh, here's what happened. I was reading, 135 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to tell you about a little 136 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: journey I want. On this morning, I was like, apparently 137 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with how old everyone is. So I was like, 138 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: how old is Carla Lali Music? And then when I 139 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: found out how old she was, I learned that her 140 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: father in law was Lorenzo Music, the voice of Garfield, 141 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: and that Garfield is now voiced by someone whose name 142 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I forget, but who's an incredibly prolific voice actor, and 143 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: that he's the third highest grossing performer actor in movies. 144 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, who is the highest grossing actor 145 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: in movies? And I forget who that is too, but 146 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: one of the top end of John Ratzenberger, who played 147 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: of Claven on Cheers. You're really getting insight into, like 148 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: the steel trapped my brain and I was, so, I 149 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: was like, why is John Ratzenburger. Yeah, well, he's in 150 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: every Pixar movie, right, Yeah, which I didn't know, and 151 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: so I found out that he was in or every 152 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: Pixar movie until but yes, every Pixar movie for like 153 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: twenty two years or whatever it was. So he's in 154 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: the top ten. And then I read on his Wikipedia 155 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: pig that he was in The Empire Strikes Back, and 156 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: I was like, no, he was not. And then I 157 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: liked it up and you can see a picture of 158 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: John Ratzenburger on the base on the ice planet has 159 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: and the Empire strikes Back, and I was just so 160 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: thrilled to learn that. And that's my little That's what 161 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: happens when you like given to your unnecessary impulses to 162 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: look up random people for no reason when he should 163 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: be getting up and starting your day, right, because I 164 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: think the highest is still sam Jackson, isn't it? Yeah? 165 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: That is that is correct according to the list that 166 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at, which name's earned that feels meritocratic because 167 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: like the second he did those Star Wars prequels, it 168 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: took him to the next level and then he added 169 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: the mcuth stuff. And I think, but I think the 170 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: like other like Robert Downey's like really close to I 171 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: think now it's rise of the m c U performers 172 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: being on that list. Yeah, I'm I'm looking at it. 173 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: We we got to read it down for the listeners 174 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: so that they're got crashing their car googling this themselves. 175 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: We got Samuel L. Jackson number one, with like five 176 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: point six Bill, Robert Downey Jr. Five point four Bill 177 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks that that feels merrit to cratic, as Sarah 178 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: put it. Scarlett Johansson feels you know, I mean, these 179 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: are all people who like they pick movies, well, you know, 180 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: they like with the possible exception of Robert Downey Jr. 181 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: Who who might be like, you know, he had he 182 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: had his hits and missus, but like Samuel Jackson and 183 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks and Scarlett Joe Hanson, like they just nail 184 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: it time after time. Bradley Cooper is a surprise for 185 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: me coming in at number five, and I think that's 186 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: more impressive because he's not in a Star Wars or 187 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: m c Yeah, that's what Like all these other ones, 188 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, like something pops into my head, 189 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: like Bradley Cooper and Tom Hanks and Samuel Jackson, even 190 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: though I guess he got the boost from them, Okay, 191 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: justin saying Bradley Cooper is he's Rocket Rack, He's the voice. 192 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: That's why off. So so basically everybody has the m 193 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: c U. I guess Tom Cruise and Harrison Ford, Tom 194 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: Hanks and Tom Hanks are non m c U people 195 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: on this list. But you know what, there's there's some 196 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: Ratzenberger Erasher because nowhere to be seen on the on 197 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: the list that I'm looking at Daddy for maybe voice 198 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: and also non voice actors. Yeah, so it depends on 199 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: which list. So Cooper, if Cooper is doing it without 200 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: without Rocket Raccoon, because that is just a voice performance 201 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: as far as I know, unless they fit him into 202 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: like a really tiny raccoon. I mean, he's got he's 203 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: got a little facial mo cap stuff going on. Okay, okay, 204 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: so they do do a moe cap for him. That's incredible. 205 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: I love the idea of Bradley Cooper trying to emulate 206 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: a little raccoon. That's like, what a performer. Yeah, all right, well, Sarah, 207 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? I think that 208 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: cash shows have coasted as a snack nut. I have 209 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: come to conclude because I was eating a mixture of 210 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: peanuts and cashews the other day and I found myself 211 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: really favoring the peanuts, and that got me to thinking 212 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: about the fact that cash shows are more expensive, more 213 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: difficult to harvest. I think, like the labor involved in 214 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: making cashews is a lot more intense. I don't think 215 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: we were they grow them domestically, and so now I 216 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: have a conspiracy theory that cashews aren't better than peanuts. 217 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: They're just more difficult to obtain, right, Like we're like 218 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: at the will of the old like nut prices of 219 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, where they're like cash shows are like gold, 220 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: and we're still like, I don't know, the taste isn't 221 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: that great compared to a peanut, because like cashews have 222 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: a flavor, but they don't have that peanut bite. I'm 223 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm cash you gang. I love I love cashows, despite 224 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: the fact that they when you look at them and 225 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: how they're grown, they do look like the poop of 226 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: another fruit, just like little curly things that hang out 227 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: at the bottom of what looks like a pepper, like 228 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: a yellow bell pepper. And I still I still love 229 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: them because they're soft. They're they're softer, so like they 230 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: don't get that little easy on the teeth, easy on 231 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: the teeth and easy on the like I don't get 232 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: the little child like almonds. I feel like I'm eating 233 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: little piece of wood and the wood pellets like get 234 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: get my throat and then I'm having coughing fits like 235 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, Like forty five minutes later, I'm just like, 236 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: all right, well, this conversation is ruined. I'll be over 237 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: here coughing like you've poisoned me for for the next 238 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes instead of having a conversation. But but cashews 239 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: don't don't really funk with me like that because they're 240 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: just I don't know, I think they start very soft 241 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: and even after they're roasted. They they're they're soft and 242 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: easy to get down. I swallow? That is that not correct? 243 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: Kind of winning me over? I should try doing that, 244 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, the softness of the nut, I hadn't thought 245 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: of that. You're right, because like most nuts situations, you're like, 246 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: I am working to obtain these calories and cashews just 247 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: like want to get inside of you. That is a 248 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: good quality. What is the flavor thing? Not a knock 249 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: against it. It's pretty blame m hm. You know what 250 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: I like the flavor. It's like salty and kind of 251 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: creamy to me, right, No, I mean I get I 252 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: I funk with all the textures if it's probably rich 253 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: in oils, that's why it's very easy on the teeth. 254 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know, like the flavor of a cash 255 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: you treat isn't as appealing to me as a flavor 256 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: of like a peanut treat. Just going off of that alone, 257 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying, and that's all I have to say. 258 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: And there's no need to escalate this discreament any further. 259 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're going peanuts first, cash shoes like that. 260 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: In terms of overrated underrated, like how many candy bars 261 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: are there that have cash who is as an ingredient 262 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: like zero, right, yeah, we have no basis for comparison. 263 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: We're flying back. I don't know, that's what I'm saying. 264 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: And maybe maybe that's where I'm being, you know, robbed 265 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: as a consumer of not being able to have those 266 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: cashew choices uh in my in my candy bars. But 267 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with these fucking peanut ones because I fucking 268 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: love to fun out. Yeah no, I yeah, I'm happy 269 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: with the place that peanuts as the predominant, Like peanut 270 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: butter is one of my you know, probably takes up 271 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: about thirty percent of the calories I can simple type. 272 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, it's not good. Actually it's very 273 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: very bad. I think I think I paused yesterday's recording 274 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: of TDZ to take a big bite of peanut butter 275 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: toast Miles. Miles called it out and was like, that's 276 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: the worst possible thing you could be taking a massive 277 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: bite of, like right as we're introducing mouth glue while 278 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: you record your podcast and just intentionally wading into the 279 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: waters of that erin Burr Michael Bay commercial commercial was incredible, 280 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: Like I really love how many people absolutely remember it, 281 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: like they like no trouble at all. You say Aaron 282 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: Burr and they're like, oh yeah, still the best thing 283 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: Michael Bay has ever directed. I didn't watch Hamilton's because 284 00:16:50,920 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: of that commercial is complete. Yeah, I'm like really to learn, right, 285 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: I was like I already learned the parable of the 286 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: man in the body cast who was trying to was 287 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: that kind of body I don't know, I don't think 288 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, Oh he's a an Aaron Burr museum. Yeah, 289 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: it was a different guy. And we're like the fighting 290 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: like muskets like in a box. Next there was some 291 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: other like artifact. Next, Yeah, he had all the all 292 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: the artifacts there. The the Body Cast is a different 293 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: Got Milk commercial. Yeah, Sarah, what is something you think 294 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: is underrated? This is such a beautiful segue because actually 295 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to plug chocolate milk and it's I'm happy 296 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: that we have sort of wandered over to the milk 297 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: campaigns of the nineties because when I was a kid, 298 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: I actually owned a book of the Milk Ads where 299 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: they had the celebrities with milk mustaches, which was a 300 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: different campaign from the Got Milk ad, which is like, 301 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: I can't I don't know. There's something very nineties about 302 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: growing up with like two different and equally prominent milk campaigns. 303 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: Maybe I should do a podcast about that. But so 304 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: I'm not a milk booster by any means, but I 305 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: think chocolate milk is like an incredibly decadent, delicious, perfect dessert, snack, whatever, 306 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of adults are sleeping 307 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: on it because we just remember we think of it 308 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: as a food of childhood. Maybe and we haven't. We 309 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: it's not integrated into our lives. But like, I think 310 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: if you would never had chocolate milk in your life 311 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: and you had some today, you would be like, what 312 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: is this brand new, incredible product that I is going 313 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: to be the new trend food. I think it's I 314 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: think that we've been sleeping on chocolate milk as adults. Yeah, 315 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: there's a shame, you know that we're too mature. Our 316 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: palates have gone beyond the chocolate milk. And I just 317 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: started drinking mochas in the morning. Like when I walk 318 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: by this coffee shop, I'm like, you know what I want, 319 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: hot chocolate with a little bit of coffee in it. 320 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not upset about that. That's what I need. 321 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: And the chocolate toatally that oat milk has brought me 322 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: back into drinking chocolate stuff again, because like, as if 323 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: it's so funny you bring up like the like I'm 324 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: like sort of self awareness around being an adult buying 325 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: chocolate milk. But in my mind of like, there's a 326 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: new oatly thing that's out there. It's oat milk and 327 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: it's chocolate, so might as well try that in the world. Yeah, 328 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: I have babies milk. Um. What were the nineties chocolate 329 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: milk campaigns? Like they were they just like they got 330 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: milk campaigns, but just with a chocolate milk mustache. I mean, 331 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: I want to say that they did at least one 332 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: of those where they had somebody drinking milk with And 333 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: I could be totally making that up because this is 334 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: how memory works. It seems like something that would have happened. 335 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I could have seen that. I don't know, 336 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: but I'm curious about what all that was about. You 337 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: said you had a whole book of tradition, So I 338 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 1: had a book of no just right, remember as they 339 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: were like the normal campaigne and the other normal milk candle? Yes, 340 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: did you know the human head whiz? That's what campaign 341 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: do you remember the actual mustaches though from those ads 342 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: it was not milk at all, and I was that 343 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: always bugged me as a kid looking at those ads 344 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 1: and like whatever they're drinking is so fucking thick because 345 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: it looks like white out on their mouth, and I'm 346 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: like this, there's just a I don't know that. It 347 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: felt like, yeah, it's impossible for me to get behind. 348 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: I mean it talked about that. I think they were like, 349 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: it's part ice cream and maybe that it was like, yeah, 350 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: I want to say ice cream was involved, but I mean, yeah, 351 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: what a It's always funny to me when there's some 352 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: kind of national campaign for just a food that doesn't 353 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: have a brand behind it, Like I feel like we 354 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: also got a lot of ads for eggs as a concept. Yeah, eggs, 355 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: they're they're pretty good, right, all those remember when it 356 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: was like beef, you know, like, oh my god, the 357 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: other white meat, the other white Oh my god. Yeah, 358 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: it's very depressing to me, Like how how much I 359 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: loved these commercials when I was like eleven And I 360 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: remember a friend when we were like ten, we like 361 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: found the phrase no, we're calling something the other white 362 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: meat that we thought was very funny. And be just 363 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: how yeah, this thing where like like I fondly remember 364 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: all of these very sort of weird, high powered, you know, 365 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: probably quite cynical ad campaigns from my childhood, and it's 366 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: like that's the culture that you end up with. Kind 367 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: of a bummer at the same time, Like I I've 368 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: talked a lot about you know, big dairy being like 369 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: the original power industry in America that like you know, 370 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: caused a lot of it's caused a lot of people 371 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: to die earlier, and then they probably should have. The 372 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: only time that American obesity and heart disease deaths like 373 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: dropped like to a normal global average was during World 374 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: War Two when there were dairy rations, and then the 375 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: second they stopped rationing the dairy it went popped back up. 376 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: Same time, Like if we're comparing that too, you know, 377 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: the foods that we are advertised today on a on 378 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: a regular basis, and like the state of the human 379 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: body today versus like the nineteen fifties, sixties, seventies, like 380 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: it's it's probably okay by comparison, I would say, hmm, 381 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: I was really thinking you were going to talk about 382 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: raw milk deaths because my favorite fact about Nixon, which 383 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: at this point is old enough in my brain that 384 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm getting something a little wrong because that's 385 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: how it goes. But is that I believe that when 386 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: he was a child he had a sibling who died 387 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: after consuming raw milk. That was, you know, was something 388 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: wrong with it, as can happen, and that's and that 389 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: like influenced his desire to regulate the milk industry and 390 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: industries generally, which is like, you know, yeah, one of 391 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: those moments where you're like, Nixon mostly a monster but 392 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: had some some ideas. That was a weird campaign, the 393 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: Nixon mostly a monster, but yeah, that had some weird 394 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: ideas with nixing masks on and yeah, mixing. He's been 395 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: through a personal trauma directly connected to the topic Nixon. 396 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: It will get worse. There are chocolate milk ads. I 397 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: forgot about these. They they've been out for a couple 398 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: of years where it's like athletes saying that the yeah 399 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: they refuel with chocolate milk. There's Al Morford the basketball 400 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: players like I'm built with chocolate milk. There's one Carmelo 401 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: Anthony's like when I gave ten percent in a game, 402 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: I got to finish it with chocolate milk. Another one 403 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: with Clay Thompson's official recovery drink of Kevin Love. It's interesting. 404 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: It's like I've always thought that's a very specific tier 405 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: of athletes, like they're sub gatrid, but like you know, 406 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: they're like, like it's not Steph Curry, it's Clay Thompson. Yeah, 407 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: it's not Lebron James, it's Al Horford James. It's Kevin Love. 408 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: It's not Lebron James. It's not even Kyrie Irving. It's 409 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: Ken Love. Ke being like, hey man, that's how I 410 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: was built. But I get it, you know. Maybe it's 411 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: it almost reminds me like that meme of like when 412 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: you grow up with like athletes, it's like who just 413 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: don't put anything into themselves, but are somehow like at 414 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: their peak levels, you know what I mean. Like they're 415 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: like I don't have a trainer, Like I don't eat right, 416 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of gifted. That's almost like what these 417 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: ads make me feel like. It's like I don't know, dude, 418 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: I drink chocolate milk. Yeah, an NBA, So I check 419 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: it out. My body is sickly a miracle. Science should 420 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: study it. But do you could try drinking chocolate milk. 421 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: See how that works for you. Not as well as 422 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: it works for me. You'll probably guess to get it 423 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: now whatever. But I know, like I have a my 424 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: brother in law is actually a really great like long 425 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: distance runner, and he's been known to like slam a 426 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: thing of chocolate milk after he does a long, a 427 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: long training run. So I think there's something. Yeah, it's 428 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: like it's good stuff in it. Hey, and this ad 429 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: is Clay Thompson with the basketball. Is it's the ideal 430 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: three pointer. Nutrients to refuel, natural protein to rebuild, backed 431 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: by science. Yeah, there is that. There's nutrients and protein technically, 432 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: but don't talk about the sugar, right, That's all good, No, 433 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: it's irrelevant. Alright, let's take a quick break and we'll 434 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: come back and talk about Fox News the Kremlin, the 435 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: whole confusing slash not that confusing situation in Ukraine. And 436 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: we're back, and so Fox News that they're having some 437 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: disagreements about how who's to blame for the situation Ukraine. 438 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty pretty straightforward. I think I think 439 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: I think we got a guy, we got a good candidate. 440 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: We gotta suspect that there's a lot of nuance to 441 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: if you choose to look at it for the right 442 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: reasons in good faith, or you could here a couple 443 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: of talking points and then weaponize them because Fox News 444 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: um and I think for most people who don't watch 445 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: Fox News or who aren't like, you know, the gracist brained, 446 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: they will watch the show, and that you can kind 447 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: of watch how the pundits sort of like everything. A 448 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: lot of the punditry feels like a stream of consciousness freestyle, 449 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: like where you just have to connect certain like phrases 450 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: like losing our freedoms, woke agenda and Biden is destroying 451 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: this republic, and then you've got like a take somehow 452 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: like ready made for any show on Fox. But if 453 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: you aren't careful repeating the hot takes you're here around 454 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: the office, I think may cause you a bit of 455 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: on air tension, specifically on Fox and Friends, because Brian 456 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: kill Meade and Rachel Campbell's Duffy had a bit of 457 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: a you know, a disagreement over just sort of their 458 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: geopolitical takes as it relates to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. 459 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: Brian kill meat if you forget on Fox and Friends, 460 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: whose past hits include things like the burning of the 461 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: Fox News Christmas Tree is an attack on Christian America, 462 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: or we need to reopen New York City in May 463 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: of He's not the brightest star on Fox, but this 464 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: week he was given a nice chance to be the 465 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: smart guy when Rachel Campbell's duffy you know, decided to 466 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: give her take on what is happening in Ukraine and 467 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: who's at fault here? So will not be part of NATO. 468 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what you can never give into 469 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: what Russia wants other nations to do. You you decide 470 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: they're going to deciety, going to NATO, going into the 471 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: European Union, when they're there at European society that wants that, well, 472 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: we have a we have a Monroe doctrine, and I 473 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: think we would be very concerned about this kind of 474 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: action in our hemisphere. I think he said keep it 475 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: neutral and in the end, probably Ukraine is going to 476 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: lose more land because of this. Again, the main problem here, 477 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: as you see, and as we discussed, well no, actually 478 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: the main problem is still China. And now we've created 479 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: a bigger block China and Russia together. This is why 480 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: our policymakers aren't thinking long term provoking this. This war 481 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: has brought our two enemies culture together. Well, they had 482 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: a red line and we had an agreement in November 483 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: with the other countries. Rachel, it's not up to them 484 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: to make away. This is this is the fate of 485 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: the geography of Ukraine, and they could have remained a 486 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: free country. We could have armed them, We could have 487 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: actually understand. Russia got their way. They lost their stooge 488 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: in an election minute, They lost their stuge in election 489 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: and had nothing to do with us. They took Crimea 490 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: and the two dom Bas regions. So he goes on 491 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: to state facts about certain things that have occurred. But 492 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, Rachel Campos Duffy, who obviously isn't just a 493 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: former cast member of the San Francisco Real World cast. 494 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: That's why I did not realize she was a Rael 495 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: talking heads Rachel Okay, the season with Puck San Francisco 496 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: and Pedro Okay, iconic season on Real World, that's wonderful, 497 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: ascended to these the seas and I feel like, yeah, 498 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: that's that was like the first season when I feel 499 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: like they really started getting real and stopped, you know, 500 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: whatever the fucking timeline is. Yeah, but that is that 501 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: is such an iconic season, that's wild. Okay, So this 502 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: is this is actually the debate I'm seeing a lot 503 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: of people have, Like so that somebody had brought to 504 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: my attention the work of um this international relations professor 505 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: John Meerscheimer, and he's in the he's in the realist camp, 506 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: of which they just they were smart when naming themselves, 507 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: I guess. But this is the version of international relations 508 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: where like great powers will inevitably fight, you know, will 509 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: inevitably test each other. And you know, back in two 510 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: thousand eight, this dude was like, we are fucking up 511 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: by pushing a NATO agenda like in Ukraine because that's 512 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: going to piss off Russia, and we want Russia as 513 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: an ally because China is the real threat. So that's 514 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: I think the talking points that are coming where where 515 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: her talking points are coming from? Like the the realist point, 516 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: Like this is something I even like took a class 517 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: on in college. And like the problem with the realist 518 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: model of international relations is it's deterministic. It's like this 519 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: is inevitably how people behave. So like the key brings 520 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: up the Monroe doctrine a lot as well, and basically says, 521 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: look how the United States reacted when there were right 522 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: Russia missiles in Cuba. They almost the the US almost 523 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: ended the world. And so by trying to invite Ukraine 524 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: into NATO, that is like the equivalent of that, and therefore, 525 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: like they should never do that because this is just 526 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: how the world works. And that That's always been my 527 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: issue with the realist point of view is that it 528 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: treats things as like fixed and inevitable and like, this 529 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: is just how the world works, and you can't criticize 530 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: it because this is just you know, Putin is just 531 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: doing what a great power politician does, and there's no 532 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: like normative judgment on it. It's just like, yeah, that's 533 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: just how it works, and we need to befriend Putin 534 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: and so that we have a stronger, you know, stance 535 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: when it becomes the US versus China. So my issue, 536 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: like I have agreed with some of the things I've said, 537 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: like that the U. S should have been better at 538 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: diplomacy when it came to conversations around NATO and Ukraine 539 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: and when it came to things like Obama calling Russia 540 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: like a regional power or you know, whatever you call them, 541 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: Like those weren't great diplomatic moves, but like, does that 542 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: mean that it's the United States fault for Putin like 543 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: bombing maternity wards funck No, like into like that's the 544 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: problem that deterministic thinking gets you into, is that you're 545 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: just like there's no right or wrong. It's just like 546 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: this is just the way it is, folks. Sorry, I'm 547 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure Rachel Campbell's read Damersheimer New Yorker interview, Yeah, 548 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: and found something that worked because you know, you have 549 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: to go on Fox and you gotta do something that 550 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: will at least hit Biden, you know, and this does 551 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: given like somewhat of an intellectual argument as to the 552 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: missteps that occurred, you know, historically to bring you know, 553 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: to bring the situation to this point. But I think 554 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: that's where I was saying earlier, is like she's using 555 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: this to just use it for the spin on Fox 556 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: to be like yeah, and we got her Monroe doctrine, 557 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: like right, yeah, the Monroe doctrine by her, and this 558 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: standard is it's like meer Scheimer says, it's an inevitability. 559 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: Like they obviously like celebrate it and think it's like 560 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: a you know, a religion to be celebrated. I would 561 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: hope most people think it's a problem to be solved. Well, 562 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: what that's And And even in that interview in the 563 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: New Yorker, right, the journalist I don't want to get 564 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: their name, Isaac cotton Er is who's interviewing him, saying, well, like, 565 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, but the Monroe Doctrine in a way is 566 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: sort of saying that the US determines what any sovereign 567 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: nations foreign policy is. So isn't that problematic? It's like, yeah, 568 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: but we've been doing that forever. Yeah, but we shouldn't. 569 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: That's the Yeah, that's always like, that's like that entire 570 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: interview is like, well what about this? Like yeah, but 571 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: that's just how it is. And it's like, but that's 572 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: fucked up and bad, and so how do we get better? 573 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: And I get I guess for him, the realist part 574 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: is saying, how could you ever think for a moment 575 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: that these entrenched superpowers are first second gonna like have 576 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: redefined what a nation state is or whatever so everybody 577 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: can get along? Yeah, why does this feel? Like excerpts 578 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: from family Therapy? You just treat things like they're always 579 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: going to be that way, Dad, I'm trying to change 580 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: the paradigm. Not everything is black and white. Oh isn't 581 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: it either is or it isn't right now? It is it? 582 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: Like what better opportunity to criticize your own nations like 583 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: way of doing things. Then when everybod he is getting 584 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: to see what it looks like when a nation acts 585 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: the way that your nation does, you know, like that 586 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: it's not a time to like dig in and be like, well, 587 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: see this is how it is, and we should have 588 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: been nicer to them so that like they wouldn't bomb 589 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: these maternity wards and like that. Yeah, it's a it's 590 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: a I think really the realist camp is a good 591 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: way of describing how things have operated for a long 592 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: span of history. I don't think it's a good way 593 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: of like operating and like thinking the world should operate. 594 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: It's a right and analytical lens to look through, not 595 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: a philosophy to move into the society to the future. 596 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, because you could look and like you 597 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: would be like Meerscheren be like, well we've been overthrowing government. 598 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: That's bad, right, I don't know, but yeah, it is. 599 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: It's it's just interesting to watch that tension spill over 600 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: on Fox too, because I think the other thing that 601 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: Meerscheimer was arguing against, it's like it's too convenient for 602 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: the West, and Western media just say yes, it's all 603 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: just Vladimir Putin Bran completely extracting themselves from the diplomatic 604 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: missteps that may have like in his worldview being like 605 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: you can't poke up breaking a monster with a stick 606 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: and then expect nothing to happen. That's just how That's 607 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: just not how any of this stuff works. But even 608 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,959 Speaker 1: then you're just seeing like this kind of these world 609 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: views trying to reconcile with each other on Fox News 610 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: of all places. M hmmm, sir as like one of 611 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: the smartest people I listened to, Like do you I 612 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of the stuff you guys have 613 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: covered on your show is like a little bit further 614 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,479 Speaker 1: in the you know, rear view than like an war 615 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: that is happening on a day to day basis. But 616 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: like I'm just curious to hear, like, how do you 617 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: follow a story like what what's happening in you? Kram 618 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: m M. I'm doing follow a story like that? Do 619 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: you have the emotional bandwidth? Unfortunately, the way that I 620 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: can say news in the last couple of years is 621 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: mostly from my friends telling me what's happening, and then 622 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: that's how I know what's happening, because that's all we 623 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: ever talked about anymore. I feel like there was a 624 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: time when you could I don't know. I'm sure there 625 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: are people who still live like this. It's strange to contemplate, 626 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: but when you would just sort of like talk with 627 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: friends and like current events wouldn't come up even once 628 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: during a single day, And now it feels like that's 629 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: just all we talk about, and so I feel like 630 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: my filter, it's like my burnout is being accommodated by 631 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: the fact that people are constantly bringing me headlines to discuss. 632 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think it's I guess like 633 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: it's both. It makes it both more and less underwhelming 634 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: to engage with you know that what we're talking about 635 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: today and be like, well this is this feels like 636 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: the debate that we have been having forever about you know, 637 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: what is human nature and this idea of like, well, 638 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: here's a way humans behave selfishly. It's what we're destined 639 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: to do. And if you try to to live differently 640 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: or to believe in something, some other reality than you're 641 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: a sucker, And I do think that's I guess it's 642 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: like I follow stories by breaking them down to the 643 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: ingredients in that way, right you get No, I'm not 644 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: gonna I could launch into a whole thing about why 645 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: my belief in UFOs makes me feel good about doubting 646 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: the realist point of view, and I will not do that. 647 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: Do you really want to hear that? Man? Does this 648 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: like connect to the sort of the themes of Arrival, 649 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: which is that an aliens might just sort of lovingly 650 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: pity us. I think that might be it, Like yeah, 651 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: basically so, I don't know, Like I feel like we've 652 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: seen a lot of ship that makes it that suggests 653 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: that there is something that is much more technologically advanced 654 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: than us that is present around us and is not 655 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: like the military is aware of it and they don't 656 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: want us to know about it. I think because the 657 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: way that that alien technology behaves is so contrary to this, 658 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: Like this, this sort of realist perspective on the world 659 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: is what the entire Pentagon, the entire US economy, because 660 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: it's so propped up by the military industrial complex, like 661 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: that it's all based on this idea that like you 662 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: have to be ready because someone's gonna come funk with 663 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: you if they get just the slightest edge. And then 664 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: these like these technologies that are like so far and 665 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: above and like beyond what we like even our theoretical 666 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: understanding of physics, like are coming through and just being 667 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: like we're just gonna like check out your nuclear weapons 668 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: plans to make sure you guys can't kill yourselves like 669 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: all at the same time, and then we're gonna dip. 670 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: It's like no, they like obviously, it's not a thing 671 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: that like the more or advanced you get, the more 672 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: you're just gonna like funk everyone over. And I'm granted 673 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: that seems to be like other than a handful of 674 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: movies like Rival, like that is the model that we 675 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: get from our movies about aliens, but like it, like 676 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: I actually believe that is the reason that the military 677 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: is so intent on covering up the like contact and 678 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: like you know, all of these instances of like encounters 679 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: with technology that's like beyond our understanding. Is that those 680 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: technologies exist, like apparently exists and aren't being used to 681 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: just like murder us all and like that kind of 682 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: sucks up their whole model and sucks up the whole 683 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: like realist model too. This is my kind of conspiracy theory, 684 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: I gotta say. And yeah, I feel I mean this 685 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: connects with one of my core beliefs, which is that 686 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: like the myth of the brilliant serial killer, like the mastermind, 687 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, murderer whatever. This idea that like murdering people 688 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: connects them how to intelligence, which I think is like 689 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: an unstated idea that we have. I think is it 690 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: makes no sense to me because it's like people who 691 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: are well adjusted and like doing well and at their 692 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: peak don't murder people like they just don't. Not to 693 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: sound like l Woods, but I feel like we have 694 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: this sort of hannibal electric paradigm of like what if 695 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: there was someone who is smarter than everyone else and 696 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: really had their ship together and like shows with a 697 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: free will to be a serial killer? And it's like, 698 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I don't think that sanity 699 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: really aligns with the need to kill people over and over. 700 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: That's my take. Have you guys done damer On your 701 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: wrong about we did, but a long time ago that 702 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: was one of the first ones. Yeah, that is a 703 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: really good example of this, Yeah, because I feel like, 704 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: you know, Dahmer happened after Sounds of the Lambs. It was, 705 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: but it was like right at the same time, and 706 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: like the zeitgeist was hungry for a like you know, 707 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: part of the pundle, Like the zeitgeist was hungry for 708 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: a cannibal, and they the serial killer was discovered who 709 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: had body parts in his apartment, and the police like 710 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: sort of got him to be like, yeah, I tried 711 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: one like once, and they were like cannibal there, and 712 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for knowing that, like he wasn't 713 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: eating human flash as a main diet and that he 714 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: had body parts just to have because like nobody knows that, 715 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: and I realized it might seem like a fine distinction, 716 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: but like it's weird, right, Like why would you need 717 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: to grade inflate your headlines if you already have reality? Right? 718 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: But he was he was like a blackout drunk who 719 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 1: had like was just like bad at cleaning up after 720 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: his murders and just like had the bodies all over 721 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: the house because he was like a like exactly what 722 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about. He was a broken, destroyed human being 723 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: who I think I really like wouldn't be surprised if 724 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: the idea that he even tried to like tried one 725 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: of the body parts was like kind of pressured into 726 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: him by the police and he or just by his 727 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: like realization that wow, people really respond when responded when 728 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: I I said that, so, like I'm going to go 729 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: with that right after someonce the lambs came out. But 730 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 1: a really good question. I mean also and well, yeah, 731 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: and speaking of people who have a detection, you know, 732 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: it's like it's it. I don't think it's ever because 733 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: of superior intelligence, And in Dahmer's case, it was because 734 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: his victims were mainly people of color. He lived in 735 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: a low income neighborhood and primarily a black neighborhood, and 736 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: his neighbors complained about the fact that they seem to 737 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: be living next to a serial killer. And he had 738 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: victims escape and the police returned one of them to him, 739 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, like you don't have you don't 740 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: need a brilliant and like, causing harm isn't a sign 741 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: of having your life together, and the ability to cause 742 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: continued harm to the people around you also doesn't mean 743 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: that you're smart. It means that the authorities don't care 744 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: about the people you're hurting, right, Yeah, exactly. All right, 745 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and 746 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: talk about Cassie. And we're back, and so are we 747 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: fans in in this in this group of Demolition Man? 748 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: What what? What are our thoughts on on the film 749 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: Demolition Man? Oh? Very pro love it. I mean yeah, 750 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a work of art. It was 751 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: made by a like an artist who right like he 752 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: was a Marco Brambilla who who had not really made 753 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: a movie. They were like, what if we gave this 754 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: wild ass script to an artist and like saw what 755 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: they did with it, and then they were like, I 756 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: don't like making movies. This sucks and didn't really make 757 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: anything else. He had such a vision that he was 758 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: trying to apply and like the students like what He's like, dude, 759 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: I'm an artist. What if this was in? And they're 760 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: like no, And yeah, completely soured him on it. And 761 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: now you'll probably see his work if you go to 762 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: the Standard in New York. He does like amazing. I 763 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: always talk about this guy's art because it's he's an 764 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: amazing visual artist. If you're at the Standard in New York. 765 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: The hotel has like a small miniaturized version of one 766 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: of his art pieces. When you go up or down, 767 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: there's like this like a collage of different film film 768 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: like little he like like rotoscoping out little moments from 769 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: film and shows either like the ascent into Heaven or 770 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: the descent into Hell, depending on which direction you're going in. 771 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: And the damn the elevator. I've been there and did 772 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: not realize that was him, but that and if so, 773 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it makes so much sense. It 774 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: does not given what I know of Demolition Man, because 775 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: Demolisha Man does not have that sort of trippiness to it. 776 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 1: But it is like a fully realized, like artistic vision 777 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: of the future. And in that future, Taco Bell was 778 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: a the only restaurant in existence and be consistent of 779 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: fine dining featuring small portions of food with pretentious presentations. 780 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: Taco Bell had won the what do they call it, 781 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: like the franchise Wars. Franchise Wars. I'm a big fans, Like, 782 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: is it implied that those were actual wars or just 783 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, like hostile take? I don't know, but don't 784 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: we need a prequel? It would be better than that. 785 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: Clone Wars thing like, yeah, let me see, like San Angels, 786 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: like the ten years before John Spartan from Ratzenberger has 787 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: to has to get in there, so the and it 788 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: has to be full full Ratzenburger, not just a voice, 789 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: so they he can take his place on the on 790 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 1: the list of the most successful actors of all time. 791 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, so apparently KFC is going down a similar path, 792 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: at least for the purposes of a marketing stunt that 793 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 1: got us hook Line Singer. They fucking nailed this marketing 794 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: stunt because we are talking about it and there's nothing 795 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: anyone can do to keep us from talking about the 796 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: fact that KFC is going prefix menu, a tasting menu, 797 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: a dig a digu station menu featuring eleven courses, a 798 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: wine pairing and yeah, baby, coust just over fifty dollars. 799 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know what kind of wing I mean, 800 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 1: that's like five dollars. Of course I would do it. Yeah, 801 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: it's like that is a deal. That is so is 802 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: the food KFC. Though the food is KFC. Let me 803 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: let me take you through some of the courses. It's 804 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,959 Speaker 1: like the photographs that they have are what one is 805 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: a single chicken wing being unveiled. Have you ever seen 806 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: like those? Uh, when they do the deconstructive cooking and 807 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: there's like a glass little like shell, yeah, glass dome 808 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: on top of it with like foam or with steam 809 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: in it, and then they like take it off and 810 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: the steam like smoke. You have to get you the 811 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: smoke flavor. They like hit it with smoke for a 812 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: little bit, right, Yeah, so they got that but with 813 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: a KFC chicken wing, a single KFC chicken wing and 814 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: just like some fancy garnishes. So that I'm gonna just 815 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: skip right to the one that really intrigues me because 816 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: this this feels like a genuinely creative idea. There is 817 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:50,760 Speaker 1: a bun that comes with a gravy candle, and as 818 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: this gravy candle melts, you can dip your bun into 819 00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 1: the melted gravy wax. Yes, I'm back. I'm so in 820 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: love that love that so much like candles, a gravy candle. 821 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 1: It's funny, is that I thought that. Do you remember 822 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,479 Speaker 1: the Mario Lopez movie that they did, like the twenty 823 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: minute Lifetime plays No Hot Colonel Colonel? Oh yeah I 824 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 1: did not. I was I was so against that. I 825 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: was like, this is terrible. This is completely against what 826 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: Lifetime is for. I hate this thing where Lifetime and 827 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: KFC are trying to be in on the joke about 828 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: how they're both like things that we consume when we 829 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 1: feel bad about ourselves and that's what they're for. But like, 830 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like such a simp for 831 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: a gimmick. But like I think this sounds amazing. Yeah, 832 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 1: and they've taken some big swings. But in the past, 833 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: they had that log, like the Yule log that smelled 834 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 1: like spices. They had like a weird video game. There's 835 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: there was a lot. They tried a lot, but this one. 836 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,760 Speaker 1: I like, you said, Sarah, I can They said gravy candle, 837 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: And that's all I need to hear. All Right, I 838 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: don't know if we're allowed to say this, super Producer, Becca, 839 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: Are we allowed to talk about the fact that we 840 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: have brought in house one of the KFC marketing geniuses. 841 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: So one of our newest producers, super Producer beccar Ramos. 842 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 1: She came to us from the world of marketing and 843 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 1: worked on the KFC marketing team, and she single handedly 844 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: came up with Mario Lope every single idea every single 845 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: one of those ideas. No, I'm just joking. I don't 846 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: work over co workers. She conceived all that ship man 847 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,760 Speaker 1: Mario Lopez getting a lot of burn on the Daily's 848 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: Like Yesterday's Guests. Sarah was co starred with Mario Lopez 849 00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: and Felice Navy Dad Lifetime Christmas movie. So we Voke, 850 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: we have Voke Lopez his name on the regular heir? 851 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: But is this is this fancy feast? Can we get that? 852 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: And here? Would you go to a restaurant where is this? 853 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: Is this something? Or this is for another country where 854 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: people it's Australia and it's a limited you have to 855 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: like you have to like know the president to get 856 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: to get on the list, the wait list. I don't 857 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: know if that's true, but that's how I imagine things 858 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: work in Australia. Yeah, hey, Ozzie's a gang, please get 859 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: on that way list. Let us know truly work. Do 860 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: you work for Ozzy KFC? Can you hook us up? 861 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: Let I really want to see this cravy candle. The 862 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: gravy candle just needs to become a thing like candles 863 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: that like melt into various things that you can dip 864 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: bred in, like give that to me ten years ago. Yeah, 865 00:51:54,320 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 1: that's so romantic. Yeah yeah kind of. Honestly, I'm so 866 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: into this idea, Like I would go to a concert 867 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 1: where they just lit one on fire and we watch 868 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: them melt. I'm like, yeah, let's bring your own bread. Yeah, 869 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 1: get a little dip. Yeah, come on yea, because it 870 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: kind of solves the main problem with fond which is 871 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: the like bubbling pot that is like just sitting there 872 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: like a bathtub that various people have likely food into this. 873 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 1: Everything is freshly melted, so you you don't feel like 874 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: you're you know that there might be a toenail in 875 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: there or whatever. That's fine to protein um, calcium. But 876 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: the there are actual edible candles because I searched and 877 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: I was like, please tell me, I can just get 878 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: this on my own, and they're just putting me onto 879 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: something that exists right now. I think most edible candles 880 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: are like chocolate for like a birthday cake, so it 881 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: mounts chocolate pond. The cake man. We had trick candles 882 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: by accident from my four year old birthday party, and 883 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 1: like that is that has changed my my children's relationship 884 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 1: to candles in its entirety. Every candle they light, They're like, 885 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:15,280 Speaker 1: it's a candles in the world, no trust. I remember 886 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: like a kid at one time at a like I 887 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: was seven, and someone had tricked candles and everyone was like, 888 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: oh wow, And this one kid was like watch this. 889 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: He just licked his fingers and like snubbed out the 890 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,439 Speaker 1: flame on the wick and he's like that's the only 891 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: way to put him out. We're like, this isn't even 892 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: your fucking birthday, bro, that's out signed smoked a cigarette. Yeah, 893 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 1: the kid who could, who could put the cigarette out 894 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: on his tongue in in middle school, that was that kids. 895 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where his parents were, but 896 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: he uh, he wanted to beat me up pretty bad 897 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: actually now that I think about it, but shout out 898 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: to him. But yeah, there there's something about being like 899 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: the first kid to smoke and being the kid who 900 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: can put a cigarette out on your tongue that I 901 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: feel like there might be some overlap there. So I 902 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 1: feel like I'm a little less excited about the other offerings. 903 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: Besides the gravy candle. There's like one of them, like 904 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned, single chicken wing, but just you know, it 905 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: has a smoky little what's that movie where everybody's under 906 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: the dome, under the glass dome under there's there's one 907 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,399 Speaker 1: that's just three pieces of popcorn chicken, but then they 908 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: like pour something on top of it and like serve 909 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: it with like some curled up spinach leaves. The one 910 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 1: that I feel like I just don't know how to 911 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: feel about is an edible stencil art of Colonel Sanders face, 912 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: which you were supposed to lick lick the likeness of 913 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: Colonel Sanders awful plate. Now, yeah, that's where I'm back, 914 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: But I don't know, but like I want every fast 915 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: food company to do this, Like if McDonald's did this, 916 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: I would be all over it. And like, I don't 917 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: you find it absurd that McDonald's even has ads at 918 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: this point. It's like they're just a constant, aren't they 919 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: recession proof? Like that it's because do people ever did 920 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: not go to McDonald's. But I mean, but they've been 921 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: doing increasingly desperate stuff lately, I think, and like, listen, 922 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: this is a desperate thing that would really pander to 923 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: me directly, and I'm still somewhat relevant from a marketing perspective, 924 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: So do it, you guys? Yeah, the marketing is only 925 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,919 Speaker 1: to get young, young children. I think at this point 926 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: everybody else they're like, yeah, you guys get it. Kids 927 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 1: love tasting menus. They I mean, I think we've proven 928 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: we're all just kids. We just were chocolate milk drinking, 929 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: plate licking, gravy candle loving adultfully. I mean, that is 930 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: like a billion dollar marketing idea. Though that like a week. 931 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 1: It's like restaurant week and you know l a, but 932 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: like a restaurant week for all chain restaurants, where like 933 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: they all offer their own tasting menu of like culinary 934 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,439 Speaker 1: creations Taco Bell using the same five ingredients they used 935 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: for everything else, but like they you know, just new creative. 936 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 1: I feel like that would get people interested. Yeah you should. 937 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: You should. Hey, I'm gonna give you the ultimate compliments, Sarah, 938 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 1: you should work in marketing creative. That was what I 939 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: wanted to do when I was a kid, I loved commercials. 940 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to watch non PBS, so commercials were 941 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: like this beautiful forbidden fruit and that probably never left me. Oh, 942 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 1: that's the same one. My kids. They're the only like 943 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 1: TV they're allowed to watch is like sports when I'm 944 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 1: watching it, and so they just they ignore the ship 945 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: out of the sports, but when the commercials come on, 946 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 1: they just come right up to the TV and sit 947 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: there like they're getting to watch like the yes, TC 948 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: my favorite commercial. But that like that's where I got 949 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: my evidence that like that's what these commercials like, that's 950 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: why McDonald's still advertises, because you know, we've haven't almost 951 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: never eaten at McDonald's in their lives, and they're like, 952 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: I want McDonald's fries, Like, how do you even know 953 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: what the fun McDonald's fries? Oh my god? That is why. 954 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: It's because new people are being created. It's the only 955 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: people who need to see McDonald's adds people who are five. 956 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly there, yeah exactly. Inoculate them, get them to 957 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: understand what yet them. Well, Sarah, truly a pleasure having 958 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: you on the daily Zeykegeist. Where can people find you? 959 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: Follow you here? You all that good stuff? Yeah? Oh, 960 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. I forgot to 961 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: say when you were giving me that wonderful introduction. I 962 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: think there is no podcast royalty. We are all podcast 963 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: fellow workers. It's a beautiful thing. Um, So you can 964 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: find me on You're wrong about which is on Twitter 965 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: at you're wrong about I am tweeting a lot about 966 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 1: Jello history right now. Um at remember Underscore. Sarah and 967 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: I also have a feelings podcasts about movies called You 968 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: Are Good, which has not talked about Demolition Man yet, 969 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's really an oversight. What what's 970 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 1: your what's a good starter episode for people on Your Good? Oh, 971 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: we just released one about Arrival actually with Ryan Ken, 972 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 1: which I think is I don't I just really love 973 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 1: that one. I think it's like, it's it's about a 974 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: great movie, it's a great conversation, it's a wonderful guest 975 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: and just like really gets into, you know, like kind 976 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: of what we were talking about before, this idea of 977 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: like what if there was this tremendous power out there 978 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: in the universe that viewed us with compassion and like 979 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: how would we even figure out what to do with 980 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: that information? And Yeah, it feels like a movie that 981 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: continues to grow more relevant. Yeah. And is there a 982 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've 983 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: been enjoying? Yes, well, so many, but so this is 984 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: a tweet by Aaron Summers. At Summers Aaron who had 985 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: this is actually two tweets. So there was an original 986 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: tweet this morning that says we didn't have five bucks 987 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: to be the tooth fairy last night and reaching some 988 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: new frontier of Parenting's not five dollars of my daughter's 989 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 1: own money in quotes from her stack and put it 990 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 1: under her pillow. And then the follow up tweet to 991 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: that an hour later says people commenting on my tooth 992 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: fairy tweet that five dollars is too much dot dot dot. 993 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: Tooth compensation has been stagnant since the early nineteen nineties. 994 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 1: We believe deeply in fair pay, which, like, I love 995 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: that it's a tooth. It's like it's the first. I 996 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I think if adults lost teeth regularly, like 997 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: not in bar fights, we might be more inclined to 998 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: compensate children better because, like, it is a process. I 999 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: respect this philosophy. Yeah. Yeah, Also, it was five dollars 1000 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 1: of her own money. Come on, she's breaking even. I 1001 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: feel like all the people who are like that's too much, 1002 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: we're like CEOs of like John Deere and fucking Homeboy. Yeah. There, 1003 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: it's their inner capitalist coming up. Can't you can't just 1004 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 1: raise the rates? I only got a dollar they're getting five. No, 1005 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 1: we're not canceling student debt. But also like, but also 1006 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: the move was pretty capitalist, and like I took the 1007 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: home motherfucker's money and gave it back to them, So 1008 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 1: those people shouldn't be too man. Miles, where can people 1009 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me 1010 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also 1011 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know when you know me 1012 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: on four twenty day fans. But you know Jack and 1013 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: I we we have a basketball podcast coming out. I 1014 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 1: think we can say I think we will say that 1015 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 1: out loud if you listen this far, and we'll tease 1016 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 1: that out a little bit more. And we recorded an 1017 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: episode and it's good. I think it's good, a lot 1018 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 1: of fun. It's for the casuals like us, you know, 1019 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: when doing xs and os, for having a good time. 1020 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: So check it out. You'll you'll you'll you'll hear a 1021 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: title soon, you'll see some art coming soon. But I 1022 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: just want to get this ike gearing out there, primed 1023 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 1: and ready. Yes, we are doing a basketball podcast that 1024 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: is not a joke, so hopefully you'll support us. There 1025 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: a tweet I like it from Lauren Latus at Lauren Laptus, 1026 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 1: tweeting instead of I was today years old when I learned. 1027 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Try I just learned, or I'm very stupid, But did 1028 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 1: you know that's great? Alright, a tweet I've been enjoying. 1029 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: I love John Boyce, who is like a I think 1030 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: he's a sports writer. For like one of the blogs 1031 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 1: he makes like fun documentaries. He made one about mm 1032 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,439 Speaker 1: A fighting in a time of loneliness with Felix from 1033 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 1: a chop out trap house. Anyways, he tweeted, most of 1034 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: his tweets are just him being like giving the most 1035 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 1: down in the middle mainstream sports opinion possible, but that 1036 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: this was actually a good point. He said. Collegton baseball 1037 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: cards in the nineties immunized at least some of us 1038 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 1: from n f T s. You spend five dollars at 1039 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: the card shop on a Chuck knob block on base 1040 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 1: leaders card, because that's what Beckett says, then try to 1041 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: trade it and realize, oh ship, no kid in the 1042 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:29,439 Speaker 1: entire neighborhood wants this at all, exactly right. You can 1043 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can 1044 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist We're at the 1045 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page 1046 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 1: and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where we post 1047 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: our episodes. On our footnotes, we link off to the 1048 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: information that we talked about in today's episode as well. 1049 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: It's a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, 1050 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: what song do we think people should go check out? Man? 1051 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I was just I found like an old playlist that 1052 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 1: like I had typed out like an email from when 1053 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: I was just getting out of college, and there were 1054 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: some artists on there that I was like, oh my god, 1055 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 1: I haven't listening to ship in years. And there's this 1056 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 1: one l a band called Moving Units that was like 1057 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 1: kind of one of these they're they're kind of like 1058 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,479 Speaker 1: a post punk band. And I was at the time 1059 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 1: in college not really listening to anything except hip hop. 1060 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 1: And then, like you know, a couple of Pitchfork articles later, 1061 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm listening to Moving Units and there's this one track 1062 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 1: called Anyone that's just kind of got this good. I 1063 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 1: don't know, but I consider this gateway music if you 1064 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 1: only listen to hip hop and need to broaden your horizons. 1065 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: Check out Anyone by Moving Units, because yeah, this is 1066 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: a good track, so check it out. I don't know 1067 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 1: myld lonely unit. I listened to a G unit get 1068 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: out of here with that? Hey, I mean to be honest. 1069 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 1: G unit is in it if you just take out 1070 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 1: the M O V I N and then G unit 1071 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: so they get the moving out of here, moving time 1072 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: for G units. All right? Well, the Daily Zey guys 1073 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: the production by Heart Radio from more podcasts from my 1074 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, 1075 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna 1076 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon 1077 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to you 1078 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: all day. Fight by