1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: The Volume. All right, welcome to him tonight here at 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: the Volume Heavy Monday, everybody. Hope all you guys had 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: a great weekend. We are continuing our player rankings today 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: with number four Jannis on Tennekompa. Then at the tail 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: end of the show, I was driving home from the 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: gym this morning. I'm back to playing regular basketball, which 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: feels fucking amazing. I'm not even gonna try to sugarcoat it. 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: I was listening to Zach Low on a beautiful day 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: in Colorado, looking at the Rockies, just a wonderful morning, 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: and then Zach pitched an idea that I can't get 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: out of my head now, And that's what if Giannis 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: ended up getting traded to the Atlanta Hawks. And obviously 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Jannis is a buck for now and probably a buck 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: for this entire season. But it's more just a basketball 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: concept that I want to die into regarding the fit 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: between Trey Young and Yannis and some of the groundwork 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: that the Hawks have laid in recent years that I 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: think actually makes them a prime candidate to benefit from 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: a trade like that. So we'll talk about that at 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: the tail end of the show. You guys did the 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Joe before we get started. Subscribe to Hoops to Night 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: YouTube channels. You don't miss any more of our videos. 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Follow me on Twitter and underscore json lt so you 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: guys don't miss show announcement. 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All right, let's talk some basketball. 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: We have officially made it to our top tier Superstar Tier, 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: and once again, just like has been the case through 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: each of the previous two tiers, you could literally list 36 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: these in any order, even more so than the last tier. 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: I'd say two through four are you could literally jumble 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: them in any case like I'd argue the case to 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: have Anthony Edwards over a guy like Donovan Mitchell, So 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: from top to bottom of that tier is much stronger 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: than the case to have like a Luca or an 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Sga over Jannis. I think those three guys are very 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: much on the same level. So if you have Yannis 44 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: at two, or Luca at two or Shay at two, 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: if you have any of those guys at four, I 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: would understand. But I have Giannis at four. So let's 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: start with his last season in review. He played sixty 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: seven games, thirty points, twelve rebounds, and seven assists per game, 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: with two point one stocks, sixty percent from the field, 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: twenty two percent from three, sixty two percent from the line. 51 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: That's a sixty one percent effective field goal percentage waited 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: for threes and a sixty three percent true shooting percentage 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: when you add free throws into the mix. Another award 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: heavy season for Jannis, seventh consecutive top five MVP finish, 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: seventh consecutive First Team All NBA selection, ninth consecutive All 56 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: Star selection, and his seventh consecutive year finishing in the 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: top ten and Defensive Player of the Year voting. Now, 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: before we get into like where Jannis is at as 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: a basketball player right now, I want to start with 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: why I have Giannis ranked fourth, And again we're splitting 61 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: hairs here. I do not perceive much of a gap 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: between him and Luca and SGA. But my case for 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: putting Yannis at fourth centers around the idea that Shay 64 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: and Luca are both better offensive players than Jannis. And 65 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: as you guys know, even though I do factor in 66 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: the defensive end of the floor, to me, it's not 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: like a fifty to fifty weight. I think it is 68 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: much easier to build an elite defense around an elite 69 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: offensive player than it is to build an elite offense 70 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: around an elite defensive player. I should I should say 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: it's easier to to fabricate a defense that works around 72 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: an elite offensive player than it is to take an 73 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: elite defense and get them a bunch of great shots. 74 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: And so with that being the case, obviously Janis is 75 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: a great offensive player too. We're going to discuss that 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: in detail. But for me, the case for Giannis when 77 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: he was considered the best player in the world in 78 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, it centered around like an overwhelming physical dominance. 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: Right his case, he was a defensive Player of the 80 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: Year candidate, you finished second one year and first the 81 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: following year. He obviously is a dominant rebounder, just his overall, 82 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, like like energizer bunny athleticism, right. But Jannis, 83 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: while he's made some slight improvements on offense, which we're 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: going to discuss, he's actually regressed quite a bit as 85 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: a physical force in the league relative to where he 86 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: was at his absolute peak. And here's a couple of 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 1: statistical examples. First, his durability. Last year, for the fifth 88 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: time in the last six years, Giannis failed to play 89 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: seventy games, and that's after he successfully played seventy games 90 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: in each of his first six seasons. He's also missed 91 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: playoff games due to injury eight of Milwaukee's last sixteen 92 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: playoff games. Giannis was a DNP over the last three seasons. 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: To his credit, when he's been available, he's consistently produced 94 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: at that top tier superstar level. But that's including this 95 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: year's playoff run where he was incredible. But the dependability 96 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: in the overall, just like two way dominance, is just 97 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: not quite what it once was. It's also showing up 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: in some basic statistical areas. He's cutting corners on defense 99 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: more than he used to. He used to be a 100 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: two and a half to three stocks per game kind 101 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: of guy. Now he's like a two stocks per game 102 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: kind of guy. Not too shocking. He's in his thirties now, 103 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: He's got to conserve his energy from time to time. 104 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: I still very much few Giannis as a game breaking 105 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: defensive talent when he needs to be in big spots. 106 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: But you aren't getting like the eighty two game monster 107 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: on the defensive end that you got five years ago, 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: and that is a factor. So when I look at 109 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: the fact that Shay and Luca are better offensive players, 110 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: the case for Yannis would have to center around that 111 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: overwhelming eighty two game defensive dominance, and I just don't 112 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: see that as as prominent as it used to be. 113 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: But again we're splitting hairs. To be clear, I'm not 114 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: arguing here that Jannis has substantially declined or that he 115 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: doesn't belong in this tier. He very clearly does. I 116 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: think he has a legit case for the number two spot. 117 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: There are just some factors that I've considered when deciding 118 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: to put Luca and Shae over him for this coming season. 119 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: His case used to be overwhelming two way physical dominance. 120 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: He's just experienced some slight declines in that department that 121 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: are giving those other guys the edge for now. Now, 122 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: let's talk about where Yannis is is a basketball player. 123 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: Starting with the offensive end of the floor. Jannis had 124 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: an extremely productive shot creation season last year, fueled by 125 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: improvements as a playmaker and as a shot maker for starters. 126 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: He shot thirty nine percent on jump shots last year. 127 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: He was nine percent better than the previous year and 128 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: far and away the best percentage of his career. His 129 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: previous high was actually just below thirty four percent, so 130 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: more than a five percent improvement on his previous career 131 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: high and overall jump shot percentage that was fueled by 132 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: cutting down on his three point volume and a substantial 133 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: improvement in the mid range. Yiannis has never been able 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: to establish that little left shoulder hook that I've been 135 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: begging him to establish over the course of his career, 136 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: but he has added the ability to knock down that 137 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: little mid range jump shot, primarily out of that left handed, 138 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: high hesitation dribble that he can rise up and knock down. 139 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: He made one hundred and fifteen of them last year 140 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: on forty three point four percent. Again, nothing that's going 141 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: to be the super reliable mid range short range shot 142 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: making that you see from the best scorers. In the league. 143 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: But certainly another element to his game that he's built out. 144 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: The playmaking piece has been fueled by Giannis's improved ball 145 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: handling and some chemistry with Brook, Lopez and Portis's cutters, 146 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: and embracing one of the big strengths of that Bucks roster. 147 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: That Bucks roster had a lot of laws, but they 148 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: were excellent jump shooting. The Bucks were actually the very 149 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: best catch and shoot team in the entire NBA last year, 150 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: getting one point two points per attempt on all of 151 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: their catch and shoot looks. So through continuity and just 152 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: that overall chemistry that he's built with his bigs, and 153 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: obviously Brooke is a very different player overall than Miles, 154 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: but they have some similarities as picking pop bigs, and 155 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: it'll take some time from the new workout there timing, 156 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: but I think that that'll be a similar type of 157 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: offensive fit that he should be able to capitalize on. 158 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: And then obviously Bobby reupt but through continuity and just 159 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: chemistry with those two guys and embracing the strength of 160 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: that roster and jump shooting, and honestly just him getting 161 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: really good at making the reads after lots and lots 162 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: of repetition. He's made substantial improvements as a playmaker over 163 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: the course of the last couple of years, and all 164 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: of us had mounted to some really impressive shot creation stats. 165 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: He was low volume and picked roll like he only 166 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: ran three hundred and seventy five in the regular season 167 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: last year, but he got one point one to three 168 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: points per possession. That's awesome. That's like a really good number. 169 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,359 Speaker 1: Great variety here too, picking pops with Portis and Lopez. 170 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: He even had great chemistry with Lopez as a roller. 171 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I was watching a bunch of Giannis pick and roll 172 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: tape this morning, and he just had so many examples 173 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: where he would like put the defender in jail and 174 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: like trap him on his backside and slowly work his 175 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: way down the lane waiting for Brook to rumble and 176 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: for his screen defender to kind of just step up 177 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: a touch too far and kind of hit Brook in 178 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: that gap before the low man stepped over. And he 179 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: just had a lot of really good reps with Brook 180 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: Lopez as a roller as well. Ghost screens with shooters, 181 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: just a shit ton of these. Whether it was Tori 182 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: and Prince or it was Gary Trent. The just sheer 183 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: number of reps that he got with shooters just running 184 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: up aj Green, just running up and slipping out to 185 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: the three point line. He got downhill a ton out 186 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: of those, a lot of like simple kickbacks. That was 187 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: like an advantage creation thing that kind of started the 188 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: engine of Milwaukee's offense. It was a super productive play type. 189 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: Giannis and pick and roll. Like I mentioned earlier, I 190 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: think it should continue to function well with Miles Turner. 191 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: I actually want to see his volume double at least 192 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: there this season. I think Giannis should run at least 193 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty pick and rolls this year. I 194 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be one of the markers that I'm 195 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: tracking with him. I just think, I just think it's 196 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: really easy offense. It's like, lean into point Giannis, your 197 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: light on ball handling. Lean into point Giannis. Let him 198 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: function more as an advantage creator. Those ghost screens. Just 199 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: slip pitch it back, let that dude drive the close out. 200 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: It's an easy way for Giannis to start an advantage 201 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: without really having to use too much energy. It was 202 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: also where he shot the best from three. Just having 203 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: the ball in his hand for a long time allowed 204 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: him to build rhythm and feel comfortable with the ball 205 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: in his hands. He was eight for sixteen on pull 206 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: up three's out of pick and roll last year. It 207 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: was one of the few places where he shot the 208 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: ball really well from the three point line. Super high 209 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: volume on ISO he was okay there. One point per possession. 210 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: It's above average, nothing exceptional, but one point per possession 211 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: including passes on four hundred and fifty two reps that 212 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: ranked tenth out of the twenty three players to log 213 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: at least two hundred and fifty ISOs last year. Super 214 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: high volume on post ups and he was really good there, 215 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: one point one to two points per possession on four 216 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty reps that ranked fifth out of the 217 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: twelve players to log at least two hundred and fifty 218 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: post ups last year. The overall offensive development for Giannis 219 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: as a ball handler and as a shooter and as 220 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: a playmaker have allowed him to, I actually think improve 221 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: overall offensively, despite him not quite being the wrecking ball 222 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: of an athlete that he was in his younger years. 223 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: The Giannis of his back to back MVP seasons was 224 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: about sheer athletic force of will. This guy the twenty 225 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty twenty six version. He's not quite 226 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: the whirling dervish that he used to be, but he's 227 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: added enough polish and change of pace and overall just 228 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: unders standing of the game that I actually think he's 229 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: a better offensive player than he used to be by 230 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: a small margin. And the crazy thing is he's still 231 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: getting to the rim as much and as efficiently as 232 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: ever without needing to expend as much energy as he 233 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: used to. And a big part of that is he's 234 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: just way smarter about how he goes about it. I 235 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: was talking about passing yourself open, right Like past first players, 236 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: they need to score the ball enough to keep the 237 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: defense honest. That's an issue you're going to run into 238 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: with the Nikolay Jokicic's of the world. Like Lebron James 239 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: would have games like that in his prime sometimes where 240 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: he would just be like, yo, dude, I understand you're 241 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: making the right read, but the defense isn't reacting to 242 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: you enough because you're not punishing them enough as a 243 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: score right, Like, that's what pass first players need to 244 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: deal with. These downhill you know, I don't care if 245 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: it's a downhill guy or and over the top guy. 246 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: These score first players they need to pass the ball 247 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: enough to keep the defense honest and to keep the 248 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: floor spaced out. You add in a little change of pace, 249 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: added some improved ball handling moves, like little things like 250 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: Giannis has just gotten way better at, like getting his 251 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: defender to commit to jumping over the top of a 252 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: screen and then crossing back over, and like getting guys 253 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: caught in the in the blender there and all of 254 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: a sudden finding himself a runway, like different angles on 255 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: his drives and the timing on his drives, Like he's 256 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: just added all of those little details that's actually allowed 257 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: him to get to the rim again. Like he's still 258 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: over seventy percent on like crazy volume, and that's a 259 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: credit to him and just his overall development as an 260 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: offensive player. Now, there are two things that prevent Giannis 261 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: from reaching the level as an offensive player that the 262 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: players above him are. One is the gap in playmaking talent, 263 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: specifically with guys like Yokich and Luca, Like even with 264 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: Yannis's improvements, he's just not close to being next to 265 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: either of those guys as overall playmakers. And then the 266 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: second part of it, and this brings Sga into the 267 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: equation where he's above him as well, but also with 268 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: Luca and Jokic reliable short range shot making. When Giannis 269 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: is going against good to elite defenses in the half court, 270 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: especially in like big playoff spots where they start to scout, 271 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: really be prepared for everything, and they can successfully block 272 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: the rim off from him, and they have the athletes 273 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: to really close out to their shooters and spook them 274 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: and kind of force Giannis to hit shots over the top. 275 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: He still doesn't have a reliable hook shot and forty 276 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: three percent on pull up Midi's is good, but it's 277 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: not gonna cut it. That's zero point eighty six points 278 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: per possession, right. This is the recurring issue that Giannis 279 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: has had over the years and slow court, slowed down 280 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: half court environments, especially at the end of big playoff games, 281 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: and it's the reason why the other stars at the 282 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: at the top of the league have managed to slightly 283 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: pass him at this point in his career. In his 284 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: career and then on the defensive end, the criticisms I 285 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: have solely exist in the regular season context. His effort 286 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: and focus on that end isn't quite the same as 287 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: it once was when he won the Defensive Player of 288 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: the Year award, and that can prevent him from having 289 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: as much impact as he's capable of at times over 290 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: the eighty two. But in like Playoff Dead series, we're 291 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: in a big game and we need a bunch of stops, 292 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: like right now type of sequences. I still view Yannis 293 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: firmly in the top tier of defenders in this league, 294 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: and that's his leg up on Luca or Shay or 295 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: the folks, like the folks out there that want to 296 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: make the case that Yiannis is two. That's the case. 297 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: Jannis can reach a level defensively that can like really 298 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: change games, and that makes up for some of his 299 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: situational offensive limitations. Again the large sample, Jannis is as 300 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: efficient as shot creators you'll find in the league, but 301 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: in just these situational type of spots it can become 302 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: an issue. But Yannis's ability to break the game defensively 303 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: keeps him neck and neck with the guys who are 304 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: better than him in those very specific situational type of spots. 305 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: Bottom line with Giannis. Giannis may not have made the 306 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: skill improvements necessary to like really put the league in 307 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: a stranglehold, but he's improved enough to age gracefully as 308 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: one of the top tier superstars in this league, and 309 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: it gives me confidence that even as he gets into 310 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: his mid thirties, he's still going to be one of 311 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: those guys that's at the very least in that top 312 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: six or seven players in the league, because he just 313 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: has made the necessary improvements in a couple of key 314 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: areas to counteract his declining athleticism as he ages. The 315 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: only reasons he's slipped to the bottom of this tier 316 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: for me center around overall reliability with all the mileage 317 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: on his body as he enters into his thirties, in 318 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: his inconsistent defensive effort relative to his apex five years ago. 319 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: But to be very clear, Giannis is still very much 320 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: on that very short list of guys in this league 321 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: that are indomitable forces of nature, and he has a 322 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: very good case to be as high as number two 323 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: on this list. Him being at number four is as 324 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: much a testament to the depth of superstar talent that 325 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: we have in this league as anything else. Now, again, 326 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: for our second segment today, I wanted to discuss the 327 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: theoretical Yannis trade. We are extremely excited to announce our 328 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: new presenting sponsor, hard Rock Bet. 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We know all these teams are going to 361 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: probe the time comes. But he brought up Atlanta and 362 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: he brought up the fair point to bring up there, 363 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: which is, well, if it didn't work with Dames super well, 364 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: why would it work super well with Trey? And he 365 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: was just bringing that up as a talking point. He 366 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: didn't really dive into it. I don't think he is 367 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: revealing his take there. I would imagine if Zach expounded 368 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: up on that, he would probably agree with me that 369 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: Trey is a better fit. But that's what I kept 370 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: thinking when Zach brought that up. I thought, like, I 371 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: think Trey's a very different basketball player than they, and 372 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: I actually think flat out that is a substantially better 373 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: basketball fit with a substantially higher ceiling. Now, to be clear, again, 374 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: as we mentioned off the top, we know that Giannis 375 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: is most likely going to start the season with the Bucks. 376 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: I know that they're trying to make that work. I've 377 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: had this conversation with Bucks fans on the show before, 378 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: like it's just about acknowledging reality you probably can't win, 379 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: and if you probably can't win, and you're not close 380 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: to figuring out a way for him to win, and 381 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: he's entering into this like early mid thirties phase of 382 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: his career where you're gonna expect to see just a 383 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: tiny bit of a decline. It's kind of in the 384 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: best interest for everybody for him to get traded, so 385 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: and the best interest for Giannis because he's too damn 386 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: good to be on too limited of a roster like 387 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: the East is super weak and wide open, and it 388 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: feels like the Bucks can't win it, and like at 389 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: least they're in that firmly in that second tier of 390 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: contenders in the Eastern Conference where it feels like a 391 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff would have to go right. And that 392 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: just feels like a shame for a player who is, 393 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: like we've talked about, firmly in the race for the 394 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: two spot in the NBA among players, and still firmly 395 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: in his prime there in his early thirties. And for 396 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: the Bucks right now, they have no future, and a 397 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: Yanis trade could be the vehicle with which to propel 398 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: your franchise into the next era of Bucks basketball. So again, 399 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: like I get it. I understand Bucks fans. You're probably like, 400 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't even want to fucking talk about this right now, 401 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: and I understand that, but like I just I just 402 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: keep coming back to I think this is probably what's 403 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: for the best for both parties. So as we start 404 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: to look around the league, I have literally not been 405 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: able to stop thinking about Atlanta as a Yannis fit. 406 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: I think it's by far my favorite Yannis trade destination. 407 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: I like it because Atlanta's kind of a young, fun team, 408 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: that I have been super high on over the course 409 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: of this summer. I think Yannis would immediately propel them 410 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: into top tier championship contention. I think that the fit 411 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: on the roster is fantastic. Is fantastic, which we're going 412 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: to dive deeper into, and I think Atlanta can put 413 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: together a pretty nice package for it. I think the 414 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: package is something along the lines of Jalen Johnson and 415 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: yekakong Wu. The Hawks have a bunch of available first 416 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: round draft compensations, so they can load it up with picks. 417 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: All of a sudden. If you're Milwaukee, you get this 418 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: super exciting young player in Jalen Johnson who's athletic, and 419 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: we'll put it together highlight reels and will be a 420 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: really fun guy for the fan base to root for. 421 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: You have a legitimate first round draft compensation coming back 422 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: to restock your troves in that department. I think it 423 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: just makes a lot of sense. Now, let's dig into 424 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: the basketball, and I want to start with the Tray fit. 425 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: In theory, the Dame Giannis fit should have been better 426 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: than it was. And even though they experienced highs and 427 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: the Bucks had stretches where their offense looked amazing. It 428 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: just kind of felt like Dame and Yann has never 429 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: quite got to the level as a pick and roll 430 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: duo that they could have gotten to. I think part 431 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: of this is Dame in his age, Like if it's 432 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: thirty one year old Dame, it's probably a very different story. 433 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: I think part of it is just the play styles. 434 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: Dame has never been great at like change of pace 435 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: in ball screens, and I think he struggled with that 436 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: with Giannis as a role partner. In terms of actually 437 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: setting Yannis up with quality roleman opportunities, Dame had this 438 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: tendency to like just drive into the teeth of the 439 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: defense instead of kind of more methodically work and pick 440 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: and roll until the defense reacted to him so that 441 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: he could set Janus up with opportunities. I thought it 442 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: was even jarring how like Kevin Porter Junior seemed to 443 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: have like some immediate natural ability to get the ball 444 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: to Jannis in the pocket just because he played with 445 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: more pace in the screens, and like it just it 446 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: just never quite materialized the way it was supposed to. 447 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: I even thought there was like way too much Dame 448 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: Brook Lopez pick and pop and pick and roll because 449 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: of the fact that those two just seemed like more 450 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: of a natural fit as a partnership. I think Trey 451 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: would figure out how to be awesome with Giannis right away. 452 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: I think within weeks the two of them would be 453 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: cutting teams up. Trey is one of those guys that 454 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: has a couple of very glaring flaws that cause him 455 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: to slip down in player rankings conversations, and like, I've 456 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: had him outside of the top twenty five often. He 457 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: only broke in this year because of substantial injuries above 458 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: him on the list that I think. I can't remember 459 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: exactly where I had him, but I had him like 460 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: twenty four or twenty five in that range. And like like, 461 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: I obviously view Trey as a player that comes with 462 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: his downsides, and those downsides are obvious, clear defensive limitations 463 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: and competitiveness limitations on the defensive end of the floor, 464 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: and then on the offensive end, he's extremely susceptible to switching. 465 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: But outside of that, Tray's awesome. I view him as 466 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: a legitimate offensive engine and entirely different tier of overall 467 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: offensive weapon than Dame was at the point of his 468 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: career when he went to Milwaukee. I view him view 469 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: him as one of the top tier playmakers and passers 470 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: in this league. I view him as a guy that 471 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: would immediately figure out how to turn that partnership into 472 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: tons of awesome shots for both Yannis and for the 473 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: other role players within Atlanta. I think that Yannis we 474 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: talked about Porzingis as like a fit to kind of 475 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: help Trey with the susceptibility to switching. I think Jannis 476 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: is a super charged version of that. We went over 477 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: Giannis as one on one numbers earlier. He's one of 478 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: the better post up players in the league at volume. 479 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: Like I, I just think that fit makes a ton 480 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: of sense. To put it very simply, I think Trey 481 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: and Yannis would be a substantially better duo than Damon 482 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: Janis were, and then from there they have a really 483 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: well built roster for a Janis group. The Chris Tops 484 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: Porzingis fit. We've seen that Jannis had chemistry with pick 485 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: and pop bigs. We like the idea of having pick 486 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: and roll flexibility with Yannis and Christops on the floor together, 487 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: the ability to generate space with Christops as an above 488 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: the break three point shooter, a better version of what 489 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: Brook Lopez was in his time there. They've got that 490 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: depth of perimeter talent. So you can give up a 491 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson in that deal. And thankfully, Jalen makes thirty 492 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: million now, so he can take up a big chunk 493 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: of the salary that you need to send out. But 494 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: you can keep Zachary res Lache, and you can keep 495 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: Dyson Daniels, and you can keep Nikhil Alexander Walker, and 496 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: you can have like a depth of two way role 497 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: player talent surrounding the tray and Jannis duo. It even 498 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: fix the fixes one of the specific deficits on that 499 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks roster. As much as I like that Atlanta 500 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: Hawks roster right now, they've got a deficit of ball handling. 501 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: It gets pretty dark once you get past Trey Jannis 502 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: has is gonna deal with a similar issue in Milwaukee 503 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: this year. It's a big part of why I've talked 504 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: about him increasing his pick and roll volume. Giannis would 505 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: come in and immediately fix their ball handling deficit because 506 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: of his ability to run action. With all the improvements 507 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: he's made it as a ball handler and as an 508 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: advantage creator in the league, I just think it's the 509 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: most fun Jannis going to some awesome team like Houston 510 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: or Oklahoma City or you know him, you know, getting 511 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: traded in New York to play for the Knicks. Like 512 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: any of those sorts of situations, they kind of feel 513 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: too obvious and too like they don't they lack some 514 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: of that intrigue. And Atlanta I just think would be 515 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: a super fun team for Giannis to go to. It 516 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: immediately reinvigorates Trey as one of the more influential players 517 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: in the league. It takes a fun young team and 518 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: propels them from a lower tier to an upper tier. 519 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: It makes the Eastern Conference. It maintains the strength of 520 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. We don't want Giannis to go to 521 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: the West. He's the only top tier star in the 522 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: conference right now, and so, like I, if Yannis were 523 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: to get traded right now, I'm looking at Atlanta as 524 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: easily my favorite spot for him to go. I just 525 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: think it makes a ton of basketball sense. I've been 526 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: thinking about it all day. All right, guys, It's all 527 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: I have for today is always a sincerely appreciate you 528 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: guys for supporting us and supporting the show. We'll be 529 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: back on Wednesday with number three, and then we're tweaking 530 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: our format a bit this week. Instead of a mailbag 531 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: on Friday, we're gonna do number two and number one, 532 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: so we're gonna finish the list this week. I will 533 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: see you guys on a Wednesday.