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Speaker 1: M hey, Welcome to episode one of the Bobby Cast,

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Speaker 1: where we're kind of gonna get into that thing of

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Speaker 1: after these artists do this, do you feel guilty listening

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Speaker 1: to their music? Because I see that R Kelly has

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Speaker 1: another thing coming out about him. It's it's the update

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Speaker 1: to the Surviving R Kelly. It's like called Surviving R Kelly,

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Speaker 1: like the Aftermath or something. Um. Obviously the Michael Jackson

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Speaker 1: stuff and some of these scandals unless we can do

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Speaker 1: a podcast on every one of these a whole one.

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Speaker 1: But I just wonder if the scandal has made you

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Speaker 1: think differently about them even now, or if it's affected

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Speaker 1: you listening to their music. And I haven't seen the list,

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Speaker 1: but just watching you kind of scan over the scandals,

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Speaker 1: I think you cringed over. Some of them are tough,

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Speaker 1: and some of them, I know. I could spend an

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Speaker 1: hour talking about just the scandal itself. Well, let's start

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Speaker 1: with this because we were talking about Willie Nelson. His

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Speaker 1: birthday was this week. What scandal do you have Willie

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Speaker 1: Nelson secretly following a child? Did you know about this one? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so for years Willie Nelson thought he had seven children. Okay,

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Speaker 1: turns out he has eight. In the autobiography, he revealed

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Speaker 1: he had a secret family spanning three generations that he

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Speaker 1: never knew existed. He says, I have an old dear friend, Mary,

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Speaker 1: who had lost touch with but recently met again after

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Speaker 1: decades apart. Turns out Mary and I had a child

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Speaker 1: together called Renee. Also turns out Renee has a daughter, Noel,

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Speaker 1: who has a daughter named Jordan's. And I'm now happy

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Speaker 1: to call myself a great grandfather. Wow, So he didn't

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Speaker 1: know that these kids existed. One he knows the main

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Speaker 1: grandfather without even knowing it. Yeah, that's a trippy. So

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Speaker 1: again that one to me and people have kids, not

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Speaker 1: too crazy of a scandal, But man, they didn't know

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Speaker 1: that one. Interesting, right? So that was one? Um, and

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Speaker 1: who have a lot of them? What about let's do

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Speaker 1: this one because this one was kind of dopey, but

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Speaker 1: it was a huge one at the time for pop culture.

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Speaker 1: Ashley simpson deal career, I mean there have been people

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Speaker 1: who have done much worse things who are just thriving.

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Speaker 1: This runed. Actually Simpson's career do you go? Do you

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Speaker 1: know why she lip synced? Yeah? There a reason? Was

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Speaker 1: there a clear reason why she did. Everybody lips thinks

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Speaker 1: their pop stars because they can't really sing or they

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Speaker 1: Was this just early on before everyone did it or

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Speaker 1: what I think? I think everybody was doing it? So

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Speaker 1: what made this one so different that it messed up

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Speaker 1: on live TV? That's what made it different that it

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Speaker 1: messed up. In two thousand four, Ashley Simpson gave a

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Speaker 1: awkward performance on Sevenday Live. She made performed three songs

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Speaker 1: from the album Autobiography. She sang her first number, pieces

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Speaker 1: an issue, But when she took the stage again for

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Speaker 1: another song, Pieces of Me began to play again the

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Speaker 1: same one she had just done. Yeah, And so what

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Speaker 1: happened was that she started doing a hodown dance. I

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Speaker 1: remember this. At first, she blamed the band too afterwards

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Speaker 1: and they started the wrong song. Ten years later, it

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Speaker 1: was explained that she didn't originally plan on lip sinking.

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Speaker 1: Apparently there was a mishap during rehearsal and they decided

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Speaker 1: I didn't feel comfortable with her singing for a girl.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about that. Like I actually liked actually Simpson,

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Speaker 1: I like, but that kind of was it for her

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Speaker 1: because it was such a there must have been nothing

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Speaker 1: my listening of Ashley Simpson in the way up. She

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Speaker 1: TLC for example, Lisa left I Lopez burned down Andre

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Speaker 1: I don't remember, and seeing it on the news like that,

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Speaker 1: She's not alive right now, she's no longer with us.

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Speaker 1: How did she die? Plane crash? Car crash? Car crash

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Speaker 1: in another country? Really? Yeah? Yeah? Leiah died in the

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Speaker 1: plane crash, that's right. Uh, Lisa left died and I

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Speaker 1: If anything, you thought Tilse was cooler after this? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone stopped listening until c right scandal.

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Speaker 1: But Mike's bringing me the new How she die in

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Speaker 1: a car? Yeah, car crash? And when where was she? Honduras? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so not an island but South America? Right? Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: one we talked about scandals that made you maybe look

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Speaker 1: at their music different. Chris Brown, Oh yeah, this one

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Speaker 1: did it for me. Chris Brown assaults Rihanna. Following the

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Speaker 1: then girlfriend Rihanna were involved in a brutal physical altercation

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Speaker 1: one year of counseling. So the fame of both artists

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Speaker 1: have skyrocketed. Brown has been unable to shake the event stigma.

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Speaker 1: I still think of him as the as the guy

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Speaker 1: would beat Rihanna too, And I don't think it's there

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Speaker 1: is so much just like you know, it made people

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Speaker 1: how bad Chris Brown is. Yeah, it seems like a

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Speaker 1: bad dude. He was just recently nothing with churches where

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Speaker 1: they were like hey, why Marshmallow and somebody else like

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Speaker 1: are you still working with Chris Brown. He's had a

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Speaker 1: couple incidents. There's a church as the band. Yeah it

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Speaker 1: and then Chris Brown fires back. I was like, wish

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Speaker 1: you guys get hit by a bus. Dude, this is

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Speaker 1: a big gun that really stopped his career. Right, It

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Speaker 1: just depends that you ask, because but he's massive right now. Wow,

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Speaker 1: So but stop his career. No, but made me think differently.

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Speaker 1: But I think if anything, made it bigger. At times

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Speaker 1: and he becomes really famous after something like that, like

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Speaker 1: Arkelly's music skyrocketed. Correct, I rocket um and we can

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Speaker 1: do that. R Kelly is allegedly involved in sex crimes.

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Speaker 1: R Kelly, whose full name is Robert Kelly, went on

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Speaker 1: to become one of the best selling musical artists of

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Speaker 1: anti libido shots. His attorney was like, dude, when he

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Speaker 1: was what is that. Well, apparently, if you just want

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Speaker 1: the blue pill. Wow, that's a jam. But she's like,

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Speaker 1: I can't play R Kelly. Now, yeah, you have that

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Speaker 1: it to Mychael Jackson. We know all this, and the

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Speaker 1: Finding Neverland came out on HBO and then everyone says,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play Michael Jackson anymore. And then you

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Speaker 1: people who did the documentary and not everything they said

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Speaker 1: it was accurate and Michael Jackson can't defend himself, but man,

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Speaker 1: it looks bad. How do you feel about Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Michael Jackson. We all kind of

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Speaker 1: had an idea that something was weird about him, right,

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Speaker 1: the music. I don't have a problem listening to Michael

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Speaker 1: And that's when I was like, m this internal debate

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Speaker 1: can't listen to Michael Jackson. I'm just telling you how

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Speaker 1: without thinking about it. Ryan Adams recently. Okay, See, I

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Speaker 1: what with Ryan Adams and his music and because of

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Speaker 1: what I read about it. But every time Ryan Adams

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Speaker 1: These songs to me don't have a meaning anymore. It's

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Speaker 1: a weird thing. And I love Ryan Adams. Ryan Adams

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Speaker 1: acused of sexual misconduct by several women. By the way,

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Speaker 1: don't get Ryan and Bryan Adams. Ryan Adams back in February,

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Speaker 1: it was accused of sexual misconduct and manipulative behavior. Seven

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Speaker 1: pursuing female artists for sex. The article claims in some cases.

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Speaker 1: They said he would turn domineering and vengeful, jerking away

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Speaker 1: first and three Ryan Adams albums Slight put on hold indefinitely.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Where are you falling this? I

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Speaker 1: am not a big Ryan Adams fan, so why not

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Speaker 1: it's the music or him? Before before knowing all this,

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Speaker 1: his then girlfriend Jennifer Lopez were arresting connection with the

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Speaker 1: shooting initially caused by a dispute inside the club that

428
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Speaker 1: injured three people and this one girl was shot in

429
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Speaker 1: the face. I don't I don't remember this. Charges were

430
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: dropped against him for lopeps within an hour. It turns

431
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Speaker 1: out she wasn't involved in the incident. Did He. However,

432
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: was charted with the gun possession of bribery um, but

433
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Speaker 1: later acquitted when his friend and fellow rapper Shine confessed

434
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Speaker 1: to the shooting. So was j Lo there? I believe So?

435
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Speaker 1: I believe they like ran Huh they jump in the

436
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Speaker 1: car and run. WHOA. I didn't know about this. Here's

437
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: my thing. If I'm super rich and famous, even if

438
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Speaker 1: I want to shoot somebody, I'm gonna have some bill

439
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: shoot somebody for me. Right, Why would you do it?

440
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: And maybe I don't know what happened, if Sean really

441
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: did it, or if Shan took the heat or Shine

442
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: still in jail. I don't know. Wow, you dinna get out.

443
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: He's always got a job at Bad Boy then. Uh.

444
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Speaker 1: Speaking of guns, Gretchen Wilson's airport arrest, Yeah, that's not

445
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: too long ago, right, Was that a gun? Or was

446
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: that her fighting on an airplane. Oh, I'm thinking of

447
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: the fight on the airplane, not the gun. Gretchen Wilson

448
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: found herself in trouble with the law back in August.

449
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Speaker 1: She caused a disturbance during a flight to Connecticut. It

450
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Speaker 1: was reported that it was due to an altercation with

451
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Speaker 1: another passenger on the board. On board was that bathroom?

452
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Speaker 1: And if I ain't got the bathroom, I get it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was it. Gretchen was arrested as soon as the

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Speaker 1: flight landed and charged with breach of peace. They were

455
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Speaker 1: later dropped as she made a five hundred donations to

456
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Speaker 1: Criminal Injuries Conversation Fund. Yeah. I mean, listen, if you

457
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Speaker 1: are drunk, even if you're not drunk, if you're me

458
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: somebody being a douche about the bathroom, I'll get irritated too.

459
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: Don't cut in line. That irritates me because that means

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Speaker 1: you have no respect for people around you. If you're

461
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Speaker 1: just cutting in line, or if you're being a douche

462
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Speaker 1: with the bathroom on an airplane. I fly so much.

463
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: I get down with your business and move on unless

464
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Speaker 1: you're sick, and then let everyone know. When I got sick.

465
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Speaker 1: Find in Hawaiian American I'll let everybody know, I said,

466
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Speaker 1: tell the fly attendant. I said, I'm going in. I

467
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Speaker 1: have food poisoning heads up, and I'm not coming out

468
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Speaker 1: for a bit. And I started cleaning the bathroom because

469
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Speaker 1: it's nice of you before. I don't want to be

470
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Speaker 1: in that room with all that disgusting pepe pobo, so

471
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Speaker 1: I'm cleaning it and throwing this stuff away. But I

472
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Speaker 1: told her, you may want to let everybody know that

473
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Speaker 1: I'm not coming out if they come back here and

474
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Speaker 1: send them to the back. And I don't listen. I

475
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Speaker 1: don't know what happened there. But what I like about that, though,

476
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Speaker 1: is that you expect that from Gretchen, Like it's almost

477
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Speaker 1: like she lived out her her songs, like she lived

478
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Speaker 1: out who she is as an artist. You expect a

479
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Speaker 1: fight from her over a bathroom on an air whatever?

480
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Speaker 1: Do you just expect a redneck woman's way? Yeah? Yeah,

481
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Speaker 1: you don't. You don't expect like dusting inch to go

482
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Speaker 1: fight someone or what. But Greten Wilsons, how about this

483
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Speaker 1: when Marvin Gay was murdered by his dad crazy? Do

484
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Speaker 1: you know that story? What do you know from it? Um?

485
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Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, I think his dad was trying

486
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Speaker 1: to hurt his mom. An argument between Marvin Gay and

487
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: his dad, Marvin Gay Sr. Led to his death. Marvin Gay,

488
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Speaker 1: which just forty four, when his dad shot him in

489
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Speaker 1: Gay's parents had arguments mainly over a misplaced insurance policy

490
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: letter so dumb. The day before his death, the argument

491
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Speaker 1: spread to Marvin Gay Singer's bedroom. Angered by his father

492
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Speaker 1: confronting his mother, and so you're talking about Marvin Gay

493
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: commanded his dad to leave her alone. The dad complied

494
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Speaker 1: with that incident. There was no violence that night, but

495
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Speaker 1: the dad continued yelling throughout the night. Gay was shot

496
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Speaker 1: twice following an all times with his father, uh in

497
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Speaker 1: an argument later. I don't know how you can an

498
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Speaker 1: argument can be so bad that you shoot your own son,

499
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: like crazy, huh them. I was watching the Robert Johnson

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Speaker 1: documentary on Netflix, and so I think my time frame

501
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: was off on also, when he lived, I think he

502
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: was born like nineteen eleven or something, okay, and died

503
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Speaker 1: like I would have thought he was a bit after that,

504
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Speaker 1: and so, and you made fact check that for me.

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Speaker 1: But I know Robert Johnson because and I realized why

506
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Speaker 1: I know him mostly from people covering his songs so

507
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Speaker 1: I know, like Crossroads you can cream Gay four nineteen

508
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: eleven died. I see thirty eight. That's pretty good on him,

509
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: all right, So go down to the crossroads. John Mayry

510
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: does a killer version too. But what happens is he's

511
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Speaker 1: really that he had really invented these standard blues licks

512
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Speaker 1: that turn into rock and roll, and so his whole

513
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: story is he supposedly made a deal with the devil.

514
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: He according to this documentary, they're not saying it's true.

515
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: They're telling the story of why people feel this way.

516
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: He his um stepdad was a sharecropper. He did not

517
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: want to work in the field. He wanted to play music.

518
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 1: So he got this old guitar and he would sit

519
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Speaker 1: around when people would play music on the weekends and

520
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Speaker 1: borrow the guitar and play it when they were and

521
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: they were like, you suck, you suck, you suck. So

522
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Speaker 1: he left for a year and came back and was great,

523
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Speaker 1: And they think he went and made a deal with

524
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Speaker 1: the devil. That's what they say. Legends time has often

525
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: enhanced stories. Was devil's music. Oh, girls wouldn't even be

526
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: with them because that he had a couple of loves

527
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Speaker 1: of his life and their parents would let to mary

528
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: him because said he played the devil's music, because blues

529
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Speaker 1: music was devil's music. Blues music back then is what

530
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Speaker 1: Metallica was to some parents like that, that's like literal devil,

531
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Speaker 1: not just rebel, but literal speaking to the devil. The

532
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: Beatles were that at a time, you know, backward masking,

533
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: when they would backwards like they're all these connections to

534
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: the Satanic, but he was literally the devil. And so

535
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: what happened is he goes and does this thing. He

536
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: dies at seven, and as blues becomes bigger in Chicago,

537
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: like a lot of the Muddy Waters, BB King started

538
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: to play chess records Robert Johnson's music and play like

539
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: Robert Johnson and attribute their style and how good they

540
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: are to Robert Johnson. So people go back and find

541
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: his recordings and he becomes a thing way later because

542
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: again he died, and it had Eric Clapton, who's the cream,

543
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are playing Crossroads, even you

544
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Speaker 1: know John Mayor, I said, does he only's only recorded

545
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: like twenty songs, ever, only two pictures of Robert Johnson ever. Yeah,

546
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: and and it's the famous I've seen the famous one.

547
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: But that's only so they don't know how he died.

548
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Robert Johnson overdose, okay, overdose, like or he's like drinking no,

549
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: no poison. He got poisoned in the bars, what they think?

550
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: That's right. He was drinking wine without a seal on it.

551
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: Somebody had given it to him because apparently there was

552
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: an issue and he apparently was poison He drank it,

553
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: got really sick for a few days, and then died crazy.

554
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to watch this. I think you'll like it.

555
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's so mass appeal that casual

556
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: fans will enjoy it. And then I remember the movie,

557
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: like I don't know, eighties movie maybe with Ralph Macho, Crossroads.

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00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's about this um and it's a it's

559
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: a just all guitar stuff, Steve V you know Ralph Macho.

560
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: And I think Steve I is the devil. I think,

561
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: and they have like I remember my brother watching it

562
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: was this big battle scene of Ralph Mocho fighting the

563
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: devil who was Steve I on a guitar battle and

564
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: I think it's based on this and those kind of

565
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: folklore beliefs of Robert Johnson. It's interesting. It's only like

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Speaker 1: forty eight minutes to the Elton john movie is coming out.

567
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: I've seen the previous for that. I've not who plays him.

568
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't know some British dude. Huhn't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the actor. But it's about Elton John's life and he's

570
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: still alive. Have you seen the preview to the movie? Um,

571
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: it's the Edge Sheering's in it. It's about the Beatles. Oh,

572
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: it's like if you're the only person like He's like,

573
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: how do you guys know the Beatles? But he knows

574
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: every Beatles song. Yes, something happens where the Beatles no

575
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: longer exist, but only I've never exists. I've never existed,

576
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: but only he knows the music and say He's like, well,

577
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: I want to release all the songs as if I

578
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: did it and then out yet Okay, it's called Yesterday Yesterday.

579
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: I've seen the preview. I thought it looked like fantastic, dude,

580
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: did you laugh at the Edge Sheering part where I

581
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: don't know that I remember it? What is it? So?

582
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: He they're in the studio and Edge her It's like, look, man,

583
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: I like the song, but what do you think about

584
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: calling it. Hear me out call it hey dude instead

585
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: of hey dude. It's well He's like, yeah, try hey dude,

586
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: that's funny. I love that. The concept is great. I

587
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: can't wait for that to come out. I didn't know

588
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: that was in it, Yeah, I think. I mean, he's

589
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: in the preview. I don't know what big party he

590
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: has in it, but that reminds me when I was

591
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: watching La La Land, which I loved. John Legend just

592
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: shows up and then has a big part of the

593
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: whole show. He's the he's the band member, he's the

594
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: leader at the bar, and then stays in the movie

595
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: the whole rest of the time. Seriously, how good a

596
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: movie is that? I hate to almost overseell like because

597
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: people will watch it, and if it's just not for them,

598
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't think movies for everybody, but

599
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: I think that it's what two years ago, three years ago,

600
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: It's been a while, so so whoever was going to

601
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: watch it watched it. I loved it too. Man made

602
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: me feel good. Yeah me too. It was dopey in

603
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: a good way, and it was it wasn't dopey. And

604
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: I love no spoiler. I love the ending. I love.

605
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: I love the beginning. That's your kind of ending. The

606
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: beginning is so good because it's a dancing and they

607
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: all are, and then it just goes back and then

608
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: the ending is so good, and then all the music

609
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: is so good. I love La La Land. Yeah, I

610
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 1: did too, So I think we'll wrap on that all right,

611
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen hour. I feel like we I just

612
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: felt we could have on ten podcasts on each of

613
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: those scandals. Those scandals, I feel like we did. We

614
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: did all right, So that's um. Did those scandals make

615
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: you listen to the music any different? And for the

616
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: most part we said no. For the most part, there's

617
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: somewhere we stood our ground or just like Kelly and

618
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Adams a bit for you and it was a

619
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: weird I just can't do it, Chris Brown, I feel differently,

620
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: but I still listen a lot of these other ones though,

621
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: inspired me to listen more all of them, like, oh

622
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious. Yeah, yeah, thank you guys for listening. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: See you next time. Thanks Eddie, by the way, promote

624
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Speaker 1: your podcast, Yeah, Sore Losers podcast, It's me lunch Box

625
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: and Ray from the Bobby Bones show, and we we

626
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: do sports, but I mean we're not We're not all

627
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: about sports. I don't know that much about sports on

628
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: your average like sports dude. So lunch Box claims to

629
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Speaker 1: be the the genius and so we just talked about that,

630
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: and I usually have dumb arguments. It's fun. Check it

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Speaker 1: out Sore Losers Podcast. All right, thank Ny and everybody else.

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Speaker 1: By