WEBVTT - PAT MONAHAN (TRAIN): "AM Gold" 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:09.160 Did you feel it? Spring has sprung? Were you paying attention? 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:14.160 Did it just happen while your mind was wandering, dreaming 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:18.560 of sunshine and blue skies. It might be a while 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:22.920 before you feel like walking outdoors barefoot, but thankfully those 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:27.760 days are not far off. 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Hope is what carries us through to the 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:14.520 other side, whether it's world issues, that crazy little thing 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.479 called love that's weighing heavily upon you. Remember that there 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:23.360 are brighter days ahead. Today's guest on love. Someone might 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.920 not be able to solve any dilemmas you're facing, but 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.440 the news he brings will surely put a smile on 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.440 your face and a spring in your step. Known for 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:37.560 their countless chart topping hits spanning nearly three decades, multi 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:43.839 Grammy Award winning band Train has announced their eleventh studio album, 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.960 am Gold, which is set to release on ma frontman 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.840 Pat Monaghan is setting down with me to tell me 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.600 all about it. Am Gold is the group's first release 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.560 of all new original music in five years. They recently 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.240 dropped the title track, am Gold, which is absolutely phenomenal. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.400 It's kind of got a retro vibe, but its message 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.280 could never be more perfect than right now. It's available 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.000 everywhere and as soon as you've listened to this interview 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.960 with frontman Pat monahand you need to download it and 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:22.120 watch the amazing lyric video. Pat's busy with other ventures 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.680 outside of music too. He's a busy family man and 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:29.239 an award winning wine maker. His label, Saved Me San 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.760 Francisco Wine Company, has won over one hundred medals. 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Welcome to today's podcast, 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.800 Today's episode of Love Someone. Pat Monahan, frontman for Train. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.479 Good morning. So you are going on the road soon, uh, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.680 And before we talk about your tour, we got to 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:37.240 talk about am Gold. I'm in love with am Gold. 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.600 I'm so in love with that song for so many reasons. 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.320 But tell me, tell me your inspiration. Well, you know, 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.160 in the beginning of the pandemic, we had our twenty 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.160 anniversary of Drops and Jupiter. We put the Greatest Hits 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.520 record out and I was writing this record and going 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.560 to Los Angeles all the time, and and I loved 0:04:55.640 --> 0:05:00.680 the record. But it was pretty pop, and uh, it 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.360 was it was cool. It was it was going to 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:06.280 be really fun and and good. But then the pandemic 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.440 hit and everyone that I was writing with they shut 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.279 it down and I ended up I ended up writing 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.679 songs virtually with my band, and as we wrote these songs, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.320 I was like, this is the record that I was 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:22.320 supposed to make. It's uh, it's a throwback record with 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.800 you know, R and B and and disco and you know, 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.320 singer songwriter songs. And my manager was like, you're making 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.040 an am Gold record and I was like, that might 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.719 be before my time. What is that? So I watched 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:40.479 all these uh advertisements about the am Gold albums and 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.800 I was like, that's exactly what this is. It's an 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.320 am Gold album. It's like a compilation of all these 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.640 different sounds that were you know, hit songs back then. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:53.240 And uh. Then I wrote the song am Gold because 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.440 that was the last one to be written that would 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.760 tie it all together and make sense of the whole thing. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.760 And it ends up being the first thing that people here. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.680 But when you hear the rest of the album, you'll 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:10.920 you'll definitely recognize that throwback sound. That is going to be, uh, 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.359 you know, a fresh reminder of the past. But usually 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.640 I'm inspired by current artists doing current work, but this 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.640 one was inspired by the past, for sure. My podcast 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.080 producer and I were talking about it before you came on, 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.880 and she's like, I am so in love with the song. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.719 I am so in love with this project, and it is. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:35.200 It's got that throwback sound, but it's got a fresh message, 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.279 Like it's got the sound that's kind of throwback and retro, 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:43.560 but the message and the lyrics are vitally important, I 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.479 think for where we're all at right now. Yeah, I 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.200 think that what you know, I read this quote about 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:54.839 the Internet and how we're so stressed that we just 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.400 keep scrolling or we're so happy that we just keep scrolling, 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.520 and we're all these things, but to get back in 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.760 touch with being human and being there from one another. 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.520 And uh, you know, if if he don't love you 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.440 no more, she don't love you no more, if they 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.160 don't love you anymore, than just get on the dance 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.080 floor with the people that do love you. Because that's 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.880 really you know, life can be a dance party if 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.360 if you want that, you know it can. And honestly, 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.400 don't you think it's a much better dance party when 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.600 you are just dancing with the folks that love you 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:30.720 rather than worrying about coupling. And and uh, it's coming 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:37.080 back that that understanding, that that my friendships are precious 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:41.960 and worth celebrating. And that was the feeling that I 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.680 got the fifteen times I listened to a gold Over 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.040 and well, thanks, I love that that's a you know, 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.680 my wife and I talk a lot about um music 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:57.760 that makes you feel good, because what a great gift 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.360 that's given all of us over the year is to 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.680 like find a son that makes you feel good about 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:07.120 yourself because it's hard to be human sometimes, and you know, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.920 with the last two years and then as soon as 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.600 the pandemic seems to be reaching its end, people are 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.040 worried about what's happening in the Ukraine and Russia that 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.920 it might sift into the rest of our human existence. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:25.160 And to have a song that could maybe uh give you, 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.520 you know, two and a half minutes of thinking about 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.400 something that that is okay, it seems like a pretty good, 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.840 pretty good gift. I have made an effort the last 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.280 couple of years since I've been doing the podcast to 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:43.640 try not to try not to interject my own stuff 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.640 into conversations, which is hard because that's you know, who 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.800 I am by nature. But I just bought an AM 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:57.240 radio station by the first AM station that I was 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.760 ever on, the first radio station I was on the 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:07.400 Envy and uh, circumstances came together and it's been dark 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.840 for a while and I was able to buy it 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.240 and put it back on the air. So what will 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:17.040 what will it broadcast? Um? It's it's for and about 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.760 the community that I grew up in and read sport. Um. 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.520 But it's on I Heart Radio now, So anybody who 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.960 wants to escape the madness of big cities and feel 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.839 like they're a part of something really sweet and really 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.439 precious can listen. That's really cool. What's the station? Uh, 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.360 it's called k do you in Doune Radio? Voice of 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.719 the Oregon Dunes ten three oh Dune Radio. So if 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.440 you just go on iHeart wherever you are, you can 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.400 look up ten three. Oh, that's really cool and we play. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.600 I think that you interjecting yourself. That's why people listen 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.640 to you. So you have to you have to keep 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.120 doing that. Oh thank you. Well. I tend to be 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.800 somewhat narcissistic, Okay, a lot narcissistic sometimes, and I'm trying 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.640 to stop that. Um. But when I heard a am 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.000 Gold and I listened to it, I'm like, oh my gosh, 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.360 oh my gosh, this is perfect because all the music 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:16.840 is retro on the station. But I'm adding this because 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.480 it's so perfect. It's so there's so many you know, 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:25.560 there's sometimes in life that things just cosmically seemed to 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:30.360 come together in Like I'll bake something or make a 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.200 dinner that I always make for the kids, but sometimes 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.839 there's that extra ingredient or extra bit of sour cream. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.599 I don't know what it is, and the kids will go, 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.480 oh my gosh, Mom, this is the best laza on 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.600 you you've ever made. You know, whatever it is. And 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.680 that's am Gold, like when I listened to it, because 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:52.800 the meaning, the lyrics, the hope that it offers, the 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:57.599 self awareness that you gotta love yourself. You gotta you 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.839 gotta like yourself. You've gotta love yourself, and you gotta 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.679 make your dreams come true. Stop waiting. And I hate 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.760 Disney movies where they wait for Prince Charming, you know, 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.319 to come along. Stop waiting, Stop waiting. So that's one 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:15.679 of the one of those songs, um and I know 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.960 you're you're working with Jewel this summer. But her her 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:23.240 song Hands when it came out, had that same impact 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:28.200 on my heart, like it was perfection, And when I 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.120 listened to am Gold, it was perfection. You know. I 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.280 feel like you and would be good friends. Oh my god, 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.640 very similar way about looking at things. I love that 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:43.520 woman's tenacity. Yeah, she's cool. She's so cool and and 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:48.240 I have loved watching her career and her personality evolve 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.960 to you know what, I'm gonna I'm gonna say what 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.120 it is. I'm gonna say what it is. I'm not 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.240 going to hold back anymore. Yeah, she's good at it. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.800 She's good at doing it in a way that makes uh, 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:03.800 makes her sounds art instead of judge. She is, she's 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.800 aware instead of critical. I think she's probably one of 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.480 those MINSA people. You know. Yeah, maybe she has that 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:15.640 big high i Q going on. Yeah. I never had 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:21.520 to worry about that neither. Ah. So you're going on 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.839 tour this summer with am Gold and it's been two years, 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.320 three years since he got to tour. Well, we toured 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.880 last summer. We did twenty five shows and every moment 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.240 we were worried we would get shut down because every 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.520 tour around us was getting shut down, and we lasted 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.640 the whole time. It worked out great. All the tickets 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.200 were sold and many times there would be hundreds of 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.600 people that didn't show up because they were uh, you 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.320 know that the times were shifting all over the place. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.400 It was a big wave. Everyone was on and so 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.600 there would be some towns. But we played Shout to St. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.000 Michel and in Seattle for two nights and everybody showed up. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.520 But it was really beautiful. My a ten year old 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.520 son came out and did a song that I was 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:11.240 a feature on called vacation a I'm a make Asian 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:16.040 every single day because I love my occupation. So he 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.000 did that with me and we just had a great time. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.320 So this this summer will be an extension of that 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.280 one in a lot of ways and then a lot 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.880 different in other ways. I think because there's so many 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.760 horns and strings on this new album, we'll we'll bring 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.320 out a horn section. Really makes some fun of it. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.160 It sounds wonderful. So tell everybody who else is going 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.959 to be with you other than Jewel and Blues Traveler. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.040 We hadn't mentioned John yet. We hadn't mentioned John or 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.160 or Blues Traveler. Is it the whole group or just 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.640 John Popper? No, to be the whole group. So John 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.520 and I years ago, like many years ago, we closed 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.360 this club in d C down called the Bayou. Do 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.760 you remember that one? So it was a little club 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.240 that we were the last ones to be on stage. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.000 And then I think they turned it into some apartment buildings. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.280 But and then years later Train open from Blues Traveler 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.400 at the Greek Theater before we had a record deal 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.520 in the Greek Theater in San Francisco. Uh, and then 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.280 we got a record deal. And you know, I haven't 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.040 seen John in a while, but he was on my 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.640 podcast when I had it, you know, like ten years ago, 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.880 and I haven't seen him since. But I think that 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.880 it'll be just like getting back together like old friends, 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.680 and we'll join each other on stage. And I'm on 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.040 one of Jewel's songs on her new album, and she's 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.320 on one of ours, and so we'll join each other 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:37.120 on stage for that. Because I've learned the hard way 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:43.520 that camaraderie is not just the best way to enjoy 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.920 a tour as a travel traveling musician, but it's also 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:51.760 the best way for fans to enjoy uh your tour 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.240 and for it to be special is if they can 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.320 see that camaraderie. And I always try to make that 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:02.920 a big part of every show. So John Popper was 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.960 the featured artist on a tour that I went on 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:10.880 in two thousand and six. We went to Afghanistan to Iraq, 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:15.320 we did a military tour with the Air Force Reserve band. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:20.920 John's the funniest, funniest man I think I've ever met. Yeah, 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:25.400 he's hilarious. Gosh, what an amazing time we had. What 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.360 a gifted artist. Yeah, he's cool. I think in the 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.720 beginning of the tour, a friend of mine, his name 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.920 is Thunderstorm Artiss is going to come out and he'll 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:42.240 open all the shows and kids. Understorm artis from from Hawaii. Yeah, 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:46.200 do you know him. I took my family to Hawaii 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.920 and we decided to go to this little area and 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.080 we hear music. And my godson, who is the engineer 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.640 on this podcast, heard music and he's a musician. He's like, Wow, 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.960 that sounds good. Let's go check it out. So we 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.800 go and we go meet the whole artist family that 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:08.000 are phenomenal. And it was shortly after their papa had passed, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.600 who was the king of their family, and the mom 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.880 was trying to keep the kids together, trying to keep 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:18.240 them going forward, and was doing an amazing job in 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:22.280 the midst of her great grief. And we spent hours 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.440 with him, like, hey, stay and eat, we'll have dinner 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.120 with you. And we looked at their artwork, and we 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.239 looked at their graphic work, and we looked at their batiquing, 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.680 and blah blah blah. Ryan comes to me and he goes, 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.080 remember the artist family from Hawaii. Check dude out. He's 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.240 unlike American idol or whatever it was. It was like, 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.840 holy moldy, so talented, and I think he was like 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.880 ten or eleven when we met him. I met Thunderstorm 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:52.400 when he was eight. Uh and years later he opened 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.400 for us last year, last summer, and I was like, 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.280 hey man, you gotta come out with us next year. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.640 So he's going to come out for the first month 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.000 and uh then he's gonna go have a baby with 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:08.159 his wife. And then while that's happening, Will from a 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.880 band called Parachute will join us. Will as a wonderful kid. 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.000 You'll know some Parachute songs. He'll take over for a 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.840 Thunderstorm for a month, and then Thunderstorm will come back 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:22.360 out and finish the tour with us. Oh fun, fun. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.800 You have surrounded yourself, pat you and train with really 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.960 amazing people. Yeah, that was the end goal, not just 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:35.639 great artists, but amazing human beings. You're gonna have fun. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.880 You are going to have so much fun on this tour. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.919 I have done so many tours, Delilah that uh, I 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.720 have taken away something from every one of them, be 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:49.760 good or bad. One of the major lessons that I 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:51.920 learned was one of the first tours I ever did 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.520 was with a band called Everything. You may remember their 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.880 sawing it when who got the Hooch? You got? Anyway, 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.240 it was called the Hooch, and we toured with them 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:07.000 early on. They had a trombone player who played keyboards. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.119 His name was Wolf, and he was so fun and 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.160 so cool, and he told me the story that really 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:19.200 influenced how I was going to behave where he told 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.360 me that he went out with the band Cracker. Uh. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.680 Cracker was one of my favorite bands at the time, 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.200 and I was like, oh cool? Was it awesome? And 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:31.320 he was like kinda. But the first night, because everything 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.359 was opening for them, he went up to the B 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.720 three Hammond player and said, hey, man, since this is 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.879 such a big rig in the stage is so small, 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:42.000 can I use your gear so I don't have to 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.920 bring my B three up in everything? And the guy said, 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:46.800 here's the way this tour is gonna work. You'll use 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.159 your ship and I'll use mine, and so Wolf said, okay, 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.440 well guess who's him? And B three broke down three 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.400 days later, the guy from Cracker, and I was like, oh, 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.720 sweet dude, I love this and and he goes so 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:02.439 he had to come to me and said, hey, can 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.680 I use your BE three tonight? And I said, dude, 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:06.960 would you say? And he said, of course you can. 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.400 Of course you can use my B three because that's 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.600 what he should have said to me, Rise above it, 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.760 Rise above it. And I was like, wow, what a cool, 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.120 what a high level lesson you taught everybody. Instead of 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.920 here's the way this is gonna work, you know, he 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.199 did the opposite. And I was like, I want to 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.639 be like Wolf, uh not, not like anybody else. And 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.360 so I tried to be like that through all of it, 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.919 whether we were opening for someone or we were the headliner, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.280 and I try to make that environment like Wolf made 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.720 for everyone that we're on tour with, and it just 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.280 works better. It makes people have a better time that paid, 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.959 you know, hard earned money to be in those seats. 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:52.560 I love every artist that you're talking about that you're 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.000 touring with, and so I can tell the energy is 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.440 going to be wonderful. The new album is going to 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:03.080 be wonder full. I can't wait. I can't wait. And 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:07.919 you're starting, You're starting? When? What's the start? On June 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.960 eighth in Boston. So I'll see some you know, at 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.560 this point in my career, I know people in every city, 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.240 So I'll bring my golf clubs and and go to 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.679 barbecues and it'll be really good fun. So we'll start 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:26.320 on June eighth in Boston at the Exfinity Center. Uh, 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.840 and you know in in the Seattle area will play 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:34.439 the Climate Pledge Arena where the cracking play. Have you 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.600 been to a cracking game yet? Have not been to? 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:41.200 I haven't been anywhere since all this stuff really start taking. 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:45.080 Games are extraordinarily fun. Yeah, the cracking are kind of 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.720 taken over. You know, everybody was a twelve for a while, 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:53.119 and now I'm seeing the twelve shirts kind of replaced 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.840 with the crack and release the kracking, or at least 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.679 the cracking. Yeah, it's super fun. Well, so we'll be 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:05.160 here in the Seattle area on August August two at 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.280 the Climate Pledge and everywhere in between. Will be all 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:13.520 in l A. And we'll be in Bend, Oregon and uh, 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:18.000 like Tahoe and Denver and New York and Jersey, in Austin, 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.199 Texas and everywhere else. If you think, if you go 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:22.560 to save Me San Francisco dot com and you can 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.399 find all that out. So tell people why save Me 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:30.359 San Francisco. Why that was the name of our basically 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:33.720 our comeback album with Hay Soul Sister on it, and 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.159 the idea behind it was even though I live in 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:41.119 Seattle because my wife is from here, train came out 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.919 of San Francisco and we really lost touch with the 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:49.080 fact that you have to be a hometown banned a 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.680 hometown anything, and so Save Me San Francisco was our 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.240 way of asking for them to take us back, and 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:59.000 they did, and we created a wine and our label 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.400 is the Savy San franc Go Wine brand and we 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:06.679 donate uh those proceeds to our charity in San Francisco 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.639 called Family House. Every town has something like Children's Hospital 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.880 here in Seattle has a program like that like this, 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:20.080 but this is an eight room building that houses very 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:24.840 sick children and their families when they're getting mostly cancer 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:29.560 work and a lot of head trauma and and things 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:34.840 done at UCSF Hospital. And there low income families that 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:36.720 need a place to go. They have to quit their jobs. 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.160 You know, they're coming from Seattle, They're going there from 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.240 Alaska and everywhere else in the world. And it gives 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.560 them a chance to have some dignity and recollect themselves 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.800 so they can fight for their child's life like they 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:51.040 should be doing. And so that's where Saving San Francisco 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:54.520 came from. And if somebody wanted to order some wine, yeah, 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:56.440 you can go to save me san Francisco dot com 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.680 and get that done. And we just we just partnered 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.240 with uh Costco. And your why is one like a 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:07.400 hundred awards. It's it's not just like, you know, cheap, 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:12.959 it's not. It's good. It's really award winning delicious wine. 0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:16.000 I would you know, I've always been the kind of person, 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.080 uh where if you I just read this book which 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:23.560 confirms that I've been, you know, at least consistently doing 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:25.960 what I was hoping to read. This book that my 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:28.800 friend Matt Nathanson, who you know, has turned me onto. 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.880 It's called The Courage to Be Disliked. And in this 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:38.040 book it talks about you know, the need to uh, 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.959 the need to talk about all of your achievements is 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.800 such an insecurity. It's not it's not a power, and 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.520 so it's just better for other people to find out 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.280 about if the wine is good or not then for 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:54.440 me to tell people it's. Uh. It's just I think 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.320 you can hear the insecurities of people when they're telling 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.920 you all of the wonderfulness that they've done. And this 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:07.600 book was really intriguing and eye opening about that superiority 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:12.320 complexes are really inferiority complexes and uh, and so it's 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.120 a pretty fun book. If you already get a chance 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.439