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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Trump

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Speaker 1: is not dead, and neither is his cover up of

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Speaker 1: the Epstein files. Of the trump Stein files. Sorry if

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Speaker 1: you gave him a script and told him what to

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Speaker 1: do to reignite the Trumpstein tire fire. Every time it

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Speaker 1: begins to go out, that script would start with a

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Speaker 1: leak an anonymous statement to House Republicans considering signing the

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Speaker 1: Massy discharge petition to force release of the real files.

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Speaker 1: B make sure the statement reads as much like a

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Speaker 1: slightly sanded down threat from a mafia boss as possible.

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Speaker 1: Like quote helping Thomas Massey liberal Democrats with their attention

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Speaker 1: seeking while the DOJ is fully supporting a more comprehensive

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Speaker 1: file release effort from the Oversight Committee would be viewed

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Speaker 1: as a very hostile act to the administration. C actually

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Speaker 1: release only the same documents that Pam Bondi released to

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Speaker 1: the libs of TikTok worm Chayak and the DC Draino

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Speaker 1: dipshit in those two dollars sixty nine cent thin three

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Speaker 1: ring binders they bought at Staples in February, d send

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Speaker 1: a military flyover to try to drown out the Epstein

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Speaker 1: survivor's news conference on the steps of the Capitol yesterday.

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Speaker 1: E choose this moment, this moment to ask the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court to overturn the verdict where the Court found Trump

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Speaker 1: guilty of being liable for sexual abuse of e. Gene

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Speaker 1: Carroll and of defaming a sexual abuse victim. Do that

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Speaker 1: right now, This is the right moment for it. And

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Speaker 1: of course f sit there staring, fuming as this actual

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Speaker 1: bona fide, excellent comprehensive question, first of the year, is

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Speaker 1: rolled out in front of world media when you can

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Speaker 1: only come back with an answer that makes everybody think, wait,

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Speaker 1: Trump said that maybe maybe he is dead and he

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Speaker 1: just forgot to lie down.

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Speaker 2: There have been survivors, as Jeffery seeking at a press

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Speaker 2: conference on Capitol Hill, and they're calling for these case files,

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Speaker 2: these documents to realise.

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Speaker 1: And Thomas Messi, who is thought who is.

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Speaker 2: Especially a discarded physician to get the House to vote

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Speaker 2: to Luis to the documents, says he hasn't be you're

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Speaker 2: advocated in these files, but many of your friends and

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Speaker 2: donors maybe, And he says that's why the Justice Farman

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Speaker 2: is redacting them and slow walking the release. Is a

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Speaker 2: Justice Farman protecting any friends or donors.

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Speaker 3: So this is a Democrat hoax that never ends.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It reminds me.

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Speaker 1: A little of the Kennedy situation.

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Speaker 3: We gave him everything over and over again, more and

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Speaker 3: more and more, and nobody's ever satisfied. From what I understand,

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Speaker 3: I could check, but from what I understand, thousands of

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Speaker 3: pages of documents have been given. But it's really a

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Speaker 3: Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people to talk

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Speaker 3: about something that's totally irrelevant to the success that we've

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Speaker 3: had as a nation since I've been president.

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Speaker 1: Cool. Cool. Wherever Trump was the last week, it was

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Speaker 1: not at a retreat strategizing how to get him out

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Speaker 1: of whatever world ending revelation there is about him in

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Speaker 1: the Trump Stein files. Would work, was he Pam Bondi

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Speaker 1: says Trump is in the Epstein files. Elon Musk says

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Speaker 1: Trump is in the Epstein files. Countless others have said

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Speaker 1: previously Trump is in the Epstein files, and for legal reasons,

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Speaker 1: the survivors who spoke at the Capitol yesterday did not

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Speaker 1: But happily, Marjorie Taylor Green vowed to read the names

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Speaker 1: seems to be a direct connection here that the Trump

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Speaker 1: dictatorship has not figured out. Every time Trump calls trump

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Speaker 1: Larberry time a munched on. It's a hoax. An angel

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Speaker 1: gets its wings, and another survivor comes forward and vows

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Speaker 1: never to be quiet again and to send Trump more messages. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I don't like to I don't want to send a

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Speaker 1: direct message to him. I'm already scared enough. Ye just

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Speaker 1: pass the vote. Listen to us. This is not a hoax.

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Speaker 1: Like it's not gonna go away. And like I said

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Speaker 1: on my speech earlier, we are not going to be

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Speaker 1: We're not going to be silenced anymore. We will be

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Speaker 1: be and we need to pass this. The survivor's message

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Speaker 1: to Trump is in short, tick tick tick tick tick

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Speaker 1: ask me about my head. What was tragic was to

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Speaker 1: month ago, and played golf well He says he played golf,

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Speaker 1: says he did an interview with The Daily Caller for which,

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Speaker 1: fop Scott Jennings Tuesday morning, and he sounded like he'd

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Speaker 1: just been gargling battery acid. This is precisely how much

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Speaker 1: we truly know about Trump and the week one of

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Speaker 1: our presidents was missing. He's not dead. Currently. We don't

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Speaker 1: know about last week. We do know he did not

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Speaker 1: go to a retreat to strategize about Trumpstein. We can

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Speaker 1: infer that. We can also infer he didn't go to

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Speaker 1: a retreat to strategize about how to make Andrew Cuomo

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Speaker 1: yesterday Trump is considering appointing New York Mayor Eric Adams

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Speaker 1: and appointing the Republican nominee to replace him. Curtis I

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Speaker 1: have acute hat sliwa to the Trump administration in order

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Speaker 1: the primary, Zoran Mamdani. Now this is political genius because

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Speaker 1: it would force New York Republicans, who hate Cuomo more

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Speaker 1: so he can manipulate him by threatening to indict him

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Speaker 1: and reminding Democrats that the election is now a referendum

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Speaker 1: be that Trump is secretly working for Mamdani. Here. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's likely, but every time Trump does something

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Speaker 1: it becomes likely er. We also, no, Trump did not

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Speaker 1: spend the missing week at a psychiatrist's office trying to

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Speaker 1: address any of his two or three thousand mental problems.

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Speaker 1: He roared out of the gate insisting he has settled

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Speaker 1: seven wars. Seven wars. Again, he's got this idea in

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Speaker 1: his head. He's going to shove it down your throat.

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Speaker 1: George Conway wrote the best kind of satire about this,

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Speaker 1: A legit question that allows you to answer with snark.

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Speaker 1: He wrote, I wish somebody would ask him to specifically

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Speaker 1: list the seven or however many wars he claims to

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Speaker 1: have ended, and then hand him a map and ask

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Speaker 1: I have offered George the following answer. Here are the

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Speaker 1: seven wars Trump has settled. War are the Roses, War

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Speaker 1: of Attrition, War of the Worlds, War of the Planet

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Speaker 1: baseball Magnets, and of course War of world Craft. Well,

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Speaker 1: by the way, once again, if Trump were a paid

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Speaker 1: employee of Vladimir Putin, he could not be doing more

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Speaker 1: or better work for Putin. Let me read the Associated

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Speaker 1: right now, Putin says Trump's quote administration is listening to

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Speaker 1: the Kremlin's justifications for its invasion of neighboring Ukraine and

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Speaker 1: and he complained that former President Joe Biden paid Moscow's

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Speaker 1: it's noticeable, Putin said at a bilateral meeting with pro

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Speaker 1: if you're happy, we're happy. Putin's apparatics on state TV

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Speaker 1: The meeting took place on August fifteen, and four days later,

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Speaker 1: Why would Trump do it? Well, we need to remember

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Speaker 1: But there's something more baseline to this that it's useful

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Speaker 1: not want anybody to succeed. He wants whatever he can see,

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Speaker 1: or it may actually turn out okay, but it's his shit.

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Speaker 1: Destruction and construction are the same thing to Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: as long as the rubble is imprinted in gold letters

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Speaker 1: with just one word Trump. Robert F. Kennedy Junior is

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Speaker 1: Stephen Asmith announced the new weekly political show on a

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Speaker 1: satellite radio outfit. Apparently they announced it in the form

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Speaker 1: get a feature length out article out of the reporter

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Barr And by the way, that's the Washington Post,

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Speaker 1: which is the Steven A. Smith of newspapers. To be fair,

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Speaker 1: Barr asked him about his friendship with Sean Hannity. The question,

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Speaker 1: you've said, you've gotten some criticism of your twenty year

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Speaker 1: long friendship with Fox News host Sean Hannity on who

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Speaker 1: show you a pure Casely has that given you any pause? Answer?

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Speaker 1: Not even a little bit. It's made my friendship with

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Speaker 1: him more resolute because you're not going to tell me

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Speaker 1: how to think. As an interjection, who would waste their

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Speaker 1: time trying to get him to think? And how I

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Speaker 1: should feel? You feel, how thick your wallet is, that's

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Speaker 1: all you feel. There's plenty of people that have friends

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Speaker 1: in their lives that don't agree with their politics. This

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Speaker 1: isn't politics. This is existential about America, and you're going

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Speaker 1: on the wrong side of it. Steve, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: because it's Sean Hannity, it's supposed to be different. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear that crap. It gets in the

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Speaker 1: way of Stephen making money. He doesn't want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: That's nonsense. Where does that say it will get me

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Speaker 1: more money? He's a die hard conservative. I wish he

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Speaker 1: believes in free market capitalism and close borders and strong

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Speaker 1: national security and stuff like that. Stuff like that in

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Speaker 1: the Hannity world is dictatorship. By the way. He's not

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Speaker 1: some white nationalist or anything like that. Oh okay, Sean

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Speaker 1: doesn't roll like that. Oh my god, you say you

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Speaker 1: know him twenty years how come this has only come

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Speaker 1: up five years ago that you knew him? He went

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Speaker 1: on his show. Sean doesn't roll like that. I worked

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Speaker 1: with Steven A. Smith as recently a twenty nineteen and

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Speaker 1: there was not one goddamn mention of him being friends

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Speaker 1: with Sean Hannity. I know him, so I don't worry

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Speaker 1: about that. Candace Owens. He knows Candace Owens too and

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Speaker 1: doesn't worry about her. And you know, if it's all

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Speaker 1: about friends being agreeable with one another, then what kind

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Speaker 1: of real friendship is that. Well, you're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: have a friendship that doesn't end your career Stephen Steven

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Speaker 1: Hannity is so much worse a person than you could

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Speaker 1: possibly know. Your friend is playing you, if he is

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Speaker 1: your friend, if he's anybody's friend. I also see nothing

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Speaker 1: in this interview about Candice Owens and Smith praising her.

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Speaker 1: Then again, I didn't read the whole thing because I

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Speaker 1: canceled my Washington Post subscription a year ago, two years ago,

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Speaker 1: and I don't notice anybody asking Smith or Serious how

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Speaker 1: in the world they could in this time of the

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Speaker 1: wholesale slaughter of our children in school, in church, in school,

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Speaker 1: the slaughter of those kids two guns and a year

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Speaker 1: removed from the attempted shooting of a presidential candidate, and

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Speaker 1: the nation still teetering daily on mass gun violence. I

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Speaker 1: don't see the guy from the Washington Post asking him

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Speaker 1: or Serious or he's Stephen A. Smith. Why would they

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Speaker 1: be cold enough to name their new show Stephen A Smith,

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Speaker 1: straight shooter, Stephen run like hell. Frankly, this could easily

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Speaker 1: destroy your media career easily and quickly. The runner up

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Speaker 1: worser the man who is behind all those such destructions,

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Speaker 1: Trump or whoever was writing his stuff for him during

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Speaker 1: that week in which he spent in the Cone of

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Speaker 1: Silence the week in which he was Commander Pike from

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Speaker 1: the Star Trek Pilot. Remember the video posted under his

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Speaker 1: name during the Cone of Silence, I used at the

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Speaker 1: White House the most beautiful marble and stone available anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Surfaces are very important to me as a builder. Also,

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Speaker 1: he can't comprehend anything besides surfaces. As everyone knows, I

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Speaker 1: built many great buildings and other things over the years.

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Speaker 1: Actually I lived in one of those buildings and length

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Speaker 1: the day the warranty ran out, the elevator stopped running

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Speaker 1: and some of the electricity shut off and water started

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Speaker 1: to come out of the walls. But they were great

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Speaker 1: buildings at the White House. I am very proud of

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Speaker 1: the beautiful stone work we did in the Rose Garden.

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Speaker 1: That's where they paved it over and made it look

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Speaker 1: like a parking lot or worse like Mary Lago, in

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Speaker 1: this case using limestone plus the Rose Garden is completed

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Speaker 1: and far more beautiful than anyone ever had in mind

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Speaker 1: when it was conceived of decades ago. Three days ago,

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Speaker 1: while admiring the stone work, I happened to notice a

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Speaker 1: huge gash in the limestone that extended more than twenty

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Speaker 1: five yards long. It was deep and nasty. I started

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Speaker 1: yelling blah blah blah. And it turns out this is

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Speaker 1: like three hundred words about the marble that was used

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Speaker 1: and how the marble got damaged and the marble contractor

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Speaker 1: screwed up and marble Marble marble, which got this response

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Speaker 1: quote Trump is worried about literally losing his marbles, unquote,

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Speaker 1: just showing that any writer will steal anything from anybody.

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Speaker 1: I am obliged here to say I just stole that

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Speaker 1: from the guy who wrote it. Dan McLaughlin at Baseball

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Speaker 1: Crank on Twitter of the National Review Online, one of

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Speaker 1: the most venomous and dense of the far right magass clowns.

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Speaker 1: But dam Trump is worried about literally losing his marbles

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Speaker 1: is a great line. But our winner, Laura Loomer the worst.

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Speaker 1: There is one secret flex, one weapon of self defense

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Speaker 1: that was, is and always will be on our side.

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Speaker 1: It is the fact that for the Magats, there is

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Speaker 1: no yesterday. They cannot forget, no tomorrow. They cannot not

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Speaker 1: foresee if it serves their purpose. They are all Joe

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Speaker 1: Scarborough only dumber. They are truly nihilists, so they can

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Speaker 1: pretend to believe one thing one day and its exact

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Speaker 1: opposite thing tomorrow, or ultimately, when they run out of

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Speaker 1: things that don't contradict what they used to believe, they

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Speaker 1: believe in nothing. But it's more than that. It seems

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Speaker 1: to be a requirement to never even consider that what

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Speaker 1: you are boastfully criticizing somebody for, or something you're threatening

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Speaker 1: to do to somebody else may apply twice as much

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Speaker 1: to you, or to your president, or to your hero

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Speaker 1: or largely, I think this is because the other fascists

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Speaker 1: forget as fast as the speakers do, as the lead

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Speaker 1: fascists do. But still, you would think that if you

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Speaker 1: portray yourself as the Trump whisterberer, as the secret personnel

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Speaker 1: director at the White House, you would google before you shoot,

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Speaker 1: so you don't say something like this, Not Laura Lomer, No, sir.

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Speaker 1: The US district judge who blocked the Trump trafficking of

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Speaker 1: unaccompanied children back to Guatemala because they were at risk

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Speaker 1: of physical harm if they were forced to go back

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Speaker 1: to Guatemala. That judge is named Judge Sparkle Supnanan. Now

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Speaker 1: that's an unusual name, although I worked forty years ago

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Speaker 1: with a woman who became a prominent writer in Canada,

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Speaker 1: whose given first name was Sparkle. Sparkle we worked together

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Speaker 1: at CNN, so Sparkle is not as unusual a name

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Speaker 1: as you might think. Anyway, Judge Suk Nanon was born

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Speaker 1: in the nation of Trinidad and Tobago. Her education Hofstra

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Speaker 1: and Brooklyn Law, so she's closer to being a Native

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Speaker 1: American than Lumer is, who is from Tucson and Miami.

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Speaker 1: The libs of TikTok idiot, the one who still doesn't

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Speaker 1: realize she was used by Trump and Bondi with the

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Speaker 1: Epstein file folder that had nothing in it that they

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Speaker 1: just released again yesterday, she complained about Judge soup Nanon's origins,

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Speaker 1: so Lumer went full racist xenophobe. I mean, she is

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Speaker 1: full racist cenophobe. She just decided to put it on

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Speaker 1: social media this time. Laura Lumer, why do we allow

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Speaker 1: for foreigners to be judges in the US. It should

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Speaker 1: be legal to hold office in the United States if

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Speaker 1: you were not from the US. I'm sick of woke

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Speaker 1: foreign born judges destroying the US. Go back to Trinidad, uh, Laura.

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Speaker 1: Quick word about Judge Aileen Cannon. Remember her Trump's concierge

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Speaker 1: Judge the one who fixed the espionage documents case for

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Speaker 1: Trump last year. Judge Cannon, the one who threw herself

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Speaker 1: in front of justice in the United States, Judge Aileen

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Speaker 1: Cannon born nineteen eighty one in let's see Cleveland, Chicago, Cincinnati, Calli, Columbia.

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Speaker 1: Aileen Cannon born nineteen eighty one, Calli, Columbia, not District

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Speaker 1: of Columbia, Columbia, col Ombia. You could have googled that, Loomer.

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Speaker 1: But now shoot from the hip. And when you shoot

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Speaker 1: from the hip, remember the odds are six to five,

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Speaker 1: you will blow off part of your own as So, yes, Laura,

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Speaker 1: no more foreigners can be judges in the US, not

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Speaker 1: Judge Supnanan and not Judge Eileen Cannon. But remember, because

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Speaker 1: you asked for it, Laura. Also you're phrasing, why do

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Speaker 1: we allow for foreigners to be judges? That's not exactly

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Speaker 1: American English. Glomer moron and today's other worst person and

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Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough and his latest wife began their morning chat

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Speaker 1: show on MSNBC with a simpering, cowardly transparent words salad

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Speaker 1: that might as well have literally been we for two,

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Speaker 1: welcome our new insect overlords only that would have been funny.

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Speaker 1: Let me again mention that, in half a century of

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Speaker 1: working in newsrooms ranging from international ones to high school ones,

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Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough is easily the worst person I have ever known. Easily.

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Speaker 1: And I worked with David Letterman's blackmailer, and I worked

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Speaker 1: with a guy who later extorted George Steinbrenner and threatened

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Speaker 1: to break his legs. Joe Scarborough is better than either

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Speaker 1: of them. He is unique the lack of morals, of principles,

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Speaker 1: of scruples. That's not the result of a fractured brain

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Speaker 1: like say Trump. It's not the result of money needs

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Speaker 1: like the guy who blackmailed Letterman or the guy who

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Speaker 1: extorted Steinbrenner. It's a tool Scarborough uses that he has

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Speaker 1: used for at least twenty five years. Joe Scarborough was

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Speaker 1: a newt gangrich whore. Then he became a far right

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Speaker 1: pro torture wannabee. Then he was the supposedly reasonable conservative

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Speaker 1: who's on air persona covered up his endless internal sabotage

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Speaker 1: of everybody who was better than him at NBC. Then

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Speaker 1: he was the moderate political salon host in the mornings.

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Speaker 1: Then he was the guy who tried to mainstream Trump

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Speaker 1: and literally traveled to Trump to advise him and was

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Speaker 1: Trump's guy on real TV. And then when Trump didn't

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Speaker 1: choose him to be vice president, Scarborough decided the real

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Speaker 1: money was in bashing Trump, and so he turned on

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Speaker 1: him and bashed him and bashed him and bashed him

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Speaker 1: and called him hitler more than a year ago. And

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Speaker 1: when he called him hitler, it was the first time

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Speaker 1: I'd ever agreed with Joey scars But I knew, in

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Speaker 1: my god, he was just selling another product. See, there

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Speaker 1: are people who went confronted in their lives by Nazis

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Speaker 1: suddenly find themselves choosing to join the government of VSH France.

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Speaker 1: That's Jeff Bezos. That's not Joe Scarborough. Joe Scarborough has

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Speaker 1: always been a VSHI in search of Nazis to serve.

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Speaker 1: And after seven years, he'd actually managed to erase his past.

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Speaker 1: He'd virtually erased from his audience's memory any sense that

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Speaker 1: he tried to ram Trump down America's throat. In twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: and then suddenly Monday, he was announcing he and Mika

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Speaker 1: Brizhinsky had gone to marri Lago to try to open

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Speaker 1: a dialogue with Trump, and he then produced an amazing

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Speaker 1: imaginary moronic dialogue in which somebody else asked him, why

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Speaker 1: the hell would you do that? With the ludicrous answer

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Speaker 1: why the hell wouldn't you. The rhetorical answer to that,

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Speaker 1: of course, was contained in Mika Brzhinsky's part of this speech,

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Speaker 1: which was as close to an actual hostage video as

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Speaker 1: I have ever seen on actual television. The practical answer is,

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Speaker 1: of course, you don't do that, because then you have

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Speaker 1: just turned your network into collaboration. If he's Hitler and

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Speaker 1: you are now saying we must make a deal with him,

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Speaker 1: you are VC MSNBC, and everybody who works there who

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Speaker 1: does not say this is VC MSNBC is just as

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Speaker 1: guilty Rachel. Anyway, there are three plausible explanations I guess

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Speaker 1: equal plausibility for this. I'm not sure which is true.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure it matters. One NBC and MSNBC looked

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Speaker 1: at the post election Kamala Harris Saturday Night Live blowback

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Speaker 1: and the post election ratings, and since the networks are

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Speaker 1: run by people who do not understand news or political news,

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Speaker 1: and barely understand television, they panicked and told him to

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Speaker 1: do it. Or Scarborough looked at the ratings, and being

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Speaker 1: exactly as stupid as his bosses, he panicked and did

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Speaker 1: it himself. Or, as CNN reported Tuesday, he and the

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00:45:01,795 --> 00:45:05,195
Speaker 1: misses genuinely assessed the threats by Trump and they were

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Speaker 1: vulnerable and they'd have to do something to assuage Trump.

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Speaker 1: And of course just going there and saying zay, that

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Speaker 1: would hardly do it. But if they also told Trump,

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Speaker 1: we'll go back to sinewashing your presidency, only they didn't

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00:45:20,315 --> 00:45:23,795
Speaker 1: tell the audience that well that that would make more sense,

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00:45:24,195 --> 00:45:26,595
Speaker 1: that would be pure cowardice. Of course, it's the actual

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00:45:26,675 --> 00:45:31,075
Speaker 1: plot of George Orwell's nineteen eighty four. Maybe that last

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Speaker 1: one makes slightly more sense now in light of Tuesday

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Speaker 1: night's news that NBC is going to spin off its

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Speaker 1: news cable operations, finally separating the dead weight of NBC

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Speaker 1: News from what might still grow MSNBC and CNBC. I

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Speaker 1: begged them to do this as far back as nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety seven, for god's sakes. Also, you're a listener to

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Speaker 1: this podcast, and I'm the guy who writes it and

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00:45:55,195 --> 00:45:58,115
Speaker 1: reads it. The last few weeks, I haven't felt like

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Speaker 1: writing it and reading it, and you haven't felt like

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00:46:00,355 --> 00:46:03,355
Speaker 1: listening to it, or at least not as much. We're

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00:46:03,395 --> 00:46:08,515
Speaker 1: in mourning, we're in husbanding your resources mode, we're in recovery.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the ratings are going to be bad. Go

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00:46:11,195 --> 00:46:13,715
Speaker 1: look at Fox News' ratings at the end of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty and most of twenty twenty one. Did they fire

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Speaker 1: everybody and suddenly wind up with a Joe Biden show

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Speaker 1: in the morning? No, be professionals take the loss. Oh

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Speaker 1: your NBC. Oh MSNBC's only going to make a quarter

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Speaker 1: of a billion dollars. Oh, I'm so sorry. People should

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Speaker 1: be killed for that. Right, isn't that the law now?

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Speaker 1: Back at the Joey Scars level? The problem is, the

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Speaker 1: problems are Scarborough already burned down his anti Trump audience

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Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen and early twenty sixteen, Then he burned

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Speaker 1: down his new pro Trump audience in twenty sixteen and

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and all the years since, And now he's

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Speaker 1: gone back and burned down his anti Trump audience at Gin.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody left. The right never stopped hating him. The left,

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Speaker 1: which had just started to forget he was in Trump's

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Speaker 1: pocket for a year, hates him anew and now is

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Speaker 1: seeing that picture of him and Trump's standing there with

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Speaker 1: that idiotic thumb up their ass pose, which I keep

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00:47:24,555 --> 00:47:30,035
Speaker 1: tweeting every day. Just a coincidence. Joe resolved this dilemma,

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Speaker 1: namely that nobody wants to watch him anymore or go

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00:47:34,235 --> 00:47:36,635
Speaker 1: on his show by simply pretending none of it is

682
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Speaker 1: true and that everybody supports him, and anybody who disagrees

683
00:47:40,395 --> 00:47:44,235
Speaker 1: with him is disconnected from reality. And we have always

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Speaker 1: been at war with Ease Dansia. The other problem is

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Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough is a terrible person who has always thought

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Speaker 1: he could get away with it, often did always thought

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Speaker 1: he could blame somebody else, and has always done stuff

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00:47:59,155 --> 00:48:02,995
Speaker 1: exactly like this. And I'll get to that in a moment.

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Speaker 1: First reminding you of the pre it'sipal problem by having

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Speaker 1: Nancy Faust remind you that just cause you call a

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Speaker 1: guy hitler, maybe it didn't mean that hitler. Maybe it

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Speaker 1: meant the other Hitler, the singing hitler, the dancing hitler,

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Speaker 1: the hitler with a song in his heart, Oh, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps the most amazing thing about my ten years at

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Speaker 1: MSNBC was the fact that Joe Scarborough and his producers,

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Speaker 1: especially his chief henchmen ever got their own show on

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00:49:09,315 --> 00:49:12,835
Speaker 1: the air, because nobody I have ever worked with in

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Speaker 1: radio or television, in sports or news in the twentieth

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00:49:17,155 --> 00:49:21,315
Speaker 1: century or the twenty first ever spent more time trying

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Speaker 1: to screw with other programs on the same network than

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Speaker 1: did Joe Scarborough. And until just about the time I

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Speaker 1: left in twenty eleven, the guy he sent in to

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Speaker 1: do most of the sabotage for him was this henchman guy.

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Speaker 1: The reason this should matter to you now is Scarborough's

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Speaker 1: henchman was Chris Licked, the new president of CNN. And

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Speaker 1: if they scoured the nation to find the worst person

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Speaker 1: to run CNN in a time when democracy is threatened

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Speaker 1: by one political party and tepidly defended by another, it's

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Speaker 1: Chris Licked. I know, I know. You turn on the

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Speaker 1: TV and you see Joe Scarborough, and you see exactly

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Speaker 1: what I see. A blank day's darting, paranoid, no soul,

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00:50:07,555 --> 00:50:12,155
Speaker 1: stupid check engine light. Look. But if you don't trust me,

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Speaker 1: trust my scars. My Joey Scars behind that vapid face

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Speaker 1: is a master saboteur. Early in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: the late Tim Russert called me and warned me that

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Speaker 1: the GOP had upped its pressure on me. He said

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Speaker 1: he had heard from somebody in New York that somebody

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Speaker 1: in New York was going into the office of the

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Speaker 1: president of NBC News saying that Joe Scarborough couldn't get

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Speaker 1: his friend John McCain to come on to his new

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Speaker 1: Morning show because I was so critical of McCain on countdown.

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Speaker 1: Tim was not sure it was Scarborough, but if it wasn't,

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Speaker 1: who else could have gotten in to see the president

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Speaker 1: of NBC News other than Scarborough or his executive producer.

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Speaker 1: The evidence for the new CNN president, mister Licht, being

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Speaker 1: directly involved in interfering with programming to benefit somebody else's

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Speaker 1: friends or political cronies, was vague in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: but not at all vague two years later. Early in

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Speaker 1: January twenty ten, the Republican candidate to fill the Senate

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Speaker 1: seat of a late Ted Kennedy, Scott Brown, the former

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Speaker 1: semi nude model, was at a rally when one of

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Speaker 1: his supporters talked about quote, shoving a curling iron up

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Speaker 1: the backside of the Democratic Senate candidate Martha Cokeley. Scott

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Speaker 1: Brown clearly heard the remark from the crowd and responded, quote,

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Speaker 1: we could do that. On January eighteenth, on Countdown, I

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Speaker 1: did a brief commentary about how unsuitable Brown was for

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Speaker 1: public office. I said he was quote and irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary,

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Speaker 1: ex nude model, t bagging, supporter of violence against women

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Speaker 1: and against politicians with whom he disagrees unquote. I had

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Speaker 1: quotes from Brown. I had videotape of him disparaging his

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Speaker 1: minority opponent in a local election to her face at

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Speaker 1: a debate to back up what I said. An hour later,

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Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough commenced a tweet storm against me. Quote Olberman

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Speaker 1: calls Brown a homophobic, racist, reactionary who supports violence against women.

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00:52:15,515 --> 00:52:19,395
Speaker 1: How reckless and how sad. It's no longer enough to

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Speaker 1: simply disagree with someone. I'm sorry, I just fell into

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Speaker 1: my Scarborough impression. Just as when Beck called a president racist,

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Speaker 1: This sort of rhetorical extremism must be discouraged. It chapened

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Speaker 1: the debate. End quote and impression. Now, there was a

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Speaker 1: standing rule at MSNBC. You want to criticize another MSNBC personality,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, have a blast, but it must be on

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Speaker 1: the air. On MSNBC, and the other person must have

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00:52:48,595 --> 00:52:51,955
Speaker 1: an opportunity to reply in real time in the same

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Speaker 1: show or in some kind of face to face way.

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Speaker 1: No hit and run, no Joe Scarborough tweetstorms. If you

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Speaker 1: criticize them by name or by inference in any other

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Speaker 1: medium newspaper, inner, radio, social media, you were to receive

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Speaker 1: an automatic suspension. The next day, January nineteenth, I called

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Speaker 1: the president of MSNBC, Phil Griffin, and I asked how

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Speaker 1: long Joe Scarborough's automatic suspension was going to be. Griffin

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Speaker 1: asked me to come into the office a little earlier

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Speaker 1: than usual and to go see him. He said he

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Speaker 1: had already had a meeting about the tweets that morning

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Speaker 1: with Scarborough's executive producer, Chris Licht. Griffin explained that Scarborough,

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Speaker 1: according to Licht, considered Scott Brown a friend. More importantly,

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Speaker 1: Chris lickt warrened Griffin that if Griffin followed through and

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Speaker 1: enforced the suspension rule, Scarborough would have no other option

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Speaker 1: than to go to the press and tell reporters, especially

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Speaker 1: reporters at right wing websites like Tucker Carlson's The Daily Caller,

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Speaker 1: that he Scarborough had been suspended because he Scarborough was

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Speaker 1: a conservative, but I was a liberal, and that I

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Speaker 1: and not Phil Griff ran MSNBC. What can I do?

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Speaker 1: Griffin was scared. I told him he could fire Scarborough

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Speaker 1: and Licked because they had just tried to blackmail him

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Speaker 1: and eventually he was going to have to fire them

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Speaker 1: both anyway, but that I knew he would not do this,

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Speaker 1: and that I knew now that he would not suspend

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Speaker 1: Scarborough either, And Griffin did not suspend him. Partial score

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Speaker 1: Scarborough's friends two MSNBC's rules of behavior nothing, but Phil

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Speaker 1: Griffin did send out a memo to the entire company

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Speaker 1: insisting that anybody who criticized another MSNBC show or host

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Speaker 1: in another medium would be suspended, except Scarborough, who had

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Speaker 1: just done exactly that and then threatened his own employers.

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Speaker 1: On January twenty fifth, Brian Stelter's old blog TV newser

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Speaker 1: got a copy of Griffin's memo. They wondered why Scarborough

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Speaker 1: had not been suspended, so they called the MSNBC president

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Speaker 1: and then they printed quote Griffin responded to TV news

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Speaker 1: or quote, an important rule was broken. I spoke to

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Speaker 1: Keith and he said, in the spirit of teamwork and

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Speaker 1: the free flow of ideas. He didn't think it warranted

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Speaker 1: punishment or suspension. I also talked to Joe and he

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Speaker 1: apologized to me. That's why I made the decision that

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Speaker 1: this didn't rise to the level of punishment, but I

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Speaker 1: felt it was necessary to reiterate my long standing policy

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent bull crap. Reiterate my long standing policy

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Speaker 1: which I just did not enforce against Joe Scarborough. The

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00:55:35,195 --> 00:55:38,755
Speaker 1: whole thing was totally fabricated. Lickt and Scarborough had threatened

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Speaker 1: to smear their own bosses in the right wing echo chamber.

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Speaker 1: Should have been both fired on the spot. In May

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Speaker 1: twenty ten, Scarborough said something on the air about a

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Speaker 1: Democrat getting away with not being investigated for something. I

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Speaker 1: forget the details. I didn't bother to look it up.

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Speaker 1: You can if you want. Then Marcos Malitsus, the editor

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Speaker 1: of the Daily Coast website and not just a regular

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Speaker 1: contributor to Countdown, but somebody who had been voting the

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Speaker 1: show and the MSNBC brand on that website every day

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00:56:09,195 --> 00:56:13,595
Speaker 1: for five years. Marcos sent a snarky but legitimate tweet

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Speaker 1: questioning Scarborough's credentials to criticize others who had not been

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Speaker 1: investigated for stuff. Marcos invoked the staffer who died in

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Speaker 1: an accident in Joe Scarborough's congressional office. Scarborough then attacked

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Speaker 1: Melitsus on Twitter, inaccurately claiming Malitsus had accused Scarborough of murder.

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Speaker 1: A few days after that, I got a phone call

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Speaker 1: from the MSNBC president, Phil Griffin. And if he got

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Speaker 1: a phone call rather than a call to come into

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Speaker 1: his office, you know he was really scared. Griffin told

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Speaker 1: me Chris lickt has been in to see me. Joe

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Speaker 1: won't put up with having Marcus Malitzus on his network anymore.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but Lick says many of Joe's friends

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Speaker 1: who also appear in Dayside and Primetime won't come on

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Speaker 1: if Marcos Malitsus is permitted to continue. Here, Chris is

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Speaker 1: insisting that Marcos be banned from MSNBC immediately. Chris says

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Speaker 1: he's afraid that if we don't do that, Joe won't

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Speaker 1: come into work tomorrow. Upon hearing that, I laughed and

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Speaker 1: I congratulated Phil Griffin on the clear win win he'd

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Speaker 1: just been given. But Phil was very bad at enforcing

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Speaker 1: MSNBC's rules, but very good at creating new ones on

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Speaker 1: the spot. To protect Joe Scarborough and Chris Lickt and

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Speaker 1: their friends. I'm banning the Lizzes from any further appearances

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Speaker 1: on MSNBC. I said, Phil, he's a contributor to my show.

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Speaker 1: You are suspending my contributor who has driven hundreds of

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Speaker 1: thousands of viewers to count Down at MSNBC, and I

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Speaker 1: don't have any say in it. You are owned by

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Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough and Chris Lickt. What you now have to

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Speaker 1: worry about is whether I tell this story on the

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Speaker 1: air tonight or I just wait and tell it later.

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Speaker 1: Phil now got conciliatory because he was scared again and

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Speaker 1: said it could be just a suspension if I cooperated.

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Speaker 1: So I called Marcos. He said he enjoyed his contributions

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Speaker 1: to Countdown. He also did occasional appearances on the old

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Speaker 1: Ed Schultz MSNBC show, and he said if there were

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Speaker 1: chants at resuming them, he'd preferred to at least try that.

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Speaker 1: So Marcus and I went along with Griffin suspending Marcus Malitzus,

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Speaker 1: and to my knowledge, Marcus Malitzus has not been seen

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Speaker 1: on MSNBC since. I wish I had better notes on

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Speaker 1: some of my conversations from the two thousand and eight, nine,

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Speaker 1: ten eleven era about those conversations with the hosts and

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Speaker 1: the producers of the other shows like Schultz and Rachel

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Speaker 1: Maddow's show, and even Chris Matthews and Hardball. I must

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Speaker 1: needs to make sure we lay off him Chris Licked.

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Speaker 1: It was usually an expletive in the middle between Chris

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Speaker 1: News President Steve Kappus with an actual list of Republicans

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Speaker 1: that Mattow and Olberman needed to stop criticizing because they

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Speaker 1: hurting morning. Joe. I've done all the damage I can

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Speaker 1: do here. Thank you for listening. Most of our Countdown

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Speaker 1: John Phillips Chanel. They are the musical directors of Countdown.

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Speaker 1: It was produced by Tko Brothers, mister Ray on guitars,

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Speaker 1: satirical and pithical again, for some reason, I want to

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Speaker 1: say satirical and pithical. Our satirical and pithy musical comments

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Speaker 1: are made by the best baseball stadium organist ever, Nancy Faust.

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Speaker 1: And maybe I need to get Nancy to read this

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Speaker 1: script next time instead of me. The Olderman theme from

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Speaker 1: ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis Curtesy of ESPN, Inc.

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Speaker 1: Is the sports music other music arranged and performed by

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Speaker 1: the group No Horns Allowed. My announcer today is my

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Speaker 1: friend Larry David, and everything else was as always my fault.

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Speaker 1: That's Countdown for today, Day two hundred and twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Of America held hostage just two hundred and forty four

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Speaker 1: days until the scheduled end of his lame duck and

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Speaker 1: lame brained term. Unless he is removed sooner by MAGA

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Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein, or by the pavement on his hand

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Speaker 1: or my commander pike, they just leave him somewhere where

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Speaker 1: he can frolic The next scheduled countdown is Let's see

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Speaker 1: Monday till then. I'm Keith Olverman. Good morning, good afternoon, goodnight,

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Speaker 1: and good luck. Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production

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