1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Play Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: and your family of very mary Christmas and a happy 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: New year. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Buck Sexton, Here, the entire Clay and Buck Show wish 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: you and your family a warm Christmas season and a 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: joyful new year. All right, welcome back in here to 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck. So we've got much to discuss, my friends, 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: including what's going on on Capitol Hill here with the 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Venezuela boat strikes. Now, we're gonna have more for you 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: shortly on the FBI arrest situation of the pipe bomber. 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: We're following that story as closely as we can. Everyone's 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: essentially and wait and c mode until this FBI press conference. 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: This is going to be the next hour. 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: We also have Secretary of Transportation Duffy on and we're 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: looking forward to that conversation. 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: So we got a lot. 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: And I think we have Steve Scalise next hour, House 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Majority Leader Scalise, so we got we got a lot 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: going on. We can talk to him about the pipe 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: bomber for sure. As well as you remember Steve Scalise, 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: somebody who knows left wing political violence all too well, 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: as he had to fight for his life after he 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: was shot by a maniac at a baseball field in Alexandria, 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: Virginia who was screaming this is for healthcare, right, and 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: we all remember that this is for healthcare and he's 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: shooting at people who were defenseless. 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: After also, Buck remember asking are those republic public art 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: Democrats like because they were just playing baseball, you didn't 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: know who you know, they were warming up on a field. 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't like you could really tell who they were. Yes, exactly. 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: So that's where we are on that story. 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: We're waiting to hear more from the FBI, but we'll 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: speak to Steve Scalise about that. In the meantime, you 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: know that this has become now the primary attack on 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: the administration. This is all the different anti Trump news outlets. 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: They're the main thing that they are covering right now. 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: Is this in fact it even overshadowed? You know, there 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: were some Epstein stuff that was released. Nothing is some photos. 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Do you see this? 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: Nobody even really paid very much attention to it in 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: the media. It wasn't anything of particular interest, be honest, 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: from what I saw. There's a lot more I think 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: that's coming out, But this is the story, right now. 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: So here is what is at issue, as we have discussed. 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: I believe in Clay has believed all along here based 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: upon the facts is presented to us that Secretary Hegseth 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: and those below him in the chain of command acted lawfully. 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: Okay. 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: But there is also an understanding here that there is 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: a situation in which it is possible that you can 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: be in a situation where you cannot just like finish 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: off the survivors of a strike. That is also a thing. 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: I think both sides have agreed on that, and I 54 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: think that's important because I see some people say, if 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: they were, you know, cleaning the wreckage and they were 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: knocked out unconscious, we could just mow them down. No, 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: But if they were still in the fight, meaning if 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: they were still actively communicating with the drug cartels and 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: trying to salvage the drugs and trying to basically continue 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: the mission, it is what it is. And then you 61 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: continue on. Here's ABC's Martha Radditz on this play as 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: she's obviously a Trump hater, but you know, this is 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: what she said. 64 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: Play three tonight. New information. 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: According to a source familiar with the incident, the two 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike, 67 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: they were believed to be potentially in communication with others 68 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it 69 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets, 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: and JAG officer was also giving legal advice. So again, David, 71 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: that video will be key and Admiral Bradley will be 72 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: on the hill tomorrow behind closed doors. 73 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: So they have released the video and if as has 74 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: been re ordered there that is true, this story's gonna vanish. 75 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: So we'll see. You know, there may be some dispute 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: about what in the fight still looked like and again 77 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: how high quality is the video version of this, but 78 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: this would seem to be a pretty clear validation of 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: the decision that was made, as well as legal having 80 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: been there and signed off as you know, watching the 81 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: incident saying yes there's still enemy combatants, Yes you can 82 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: take this action. That seems to me to be kind 83 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: of an open and shut case. So we will see 84 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: whether this starts to vanish. What I would say is 85 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: in the new studio that I have here Buck, the 86 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: ability to drive narrative on CNN or MSNBC, you can 87 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: kind of judge whether they think they got something. They're 88 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: already pulling back on their coverage of this strike now 89 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: that the videos out there, now that more details are 90 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: being released, it feels to me like the Washington Post 91 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: story over promised, the video has under delivered what they 92 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: said it would, and we're on to whatever the next 93 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: controversy is inside of the Trump administration. 94 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: I think you said this earlier in the week, and 95 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: I believe it was astute observation that this is turning 96 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: into a little bit of a Kilmar Abrego Garcia situation 97 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: for them, where the Democrats, to people who are paying attention, 98 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: the Democrats are going to the mat in order to 99 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: take the side on these issues. I know they would 100 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: say of like the Geneva Conventions and human rights. But 101 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: if a drug car tells yes, which are killing Last year, 102 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: I think it was like eighty ninety thousand, that's right, 103 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: but something approaching one hundred. The worst years have been 104 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: in the low one hundred thousand range. It's far too 105 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: many people. And I also think it's important to remember 106 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: it's not just the people who die. Lives are shattered 107 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: just by the addiction defendant all think about the families 108 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: that are destroyed. Think about the criminality, the criminal enterprises, 109 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: the drug turf wars that happen. We look at that number, 110 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: it's like looking at murders in a city. You know, 111 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: the murders give you a sense, but don't cover the 112 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: whole totality of Oh, this city has far too many 113 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: assaults and rapes and robberies and everything else going on. 114 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: The drug war isn't just about overdoses, although that's the 115 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: most you know, poignant and destructive aspect of it. There's 116 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: a whole lot of other secondary effects that are horrible 117 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: and people are tired of it. And my point here, Clay, 118 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: is that once again you have Democrats who are like, 119 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: hold on, we need to make sure it's not so 120 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: hard for the cartels to bring the drugs into America. 121 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: That's you're being too harsh with the cartels, And a 122 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: lot of Americans are saying, yeah, I don't know about that. 123 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Who you pick as your face of any argument is huge. 124 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: And again I said, the you know, the plaintiff, the 125 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: name plainiff in a case is always a huge part. 126 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: For anybody out there that files a lawsuit class action, 127 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: they try to find the most sympathetic plaintiff out there, 128 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: the one that is going to pull at the heart 129 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: strings that is going to make people say, wait a minute, 130 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: are we really doing the right thing here? And we 131 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: told you part of the deportation of illegal immigrants, they 132 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: are going to focus on the mom, the little girl 133 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: that the heart string issues. But then they blew it. 134 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: Then they were like, hey, actually, do you know how 135 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: aggressive this thing is. Kilmar Abreo Garcia a human trafficking 136 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: drug smuggling illegal who his wife had to call the 137 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: police on because he was allegedly beating her up. He's 138 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: being forced out of the country and people are like, yeah, okay, 139 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: and it didn't really land. And now Democrats are going 140 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: to make the face of Trump's combat combating of illegal 141 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: drugs coming into the country. A couple of narco terrorists 142 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: in Venezuela who we were too mean to. There's a 143 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: tough sell, remember or was it Linda who called in? Uh? 144 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: That? 145 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Linda's like were they were? 146 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: They floating around with little floaties like in a pool. 147 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 5: Blow them up, take them out. I don't care. On 148 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 5: the Oh, they're doing a backstroke. I saw a backstroke. Yeah, 149 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 5: another missilenother missile. 150 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: Wax them and everybody. I don't even think anybody came 151 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: like everybody was in Linda's defense. We got loaded. I 152 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: don't think we should go track down some of those talkbacks, 153 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: but it looks like Linda's being vindicated here WAX. I 154 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: gotta say, we did I did not get, I did 155 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: not see and we This is the great thing you guys, 156 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: you're You're all a part of the conversation whenever you 157 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: send in a talkback and email or even just talk 158 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: to producer Greg if you want to get online, because 159 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: that all gets Clay and are talking about in the breaks, 160 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: we read it, we see it. I don't think I 161 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: saw anybody who was calling out Linda, like you know 162 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: what to say. Nobody was like, how dare she? 163 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 6: A lot of people are like kind of with Linda. 164 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 165 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: No. 166 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: I think it is really very funny in many ways 167 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: that the things that they think are going to rally 168 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: their base actually often rally the Trump base instead. And 169 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: part of it is just not understanding basic narrative. And 170 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: I've talked about this for a long time. If you 171 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: are a student of history, this is obviously what sixty 172 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: seventy years ago now. But they waited on the Montgomery 173 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: bus boycotts until they had the right face of the 174 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: Montgomery bus boycotts, which was Rosa Parks. If you go 175 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: back and study that era, they actually arrested a young 176 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: single mother who refused to give up her seat before 177 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: Rosa Parks did it, and the civil rights leaders, including 178 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Junior, said no, no, no, no. The single mom 179 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: who is unmarried is not the right face of the 180 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: bus boycott. We want Rosa Parks to be the face 181 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: of this boycott. So she wasn't even the first who 182 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: refused to give up her seat. That turned into the 183 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: beginnings of the civil rights movement in the South. Back 184 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: in Montgomery, Alabama in the day, they looked at it 185 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: and they were waiting for what they thought was the 186 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: most sympathetic plaintiff, the best face of their of their 187 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: argument that they could find. And I just I look 188 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: at some of this stuff and I just say, who 189 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: is making these decisions on messaging for the Democrat Party. 190 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: They're really just poor at even making the cases that 191 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: they're trying to make. 192 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 2: Sometimes you just gotta bring in somebody like Linda is 193 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: gonna say, light them up, light them up. 194 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: That's it. I've had enough of these clowns. 195 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 4: You know. 196 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: This is also at night. 197 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: We sleep soundly at night because Linda stands on that wall, 198 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: smoking that stogy, saying enough enough. 199 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: Colonel Linda, jessup out there. We talked about this before. 200 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: Who's tougher. Who's tougher in your house in discipline? You 201 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: or your wife? 202 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: Oh it's not it's not even not even close. 203 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: It's the Carrie is way. 204 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: And this is also dealing like with anyone who's trying 205 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: to play any funny business with us, like a contractor 206 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: or something comes up. I just kind of want to 207 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: always pull them aside and be like, look, you really 208 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: want to deal with me? 209 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah you don't. You don't want me to bring you, 210 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: don't hear you carry you? I am the softie in 211 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: this house. If you you do not want Laura as 212 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: the on the wall making decisions you don't want to be, 213 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm the hostas negotiator Carrie. 214 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: Carrie is the CT team that goes in with flash bangs, 215 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: like it's just a different deal. 216 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: You want to deal with me? If you miss the 217 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: Linda who people love and Linda may be listening right now, Linda, 218 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: we will play what she said as she is now 219 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: being vindicated, but she was fine even you know, like 220 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: like Buck said that these guys could have been uh 221 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: you know with the floating around on noodles with nothing left. 222 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: He's like, just wax them. 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We are monitoring the soon to be 248 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: press conference from the FBI about an arrest in the 249 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: DC pipe bomb case. We will keep you updated on 250 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: that in DC as well. We are joined now by 251 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: Secretary Sean Duffy. I am headed to DC a little 252 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: bit later this afternoon for the big event at the 253 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: Kennedy Center tomorrow with the World Cup coming to the 254 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: United States. It is going to be an incredible scene. 255 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: I know there are many different things that you are 256 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: working on on a variety of different arenas every single day, 257 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: but this is a fun one. Secretary Sean Duffy with 258 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: us right now, what should we know about this big 259 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: event that is starting in June and will officially be 260 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: laid out bracket style to a large extent tomorrow. 261 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 7: So first off, when you imagine you're flying here, you're 262 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 7: not driving, so hopefully your flight is going to be 263 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 7: not delayed on time. You're going to be you know, 264 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 7: perfect air time. I can't control the weather, but beyond that, 265 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 7: hopefully you're in a good place. 266 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 6: Listen. So this is exciting. 267 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 7: So tomorrow we'll have thousands of people, including yourself at 268 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 7: the County Center. 269 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 6: I'm going to be there as well, but. 270 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 7: A billion people tune in for the draw around the 271 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 7: world to see, you know, what team is going to play, 272 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 7: what team, where it's going to be, you know, fantastic. 273 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 7: Donald Trump is going to be there, that President of 274 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 7: Mexico is going to be there as well. 275 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 6: So that's really exciting. 276 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 7: And as we look to the summer again we're celebrating 277 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 7: in America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. Exciting, and the 278 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 7: World Cup is going to come. There'll be eleven million 279 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 7: people that fly into the country to watch the games. 280 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 6: And again from my. 281 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 7: Perspective, and why is DOT involved, Well, we're one of 282 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 7: the most important aspects. So not only welcoming foreign travelers 283 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 7: into the country, working with Christy Nome and Marco Rubio 284 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 7: to make it a seamless experience, but then they're flying 285 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 7: between host cities, they're taking trains, buses, and then in 286 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 7: the cities, making sure the transit actually works, buses, railcars, tracks. 287 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 7: To make sure that we get all of these spectators 288 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 7: into the facilities and then back out out again, do 289 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 7: it safely, do it seamlessly. This is our opportunity to 290 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 7: showcase America on our great birthday. And so listen, we've 291 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 7: been working for shift nine months on this thing to 292 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 7: make sure that all of our teams are working together 293 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 7: in resources and assets are deployed to make sure it's 294 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 7: a great experience for what is going to be a 295 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 7: global event. 296 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: What kind of money, Secretary Duffy, does this bring into 297 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: the country. What are some of the estimates about the 298 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: economic activity and just all of that side of things. 299 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 7: I don't have those numbers, but listen, this is billions 300 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 7: of dollars that come in. You fill up, you fill 301 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 7: up hotels, you fill up planes, restaurants, and then you. 302 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 6: Know there's there's time between you know, each of the matches. 303 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 7: So there's an opportunity for foreigners who might might might 304 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 7: become to America for the first time to go out 305 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 7: and see our beautiful country. 306 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 6: A lot of places to to. 307 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 7: Go, check out and to where as you're you know, 308 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 7: waiting for the next match. So again many billions of dollars. 309 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 7: This is going to impact the country. And so it's 310 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 7: that that part of it's huge. By the way, can 311 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 7: I take you mean Donald Trump loves sports right whether 312 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 7: he's going you know, to basketball, football, but so not 313 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 7: as we have the we have the World Cup going 314 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 7: on during the two hundred and fifteth birthday, he has 315 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 7: a UFC cage match first time at the White House 316 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 7: going on as well. So it's going to be a 317 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 7: lot of fun but a huge economic revenue driver for 318 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 7: the country. 319 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 6: And by the way, so. 320 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 7: You have people coming into to watch soccer, but you know, 321 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 7: who knows how many times they come back to go 322 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 7: this is a great experience in America. 323 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 6: And I think here's the problem. 324 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 7: We have a lot a lot of people are on 325 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 7: the world who have said, am I welcome to come 326 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 7: to America. They've seen that people have overstayed their visas 327 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 7: or they've come here legally and we've tried to deport them. 328 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 7: We've taken those who haven't come, awfully, we've sent them out. 329 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 7: That doesn't mean we don't want people to come. Of course, 330 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 7: we want people to come. We want them to come 331 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 7: the right way and come and visit and come and 332 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 7: see all we have to offer, and then follow our rules. 333 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 7: And there's a timeline in which they get their visas 334 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 7: and you know which will be well after the games 335 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 7: have ended and they can head home. But so now 336 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 7: we want people to come. 337 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: For people who don't know. And I've been doing my 338 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: research on this because I turn into a pretty decent 339 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: soccer fan every four years, because I'm a big sports fan. 340 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: There are one hundred and four games I believe that 341 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: are going to be played. We're talking Department of Transportation 342 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: Secretary Sean Duffy. The vast majority of those games going 343 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: to be played in the United States, and there are 344 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: now forty eight teams that are going to that are 345 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: going to be involved in the World Cup. They've expanded 346 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: it from thirty two. Tomorrow we will find out which 347 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: of the twelve groups of for the United States is 348 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: in among other countries. Do you know what President Trump's 349 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: role is going to be tomorrow? It's taking place at 350 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: the Kennedy Center. This is in many ways a Trump production. 351 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports is going to be putting it on. Like 352 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: you said, I'll be there. There'll be a ton of 353 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: us there. What do you know about the event tomorrow? 354 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 6: So I'll get to that in a second. 355 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 7: But again, there's sixteen host cities, eleven or in the 356 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 7: United States. We are the main the main host, and 357 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 7: so it's going to be a big production. Again, I'm 358 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 7: going as well. I hear it's like red carpet and 359 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 7: everyone's coming in and it's the production value. And by 360 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 7: the way, no one produces events like this better than 361 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 7: Donald Trump. I think he's maybe a master of ceremonies. 362 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 7: I'm going to address the crowd, you know, before the 363 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 7: draws happen. And again he's the most famous person in 364 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 7: the world, and to be there lending his name the 365 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 7: presidency to this great event, I think makes it that 366 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 7: much more exciting interesting. But again, the world tunes in 367 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 7: because they're excited to see you know what group they're 368 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 7: going to be in. You know who they're gonna play. 369 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 7: And do I have an easy bracket, a hard bracket. 370 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 7: You know what are you know? What's uh? What's my 371 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 7: prospects now for my team to prevail in the World Cup? 372 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 7: So again the details, I'm showing up occupying no more 373 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 7: than I mean, I Clay, you know more than I do. 374 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 6: I'm coming, but I don't know. 375 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 7: I'm I'm just I'm bringing my scarf and I'm gonna 376 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 7: be there and I'm gonna enjoy the festivities and uh 377 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 7: and and pick it up like you will. 378 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: Secretary Sean Duffy with us now Secretary of Transportation. And 379 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure this is your favorite question, mister secretary. I'm 380 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: sure that everywhere you go, when everyone realizes who you 381 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: are and you're asking what's up? 382 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 6: My favorite question is a bad lead up to the. 383 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I trust me. 384 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: So how are we doing with the whole fixing air 385 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: traffic control and making planes go on time? 386 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: Mister secretary? 387 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: You know this is something near and dear to everybody 388 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: who flies all over the Country's heard, and I'm sure 389 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: people ask you. I'm sure you get asked at the 390 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving table, you get asked to the airport when you're flying, 391 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: what's going on with it? 392 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 6: No? 393 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 7: Better yet, anyone who has my cell number when they're delayed, 394 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 7: I get attacked. 395 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, like, hey, I'm delayed, and how we're delayed? 396 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 7: Like, come on, I'm like this very special text. Thank 397 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 7: you for sending that to me. No, so I appreciate 398 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 7: the question. So I laid out shoot six months ago, 399 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 7: how old and antiquated are our air traffic control system is? 400 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 7: And it is we're using, you know, some iteration of 401 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 7: nineteen sixties, seventies, eighties equipment software from the nineties. And 402 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 7: so I was given twelve and a half billion dollars 403 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 7: in the Big Beautiful Bill. 404 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 6: It's a big deal. It's a lot of money. 405 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 7: I need another twenty billion, But with that twelve and 406 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 7: a half billion dollars, we've already started. So you know, 407 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 7: we have copper, we have to transition to fiber. We've 408 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 7: already completed over thirty percent of those transitions since I 409 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 7: got the money from the Big Beautiful Bill. Now that 410 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 7: doesn't mean because I have fiber, I've switched from analog 411 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 7: to digital. That's another step we're going to announce later today. 412 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 7: We're going to pick an integrator that's going to run 413 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 7: the whole operation. We'll have one paycheck to write one 414 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 7: throat to choke. The mission is don't break the national airspace. 415 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 7: Number one and number two, make sure that you deliver 416 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 7: this on time, which is by the end of twenty 417 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 7: twenty eight, So we have a three year window. New radios, 418 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 7: new radars, new voice switches, and all new telecom. That's 419 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 7: the foundation that we build off of. A we need 420 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 7: a new software system. Once I get the money for that, 421 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 7: I'll be able to start developing, debugging, and then deploying it. 422 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 7: That's what's going to really change the way the airspace works. 423 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 7: And so if you look forward five ten years, we're 424 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 7: going to double triple the capacity of the use of 425 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 7: our airspace. We have drones, we have these evatols, the 426 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 7: ubers in the air. You might have seen videos of those. 427 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 7: More air travel see Is that really n. 428 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: I got to jump in on this because I just 429 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: saw something about the Miami Palm Beach Corridor, so that 430 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: really peaked my entry. Are we going to have air 431 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: taxis on certain routes during this Trump administration's term? 432 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: Is that going to happen? 433 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 6: Percent? 434 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 7: And I think they're safer and quieter and cheaper than 435 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 7: helicopter So yeah, I know that's you're going to move 436 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 7: people more seamlessly through the airspace with with these air taxis. 437 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 6: UH to use that phrase. 438 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 7: And yes, the airspace aviation really hasn't changed in the 439 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 7: last seventy years eighty years. 440 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 6: This I mean with drone deliveries. 441 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 7: You're gonna be able to get a hot cup of 442 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 7: coffee your door dash a delivery if you've forgot some 443 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 7: of the grocery store or you need medicine. Three and 444 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 7: a half to five pound deliveries going to change the 445 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 7: way products are delivered. The way we move with these 446 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 7: with these air taxes is fairly inexpensive, and they move 447 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 7: seamlessly through the airspace, giving you access from one neighborhood 448 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 7: to to a city location. Or you look at again 449 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 7: this the east coast of Florida. Moving people along that 450 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 7: corridor really I think critical going to change the way 451 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 7: that people can live in that part of the country. 452 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 7: And then we also have autonomous vehicles on the horizon 453 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 7: as well. That's going to change the way people move 454 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 7: as well, how they purchase cars, how our systems are safer, 455 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 7: and our job is to make sure that I call 456 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 7: it my Goldilocks theory. 457 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 6: We can have regulations that go. 458 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 7: Too fast because if bad things happen, we get set back. 459 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 7: If I go too slow, the innovators will go to 460 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 7: places like China, and then China will send us Chinese technology, 461 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 7: and you don't want Chinese technology on an autonomous vehicle, 462 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 7: in your drones or in your vetols. They'll gather a 463 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 7: ton of information. It's a national security play. So we 464 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 7: have to get it just right. The porridge has to 465 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 7: be just right, and that's what we're trying to accomplish now. 466 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 7: But you're going to see these in the next three years. 467 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 7: All you're going to have access to all of these 468 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 7: new opportunities in aviation and in autonomous vehicles. One last 469 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 7: thing boom technology for supersonic flight. It used to be 470 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 7: over just water. Technology now will allow you to fly 471 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 7: over land and that that boom or ricochet off the 472 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 7: atmosphere and not hit the ground, so you can have 473 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 7: those fast flights without having you know, windows break, you 474 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 7: know somewhere in Missouri. 475 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: That's super interesting too, because I've been seeing that they want. 476 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: You know, people remember the Concord and how quickly you 477 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: could go from the East coast to Europe and you know, 478 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: four hours, five hours. Best case. Now, this new boom 479 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: technology that you're talking about, I've been reading about it. 480 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: It would theoretically could become standard in the next generation 481 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: where you could get to Europe, you could fly across 482 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: the Atlantic in four hours, and it could become much 483 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: more standard. One one question for you as as you 484 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: go out and we appreciate the time Department of Transportation 485 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: Secretary Sean Duffy with US air traffic controllers there are 486 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: there have been a huge story surrounding the number of them, 487 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: meritocra see the talents of them. We got a ton 488 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: of people out there listening right now, kids, grandkids. How 489 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: many more air traffic controllers do we need? What should 490 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: people out there who are interested in these jobs and 491 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: believe they have the talent to be doing And how 492 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: do we get to the point where we have a 493 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: depth So if we get guys who were sick or 494 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: gals who are sick, we don't have to worry about 495 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: different airport air traffic areas being shut down, which discombobulates 496 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: obviously travel nationwide. 497 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 7: So give or take them about two thousand short I 498 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 7: have increased the capacity of throughput in the academy where 499 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 7: we train our air traffic controllers by twenty percent this year. 500 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 7: I've asked experienced controllers not to retire. I'm paying them 501 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 7: twenty percent up front cash bonuses to not retire, to 502 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 7: stand the job, to try to close that gap. But 503 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 7: if you're twenty years old, you got two years of 504 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 7: work experience, and you want to be an air traffic controller, 505 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 7: you're smart. You can take our entrance exam. And again 506 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 7: sometimes if you're a painter, if you're a mechanic, there's 507 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 7: no rhyme or reason of what makes a good air 508 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 7: traffic controller, but we test you for it. 509 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 6: You come in. 510 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 7: Our academy is four months, you come out to pay 511 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 7: where your placed. It could take a year to three 512 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 7: years to get certified. But these guys are making they're 513 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 7: making really good money and doing a really important service 514 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 7: to the country. So we're looking for smart young men 515 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 7: and women that want to come into this uh into 516 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 7: this industry. 517 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 6: And and again it pays. 518 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 7: Well and you're you're you're providing the safety of the 519 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 7: of the traveling public. So we have a plan to 520 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 7: close the gap. Technology can help us too. But you 521 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 7: saw what happened during the shutdown, and you know you 522 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 7: had air traffic controllers that weren't being paid and they 523 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 7: were having some hard times putting food on the table. 524 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 7: They were there were you know, driving uber and waiting tables. 525 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 6: I mean, you can't have that. 526 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 7: So so we have to think through hard problems that 527 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 7: the last administration. 528 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 6: Didn't want to take up. They didn't want to consider. 529 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 7: There's no hard problem in this department that we aren't 530 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 7: grappling with trying to fix and whether there's no plan 531 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 7: to fix this when we are fixing this and going 532 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 7: to make it better for the American people. 533 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: Zech Jerry Duffie, look forward to seeing you tomorrow should 534 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: be an awesome event at the Kennedy Center, and appreciate 535 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: the good work and everybody out there. You just heard it. 536 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: There's lots of great jobs air traffic control that you 537 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: can be searching out for those kids and grandkids. Appreciate 538 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 1: you man. 539 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 6: Thanks Jentz. 540 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: Have a good one that is a Secretary of Transportation 541 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: Sean Duffy. When we come back, we'll unpack a little 542 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: bit of what he said. Also update you on the 543 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: FBI and that Venezuela situation with House Majority Leader Steve 544 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: Scalise scheduled to join us at the bottom of the hour. 545 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: But I want to tell you get those pens ready. 546 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: We've got Thursday Night Football back underway, and I've got 547 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: a winner for all of you. 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We're back to d 575 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: C to talk to House Majority Leader Steve Scalise. We 576 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: got a bunch of topics to hit with him, but 577 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: let's start with this. We're awaiting the press conference from 578 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: the FBI on the arrest of the pipe bomber in 579 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty one. You, as we were talking 580 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: about earlier on the program, Congressman have seen firsthand the 581 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: consequences of political violence, and unfortunately the number of political 582 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: related violence issues seem like they are accelerating. Is that 583 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: the sense that you have. 584 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 7: And. 585 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: How would you assess where we are right now in 586 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: terms of the temperature of the danger and the violence 587 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: that unfortunately it could typifize too much of our conversation, 588 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: it feels like politically today. 589 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, well first play and Buck, thank you for 590 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 8: having me. And you know, it's sad to see that 591 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 8: politics tod has gotten so toxic in terms of you know, 592 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 8: we all have disagreements, and I mean, our country has 593 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 8: always celebrated the fact that we don't all think alike 594 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 8: and we can express those differences in a free and 595 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 8: open society. And you know what, if you and I disagree, 596 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 8: you can vote against me at the ballot every two years. 597 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 8: We settle our differences at the ballot box. And for 598 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 8: anybody to think that political violence is okay, it's not. 599 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 8: And yes, I've seen it firsthand. You know, we still 600 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 8: see it more and more lately, and it's got to stop. 601 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, Charlie Kurk's assassination, you know, was 602 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 8: just another example, but it's far from an isolated case. 603 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 8: And you know, the pipe bombing, I mean, it's said 604 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 8: that it took this long. I mean, it took years 605 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 8: to figure it out, but I'm glad. I applauded the 606 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 8: FBI for staying on the case and and for finally, 607 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 8: you know, making an arrest because you know, he intended. 608 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 8: Luckily he wasn't successful, but he intended to blow up 609 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 8: a building. I mean, this is insane. 610 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: Congresson's glease, appreciate you being with us here. What are 611 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: some of the key things that you think can get 612 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: done before Congress goes into recess. What is your what's 613 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: your focus as we're rounding up here at the end 614 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: of the year in twenty twenty five. 615 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, as we're in the beginning of December, 616 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 8: still a lot more we want to do by the 617 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 8: end of this year. In just the next few weeks, 618 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 8: you know, we're in the middle of putting together a 619 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 8: bill on healthcare that a lower healthcare costs for families. 620 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 8: You know, I was in a meeting this morning with 621 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 8: the Doctor's Caucus. We have a caucus of medical doctors 622 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 8: who serve in Congress who have some great ideas. I've 623 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 8: been meeting with other members over the last few weeks 624 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 8: and we've put together a package of bills and we're 625 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 8: going to ultimately bring this to the floor soon. I 626 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 8: don't even know exactly when. In the next probe two weeks, 627 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 8: we're building consensus, and once we have that consensus, you're 628 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 8: going to see a series of bills this month in 629 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 8: December on the House floor to lower healthcare costs. And 630 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 8: I'm not talking about just shoveling hundreds of billions more 631 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 8: dollars into the Affordable Care Act that has not been 632 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 8: working for families. I mean, since that law passed, you know, 633 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 8: what's known as Obamacare, you've seen an increase in premiums 634 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 8: on families by eighty percent. So clearly the Affordable Care 635 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 8: Act has been anything but affordable. What we want to 636 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 8: do is get families options, you know, allow you to 637 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 8: do things like pooling together association health plans, so that 638 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 8: small businesses can pull together and get the buying power 639 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 8: of a large company, so that those premiums cost a 640 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 8: lot less, things like health savings accounts where you can 641 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 8: even if you're in an ACA plan right now, you're 642 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 8: only trapped in that plan. How about if we let 643 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 8: families have the flexibility to where you can take that 644 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 8: existing money and move it to a plan that's better 645 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 8: for your family. If you find a plan that has 646 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 8: a lower deductible cost, a lower monthly premium. You should 647 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 8: be able to go and buy that plan just like 648 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 8: you got you buy. You know, you look on TV. 649 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 8: You've got all these commercials for car insurance and other 650 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 8: products that are fighting for your dollar because there's competition. 651 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 8: Right now. In health insurance, you don't have competition because 652 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 8: the marketplace is really focused on forcing everybody into the 653 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 8: Unaffordable Care Act. We want to make that more flexible 654 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 8: so families have options to lower their premiums, and we'll 655 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 8: be bringing those bills to the floor in the next 656 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 8: few weeks. 657 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: By the way, press conference has started with the FBI. 658 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: We are monitoring Attorney General Pam Bondi addressing the arrest 659 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: right now. 660 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 8: And by the way, there are other there are a 661 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 8: lot of other bills. I'm sorry to jump in again, 662 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 8: but you did ask a broader question about what are 663 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 8: we doing the rest of this month. That's one important 664 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 8: package we're going to be bringing. We're bringing a number 665 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 8: of other bills. We've got some housing affordability bills that 666 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 8: are going to be going through committee next week and 667 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 8: the Financial Services Committee that come into the House floor 668 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 8: this month. Probably. We've got some other bills that are 669 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 8: focused on lowering costs. In other areas, We've done a 670 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 8: lot on energy production, on taxes so that nobody has 671 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 8: tax increases, but we also help no tax on tips, 672 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 8: no tax on overtime, so a lot of blue collar 673 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 8: workers are going to be able to get really big 674 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 8: benefits in terms of more money in their paychecks. You know. 675 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 8: We're working on other things that will lower inflation, lowering 676 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 8: interest rates, you know. So we're bringing bills on all 677 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 8: of those fronts. In addition to the normal appropriations process, 678 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 8: we're bringing what's called the National Defense Authorization Act, hopefully 679 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 8: next week, the bill that sets all the priorities for 680 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 8: a nation's defense. Very important bill, usually a very bipartisan bill. 681 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 8: Hopefully that's going to be on the floor next week. 682 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 8: So we're doing a lot of different things, all at 683 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 8: the same time, but really important things for families. 684 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: Pambondi. By the way, this cold case languished four years 685 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: until Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino came to the FBI. 686 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: No new tips, no new witnesses, just good diligent work. 687 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 6: That is. 688 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: Attorney General Pambondi on the Pipe Bomber arrest. Last question 689 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: for you, Rate I know, Congressman, there was hope that 690 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: there was going to be a score Act passed as 691 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: it had to do with college athletics. That has now 692 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: been shelved as it's continuing to be worked on. You 693 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: are in Louisiana, congrats on Lane Kiffin. For people out 694 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: there and a huge majority of our audience is this 695 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: are college sports fans. What are you guys trying to 696 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: do and what's the latest you can tell us on 697 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: that act? 698 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, and I still want to see us bring this 699 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 8: bill to the floor because it's important to anybody who 700 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 8: loves college athletics, you know, me included, I know you 701 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 8: do in many people, millions around the country have seen 702 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 8: over the last few years it's become the wild wild West. 703 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 8: And why is that. It's because, through a lot of things, lawsuits, 704 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 8: that the NCAA is lost, and other things, there is 705 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 8: no ability for schools to enforce their own rules anymore, 706 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 8: you know. And whether they come together and get behind 707 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 8: the NCAA or some other organization, that's not what Congress 708 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 8: is dictating. What Congress is going to try to do 709 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 8: is say, hey, the schools can actually go and enforce 710 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 8: their own rules again in college at athletics. And oh, 711 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 8: by the way, we also in the score Act put 712 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 8: in protections for student athletes that don't exist today. You know, 713 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 8: whether or not students get paid, that issue has already 714 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 8: been decided, but right now there are no real protections 715 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 8: for the students who are getting paid for example, agents. 716 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 8: You've got kids sixteen seventeen years old in high school 717 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 8: getting approached by agents with contracts that they I'm sure 718 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 8: they're not getting teams of attorneys to read. They might 719 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 8: be signing their rights away for ten years when they 720 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 8: signed some deal in high school. We put guardrails there 721 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 8: so that the students get real protections, so that it 722 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 8: limits how much an agent can even get in fees 723 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 8: from the student athlete. We protect the Olympic sports. The 724 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 8: US Olympic Committee just came out in support of this 725 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 8: bill to Score Act because it does protect Olympic sports 726 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 8: and other you know, women's sports, you know Title nine 727 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 8: sports for example. So won't just be football and basketball 728 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 8: at every college. You're going to be able to have 729 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 8: in a array of men's and women's sports that are 730 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 8: some make money, a lot of them lose money. But 731 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 8: you're going to be able to have those protections in 732 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 8: place at schools as well. So it's an important bill 733 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 8: that a lot of universities across the country have asked for. Again, 734 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 8: not Congress policing college athletics, but Congress passing a law 735 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 8: to just undo all of these bad lawsuits that have 736 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 8: been lost over years and years, so that college athletics 737 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 8: can be governed again. You know, a portal where every 738 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 8: year kid can transfer and somebody can play for six 739 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 8: years for five different schools and oh, by the way, 740 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 8: they're supposed to be getting an education, but they can't 741 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 8: even transfer their credits because it's gotten so ridiculous. That 742 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 8: can get rained in as well, And I think everybody 743 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 8: wants some structure back in place. 744 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Congressman Steve Scalise. Look forward to seeing you again, 745 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: having you again on soon. Keep up the good work. 746 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 8: Hey, we're going to keep getting it done, but we're 747 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 8: going to deliver a lot of good things through the 748 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 8: American people. Thank you for having me claim. 749 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: Buck no doubt. Look, we'll monitor and we're continuing with 750 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: the FBI press conference. We may go to it live 751 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: when we come back out of the next break. We'll 752 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: certainly have cuts for you. Cash Ptel speaking right now, 753 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: FBI Director. Online scammers love the holiday season just as 754 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: much as you do. 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We claim your sanity with 771 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: Clay and find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 772 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay, Travis, 773 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 774 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: Buck had to bounce. I've got you the rest of 775 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: the way. Julie Kelly joins me. Now, Julie, I don't 776 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 1: know anybody who has covered jan six better, more significantly 777 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: or more regularly than you have. You've been coming on 778 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: with us for years. This pipe bomber. We've talked about 779 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: you some on this related incident for years in the past, 780 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: and I just want to start before we dive into 781 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: the specifics with you, if you truly believed that, as 782 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: the Biden administration told us they did, that Gen six 783 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: then surrounding days was basically the worst threat to the 784 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: country since the Civil War. The alleged pipe bombs would 785 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: be the most violent of all of the protests that 786 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: were surrounding that day in terms of what they could 787 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: have occurred if they had exploded. Wouldn't you have made 788 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: that your number one focus of investigation? Why do you 789 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: think it was not the number one focus, because clearly 790 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: it was not of the Biden doj. 791 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 4: Hey, Clay, I'm sorry you broke up that very first 792 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 4: part there, but why this was not not only not 793 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 4: focus of their investigation, this was a very vigorous investigation 794 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 4: early on through January February twenty twenty one. Then all 795 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 4: of a sudden it disappeared. Yeah, and that really is 796 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 4: a takeaway. That's the scandal about this arrest today, not 797 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 4: necessarily that this suspect is in custody and now they 798 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 4: just posted the complaint. So I'm going to be looking 799 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 4: through that. But why Chris rays dooj Joe Biden's Department 800 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 4: of Justice completely dropped this matter? And we have to 801 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 4: believe at this point some of the reporting indicating that 802 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 4: this individual, who was twenty five or twenty six at 803 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 4: the time, was linked to Antifa or that anti fascist 804 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 4: movement and was not a Maca person as we were 805 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 4: told for years. 806 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: So what do you think, actually, what do you think 807 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: actually has happened here? And you said the complaint has 808 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: just been posted, Dan Bongino, cash Ptel, Pam Bondi. They 809 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: had a big press conference. We've played some cuts from that. 810 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: I'm scrolling through Twitter right now trying to see if 811 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: I can see that complaint as you were just talking 812 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: about as well, what exactly has been alleged here? But 813 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: the arrest. This Brian, Well, let me play for you, Julian, 814 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: let you react to this. This was Dan Bongino describing 815 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: the moment they were able to solve the case and 816 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: his reaction cut thirty five. 817 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 9: Was there a particular moment where the evidence is coming 818 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 9: in and it's starting to look like progress is being made. 819 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 9: What was the moment that you knew that you were 820 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 9: on the road to solving the case? 821 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 8: Yeah? 822 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 10: Sure, I was smiling at you, because I certainly remember 823 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 10: the moment. Karen remembers it too. He said, are you 824 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 10: sitting down? He called me on the phone. I said, 825 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 10: oh boy, why sis bad news? And he said, I 826 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 10: think we got him. What exactly that tip was? We're 827 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 10: going to have to pass on that from right now. 828 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 10: We're still there's obviously we're in the prologue of a 829 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 10: long book. 830 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 6: This is just the beginning. 831 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 10: This is not the end of the investigation, as you 832 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 10: all well know, having a reportant on these for a 833 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 10: long time. There's interviews to be conducted, the search, more 834 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 10: and processing scene is not even done. 835 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: Okay, the affidavit is up, Julie on the criminal complaint, 836 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: I've just seen images of this guy start to circulate. 837 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: He is a young black man, Brian Cole Junior, and 838 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: the indications that he is a diehard Trump supporter or 839 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: that he would have been an insurrectionist seems quite clearly 840 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: not to be true. And again, I'm reading through with 841 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: this affidavit right now. What I think this has the 842 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: potential So let me take a step back, because we're 843 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: analyzing this in real time. This has to put the 844 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 1: potential to change in many ways the narrative surrounding Jan 845 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: six itself. If instead of a crazed group of Trump terrorists, 846 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: there were also individuals here who are you know, this 847 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: individual is maybe just a left wing radical that was 848 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: also involved in this, That really kind of changes the 849 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 1: oh these are crazy white supremacist Trump supporters narrative doesn't 850 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't it challenge things. 851 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 4: It definitely does play and that's why and I was 852 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 4: saying this earlier in interviews this morning, before we even 853 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 4: knew you know, the individual's name, but there was some 854 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 4: reporting that he was tied to antifa. Is that that 855 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 4: explains why the investigation was dropped because it completely contradicted 856 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 4: what FBI Director Christopher Ray and I will be posting 857 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 4: these clips shortly on acts doing underscore Kelly two. Christopher 858 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 4: Ray's insistence that Antifa played no role in the events 859 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 4: of January sixth. Now, he was saying this as early 860 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 4: as March of twenty twenty one when he designated January 861 00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 4: sixth an active domestic terrorism. But he was insistent that 862 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 4: no one from Antifa was involved. There was no way 863 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 4: for him to know that, Clay. But because you had 864 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 4: the president, because you had people who were there on 865 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 4: January sixth who were saying that they saw Antifa there. 866 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 4: They Antifa getting out of buses. We also have right now. Finally, 867 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,240 Speaker 4: I think it was discovered last year or in twenty 868 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 4: twenty three, undercoveredc Metro police officers arriving at Capitol Grounds 869 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 4: telling people that they were there to find Antifa. So 870 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 4: this would have been not just decimated the entire January 871 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 4: sixth insurrection narrative, but also contradicted Chris Ray because he 872 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 4: was desperate to help develop this insurrection narrative and use 873 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 4: it against the President and the MAGA movement. So we 874 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 4: have a much bigger scandal on our hands. Rather than 875 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 4: just taking a man into custody who was seen on 876 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 4: that video on January sixth, This is a huge cover 877 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 4: up on a massive scale of Chris Ray's FBI and 878 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 4: Joe Biden, Marrick Arland's Department of Justice keeping this from 879 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 4: the American people, keeping it out of legal proceedings. Jasics 880 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 4: defendants could have viewed something like this as its sculpatory 881 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 4: evidence because you had judged calling this an insurrection incited 882 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,720 Speaker 4: by the president. So there are a lot of consequences 883 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 4: legal ramifications of what Chris Rays cover up if that 884 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 4: is indeed the fact of this individual who planted the 885 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 4: pipe bombs and then prompted the first leak of panic 886 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 4: and these evacuations that Dave right as the joint session 887 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 4: was heating at one o'clock. 888 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: All right, let me read this is the court. Let 889 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: me see. I want to make sure I get the 890 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: official because my producer. This is the affidavit in support 891 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: of the criminal complaint that has been filed and released, 892 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: and I'm reading through it live with you right now. 893 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 1: Cole lives in a single family house with his mother 894 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: and other family members. He is thirty years old, resident 895 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: of Woodbridge, Virginia. The evidence laid out here, Julian, I'm 896 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: reading this in real time. The FBI has identified one 897 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: bank checking account six credit cards used by Cole to 898 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: they allege purchase multiple items consistent with the components used 899 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: to manufacture the pipe bombs, and they say that he 900 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 1: bought these things in a physical retail locations in northern Virginia. 901 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 1: And then it runs through the specifics of exactly what 902 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: was included in these pipe bombs and where they were 903 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: able to find and trace the purchases at home depot. 904 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: They then say that they were and this is very 905 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: detailed about the things that were purchased that they believe 906 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: were directly used in the pipe bomb that they were 907 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: able to end. They also then say that since at 908 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: least as early as January five, twenty twenty one, they 909 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: have identified his cell phone number and they have been 910 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: able to obtain historical cell site records located in the 911 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: immediate vicinity of the RNC and the DNC at the 912 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: time at which the bomb was placed. And these are 913 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: cell phone towers location data records obtained. And again I'm 914 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: reading from this in real time from the cell phone 915 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: provider provide service to Cole's cell phone show that he 916 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: was in the area and that they are able. Let's 917 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: see the particular sector that engaged and basically that he 918 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: was there during the time that they believe that these 919 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: pipe bombs were actually placed. So again I'm reading in 920 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: real time the specific pinging. You may or may not 921 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: have this in front of you, Julie. This will be 922 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: ultimately for a court to determine guilt or innocence, but 923 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: they have it appears him purchasing the items that were 924 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 1: used to make the pipe bomb with his credit card, 925 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: and then his cell phone being in the location where 926 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: the pipe bomb was placed on that night. That is circumstantial. 927 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 1: They obviously have video footage of an individual as well. 928 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 1: He's covered up, he fits the height size. Maybe they'll 929 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: be able to find some of these clothes. I don't know, 930 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: but this is very detail that was not discussed at 931 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: the press conference. So your reaction to some of this 932 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: obviously as it's coming down in real time, right. 933 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 4: So this does appear to confirm that the FBI has 934 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 4: the right person in custody. So that's a good sign. 935 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 4: We don't want, you know, a rush to judgment here, 936 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 4: and that does not appear to be the case. But 937 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 4: what was said during the press conference today, and I 938 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 4: would liked to have seen a lot more details on 939 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 4: the suspect and where this investigation is headed, and the 940 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 4: cover up apparently by Chris Ray's FBI rather than sort 941 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 4: of you know, this teamwork performance that we got instead. 942 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 4: So this this apidated, this complaint will be helpful in 943 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,919 Speaker 4: giving put some putting some warm meat on the bone. 944 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 4: But Clay, what was said during the press conference is 945 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 4: very important. This discovery identifying the suspect was not based 946 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 4: on new information or evidence, right, they were working off 947 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 4: what they already had, just putting new investigators, fresh pairs 948 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 4: of eyes on this, which means that the Ray FBI 949 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 4: has had had that for years. So this was an 950 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 4: intentional decision by someone, whether it was Chris Ray, whether 951 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 4: it's Steven Dantuano was the DC FBI chief at the 952 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 4: time overseeing the pipe investigation. So someone or somebody's made 953 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 4: conscious choice to pursue this, but to pretend at the 954 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 4: same time that the FBI actually was looking for this person. 955 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 4: So you know, as I said, there are big ram 956 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 4: the stations for this, and I hope that we hear 957 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 4: more from the FBI and the dj about what they 958 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 4: had when they had it. The fingerprints all over that 959 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 4: information early on, and then he made the decision to 960 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 4: shut the whole thing down. 961 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: Yes, Julie, we appreciate the time. Again, this is a 962 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: breaking news story. I know you're going to have a 963 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: crazy day. We're trying to make sense of it all. 964 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: But I think certainly the idea that this was a 965 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 1: white supremacist led revolt against the United States government would 966 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: be challenged if the most violent alleged perpetrator was a 967 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: young black man connected to Antifa, as the detail seemed 968 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: to suggest he was based on the based on the 969 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: information that's coming out here, So well, hey. 970 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 4: Great, put yourself. Put us back to April of twenty 971 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 4: Let's say that Chris Ray does announce this arrest of 972 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 4: this individual and he's a young black man, no ties 973 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 4: to MAGA, but has ties to Antifa. There would be 974 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 4: no January sixth insurrection narrative. It would have been over. Yeah, 975 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 4: it could not allow that to happen. And this is 976 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 4: a scandal of massive proportion, and that should be the 977 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 4: biggest takeaway today. 978 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: And then I think, Julie, to build on top of that, 979 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to start to say, Okay, 980 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: what motivated this twenty five year old at that point 981 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: in time to decide to do this, and then he 982 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: vanishes for five years and doesn't do anything else, and 983 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: he's living at his parents' house in northern Virginia and 984 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: we suddenly find him, like what is his vag It 985 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: just they're an awful lot of lone wolfs that seem 986 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: who engage and I'm using quotation marks for those watching 987 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: on video, who engage in acts of violence that we hear, Oh, 988 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: they had no connection to anyone else. Isn't it kind 989 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: of suspicious how often that seems to happen. 990 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 4: It is happening more often, And I think that this 991 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 4: is something that that FBI, that Cash and Dan are 992 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 4: going to have to address straight on. I mean, if 993 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 4: we are expected to believe that this individual did this 994 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 4: on his own, we could see him on a phone. 995 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 4: We can see him using his glasses to like peer 996 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 4: for an address, we can see him retracing his steps. 997 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 4: This was not a sophisticated operation that this kid did 998 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 4: on his own. Who would be working at his behest. 999 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,439 Speaker 4: And then Clay, like you and I and you Buck 1000 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 4: and I have talked about for years the very suspicious 1001 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 4: surroundings of related to the discovery at the R and 1002 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 4: C and the DNC. I still believe that something Morner 1003 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,720 Speaker 4: FERI's happened in that timeline that day on January sixth, 1004 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 4: right before those discoveries, than what happened with this individual 1005 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 4: who is arrested today. 1006 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,720 Speaker 1: Well remember, I mean, there's that video of Kamala Harris, 1007 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 1: supposedly an incredible danger coming within what a few feet 1008 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: of the alleged pipe bomb, and nobody notices it and 1009 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 1: they didn't turn into a huge story. I think you've 1010 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: talked about this in the past, when you know you're 1011 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 1: about to be elected as vice president and there's a 1012 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: pipe bomb in close proximity to you and nobody seems 1013 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: to be concerned about it. Anyway, There's a lot here, 1014 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you coming on, and I think a 1015 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,919 Speaker 1: lot of this is going to continue to be explained 1016 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: and to be unraveled as we go forward so that 1017 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: there's more sense to be made here. But we appreciate 1018 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: the time and thank you for everything that you've been 1019 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: doing on these cases. You soon thinks that's Julie Kelly. 1020 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: I'll try to get to a couple of your calls 1021 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: when we come back, because again I'm trying to read 1022 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: this affidavit in real time and analyze it as a 1023 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: major breaking news and again, at a minimum, this is 1024 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: destructive to the narrative of Jan six than a seismic way. 1025 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: That now a young black man who appears to have 1026 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 1: been of left wing ideology is arrested as the foremost 1027 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: violent actor of the Jan sixth window. It's just big news. 1028 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 1: It is huge news. And they couldn't find this guy 1029 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: for five years. 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