1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Coming out on a Get Loud podcasts. Oh, we're one 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: week away from the regular season. We'll get into that. Also, 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna go back in time a little bit because 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: you had an incredible part of manifesting Joe Jackson, Gibs 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: coming back good Joseph. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Yes. 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Also best celebrity run ends. 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: It's coming up on the Get Loud Podcast. Yes, it 9 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: is how you doing every. 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Want It is to Get Loud podcast, presented by Seat Geek. 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Right there, Baby, you gotta pay those bills. 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: You gotta pay them bills, baby. 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Fred Smoot Michael Jenkins. Just before we came out, we 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: were talking about cow's milk. So I know this is 15 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a good podcast. 16 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: When do we go from there? I don't know. 17 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: I was trying to make a transition from a cow 18 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: to a Bengal. I don't think I can do it. 19 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: I understand. I understand where you're coming from. 20 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So Commanders beat the Bengals in preseason game 21 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: number three, twenty one to nineteen, and we got a 22 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: little break before the start of the regular season. But 23 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: I have to say, it's hard for me to try 24 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: to convince myself not to get too excited. Yeah, there's 25 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why it should be excited. 26 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, this is what I do love. 27 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: Even though we went three and on the preseason, nobody's 28 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: talking about it. 29 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: That means we're thinking about the future. We're not thinking 30 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: about the now. We're not going crazy about anything. I 31 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: think right now, we got a wave in Washington and 32 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: we're riding that wave right now, and I think the 33 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: expectations are higher than they ever being. 34 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: I think so by the way they were doing the 35 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: wave effects they did the wave, we did. 36 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: The way we had enough people in the stadium wave. 37 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: So we can talk about all sorts of different position groups. 38 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: I'll throw out dbs because you're a dB. Emmanuel Forbes 39 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: has looked great, and also Kwan Martin got his. So 40 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,919 Speaker 1: this is going to be one of those position groups 41 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: where some tough decisions are going to have to be 42 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: made because a lot of guys showed out. 43 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: You know what, as a person that played the game 44 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: and the person that's emotionally attached to the game. I 45 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: loved this time of the year, but I hated this 46 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: time of the year. I loved it because football is 47 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: about to start, the real games. I hated it because 48 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: I lost a lot of friends that got cut. Yeah, 49 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: I lost a lot of people in the life because 50 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Ninety people start today, fifty three are gonna 51 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: make the roster. Yeah, And for some rookies, their dreams 52 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: are going to end tomorrow. Like for some veterans, they 53 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: don't even know what they played their last game on 54 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: the NFL field. So watching those dreams die, it's a 55 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: part of you that feels for them and that hurts 56 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: for them, But you understand the business side sure of it. 57 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: And I think I think that's the difference of it. 58 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: What was one of the toughest moments you've ever had 59 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: watching somebody get cut. I don't know if you want 60 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: to name names, but where you were close to someone 61 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: and like, man, this would hurts. 62 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: Oh no, listen, it's a lot of guys I was 63 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: like very close to because you got realize, we spend 64 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: the whole summer together, there's been to fall together, and 65 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden they're gone. And not only 66 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: are they gone, you gonna look at them across and 67 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: they might be on another sideline. 68 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 69 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: So I got really close to some guys, spend some 70 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: time with hers. Some guys I let stay with me, 71 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: because once they come here, they like don't have apartment 72 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: of something. Yeah, let them stay with you and stuff 73 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: like that. You be a memories, you be a tied 74 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 3: with them. I won't bring in the names. But there's 75 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: a lot of guys that I just like, Man, I 76 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: can't believe it, and I felt for them for. 77 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: Them, and we also know that even for some of 78 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: these guys who don't make this roster, there's gonna be 79 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: some guys who show up elsewhere who will make a 80 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: name for themself and. 81 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: Do big things. 82 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: Like the thing about it is jeopardcause it don't happen here, 83 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 3: don't mean it won't happen. And that's the thing about this, 84 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: this voyage in the NFL. 85 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: It's some ups and downs. It's some It's like, listen, I. 86 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: Always tell people, it ain't nothing like sitting at home 87 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: watching ESPN and find out you just got traded through 88 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: the ticker. Like nobody has to do that with their job, right, 89 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: Like nobody has to do that with their job. And 90 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: now you got to look at your wife or your 91 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: girl and tell were moving to Minnesota. Right, It's a 92 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: totally different thing, and it's a totally different life and 93 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: I think athletes are built for it. 94 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: The mobile, we mobile like that. 95 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: Have you had that happen even before where you find 96 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: out something via a ticker? 97 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: Well, when it was overwent, I kind of felt it 98 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: because my body was there and plus talking to the 99 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: front of office, I was like, I kind of knew. 100 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: So my career was not full of surprises. It was 101 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: kind of like laid out for me, and I kind 102 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: of took it into my own hands. Like even when 103 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: I was in Minnesota, I was unhappy, Like I was 104 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: happy with the money. I was unhappy day to day 105 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: live in life because it wasn't DC. It wasn't I 106 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: wasn't happy with my off the field life. I was 107 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: happy with my own field life, but it started to 108 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: bleed into my own the field play. So I was like, 109 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: I have to get back home. And I jumped on 110 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: the phone with Coach Gibbs. I just called him out 111 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: the blue and like, Coach, I want to come home, 112 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: and he was like, will they trade you back? 113 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: And he was like, because if they will, we're taking you. 114 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: I got on the. 115 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: Phone with Ziggi Wiel and I was on Ziggi Wheel, 116 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: I really do want to go back to Washington He 117 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: was like, do they want you back? I was like, yeah, Jae, 118 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: I got the phone with Coach Gibbs. It happened twenty 119 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: four hours later. 120 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: Did it really back? 121 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Like? 122 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: I was back? 123 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: And I kind of took it into my own hands 124 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: to say, you know what, it'll do me better if 125 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: I go back home. 126 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: And this DC has always been home. Man. 127 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: We got a lot of stuff to get to. But yeah, 128 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: you were talking about coach Gibbs. You might as well 129 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: talk about him now. 130 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 131 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: So when you came back and when he came back, 132 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: you were telling this crazy story where you were being 133 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: interviewed by what ESPN. Yeah, and in some way it's 134 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: sort of influence. You kind of manifested him coming back. 135 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: It was one of these things where Coach Ferry had 136 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: just after Blue retired, just I'm through. 137 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: It's his famous quote, I got oh, we got locked. 138 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: Not very good. We ain't very good, and that's okay 139 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: at the end of the day. 140 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: I remember one time we were playing the game and 141 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: we got beat to death, like thirty five a zero, 142 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: and Coach were like, hey, guys, hurry up and shall 143 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: let's get out of. 144 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: Here for a football game. Break out again because we 145 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: ain't ready for it, like. 146 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: He just once he retired. And I understood this about coach. 147 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: He was a college guy. 148 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: He loved it that some guys are just for the college. 149 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: I guess his lane, the old ball coach and he quit. 150 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: And I'm driving down ninety five because it's the end 151 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: of the season. I'm driving back to Mississippi, going to 152 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: see my folks. ESPN calls me like, can you do 153 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: an interview? And I'm like, I'm driving through South Carolina, like, 154 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: stop in Atlanta at the CNN building, do an interview 155 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: because coach Spurry just retired. So I'm driving like, wow, 156 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: Coach Spurri, You're gone. Who's gonna be our next coach? 157 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking in my head, like who would I 158 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: love to play for? And I was like, the only 159 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: person that ever brought a ring to this city, yep 160 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: is Joe Jackson Gibbs. 161 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: So I said, akay to Joseph, That's what I called him. 162 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: I said, you know what, I'm gonna put it out 163 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: there in the atmosphere and see what happens. They asked me, 164 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 3: whos gonna be our next coach? I said, I hope 165 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: it's Coach Gibbs. He's the only person that brought a 166 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: championship here. I would love to play for him. It 167 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: would be an honor for him. I get a call 168 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: a couple hours later like thank you, and I'm like, 169 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: who is this? 170 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: He like this Joe Gibbs. I was like, what are 171 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: you thinking me for? 172 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: He was like, because I have been thinking about coaching 173 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: for the last couple of months. I just didn't know 174 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: how to tell my wife. I just didn't know how 175 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: to bring it up to it. And we're sitting here 176 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: watching ESPN and watching your interview and we look at 177 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: each other and she's like, Joe, what you're gonna do? 178 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: And he was like, I'm going back. And I feel 179 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: good because I kind of feel like I was a 180 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: catalyst boy. So it was like you wrote the ice 181 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: for it. 182 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: I broke that for him and made it easy for 183 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: him to find his way back. So when he came back, 184 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: I drove. I literally flew. 185 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: Back here and it was like the best experience of 186 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: my life. 187 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't meeting the coach. 188 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: I was meeting a granddaddy figure and that's the relationship 189 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: we have, like very close. It was more intimate than 190 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: I have ever been with a coach ever before in 191 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: my life. And I I'm very close to Jackie Sheryl, 192 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: I'm very close to him. I was very close to 193 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: martinshin him he drafted me. But me and Coach Gibb 194 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: that that was different. And I still to this day 195 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: go see him in Carolina like that's my guy. 196 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: So the fan base clearly everyone loves Show Gibbs, not 197 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: just because of his football acumen, but because of the 198 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: kind son that he is. What is it since you 199 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: know him? What is it about him? Can you go 200 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: more into just the specifics of the kind of person 201 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: is that that draws you to him. 202 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: The kindness, the thoughtfulness, the person, the presence, who he is, 203 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: what he teaches. Like when he first met me, he 204 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: was like, I'm more entertaining and I'm more intrigued by 205 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: the person. 206 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: Of Fridge Smooth, not the player like a lot. 207 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: Like he literally told me, some people are built to 208 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: play football. 209 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: I feel like you are one of those people. 210 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 3: And I was like, why you feel like that, Coach, 211 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: Because you're like most people, they gifted, they don't love 212 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: the practice. 213 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: You come out here every day laughing and Joe and practice. 214 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: That's different. And he really helped me be in tuned 215 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: with the person. And he always told me this, don't 216 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: you ever lose track of the person of Fred Smooth, 217 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: don't get trapped in the player. 218 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: Keep the person. So that part and me able to 219 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: just walk in. 220 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 3: His office in attack because I realized he spent the 221 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: night here five five nights out of seven every week, 222 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: so I knew he would be here no matter what. 223 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: And I just walked in his office anytime. I had 224 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 3: that connection to him. So when I went to Minnesota, 225 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 3: I never forget this. Bus cooked my agent. We signed 226 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: the contract to Minnesota. Okay, big contract, my biggest contract, 227 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: and I just couldn't stop crying. And Bus was like, 228 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: are you just that damn happy that she just can't 229 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: stop crying? And I was like, nah, I said, I'm 230 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: hurt because I'm leaving Coach Gibbs. Like I like, I 231 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: don't want to leave Coach Gibbs. 232 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: But we were not connected. 233 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: We was dead connected. 234 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: But I also knew we were so messed up under 235 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: the cap at the time that he couldn't sign us, 236 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: Me and Tonio Pears. 237 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: He wanted all of us to stay here. 238 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: But we were still paying Dean Sanders that I hadn't 239 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: played with plus for four years, so we were still 240 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: playing guys that wasn't even on the team. And I 241 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: never forget when I signed the country, I just could 242 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: not stop crying. And I woke up the next day 243 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: and I was. 244 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: Like, what's wrong with you? Do you should? This should 245 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: be the happiest there. 246 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, I just did not want 247 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: to leave, but I knew what I had to do. 248 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: Person I feel like too, and I've had this happen 249 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: I think everyone has. When you feel like whoever your 250 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: boss has, head, coach, whatever, they actually care about you 251 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: and like you. Then all of a sudden, it's different. 252 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: You're not just a number, You're not just employed, Like, oh, 253 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: you actually appreciate me and that makes you a lot 254 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: more loyal. 255 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: Well, I looked at it as this, this is the 256 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: same guy that won three Super Bowls with Jo Thighsman, 257 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: Mark Ripping, Doug Williams, coach Dale Green, this guy to 258 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: coach numerous Hall of famers, and he looks at me 259 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: as one of his top guys that blew me away, 260 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: That blew me away like I would never think with 261 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 3: the Brian minches of the word, Fred Smooth would be 262 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: one of his favorite guys, that he does not forget, 263 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: and that he makes sure that like we talk all 264 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: the time, Like I can call Coach Gibbs at the 265 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: drop of a dime. I don't think many people had 266 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: that type relationship. He ain't coached me for fifteen years now, 267 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: and we still have that relationship. I still cheer Todd 268 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 3: Gibbs on ass Cad all of us like. 269 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: We're family, man, So you're telling me, which I did 270 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: not realize. Of course, there's a bubble out here. Yeah, 271 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: and I spurn. But Joe gibbson water bubble. 272 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: He didn't want no. Dan asks Joe, do you want 273 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: a bubble so y'all could practice indoor? No baby? 274 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: Did he say? No? 275 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: Baby? Baby? It's redskin and weather. I'm like, what is 276 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: red skinned weather? All weather? Listen, people don't understand this 277 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: about Coach Gibbs. He will work you to death, all right. Yeah, 278 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: his practices are not for the faint of heart. 279 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: And the thing about it is tornado, hurricane, it does 280 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 3: not matter. 281 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: It's red skin weather. We're gonna be outside. I'm talking 282 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: about blizzards. 283 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: I remember one day we were practicing, right, and the 284 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: guys were like, before practice because everybody watched the weather man. 285 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: They were like, hey, it's gone thunderstorm out today. She 286 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: will go tell coach we need to practice or walk 287 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: through indoors. 288 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: I go upstairs. 289 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: Oh wait, someone told you to go tell him like 290 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: this is what they did. 291 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: The whole locker room knew that, me and coach. So 292 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: I was like the youngest son that you always go to, 293 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: you the middle man. I'm the middle man. 294 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: So they like, go tell coach, we can't practice the 295 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: day I go up there, I'm like, Coach, you know, 296 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: it's if in a thunderstorm. You're like, yeah, baby, it's redskin. 297 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: I see y'all side at the thirty minute. 298 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: So I go back to the guys, Hey, I see 299 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: y'all outside, And thirty minute we go outside. We're practicing, 300 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: right ooh, and it's just parental rain dripping and coaches 301 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: out there, no hat on, no anything. 302 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: He just loving it. He just showering in it and 303 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: then lightning it. 304 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: Now, that's the one thing that can stop any football 305 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: practice a game. And I looked at him and the 306 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: water just pouring down my face, and I said, Coach, 307 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: that's a damn shame. 308 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: And to Jesus, that's enlightening for you to ease up 309 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: on us. 310 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: And coach just could not stop laughing. He was like 311 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: and I was like, man, this is the thing about him. 312 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: He all about how much work do we put in? 313 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: That's what we get afterwards. And I think that's what 314 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: he taught us is at the end of the day, 315 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: whatever you into this game is what you're gonna get 316 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: out of it. 317 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: Is that funny too, how old school coaches they love 318 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: nothing more than when it's cold outside, they'll put on 319 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: the short short They. 320 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 3: Love yt versity. That's their thing because they know that's 321 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: the true tests. That's the true tests of a man. Yeah, 322 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: what are you doing when it ain't good? That's the 323 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: true tests of a man, not when it's good. 324 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: When it's not good. Man. 325 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: We had a coach back in high school, and this 326 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: was a guy where it could be thirty degrees outside, 327 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: short sleeves, didn't care, and he would always have one liners. 328 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 329 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: And there was a running back name Ivan Rickles. Sorry, 330 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: he was a linebacker and he wore these dark he 331 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: had an I issue, so dark shades. And so there 332 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: was a play where running back Curtis Stanley Curtis comes 333 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: around the corner and I with those shades on, just 334 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: lays him out and there's a pause. It's all quiet. 335 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: Coach Pierce goes Stanley Ivan may look like Ray Charles 336 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: with those glasses on, but he can see you, and 337 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: I guarantee you he got you. 338 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: And that's real. Yeah, that's that's so real. 339 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: And then what I love about coaches, they have this 340 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: connection with us where they see us at our best 341 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: and they see us worst. Like when the game not 342 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: going good, they got to pick us up. Eventually, when 343 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: the game is going good, they gotta tone us down 344 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: to put us in the middle. 345 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 2: So I think we have a relationship with them, And 346 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: think about this. 347 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: We spend more time doing a year with our coach 348 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: than we do with our mate. Good point, So that 349 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: relationship has to have some functionality to it. And that's 350 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: why I loved Coach Gibbs and I love Greg Williams 351 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: because they presed us to the max. They literally put 352 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: you to the stove and say either you're gonna. 353 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: Do it, are you not. 354 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: So when you have a head coach like that, how 355 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: is he with you versus Clearly you had a good 356 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: relationship for that, But how is he with you? Versus 357 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: younger guys. 358 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: The rookies. 359 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: Well, Coach Gibbs were very good with the rookies and 360 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: he kind of let us as veterans and of the rookies, 361 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: and we would do the Rookies show every year, and 362 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: he would make sure that I got with the rookies. 363 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: I helped them through their routine because you know, I 364 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: love the right I love to like do shows. 365 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: I mean entertaining. I love ita. 366 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: And he would tell me, go help them out, make 367 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: sure it's a good show. And how he would do 368 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: doing the show was mock coaches mocked they what they do, 369 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: how they said, and make them sing and stuff like that. 370 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: And he knew they were bringing us together. 371 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: Like he knew I was very like welcoming and I 372 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: would make it easy for the rookies to understand that 373 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: they are part of a bigger family. And he knew 374 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't press them to the fire to the point 375 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: that I turn them away and they'll run away. He 376 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: knew I would bring them in and make them feel 377 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: like part of the family. And that did a lot 378 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: for me also because I got to know every inch 379 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: of the team. I'm one of the few players that 380 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: knew every fifty three player on the roster. Hell, I'm 381 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: connected to the seventies like I talked to Jo Jakobe, 382 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: I talked to du Wi all the time. I talked 383 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: to the new guys. So I'm connected to the seventies 384 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: to the two thousand teens. Like I love the history 385 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: of the game. I love the game itself. This game 386 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: has changed my life. And doing these times it really 387 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: became humbling that he wanted me to do those type things. 388 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: So if there was a thing or two that you 389 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: have learned from Coach Gibson, I know there's a lot 390 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: of different things because of the way you revere him 391 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: and rightfully, So what would you say those are? 392 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: Just be a good person. 393 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing he taught me is it takes no 394 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: energy to be yourself. It takes a lot of energy 395 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: to be somebody else. Like, just be yourself and that 396 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: all is taken. If you got a good heart and 397 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: you feel a certain way, good thing's gonna come to you. 398 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: And when bad things come to you. 399 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: You're gonna dig your way out at the end of 400 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: the day. Like you said, God won't put none on 401 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: you that you cannot handle. I guess what when he 402 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: puts it on. You keep going, Yeah, keep going, And 403 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: I am a I am living in bottom. Yeah that 404 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: I have been through it all the highs and lows. 405 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 3: I keep going, I persevere. It doesn't bother me. I 406 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: smile through it out well. 407 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: Joe Jackson Gibbs had three worlds the Joseph won three 408 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: world championships. So I want to talk about another world champion. 409 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: I know you saw this. Noe Lyles, sprinter for the 410 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: United States, won the one hundred meter YEP from the 411 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: DMV and so world champion twice over now. But then 412 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: after towards for some reason, he took a shot at 413 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: the NBA. For no reason, he was saying world champion 414 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: of what? Of what? The NBA is an international sport? 415 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: Do he know who Junnie is? Yo Kitchen? Do he 416 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: know the names? 417 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: Like? 418 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: Listen, the NBA is a world sport. The NFL is not. 419 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: Like the NFL belongs to America, so at the end 420 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: of the day, every other country doesn't play it. But 421 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: the NBA, soccer, baseball international sports for you to take 422 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: a shot at them, And I know how he feels 423 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: at the Olympics. 424 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: Is you against everybody? 425 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: I totally understand where he's coming from on that, But 426 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The NBA is a totally international sport that 427 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: he could not play, first of all, and when you're 428 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: talking about these guys, they are totally different than what 429 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: he's used to. So at the end of the day, 430 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: I think this, I think we misunderstood what he was saying. 431 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: I understand him in that moment. Think about being the 432 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: fasciest man on earth. Think about nobody on eight billion people. 433 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: You are the fastest person on earth. Understand where he's 434 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 3: coming from. But do not disrespect the NBA. Do not 435 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: disrespect these guys. That's great. Do not be literally and 436 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 3: say they're not an international sport. If you say an NFL, 437 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: I would have been cool with it, right, NBA international. 438 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you about that then, because some 439 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: people would say, well, it depends on how you look 440 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: at it. No one else plays the NFL but the 441 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: United States. 442 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 443 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: At the same time, if nobody else is playing it, 444 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: maybe you are world champions. How do you look at it. 445 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: I look at it as you are world champions because 446 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: you are the best team that year. 447 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: You are world champions. I just can't put it on 448 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: the level of an NBA. It is a different level. Yes, 449 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: it's a different level when every country is playing it. 450 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 3: Like until we got guys from China, Japan, India playing 451 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 3: the game, it's not worldly. And I understand the world 452 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: watches it. The super Bowl is the most watched sport 453 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: event of everything. But until we have the whole world planet, 454 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: it's not a world school. 455 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: We have some breaking news that you Commanders fans are 456 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: gonna want to hear. It is official. Seat Geek is 457 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: now the official ticketing partner of the Washington Commanders. That's right, 458 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: the deal, those fine lines, and Seat Geek is the 459 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: newest member of the Commander's family. If you haven't heard 460 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: the name yet, get used to it because you'll be 461 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: hearing it a lot more this season. 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It was like faded on the 473 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: side and it went down in the back. I wore 474 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: it like two days and for everybody just texted me like, 475 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: you don't cut that off your head. You look terrible 476 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: like Toddy. Oh I look like Major. I looked just 477 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: like Major Tuddy. It was a damn shame. But I 478 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 3: embraced the criticism, okay, and I went and got it 479 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: cut off. 480 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: Did you I did? 481 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 482 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: When I was in college, smooth, I went to Supercuts 483 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 1: six dollars and six dollars. 484 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: You can't get nothing for you can't get a sneaker 485 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: for the hour. 486 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: Because I've had cyburns forever, right, And this is when 487 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: my eyes quit taking the contact. I couldn't wear contacts. 488 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: How to get serge your minds? But I couldn't see. 489 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: And so this dude cuts my hair and he's like, 490 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: how does it look? I was like, it looks pretty good. 491 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: But then I got home and I swear to God, 492 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: I was looking in the mirror and I got real 493 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: close and this cyburb was fun. And I swear to God, 494 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: there was a strand of it. You could flick it 495 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: with your finger and I was like, what wispy? So 496 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: then I had to cut it both high above it. 497 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, like I was in the military. 498 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: It was brutal. Oh no, it hurts. Just the one 499 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: thing about it is that's why I love criticism. 500 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: Like the think about it is you. We don't see 501 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: ourselves how other people see us. Yeah, so when other 502 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: people say something, I take heat to it, like I 503 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: really take heat to it. 504 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: Well, we gotta transition a little bit into college football. 505 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: It's week one of. 506 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: Coe college football. 507 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: Okay, so what do you do because I'll tell you 508 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: what on college fall Saturday, I'm locked in. I got drinks. 509 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: I got wings. I always have wings. 510 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: Oh no, the wings are the ultimate thing. Now he 511 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: go to question with you. Okay, is it a such 512 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: thing as boneless wings? Because I don't think this. No, 513 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: I think it's an Oxen Moore run. They're not. They're chicken. Yeah, chickens. 514 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: Like you want me to believe that a bone wing 515 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: is walking around here. 516 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 2: No he's not. 517 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: You rename tenders and now they're blowing up like they 518 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: are not boneless wings. They are short chicken tenders. How 519 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: about we renamed it and they. 520 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: Also taste totally different, I think, because it's it's brist meat. 521 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I so guess what because. 522 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: You don't get the dark meet in there too. 523 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: Hey, they're not chicken wings. 524 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 3: And I want America to stop that, Like I want 525 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: to sue TJ AD Fridays. I want to sue them 526 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: all for saying boneless wings because it's not a such thing. 527 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't exist. 528 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: So what does your college football Saturday it look like? 529 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: All Right? 530 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: I wake up early in the morning. I get that 531 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: grill going. Oh I'm a big grill guy. I get 532 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 3: that grill going. I get my meat on my grill, 533 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: and I see my kids. No, do not mess with 534 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: daddy on Saturday. I sat on their cow so much. 535 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: It's just but imprints on it. I don't move. I 536 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 3: turned the channel back and forth because I start out 537 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: with my SEC then I ain't with my PAC team 538 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: because no PAC team play at one o'clock at night. 539 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 540 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: I watch college football, and I think I'm just so 541 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: attracted to college football because I know all the players 542 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: out there are dreamers. Yeah, they're dreaming about playing on 543 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: the next level, and they playing for school spirit. 544 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 2: It's like nothing like representing your school. 545 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 3: Like when I was a Mississippi State Bulldog, I enjoyed 546 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 3: every day of it because it's us. 547 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: Against y'all mentality. 548 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: It ain't just the football players, it's the whole school, 549 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: no doubt the school spirit. 550 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: Like people don't understand SEC Sunday, I mean Saturday. 551 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: It's different than in the wild. When I got to 552 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: the league, the crowds were smaller. True though, when I 553 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: play the Alabama ninety thousand, I played the LSU one 554 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: hundred thousand. 555 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: I played it all but eighty thousand. 556 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: Like, I'm sorry, I have been in a game in Alabama. 557 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: The ground just shaking, the ground just shaking. I'm like, 558 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: this is different than inexperience you have ever experienced, than. 559 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: The stylegia of it. You never forget it. As a player, 560 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: you can actually an Allen. 561 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: You can ask any of these guys, nothing compares to 562 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 3: a Sunday in the SEC. 563 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, a Saturday rather. 564 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: And you always say NFL guys. They talked about the NFL, 565 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: They talked about college. 566 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: Yes, because we are we are intimately connected to that. 567 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: You never forget your part of who you are, This 568 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: this part of your identity. This one of who you 569 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: will always be. And after the NFL, guess what, we 570 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 3: go back to those colleges, like we we give back 571 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 3: to those colleges. We get time to those colleges and 572 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 3: hopefully our sons go play at those college. So it's different. 573 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: How's missip State gonna be the shit? 574 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: Oh, We're gonna be good. And I don't think about it. 575 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 3: I can said about this new coach, new era, new time. 576 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: We got a great quarterback, we always got great defensive linemen, 577 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: and we always got great defensive backs. That's side thing. 578 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: I think we have a great offense this year. And 579 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 3: guess what, nobody picks us to win it, right because 580 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: l is shoes of the world, Alabama's of the world, 581 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: Georgia's of the world. 582 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: Watch out for the Bulldogs. 583 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 3: If you a homebee dog will bite you, James if 584 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: we are homebry all right. 585 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: So there are different celebrities, yeah, in Hollywood wherever, and 586 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: they have their teams right. Actually, Judge, big Kentucky basketball 587 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: fan mitcke McConaughey is a big Texas football fan, huge 588 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: Redskins fan, Commanders fan. Now, so I know you know 589 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: him quite a bit. What has been your coolest celebrity 590 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: running at a game or anywhere, Well, you've got a few. 591 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: Me and Matthew mcconnough hay very close. I talked to him, 592 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: I have an interviewed him many times. He loves Washington 593 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: like this his thing. And actually I can say this 594 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 3: as a celebrity. My jersey is in his basement. He 595 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: probably the biggest celebrity that's on jersey is in his basement. 596 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: And you know, his mom lives with him. He loves 597 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 3: his mom, like I enjoyed it about him. He's a 598 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 3: Southerner and he's very much like me. We don't take 599 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: ourselves too serious, and I like love that about him. 600 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: He's very just salt of the earth type person. I 601 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 3: enjoyed talking to him. He believes we're gonna win the Super. 602 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: Bowl every year. That's the only thing. 603 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: I just disagree with him all the time. Sometimes he'll 604 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: be like, Matthew, we're not going to be that good 605 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: this year. As long as we beat the Cowboys, that's 606 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: all that matters. Because you know, he lives in Texas. 607 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: He loves the fact that he gets to talk to us, 608 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 3: and I was shocked the first time I talked with 609 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 3: because he was more excited to talk to me than 610 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: I was to talk to him. 611 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: It blew my mind away. 612 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 3: So most definitely Matthew McConaughey, one of the best Washington 613 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: fans of all time. Hey, one of my good friends. 614 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: I can say that. But the biggest celebrity probably Michael Jordan. 615 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: Hey, think about this, that's a good one. 616 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: When I got to Washington and O one, the football 617 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 3: team had Darre Green yellow jacket, Bruce Smith yellow jacket. 618 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: The basketball team was Michael Jordan and the Wizards. We 619 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: had Yager and the mule with the with the soccer, 620 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: I mean, with the jacket team, it was just star study. 621 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 3: But they was all old veterans, and I read with 622 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: Bruce smilt, Bruce Smith with my dude, he kind of 623 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 3: took me on his wing and boy him, Charles Oakley 624 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 3: and Michael Jordan's they was all close. 625 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: So they brought me in. 626 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: He brought me into the fold, and I used to 627 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: just go everywhere with him. And I was just blowing 628 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: away because first of all, if you with Michael Jordan, 629 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 3: Charles Oakland, and Bruce Smith, nobody knows who the other 630 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: guy is. 631 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: I was the other guy. 632 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: I was the other guy just tagging along, and I'll 633 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: never forget he threw me a birthday party. Bruce Smith 634 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 3: and Michael Jordan threw me a birthday party. 635 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: And it was electric. And I had never seen somebody 636 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: walking to a place in the music just shop and 637 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: everybody just watching him as he walks through his slow motion. 638 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, am I the. 639 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: Only person seeing this dude walking your time? And this 640 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 3: slow motion? Is Michael Jordan just walking through here? And 641 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 3: it just blew everybody away. And I was like, you 642 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 3: know what, I made it? Just when I figured that 643 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: I made it, Michael Jordan's throwing Fred Smoother party. I 644 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: help made it biggest celebrity of all time. Like we 645 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 3: know who Michael Jordan is. Yes, I'm sorry. He literally 646 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: came out with shoes when I was young, and now 647 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: I got to buy him again for my kids. 648 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: He charged me two hundred dollars for It's a different experience. 649 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it so much. 650 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: I was just like I said, I was blown away 651 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: by it at the time. 652 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: And now that I go back and think about it, 653 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: how did you even live it? 654 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: Like like I'm asking myself, how did you even live it? 655 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: Without being blown away? By because at the time I 656 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: was thinking none of it. I was twenty years old, 657 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: like I was thinking none of it. 658 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: I had a few celebrity runnings. I met McConaughey two 659 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: three times. The first time I met him was it's 660 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: the best run I ever had. Was that's when I 661 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: first started here in DC. It's like, oh, man, almost 662 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, and they were just throwing money around. 663 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we need to send you after Hollywood. 664 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: There's this movie and it's called Two for the Money. 665 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: Al Pacino's in it, Matthew McConaughey's in it. Renee Russo's 666 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: in it. We're gonna send you out to Beverly Hills 667 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: and ain't gonna talk to these guys. I'm like, that's 668 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: my assignment, all right. They fly me out there. First 669 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: of all, I'm in a bar the day before and 670 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm just there by myself. It's a classic Hollywood. Dude 671 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: next to me strikes up a conversation and I tell 672 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: him what I'm doing. He goes, hold on one second, 673 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: grab his phone. Yeah yeah, man, I gotta gut here. 674 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: What your day, Michael J. Yeah, we gotta hook you up. 675 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: Man. Yeah. 676 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: He's a star. He's an absolute star. I'm like, I 677 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: just met you. So I was like, that's weird. So 678 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: I go to this junket right Pacino's not there. Talk 679 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: to McCane for about five minutes. 680 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: He was cool. 681 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: I go to talk to Renee Russo about two and 682 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: a half minutes in. She could not have been more bored. 683 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta switch this up. So I go, Renee, 684 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: what else do you like to do? And it was 685 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: like I light one off. She goes, excuse me, I go, 686 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: you've done this for a long time. 687 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: What else do you enjoy? She goes, I don't know. 688 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: I just like to do something. 689 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: I want to do something that's real. 690 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: I like your Renee voice. 691 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. 692 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: Morgan Freeman is from Mississippi. 693 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, two hundred acres in Mississippi, and he has nothing 694 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: but bees on his land. 695 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: Really well, you know, if bees come up missing, we're through. 696 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: We have nothing to pollinate the earth. So he's a 697 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: big earth guy. And that's how I kind of got 698 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: into my own thing where I wanted my own farm 699 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: and I wanted to do my own thing. 700 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Because of Margan Freeman. 701 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: Aren't you gonna do that now? 702 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 703 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: Most definitely in West Virginia. Two hundred acres in West Virginia. 704 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: I want waggle cows, twenty acre lake. I'm a stocket 705 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: all that. I grow my own stuff, you know how 706 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: I like to grow my. 707 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Own right now. 708 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, I think, if 709 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: you can grow your own stuff and love earth and 710 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: horness it, I think it's it takes it to another 711 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: level and I enjoy it. 712 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: It's freeing. It freeze my mind to do it. 713 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: See, I appreciate that about you because you were saying 714 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: you actually now like to mow you on launch. 715 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: I loved him on my own grass like it's like 716 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: nothing like mowing your own piece of the earth. Like 717 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: I think, once you become a house owner, a homeowner, 718 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: it's a privilege to mow your grad. And plus when 719 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: I tear my boys to go out there and moto grass, 720 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: they don't do the job right. 721 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: I want my last certain way. 722 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I do it in like a baseball field. 723 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: Yes, And it's. 724 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: Relaxing now that you can put your earbuds and I 725 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: can listen to music. 726 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: I listen to YouTube. 727 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: I could listen to a podcast or break down while 728 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: I'm doing it. It is fulfilling to me. In the 729 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: smell of grass, it does some I'm an ex football. 730 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: When you have freshly cut grass. 731 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: It smells a certain way, it feels a certain way. 732 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: All I want to just lay in the grass and 733 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: make butterflies in it. 734 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. 735 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: I used to level when I was younger. The problem is, 736 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: when I was younger, my brother and I had to 737 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: split up duties. We lived on about an acre and 738 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: we had to molder grass, weedy edge. And then one 739 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: thing happened. I'm small town in Texas. We won yard 740 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: of the month on the Chamber of Commerce. Worst thing 741 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: to ever happen, because then Mama's like every too. Because 742 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: of the small town. People will drive by, Let's look 743 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: at the let's look at the yard. Oh and so 744 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, every two days we're out there 745 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: trimming it up, you know, edging again, making sure look 746 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: good for everybody. Worst thing to ever happen. 747 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 3: I was a crook, like my dad used to be, 748 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: like moded grass. Before I get home, I would go 749 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: break the lumb or like take a wheel off, like 750 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: I was thrown, Like I was totally thrown because I 751 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 3: wanted to go play I wanted to go play football. 752 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: I want to go do something else. And this is 753 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: a funny thing about it. My mom was pregnant with me. 754 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: I didn't know it. Okay, she was playing football with 755 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: my uncles. My uncles tappled with my mom. She started 756 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: to throw up. They took her to the hospital and 757 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: they said, you are pregnant. She found out she was 758 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 3: pregnant with me playing football. So I was like, I 759 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: was just meant to play again. 760 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: You were playing football before you're out of the womb. 761 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: I was even out the womb. I was already getting 762 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: tackled the field. So when Coach Gibb told. 763 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: Me, I think he was born to play football, it 764 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 3: hit me in a different one. 765 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: You were you were born to play football. So we 766 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: got job before we wrap things up. We got a 767 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: week before we going to get to Arizona Cardinals. What 768 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: do you do this week off? 769 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: I'm just going enjoy it. I think I'm gonna go 770 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: down to North Carolina. 771 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: See Coach Gibbs. Oh, like that's something something I do 772 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: all the time. I'm gonna go down North Carolina enjoy 773 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks with him. I mean a couple 774 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: of days with him. 775 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: Enjoy that. 776 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: And Plus, we can't let this podcast go by without 777 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 3: talking about a wrestler, at least a wrestler. Guess what, 778 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: co Ko be Well, it's the dude of the week 779 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: most definitely Coco be Well was the character and I 780 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: you know, I love to bring my wrestling up. 781 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: I was so like mad when I found out it 782 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: was fake. Oh my god. When I found out. 783 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: Mean Gene Oakland was literally just acting he was in 784 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: on it. 785 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: It threw me off. Man. I love him out your 786 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: man rad and Savage. 787 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: I thought he was a character and I love watching 788 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: I watched something on Netflix and who hold him Like 789 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: he can't turn it off? Nope, he cannot turn it off. 790 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: So he would just get out the ring and be 791 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: every day and Hogan would call him like what a ho? 792 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 3: Like he could not turn it off. 793 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: So I enjoyed people that can't lead a character. 794 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: You gotta get the name in once a podcast, Andre 795 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: the Giant. 796 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm Jack. We gonna get loud for you. 797 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: All right, there we go. That's it for the Get 798 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: Loud podcast. Frets Move Michael Jakins, presented by Seat Geek. 799 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: Enjoy the Week. Week one coming up? 800 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 801 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying the Get Loud podcast, but the 802 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: content never stops, right Fred, never gonna stop never. We 803 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: got the Command Center podcast on Wednesday, command Center on Thursday. 804 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: And it's a tough week around here a little bit. 805 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it is. It's the week of Rick and then 806 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: what we call it at the end of the day. 807 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: I feel for the guys that don't make it, but 808 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: the fifty three dollars don't start a new ever regular season. 809 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: Almost there. It's all this week. The views and opinions 810 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: expressed by our podcast guests and or hosts are their 811 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: own and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions 812 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: of the Washington Commanders or any of their representatives.