1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: Such a pleasure to have you board tonight as we 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: get ever so closer to training camp. And I've said 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: that for weeks now, but it's really true now. I 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: mean when we are three and a half weeks away. 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: It was three and a half weeks away. That's one thing. 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: But it's Wednesday morning and we're all very excited about it. 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: Mark Vandermin and John Harris with you, and we're on 9 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: the hun Day Texans Radio studio where we camp out 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: talk Texans, get you ready for the twenty twenty six campaign, 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: and the General John McLain, the Hall of Famer joining 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: us as well. 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: In general. 14 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: Before we go anywhere, I want to say that your 15 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: piece on Missus McNair on Houston Texans dot com was awesome, 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: is awesome. People should go on read it. It's terrific. 17 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: I know the mcnairs love it. Tremendous job. General, Thank 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: you very much for doing that. 19 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 3: Well, thank you. When they asked me about being interested 20 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 3: in doing it, of course I said yes because I'm Luy, 21 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: Jens and Bob since go over thirty years when I 22 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: first went over to their house to do it interview 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 3: for the chronicle about how serious they were about getting 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: the franchise. I determined they were, and I was so 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: impressed right away, and as I got to know them 26 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 3: through the decades, I was even more impressed. I never 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: known someone like Janice who had no ego whatsoever. And 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: one of the things I learned I did not know 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 3: is what a great athlete she was. In high school 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: in Orangeburg, South Carolina, and I have a class had 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: classmates voted her everything you could possibly be voted, starting 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: with the prettiest in school. And then cal told me 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: I didn't know this, and she played plank football. I 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 3: did know the head flank football back then for women, 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: and she wanted to be the quarterback, but they thought 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: she'd be a better middle linebacker and all of us 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: and I know that is hard to envision, and I 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: don't care how young Janis was thinking that Jana's McNair 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: in the Dick Bufest type role. It just doesn't It's 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: hard to envision. But she was something else. Gentle but boys, 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: she could be tough when she needed to be. I remember, 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: and I've never seen this anywhere, I've never written it, 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: her said it, but I'll say it now. One of 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: the first things that she told Bob was about the 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: cheerleaders that when they had formed the Houston Texas Cheerleaders, 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: she didn't want their outfits to be like some teams, 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: and she was adamant about that, and of course they've 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: never been, but they've been a huge hit. And the 49 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: fact that Flag Football, through her and now Hannah, is 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: so important to this organization. I understand why. I knew 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: why Hannah was interested in it, but I never had 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: any idea that that would have generated when jan is 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 3: going back when she was in South Carolina. So it's 54 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: a huge loss for the Jagsons. It's a huge loss 55 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: for Houston that they've given away about as much as 56 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: they paid for the France franchise, or record seven hundred 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: million in cow and Hannah are continuing that and Houston 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: just lost a great lady. And you guys know all 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: those tributes that came in last last week. She would 60 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: have been so embarrassed people saying such nice things about her. 61 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: And she was just so humble that way that she 62 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: didn't think she deserves stuff, which was another reason she 63 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: was special and did deserve. 64 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: It general she was I mean, she's all the things 65 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: you said I mean, she was just incredible. But she 66 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: was also a very big fan of this team. I 67 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: know we all want to say going to the Super Bowl, 68 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: winning a super Bowl, But in your heart of hearts, 69 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: what would have made Janie proud of this in particular 70 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: team in twenty twenty six, A very talented team, a 71 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: team that could go win a Super Bowl? What do 72 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: you think would have made Janis very proud of what 73 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: this team is to be upcoming this year. 74 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: Well, her personality in which she's like Bob. They were 75 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: always positive. They didn't want to hear anything negative. And 76 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: I wrote this sometimes when she'd asked me I was doing, 77 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: I'd say I'd be done a lot better if your 78 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: team was winning more games. And she was always, oh, 79 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: we're gonna bounce back. You know, we're gonna do the 80 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: injuries of this And Bob was the same way. So 81 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: she was proud of her players or coaches. She loved 82 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: Jamiico like everybody does. She was particularly close with Andre 83 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: Johnson since he was their first star, first one in 84 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, first player in the rafters now 85 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: him and JJ Watt, and I think, of course she 86 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: was I started training at the mini camp Karen Richards, 87 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: who was her caregiver who they were in separate bowl, 88 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 3: became a good friend. Karen did such a tremendous job 89 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: for Janis, especially after she had her stroke in which 90 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: she has to be in a wheelchair. And Jazz was 91 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: sharp as attack and I always liked it when she'd 92 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: have a roster, she'd have notebook and she'd take notes 93 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: in practice, take notes and games. Karen always make sure 94 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: she could see the field, whether it was a practice 95 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: field or the football field in the stadium. But of 96 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: course she would have loved the Super Bowl, and she'd 97 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: loved to go on to the playoffs and just had 98 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: a chance for a Super Bowl. And I think that 99 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: Dimiko will dedicate this season to her like they did 100 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: to Bob when he died in twenty and eighteen. And 101 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: she's going to be missed by a lot of people 102 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: and her presence. She hadn't been around as much as 103 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: she used to be, but the fact when she did 104 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 3: come around, you know, she was surrounded by everybody. One 105 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: quick story that's in the story when we wanted to 106 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: surprise her Houston Sports Awards that we were going to 107 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: give her a lifetime Achievement award, just like Bob d 108 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: So they'd be the first couple dad a Lifetime Achievement award. 109 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: So we wanted to surprise her before game, and uh, 110 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: Hanna and Cows said it, and there were people from 111 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: the sports authority in John Lopez and I when they 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: brought when Karen Richards pushed her wheelchair over to where 113 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: we were and we surprised her. She was surprised, all right, 114 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: and when we told her what it was, she did 115 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: put her hand on her chest and like in that 116 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: southern accent, well, I don't deserve this, and she meant it. 117 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 3: She didn't think she did, but she did. And we 118 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: knew she was happy in her old or most were 119 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: family was there and it was a proud moment. Then 120 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: of course when she went up in the rafters, boy 121 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: that was an even bigger one to be up there 122 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: with Bob and JJ and Andre and she thought she 123 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: didn't deserve it either, And that humbleness I have never 124 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: seen in a person as much as it was with 125 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 3: Janie always asking people how they were doing. One time 126 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: she hearded me talking to Bob about a treatment I 127 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: had written about a script about high school football in 128 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: eighteen ninety eight, and she asked me. Then she asked 129 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: me she could read it, and I took it to 130 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: her because it's the best thing I've ever written, and 131 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: she read it, and she must have asked me about 132 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 3: when I was going to write the script twenty times 133 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: and she said, well, last time she asked me, I said, Jannis, 134 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: please stop asking me about it. The internets come out. 135 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: I don't have time to focus on it. She said, 136 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: am I going to have to write that for you? 137 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: And I said, please do. But she was interested in 138 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: what others were doing about their lives and everything. And 139 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: that's just one of the many great things about Janis McNair. 140 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: Well services for Missus McNair are tomorrow, and we can't 141 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: say enough about her what she's meant to this team. 142 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: And thanks so much for writing that story in Houston 143 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: Texans dot Com General and we love catching up with 144 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: you to go over some of the things that have 145 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: been happening with the Texans, with the NFL, and in 146 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: this case with our flagship station. It is ninety five 147 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: to seven the Fan as of August thirteenth, we're gonna 148 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,359 Speaker 2: go on FM. 149 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: I know you know the history of all of it. 150 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: Sports Radio six ten you've been I'm from the get 151 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: go general Your thoughts on the switch to FM and 152 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: the new brand, Well. 153 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 3: It's great. Number one still going to be on sixteen 154 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: for anybody being confused. But the thing about AM radio, 155 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: a lot of cars don't even have a radio, yikes. 156 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: So this is a really big deal for all the 157 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: guys there because no static anymore. And I've had so 158 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: many people through the decades asking me when is six 159 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: ten gonna go FM? And I'm still on there with 160 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: you guys like tonight and I do with Patrick crighton 161 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: and Sean Johnny Wendy Night season starts, I'll be on 162 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: with you guys on Monday morning and there's somebody who's 163 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: on there like you guys are. Everybody is so happy 164 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: and the listeners are gonna benefit, and I think it's 165 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: a cool logo. Ninety five point seven FM is just 166 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: something that was long overdue. 167 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 4: Yes, definitely, And remember I tell you yesterday, Mark, one 168 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: of my affiliates when I was doing overnight radio National 169 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: Radio was ninety five to seven the fan out in 170 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: the Bay Area, and it's exactly ninety five seven the 171 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 4: fan in the Bay Area, So it'd be very, very 172 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 4: clear ninety five seven fan in Well. 173 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: There's a sports radio six ten in Kansas City or 174 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if they fill it that way, but 175 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: it's a six ten am. 176 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: Sports is six ten am speaking of I'm glad you 177 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: brought Kansas City mark. I don't know if you guys 178 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: saw this yesterday. Have y'all seen the new renderings of 179 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: the three billion dollar stadium the Chiefs are about to 180 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: build in in Kansas in twenty thirty one. 181 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: I saw that was like that halls. 182 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: Are that's gonna end up being like five billion because 183 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 3: any amount of money you put on it, now you 184 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: put a couple more bayon on it. 185 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: Yep. 186 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: And I still can't believe they're leaving Kansas City. But 187 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: it's not that far to go from Kansas City to 188 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: Kansas You can see it. It's kind of like coming 189 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: into six ten and looking on ten and fifty nine 190 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: and forty five and looking and seeing downtown used them. 191 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: But it's still strange and good for them. Kansas wants 192 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: to fork over that money. More power to them. 193 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: General training camps coming up, and I know all of 194 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: us have been on. 195 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: Different radio shows. 196 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: Hey what do you what are you gonna be watching 197 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: that training camp, and of course we say CJ. Stroud, 198 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: we say the offensive line. So I'm gonna take those 199 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 4: two out of the conversation. Taking CJ. Stroud in the 200 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: offensive line, those are big, I know. But beyond those two, 201 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: where do your eyes go during early parts of training camp? 202 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not just gonna look at the weak parts 203 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 3: because we're not gonna know about this offensive line till 204 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 3: like till like get into this season. Remember last year 205 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: how quick they got rid of the left tackle on 206 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: the left guard, So it's gonna be a work in progress. 207 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 3: I do want to watch Keelan Less snap the ball 208 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: to CJ. Strad That is so important and I'm wondering 209 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: and training and in preseason games. Does Rutly just need 210 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: to play a lot at center because you can't have 211 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 3: exchanges mishandled. Also, another very important thing for Strodd and 212 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: mccayley is speeding up the process to get the ball 213 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: snap quicker so changes can be made. And that's great. 214 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: But I want to see Jayden Higgins jaaln knowll can't 215 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: wait till when Tank Dale gets on the field. Don't 216 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: know if it'll be right away or he'll be on 217 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: puff or what. But just watching all those workout videos 218 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: they put out of him, it just gets you so excited. 219 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: But the truth is the best thing about this team 220 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: is the defense. I love watching the defense, even though 221 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: we're not going to see a whole lot of hard 222 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: hitting till the Raiders come in here for joint practice. 223 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: But I want to watch the dbs. I love watching 224 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: Tomorrow Laster and I think he is so smart to 225 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: work out in a helmet and shoulder fans. All players 226 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: should be doing that in off season. Can't wait to 227 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: see Derek Stinger Junior and all Od Kaylin Bullock. Want 228 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: to see Reed Blankenship and how Eve graciates himself into 229 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: the second there the second's the best in the NFL. 230 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: The defensive ends have the best package. The linebackers, the 231 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: two starters are among the best, and I think the 232 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: interior defensive line with Sheldon Rankins and then Tommy Togia 233 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: coming back playing in a contract here in Kate McDonald 234 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: being a player that most people, if you ask the 235 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 3: gurus around the country, give me a pig you think 236 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: will really stand out that's not in the top ten, say. 237 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: A lot of them point to McDonald because of the talent, 238 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: but also about the coaching and the people around them. 239 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: If you're an interior defensive lineman on this team, knowing 240 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: they got to worry about Hutter and Anderson, you got 241 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: to feel like you died and went to heaven. 242 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: John McClain joining us general. We did this the other day. 243 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: You mentioned a lot of things there about this football team. 244 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: Give me a position group that maybe we're not talking 245 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: about much. We've talked about all of them, I know, 246 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: but that excites you. A position group that's not getting 247 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: the ink the pub the juice out in the media 248 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: or with the fans that maybe should be based on 249 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: what they have potentially. Is there one that sticks out 250 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: to you on this Houston Texans roster? 251 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: The one that that worries me and should worry Texans 252 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: fans right now, But we'll see in camp. Is tied 253 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: end that Schultz is so important to what Stroud wants 254 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: to do. If he goes down right now, they're in trouble. 255 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: Would be I think we'd agree. Asking Marlon Klein, a 256 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: one year starter taking in the second round to be 257 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: able to fill those shoes would be too much to 258 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: has Copley bredent, Jordan can stay healthy, because he's proven 259 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: he can make some plays. But I'm really eager. And 260 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: I saw this yesterday in The Athletic talking about new players, 261 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: and Vic Taffer from wrote that David Montgomery that kind 262 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: of slung beneath the ray dar, but he liked it. 263 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: It was better among the best moves he'd seen an 264 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: off season, and I agree him as a starter, Woody 265 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: Mark's coming off the bench to catch the pazzes, Montgomery 266 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: getting the carries close to the goal line, which is 267 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: where he specializes in watching those two guys, the battle 268 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: for the third running back between Jordan and Brooks and 269 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: maybe some other guys, but also seeing how these new 270 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: guys run block. So I guess to say the running 271 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: game period, but especially David Montgomery, if he can do 272 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: for the Texans what he did for the Lions, he 273 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: may be the best trade of the off season. The 274 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: key is, of course, the Lions a whole lot better 275 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: offensive line than the Texans have shown. 276 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 4: Okay, this is for both of you, but generally I 277 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 4: want your reaction to this. I got a text from 278 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: somebody we all know. I won't tell you who, but 279 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: it just said. Jane Slater of NFL Network said that 280 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: Montgomery and Marx will split lead back reps this season. 281 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: And then I got asked the question, is that accurate 282 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: from what you've seen or heard? So then I went 283 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: and I eventually found the tweet that this person was 284 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: referring to, and that's exactly what it said. Jane Slater 285 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: said they're gonna split lead back reps. Later on, she 286 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: responded to it and was like, well known that she's 287 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: kind of backing away from her original prediction. General, how 288 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 4: do you think it will go at the running back 289 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: position if. 290 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: Both guys stay healthy? 291 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 4: Do you think it is Montgomery is one and what 292 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: he marks is one B, but he does a lot 293 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: of the third down stuff, catches more balls on the backfield. 294 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: Do you think it's more of that? Or do you 295 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: think it is they are gonna split carries? 296 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: Like Jane Slater says, First of all. 297 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: Jane does a great job covering Cowboys, and I respect 298 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: the heck out of her, Plus I like her a lot, 299 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: And but nobody knows that right now, what if David 300 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: Montgomery raises one hundred and fifty yards in the first 301 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: two games, you think he's going to be splitting carries? No, 302 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: right now, he has looked at as the starter. What 303 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: he marks his number two, what he'll get a lot 304 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 3: of playing time. But truthfully, David Montgomery, they made that 305 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: trade to have him to carry the ball his short 306 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: yardage goal line. He's a touchdown scene. But I think 307 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 3: it would be a thing like maybe toudging the ball 308 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 3: fifteen and ten times. In the perfect world, hopefully they 309 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: don't have games where they fall behind and croud to 310 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: ask throw it forty times. But their running games should 311 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: be vastly improved. That it should start up front if 312 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: they can stay healthy and play the way they're capable of. 313 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: But David Montgomery's going to be the starter unless we 314 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: nobody could know something like that at this point. You know, 315 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: there's just no way anybody could know that. 316 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: I agree with the general. I was going to say that, Johnny, 317 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: how do you know, I mean, this is a field 318 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: to me, certainly, Montgomery's gonna be the first guy there 319 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: everybody being healthy, right, and Woody's going to be the 320 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: second guy there, probably third down situation. You and I 321 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: talked about it. There's no Dara on this football team. 322 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: General Jawar Jordan could figure into the mix. You could 323 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: see a world where wood he's the second guy. Maybe 324 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: Jordan's getting some third down back reps or maybe he's 325 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: the second third down back in there. I think what 326 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: he's certainly the first, but maybe throughout the course of 327 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 2: the game to give Jawar some touches as well. You 328 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 2: never know how this stuff is going to shape up. 329 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: And then you got British Brooks to talk about. Johnny 330 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: and I were talking about this yesterday. When you factor 331 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: in the tight end group, if Revin Jordan gets to 332 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: the starting line really healthy, you look good in the 333 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: preseason in training camp, you might have some good problems there. 334 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: How many guys do we keep out of this tight 335 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: end group? And then does Jordan take reps away from 336 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: British Brooks. I don't know how that factors into special 337 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: teams your thought of the whole mix. 338 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: Well, Books is a special tames Demon and he can 339 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: play full back and he hits people hard. And George, 340 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: I don't see him playing three running backs if everybody's healthy, 341 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: unless they're blowing people out and they don't need to 342 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: play the first two. But right now, Montgomery is Marx 343 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: and Woody is like Higgins, and Noel, the guy that 344 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: is going into his second year when he should show 345 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: his most improvement. So I'm really fired enough about seeing 346 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: him because he contributed more than they anticipated because you know, 347 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: Joe Maxon was putting the witness protection program. 348 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 4: He definitely was general one of the teams of Texas 349 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: play this year. And I saw this pop up and 350 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: get a little X or Twitter kerfuffle amongst a few 351 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 4: different people. But Dak Prescott was asked a question somewhere 352 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: sometime and he said, the expectation is for us to 353 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 4: go to the Super Bowl, that being the Cowboys. How 354 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: much better do you think the Cowboys are this year 355 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 4: versus what they were last year when the defense was 356 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 4: a mess. Yes, Dak was there and he was healthy, 357 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 4: But can the Cowboys be a team in that NFC East, 358 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: in the NFC that can push to be a Super 359 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 4: Bowl contending team? Is Dak on the right track with 360 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: that team or is he just saying what everybody should 361 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: say about their NFL team at this point? 362 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: Plul offense was great last year. You know they did 363 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 3: something with George Pickings that Mike Tomlin and Steelers couldn't 364 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: do it. Can't get them on the straight and narrow. 365 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: He done everything right. 366 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 5: This softseason, they'll hold out signed his franchise tag and 367 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 5: everything they've got to improve on his defense. They had 368 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 5: really good issue, really good most on personnel last year. 369 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 3: I picked them to be when the NFC East to 370 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: be thrown Philadelphia, and then they'll lose in the first 371 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 3: round the playoffs. All the Cowboys fans'll be crushed. But 372 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: I'll say this, Nate Tics has covered the NFL a 373 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: long time. I saw him on a podcast take in 374 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: all Texas super Bowl and the only problem was he 375 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: thinking Cowboys to win. And of course I think everybody 376 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: would love to see the Texas and the Cowboys in 377 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: the super Bowl because the rest of the country wouldn't matter. 378 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 3: But I think both of them are capable, but they 379 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 3: have different problems. Texan's Super Bowl chances and Jong Hofins 380 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: Cowboys super Bowl chances and. 381 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: Jong defense general Daniel Jones is good to go apparently 382 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: according to him, right and Patrick Mahomes should be ready 383 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: week one, according to I guess everybody in him. How 384 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: blown is your mind that these kinds of things can happen? 385 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: I mean, Jones were talking about Achilles here and it 386 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: was late fairly and good to go week one? 387 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? 388 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: I know Rogers came back to practice that year he 389 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 2: got hurt with Jets when he ran out with the 390 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: American flag and lasted four plays. But this is mind 391 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: blowing to me that these guys are going to be 392 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: totally ready to go week one. And I know you 393 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: could probably cite lots of examples where the achilles was 394 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: a two year sabbatical for a player at least. What 395 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: are your thoughts on medical advancements and will those guys 396 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: really be ready? 397 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: And there's different levels of achilles injuries to make out 398 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 3: me a great guy to talk to about that because 399 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: torn achilles basically cost him his career and i' mna 400 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: afford that different now the surgery, the doctors are better, 401 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: the READD specialists, like the Jackson said, great doctors, great 402 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: read people, great of strength and READD people, So they're 403 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: all in better hands. And a lot of it depends, 404 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: of course, on how much the guy puts into it. 405 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: But just saying they're going to be ready doesn't mean 406 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: they are. It won't be at all. We don't see 407 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: those guys. They're taking it easy on them at the 408 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 3: started training camp, and we don't see in the preseason, 409 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: and then they see if they're ready to go, and 410 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: even if they are, it doesn't mean they're going to 411 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: be where they were before they got injured. 412 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: General, you had a little function you did at Texas 413 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 4: High School Coaching School as they call it. 414 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: What was that event like? 415 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 4: You had a number of I saw the picture and 416 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 4: I still think that Richmond Webb could probably still play today. 417 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: He looked amazing sitting on the edge. 418 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: But you got a little question to answer session with 419 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 4: some legends at Texas Coaching School. 420 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: What was that like a few days ago? 421 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had in Houston. This year's in San Antonio. 422 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: The last two to be back in San Antonio next year, 423 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: and it's always an honor. It's the great Iron legends 424 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: who are sponsored by the Tender Texans Bowl. And the 425 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 3: first day the Texans sponsor a big receptions and they 426 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: do it dinner. The Cowboys don't do squat. But you 427 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: had seventeen thousand coaches from high schools and colleges at 428 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: the convention. And the next day, the second day, my 429 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: host a panel and this year on that panel Richmond Wabbub, 430 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: seven time Pro Bowl left tackle for Miami, Jerry Ball, 431 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: three time Pro Bowl nose tackle for Detroit and other teams. 432 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: Michael Bishop, who played ahead of Tom Brady and Brady's 433 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: rookie year with the Patriots. Michael's the new receivers coach 434 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 3: at U of H. And then there were some great 435 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: coaches here from high school. I always loved being around 436 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: these guys, Chris Mansey, Dick Olin, Keith Kilgore, and then 437 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 3: Wade Phillips and Wade having him around always makes it 438 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: more impressive. So I got to interview him for about 439 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: an hour in front of hundreds of coaches, and it's 440 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: always an honor. 441 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: I was at that convention, Johnny because the volleyball coaches 442 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: were there and I was doing a situation like a 443 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: kind of a dogged pony on love Volleyball Houston with 444 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: Lisa Walker or CBO and I was blown away how 445 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: many coaches that were in the building at the GRB. 446 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: It was wild how many people Taxans. 447 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: Texans also sponsored flag football. So the Texans are heavily involved, 448 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: and they have been. They were heavily involved. When is 449 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 3: when San Antonio and I like that they are sponsoring 450 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: the hid Cowboys sponsoring the d isd on flag football, 451 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: which everybody, including the NFL, are hoping it gets to 452 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: be big. And one of the things that was brought 453 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: up by these coaches that I asked about it was, okay, 454 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: if you have it in high schools flag football, do 455 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: you have it during football season or do you have 456 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: it in the spring when flag football might take away 457 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: girls from other sports spring sports. So that's something they 458 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 3: would have to figure out. And they're all worried about, 459 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 3: you know, where where the money comes from, you know, 460 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 3: into cowboy and the Texans eventually are not sponsoring them. 461 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 3: Where does the money come from, who pays for all 462 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: the equipment? And when do they play? Because you know football, 463 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: I'm Gatinson. Football coaches in high school rule the roost, 464 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 3: and I don't know if they want flag football, but 465 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: it's here. I guess that's going to be here to 466 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 3: stay is seven on seven. We had Dick Olan Nick 467 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: came bought seven on seven from Iowa down here coaching 468 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 3: in Baytown. He talked about seven on seven and people 469 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: are real fired up about flag football and the Texans 470 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: led by Hannah McNair at the front of the line. 471 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this. One of the models 472 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: has the flag teams playing on the same fields as 473 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: the football teams. Maybe an hour and a half to 474 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: two hours prior to each football game, because you'll play 475 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: If Dulles plays High Tower, they'll play the flag football 476 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: teams ninety to two hours before. That's one of the models. 477 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if that happens, we'll see. You're right 478 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: about the spring. I mean, I coach Clements this past year, 479 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: co coached it, and there are a lot of challenges, 480 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: but it's going to happen at some point. 481 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: In general. 482 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: One more for you because you did the documentary the 483 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: PVIL Story. You've been at the forefront of a lot 484 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: of different Texas storytelling about high school football or maybe 485 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: football in the state of Texas in general, and you know, 486 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: worked with Dave Campbell and all of it. What is 487 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: the quintessential either documentary, movie, or book? Friday Night Lights. 488 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: It's one of the first books I read when I 489 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: got this job here in two thousand and two. What 490 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: do you point to somebody asks, Hey, I want to 491 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: sample Texas football. 492 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: However you want to define it. 493 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: What's one of the best ways, whether it be through movie, biopick, documentary, 494 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: even if it's a fictional pick, but documentary or book. 495 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: What do you got for me? 496 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 3: First? Of all, you have to talk about white and 497 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: black because they were divided for decades. So when I 498 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: think about white high school football, I think about Friday Lights, 499 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: Bud Messenger's great book about Odess. So let's talk so 500 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: much about high school football in Texas, Texas, and then 501 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 3: when you talk about black football. The preview enter Scholastical League, 502 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: which is what our documentary is at. It's Thursday Night 503 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: likes by Michael Hurt, who has a big part in 504 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: our documentary, and when we show it, Michael comes with us, 505 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 3: signs copies of his books. And at the end of 506 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 3: all our screenings, I do a Q and A where 507 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 3: I interview people associated with the documentary those two and 508 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: people know more about the University Interscholastical League than they 509 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: do the PBIL, which was nineteen twenty to nineteen seventy. 510 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: And everywhere we go. We're headed to the Bush Library 511 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 3: and College station. Next month, We've got museums all over 512 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: the state asking us to come, high schools, churches, everybody 513 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: tells us that comes. Well, I didn't know that, and 514 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: I especially like it when we see young kids, like 515 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: high school kids. We're going to TSU. Chris Dishman is 516 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: having has come to TSU. He's inviting all their athletes, 517 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: all their coaches, some professors to come see the PBIL story. 518 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: Separate but equal because they're learning a lot about it. 519 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: And I think Michael's book and our documentary tells a 520 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: part of Texas history that extends beyond high school football, 521 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: but that is the liveblood of sports in Texas. 522 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: Outstanding, General, thanks so much for the time as always 523 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: right question. 524 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: Yes, really much, Mark, I appreciate. 525 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: It all right, thank you, John, John McLean joining us 526 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: on Texans Radio and coming up. Paper graded too high? 527 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: Are too low for the following teams and our players. 528 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: It's next here on Texans Radio. Here we are on 529 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: the Honday Texans Radio studio. So great to have your 530 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: board here on the Thursday night program, Mark vandermir John 531 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: Harris with you, and training camp opens Wednesday morning. Will 532 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 2: be out there live eight to ten am with Nick Cassario, 533 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: among other things happening that day. Players every day in 534 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: the loop will be out there after US, Sean and 535 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: Seth before us. And can't wait for all that to 536 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: get started. So Johnny, the off season it's dragging along here. 537 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: Please can we get to some football? But paper graded 538 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: too high or too low the consensus, media and fan 539 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: understanding of these entities. You tell me if the paper 540 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: is graded too high or too low. Andre Ware talks 541 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: about people's paper being graded too high or too low, 542 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: So I thought i'd okhurt it that way, okay, instead 543 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: of overrated under perfect? 544 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha? 545 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: Let me first go here the Texans paper graded too 546 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: high or too low? 547 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: What do you think? I think it's about right. 548 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: I actually don't think it's too higher too low, because 549 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: I can see situations where this team, like last year, 550 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 4: could get on a run, even if even in difficult 551 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: scheduled situations, I could see them getting on a run. 552 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: It's a very talented roster we all know. 553 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 4: Uh. I can't remember who I was listening to yesterday, 554 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: may have been sewn at SETH and they were talking 555 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: about seven NFL dot com riders, including our buddy Lanzerline, 556 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 4: who all picked the Texans over nine and a half, 557 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 4: and they had three people pick ten and seven. Lance 558 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: was one of two that picked eleven and six. Bucky Brooks, 559 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: sideline reporter for the Jaguars, picked twelve and five, and 560 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 4: then somebody had him at thirteen and four. So it's 561 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 4: kind of about where a lot of people have put it, 562 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: so I think they're probably about right. I've seen a 563 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 4: couple here there. Well, they're the seventeenth rated team, they're 564 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 4: the eighteenth rated power rankings, but most of the power 565 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 4: rankings having between you know, seven and twelve ish. That's 566 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: probably about right for right now. Until this team proves 567 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: it can run the ball. The offensive line has been 568 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 4: a true improvement, and CJ as well on his way 569 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 4: to making strides in twenty twenty six, then we could say, okay, yeah. 570 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: That's a top five team in the league. 571 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 2: I think that it's a good point you make, and 572 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to add another entity. 573 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: CJ. 574 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: Stroud paper graded too high, too low coming into the season. 575 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: I think this is a pretty easy one because it's 576 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: easy to say it's too low. He's getting hammered on 577 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: on ESPN the other day they had quarterbacks under twenty 578 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: six or twenty six in under who could win the 579 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: Super Bowl? Is the green list? Mike Greenberg And there 580 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: were five of them and CJ wasn't one of them, 581 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: And I thought, are you guys crazy not to put 582 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: them on this list? They had Daniels and Trevor Lawrence, 583 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: and the usual suspects here, obviously Caleb Williams. But how 584 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: do you not have CJ on that list? He could now, 585 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: I know, we know what happened to the playoffs, but 586 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: they act like CJ completely flamed out and threw twenty 587 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: six interceptions last year. He did not. He had a 588 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: solid year. We won twelve games here in Houston. Why 589 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: is this a problem? Look, I know the postseason, but 590 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: they assume that's going to carry over into this regular season. 591 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 592 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: When we get back to the postseason, we'll see what happened. 593 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 4: I mean, isn't that what happens? Hashtag sarcasm font isn't 594 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 4: that what happens the last you saw of a player? 595 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 4: And I go back to this and look, it was 596 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 4: twenty some odd years ago, But go back and look 597 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: at the numbers of Peyton Manning the first time he 598 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: played in Foxboro in a playoff game. Go look at 599 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 4: his numbers, Go see what he did. And he struggled 600 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: in Foxborough for a few years before he got it right. 601 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 4: Before he got it right in the playoffs, he struggled 602 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 4: even in the game that they won the AFC Championship 603 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 4: in two thousand and six Peyton Manning struggled. Look, I've 604 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: said this a number of times as it bertains to 605 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 4: quarterbacks are on this league. I think the defenses in 606 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 4: this league have gotten so much better than what they 607 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: used to be eight to ten years ago. So much 608 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 4: better you think about just go through the AFC. I 609 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 4: think the Patriots defense is solid, really solid, really good. 610 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 4: Not at Texas level, but really good. We saw the 611 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: playoff game. He got the Texans, you got the Broncos. 612 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: The Chargers defense is very sound, fundamentally, very very good. 613 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: That's just off. 614 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: Top of my head. When they get everybody healthy. Ravens, yeah, yeah, absolutely, 615 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: when the Ravens are fully healthy, the Steelers have got parts. 616 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: Look, i just think that that defenses now make things 617 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: so much more difficult on quarterbacks. And I'm not going 618 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: to sit here and tell you that, you know, a 619 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 4: quarterback throwing four interceptions in the first half. 620 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: Ah, nothing to see here. 621 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: Look, and i know people get all over CJ about 622 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 4: the Steelers game, and I'm like, yeah, there were a 623 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 4: couple of times he probably should have eaten it, But 624 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 4: I still think he played pretty well in that game 625 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: and making throws at times. But you know how it 626 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 4: is national people in particular. They saw that last performance, 627 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 4: they saw that performance against the Patriots, and they're like, so, yeah, 628 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 4: I think that people are done at you know what, 629 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 4: That's fine. CJ had proven people wrong throughout his whole 630 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 4: career and so now it's time to prove himself right. 631 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 4: And by doing that, this team goes too different levels. 632 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think people are definitely would you say 633 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 4: buying low? Yeah, buying low? 634 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: All right? 635 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: Buying low? Well, paper graded too high? 636 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly? 637 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: Okay, same question, paper graded too high or paper graded 638 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: too low? Coming into the season, I'll go here the 639 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. They're here week four, too high, too high, 640 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: called super Bowl contenders. 641 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 642 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 3: Is this? 643 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 4: That's why I asked the question of the general because 644 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 4: I just I see where they're going. 645 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean, the pieces they added. 646 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 4: I think they did a nice job with the pieces 647 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 4: they added, bringing in Rashan Garry, good solid pass rush, 648 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 4: and I know he's not Michael Parsons, nobody is. 649 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: Uh. They brought in Obonia. 650 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 4: Who is a solid player, but they lost to Diggi Zula. 651 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 4: That was a big one for them. I mean Kenny 652 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 4: Clark and credit Quentin Williams should be to the best. 653 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 4: That should be the best interior duo in the league. 654 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 4: I mean, that's gonna be a good one. The key 655 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: is Caleb Bownce coming in to help that secondary. That 656 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 4: secondary was just got awful last year. But I just 657 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 4: don't know that all of that is enough. I mean, 658 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 4: that's a lot of new starters, are relying on some 659 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 4: rookies like the Malchi Lawrence picked go along with Caleb downs. 660 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: But look, the offense is gonna be good. 661 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 4: We know that, But when it comes to nut cutting time, 662 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 4: do we really know what that offense is gonna do? 663 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: Are do we really know that they're gonna come through 664 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: in the clutch? 665 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 4: We put up a lot of points because they get 666 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 4: in shootouts with teams because the defense stung. I think 667 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: the defense will be better. I'm not sitting here thinking 668 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 4: that's a super Bowl caliber team. 669 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: Now and the division. Who knows, We'll get to the 670 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: Giants later. How about this paper graded too high or 671 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: too low? The Cincinnati Bengals here, they come into the 672 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 2: season being labeled as contenders by many. They've got Joe Burrow. 673 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: How many games did he play last year? Half the season? 674 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: The season? I mean, that's it. 675 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't really have a half because it's 676 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: seventeen games. I think it was eight games that Burrow played. 677 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so roughly that, Jeff, we assume fifteen healthy games 678 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 4: out of Burrow? 679 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: Is that what we assume here? I'm not sure about that, 680 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: but anyway, go on, Bengals too high or too low? 681 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 4: I think it's a tad too high. Okay, if Joe 682 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 4: Burrows healthy. Now, Joe Flacco I think could do some 683 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 4: things with this team, but Joe Burrow takes it to 684 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 4: a different level obviously, and they've made a significant investment 685 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 4: in the line of scrimmage, especially defensively, going out and 686 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 4: get Jonathan Allen and Boy and Mafey. Now a lot 687 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 4: of people are high and Boy and Mafay and I 688 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 4: wass too coming on of the draft. Very good athlete 689 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 4: turning himself into a really good pass rusher. I think 690 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 4: that's gonna definitely help him. I think Jonathan Allen's on 691 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 4: his last legs. I think that's why he was available 692 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 4: as a cap casually come out of Minnesota, and then 693 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 4: they signed Dexter Lawrence, and Dexter Lawrence can change everything. Yeah, 694 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 4: but if Mafey doesn't do anything really good off the edge. 695 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 4: Then you relyn on two Aggie's and cash is how 696 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 4: Rookie and Shamar Stewart a secondary guy to come in 697 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 4: and give them pass rush, and that's gonna be the 698 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 4: key They've got to produce pass rush. But I don't 699 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 4: trust the secondary at all. I don't trust the secondary 700 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 4: at all. I still think you're gonna be able to 701 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 4: get the ball off and have success against them, which 702 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 4: puts Joe Burrow, if healthy, in a position to win 703 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 4: a bunch of shootouts. 704 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: Again. 705 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 4: Defense will be better better, Dexha Lawrence will help make 706 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 4: it better. 707 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: I still don't trust that secondary. Okay, let's go here. 708 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens paper graded too high or too low? 709 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 1: Too low? 710 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: I agree with this one. 711 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: Too low. 712 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 4: I For some reason, each year, I just feel like 713 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 4: the Ravens are that team that man. I know they 714 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 4: they added Jesse Minter as head coach, but they also 715 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 4: went out and got our buddy Anthony Weaver to be 716 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator. And I think he's got pieces. This is 717 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 4: really the first year that we've had pieces, you know, 718 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 4: because he was here in twenty twenty. Is a defensive coordinator. Yeah, pieces, 719 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 4: No way in Miami. In Miami, you know, everybody get 720 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 4: hurt all the time. Now he's got Roquan and look, 721 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 4: gro Kwan's up in years a little bit. But still 722 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 4: he's got ro qwand he's got Kyle Hamilton. They went 723 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 4: out and they got Trey Hendrickson. They've got some pieces 724 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 4: on that defense. I mean, Malchi Starks was good as 725 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 4: a rookie. W'll being better his second year. Marlon Humphrey 726 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 4: is back and he's a key as long as he's healthy. 727 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 4: So I think that's I think it's too lo Now 728 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 4: Lamar gonna be a new offense. 729 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: Things are gonna be new. 730 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 4: Sometimes Lamar is a little resistant to do things the 731 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 4: way the coaches want him to do it, but he's 732 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 4: Lamar and sometimes the off script, off balance sheet stuff 733 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 4: that he does is magical. 734 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: But this is now year what nine? 735 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it's year nine for Lamar. 736 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 1: The music starts slowing down at some point. 737 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: Oh he's hungry, right, this is it? 738 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 3: Right? 739 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 2: You got to make your move. That's otherwise you start 740 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: becoming you know, John Elway trying to do it that 741 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 2: way and you need way too much help. 742 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 4: Now that said, I believe in Lamar have been, have 743 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: been for a long time. I just think there are 744 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 4: very few players now that I still look at it 745 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 4: with this defense and go, God, dang it. They scare me, 746 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 4: even Josh Josh. Josh scares me because we know what 747 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 4: he can be scary. He just hasn't done it against 748 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 4: the Texans in this building. Lamar has. Lamar's done it here, there, 749 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 4: everywhere against this team. So every time he's lined up 750 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 4: under center, I just, oh God, what's next. 751 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm way more frightened of Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson 752 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: than I am of Joe Burrow for this defense, because Burrow, 753 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 2: you feel like, look, Chase amazing, t Higgins amazing, but 754 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: you feel like our cover guys, we can get some pressure. 755 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 2: You know, Burrow is a little more conventional, a lot 756 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 2: more than those guys. Those guys unconventional can blow your mind. 757 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: And Lauren, Derek Henry and we talked about it earlier 758 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 2: this week. Josh Allen despite the fact that, oh yeah, 759 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 2: you owned Josh Allen, but you know he almost beat 760 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: you twice. 761 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 4: In the last two years, so exactly it didn't even 762 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 4: play well and almost beat you, Yeah, exactly. 763 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 2: The numbers are terrible, scary I mean scary. It's just 764 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 2: bizarre some of the performances here that have been so good, 765 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: and yet you lose the game against Detroit two years 766 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: ago and you barely win it, but you win it 767 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: against the Bills, and hey, I'll take a barely win 768 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 2: on week one. 769 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: I don't care. I'll take a three to two two 770 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: oh baseball score. I'll take it. 771 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 2: I'll take Kamari Lassiter safety and then a shutout. 772 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: Is the last guy? 773 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 4: Is he the last guy that generated safety for US? 774 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 4: Kamorrow last against the Ravens? 775 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: A good question, I think it is. That's a good question. 776 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: I think I should have that off the top of 777 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: my head. 778 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 4: We're gonna look that up because Will's and against Seattle 779 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 4: was a force fumble touchdown that was not a safety, 780 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 4: so it might be. 781 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 2: All right coming up. John Harbaugh spoke to his team. 782 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 2: It went viral for all the wrong reasons. It's next 783 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 2: on Texans All Access, all right, wrapping up the show 784 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: here in the final segment, we try to pick a 785 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: quickie topic and Johnny more cringe worthy. John Harbaugh's speech 786 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 2: to the New York Giants who will be here at 787 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 2: Reliance Stadium after the Texans take on the jag So 788 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 2: that's a Week six game on your home schedule. Than 789 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 2: g men, they were here in the very first season 790 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 2: of Texans history, so it's a twenty fifth season kind 791 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 2: of reunion of sorts. The Cowboys here, the Giants here, 792 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: Here they come again. Anyway, the speed it went something like. 793 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: This, welcome man, good to see her by here. Excited, yes, sir, nervous, No, nervous, 794 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: little nerves man, nervous, excited, nervous, you know, standing up 795 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: here in front of the New York Giants, the New 796 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: York Giants. This is the New York Giants sitting in 797 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: this room. The New York Giants. Listen, uh, the stand 798 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: in front of this room right now. 799 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 3: I know his coaches, doctor feel the same way hard coaches. 800 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 2: I watched this and I like John harborugh as a coach. 801 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 2: I think John Harbor has done a hell of a 802 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 2: job as a coach. I mean, he's won a Super Bowl, 803 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 2: He's had a lot of success. I know he hasn't 804 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: gotten as far as he's one or two lately. He's 805 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 2: one of these guys and last year is shown the door. 806 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 2: But my goodness, I think that he had something in 807 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 2: mind and he was going to go there no matter what. 808 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: And it just fell really flat. 809 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: That room looked dead when he was saying this to 810 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: these kids, who are the New York Giants. You mean 811 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: the team that Eli couldn't win enough with. He won 812 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 2: a couple of Super Bowls, but everything else just seemed 813 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 2: to go wrong during the Eli era. 814 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: And these guys are so young. 815 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably remember those Super Bowls as kids, but 816 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: they're not thinking about the New York Giants and Bill 817 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 2: Parcells and Lawrence Taylor And if you want to go 818 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 2: really old time guys, I'm not going to go there. 819 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about y a tittle, am I. 820 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: I'm not anyway. 821 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: Photo of all time Grays photo in NFL history. 822 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 4: It was I've thought about that, like standing up in 823 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 4: front of your team and kind of giving him that 824 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 4: Not so much raw Ross Beach, but I've kind of 825 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 4: thought about it. I mean, as I was listening to him, like, Okay, 826 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 4: well what I've said? What would I have said to 827 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 4: the New York Football Giants, And it felt like he 828 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 4: was trying to evoke the emotion from them that hey, 829 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 4: and the respect for the New York Giants, like this 830 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 4: is a storied organization. 831 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: I just felt like he could have gone about it 832 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: a little bit more. 833 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 4: He could have made it a twenty twenty six speech 834 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 4: as opposed to a nineteen ninety one speech. 835 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: Good point, and I think. 836 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 4: He could have done that. So I think you could 837 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 4: have laid the groundwork a little bit better. But John 838 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 4: Harbond knows how to coach, He knows how to motivate, 839 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 4: he knows how to get the most out of guys. 840 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: So I think that will happen. 841 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 4: And look what coach did we make the most fun 842 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 4: of because of a press conference? 843 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: Duve All? 844 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: And what did Liam Cohene turn into one of the 845 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 2: division last year? 846 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: Kill? 847 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 2: What about Nick sirianni opening press conference introductory one? Was awful? 848 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: Right? 849 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 4: And so he wins a Super Bowl? That's right, John 850 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 4: Harball be just fine. It just missed the mark a 851 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 4: little bit with some young guys. 852 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel in front of a room. We saw that 853 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 2: a lot during that in season Hard Knocks a couple 854 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: of years ago, and poor guy was losing player after player, 855 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 2: game after game and having to get up there for 856 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 2: those speeches. It's got to be tough to address the 857 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 2: entire room. Look everybody's compensated. They're gonna play right, they're 858 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 2: getting paid, and they're gonna pay attention, enough attention, but 859 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 2: it's got to be tough to keep their attention. The 860 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 2: introductory one, though, Johnny, should be a layup ro Let's 861 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 2: go we are gonna kick some butt this year. 862 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: Let's go yeah. 863 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I think there are different ways that you 864 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 4: can you can handle it, but I feel like today 865 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 4: the shorter the better I know that I used to. 866 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 4: It's not surprising I got into radio because I could 867 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 4: go a little long, because as I would get into it, 868 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 4: as I would get into it, I would think about 869 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 4: something else, and then I would get into something else. 870 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: But I would at least. 871 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 4: Look at my I would look at my kids and go, okay, 872 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 4: I gotta cut this off. Just what's my what's my 873 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,959 Speaker 4: exit point here? Harbough didn't seem like he found wrap. 874 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 4: I think the introductory should just be you walk in 875 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 4: with one of the Lombardies from the trophy case and 876 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 4: you put it on the table and you just put 877 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 4: it there and you go, gentlemen, that is what we're 878 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 4: playing for. You give everything you've got to play for 879 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 4: that the biggest piece of jewelry that you're ever gonna 880 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 4: own comes with that. It is right here, and you 881 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 4: put the Super Bowl ring. How about gentlemen, you want that, 882 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 4: Let's go and do our work. 883 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: Goodbye. 884 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 2: How about the Bill O'Brien of Hard Knocks talking to 885 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 2: his coaches. Turn on your TV. Nobody is talking about 886 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. A lot of that was really good. Yeah, 887 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: but then he said these quarterbacks can play. Yeah, they 888 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 2: miss the mark on that one. The Lawyer's become a 889 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 2: pretty good host on Serious XMN. Lawyer's good. I like 890 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 2: by always like Brian Honesty Rady on Serious XM. You 891 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: brought it up yesterday that it'd be cool. Okay tomorrow 892 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 2: full show, including some ridiculousness related to the off season 893 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 2: around the league. 894 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 1: We'll get to it all. 895 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: Have a great night everyone, Area forty five is coming up. 896 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 2: Go Texans.