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Speaker 1: It's Chicago, It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and

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Speaker 1: however you may be listening, Thanks for making us part

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Speaker 1: of your day. J Macbears Niners, best NFL game of

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Speaker 1: the year, A plus plus plus. That was as good

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Speaker 1: as professional football gets this late in the season. You're

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Speaker 1: missing some starters if you're San Francisco, and well let's

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Speaker 1: just start with that. That's as good as total football gets.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing is this is why you hire

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches. Between Ben Jonson and Kyle Shanahan, nine hundred

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Speaker 1: yards of offense, both were great on third down, great

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Speaker 1: in the red zone, efficient, smart play calling, young quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: being the beneficiary. Brought in Caleb of really bright guys. Now, yes,

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Speaker 1: I always thought brought pretty ad talent, but I thought

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Speaker 1: he was very dependent on Shanahan and Christian McCaffrey. But

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Speaker 1: he didn't have Kittle last night. He didn't have left

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Speaker 1: tackle Trent Williams. He hadn't have Brandon. I you call

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Speaker 1: year and last night he was attack, attack, attack, with mobility,

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Speaker 1: with accuracy. He threw a pick six. I've told you

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Speaker 1: for years Brady threw pick sixes and super Bowls he's won. Yes,

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Speaker 1: quarterback play. Yeah, you're gonna have a pick six. I

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Speaker 1: defend Darnold. I defended Andrew Luck, Peyton, Manny and Elway

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Speaker 1: two picks. This one I like now now did mac

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Speaker 1: Jones and Garoppolo also look great with Shanahan. Yeah, Matt

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Speaker 1: Francisco has been very reliant regardless of the quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the last five six years with George Kittle. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: around last night. Trent Williams also incredibly important, great left

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Speaker 1: really talented passenger, which has always been my take on Perty.

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Speaker 1: He's talented. You mean, you can watch him play two quarters. Healented,

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Speaker 1: but he's mostly been a driver, you know, passenger. Last

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Speaker 1: he was fantastic. Now could he stay healthy he gets

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Speaker 1: He's not going to have all night to throw like

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Speaker 1: backup tight end, it just didn't matter if you got open.

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Speaker 1: Brock Purty found you. And this year, this year party

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Speaker 1: banged up. Some of it is seven to one with

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Speaker 1: last six weeks. This is the healthiest best Brock party

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Speaker 1: we've ever seen. He's not just stabilizing, he's elevating. He's

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Speaker 1: of Fame tied end. It's always been my question. I mean,

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Speaker 1: mac Jones came in this year as a backup, looked spectacular.

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Speaker 1: brock Perty had the second most time to throw in

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Speaker 1: one with Ben Johnson. You're contending going into that game

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Speaker 1: We have been saying on this show, Bill J. McK

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Speaker 1: Brock Purty. And here was Caleb on a tough road loss.

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Speaker 3: We've proven who we are, will fight, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think we're a team to be recking with. And

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Speaker 3: so I'm I'm excited for, you know, this next game.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to go back and watch this film and

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Speaker 3: figure out how we can better, how we can put

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you one of the things that's great about Caleb.

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Speaker 1: I've compared him a little to Josh Allen, a shorter

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, where he's not going to be perfect. I

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Speaker 1: don't worry too much about the fifty nine percent accuracy thing.

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Speaker 1: Last night, I thought he threw a he threw really

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Speaker 1: good footballs. I mean I thought hit on a deep

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Speaker 1: I think I think Caleb's fine. In fact, he's how

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Speaker 1: about the free play touchdown to Loveland, Who's just a

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Speaker 1: clearly coachable. I think he loves his coach, and I

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Speaker 1: think Ben Johnson. They didn't play great offense early. They

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Speaker 1: Bears defense got that pick six early, But overall, I

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Speaker 4: I mean, that was, yeah, we were head to head

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Speaker 4: on that Colin. By the way, do you want to

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Speaker 4: guess the line? Seahawks travel to San fran on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: They would guess Niners minus one. Wrong.

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Speaker 4: Seattle is favored in San Francisco by one. Now I

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Speaker 5: Gonna play it well.

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Speaker 1: To know, I think you would admit this, and you

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Speaker 1: love Purty. When Brock is comfortable, forget it. He is

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Speaker 1: he is, and last night he is moving around. That's

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Speaker 1: why I thought Dennis Allen should have been much more aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Comfortable Brock perty's a handful when you speed the game up.

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Speaker 1: And this was the knock on Brock. It's been a

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Speaker 1: knocking his career, in the knock in college. He can

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Speaker 1: get a little reckless if you speed him up. Because

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Speaker 1: he you watched last night, he is not afraid to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field. Garoppolo with Kyle kind

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Speaker 1: of kept it safe, didn't throw it the sideline. Brock's aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not Sam Darnold aggressive, but Brock is aggressive. So

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Speaker 1: And also Christian McCaffrey had another huge touch night. Now.

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Speaker 4: Interestingly, though, Colin regarding Seattle, they played in the season opener.

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Speaker 4: Remember that game, Darnold had to turn over around it

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Speaker 4: the end of the game. Perdy did struggle at times,

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Speaker 4: but the Niners defense is much worse than it was

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Speaker 1: Okay, So look at what the wise guys have done.

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Speaker 5: Ye, So would you back Sam Darnold in that spot?

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Speaker 5: Huge late season game, by the.

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Speaker 4: Way, Donald was it was pretty atrocious against Carolina. Hey,

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Speaker 4: That's a good game. This game is everything Seattle on Sanfra.

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Speaker 1: Here's why I defend Buffalo going for two. They've got

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Speaker 1: I think it's weird. Why did they ignore AJ Brown

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was playing very effectively. He was very accurate,

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Speaker 7: We weren't in a mode of saying, hey, thirteen nothing

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Speaker 1: The stand up guy. Totally appreciate it. But again I

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Speaker 1: the last six minutes of the game, Buffalo had momentum.

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Speaker 1: Do you trust your play design? I was a good call,

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Speaker 1: four worst halves, speaks organizationally to how will they draft

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Speaker 7: No, no, this is the herd Line News.

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Speaker 5: All right, Colin, let's go to Saturday Night.

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Speaker 4: I know the main event was Derrick Henry carving up

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Speaker 4: could talk about Malik Willis. Wow, I mean, listen, I

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Speaker 4: know everybody's going crazy. He was phenomenal in this game

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Speaker 8: I want to pump the brakes on all that stuff.

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Speaker 8: I think Jordan Love was playing some pretty high level football,

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Speaker 1: So I just want to squash all that. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Malik willis not much to look at in Tennessee, dysfunctional,

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Speaker 1: my take is Malik Willison Green Bay is excellent. I

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Speaker 1: would really worry sending this young guy who clearly has talent,

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Speaker 1: can't deny this is why he got drafted. He is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike Rabels Titans, right, Okay, I know we love

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Speaker 5: Colin, he didn't.

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Speaker 4: He basically looked at Malik Willis for two years and

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Speaker 4: was like, he's not for us, no, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Now he moved off with him quickly.

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Speaker 1: Remember he went to Liberty, Yes, small college football, and

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Speaker 1: Mike Drabel was in win now mode. Mike Rabel was

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Speaker 1: different environment. So young people, especially your environment, your landing

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Speaker 4: Now you mentioned the Jets, and I'll be real, a

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Speaker 5: If we don't get Dante Moore, let's go for Maliplis.

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Speaker 4: Let's just settle down. Lafleur is a great offensive mind. Okay,

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Speaker 5: Coordinator next year. This idea that Willis is gonna come in.

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Speaker 4: make sense for a team where you've got an offensive

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Speaker 5: You know, there aren't many of those. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: With you, Kevin Stefanski, if it sounds like he's going

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Speaker 4: to be the guy still in Cleveland. I know we've

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Speaker 4: seen some flashes from Shadur, but I would take Malik

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Speaker 5: He could probably he might get you to the.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I think the Pittsburgh Steelers absolutely has a

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Speaker 4: All right, let's move on to the other game on Saturday,

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Speaker 9: Every time we see our team take the field, we

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Speaker 9: But at no point, I mean never, never does his

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Speaker 1: We'll use thanks today to be better than Tom.

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Speaker 5: Colin.

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Speaker 4: I think it's obvious the Chargers need to rest everyone

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be roll with you if they face the.

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Speaker 5: Herbert or Drake may Well?

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Speaker 1: I mean justin Herbert, Yeah, at this point is but

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Speaker 4: Now, it's nothing great, and their defense is not. People

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Speaker 1: It's even on the road. Like a lot of times,

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Speaker 4: So the Patriots fans were in hibernation for a year

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Speaker 4: now they're going crazy for Drake may Colin. I'm being

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Speaker 4: real with you. Chargers at Patriots opening ground. Any thoughts

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Speaker 4: on that game.

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Speaker 1: I think New England's probably favored by two to two

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Speaker 1: and a half and I think the Chargers would probably

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Speaker 1: be a really good bet if Herbert plushed the point.

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Speaker 1: But I think New England would be favored.

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Speaker 4: I definitely, yeah, I would agree with that. I'm going

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Speaker 4: to be on the Chargers almost regardless. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: think this Chargers team is going to be surprised in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. I really like him as long as the

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Speaker 4: offensive line's healthy. All right, final story, let's.

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Speaker 5: Go to Philip Rivers and the Colts. Tough one for

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Speaker 5: Indie to stomach.

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Speaker 4: They lose to Jacksonville and are officially eliminated from the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Philip Rivers was, I know, people are going crazy. I

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Speaker 4: got a little tired of this story.

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Speaker 5: It was fun.

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Speaker 4: He was fine one hundred and forty seven yards in

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Speaker 4: a touchdown.

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Speaker 5: You can't throw the ball.

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Speaker 1: Down the field cut right, that's the problem. I mean.

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Speaker 5: And this interception right here.

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Speaker 4: You see on the screens.

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Speaker 5: Read that like a book that was on the drive.

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Speaker 5: That could have won the game for them.

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Speaker 4: Here's Rivers reflecting on his three game cameo coming off

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Speaker 4: the sofa.

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Speaker 10: If this was the last one, shoot again. I told

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Speaker 10: you guys, I won't have any regrets about coming back,

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Speaker 10: and I don't. It's it's other than us not winning, right,

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Speaker 10: us not winning. It's been an absolute blast for three weeks.

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Speaker 10: I wouldn't if I go back and say, all right, now,

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Speaker 10: you know everything's gonna happen, what are you going to do?

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Speaker 1: I do it all again. It's been absolutely.

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Speaker 11: Awesome and uh so, yeah, I mean, if it's the

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Speaker 11: last one, is the last one. I thought the last

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Speaker 11: one was walking off filling the Buffalo were walking up

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Speaker 11: that tunnel, and I was fine with that. And that one,

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Speaker 11: that one I had tears and those few days after,

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Speaker 11: you know, and I was at peace with that being

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Speaker 11: the last one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I got to tell you something. We're going to

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Speaker 1: have to get used to this. Jackson Bille's pretty good. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I got Philip Rivers you well, you know, I'll get

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Speaker 1: to the Colts and Colin right, ok, in thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: But I jackson Mill's a real team. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: was just not that's a divisional game. We said all

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Speaker 1: the time, J Mack. Divisional games are different. We just

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Speaker 1: watched Cleveland beat the Steelers. Divisional games are different late

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Speaker 1: in the year. That would have been an easy place

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Speaker 1: for Jacksonville to go and stub their toe, and they

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Speaker 1: just made the big plays on both sides in that

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Speaker 1: game in the second half. So kudos to the jag

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Speaker 1: That's a real team.

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Speaker 5: TREVORL. Lawrence is pretty damn good. I like watching him run.

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Speaker 4: Quick note on the Colts Colin, so obviously they're gonna

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Speaker 4: start Riley Leonard next week figure out what they got.

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Speaker 4: This trade for Sauce Gardner kind of backfired badly. I

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Speaker 4: know that Daniel Jones got hurt.

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Speaker 5: Colin. I'm very curious what.

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Speaker 4: Happens this offseason in Indie, dude, just the coach and

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Speaker 4: coach and GM.

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Speaker 5: Do they survive because.

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Speaker 4: Again, you were eight and two and you crater and

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Speaker 4: missed the playoffs and now you're out a first round pick.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you do with Daniel Jones in

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Speaker 4: the offseason. Can you re sign him? Could you do

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Speaker 4: you tag him if he's going to miss a month.

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Speaker 4: We've seen quarterbacks coming off the achilles. It takes some time.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, this is a tough one in

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Speaker 4: India's fascinating scorrey because they've tried, but they failed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have answers. I mean, that's what the

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Speaker 1: off season's about. Jmck with the news, Well that's the news,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for stopping by the herd Line news I

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Speaker 1: mean yesterday. So this is what the NFL loves. This

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Speaker 1: is why they put the divisional games at the end

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Speaker 1: of the schedules. Ravens go to Pittsburgh, loser stays home,

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Speaker 1: winner wins the Division. I like Baltimore. If DK Metcalf

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Speaker 1: did not play this week and he's not gonna play

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Speaker 1: next week, he punched a fan for their record. That

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Speaker 1: kind of sort of uneven personality is why John Snyder,

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Speaker 1: the best GM in the league, arguably let him go.

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Speaker 1: So now they have to hope that mvs. Because you

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Speaker 1: watched them this weekend, it's Friarmouth run game is twenty

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Speaker 1: six in the NFL, so they are in a tough spot.

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Speaker 1: They were atrocious on third down, they were bad on

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Speaker 1: fourth down. And I defended Aaron Rodgers all year. I said,

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Speaker 1: this whole line inconsistent Mike Tomlin's run game. Seven years?

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Speaker 1: Where are they? So they haven't on a playoff game

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Speaker 1: in eight years? And last week everybody loved Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like it's groundhog Day. It's the same

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Speaker 1: thing over and over where Pittsburgh has a winning record,

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Speaker 1: but they can't really figure out a run game. The

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Speaker 1: offense gets into quicksand you bring in a Trubisky, you

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Speaker 1: bringing a Russell Wilson, you bring in Aaron Rodgers, three

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks who've all made the playoffs, all different skill sets.

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Speaker 1: You bring in different offensive coordinators and it's the same stuff.

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Speaker 1: So now you don't have that talented tight end. Washington

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Speaker 1: broke his arm. DK Metcalf not available. You're relying on MVS,

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Speaker 1: who is Aaron Rodgers' friend. But there's limitations there. Your

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Speaker 1: run games not dependable. You kind of forgot about your

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Speaker 1: run game. It's again, I can think Mike Tomlin could

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Speaker 1: be a head coach tomorrow and succeed, and also think

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Speaker 1: this Pittsburgh thing is run its course as far as

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Speaker 1: Shador goes, eh, I got six starts, some things I like,

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Speaker 1: throws really bad picks. It's the biggest win for the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns that I can remember, certainly the biggest of

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Speaker 1: the year. And here's Miles Garrett, the all timer. After

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Speaker 1: the w To.

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Speaker 12: An extent, I feel like they're they were more worried

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Speaker 12: about keeping me away from Aaron than no getting the win,

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Speaker 12: and I think that's what came back to bottom. So no,

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Speaker 12: they don't have to, you know, fight it out with

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Speaker 12: Baltimore next week. But I'm just proud of the guys

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Speaker 12: for fighting getting this win. That's the main thing, and

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Speaker 12: I'm always gonna keep it that.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice win for Cleveland, but the bigger story

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Speaker 1: is seven straight seasons the Pittsburgh Steelers have had a

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Speaker 1: bottom ten offense, and you guys can all blame Aaron.

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Speaker 1: And there are times he's been irritating. Who is he

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Speaker 1: supposed to throw to? Everybody's like, oh, he's picking on

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Speaker 1: Denzel Ward, He's got to pick on somebody he's throwing to.

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Speaker 1: Scottie Miller. Fryarmuth had a couple of big plays, But

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at all the teams that can

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Speaker 1: potentially make the playoffs, Pittsburgh with no DK Metcalf is

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Speaker 1: the most barren cupboard of weapons to deal with. And

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Speaker 1: again I'm not blaming Arthur Smith. What do they have.

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Speaker 1: They spend so much money on defense that they can't

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Speaker 1: spend money on offense. Even Aaron's taking a discount double

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Speaker 1: check deal. So this is why Seattle they liked DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: but they thought he was really emotional. Too many penalties

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Speaker 1: could sometimes, you know, handcuff the team a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And once he was out, I don't know who Aaron's

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Speaker 1: supposed to throw to. Everybody's like, oh, oh for three,

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Speaker 1: got to make a play there? To who who you

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Speaker 1: supposed to make a play to? Coming up next. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you don't need to see that much to know you

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Speaker 1: got the wrong quarterback or you hired the wrong coach.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what industry it is, you can see

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Speaker 1: great or awful very quickly. I always said this with

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Speaker 1: American idol, like I don't know anything about music. I

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Speaker 1: could spot Star or hack in ten seconds, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know music right like Steve Wilks in Arizona, Freddie

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Speaker 1: Kitchens in Cleveland, Nathaniel Hackett first game in Denver, couldn't

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Speaker 1: figure the clock out, David Cully in Houston. You know

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Speaker 1: when you whiff, you know when you miss. You also

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Speaker 1: know with Ben Johnson three or four games in, you're

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Speaker 1: like whoa? Or you know Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: You're like, WHOA? Remember Jim tom Sulla in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't get the press conference right. He was brutal.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn is a defensive coach. Opposing quarterbacks against the

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Speaker 1: Jets this year have thirty four touchdowns and no picks.

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Speaker 1: The Jets don't have an interception. What has been my

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Speaker 1: rule forever, I will defend you as a coach, you

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Speaker 1: got to get your side of the ball right. They

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Speaker 1: have one of the worst pass rushes in the league.

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Speaker 1: They have no interceptions. He cannot get his side of

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Speaker 1: the ball right. He's not a head coach. He's been

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Speaker 1: arguing at the pot. He can't even get the podium right.

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Speaker 1: So he's you know, he's either a great coordinator or

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Speaker 1: he's a world class positional coach. But New York is

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Speaker 1: a hard place to win. That game yesterday was thirty

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Speaker 1: five to three at half. Their leading receiver is still

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. What has he played seven games this year?

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Speaker 1: So and again, you can turn things around quickly. Gerard

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Speaker 1: Mayo last year felt a little over his skis the

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Speaker 1: higher varraval they go four and thirteen to what they

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Speaker 1: are this year. Now, now the Jets don't have a

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Speaker 1: Drake may in the building. But if you get the

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Speaker 1: head coach right and he brings a great offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: You can solve stuff quickly. But this idea that I

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Speaker 1: need years to see. Nat Hackett in Denver, David Cully

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Speaker 1: in Houston, Jim tom Sula in San Francisco. You don't

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Speaker 1: need years. You watch all those music shows. You can

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Speaker 1: tell in fifteen seconds you hear a couple lyrics, you're

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Speaker 1: like a couple notes, little melody. You're like, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: not hirable. So I just don't think now. Dan Campbell

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Speaker 1: was in Detroit, went three thirteen and one his first year,

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Speaker 1: and it was kind of ridiculous at the press conference.

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Speaker 1: Remember bite then ecap thing, but remember that year, how relentless,

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Speaker 1: how aggressive fourth down? I can remember the first year saying,

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Speaker 1: this team plays harder than anybody in the league. They're

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Speaker 1: just not any good. So you can have a losing record,

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Speaker 1: it's not just a record. But if you watch Detroit

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Speaker 1: in year one, you're like, man, they're playing, they play

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Speaker 1: their arsoff, they they're setting a tone they have they're

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Speaker 1: a very almost overly aggressive culture. You tell me what

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Speaker 1: are what are the Jets hanging their hat on? So

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Speaker 1: even the press conference, so here was Aaron Glenn after

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Speaker 1: the game yesterday.

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Speaker 13: I always talk about how we come out when we

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Speaker 13: played with effort. Today was probably the one time I

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Speaker 13: feel like how effort wasn't.

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Speaker 1: That's good I would.

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Speaker 13: Want to be And that's just me not bsing you guys,

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Speaker 13: just being on this. I didn't think the effort was

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Speaker 13: where it need to be. We have to figure that

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Speaker 13: out because at some point, man not about to score anymore.

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Speaker 13: About the pride that you go out there and play with.

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Speaker 13: And again, I'm always going to talk about how our

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Speaker 13: guys played with effort, But today I didn't see the

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Speaker 13: effort that I felt like we needed to go out

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Speaker 13: there and compete at a high level.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so efforts. He's not talking schemes. He's on the

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Speaker 1: sideline watching it and he's like, well, I don't see

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Speaker 1: a lot of effort. And yet he went and watched

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Speaker 1: film and said this this morning. Effort was not the.

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Speaker 13: Issue with that game, I thought, I guys, I thought

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Speaker 13: they played all the way to the very end. It

642
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 13: was nothing about them that they were throwing the white

643
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 13: flag and they were quitting.

644
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Speaker 1: So to me, that's the one thing I really want.

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Speaker 13: To look at and see how that was again compactly

646
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 13: the things. Absolutely, but again our guys did not quit.

647
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Speaker 1: And my take, somebody got in his ear that's close

648
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: to him and said, dude, if it's effort, you'll get

649
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: fired because effort means lack of effort means the players

650
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: quit you. Somebody got into Aaron Glenn's ear and said,

651
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: don't do not say that. Do not say it's effort,

652
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: effort and a poor effort, saying the team quit on

653
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Speaker 1: you. You don't want to admit that. So somebody got in

654
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: his ear. He comes out this morning. So I don't

655
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: know what it is. You know, I'm not sitting there

656
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: breaking down tape. And again Jim tom Sula or a

657
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: Neat Hackett or a I don't think you need that much.

658
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: How can you not have an interception on this season?

659
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Speaker 1: I mean it's just if if they had the same record,

660
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: but they had fifteen interceptions. They had a bunch of

661
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: close losses. And I can remember when Jim Harbaugh took

662
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: over Stanford, Stanford was awful and at the end of

663
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: that first year was Stanford and Harball. I remember people

664
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Speaker 1: to Pack twelve are like they're the most physical team

665
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: in the conference. And Pete Carroll was at USC you

666
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: gotta be able to hang your on something. And I

667
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: don't see it. And I remember that Lion's here at

668
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: the end of that first year with Dan Campbell, the

669
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: last four games Detroit was two and two, and I

670
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: mean they were punching people, they were getting into back

671
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: room brawls, and you're like, they're not very good. But man,

672
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: you can go into the offseason thinking we got something here.

673
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: It's like a bad college football team that wins a

674
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: bowl game. You're like, all right, there's something to work for.

675
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: So I don't know. For me, I don't see it.

676
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't get it, and I don't think it takes forever.

677
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: But and you know, the downside is Vrabel took over

678
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: a team that at least had Drake May. Harbaugh took

679
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: over a team that had Justin Herbert. It's as way

680
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: easier to do. Liam Cohen walks in and has Trevor Lawrence.

681
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: It's easy. That's why maybe you go get you know,

682
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: I said this last week, is Lamar Jackson a terrible idea.

683
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: If you got the coach right, Lamar Jackson, think they'd

684
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: looked different. It's worth considering. Is it's worth the discussion.

685
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: That's all I know. Here's the next thing. A lot

686
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: of rumors about Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame coach, being the

687
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: New York Giants primary candidate. Marcus Freeman goes to x

688
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: slash Twitter this morning says twenty twenty six, run it back,

689
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: go Irish. Now, the cynical part of me thinks he

690
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: watched the Giants hammer the Raiders and knew he would

691
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: not get Fernando Mendoza, the Indiana quarterback is his number

692
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: one pick. So you know, Jackson Dart through eight starts,

693
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: nine star, Well, what's Jackson darts record. I mean it's

694
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: not you know, Jackson Dart's not Fernando Mendoza, and you

695
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: can't win in this league without an elite quarterback. I

696
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: am not convinced Jackson Dart is an elite quarterback. He's

697
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: better than I thought, But you know a lot of

698
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks better than I thought. So Jackson Dart as a

699
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: rookie three and eight, you know. So that's the cynical

700
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: part of me. I I think you can argue Notre

701
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: Dame or the NFL. But I look around the NFC

702
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: now and I see Caleb Williams, and I look around

703
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I see all these top quarterbacks and

704
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if Jackson Dart at three and eight

705
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: year one is something I'm gonna leave Notre Dame for.

706
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: I do think that Notre Dame is a great job

707
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: and have some advantages. I mean, if they finish in

708
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: the top twelve, they automatically get into the playoff. It's

709
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: a big name, they've got nil money, it's a great

710
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: place to play. You get such quality kids. I think

711
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is one of those top four or five jobs,

712
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: maybe a top two or three job, depending on what

713
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: matters to you in life. Not that far from Chicago.

714
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: There's fun around the corner. So Marcus Freeman staying, I mean,

715
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: look at their schedule next year. Outside of the home

716
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: game against Miami, They'll be favored by seven points or

717
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: more in every game. He's gonna win a lot of games.

718
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: You control the personnel. He's beloved, and I think college

719
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: football is not as hard to coach as it was

720
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: years ago. That's why you're seeing older coaches like Kyle

721
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: Winningham and Kurt Signetti working Because you're not on the

722
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: road recruiting like you used to. It's very administrative, it's

723
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: very transactional. You can just write a check and go

724
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: buy half your roster. So I don't think college football,

725
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of it now is just administrative.

726
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: Do we have anil money? Can I retain my players? Also,

727
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: it should be noted Notre Dame athletes do not leave

728
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: as often as other top ten programs. Players leave because,

729
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: and I get my take would be Notre Dame athletes

730
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: don't go just for the money, they go for the education.

731
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: I don't know this, but I think if you looked

732
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: at why Notre Dame has less player loss year to year,

733
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: it's because you go to Notre Dame for a lot

734
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: of reasons, not just give me a paycheck. It's such

735
00:39:53,840 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: a storied, academic, historic franchise. That's my kind of guess.

736
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Speaker 1: If you want to call a college program a franchise,

737
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: Notre Dame kind of is. So Marcus Freeman is staying.

738
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Speaker 1: The Jets may want to listen. Not all chefs, even

739
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: the good ones, can run a restaurant, right, So it's

740
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: not like a lot of I've said this. Sometimes you're

741
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: just a great vice president. You're not a president. You're

742
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: a great VP, You're not a CEO. You're a great chef,

743
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: You're not a great chef restaurant owner. So I go

744
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 1: back and I look at some of these coaches. They're

745
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: very good coordinators. Half of the NFL coordinators that get

746
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: head coaching jobs, it doesn't work after three or four years.

747
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: I defend a lot of coaches that people beat up on,

748
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: but it just feels like to me with the Jets,

749
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: if you can't get an interception all season one, I mean,

750
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks against the Jets are thirty four touchdowns, zero picks.

751
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: Even optimistic Jmac would acknowledge that's not ideal. Thirty four touchdowns,

752
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: bagel with picks, calling right wrong. Next