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Speaker 1: anybody can answer this question. Do you know who Keith

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Speaker 2: I know the name, which is where I was about

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I Jarrett. I like all kinds of music

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Speaker 2: Who are the goats?

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Speaker 1: Are you familiar that people now refer to goats as plural?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, that doesn't work at all. Sorry, you're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Apparently I'm wrong too. I've just become aware enough times.

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Speaker 1: Now you name goats. These three are the goats? The

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get it, but that's the way people

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Speaker 1: It's from live Bordeaux concert Live. Most of his famous

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Speaker 1: A note for Divorced Dads on Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, yeah. So we got to talking on

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Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory that she was dead after this abdominal surgery

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Speaker 2: just I'm now, if we're talking about bringing out a

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Speaker 2: I just it makes me uncomfortable. I feel like it's

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Speaker 3: But I see your point, Joe, as you're drawing the

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Speaker 1: Well, Joe's drawing very bright lines between good people and

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Speaker 2: Be what it's like to be in a hearing in Congress,

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Speaker 2: by not including that image? I don't know. You are

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Speaker 1: Myself, it's hard for me to wrap my head around

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Speaker 1: someone who who who clearly uses the thinning thing whenever

438
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Speaker 1: they post pictures, because I see them on a regular basis,

439
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: and I know that that's not what they look like, and.

440
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: That one I that I wonder about, I just think

441
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 2: that's fundamentally unhealthy. To thine own self be true is

442
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 2: like my my guiding principle for everything in life, because

443
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: and it's not I'm not coming off as high handed.

444
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: I think I may be better than some people at

445
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: least at recognizing my weaknesses and realizing you are really

446
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: tempted to do that. That's one of the things you

447
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,239
Speaker 2: really need to be careful about. And one of them is,

448
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: you know, self delusion or you know, how how would

449
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: I put this? And I'm more than willing to concede

450
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: that I'm I may be an outlier and a little

451
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: bit weird about this, and you live your own life.

452
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 2: I honestly don't care. I don't care enough about the

453
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Speaker 2: way you live your life to judge you unless you're

454
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Speaker 2: hurting other people. So don't take anything I say as

455
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Speaker 2: some sort of like Jack trying to frame it as

456
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Speaker 2: yours exactly. That's probably you know what, Honestly, that's probably

457
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: a better way to frame this discussion. It's more entertaining.

458
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: This is called Joe's the jerk. I just what are

459
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Speaker 2: you doing? Why are you doing that so people think

460
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 2: you're better looking than you are? Why for dating apps

461
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: if you're single and you're dating.

462
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Speaker 1: If I was doing that, and I've never done online

463
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Speaker 1: dating and I'm never going to, but if I was,

464
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: got it be, I don't think I could stop myself

465
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Speaker 1: from just slightly slimming your face.

466
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Speaker 2: I mean, fly different questions. Posting pictures of guys who

467
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Speaker 2: aren't even me.

468
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Speaker 1: That is a completely different question though, although at a

469
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Speaker 1: point though, you're really misleading people. I mean, because I

470
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Speaker 1: have heard people talk about showing up to meet somebody

471
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Speaker 1: and it's like, you're the same person from that photo.

472
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Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, I wouldn't want that. That would be hurtful.

473
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want I wouldn't want that myself. I don't

474
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Speaker 1: want to meet somebody that I lured them in by

475
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Speaker 1: making myself look different. They're like, whoa, oh dude, how

476
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: much time did you spend editing that photo? But man,

477
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: you can I messed around with face tune a while

478
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Speaker 1: just to see what it was like. Then I don't

479
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: even have it anymore because I'm I'm not gonna spend

480
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Speaker 1: that much time. But man, just it takes so little

481
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Speaker 1: effort to like slim your face just so when you think, wow,

482
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Speaker 1: I look so much better with just that much effort.

483
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Speaker 2: All right, here's the standard. And Katie cannot come in

484
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Speaker 2: on this because she's super pretty. Like the best non

485
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Speaker 2: retouched photo of you, because we all have them. Wow,

486
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: I look good in that pick. You know, that's as

487
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Speaker 2: high as you can go. That's as handsome or pretty

488
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Speaker 2: or whatever a time.

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Speaker 1: If all you're doing is bringing the photo up to

490
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Speaker 1: your best real photo, yes that's not bad as a standard.

491
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Speaker 2: If you are exceeding the possibilities of a real photo

492
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Speaker 2: of yourself, then you're doing things in your mind that

493
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Speaker 2: are not healthy.

494
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Speaker 1: If you change it to something you've never actually looked

495
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Speaker 1: that good, that that is a different category.

496
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 2: Unless again, you're trying to get laid, then anything goes Baby.

497
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: Here's a funny one.

498
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Speaker 1: I was disappointed that my Costco card expired because I

499
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Speaker 1: had a great picture on my Costco card.

500
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Speaker 2: It's like one of my better pictures of me ever.

501
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: For so, I had a driver's license once, I looked

502
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: like an action star. Yes, my first driver's license was money.

503
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: It all came together. I had a really good beard.

504
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: At that point, I looked at like a guy out

505
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Speaker 2: of the movies. Who would you know? Is he turned

506
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Speaker 2: out to be you know, some sort of master criminal?

507
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: Oh so good?

508
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: You know you end up you know how if you

509
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: end up in the news, the media grabs like your

510
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: driver's license photo and that becomes the photo going everywhere.

511
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: I've thought about that before if something happened, and now

512
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: the current driver's license photo I have is just awful.

513
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: I wish I could get a change that would be

514
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: the picture of what I look like for any story

515
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Speaker 1: you want.

516
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Speaker 2: You want it to be your Costco card photo? Yes, yes,

517
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Speaker 2: if you have to.

518
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: If something happens where I end up with the news,

519
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: good or bad, use my Costco card.

520
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: You let your Crossco card expire? Yeah? Somehow okay? So

521
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: why don't we go through a checklist of different Go ahead, Michael,

522
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: Did you have more criticism that is going to say,

523
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: you know, do you let your kids starve too? That? Yeah? Yeah,

524
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: a boy, that's what I was looking for. That's what

525
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: I was opening for, Michael. All right, So it throw

526
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 2: out scenarios and I'll rule whether they're okay. Now, for instance,

527
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 2: family picture, your kid has acne problems and is super

528
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: sensitive about it. Hmm, they're super sensitive about it.

529
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: That's different the family picture like the one that's gonna

530
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: go on the wall in the hallway.

531
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Speaker 2: Maybe a Christmas card. See, I'd be okay with it,

532
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: because that acne isn't forever.

533
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Speaker 3: You're going to grow up. And if they want that

534
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Speaker 3: picture up the way you know.

535
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: Then it is strictly speaking, a disease ease. I realize

536
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: that makes it sound more serious than that, but it

537
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: can be very serious for people and the way they

538
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: feel about themselves.

539
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Certainly for my own personal use the pictures my phone.

540
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: I've never altered my kids to make them look better ever,

541
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: not once.

542
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, I want to know what they look like, right, yeah.

543
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: Me on the other hand, what do you want to

544
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: do with me ever using slimming software and other than

545
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: like for dating functions?

546
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: I never have for real, I don't think I ever would,

547
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: except for dating situations. But so you know, all of

548
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: this is there are lots of gray areas you're I

549
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: guess some men do this too, but women do it more.

550
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: I think you're wearing some sort of slimming garment. How's

551
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: that different if you're wearing a slimming garment under your

552
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: dress at the wedding, Isn't that How's that different than

553
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: if you use the photoshop to slim yourself a little bit?

554
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: Why? Well, because it's it's possible in the real world.

555
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: So that's your standard again, is if you could get

556
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: yourself to look like that in the real world.

557
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny between the radio show and recording this,

558
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: I went and got some more ice water from the

559
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: kitchen and just everybody's getting ready and all right, let's

560
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: go do the podcast. I've been thinking hard about all

561
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: the things we've talked about today, and I've got to

562
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: form it all into a unified philosophy. And it's going

563
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: to be something like I'm a realistarian or something like that,

564
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: because the only thing that's going to keep me from

565
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: becoming like an angry nihilist, because I think the artificial world,

566
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: a virtual world, is incredibly unhealthy and is drawing humanity

567
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: and individual people into just terrible psychological places and addictions

568
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: and self hatred and suicide and depression and anxiety. I

569
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: think it is so effing unhealthy. We have not scratched

570
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: the surface of it. But the only way I can

571
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: live in that world is if I have an alternative

572
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: that I'm focused on, and it's going to be something

573
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: about anything that departs from what is real more than

574
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: just a little bit I'm just gonna reject. Yeah.

575
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: I wonder if that'll happen for anybody on the younger end, though,

576
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: Like Katie, you're younger, So wouldn't smartphones come out you're

577
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: a kid, probably when I.

578
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: Was in high school graduating.

579
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: If you're if you're a young person, especially women, but

580
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: if you if you've never lived in a world where

581
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: you couldn't easily manipulate your photos and make yourself a

582
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: better look there, how would you ever?

583
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: Not to answer your question, which I think is a

584
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: really interesting one, whether young people will you know, go

585
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: along with what I'm talking about or ever get a

586
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: chance to The answer is clearly yes, one hundred percent yes.

587
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: The question is how many I read something interesting the

588
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: other day, twenty somethings who have jettison TikTok and other

589
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: social media, and how happy they are. Now that's not

590
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: like seventy million in the United States, but it's thousands,

591
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: and just like you know, whether you want to cite

592
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: Christianity or healthy eating or regular exercise or whatever, just

593
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: because most people aren't is not a good reason to

594
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: stop advocating advocating for what's good and what's healthy. But

595
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: if I'm on the losing side again, that's fine. I

596
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: can live with that.

597
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: I was just singing for young people altering their photos.

598
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: One they will have always had that in their lives.

599
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: And two you kind of always are on a dating

600
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: app when you're It seems to me from observing social

601
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: media for young people, your life is a dating app.

602
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: It's an interesting point. Yeah, so good point. You're going

603
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: to be adjusting your phone.

604
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, how you couldn't have stopped me and like

605
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: if I hit we're in high school now, from altering

606
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: my photos to make myself look better?

607
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Not a chance.

608
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: You couldn't stop me with a gun from altering my

609
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: photos to make myself look better.

610
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a good point.

611
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what if you had an uncle that had well,

612
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: he was a pirate and he had a peg leg?

613
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Would you.

614
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: Pay no or put a different type of leg on there,

615
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: like herrot on his shoulder?

616
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: Well, of course it's an odd scenario. Michael. What's your

617
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: pirate uncle's name? It's hard for me to go forward

618
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: without a name. Art. Oh god, oh boy, I'm really

619
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: sorry about that.

620
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: Wow, brushing this out of the podcast.

621
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry about that.

622
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: Shiver me timbers, you gave me scurvy without Okay, all right.

623
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show, Jack, your show, podcasts and

624
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: our hot legs can I say this, Well, of course

625
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: I can say this. A friend I work with. His

626
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: wife is an obstetrician. The stories she has heard amaze

627
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: and the tattoos she has seen, oh, including one woman.

628
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: I think I can tell his story. I'm sure you can.

629
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: Should I though, oh, man, not want to get him

630
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: in trust. So we're talking about tattoos on the U

631
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: who oh my god? Or in the you who will

632
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: region the sympathy pain I'm feeling right now.

633
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: Is sign you know, without the pain, just as a

634
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: lifestyle choice, right, and sometimes it's just in the suburbs,

635
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: but not in the city center.

636
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: But uh, can I say this? You know what? I

637
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: can't say it. I'm gonna make this up completely. This

638
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: is Joe Getty lying in creating fiction that is in

639
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: no way based on any truth ever spoken by anybody.

640
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: One gal who is well haunt in years had a

641
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: boxing glove to either side and the caption hit it

642
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: like a champ. Oh my god, it's like a champ.

643
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: So then you have to think as a dude or

644
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: a woman.

645
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: I guess if she's a lesbian, but your first you know,

646
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: you become intimate after months of dating and courting and

647
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: then of course marriage, you decide.

648
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: To decide you love each other very much, You decide.

649
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: To become intimate, and this is the first time you

650
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: become aware of your the love of your life. Uh,

651
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: having it to too, that's hit it like a champ.

652
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: And that tattoo is like a week old.

653
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have questions. It's just reeks of class, you know. Yeah,

654
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: what do am I?

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Speaker 3: Hm?

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Speaker 2: How disturbed am I at that point? Am I thinking?

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Speaker 2: Maybe not? Or you're not who I thought you were?

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Speaker 2: Or and yes, Michael, do you bring a boxing bell

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Speaker 2: to bed? Ms? Get ready? Yeah? You do that whole

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Speaker 2: thing round? What was that a statement of of general

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Speaker 2: principle or was that like a specific message to a

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Speaker 2: lover of her past? I would have questions. So, baby,

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Speaker 2: I can't help but notice you've I'm going out a

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Speaker 2: whole set it to two. That's my goal, regardless of

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Speaker 2: your signage.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, you didn't I don't tell me to do that, right,

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Speaker 3: right exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's extraneous motivation.

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Speaker 3: This is reminding me that's my general practice, right, This.

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Speaker 2: Is reminding me of one of the funniest things.

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Speaker 3: So my mother got a tattoo for her fiftieth birthday

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Speaker 3: and it is a dolphin that is jumping over a shamrock.

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Speaker 2: And her big line was like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in fifteen years, it'll be an eel stuck in

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Speaker 3: a pine tree.

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Speaker 2: Wow. The comedy stylings of Katie's mom. She's fantastic. So

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Speaker 2: does this Where were we? So does this made up doc?

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Speaker 1: Yes, find a way to I just need to check

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Speaker 1: my messages.

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Speaker 2: Real quick, and then you kind of lean your phone

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Speaker 2: this wing quick

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