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Speaker 2: time to kick the ball. That'll be Sunday at noon

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Speaker 2: We'll go over this later, but not quite every eight

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Speaker 2: But we're fired up for the Saints and the Texans.

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Speaker 3: I got the Sunday's going to be a great day

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine how bad mac Jones would be if

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Speaker 4: He said, if you think that.

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Speaker 3: Robert Kraft won't fire Bill Belichick, then you don't know

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Speaker 1: Be right on yeah. And it's gonna call me to

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Speaker 4: Knew he was going to be a coach.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is really intense stuff. Okay, what do you

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Speaker 3: John, Well, that's certainly good for the Texans since they

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Everybody that picked Arizona, they have the first two picks

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Speaker 3: Now we know from watching Watson he's tough. He's physically tough.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm not saying when you got two hundred thirty

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Speaker 3: But people up there just killing him. Coaches first, as

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Speaker 3: And then the team president came out and he said,

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Speaker 1: I find it fascinating in general, the fact that he

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Speaker 1: But general, there is so much noise around Matt Canada,

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Speaker 1: I imagine you know him, Jerry Duloch.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not and absolutely not. The Rooney family is one

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Speaker 4: There is no way they would allow that to happen.

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Speaker 2: All right, So the Colts are going to be at

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Speaker 2: still bunched in pretty tight here in the AFC South,

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Speaker 3: I think the fact that Gardner Minshew has experienced as

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Speaker 3: I think Jacksonville win this game, but I think he'll

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Speaker 1: General, do you think there's a fire sale in the

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Speaker 3: He needs drap choices and because he gave up so many,

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Speaker 3: and everybody will accuse him of tanking, But I don't

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Speaker 3: think all those names I've seen that all of a

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing Nathaniel Ackett would say he's doing one of

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Speaker 2: If you ran the New York Jets, would you make

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Speaker 4: Based on what they talk about.

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Speaker 3: You know, they can't believe what they say. They believe

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Speaker 3: If they wanted to trade for Kirk Cousins, who's in

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Speaker 3: I haven't signing somebody like Cole McCoy to come in

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Speaker 3: But I don't see him going after Kirk Cousins general.

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Speaker 1: How much vitriol will Al Michaels take for saying that

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Speaker 3: Tonight, Well, first of all, the Chiefs ought to blow

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Speaker 4: I hope they do.

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Speaker 3: Because I can't stand Sean Bayden and Al Michaels and

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Speaker 3: he may al may not even know Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Swift is, but I'm telling you is everything.

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Speaker 3: When I saw a thing today on I guess it

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Speaker 4: What is a what is a holding? What is this?

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Speaker 3: They're trying to learn And when she's on there, and

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Speaker 3: I'm guarantee you of the league, not Al Michaels, is

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they'd be crazy not to do it. You

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Speaker 2: have to take advantage of this. Travis Kelsey has picked

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Speaker 2: being involved with her general We are in the midst

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Speaker 2: of the baseball playoffs, and the NFL playoffs have changed

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Speaker 3: First of all, I've gotten used to football. I got

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Speaker 3: mad Dog Russo just went after them today and he said,

436
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: what about the Astros? And he went over what happened

437
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: to the Astros last year, what's happened to the Astros

438
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 3: this year? So if those teams don't like it, then

439
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: when and then he hit bitch and win. So I

440
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: like the way the baseball is set up. Sean pender

441
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: Guest had a great idea on our Utopia Football podcast.

442
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 3: He said, okay, do it like this next year? The

443
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: teams that get a bye, say, you have the option

444
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: to going on the road for three games in a

445
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 3: wildcard series.

446
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 4: Would you rather do that or would you rather stay

447
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 4: where you are. Do you think any of them would say,

448
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 4: oh no, we want to go play three on the road.

449
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: I got one, though, I got one. Just play on

450
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: the Monday after the season, all right, say all sales

451
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: are final on Sunday, regular season finale. I don't care

452
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 2: if it rains or not. We're just going to take

453
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: the result and we're playing on Monday. I don't know

454
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: if that'll fly. General, what do you have for us

455
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: to ingest from sports Radio six to ten dot com

456
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: or whatever else you're doing. You mentioned the Utopia Football podcast.

457
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sewan and I do three of those a week

458
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: and on Sports Radio six ten dot com. I have

459
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: a Texans column yesterday and Astro's column today, and I'll

460
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: have another Texans column on Friday and then on Sunday

461
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 3: after they beat the Saints.

462
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: That sounds awesome. General, can't wait to talk to you

463
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: on the pregame show and get ready for Texans Saints

464
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Thanks a lot for your time as always.

465
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: All right, come coming up, John Harris and I will

466
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 2: play Who's Better. We're gonna talk about some of the matchups.

467
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about some players and things like that.

468
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: You never know what's gonna come up, plus the college

469
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 2: landscape that will come up as well in Who's Better?

470
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: As we roll on here, it's Texans Radio. More Texans

471
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Speaker 2: Radio is on the way now. So much fun to

472
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: be hanging out on a Thursday night on Texans Radio.

473
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: Mark vandermir and John Harris with you, and we do

474
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: this just about every Thursday. Who's Better? And we've got

475
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: some for you, Johnny, Let's rod, Let's go. Better chance

476
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 2: to win this weekend? The Titans against the Ravens, oh

477
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: the seas or the Colts against the Jaguars. Better chance?

478
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: Titans are Colts for a victory this weekend. Go Titans.

479
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we know the Duval curse, the Duval curse

480
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: for the Colts, like they can't win in Duval County.

481
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: They cannot do it. And I know the Colts are

482
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 1: an improved team, but it's a different coaching staff. So

483
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: I'll give them a little bit of a shot, but

484
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: they just can't do it. It doesn't matter that Jags always

485
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: beat the Colts in Duval County the same way the

486
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: Texans have shown to be the killers of the Jaguars

487
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: in Duval County. So the Texans killed the Jags. The

488
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: Jags killed the Colts right there at EverBank Stadium on

489
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: the banks of the Saint John's River, So that happens,

490
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: I do think, being serious about it, though, I do

491
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: think that it is the Colts. I think the Colts

492
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: are they'll play well with Gardner Mitchew minshe's going back

493
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: to face Jacksonville. I think Mitchew just keeps things, he

494
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: keeps it on the tracks, and as long as he's

495
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: not turned the ball over, he's not gonna do a ton.

496
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: But he's completing. Like against US, I don't remember what

497
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: the number was, but it was like fourteen to seventeen

498
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: for one fifties.

499
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: Zack Moss ran it well though, And the Jags know this.

500
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Speaker 1: Right right, and so I would imagine that they're gonna

501
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: see plenty of Zach Moss. And by the way, they've

502
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: got Jonathan Taylor back too, so they can go one

503
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: two punch there with the Colts. The Titans beating the Ravens,

504
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: I just don't I just don't see it. I haven't

505
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: seen it with the with the Titans at all. I don't.

506
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know they've got a really good defense.

507
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: We've talked about that a lot. I just don't think offensively.

508
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: You know, the one win they had earlier where they

509
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: beat the Bengals, everything clicked. Henry was on fire, you know,

510
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: hop had like eight catches. Tannehill didn't turn it over

511
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: and he beat a Bengals team that was, you know, wounded.

512
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: Now the Bengals have gotten well and they went to

513
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: Arizona beat the Cardinals the other day and Jamar Chase

514
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: got back involved. I just don't see the Titans doing

515
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: that consistently, especially against a team like the Ravens. The

516
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: Ravens went over there early and got over to England

517
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: early to acclimate body wise. It's interesting how that how

518
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: that's changed, Mark, because early on with the London games,

519
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: everybody went over there early. Yeah, and then it got

520
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: to nan and I we were over there, we got stay,

521
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: we're going on on Thursday. Well then when we went

522
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: to London, we went on Thursday. The Jags went on Thursday,

523
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: played the game on Sunday. But then last week it

524
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: was oh, well, the Bills weren't acclimated body wise and

525
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: the Jaguars were. That's why they had the advantage. And

526
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: so now teams are going to the Earth. I don't know.

527
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: I can't figure it out. It's a it's a tough

528
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: travel situation. You gotta do whatever you can. I know

529
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: that we went through it when we went to London.

530
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: You know, all the different things they told us to do. Hey,

531
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: sleep here, try and do this. The plane. You know,

532
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: it was dark at certain points to simulate, you know,

533
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: getting sleep at that time. It really isn't There isn't

534
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: a good way to do it. And so at that point,

535
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens going over there getting aclimated. I

536
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: think the Ravens will play well. I think they'll beat

537
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: the Titans, but I'm still gonna give the Titans a

538
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: shot because it's just so hard for whatever.

539
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: Reason, for the Colts to win in Duval County. Yeah,

540
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 2: and the Ravens, look, they're upset. I don't like this.

541
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: They're upset because they lost last week, so they'll be

542
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: extra motivated. Talk but it might apply a little bit.

543
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: They know they got to get their act together. They're

544
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: three and two, tied for first in the AFC North

545
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: with Pittsburgh, by the way, which just beat them, So

546
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: better chance to win the AFC North. Forget about the

547
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: Ravens for a moment. Pittsburgh or Cincinnati. Take the Ravens

548
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: out of.

549
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: It, Cincinnati. Eventually the house of cards offensively will fall

550
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh. It's just not good offensively. I mean we

551
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: saw it here. I mean, they kicked two field goals

552
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: against us. And look, I mean, as great as I

553
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: want the defense to be, we're not the eighty five Bears,

554
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: and they kicked.

555
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: Two field goals.

556
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 5: That was it.

557
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: This only did that day. So I do think that

558
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: eventually the Bengals will all get healthy. But here's here's

559
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: the thing. For the Bengals, I still I still don't

560
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: see a good offensive line in front of Joe Burrow.

561
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: So if you get pressure and Joe's not able to

562
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: get out of there, he's one hundred percent with the

563
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: calf and he's not able to get out of there,

564
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: well now it's troubled. Now against the Cardinals, he was

565
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: able to move and make some throws, and maybe the

566
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: old Joe is back. But I just think that the Steelers'

567
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: house of offensive cards falls at some point and to

568
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: a point where it's really really bad. The defense is great.

569
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: They'll get Cam Hayward back at some point, which is

570
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: gonna help them. But I just think offensively. They're not

571
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna win a shootout. If it gets to a shootout

572
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: like the other day against US, that's that was a

573
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: great opportunity for them to get a shootout. That can't

574
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: do it. They can't do it. They have to win

575
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: a game a certain way. Seventeen to fourteen. That's what

576
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: they beat the Ravens the other day, seventeen ten or

577
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: some mistakes, that's the way they win the game. That's

578
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: why they beat the Browns, same exact way. Defensive special teams,

579
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: and that's okay, go there gonna be nine to eight

580
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: doing it that way. But eventually the house cards will fall.

581
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to win with your offense. The Bengals

582
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: can do that, Steelers can't.

583
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to two teams that are miserable right now.

584
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: Better chance at a rebound, not this weekend necessarily, but

585
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: this season, better chance at a rebound the one in

586
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: four Patriots or the one in four New York Football Giants.

587
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: I knew your card. I knew you were gonna say

588
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots when we.

589
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: Talked about that with the General, and I just am

590
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: so fascinating, fascinated by the way they talk about the

591
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: NFL being the greatest reality show. But it's not The Bachelor,

592
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: it's not Big Brother, it's Survivor, right, and you have

593
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: to survive week after week. You just brought up the Bengals.

594
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: You got to come down the stretch and be healthy somehow,

595
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: are healthy enough to be competitive as far as the

596
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: Patriots go, not very healthy, quarterback, not playing well. Total

597
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: disaster right now at one and four for their context

598
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: and maybe for any teams. But the Giants are much

599
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: better here Johnny Daniel Jones banged up. Oh my gosh,

600
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: how is it going to be a Buffalo this weekend?

601
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: But even beyond that, better chance at the rebound, Patriots

602
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: are giants.

603
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say giants because if you think about two

604
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: players for each team, you got Matthew Judhon and Christian

605
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: Gonzalez on the Patriots, arguably the two best players. The

606
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: Patriots have both out for extended periods of time. Andrew

607
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: Thomas is Sakuon Barkley. I believe Thomas is coming back,

608
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 1: if not already back, and Barkley's coming back soon. So

609
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna get those two guys back. And those two

610
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: guys are instrumental to the Giants. But Patriots aren't gonna

611
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: get their two guys. The Giants are gonna get their

612
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: two guys. So I'm gonna go Giants for that reason.

613
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: Now they've got Saquon Barkley Andrew Thomas coming back, if

614
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: not back already, and I think that's that's gonna be

615
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: a big factor for them. I just don't think the

616
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: Patriots can do anything offensively at all. They have no

617
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: offensive players where you go, Oh, that guy scares me.

618
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: At least with Barkley on the field, you're like, Okay,

619
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: that guy's really good. We have to worry about him.

620
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: And if if it is Trod Taylor that ends up

621
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: playing for Daniel Jones, Trod could keep the train on

622
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: the tracks. And at that point he'll get Darren Waller involved.

623
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: Waller has just not got involved in the offense. You

624
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: get Waller involved, and you have Barkley. I think the

625
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: Giants have a good opportunity to turn it around. Patriots.

626
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: No, all right, let's do this now, miserable coaches category,

627
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw it more likely to happen, and who's

628
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: better more likely to happen? Bill Belichick stays in New

629
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 2: England and somehow ends his career in New England. Whenever

630
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: that might be, could be next week, could be three

631
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: years from now, whenever it might be. Or Bill Belichick

632
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: coaches somewhere else eventually. And by somewhere else, I mean

633
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Not a Mike Holmgren coach coaching a

634
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: high school team on Cape Cod. Nothing like that coaching

635
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: in the National Football League.

636
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna give you. And I heard this

637
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: the other day and it made a lot of sense.

638
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: I was like, oh boy, that would be that would

639
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: be interesting. And it includes the last two teams we

640
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: talked about. I think Brian Dables a really good coach,

641
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: so I think the Giants will get things kind of

642
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: turned around. But would it surprise me at some point

643
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: if the Giants aren't happy with Dable and the Giants

644
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: made a move for Bill Belichick where I think down deep,

645
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick wanted to be the New York Giants head

646
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: coach more than anything.

647
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, he loves the history of the game and

648
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: they have a ton of it. He knows it all.

649
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: He won Super Bowls there as a defensive coordinator. I

650
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: think it makes a ton of sense. And I thought

651
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: about this, you and I talked about this before it

652
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: was popularized that this might be a destination for him

653
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: if everything unraveled there or continued to and everything raveled

654
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: in New England, he could end up with the Giants

655
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: if he wanted to, and I think they would welcome

656
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: him with open arms. I think a lot of teams

657
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: would actually absolutely.

658
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: And I think and it happens, and it happens throughout

659
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: the league. It happens. I mean, you can see what

660
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: players like Aaron Rodgers talked about this summer before he

661
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: got hurt, how rejuvenated he was to go to just

662
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: a different situation, just to see a different way of

663
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: doing things in New York and New Jersey with the Jets,

664
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: as opposed to how the Packers did him. And Belichick's

665
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. Now he's been around, He's seen

666
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: other NFL teams do things a different way. But maybe

667
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: it's time to see it again with the Giants. I'm

668
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: gonna say it's a different team. Maybe it's not the Giants,

669
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: but I do think he's gonna finish it with a

670
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: different team because I think Robert Kraft is gonna get

671
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 1: to a point where it's like, Okay, Bill, thank you,

672
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: but we've got to start anew We've got to rejuvenate

673
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: this thing. We need young, younger blood. And here's here's

674
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: the other thing too. I think with Belichick and the

675
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: game has definitely not passed him by. I don't think

676
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: there's any question in that. But the game has changed significantly. Yeah,

677
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,239
Speaker 1: just in the last five years. It's changed significantly. And

678
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: for them it's changed significantly because TB twelve walked away,

679
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: so they've not yet figured out how to handle all that.

680
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: So maybe Kraft is ready to move on hand it

681
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: to somebody a little younger, maybe a little more innovative.

682
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't know who that might be, but I think

683
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: at that point Bill Belichick will not want to go

684
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: quietly in the night. He'll want to find a spot

685
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: and there will be a team that says, coach, we

686
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: got a spot right here forever for whatever you want

687
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: to do and whatever you want to be.

688
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: All right, we might go back to the NFL, time permitting,

689
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: but let's go to campus here. Who's better better chance

690
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: to win? Miami at North Carolina. Oh no, they're hosting

691
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: North Carolina. So Miami and North Carolina or no, tre

692
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: Dame hosting USC better chance? To win, the Irish upsetting

693
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: the Trojans or the Hurricanes defeating North Carolina.

694
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Well, if the Irish win, the Irish are actually favored

695
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: by three. How about that? No Dame's favorite?

696
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: Bye?

697
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

698
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Notre Dame is favored by three? Are you serious that?

699
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: I didn't even look. I just looked at the top

700
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: nine schedule.

701
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: But I mean that's the thing. I think people assume

702
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: that USC would be favored in that.

703
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: I kind of didn't say familiar with what just happened

704
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame last week.

705
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: Yes, but USC especially defensive. He gave it forty one

706
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: to Colorado. They gave it forty one to Arizona, and

707
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: Notre Dame doesn't have quite that kind of firepower. But

708
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: the kid playing quarterback for Arizona last week was a

709
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: what a true freshman, but he's a RECHERR freshman. Pretty good.

710
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: Who would you take in this game?

711
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: Straight up? I'm taking h I'm taking Notre Dame really

712
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: because I just think that USC, as much as Kayleb

713
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: Williams will keep him in it. They should have got

714
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: beat last week by Arizona. Arizona had him down, and

715
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: I think.

716
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: You got the premiere player in the game, right, you do,

717
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: and it makes a huge difference.

718
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: And I think you put up a couple of touchdowns.

719
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: Lead listen, you know you know I'm a huge believer

720
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: in Kayleb Williams. I mean, I love Kayleb Williams and

721
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: he's number one in Harrison one hundred. But Notre Dame

722
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: physically can just take over the game. And I think

723
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's defense is the best one that USC has

724
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: faced this year, and so they'll get challenged. And oh,

725
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: by the way, you know who USC's best wide receiver is.

726
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: His name is Brendon Rice.

727
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, not one of these. Hello, Marvin Harrison Junior

728
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: just called and said, that's for people's kids. Do well.

729
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: It's Jerry's son, Jerry Rice's son. And he's good. He's

730
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: really really good. He's a big he's a big time player.

731
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: Is giving good or is he just a good viral

732
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: guy to a crossover for a female appeal.

733
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: He's he's good. Okay, not great, he's good. He's good

734
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: enough against that USC defense. And I give Notre Dame

735
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: more of a shot a beating USC than I do

736
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: Miami a beating North Carolina because Miami is overcoming one

737
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: of the most brutal losses any college team has had.

738
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: It's in a long time puncher, so it's worse than

739
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: a gut puncher. It was an Oregon remove.

740
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: It was awful. It was awful the way mark. They

741
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: were two victory formation kneel downs away from being undefeated

742
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: six to zero, playing the biggest game of the weekend

743
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: against North Carolina. Instead, they completely blew it, lost the game,

744
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: lost the undefeated season players at that point. I don't

745
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: know if they trust the coaches. Coaching staff's got to

746
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: come out and defend what happened. I mean, it's just

747
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: it was a mess after last week's game against Georgia Tech.

748
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: So I am going with Notre Dame to beat USC

749
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: is probably more likely to happen than Miami being North Carolina.

750
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the gs and the volunteers.

751
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm really confused. I'm really confused. Both teams confuse me.

752
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: Texas A and m Angers me because they've got more talent,

753
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: and then they've had a long time and then they

754
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 1: make mistakes at the end of the game that really

755
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: weren't even theirs. I mean, you talk about Mario christopaal

756
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: making mistakes, jim of Fisher handled a clock the way

757
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: he just he bungled the whole ending of that game,

758
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: and then Nick Savid tried to maybe give it back

759
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: to him, but Alabama hung on. And look, there's no

760
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: shaming losing Alabama. There's no no shame in that. A

761
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: and M had more overall talent than Alabama had, and

762
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: really physically Alabama took it to him. Tennessee, I just

763
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, Tennessee's interesting me. They've got a few players

764
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: here there, really good up front on defense, in particular,

765
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Joe Milton's got the strongest arm all college football. But

766
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: what does that get you? I don't know. I really,

767
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know who's showing up for either one

768
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: of these two teams, to be honest with you. So

769
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the volunteers just because I probably

770
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: trust them a little bit more. I trust Josh Hipel

771
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: more than I trust Jimbo Fisher. How about that? So

772
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm going with Tennessee volunteers.

773
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: All right? Sounds good, Johnny. That was awesome. Thanks you

774
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: to talk to you tomorrow, got it, Thank you? All right?

775
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: Coming up a few things about the Texans and the Saints,

776
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: a few Texans Saints' memories and also Houston Methodi's minutes,

777
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 2: It's crucial catch Sunday, It's big stay toned Texans Radio,

778
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: all right, one final segment on the program tonight. Since

779
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: the Texans played the Saints, an NFC team, that means

780
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: they only visit about every eight years. I say about

781
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: because it used to be a lead pipe sinch. That

782
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: would be the case back in the days of the

783
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: sixteen game schedule. But with a seventeen game schedule, you're

784
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: going to play when you have the extra home game,

785
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: even on the road. Actually, another NFC team that you

786
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: played in the division you participated with two years ago,

787
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: do you understand that anybody following along, for instance, Arizona

788
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: is coming here. You were there two years ago. You

789
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: finished in the same slot as they did in the

790
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: NFC West. That's where you finished in the AFC South. YadA, YadA, YadA. Anyway,

791
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: you have the Saints coming here on Sunday and you

792
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: don't see them very often. That was my point. You

793
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: haven't seen them here since twenty fifteen. That was a

794
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: Texans victory and if you saw it on social media

795
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: also in two thousand and seven, the Texans took on

796
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: the Saints. They went to five and five at the time,

797
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 2: which was big news. That was their best record after

798
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: ten games ever at the time, and Adrey Johnson returned

799
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 2: from a seven game absence due to a knee andy

800
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: and caught a bomb seventy three yards from match shop.

801
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: That play went out on social media today and it's

802
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 2: gone Texans viral. I'm gonna say that Texans viral. It's

803
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: not like Beyonce did something viral, but it's Texans viral

804
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: and it's pretty cool stuff. Also cool. A current receiver

805
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: named Nico Collins Drew jlready caught up with him at

806
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: his locker today two minutes with a Texan.

807
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 6: Nico, what stands out to you about the Saints defense?

808
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 7: All Right, they got sail the secondary man, SUICIDID corners,

809
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 7: suicilid safeties, d line, and some dogs.

810
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: Man.

811
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 7: You know, we know, we know what the Saints is

812
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 7: all about. It's have come down to the detailed Sunday

813
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 7: and who wanted more?

814
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: Really?

815
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 7: You know, we know it's gonna be a dog game,

816
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 7: but it's really gonna come down who really want them more?

817
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 7: And who's gonna be funnily sondamental man with out there

818
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 7: making place.

819
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 6: You know, you guys are back at Energy Stadium and

820
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 6: the last time you're hear a lot of fans from

821
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 6: the opposing team. Probably gonna be a little bit like

822
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 6: that on Sunday. But that's not a big deal to you.

823
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 6: It didn't seem like it was. It made much difference

824
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 6: to you guys talking.

825
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 7: With with a different crowd, the crowd in there. Oh yeah,

826
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 7: I kind of like it, honestly. When that's type team

827
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 7: bringing it on the rage here, it's.

828
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: I love I love it actually, man.

829
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 7: You know, because they think they trying to come into

830
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 7: your house, then they're gonna win the game. And like, nah,

831
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 7: it ain't about to go like that. You know, he

832
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 7: was gonna flip that switch and go aad there you

833
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 7: have fun. Like I said, come down to the details.

834
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 7: I feel that's how every week is, every NFL game is.

835
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 7: You know, he always come down to the last drive,

836
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 7: that fourth quarter, And I feel like you gotta be dout,

837
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 7: dout in an entire game, man, and leave it all

838
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 7: out out there.

839
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 6: When there are situations like that. Does it kind of

840
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 6: make you amped up a little bit more? Maybe? Yeah?

841
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do your little juice.

842
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 7: You do your little juice, you know, especially when the

843
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 7: crowd in the two Oh yeah, man, you get that

844
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 7: like yeah, let's go. Look at you, look at the team,

845
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 7: they look at your brother, you like yeah, let's go.

846
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 7: You know, this is what you want, man. You want

847
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 7: that momentum. You want the energy and go ahead to

848
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 7: jump around, man, because it's contagious and you want that.

849
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 7: I feel like the more the more energy, the more juice,

850
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 7: the more excitement and more plays gonna happen, you know.

851
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 7: So looking forward to this week, man, we all.

852
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: Are thanks Nigo, you appreciation.

853
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: There's Drew Jordi with Nico Collins and whatever music is

854
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: playing in the background. We don't have the rights to it,

855
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: but you can't really tell what it is anywhere. All right,

856
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: let's get to this now. It's crucial catch week. So

857
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: many people have been affected. We had a little poll

858
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 2: this morning in our pregame meeting with the entire business

859
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: operations staff. This is over one hundred and twenty people

860
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: and Doug Vasik, our senior VP of marketing, set everybody

861
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Speaker 2: raise your hand. If you've had a family member affected

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Speaker 2: by cancer, you know, either who died or recovered or

863
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Speaker 2: whatever the situation is. Ninety percent of the room raised

864
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Speaker 2: their hand. My gosh, everybody's got somebody. My mom died

865
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Speaker 2: when I was twenty four, she was fifty of lung cancer.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into this though. It's breast cancer Awareness a month,

867
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Speaker 2: as it is with really all cancers. That's how we

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Speaker 2: do it with Crucial catch But let's catch up with

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Speaker 2: Houston Methodist minutes doctor Ester Dobrovski, who is a breast

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Speaker 2: cancer surgeon. Doctor, how's it going.

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Speaker 5: Going very well?

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Speaker 1: It's great talking to you, great to talk with you.

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Speaker 2: And I know it's such a big week, big month

874
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Speaker 2: here and it's always big for you dealing with what

875
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Speaker 2: you deal with in the world of breast cancer. And

876
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Speaker 2: this being the Crucial catch game for the Houston Texan

877
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: on Sunday, we thought it would be terrific to catch

878
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Speaker 2: up and get some of the latest advances in technology

879
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: as far as treatment detection, things like that. What can

880
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Speaker 2: you share with us as far as the latest and

881
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: most important things about detecting breast cancer, getting checked, that

882
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: sort of thing. Doctor, So, the.

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Speaker 5: Most important thing that I would want to stress is

884
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Speaker 5: that one in every eight women develops breast cancer, So

885
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Speaker 5: it's really really important to get your mammogram every year

886
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 5: starting at age forty. We now standardly do three dimensional

887
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 5: mammograms when we screen for breast cancer. We can catch

888
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 5: a lot more this way, So definitely go ahead and

889
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 5: get your mammogram. If you're forty or above, you should

890
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Speaker 5: be getting one every year.

891
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Speaker 2: When you detect something. I know there are various stages,

892
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Speaker 2: but I'm hearing more about treatment, getting things done early

893
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: and correcting the problem for lack of a better way

894
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: of putting it sooner rather than later, and having a

895
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Speaker 2: lot of success. What can you tell us about the

896
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Speaker 2: latest as far as that is concerned.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, this earlier you detective breast cancer, the more likely

898
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 5: you are to survive. And actually if you can catch

899
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 5: the breast cancer very early, your survival is of forwards

900
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Speaker 5: ninety five percent. So that is the key is to

901
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 5: get the mammogram done so that we can catch things

902
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Speaker 5: when they're still very small and very curable.

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Speaker 2: Doctor, we hear a lot about the stectamese. We hear

904
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Speaker 2: a lot about maybe removing a lump or something like that.

905
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Speaker 2: How do you determine what is appropriate to do as

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Speaker 2: far as surgery treatment recovery from that as well.

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Speaker 5: That's a great question. We usually look at the size

908
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 5: of the cancer. If it's very very small, then we

909
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 5: usually offer the lumpeck to me. We always leave it

910
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 5: up to the patient to decide, but we offer the

911
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 5: lumpack to me if it's small enough. If it's very large,

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00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 5: or it's throughout the whole breast, then we end up

913
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 5: having to do the mass deectivy. But we always discuss

914
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Speaker 5: the options that the patient qualifies for. Let them decide

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Speaker 5: and take it from there.

916
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Speaker 2: Doctor, what about what causes breast cancer? I know you

917
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: deal in the world of surgery, but I know you

918
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: have a great deal of curiosity and there's a lot

919
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: of research going on. Anything you can share with us

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Speaker 2: about that prevention.

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Speaker 5: What what I like to tell people is that the

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Speaker 5: main reason we're called mammals is because we have memory lands.

923
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Speaker 5: We have memory glands, and that is why we develop

924
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: breast cancer because we have this tissue. And so whenever

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00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 5: you have breast tissue, you're at risk of developing cancer

926
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Speaker 5: over time. In that tissue, we have certain things that

927
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 5: put us at increase risk, things like smoking and obesity.

928
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 5: Those things do increase risk of breast cancer. But at

929
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Speaker 5: the end of the day, you can do everything absolutely right,

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Speaker 5: live a perfectly healthy lifestyle and still develop breast cancer

931
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Speaker 5: just because you have breast.

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Speaker 2: Well, doctor, that's great information. We really appreciate and thanks

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Speaker 2: for all the good work you do. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: doctor Esther Dobroski from Houston Methodist, a breast cancer surgeon.

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Speaker 2: And for more information on crucial catch and everything involved

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Speaker 2: with Houston Methodists, it's Houston method dot org. That's where

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Speaker 2: you go. Houston Methodist Leading Medicine, the official healthcare provider

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Speaker 2: of the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's it for the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, John Harris, John McClean, everybody who is a

941
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Speaker 2: part of the program tonight. We'll be back at six

942
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Speaker 2: tomorrow with Tamiko Ryans, Matt Burke defensive coordinator, and who

943
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Speaker 2: knows who else is going to show up. I think

944
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Speaker 2: Titus Howard as well. Have a great night, everyone, Go Texans.