WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: In Sync Mojo

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>It is deja vu all over again. We are thirty

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<v Speaker 1>hours away from some Dallas Cowboys preseason football and you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a live shot at the Ford Center and

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<v Speaker 1>Tostitos Plaza here at the beautiful headquarters of the Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys and Frisco Texas. And if this is my last time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going out with a bang. Jesse, you are now

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<v Speaker 1>rocking with the best. This is hanging with the Boys,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm with the gang Gang for the last time

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<v Speaker 1>today because we're going back to our regular podcast. But

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Daniels, Danny Serek and Jesse Holly here end up

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<v Speaker 1>building And guys, if you had an opportunity yesterday to

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<v Speaker 1>tune in to the press conference press conference yesterday, there

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<v Speaker 1>were three little initials that were blurted by our fearless leader,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Romeo India. Who will be taken on Monday when

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<v Speaker 1>the team gets back into town. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's obviously I think he's going to Arizona. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that, but guys, I need to know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with you, Kurt, What did that give you

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<v Speaker 1>warm and fuzzies? When Dak Prescott said that he was

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<v Speaker 1>getting another MRI on that shoulder, Well, when I first

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<v Speaker 1>heard of, the immediate reaction is, oh, you know, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. But the more I read about it and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of heard about it, it it sounds like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>they're just checking to see how things are going and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to see if it has improved. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>an update. He's throwing some in practice. It doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like hard, but he's throwing some, which is a good sign.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think what I'm telling myself, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>stay positive. I don't want to get the toms out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking that this is just part of the progress

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<v Speaker 1>and to see where he's at right now, so hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>it's going the way it's should look. The team wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have him do those smaller, lighter throws he was throwing

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<v Speaker 1>to Amari Cooper who's coming off his injury now, so

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't have him do even those throws. If they

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<v Speaker 1>were truly concerned that he had moved backwards in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of his progress or was feeling worse. So that makes

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<v Speaker 1>me feel a little more at ease of maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is just more let's make sure before we have him

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<v Speaker 1>going full speed in practice, before we make a decision

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<v Speaker 1>if he's going to play in that third preseason game,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get the MRI again, make sure he's good to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the rest and the cautionary protocols they've been

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<v Speaker 1>taking have done their job firing the hole. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, my only concern was why wait till Monday?

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<v Speaker 1>They're not an MRI machine in the last week, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I start looking kind of what was why Monday? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>why really want to get him back here where our

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<v Speaker 1>maybe our facilities are different something I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, like Mrs MRI is correct, I mean, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, last time I check, Jim Morrow will be here,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Murrow will be there, Brick will be there, Greg

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<v Speaker 1>will be Like I don't, I don't know the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between getting it done right in and there and having

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<v Speaker 1>a do they want a few extra days to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe they had a goal of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen days whatever till we check the next MRI. I

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it's something like that? That's the question

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<v Speaker 1>that we all. I mean, this is this is the

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<v Speaker 1>question that we're asked. And my thing is always, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't go get MRI's cat scans, CT scans or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>scan you want to go get unless there's something wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not pushing the button and I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that something is wrong, and they can be doing a checkup.

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<v Speaker 1>But that just goes to show that again we were

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<v Speaker 1>misled because we were told it was fatigue, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we hear that there's experts being consulted, other sports team

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<v Speaker 1>physicians are being consulted, and went from a few days

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<v Speaker 1>to wear like almost two weeks. He did a light

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<v Speaker 1>throwing and we'll get more into the hard knocks thing

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<v Speaker 1>of things. But when you heard him in hard knocks

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<v Speaker 1>and when it was kind of like, well, where did

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of come from? Right, and it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was like the follow through, And so what he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>practice was a bunch of light throws. There was nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that had any zip behind it. It wasn't like he

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<v Speaker 1>was throwing hard passes. So maybe you get to a

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<v Speaker 1>point where I'm able to kind of loft some up

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<v Speaker 1>and but what happens when you got to throw some

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<v Speaker 1>zip behind it? Now, if they've done that off camera,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't heard any reports about it, But that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>just my biggest thing is when you start adding MRIs

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<v Speaker 1>and multiple MRIs to situations, it's it's it's cause for concern.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't care who spends it on how

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<v Speaker 1>they spin it. There is cause for concern in the shoulder. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little surprised that they're I mean, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised if he plays in the third preseason game and I, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking about they want to get him out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, like before they said, oh this

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<v Speaker 1>is just a fatigue injury and oh yeah, he'll play

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<v Speaker 1>in the third preseason gain. I kind of wish they'd

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<v Speaker 1>just be quite, you know, not not get our hopes up,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it, you know, be honest about it in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about the drama, you know, that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>major in is the drama is making sure that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is on the edge to their seats and all of

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy Nation, all of the sports community, football, NFL everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>on the edge of the seat trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with Dak's shoulder. But at this point

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<v Speaker 1>we can and I played around with it about the

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety of what it feels like to know going into

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<v Speaker 1>a season that you may not have your number one quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're getting into that point where he hasn't thrown

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<v Speaker 1>with the ones in what thirteen days? We're at the

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<v Speaker 1>thirteenth day of this. So if we continue this trend

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<v Speaker 1>of him not throwing, the team is back here on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday practice this Monday, another preseason game approaching. He may

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<v Speaker 1>not play in that game? Are we not? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>sure that Dak is going to be ready for at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the season. It doesn't concern me about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's had thirteen fourteen days without throwing

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<v Speaker 1>to his ones, because, first of all, the ones, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking to Mary Cooper and Michael Gallup, Seedee lamb,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you want to go down you know, Noah

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<v Speaker 1>brown Sadric Wilson, the tight ends. These are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>he's had all last year, with the exception of really

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<v Speaker 1>sed years before that. And also given it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>official way of doing things by any means. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason, Dak had all of these guys out to

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<v Speaker 1>his house every day practicing and throwing out on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>So doesn't concern me as much that he's gone maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks without throwing to his ones, because these are

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<v Speaker 1>people he has that chemistry with already. But let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you this, Danny with the injury from last year,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that he has the ankle, knowing that he won't

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't have if he doesn't play in the preseason game,

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<v Speaker 1>does that worry you? I mean, even with the familiarity,

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<v Speaker 1>is there arrust component to this that we're not looking

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<v Speaker 1>at Because he's a quarterback you would like for your quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why you give him those reps in preseason

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<v Speaker 1>it's to get him in rhythm. Do you worry about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily think I worry as much from the

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<v Speaker 1>ankle standpoint. I think I think he's ready. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really seem like a lot of the reason

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<v Speaker 1>they were I mean, of course you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>cautious getting back into things, but it doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 1>they had any concern going into the season. We're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know he's really going to be ready on

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<v Speaker 1>that ankle. That doesn't seem to have been a concern

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<v Speaker 1>by any means. I'm just wondering, like, when is he

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<v Speaker 1>going to get hit? It's that mental aspect that he's

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<v Speaker 1>talked about of you need to get hit once realize

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<v Speaker 1>you can get up or maybe do a run right like,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's how he hurt his ankle. I think once

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<v Speaker 1>you get those mentally and you realize I can still

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<v Speaker 1>do this, then you're fine. I don't I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>worry about rust of like coming off the injury per

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<v Speaker 1>se physically. The part that's concerning to me is if

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you know what, he's not going to play

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<v Speaker 1>any preseason games, Okay, cool, Then that tells me that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to get all of the practice reps right,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the ones practice rep and he can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of keep that rhythm and that kind of the mojo

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. But now when you're taking away preseason games

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<v Speaker 1>and you haven't practiced throwing the ball in a live

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<v Speaker 1>setting as far as practice wise in two weeks, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they're not going to start Monday and just

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<v Speaker 1>throw him back into the fire. Well, he's firing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>forty fifty passes and the practice again, so now you

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<v Speaker 1>limit that practice as well, So you're not getting games

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<v Speaker 1>and you're limited to what you can do at practice

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<v Speaker 1>while he while he's there. Mentally, there is a rust

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<v Speaker 1>component when it comes to this, especially for a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>who isn't the most accurate passer that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>begin to begin with it, Like he doesn't come with well,

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<v Speaker 1>one of his qualities isn't when you talk about Dak

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<v Speaker 1>Prescott is oh my god, he's super accurate with the football. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there you have to go down the list of

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<v Speaker 1>things before you get to the accuracy part. When describing

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott the quarterback, Well, when you're taking away these

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<v Speaker 1>reps and you you you're you're not playing in preseason

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<v Speaker 1>games and you're not practicing weekend and week out, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the season comes, well, those count. Those count. And

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<v Speaker 1>we all know that when you go back and you

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<v Speaker 1>watch a sixty five seventy play game from an offensive standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've heard coach speaks said all the time, there

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<v Speaker 1>are three or four or five players within that game

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of the determining factor of that game

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<v Speaker 1>could have been a third down ball, could have been

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<v Speaker 1>thrown behind, could have been a little bit too high,

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<v Speaker 1>could have been a step you know, a step late,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, tick late on releasing the ball. Whatever those

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<v Speaker 1>things may be. Those are rush factors for any quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And that goes from your Peyton Manning's to your Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Brady's to your Aaron Rodgers. Those type of things you

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<v Speaker 1>need to work through, and a lot of those guys use,

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<v Speaker 1>if not the preseason games, every single rep in practice

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<v Speaker 1>to get those things worked on. And so now when

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking those away and you're tripping those away from him,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I don't want to sound redundant to an

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<v Speaker 1>already not specifically accurate passer, that to me is it's

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<v Speaker 1>a cost. It's a cost for concern from me. That's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just his ability too. I agree he's got

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<v Speaker 1>the mental part of it's going to be the tougher part.

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<v Speaker 1>But like we talked about before, it's the cadence of

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<v Speaker 1>the whole offense and you know, getting rhythm with the

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<v Speaker 1>line and all that kind of stuff. And we had

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<v Speaker 1>talked about before that this defense may not be in

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<v Speaker 1>full sync until five or six games into the season,

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<v Speaker 1>which means your offense better be in sync game one

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to pull out some wins and this

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<v Speaker 1>is that going to be a problem. Yeah, sorry, quick question,

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<v Speaker 1>just general question. Now, going off of that, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what you two think of, like in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the rust and Dak right and getting those reps,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how much of that rust is not just on

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<v Speaker 1>him but also working with this offensive line he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have last year, Like, it's how much of getting through

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<v Speaker 1>that rust if you want the offense to be so

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<v Speaker 1>great early on, like it's cohesive. Yeah, I would think that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you had talked about it. I think like even

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<v Speaker 1>if Dak weren't hurt, right, we would still be expecting

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<v Speaker 1>rust because of the offensive line coming off injuries. No, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>but you get you get a chance to work that

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<v Speaker 1>in practice, right, You see what I'm saying. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you take him off the practice field for a significant

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time, he's not able to do those things.

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<v Speaker 1>So the relationship with the receiver, it's the whole. It's everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's everybody. It's it even gets down to Danny

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<v Speaker 1>and Kurt and heck, but it gets down to even

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore. Because offensive and defensive play callumn is rhythm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a shooter when they get in that pocket

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's just flowing. And then that's how guys

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<v Speaker 1>get into the game, right And so for Kellen, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to be in my quarterback to start seeing some

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<v Speaker 1>things in practice are saying, oh, I like this play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, check check, check, And I need to get

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<v Speaker 1>into a rhythm and then a sync with my quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though they have the relationship, I need us

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<v Speaker 1>to get out there and work. I needed to get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and for Doc to go, hey, listen on

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<v Speaker 1>this one right here. I love to play. Hey, let's

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<v Speaker 1>make this eighteen yards, you know, let's make this eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>yards or hey, look, I know you had Zeke do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey let's try this route. Because that's the back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth conversation that goes on between veteran quarterback and offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator that they can have these discussions and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can go back into the meeting room and sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and go all right, we love these plays. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything that you want to switch, tinker with chance, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it may be. But you don't have that when Dak

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<v Speaker 1>is sitting over on the sideline and you're not having

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<v Speaker 1>him in the practice because he needs to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the driver's seat. I need to. I can stand over

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<v Speaker 1>there and see it happen. But when I'm standing looking

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<v Speaker 1>down the battle of the gun, now I can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of see in the feel how I want things to

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<v Speaker 1>work around me. Now, that's the one I love. The

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<v Speaker 1>analogy about the shooters in the NBA and basketball guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Kobe Bryant, they arrived to the stadium five hours

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<v Speaker 1>before the game to get in rhythm. Dak in contrast

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<v Speaker 1>to that, has been held out of OTAs. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>held out of team going into camp right when the

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<v Speaker 1>pads are put on. He can't participate in live actions.

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<v Speaker 1>So to simulate that, I mean, I know the man

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<v Speaker 1>has a football field at his house, so I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's been throwing. But like you said, when you start

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<v Speaker 1>saying names like Tom Brady, when you start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the upper echelo, the guys that have done it at

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<v Speaker 1>a high level in this league for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>and how they participated in preseason, we can't take him

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<v Speaker 1>out of that because he hadn't reached that level yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you think, for me, it was last

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<v Speaker 1>year versus the Cleveland Browns, when you saw Dak actually

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<v Speaker 1>unveil his arm strength on a throw in the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone to Amari Cooper in between two defenders. Now, that

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<v Speaker 1>showed to me that he's been working working on that

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<v Speaker 1>he did it. Here's the play right here, and his

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<v Speaker 1>ability as a progression as a quarterback. He looks at

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<v Speaker 1>his first read, which is something that he staring down

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<v Speaker 1>receivers in his first couple of years may have been

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. But that right there. Can I just tell

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<v Speaker 1>you from a football guy from the receiver position, that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen on Cleveland Brown Day. That happened in training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Go back, go back and watch the great Troy Atman

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<v Speaker 1>and Michael Irvin. Right this this it's a post ride.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one, two, three, four or five boom right his

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<v Speaker 1>steps when Dad's back when when when when Amari Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>goes in motion and Dad's sees the defense shifts, he

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<v Speaker 1>knows exactly where the ball is going. He knows watch

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<v Speaker 1>him as soon as he hits that back foot one two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>the ball is gone and that window goes quick. He

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<v Speaker 1>knows where he's going with the football. Amari knows where

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<v Speaker 1>he's going with the football, and that type of energy

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<v Speaker 1>that type of of of of knowing, of precision of

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's from practice. Now, that very pass, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>rusty and it's short, that's gone to the house picked off,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be Amari might be going down to Bayless,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott and White for an MRI on his it might

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<v Speaker 1>be picked off. Right, there's some beat that throw right

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<v Speaker 1>there is a throw that you can't make with rust.

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<v Speaker 1>But that shows you when you're in that rhythm, when

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's going on, when you have that rush

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<v Speaker 1>knocked off, when that when you're in sync, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when that type of plays happened, when that window and

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<v Speaker 1>close it, I mean, because it happens quick. And I

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<v Speaker 1>always think about Michael Irvin and Troy Aikman when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at that bang eight post that that was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the players where Mike had to know esp they

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<v Speaker 1>had to Troy when that backfoot hit that ball was

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<v Speaker 1>coming out on a rope. Mike knew it, Troy knew it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he knew how many steps he had before that

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<v Speaker 1>safety got there. He knew how to catch the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew everything. But that comes from the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you do in practice. And when you hold him out

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not getting it Forget the preseason games, right, fine?

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<v Speaker 1>No preseason games. Yeah, you always hear about this great

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<v Speaker 1>quick like Roger Star. He he didn't know, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see Drew there, He just knew Drew would be there. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you need that practice, not a game about practice. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be optimist tech. Let's say the MRI Monday. Okay, he's great,

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<v Speaker 1>good to go Tuesday. He is full go from here

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<v Speaker 1>on out. Not playing in the last two preseason games.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he gets those last few weeks of practice,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel that's enough to shake off the rust

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<v Speaker 1>and make up for these two weeks through and a

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<v Speaker 1>half weeks he'll miss. Heck no, because we opened the

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<v Speaker 1>season on Thursday night in Tampa, and Tampa has an

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<v Speaker 1>ax to grind with the NFL and you know it,

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<v Speaker 1>really we are. We're coming into town like the pig

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<v Speaker 1>with the apple in his mouth, you know, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the world champions. They want to set the NFL on notice.

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<v Speaker 1>They won the Super Bowl, not because of Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>but because of that defense. If you did not know,

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<v Speaker 1>you will find out on Thursday. And I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see Dak in his first live action in that

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to get some reps before that. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not ready for this third preseason game. Would you put

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<v Speaker 1>him out there with the starters for some work in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth one, which is traditionally give up game or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>If you tell me that he is all go, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no restrictions for him at practice. I'm actually okay for

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<v Speaker 1>him not playing any of the preseason games. I can't believe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a preseason guy. I think preseason is necessary. But

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<v Speaker 1>you just made the whole thesis based off of what

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<v Speaker 1>you you just say. My thesis was, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to play in preseason games, I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to go and do everything in practice. Take

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<v Speaker 1>all the reps you have to take, every single rep

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<v Speaker 1>like that has to happen if you're If you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to play in preseason, there can't be any restrictions

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<v Speaker 1>on you at practice. With Danny was saying getting the hit,

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<v Speaker 1>that getting the real pressure, and you know they're coming

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<v Speaker 1>after they're not holding up. My thing is is most

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks don't take a live hit until the game anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>right tom One of a lot of time you hit

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<v Speaker 1>I'm brady in practice if you want to, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>you hit you know none of those guys go to

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<v Speaker 1>preseasons and get hit. None of those guys do. So

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<v Speaker 1>the hitting part, to me, I am so confident in

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<v Speaker 1>that's mental ability. And simply because he's been through a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And the quote that he made it gives me chills

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<v Speaker 1>when I when I hear him say it, when he

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<v Speaker 1>says that adversity opened the door for opportunity, that that

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<v Speaker 1>is so profound to me because when you are faced

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<v Speaker 1>with that type of situation, whether it's be moms, the depression,

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<v Speaker 1>or brother and all that kind of suff and you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to bounce back from that. Oh, if you hit

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<v Speaker 1>me on the football field, it's not really gonna rattle me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've overcome a lot. I've overcome my mom losing

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<v Speaker 1>my mom. I've overcome you know, the stuff that happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me in the draft before the draft. I've overcome

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<v Speaker 1>uh being the number or four guy when I first

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<v Speaker 1>got to Dallas behind Jamil Showers and worked my way up.

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've overcome the contract stuff hanging over my head

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<v Speaker 1>for three or four seasons trying to get paid. I've

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<v Speaker 1>overcome a pandemic, depression, my brother taking his life. I've

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<v Speaker 1>overcome a lot of stuff mentally, that's that's mental toughness.

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<v Speaker 1>So to go out there and have to take a

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<v Speaker 1>hit to me just and I could be wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little that the man has already showed you.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't mentally fragile. He ain't no sucking when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the mental toughness. So having to get hit

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<v Speaker 1>for me with him, I'm thinking, that's that's small that's

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<v Speaker 1>small change. The thing that's not small change is just

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<v Speaker 1>the physical mechanics of you going out there and doing

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<v Speaker 1>what you're supposed to do at the position. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be throwing the football, and this will be

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<v Speaker 1>a past happy offense. I don't care what Bike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>talks about. I want to make a balance. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make this no no, no, no no. You got

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<v Speaker 1>weapons glory. You're gonna let that thing fly. That ball

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be passed around a lot to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different cats. Well, I need the guy. I need

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<v Speaker 1>my time cruise, I need my top Gun. I need him.

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<v Speaker 1>I need him to be on his game because if

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<v Speaker 1>he ain't, then we got a problem. Well you got

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<v Speaker 1>a guy with a big old contract and then you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about top Gun they're gonna be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>there's been some mixed reviews on Coach Mike here and

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people saying that he's hot, authentic, it

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>seems like it's forced, he's out of touch with his

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.200
<v Speaker 1>guys and Jesse, I really wanted to tap into your

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 1>NFL acumen to ask you, because you know, and you've

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 1>been coached by some world class coaches. What gives with that?

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Do all coaches have a mantra or a stickling something

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>that they want to stick on the team. But what

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>did you think about coach Mike Mike's performance? Uh? In

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.719
<v Speaker 1>hard knowledge? Yeah, I watched it. I had no problem

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 1>with it. Um, you have two people on you have

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 1>this this Mike McCarthy fence right, and you have people

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>on both sides like the MCCA Republican right. People like

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to be on their side, and either you

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 1>like coach McCarthy or you hate him. And we all

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 1>know from here on this show, I am a fan

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:33.719
<v Speaker 1>of what's freaky Mike. I called him freaky Mike. That's

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:35.120
<v Speaker 1>what I called him. I called him. I called him

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>freaky Mike. And we we live in this day and

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>time of social media, and everybody wants you to be

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>this thing for the social for the TV whatever. Some

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>dudes are just not built for that and it doesn't help,

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>does not help when and I'm not this is not

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a shot at Jerry Jones, but it doesn't help when

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>your owner is such a great dude in the media,

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 1>because what happens is Jerry Jones sets the tone of

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>what the cowboy persona should be in the media, and

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>then you have the brand what it is in the media,

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:25.199
<v Speaker 1>and then if your coach doesn't match what your owner

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and the brand is calling for, then your fake. You're

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>not authentic. You really can't. We can't feel you. We

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>can't some dudes. And when you look at Mike McCarthy,

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>he's not a new he ain't Kyle shanahan, right, He's

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>not Sean McVay. He's not the new hip you know.

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I promise you. He's not texting emojis TikTok, he's not

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>doing the acronyms. He's not that guy. He's a football

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>dude for PA right. Oh, if you left it up

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to him, all he wants to do. Forget the cameras.

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I just want to coach, that's all I know how

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to do. The like the zoom stuff last year. I

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>remember talking to the rookies last year and he jumped

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>on the call with me before the rookies. I talked

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to the rookies. He hates that zoom stuff. He hates it.

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Now you gotta adapt because it's the new way of things.

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 1>But like he hates that, like he hated coaching from

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 1>a zoom because that's not that's not where he comes from.

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>And so to me, he it was it was all

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>good to me, man, And I don't care what you

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>sound like or whatever. Can it relate on the football field,

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>That's what That's what we should be judging him on,

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 1>not what he looks like, not what he sounds like

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>in front of the camera. The xes and those the ws,

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the ls, that's what his grade should be on. Danny,

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>did he seem relatable to you? I think he seemed

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>like himself. I guess it's hard for me to be like, oh,

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 1>like he's relatable, Like I am not in that setting whatsoever,

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and like to be honest, like because we haven't really

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of time as media members to interact

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>with him in person, like I don't feel like I

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>know him like well enough to I guess decide that.

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't have a problem with his quote unquote performance.

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was himself and going off Jesse's point,

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>like in the opening pressor in Oxnard, like someone asked

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>him what his initial reaction was when Jerry Jones told

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>him that Hard Knocks was going to be out of

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:28.479
<v Speaker 1>camp and he's like, well, I almost drove my car

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>off the road, and like, like, I agree, I don't

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>think this is where he feels most comfortable or most natural.

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure that there's still a wall, you know,

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>having his guard up with all these cameras. And I'm

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>sure the more episodes we see, like we'll see him

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of loosen up. But that's also not his concern.

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>He's not trying to be the star or be goofy

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>or have a personality or have you know, a gift

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>or something go viral from it. Like, he's just trying

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to focus on football. And again, it doesn't matter if

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you thought the mojo stuff was cheesy or what you think,

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>like if it works for the player who cares like

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick is not the most relatable dude, Like who

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>relates to Bill Belichick? Honestly? Like super Bowl? Who who

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>like when he gets in front of the camera, who

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>relates to b Belicheck? And the thing that I think

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people fans and and there is an

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>adjustment that has to be made when you become the

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>coach of this football team. It is unlike any other

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>football team that you I don't care if it's the Patriots,

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if it's the Bucks, I don't care

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>who it is. The level of media attention that this

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>particular team gets, it's greater than any other football team

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League. And it takes a level

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>of adjustment when you spent ten twelve years in Green

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Bay where we ain't really checking for green Bay like

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that on the four letter network. That ain't that? Ain't

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>it in an a block? Right? The media is not

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>crowding around lambou Field and interview right their owners in

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>green Bay, the community of owners didn't have radio shows

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>in Prescott. There is an adjustment when you have to

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>become the head coach of this football team. But I

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people again we are we're on

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>touch of high pedestal. Everyone gets a chance to take

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a shot because tell me, who do you re like

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>to Sean Payton? Do you like de Sean? Do you

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>really to Bill Belichick? Andy Reid, like we don't we

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>don't hear about this about with anyone else. Yeah, there

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>he was in a no win situation. Somebody's gonna, you know,

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody out there not gonna think, you know, I'm gonna

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.719
<v Speaker 1>think he's an idiot or not relating to the players

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But I think he's fine with the I mean,

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>like he said, he's a coach. He doesn't want to

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>get up there in grandst the cameras and all that,

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and Danny, I really subscribed to your theory. Who cares

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>what everybody else thinks? Because if the if the team

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>is out there and then the red zone and Gostea

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>hauling out Mojo, then it works. He's gotten this message

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>through to his team. When I talk about relatable, I'm

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>thinking about other hard before from Sean McVay and all

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the other guys that have been on it. They didn't

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>get the blaring criticism that you see Mike McCarthy have.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And you're right, you're gonna be polarized because of that.

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna it's gonna happen regardless. But I think just

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>from seeing Mike McCarthy and just I watched something and

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I woke up the next day and everyone had something

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>negative to say about something that I thought was a

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>good thing. I actually got an opportunity to see his

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>temperament and you're right when you're you have the tem

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>temperament that Mike does. But also with the just a

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>persona of Jerry Jones, how do you how do you

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>match that? Andy? When you had a live camera microphones

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>in on that, it looks like maybe there's there, well,

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>there isn't a power struggle. But when he's asking Jerry

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>questions about our Steven questions about how many reps do

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I give Zeke, the perception starts to fly that do

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.479
<v Speaker 1>you control this? Are you the head coach or what

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>are you? And so so many negative things have come

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>down through that. I mean, do you see that as

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>something that may be a negative on him? Again, when

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you're the head coach of this football team, you are

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times in a no win situation. Everybody

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>has an opinion with everybody now has Twitter and Instagram

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and TikTok to voice their opinion and they can go

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>on Twitch and all these different things. And so for me,

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't because at the end of the day, I

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>can promise you this, I don't care who the head

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>coach is unless that head coach is the gem as well.

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>When it comes down to this fifteen million running back,

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>when it comes down to the forty million dollars quarterback,

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>When it comes down to any the ninety million dollar

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>defensive end, anything that has a significant cost, you consult

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the people above you. When it comes down to Jesse Holley,

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you do whatever the hell you want to me. I'm cheap.

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Nobody consults about nobody about Jesse. Jesse. Somebody consult about you.

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I got cut. Coaches didn't even know. I was called

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to say thank you. They say, what happened? I just

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>got cut. It's like, wait, what, I didn't even know?

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>They didn't consult that. When when you deal with Zeke,

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>when you deal with Dak, when you deal with Tank,

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>when you deal with anybody who has a significant role,

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>i e. The checks are a little bit fatter, you consult. Again,

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you just most teams, most teams. The Rooneys aren't down

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>on the sideline of practice. Earth says, not down on

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the You don't know who the owners and GM's are.

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>It just so happens for this football team. You know

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>exactly who the owner is. He is very visible, he's

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>hands on, and so these type of interactions happened. And

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't help that the cameras are there. You know,

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the owners gonna be there when you Old Jerry is

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be there when the cameras are there. He

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>ain't missing a moment to sell the brand. It doesn't

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>happen anywhere else but in Dallas for the Cowboys. So

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>when he says, hey, I think about Donna Na you

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 1>damn right, because ze sixteen million dollars a year. Let's

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.359
<v Speaker 1>see you better, you better ask that question that Hey, hey, hey,

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>hey Jerry, listen, da shouldn't it You're damn right. I

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 1>just gave him a bazillion dollars. You're gonna check. You're

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>going to check with the dude. What did you think about? Um?

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Loot of the eye rolls? And criticism came with the

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>mojo moment thing and the Austin Austin powers thing. But

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>as a player, what did you think? I mean to me,

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that creates although it's off the wall, maybe

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>it creates competition, It creates something different kind of laughs,

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I get like, who cares if it? If it works,

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 1>and you know that's his way to, you know, let

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>them know, Hey, this this is what we're working on

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>a practice. This is your mojo moment, Like if that's

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>if that's the thing that works for him and for

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>this team. Then like, who am I to judge? Why

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 1>do I care? Like every coach has a bit, nobody

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>can judge that if we were, if we were to

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 1>see the behind the scenes, I feel like of what

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>some of these coaches like, how creative and like while

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the videos they create to make a point are like

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 1>people would not be so concerned with an Austin Powers club.

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is is that a lot of people

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>who are saying these things never been in a training camp.

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not throwing the other play football. You didn't think,

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>but you don't understand how draining on any level day out.

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm away from my family, I'm stuck in these hotels

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>practices ten hours a day. So coaches try to find

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>any little thing that can just take the juices up

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>another level, even if it's for a moment in time.

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>You've heard We've heard Nate say, We've heard Michael Lurvin saying,

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>coach Jimmy Dalha tell Michael Irvin start a fight today.

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>The energy's down, like start some ish today. Now, that

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>might not be the mojo that you're looking for the

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Austin Powers, but because the dog days of training camp

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>gets on you. You have to find those things that,

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>even if it's for a moment, you can hope changes

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the momentum of a practice. And whether that's Michael Ever

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>going out there starting to fight with Darren what's in

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>forty yards down the field and get guys riled up

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>and now you're like, or that's des Brian saying you

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>can't guard me, you can't guard me. It's those things

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>in practice that take it to the next level. We're

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>like talking to me, let's go, and now everybody's height.

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>That's when you get a pretty damn good practice. So

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>when you have these mojo things, all coaches have them.

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 1>They trying to find ways to up the energy and

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>practice because you can tell when you're sit in that

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>meeting room and you look at that dude, like do

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you look at your players faces and they're like, but

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I ain't been home in twenty days. You know, I

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>told you them camp, I's getting real ladies in the house.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I won't go there, but I'm just you have to

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>find ways to get the morale of your players up.

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Competition does that. There's no other greater thing that gets

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the blood flow to real dogs to ain't talking about

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 1>the leash puppies. I'm talking about real dogs. Then when

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 1>you get a chance to go out there and and

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and Mono, we Mono compete. Well, speaking of real dogs,

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I think we got a real dog on the phone.

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 1>We got a real lack cat. We got a real

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>dog on the phone. And it never gets old to

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>speak to the great Nate new three times Super Bowl champ, Nate,

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, man? I'm doing all right, Jesse. I

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>love you too. What's up, my favorite lap cat? I

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:43.439
<v Speaker 1>love your back brother. Well, y'all have some great discussions, man,

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>some great discussions man on on this situation man, of

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>competition and guys being ready to play, and how the

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>you know how the media is attacking coach. You know

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>how he's trying to run his team. Man, It's just

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>amazing how national media gets out there. But I'm in

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and Nate, you've been coached by some of the well

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the great Hall of Fame coach Jimmy Johnson, and your

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>experience with him, Dude, this is pretty much in line

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>with most great coaches. They have monstrous things that they

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 1>live by, culture that they're trying to instill to their team. Yeah,

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Jimmy was a master. We had some games where

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't even say nothing. He was just like, hey,

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>let's go. He have games where he would say a

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>lot depending on how practices went that week, how things

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.320
<v Speaker 1>have been for when he was putting things in place,

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>he didn't say much of nothing. He just told what

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>was expected. He allowed his coaches to set the temple

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>in the pace, and if things it wasn't going the

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>way he thought they should go, he a lot of

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>times he would call him meeting. He will stop practicing,

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>talk to his coaches and tell him the tempo is

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 1>not right, or what are y'all doing? Are y'all not prepared?

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Because my players are gonna take y'all lead. But each

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>coach is told different. Seaference was totally different than what

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy was. I was a player run team. I was

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>talking to Bucky Brooks. The Bills were totally different than

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody because they were a player round team. And so

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times you do have to depend on

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the competition that's there, like Jesse said, but a lot

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>of times it's about the temple that your coach said

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and the things that he's trying to put in place

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to get guys going. And coach McCarthy was on a

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of strain last year coming into a new organization

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>where things are ran different hands on the owner that

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>he had to deal with and matriculate through. So but

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>now he's got things in place if he want to

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>mo joe moment and these guys respond to it, which

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>they have in practice when that comes on, they have

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>responded to it defensively, offensively, you know, and so let

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>this give Let's give this man opportunity man And a

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of times that's why I don't listen to the

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>national media on a lot of things that we can

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>see and have insight on ourselves as local as local personalities.

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Hey Ny, when you started, Landry was here and he

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>was always seen as such a reserved coach, at least

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines. Did he have this kind of motivation

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and the same type of things going on in practice?

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Coach coach Landry was so well established by the time

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:21.959
<v Speaker 1>I got the occurred to he just gave it a look.

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>He had different looks. He didn't say much if he

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>if you know, he didn't say much. I mean his

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 1>coaches coached. He had different looks. He knew everything was

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 1>going on. You talking about hands on man, this he

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>ran out. He was the offensive coordinator, He was a

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>divasive coordinator, and he was halfway at the special team's coordinator.

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Not nothing moved without his say soul and his authority

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and his bird's eye view. I mean, he was hands

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 1>on and so. But he didn't give a lot of speeches.

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>He believed that if you prepare the right way in

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>practice during the week, and you have the right guys

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>as well the great coaches have. It's the right guys

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>at the right places making the right plays, then you

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the mojo moments gonna come and they're gonna be handled

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 1>with authority. And coach Andrew was the ultimate leader man.

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't gonna say much, but he always knew what

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>was going on, and he had his hands on every situation,

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>even things where guys had rucords that was coming out. Hey,

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:22.879
<v Speaker 1>this guy got a chance to He wouldn't say nothing

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole week. But if he see where you needed

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 1>a pass or something like that, he wouldn't say nothing.

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>He'll try to get you that pass. If he saw

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>where he was a yard away from something, he wouldn't

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>say nothing. He was always aware and so he had

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.399
<v Speaker 1>his hands on everything. Nate, you talked about how you've

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 1>seen these mojo moments elevate the players on offense and defense.

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious how you've seen them affect the coaching

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 1>staff themselves and how they've been elevated by this this

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:55.720
<v Speaker 1>bit as well. These guys never stopped moving in practice.

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>These guys always got situation. It's always a different situation

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>than a new situation that's coming up in this and

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 1>and these guys are so focused on making sure these

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>situations and these things are handling in the correct way

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to Uh, you don't have to worry about much. Uh.

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>They just hype, man. They like most coaches are, whereas

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>your coach maybe just standing there or sitting there or

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>not doing anything. Uh, these coaches are moving. Coach Adams

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 1>are wide receiver coach, Coach Fillman with his guys off

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 1>his line, coach coach George Edwards, his guys with the linebackers.

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>They're doing their things, man, And they're living in these moments,

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're they're holding out formations, they are holding out

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>what to look for, trying to get these players to

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 1>start communicating and talking to one another and being excited

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:48.240
<v Speaker 1>about this team that's called football that we get paid

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>for to do a child's game. We got the great

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 1>three times Super Bowl champion Nate Newton, and God knows

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>where he's at, but we always appreciate it. I'm in

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>front of a I'm in from a L Chicos or

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>suff or L Chicos, or my friends are eating while

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>my truck is getting fixed. But we always think, you

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>mojo my truck, Jess. But it's okay. We always appreciate

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the maximum effort that Nate is gonna give us. He's

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna give us his insight, whether he had the car

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:24.320
<v Speaker 1>dealership El Chicos, el diablows what I was in Mexico

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.919
<v Speaker 1>just two days ago. I was in Mexico two days ago.

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Were he there from more than traffic? Man? Were there

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>from from three o'clock? Yeah, I got at four o'clock.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I pulled up in line and I got through at

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>eight thirty. But it was beautiful. The people was out there,

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the Hispanic UH nation was out there UH selling their things.

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I gave out a few extra dollars.

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I thought about Jesse on the porch, So I gave

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to the people stuff, you know, because I felt so

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>bad for jests like I'm gonna give some money to

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>the folks. Man, Now, whatever you want to fit you

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>want to make you feel, keep the money and give

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it to me if you want to make me feel

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:09.760
<v Speaker 1>real good to me. But Nate Man on a serious

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>On a serious note, I lost. We got Dak in

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a in an interview the other day, talked about the

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 1>MRI that he'll be receiving on Monday. Just tell me

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 1>where you're at with Dak, his lack of practice, and

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>better question is, what does Dak need to do to

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>make you feel confident and comfortable that he's ready to

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 1>go Thursday night to open up the season? Practice? Practice.

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't need your playing in games. I need for

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you to practice. And and don't don't lead us Cowboy

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Nation because y'all know I'm one hundred percent through and

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 1>through cowboy fan. Don't continue to weekend and week out

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>if there's something wrong, share with the Cowboy Nation so

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 1>we can know that we got to get somebody that

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 1>can really compete against Gilbert. Share it with us, don't

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.359
<v Speaker 1>don't let the season run up on us and all

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, well he's still on the pitch count

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>now it ain't no more pitch counts. We need for

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 1>things to be open and ready and to go when

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the season open. Practice, practice, practice, I don't care number

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>what that kid said when he played for basketball. I'm

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about football practice, essential, essential. I'm serious, y'all know

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not lying. But what we're talking talking about, we're

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>talking about practice with no limitations. Right Like he needs

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 1>all those first team reps. He has to be able

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>to throw in all those periods. He can't be like

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>you said, on a pitch count, he can't be you know,

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:43.280
<v Speaker 1>missing the throne periods or mission you know, different things,

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 1>but you know, practice with unabated go out there and

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>go full go every single day. Thank you, I thank you.

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>And quicker he does that, the better off our receivers

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be, the better off our team gonna be.

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>And if not, if something is wrong, we we will

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 1>know and now we will know how to address that,

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.839
<v Speaker 1>and they know how to address it. But we as

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 1>reporters and we as fans don't know what's going on.

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Because as long as you go saying, oh it's this

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.240
<v Speaker 1>is that now we're getting another MRI, it's like okay,

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>once again the Cowboys have not told us the truth

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>once again the Cowboys and left me jest in the

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:25.359
<v Speaker 1>nation on the porch the Great Nate from Ports Unknown. Nate,

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming joining the show and

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 1>always bringing a lighter move to everything we got going

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 1>on here. Man. We will see you back in the

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>studio next week, Man, Monday Man, and you know I

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>should do a show with you guys, uh live and

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and taching the color baby before this overwhere. So we're

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna have let the Monday Show. Y'all need to come

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:48.879
<v Speaker 1>work with the best you've seen the rest that man.

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:55.320
<v Speaker 1>All right, Nate Man gona be good. Always a pleasure

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 1>to have Nate on it. What we're gonna do, We're

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna take our last break and we'll be back for

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:02.600
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<v Speaker 1>final segment on hanging with the boys. So I'm gonna

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:39.399
<v Speaker 1>make the most up. Maybe I'm gonna make the most

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you No, no, I'm like you, man, when you know

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 1>they don't consult at all. And here with my Here

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.439
<v Speaker 1>with the Gang, Kurt Daniels and what the heck vote

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Danny's erect and political career. Yeah, it was, it was.

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 1>What wasn't short lived, it was for a while. Just

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>saying in the break we're talking about for everyone listening,

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I've been having middle school flashbacks, which you can imagine

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>how terrible that is for the last couple of weeks,

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>because hearing what the heck over and over again reminded

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>me that in middle school, my older sister and I

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 1>both use the same slogan when running for student counsel,

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and the slogan was what the heck votes I rack.

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>But it worked because we both made it. But it's

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:22.920
<v Speaker 1>just like, I keep hearing what the heck and it's like,

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, look, Danny, if there's a heck involved,

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:30.880
<v Speaker 1>it's good. Don't even worry about it's it's a good thing, Danny.

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:33.759
<v Speaker 1>But guys, I said my teas before the break that

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 1>we were gonna put it on our general manager hats

0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, and I'm gonna hold you guys's feet to

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the fire because there's not gonna be any middle of

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the road stuff here right now, because Stephen Jones and

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Will McClay have a really tough job at it's pretty

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 1>much getting this roster filed down. You got a lot

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 1>of players. There might be a few players that may

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>not go through waivers that people are waiting to cherry

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:05.919
<v Speaker 1>pick off of your roster. So I ask, and ask,

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Kurt Daniels is looking through the roster with no one

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 1>did their homework. Here in the room, I'm looking at

0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 1>blank faces aside from Jesse. So I'll Jesse, I'll start

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.800
<v Speaker 1>with you. Okay, don't tell me I didn't do my homework.

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:26.880
<v Speaker 1>We love Spicy with the boy. We can get excuse

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:31.759
<v Speaker 1>him whatever, we can get Flasco, what the little red

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:38.759
<v Speaker 1>We want the boys? That is so Kurt, But your

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>general manager had on And the reason I started thinking

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.799
<v Speaker 1>about this is because the last episode I said something

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 1>about core players, and you questioned me about the players

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that I thought were in the core group. So I

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:52.440
<v Speaker 1>said wait a minute, this this question is is uh,

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:55.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a big question. I'm sure Kurt Daniels has

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>a few names. Are a name that he liked to

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 1>put on that list, Daniels, Let's go Spice. I don't

0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:06.319
<v Speaker 1>know if I'm ready to cut him because I haven't

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 1>seen him enough play enough or whatever. But one guy

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he's now on the bubble where going

0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 1>into camp he thought he was pretty safe. Would it

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 1>be Cedric Wilson. Brown's having a good camp and they're saying, uh,

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the other league turner League Turner saying he's having a

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:25.839
<v Speaker 1>good camp. Um, Cedric also makes more than these guys.

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 1>There's no cap it if he gets cut. I mean, Jesse,

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:38.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy just what you get wan? He did well? Sorry,

0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean that. You in spicy. Is no apologize

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.239
<v Speaker 1>when you locked in the spicy. But I you know,

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.799
<v Speaker 1>is this a guy that should be looking over his shoulder? Now?

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you have a little concern he's going to be

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 1>on this team? Sedric? All right, I don't like that

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 1>these are going and riding by the way, come on there,

0:52:57.760 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be forever. I'll admit I did not

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 1>to my homework, so I'm looking. Okay, yes you will, Jess.

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:08.239
<v Speaker 1>So from WHOA you called me? My mom calls me Jess, Jesse,

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, it's fine, said, I felt like

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you were my parents. Like, um, that just I'm like,

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 1>what the heck? Voters are right, you just do a

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 1>mom son moment um. The biggest thing for me is

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:26.799
<v Speaker 1>when you start looking at numbers. Okay, and there's always

0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and I said this before receiver, offensive linemen dbs. The

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 1>place that we have to start looking for numbers is safety. Yeah,

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 1>we have to start looking at I would not be shocked.

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 1>This is if they keep seven receivers, would not be shocked.

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I would not be shocked one bit if they kept

0:53:56.280 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 1>seven receivers, would not be shocked. If they only kept

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 1>two tight ends, hopefully passing. You brought in sprinkles in

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:11.399
<v Speaker 1>the off season as a free agent signee. McKinnon might go, hum, well,

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, maybe we can try to stash them on

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the practice squad. You know, get him. This is, but

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:23.399
<v Speaker 1>look at the safety position because it's going to heck,

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:29.759
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to let good defensive backs go. And you're

0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about a football team who historically has not given

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:38.640
<v Speaker 1>much value to the safety position. We all, oh my god,

0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yes, so all of a sudden, they're

0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 1>not gonna start like, you know, have this kind of

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:46.399
<v Speaker 1>one eight turn. And now I'm saying that they're holding

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:50.800
<v Speaker 1>all these safeties because that dB position is so critical.

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>And when you start looking at matchups, when you start

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 1>looking who you have to play throughout the year, what

0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:59.879
<v Speaker 1>does your division look like? What is your path through

0:54:59.880 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to hope

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and pray that I get a guy like Malie Hooker

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to come along and actually play to that high draft

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 1>pick billing that he before, you know, pre injury, and

0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 1>then I have to start finding other pieces to kind

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>of go with him. Maybe it's a because he maybe

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 1>it's someone else, but I just can't see me letting dbs.

0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Just say what you want about Anthony Brown, He's a

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:28.840
<v Speaker 1>serviceable dB seventeen game season. Say what you want about

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis service a bow d like boss Man. Fact

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>might not start this year, you know what I'm saying,

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a second round draft pick. Boss Man might

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>not start this year. That says a lot about what

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you have going on. And you know, you're gonna have

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.720
<v Speaker 1>digs on one side and then now is it Anthony

0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Brown the other side? Is it? Is it? Is it?

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Boss Man? Is it whoever? Who's gonna play in the slot? Again?

0:55:56.000 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Those type you need the numbers in the room, injury purposes,

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:05.520
<v Speaker 1>personnel reasons you need. So I see other positions maybe

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 1>taking a hit, tight end only carrying two. Um, you're

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to eventually do something with this offensive line

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:15.759
<v Speaker 1>of depth. They're not we don't have good depth there.

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, what nobody says? We ain't got good depth there?

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>So offensively I can I can see them trying to

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 1>keep seven Simmy, for Hoku might be on his way out.

0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 1>They might not be able to keep him. So there's

0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. It might not work. It's a

0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 1>good problem to have. It's a problem, nonetheless, But for me,

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 1>look at that safety position tight end position as a

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:45.920
<v Speaker 1>position that may see shorter numbers, smaller numbers than you

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 1>normally would to keep other numbers at a surplus. So Jesse,

0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you should go to law school and have ESQ at

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the end of your name, because you still haven't answered

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a question. What's your question? Who's the guy that we're

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:01.640
<v Speaker 1>who's the player. You give me a name, I'm like

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you just come on, you want one name. I want names.

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:07.120
<v Speaker 1>If you want to just one name or names or

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:11.279
<v Speaker 1>give me something. I'm seeing guys like Simmy May you

0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>may see cut. I'm seeing guys like you know, Sprinkle, Uh,

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you may see uh, let go um, Arian Thompson, maybe

0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Darren Thompson. You may see guys like that, let go um. Yeah.

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:26.440
<v Speaker 1>So just to give you a couple of names, you

0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 1>might you may see guys like that. Be let go

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 1>for because you might say Cedric Wilson, but he's a

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 1>veteran guy who plays special teams, does other stuff like that.

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 1>And again, Simmy has done nothing in training camp that

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 1>has impressed us besides being big. That's it. Hadn't made

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>no plays. We don't really hear about him on special teams.

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And when you're going into this year, Bones Foster is

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, if I have to choose a guy, I'm

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna take the guy who I got a little bit

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 1>more experienced with than than the rookie. Maybe we can

0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>pass them through. So I'm saying those names, Danny, just

0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 1>because we haven't talked about this position group yet. I'm

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the linebackers, and just because he was

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:10.800
<v Speaker 1>drafted with the different coaching staff, he's been her we

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:12.360
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen a lot of him. I don't know that

0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Luke Gifford has a long future here. Luke I liked him,

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:20.840
<v Speaker 1>he just hasn't had the experience. He hasn't right like

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 1>if they liked jibro Cox Moore, I just I don't.

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 1>He might, he might get the act and my lawyer bag,

0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you're there, Um, Football's fluid. Things change, injuries happen. Don't

0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:39.960
<v Speaker 1>hold us to this. Come on, don't come tweet me

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>later on. I said, well, you shop on August whatever,

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 1>So I know you're writing down, yes, but football is

0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:50.080
<v Speaker 1>very fluid and it changes often day to day, by

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the way, So I'm just saying, when you write these

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.040
<v Speaker 1>names down, don't hold me to that. Come on, I

0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 1>know I gave you the names. Oh, I'm just going

0:58:57.280 --> 0:59:00.440
<v Speaker 1>to go out. I gonna joke into something else, my

0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:03.760
<v Speaker 1>lawyer back defendant, No, no, no, I I guys have me.

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I was all ears right, there were from me stole

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and the one name that I came up with, and

0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I think there's so much being asked of him is

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:17.760
<v Speaker 1>tied and Secki that swing tackle position it thirty six

0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:20.720
<v Speaker 1>years old, hadn't had the greatest camp from what I'm

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:24.120
<v Speaker 1>hearing um, And we know how badly we need a

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 1>swing tackle and I think we've all talked about it.

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:30.160
<v Speaker 1>That person may not be on our roster right now.

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>We're get scouring the earth and cherry picking off of

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 1>other rosters as well for that swing tackle position. So

0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Tied and Secki would be the person that I'm practiced yesterday,

0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:44.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't he So again things snowballing in that direction. I'm

0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 1>just saying, there's a players that we may want to watch,

0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 1>but guys getting to the game that's gonna be tomorrow. Uh.

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys taking on the Arizona Cardinals. Obviously for us

0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:56.160
<v Speaker 1>in the second preseason game, we didn't want to make

0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:58.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the first preseason game. Jesse was like,

0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:00.320
<v Speaker 1>hey man, let's not have a lot of expectation there.

1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:04.360
<v Speaker 1>But now going to the second preseason game, Jesse players

1:00:04.440 --> 1:00:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to watch matchups, things to expect. The guy who wanted

1:00:08.280 --> 1:00:11.960
<v Speaker 1>more reps. And then in the Hall of Fame game,

1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons, we want to see more of him. I

1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:19.160
<v Speaker 1>want to see I want to see uh that knowledge.

1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:22.720
<v Speaker 1>There was something that was said on hard knocks and

1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:25.160
<v Speaker 1>it might have just went patched people's head, but it

1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:28.920
<v Speaker 1>caught my ear and it rang loud to me. Michael

1:00:28.960 --> 1:00:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Parsons come to the sideline and he's like, man, I

1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:33.360
<v Speaker 1>just want to make plays, right, And he's like, I'm

1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:35.440
<v Speaker 1>all over the place, and Laton Vandera says, yeah, you

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:39.800
<v Speaker 1>want to make every play. That's not a great thing

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:44.360
<v Speaker 1>because what happens is that that eagerness get you out

1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:48.080
<v Speaker 1>of position. And it was kind of like Lata was like, listening, homie,

1:00:49.600 --> 1:00:51.919
<v Speaker 1>we want you to make plays, but when you start,

1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:54.040
<v Speaker 1>when you sometimes you got to go on the block

1:00:54.080 --> 1:00:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and let me make the play. Yeah, and you've done

1:00:56.880 --> 1:01:01.240
<v Speaker 1>your job. Don't let the rookie eager and emotions because

1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you needn't play football in eighteen months had you jumping gaps,

1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:07.600
<v Speaker 1>because what's gonna end up happening is the eye this

1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:09.479
<v Speaker 1>God will be like, oh, look at this little, happy

1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:11.440
<v Speaker 1>feeling young lion back with all the speed we got

1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:14.720
<v Speaker 1>young lyon and you gonna think it's going this way

1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and next thing you know you when you turn around,

1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:18.400
<v Speaker 1>that guard going to be coming back around him. Why

1:01:18.960 --> 1:01:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and the bogging before the yards down the field that

1:01:21.240 --> 1:01:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it rang so loud to me because Layton said it

1:01:23.440 --> 1:01:27.000
<v Speaker 1>was like I remember that. I remember when I was

1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that young, wanted to run around, and I was just like, man,

1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I hope people caught that nugget. Because while we're saying

1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:35.960
<v Speaker 1>he has speed, he had this and this and this.

1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Understand that this league watches everything and if they see

1:01:40.960 --> 1:01:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you start doing some stuff, they're like, oh, like like

1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:46.200
<v Speaker 1>tempo will go back and listen. Then oh god, no,

1:01:46.320 --> 1:01:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, you know Tom Brady's watching that. You

1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:51.880
<v Speaker 1>know he's watching that, and it doesn't take much. It

1:01:52.040 --> 1:01:57.160
<v Speaker 1>takes one step out of your lane. It takes one

1:01:57.720 --> 1:02:03.400
<v Speaker 1>moment of hesitate and you're blocked and the ball's gone

1:02:03.960 --> 1:02:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's a crease like that is the fine night.

1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And so when I heard, I was like, oh, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>look at Hayton given, what's you call it? Sage? Sage advice?

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<v Speaker 1>That right, I hope people caught that. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>watch a guy like Michael Parsons, who's just the young lion,

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<v Speaker 1>he's symbol, He's just like I want to I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the dark place that my dad told

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<v Speaker 1>me not to go to. Because I'm ready, r don't

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<v Speaker 1>get yourself. We got a lion king reference on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>get Yourself out of position. Yeah, so I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see more of that. I want to see more of

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<v Speaker 1>the evolution there. And then of course low hanging fruit.

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<v Speaker 1>What does these quarterbacks gold? You're back to stealing things

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<v Speaker 1>from people? Yea, there is so so Danny's just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to expound on that. So're you just going to say quarterbacks, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see a little bit more of what we have

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<v Speaker 1>in Gilbert. Now that we've got one preseason game down,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll have a little um more consistency and some

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<v Speaker 1>better you know how up with the offensive line there,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's see are the Cowboys looking for a third

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback or are they looking for a number two? Let

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's gauge more of Garrett Gilbert this game

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<v Speaker 1>and really see where the Cowboys are in that stance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple different ones. One the offensive line and

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<v Speaker 1>two the cornerbacks. I'd like to see you know those

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<v Speaker 1>written the Sean Wright. Can he build off what he

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<v Speaker 1>did last game? It's you know, I'd love it if Connor,

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<v Speaker 1>Murray and Hopkins were playing they doubt they will. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it'd be nice to get a little test there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, can can those guys keep building? And

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously the as you just mentioned with Naseki, the

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<v Speaker 1>swing tackle position is very much up in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>so kind of kind of see what any progress has

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<v Speaker 1>made there. Let's go brandonite, Terrence Steele, show us what

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, right, Yeah, well out of Connor on a song,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you say about his name? Give me he

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<v Speaker 1>wants his cake? That was hilarious, by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to taste the cake. So we're gonna get We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna get a large sample of Colt McCoy

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<v Speaker 1>instead of probably Kyler Murray. But the player that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching on defense is going to be Watkins. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we I think a lot of people are overlooking

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<v Speaker 1>his maybe his potential impact on this team. Collins Watkins

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<v Speaker 1>from Clemson, from the university from excuse me, from Houston, Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a player that's making some impact and

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<v Speaker 1>you see him every time with the ones going. So

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see what Watkins does. But again, it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to what you were saying about the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>Leo Collins is another guy that I want to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see him with more reps. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that his injury last year was a lot more devastating

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<v Speaker 1>than people lead on to at the right tackle spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe that, you know, getting him more work

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<v Speaker 1>from being out all season, I think is imperative for

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<v Speaker 1>this team and to build his confidence in having that

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<v Speaker 1>laboring surgery on his hip. But guys, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be our show. I want to make sure that I

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<v Speaker 1>say this first, and I gotta say this that this

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<v Speaker 1>is been absolutely phenomenal and awesome to be hosting with

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. On Hanging with the Boys. I turned talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Kyle, you know, seeing scoot him off to the man,

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<v Speaker 1>let me don't even start that on our show. We

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<v Speaker 1>got enough. Look, hey, Kyle, Yeoman's is the golden calf,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So don't even don't even get me sorry

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But you guys, it's been awesome, man. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after this show, I know all the podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna go back and we're gonna be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bucking heads again, all right, with all the competition that

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<v Speaker 1>we have. But guys, this has been absolutely amazing. It

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<v Speaker 1>was fun it's getting work with you because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get to work with y'all like all that often normally

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<v Speaker 1>during like the regular season. No, I enjoyed it. You

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<v Speaker 1>were great man, man. I think I appreciate the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you and we'll talk about this before the show

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<v Speaker 1>your energy and and and you talk about relatability. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>There are tons of people who might want to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to Ben and Jesse holly seat

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<v Speaker 1>the boone was played. There are hunt of people who

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<v Speaker 1>want to be in your seat. But it's the only

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<v Speaker 1>one road road. I always have to be mindful. We

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<v Speaker 1>have the lady in what to say, how to say

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<v Speaker 1>certain things. I told you I can't go to the

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<v Speaker 1>principal's office to October. But now you've been phenomenal. Danny,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for sitting in. You smell much better than

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah stand back, and we appreciate that. Here and hanging

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<v Speaker 1>with the boys, that's dude. You guys are too much

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<v Speaker 1>for Jesse, for Danny and for Kurt Daniels Cowboys Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope your team wins. This has been a production

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<v Speaker 1>of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.