WEBVTT - Clayton Sets the Record Straight 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. It's good to be

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<v Speaker 1>back with you. I know this week is a little

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<v Speaker 1>off because obviously we did not have an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor last night, so we have no recap, which

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<v Speaker 1>is totally fine because we still have a great episode

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<v Speaker 1>coming up for you today. Yes, I definitely missed The

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor this week, but I am so excited for today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode because Bachelor Nation, we have heard you when you

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<v Speaker 1>have said who is Clayton? We know nothing about him?

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<v Speaker 1>So guess what. The Bachelor himself is here today and

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<v Speaker 1>we cannot wait for you to all get to know

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<v Speaker 1>him a little bit better. Yes, the time has finally

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<v Speaker 1>come for us to give all of you people what

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<v Speaker 1>you want. Not only do we have his season to

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<v Speaker 1>talk with him about, but we also, if you don't remember,

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<v Speaker 1>never had him on during Michelle's season, So we have

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<v Speaker 1>a full recap with Clayton himself. We'll get into Michelle's season,

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<v Speaker 1>his time on her season, we'll get into his season.

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<v Speaker 1>But also there's just so much for him, so much

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<v Speaker 1>more for us to know about him as listeners. So

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<v Speaker 1>today we have a full episode. We'll get into all

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<v Speaker 1>of the tea, we'll get to know Clayton for who

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<v Speaker 1>he really is, what he thinks about this crazy world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just have to say, let's just get into it. Serena, Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so ready. Let's bring on the Bachelor. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want all of our listeners to know the real Clayton.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why we're having you here on Bachelor Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Hour today is to get to know you. Because we've

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<v Speaker 1>had so many people out there be like, who's Clayton?

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<v Speaker 1>We know nothing about him? While ladies and gents, today

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<v Speaker 1>is the day we now know that Clayton eats about

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand pounds in chipole a week. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>Chipotle card well on the way. I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with you when that finally comes. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the Chipotle order like the person that works there and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking your order, Like hi, Clayton, Like what can

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<v Speaker 1>I get you today? I got this down like to

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<v Speaker 1>a science. I would like two bulls ago with two

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<v Speaker 1>tour tias on the side. I went to salad dressings.

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<v Speaker 1>Both bulls will be the same. I get white rice

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<v Speaker 1>extra right rice, white rice, extra fahita, veggies, no beans,

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<v Speaker 1>half chicken, half steak, pico de gaio, corn, guac, lettuce,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it. Yeah, the extra fahita veggis that is

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<v Speaker 1>that is a move. That's a pro move. Clean. How

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<v Speaker 1>long have you been ordering this same thing from Chipotle?

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<v Speaker 1>Leave this in the podcast? Leave this in here? Ever

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<v Speaker 1>since I stopped, or ever since I graduated college. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's been I'm on six years now. The second I

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<v Speaker 1>want to no, no, Okay, So if you you obviously

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<v Speaker 1>are no longer in the NFL, you ordered two of

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<v Speaker 1>these bowls? How many times a week would you say? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably probably once a week, maybe sometimes twice if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling I treat myself a little bit. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>you eat this much right now, how much were you

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<v Speaker 1>eating when you played football? I would easily put down

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<v Speaker 1>two bowls when I was playing football one meal, like

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<v Speaker 1>in one sitting. Yes, it was like people like people

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<v Speaker 1>would watch me fin every I wouldn't like to eat

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot in the restaurant because people would just

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<v Speaker 1>turn and look at me and they'd be like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to actually eat both of those? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I would just proceed to like not breathe and just

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<v Speaker 1>shovel food. And you can eat that much food because

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<v Speaker 1>I get through like just over three quarters of the bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just ashamed that I can't finish that last bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess so whole that half your size. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone thinks that it sounds so great, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a hassle to have to put down that many calories

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<v Speaker 1>and just keep just keep in mind what you put

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<v Speaker 1>in also coming out. Wow, yeah, just whole new side?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you clean? I have? I don't hold back clean.

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<v Speaker 1>I like you. You seem like a great guy. You're

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I never want to have boys because

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<v Speaker 1>they eat so freaking much. Like I used to date

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<v Speaker 1>a football player in college and he would daily eat

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<v Speaker 1>a loaf of bread with all of the sandwiches and

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<v Speaker 1>the toast. I'm like, I never want boys. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be dry. It's expensive, ry, damn the

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<v Speaker 1>gross and yeah, my poor mom we have I have

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<v Speaker 1>two younger brothers and they also eat like a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of horses. So it's it was whoever could eat the fastest,

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<v Speaker 1>because my parents would cook the food and then it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, here's here's all the food we have, and

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<v Speaker 1>once it's gone, it's gone. So that's I think where

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<v Speaker 1>I had to like learn how to re eat in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that was like if I was going out

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<v Speaker 1>on dates, I had to like catch myself because I

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<v Speaker 1>would be like face. I would be like face in

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<v Speaker 1>the plate, Like you gotta like free eat before the date,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have a free date meal and then you

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<v Speaker 1>go and you have your second dinner and then it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably a post date meal the way out. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>literally people will see me like when I was at

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<v Speaker 1>my work when I worked medical sales, I'd bring this

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<v Speaker 1>big old trough of food in and I would put

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<v Speaker 1>my arm around it and like literally like be like

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<v Speaker 1>right here, and it's like almost like a protective mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, you're not coming my food exactly. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>picturing like Gain melf In, Lord of the Rings with

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<v Speaker 1>a stick like thou shall not pass you intern of

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<v Speaker 1>your chipole bowl. Oh yeah, I've had I even had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times people like can I try that?

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, like the way my eyes darted up

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<v Speaker 1>with them like excuse me, absolutely not slowly please exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I feel like we could talk about

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<v Speaker 1>food and chipol all day, all day. I hope we

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<v Speaker 1>were recording all of this first and foremost we want

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome you officially to Batch your Happy Hour because

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<v Speaker 1>this is your first time here, so welcome. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>guys for having me. I'm excited. Yes, we could talk

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<v Speaker 1>all day about food, but there are other dimensions of me,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can try to touch on those other dimensions

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the whole foodie I love it well. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you mentioned the other dimensions because we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into all of the fun stuff of your time

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<v Speaker 1>on Michelle season of your own season, but before that,

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<v Speaker 1>you've kind of, I mean, you've really had such a

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<v Speaker 1>unique experience as personally because you've never watched yourself until

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<v Speaker 1>now on TV, because when Michelle's season was airing, you

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<v Speaker 1>were actually in the midst of your own season filming,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's so much that you've missed. This is really

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<v Speaker 1>your first time watching yourself back on TV, hearing yourself

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<v Speaker 1>back on TV, hearing what everyone back on your season

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<v Speaker 1>has to say. It's it's just like a weird world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know from experience, and I know Serena knows

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<v Speaker 1>from experience what that feels like. So first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing now that everything's done filming, it's

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<v Speaker 1>finally airing? Like, how are you dealing with the social

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<v Speaker 1>media and the dms and all of that craziness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think at first it was kind of quiet, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to respond as much as I could,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, very just appreciative for the whole opportunity. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be able to let people know, like, hey, like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for reaching out. It means a lot. Then

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<v Speaker 1>the first episode aired and all of a sudden, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just like opened the floodgates. And at that

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<v Speaker 1>point I started to get overwhelmed, and yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be lying if I said it was all sunshine

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<v Speaker 1>and roses. I have definitely fallen victim to reading everything,

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<v Speaker 1>which again everybody's told me stop reading all the comments,

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<v Speaker 1>but I my thought was, if I know what's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no surprises. What I found those again is now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching the show and I see the comments, and

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<v Speaker 1>I understand a lot of these thoughts that people are

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<v Speaker 1>throwing out there on the Internet, and they're saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not seeing this and we're not seeing that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing a lot of this for the first time myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I mean, I'm sure we'll jump into some of

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes, but like the last episode with what all

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<v Speaker 1>had happened with the drama, I didn't even know that

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<v Speaker 1>was going on, and so like, I'm watching it now

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, and I'm like, wow, okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>was all happening while I was off talking with other women,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had I had seen that and realized what

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<v Speaker 1>was occurring, I think I would have responded to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know I would have responded to it,

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<v Speaker 1>but people have to understand I didn't see that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually now watching it for the first time with everybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's news to me. A lot of what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing now, and that's it is challenging because again

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<v Speaker 1>I see people that are coming after me and my

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<v Speaker 1>character and saying, this guy has terrible judgment. Why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you respond to this? And the answer is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's simple. It's like, do you see me in that

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<v Speaker 1>picture like they're when they're showing the drama, Am I

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<v Speaker 1>they are present? And the answer is no. So I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know about it. I was left in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>I only knew what the women brought to me. And again, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing is like a lot of what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of got bits and pieces through the

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<v Speaker 1>conversations I had, right, Yeah, And I think what people

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<v Speaker 1>need to remember is there's one of you and about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty women, so the ratio is off. You're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of every single conversation in every single realm.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think how you said it is perfect, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't see Clayton in the room, that means

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<v Speaker 1>he probably wasn't privy to what was happening in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that even as a contestant, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember getting dms being like, well, why didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>stick up for this person or why didn't you speak

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<v Speaker 1>up in this situation? And I had a similar experience

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<v Speaker 1>where a lot of drama happened the week of my

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<v Speaker 1>one on one day and I wasn't in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like, you can't be held accountable for

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<v Speaker 1>your actions when you weren't present to even act well.

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<v Speaker 1>And to both of your points, I mean, if anyone

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<v Speaker 1>watches the show, they obviously know there's a lead, there's

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<v Speaker 1>all the contestants, and there's a team of producers who

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<v Speaker 1>work on the show to really navigate every situation, all

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<v Speaker 1>of the dates, all of the conversations to a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 1>but in less Clayton, as you were saying, and less

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<v Speaker 1>a girl is sitting with you bringing up a certain

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<v Speaker 1>situation or certain drama. No one, producers included, aren't going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to you and be like, hey, Clayton, so

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<v Speaker 1>and so said this, So how are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>address it? It's really up to you to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>and navigate every conversation with the women face to face.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's telling you the dirt or the jews, really

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<v Speaker 1>until somebody comes to you directly and sits you down

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<v Speaker 1>and really brings that to light. And so that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I want, you know, to anyone who watches the show,

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone who listens to the podcast, like Clinton, you

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<v Speaker 1>are a human. You are as one person is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate this crazy world. And it's a world that

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<v Speaker 1>you had never watched before. You really had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>or expectations. You're just doing the best you can. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would really ask everyone to just have patience and

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<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of grace and wherewithal to know

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<v Speaker 1>that you're doing your best. You're just like everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to find love, You're trying to find a partner.

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<v Speaker 1>It just makes it very difficult when there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>people on social media popping up and coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the woodwork and saying shit. And I know I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you, I would say, in a way

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<v Speaker 1>where at first I was like, I have been given

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<v Speaker 1>this incredible platform and there's so much support and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to reply to everybody and thank them and really

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be as humble and as gracious as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And very slowly I realized like there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>haters out there, and there's a lot of trolls, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people who will say whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>hell they want to say to get their two seconds

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<v Speaker 1>of fame or they're fifteen minutes of fame, if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I know, even like this week, crazy things

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<v Speaker 1>on social media have been popping up of things that

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<v Speaker 1>happened when you were single, when you were in your

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<v Speaker 1>twenties and just a man dating. So is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to address here first and foremost to

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<v Speaker 1>really get out there so all of our listeners can

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<v Speaker 1>hear it from you directly. Yeah, I mean there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much I want to address, and that's where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can I fit all into one podcast. Probably not,

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<v Speaker 1>But again I'm a big talk rest people will see

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<v Speaker 1>especially on these podcasts, which was a little bit different

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<v Speaker 1>from yeah on the show, where again I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>something I've seen as people say, oh, like, he seems

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't have much to say to these women

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<v Speaker 1>who are giving him there telling them their life stories.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember I went into the whole experience with

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<v Speaker 1>my family saying, Clayton, you're a great talker, but try

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<v Speaker 1>to be a really great listener, like make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>emphasize focusing on keeping your mouth shut and listening. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what I did a lot early on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had a lot of women say, hey, you're great,

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<v Speaker 1>You're such a great listener. But as far as like

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<v Speaker 1>the Chris isn't being like, hey, the guy doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>say a whole lot, I think again it's kind of twofold.

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<v Speaker 1>On one aspect, I was trying to be really good

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<v Speaker 1>just a listening aspect. The other side of it, I

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<v Speaker 1>also it's you know, thirty women come in the house

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<v Speaker 1>and you're talking so far as is day four or

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<v Speaker 1>five or whatever it is that people are seeing this

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<v Speaker 1>episode are and these women are starting to open up

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me some very personal stories. I'm still trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out, Hey, who this person is, what they're,

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<v Speaker 1>how they are, like, what are their inner workings, and

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<v Speaker 1>how can I best respond to something so personal? And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think, just because how the environment is, you

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<v Speaker 1>really jump into those intimate discussions very early on. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't, if you're still getting to understand that person,

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<v Speaker 1>I think at least I find myself being cautious because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to, you know, I'm still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who that person is and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say something that might be misinterpreted. That's something I

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<v Speaker 1>saw on the side. As far as addressing what I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen online, Yeah, I've seen a lot of these tickto

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<v Speaker 1>that have come up as lately regarding my past, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or the relationships that I had in the past, and like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. I never claimed to be some saint

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<v Speaker 1>per se or some or celibate. For the last six

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<v Speaker 1>years of my single life, like I was single, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I enjoyed that singleness. There's a period of

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<v Speaker 1>my life where like, yeah, I wasn't looking for anything

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<v Speaker 1>serious and I was just having fun and enjoying that

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of it, and you know, I think that's just

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<v Speaker 1>something maybe everybody goes through in some capacity. And I

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<v Speaker 1>went through that, and so I am now starting to

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of these things that are coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I I don't understand a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of white people bring it up per se, because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all went through this, but and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some people more than others. But the thing was is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I went out and dated and and had my fun,

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<v Speaker 1>and really what it came to is like it came

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<v Speaker 1>to a head on this year, Like on my twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighth birthday, I realized that I was doing the same things.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't changed my dating life, per se. I haven't changed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my work. Everything was just kind of stagnant,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt like I was going through the motions

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized, like, you need to start making changes

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<v Speaker 1>to see change, and that also can't cut into my

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<v Speaker 1>dating life. I realized that I can't keep going down

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<v Speaker 1>this path of just kind of loosely dating because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to bring me the happiness that I'm looking for,

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<v Speaker 1>which is ultimately another person in my life that I

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<v Speaker 1>can wake up to every day. And that's and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be there with me along that journey of life. So

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<v Speaker 1>I see the things online, I think it's it is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Yeah, I guess for me, it's like yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the what I've seen is absolutely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not factual. Like I've seen some things that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I saw one today the guy said, hey, oh

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<v Speaker 1>he was this I walked down on him with my girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't even know who this guy is.

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<v Speaker 1>Or someone else said like I've been dating date him

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<v Speaker 1>for five years. I was like, how can you make that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how can you say you date me for five years?

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<v Speaker 1>Like where is the evidence? But again, like there's other

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<v Speaker 1>It's just there's just so much and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>I for what it is. I just want people to

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<v Speaker 1>know like, hey, I didn't claim to be this guy

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<v Speaker 1>who just didn't date around or it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>in my inner hole for the last five six years,

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<v Speaker 1>like I went and had my fun. I did, but

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<v Speaker 1>that obviously transitions. Once I hit my twenty birthday this year,

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<v Speaker 1>thinks I realized I started needing to make some changes. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think you dating and living your single

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<v Speaker 1>life equates to you being a bad guy. You were single,

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<v Speaker 1>you were an adult, and you had every right to

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<v Speaker 1>date and have experiences, and you were a freeman and

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<v Speaker 1>now you're not. And I think that's where the line

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<v Speaker 1>gets blurry of people they're seeing you on the Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>dating and they forget that this period of your life

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<v Speaker 1>happened before you went on the show, when you were single.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I don't think you have any need

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<v Speaker 1>to apologize for any of that. People are going to

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<v Speaker 1>come out and they're gonna say dumb shit, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know the truth. And I think that it's great having

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<v Speaker 1>you on the podcast because people are going to get

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<v Speaker 1>to see and learn more about who you are and

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<v Speaker 1>that you are a genuine guy, and that's gonna help

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully with this. There's always going to be haters, there's

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<v Speaker 1>always going to be trolls, but yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to ask you because you have been reading everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know when Beck and I went for drinks

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<v Speaker 1>with you, I think it was like last month you

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, you know, I like reading everything. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been too bad, but I know that that does change

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<v Speaker 1>once the show begins. What do you think moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>like do you think you will continue reading everything? How

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna kind of tackle all of that? I

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<v Speaker 1>was so naive when when I met up with you

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<v Speaker 1>guys a month ago. I have now seen that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting to see the light and it's shining bright and

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<v Speaker 1>blinding me almost. At this point, I had to take

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<v Speaker 1>a step back, and I don't think going forward, I

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<v Speaker 1>will be reading all the comments because it can be detrimental. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you start to go down this rabbit hole of you

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<v Speaker 1>read one comment and then the next one piles on,

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<v Speaker 1>the next one piles on, and you just realize very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly you can't keep everybody happy. There's nothing you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I saw recently a post that said they talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how Clayton is too reassuring to the women, like

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<v Speaker 1>he's giving them too much reassurance, and because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like coach speak. For one, I'm like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a former athlete, so I probably will use as

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<v Speaker 1>far as my vernacular, like it's gonna be pretty similar

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<v Speaker 1>to how like athletes talk because that's my entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>But people critique me on that, and then now that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being critiqued on, well, he's giving these women too

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<v Speaker 1>much positive affirmation where they're going to end up being hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, so I'm giving them too much or

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<v Speaker 1>not enough. It's just you realize it's all over the

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<v Speaker 1>board across the spectrum. I'm either saying too much or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying enough. Listen, I get there's certain things

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, yes, are certainly annoying, like the licking

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<v Speaker 1>my lips thing. I didn't know I did that until

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that they've never noticed it. When I'm watching

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<v Speaker 1>the show, I forget. I am so sorry because you

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<v Speaker 1>will Now that's all you'll see because once you realize it,

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<v Speaker 1>like I realized that because I'm I'm very hyper aware

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<v Speaker 1>of like myself and how I'm portrayed, So once I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, I was like, oh my gosh. And then

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<v Speaker 1>certain then all of a a sudden, tweets start coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's everything gets critiqued, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why I do it. I think maybe it's a nervous

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tick per se or whatever it could be,

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<v Speaker 1>but all of it, Yeah, it's just so heavily scrutinized,

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<v Speaker 1>and you realize that you're like, I can't keep everyone happy,

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<v Speaker 1>so instead of me trying to maybe I should just

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and push it all away and just take

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<v Speaker 1>a step back and focus on other things that actually

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<v Speaker 1>do make me happy and stop trying to please everyone. Well, Clayton,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you knew this, but sign up

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bachelor, you're supposed to be perfect, like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have a past, you can't have dated in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have slept around. Basically, you can have no fun,

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<v Speaker 1>no personality, must personality. Listen you, I mean, you said

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<v Speaker 1>it best. You're not going to please everyone. There's always

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<v Speaker 1>going to people that say you do too much, too little,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they don't say about you, they're saying it

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<v Speaker 1>about somebody else on the show. It's just there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way to make everyone happy. So you just really have

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on what's going to make you happy in

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<v Speaker 1>this world now that you're in it. One thing and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of going into that comment about how you're too

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<v Speaker 1>reassuring to the women and then going back to what

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<v Speaker 1>you just previously said in one of your answers, is

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening so much, You're really taking in all of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that these women are saying. It leads me

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of take a step back and remember those

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<v Speaker 1>first couple of weeks when I was the lead, because

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<v Speaker 1>I remember meeting twenty five thirty men who already knew

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<v Speaker 1>enough about me and the position that I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>really felt like I was kind of in your shoes

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<v Speaker 1>where I was listening so much because I was really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pick apart all of these men and to

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<v Speaker 1>see who could actually fit into my life and be

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<v Speaker 1>a good partner for me. And so I remember those

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<v Speaker 1>first couple of weeks listening so much, and really they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't asking a lot of questions about me. It was

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<v Speaker 1>more at the other end where I was asking so

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<v Speaker 1>much about these guys. Is that kind of where you

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<v Speaker 1>felt yourself in this role is because you were really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pick apart each woman, each relationship to see

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<v Speaker 1>who would be the best fit for you. Oh yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me and what I caught early on,

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually pretty interesting because I saw there was

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<v Speaker 1>a contrast between Michelle season and mine. We went in

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<v Speaker 1>on Michelle's side of things knowing kind of who she was,

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<v Speaker 1>right or having the basics. I mean, we didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>her truly down to her core, but we had an

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<v Speaker 1>idea she's a teacher's former athlete, like we had a

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<v Speaker 1>background and on this side of things, as I found out,

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<v Speaker 1>the women didn't really know who I was at I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they showed up night one and they're like, who, what's

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<v Speaker 1>it gonna look like? We don't know, Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>they found out a few days before they showed up

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<v Speaker 1>on you for the limos, And I found like early

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<v Speaker 1>on our conversations the women would be asking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like we'll tell me about you, but I would switch

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<v Speaker 1>it back on them because I knew, like night one,

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<v Speaker 1>I had five maybe at most five minutes with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these women, so I would switch it right back. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, okay, hey, like you know, I'll answer

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<v Speaker 1>the question. Then I would go right back to but like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>like so tell me about you know, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>what you've done, what you did prior, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>get here? Like I wanted to get to know them

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<v Speaker 1>as much as possible, because again that night, the first night,

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<v Speaker 1>you sent home like seven women. So you know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I need to know as much as I

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<v Speaker 1>can know about someone in five minutes so that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sending somebody home. Potentially that could be like the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect match for me, I just missed out on maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like getting the right like the little tidbits that I

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<v Speaker 1>needed to make a conscious decision. And the fact of

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<v Speaker 1>the matter is is like night one, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to five or six of the women. You

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<v Speaker 1>just can't get around to all of it regardless. So yeah,

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I found early on I was like, just ask as

0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>many questions as you can. But that's what people are

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:07.720
<v Speaker 1>seeing now on TV is the women are doing a

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 1>ton of talking and I'm just over there like, yeah,

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.479
<v Speaker 1>it's because like I'm asking the questions and then I'm

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.639
<v Speaker 1>just letting them speak because that's how I was going

0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>to get to know him so I can make those

0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 1>decisions at the end of it all. Two months is

0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:20.800
<v Speaker 1>two months, and I found out two months is plenty

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.439
<v Speaker 1>of time when that's all you have to focus on

0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.320
<v Speaker 1>his relationships. But the last thing I wanted was to

0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.119
<v Speaker 1>feel like I ran out of time with somebody. I

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.439
<v Speaker 1>didn't want that to be the deciding factor, right. And

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure like coming from because you know, I was

0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.480
<v Speaker 1>on Matt season, which was the last season I came

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 1>in as a contestant, and I feel like as a contestant,

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.439
<v Speaker 1>you come in and you know, Okay, I might only

0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>have three to five minutes with this guy tonight, and

0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the night, he has to make

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a decision. So as much as I want to see

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:50.920
<v Speaker 1>if there's a connection there, I really want to show

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.679
<v Speaker 1>him who I am so I can leave feeling like,

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, if it didn't work out, I showed him

0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.119
<v Speaker 1>who I am. I shared my story. He got a

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:02.200
<v Speaker 1>vibe for my person soonality. So, and I mean they've

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the quarantine was like on your season,

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 1>but we were in a room for like five days.

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was ready to talk for hours when

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I go out of there. So I mean, I'm sure

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>you're finding You're asking questions, and these women are excited

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>to share with you who they are. Yeah. The big

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 1>thing was again, it's like in the real world, if

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you went out on a date, you would have a

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 1>nice back and forth, you would have you know, you'd

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 1>ask some questions, they'd ask them some questions. Hopefully you

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:32.200
<v Speaker 1>would get that fifty fifty kind of effort on both sides.

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 1>But in this environment, it's like, you really hope for me.

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, I was like, listen,

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 1>like hopefully over a time, like you guys will will

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 1>be able to get to know me the longer you're here.

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 1>But like a lot of these conversations are gonna be

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>ninety ten, right like you, ninety percent of time you're talking,

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening that you know, for that ninety percent, and

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>then I'm talking for the other ten And it can

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>be a lot. It's kind of a it takes a

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit of an adjustment period. And I could tell

0:23:57.640 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>like at first kind of women they want to ask

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the questions, but I would just turn it right back

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 1>because again, when I was back on a shell season,

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I had three minutes and I'm like

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>clocks ticking. Second I sat down, I was like, all right, Michelle,

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm a medical sales I played football like I was

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>just like firing off bullet points. And it felt kind

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 1>of forced. And I remember walking out of that first

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>conversation with her being like, yeah, I feel like I

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 1>just read my resume to her like that was it.

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's any personality involved. I just

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 1>straight up read it off. But that's kind of again,

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>three minutes boom, next guy could come of walking in

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>smiling and you're like, all right, well there goes that

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:35.159
<v Speaker 1>speed dating. Yes, yes, very much so well, And what

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:36.879
<v Speaker 1>people need to keep in mind is we're only two

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>weeks in, Like, we've only seen two episodes, so of

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>course it's going to be more getting to know all

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.200
<v Speaker 1>of these women. As time goes on and as the

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>cast goes down and you have more intimate one on

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>one time with most of these women, We're going to

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 1>see you more. We're going to see more of your personality,

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>more of the conversations, more of that banter, more of

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>these connections form. We've only seen two episodes and this

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 1>week unfortunately didn't get one, so that will come. I

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>know it seems like a lot right now, and a

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of those comments about you know, you not doing enough,

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 1>for being too much of this or that, whatever it

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:12.719
<v Speaker 1>might be. But let it breathe everyone again, give him

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 1>some time, give him some patience. It's not easy being

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor, I know, as fun as it is dating

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty people. Clayton, how difficult was it? Truly? Extremely difficult? Again,

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing that I wanted to early on was like, okay,

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>don't forget names and don't mix up stories, because the

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>last thing you want to do is go into a

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>conversation and be like, yeah, remember when you told me

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>about that experience you had so and so, And she's like,

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the other girls, Like you don't

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>want to you don't want that to happen, Like I

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:41.479
<v Speaker 1>think you're talking about one of the other women. So

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 1>early on, I'm like, just get the stories straight. Make

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>sure that like you're being the best listener possible, because again,

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>like that's important for relationship. I think I've seen studies

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.199
<v Speaker 1>where it's like people that are great listeners tend to

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.200
<v Speaker 1>be more well liked because again it's like everyone likes

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>to feel like they're being heard. And that to me again,

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>as I've seen in the medical profession sales, it's like

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone loves to talk about themselves, so you know, lend

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that ear to them, and that's how you get to

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, people will give up so much information about

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>themselves if you just sit there and actively listen, and

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>so I try to do that. But with thirty women,

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 1>it's like there's thirty different personalities. And as I'm seeing

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>from just the first two episodes, I was like, man,

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I live this experience, but when I'm seeing almost feels

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>like an entirely new experience because I didn't know this

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>was happening, and I do actually want to address something

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>head on right now because I've seen it. It's kind

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>of been bubbling up on social media and it was

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.120
<v Speaker 1>frustrating for me to watch as well, this is kind

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of pertaining to this is pertaining to Elizabeth and shine

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that drama. I didn't realize that sheney that you went

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 1>after her to the degree that she did about her

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 1>at ADHD. I don't condone that behavior at all. It

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 1>was very upsetting for me to watch and realize that

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>someone would make a joke out of someone having a deficit,

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 1>and that was something where again for me seeing for

0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 1>the first time, I was frustrated by it because I

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.400
<v Speaker 1>don't think that anybody should be doing that, coming after

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>someone for something that again like they were born with

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>their have and they have to deal with on a

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>daily basis. I also am very impressed by what I'm

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>seeing from Elizabeth. I know she's now using her platform

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>for good, but yeah, you know, you see these aspects

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of the show that like I didn't know we're happening,

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>We're occurring, and it's again it's eye opening and but

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>That's where again I go back to people say why

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't you react to this, and it's like, I didn't

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>know the severity of the situation, and unfortunately it did

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 1>occur as we've all we all saw and now it's

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>like okay, people like are saying, like, how can you

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>keep someone around like this? It's like, just again, I

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind that if I'm not there on screen,

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not there, which means I'm not privy to it.

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>But I just I just actually just wanted to bring

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that up because again, I think it's important for people

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to understand that, like I personally don't support that kind

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of behavior coming after somebody for for deficit so that

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 1>they may have that they're working their best to overcome,

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and especially through on a national platform. I can only imagine,

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, what Elizabeth was going through, having to have

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>that cast out not only to the women but to

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the entire world. I think she's doing a great job

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of it, and I'm glad to see that she's being

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>able to find some positive avenues to drive this focus towards,

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, fostering some good discussion and putting like this

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>all towards a fundraiser. Thank you for bringing that up.

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point, and that's something that Serena and

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I had touched on last week on the podcast, and

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>obviously it was a big conversation in the episode that

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>we saw last week. So I appreciate you taking this

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>time and some moments to speak on that. Absolutely. Yeah, yes,

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and I do think you know, it's only been two episodes.

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>You clearly haven't been afraid to take the steps to

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>send people home and when we saw it in the

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>first episode with Claire, So I think everyone can just

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>be a little patient with you. Give you some grace.

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you can give yourself some grace. You're doing

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic job, and just let the season unfold. You know,

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>we're going to see a lot more of you, a

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>lot more drama, and I'm sure there's gonna be tons

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>of opportunities for you to get friends and situations, both

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>on the show and through the podcast. Yeah, patience is key,

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's where like, even me, I'm like, Clayton, be patient.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>You know how this story unfull is, And yet you're

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the one who's like, now like listening to all these

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>comments and being like I'm getting impatient. I just want

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>this to happen, and it's like, oh, like, just give it.

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>There's plenty. You got eight more episodes, havery more episodes

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I've had. This story will unfold the truth. Let it breathe,

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Let it breathe, baby, let's get Let's just bring it

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.959
<v Speaker 1>back to the very very beginning, because obviously, again we

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't have you on Michelle's season on our podcast to

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>talk through anything to get to know you. So I

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>want to know because I don't think you'd ever watched

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the show before. So how did you get cast on

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Michelle season? I was reached out to on social media.

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Funny enough, I think I made like an Instagram. I

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's just a year ago that I made one,

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>just because it seemed like all my friends had funneled

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>away from f book. So I felt that I was

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>out of the loop. And so I was like, I

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>have to download Instagram. I remember trying to creep on Instagram,

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>like go on like instagram dot com. I didn't. I

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to actually download the app. And then I

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>realized you have to download the app to see the content.

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>So I made the Instagram and then, yeah, I was

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>reached out to that way, and of course I thought

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>it was fake and I was like, Okay, this is

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Brye some spam. But but yeah, that was there. Was

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>reached out to that way and just kept going step

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>by step through the process and now all the way

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>on this side of it. So wait, you know, come

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>full circle. I have to know. So you don't let

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>an Instagram about a year ago, but you like you've

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>lived your single tunnies, did you have girls comment on

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you didn't have Instagram, Because frankly, when

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I was dating, if someone was like, oh I don't

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>have Instagram, I'm like, Okay, either you're a creep or

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you're lying and I'm gonna find you you're a serial killer. Yeah,

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of Yeah, I've had like a

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>few women that they brought it to my attention to

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:57.959
<v Speaker 1>there like yeah, I definitely sent my location to my

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>friends because I couldn't find many pictures of you because

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you just have a Facebook and that's about it. And obviously,

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like some of the dating apps, like I had my

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>few pictures, but they couldn't like go and see yeah,

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>like his Instagram, Like why is this guy to have

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>an Instagram? Is this really him? Like all those questions

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I had and it was never enough for me to

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, I need to make an Instagram because

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>my character was being questioned or even my identity. But certainly, yeah,

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that was a conversation I've had a couple of times. Well,

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the good thing is going on the Bachelorette. There's no phone,

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>so you don't even need Instagram. But I mean, we

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>saw a little bit of you on Michelle season. Do

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to just touch on how your experience was

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>on the show? I mean we saw your journey, looked

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like you were growing feelings for Michelle and obviously it

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out. Yeah, it was That was really the

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>whole experience helped second way me very well into the

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>role as the bachelor, and it was a lot with

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>having to do with like not only Michelle, but the

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>other guys as well. I was blown away by the

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>quality of men that they brought on. There were so

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>many of them that had very successful backgrounds, They had

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of confidence. They just were very comfortable in

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>their own skin, and that was something that I struggled

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>with definitely coming into it. I you know, being in Columbia,

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Missouri and dating dating, it's like if you're kind of

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>like you can be a big fish in a small

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>pond per se. But then all of a sudden, you

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>go and you can get these guys that are all

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>like they picked from all across the country and they

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>were really just like incredible human beings that I started

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>seeing my confidence start to waver coming on the show.

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>First person I saw was Nate. I remember that was

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the first person that I saw, and I'm like, he's

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>six foot eight, good looking guy, and I'm like, oh

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, Like I'm gonna be like it's gonna be

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>a whole basketball team of guys and I'm gonna be

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the shorty at six foot five, and so yeah, it

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>was like a shock to me. And then I started

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>talking to the guys getting to know them, and the

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>whole experience really allowed me to step back and I

0:32:58.480 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of help from the guys who talked

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>to me one on one. More than a few guys

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>reached out obviously or we're actively helping me along the way.

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>You know. I roomed with Brandon on the tail end

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of the show, and I mean we bonded so hard,

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>like in those you know, that week or so that

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I was there as his roommate because we just talked

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>about life. We sat up, we called a pillow talk,

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and we would have talked for like three or four

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>hours and then up being wiped out the next day, like, hey,

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>did you have three to four hours to talk? I

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like we got no time alone, no time to sleep.

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>How did you squeeze in those hours? Well, we would

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>get That's the thing. We would get, like we would

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>get maybe five hours to sleep and we would talk

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>for three, so we'd end up getting two hours. And

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I would always be like, Brandon, I'm going to that.

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like nah Man's pillow talk time. And I was like,

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that's so cute. But He's I grew

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>very quickly. I was like, this, guys is incredible. He

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>taught me a lot. He taught me the power of

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>just like if you really care about somebody, go above

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and beyond right. He was a big note writer. He

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>truly was like any moment I could get with her,

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>like I want to show her that I care. And

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>that's where he showed me, like, hey, write a note,

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>whatever you can do, go the extra step to show

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>somebody that you truly care about him. He got me

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>into journaling. That was so critical. On my side of

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>things where I used that as much as I could

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't have friends of family around, so I'd

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>be writing that and that would help just put my

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on paper and help me decompress. And then the

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>big thing with Michelle was she opened me back up

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to fully tearing down my walls and realizing, like, you

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>want this relationship more than anything, like you want to

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>be happy with one person, like your single life that

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you went through wasn't giving you that. And it came

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>down to that last date. I was very I was

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.720
<v Speaker 1>still very guarded going into that last date with Michelle,

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like I was slow to open up. And as we

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>saw in the season, I saw it my conversations with

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>her weren't as deep. They're more surface level versus other

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>guys because I was just very cautious. But I got

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>into that last date and the museum day, it was

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 1>so much fun. It was just like it really showed

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>me like I was able to start opening up to her,

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and then by the end of it, I'm like, wow,

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>like I actually feel something special here, Like there's a

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>like we're taking it to the next step as far

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>as this relationship. I haven't done this in a why

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>every time I get to this point with somebody in

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the past, I would shut down because I you know,

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I had my own battle scars from my previous relationship

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:22.959
<v Speaker 1>that I was in, and so i'd use you would

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>shut off. But I just kept pushing forward with Michelle,

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and then she opened me up. Obviously, then

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>she sent me home right after that point, but she

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>told me, you know, hey, stay true to yourself and

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>don't close back off. Promised me that, and I didn't,

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>and that's what allowed me then to go into the

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor and come in more open than I had been

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>really since my previous wayship six years ago. Yeah. So,

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure your answers are going to be vastly different

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>from Michelle's season versus your own season. But during your

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>time on Michelle's season, were there any moments in particular

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 1>that really stand out to you that were especially great

0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>or challenging you se on michelle season? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>we're very challenging. Um, I think not one thing stands

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>out off the top of my head. I think because

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the whole experience was challenging. So night one I

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>thought about going home like six times. I was like,

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing here. You don't belong these Some

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>of these guys are huge characters, like what did you

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>get yourself into? And so it was challenging in that

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>respect for me. Then for the first week or so,

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I think I was in my shell. And that's where

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like when it came into conversations with Michelle, I

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>would I was kind of guarded and I was just

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to get to know her, but she was asking

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>me a lot of questions, and I remember trying to

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>like ask her more questions, but she would push it

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>back to me the same way that I did when

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I was I was the lead as well. It's like

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the lead tries to push the questions onto the women

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to get to know them or the men. But I

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>was just trying to figure everything out. And I look

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>back at that now and I don't know. I'm like,

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>did should I have watched priory sees? Like would that

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>have helped give me an idea? I don't know if

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll ever have the answer to that, because I went

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>in with just like basically with the blinders on, kind

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>of went in like all right here, I Am like,

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna just have fun with it all and make

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>this as authentic as possible. I still don't know to

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>this day if that was beneficial or not, but it

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely made it challenging because everything was new to me,

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and so when I go into new environments, I get

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>very quiet and I just take in as much as

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I can. Like that's because I'm like, don't open your

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 1>mouth and be a fool. Like there's some famous quote

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>or something I loved, like someone reference to me, like

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>better for people to think you're a fool than to

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>open your mouth and remove all doubts, And that was

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>like what I thought going into I'm like, do not

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 1>just take it all in and then you'll start to

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>open up as time goes on. So but with that, yeah,

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>everything was challenging on Michelle season. It was all just

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 1>brand new. Well to your point, and this is something

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that Serena and I had talked about it. I believe

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>what in our first episode of your season with Jesse

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Palmer is because you win in not watching previous seasons.

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>You didn't have a game plan, you didn't have this

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>rule book or notes on what to do or what

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>not to do or when to say certain things, which

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 1>for me personally as a viewer, I find very endearing.

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know it's that's not necessarily the case

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 1>because I think so many people that tend to go

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>on the show now are fans. They kind of know

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>how each season works, what happens when, what you should

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>do in certain situations, and for you, you're kind of

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>just like going with the wind and going, you know,

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 1>wherever it takes you, and which I will say, I

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>love that you are able to ask more questions, especially

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 1>with Jesse, of like has this happened before? How what

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 1>do you do in this case? Like any advice, which

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's more fresh and refreshing for me, I

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>would say, yeah, I And I think some people do

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>see that as like why, like what is this guy doing?

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Does he not know how it works? It's like no, no, no,

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it's all as people will see, and

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll be able to talk on some of these things

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>more as they pop up. But some of the things

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.479
<v Speaker 1>that happened I remember just like looking over at Jesse

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>or whoever and be like is this for real? Like

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.439
<v Speaker 1>this can we do this? Like? And I think people

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>have already seen that in teasers like with me be like,

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, what are your thoughts on this can I

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>do this? Because every day I would just like wake

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>up and then I'd be like, okay, like let's go

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>about my day, and all of a sudden this happened.

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait, is this par for the course? Yeah?

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Apparently it is. But I didn't want to be influenced

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>by the outside world or any external factors that would

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>cause me to change who I was. And for that, yeah,

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I can say that through the entire experience, I was

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:41.240
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent myself and took those course of actions

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>that I thought were best. But had I'd watched prior seasons,

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 1>might I had went about it differently and maybe made

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>some better decisions potentially. Yes, I just that that's a

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 1>huge one if game that you can you'll never win

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to flight. Yeah, And I think, as much as

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a cheesy thing to say, the best

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.280
<v Speaker 1>thing you can do going on any of these shows

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>is to just be yourself. And it's it's so corny,

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>but it is true because that is how you're going

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>to give yourself the best chance at finding a connection

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>or realizing that that's not the connection for you. And

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:17.839
<v Speaker 1>I think whether you go and blind going in as

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>a fan you know, that brings out the most genuine people,

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and that's how people find love. And I think that's

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>why you know, people like you, Clayton. You you were

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>a hundred percent yourself on michelle season, and that's why

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>we see all of the men from that season really

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>rooting for you. And Michelle as well has been so

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>open about like her admiration for you and her excitement

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>around you being the Bachelor. So you have a lot

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>of support and I think that just speaks to the

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>fact that you were so yourself and genuine on you know,

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Michelle's season. We are seeing that from you on this season.

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I think there was a lot of

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>excitement from your cast about you being the Bachelor. What

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>was your reaction when you got the call? I mean,

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>where you sup? I had to feel it was a

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>good thing that I was sitting down, because I just

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I would have probably just like you know, I was

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>so in shock when I got when I got the call,

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 1>and I think again, it happened so quickly. I went

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:18.240
<v Speaker 1>from Michelle's season to mine a month later. And what

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 1>was great about it was like talking to the women,

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, I was just in your shoes,

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>like I was literally in your shoes not even a

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>month ago, and that really helped, I think quell a

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of that early on. I think there was a

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of that nervousness with these women, but they I

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>like quickly. I think it calmed them down by being like, hey,

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just as nervous, like I am not that far

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>moved from it, and I have no pro by any means,

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, to be had to have them bring that

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>to me, it meant so much because it was not

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 1>only humbling, but I was just very thankful to be

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>even considered had I not even had end up getting

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the role as the bachelor, Like just for them to say, hey, like,

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>we like you, we think you're a good guy, and

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>we're considering you for this, it was I think reflective

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 1>upon me as far as letting me know, Okay, you're

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:06.760
<v Speaker 1>doing some things right, you're a good guy and people

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>see that. And that's again, I've always been a people pleaser.

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.959
<v Speaker 1>That's just my personality. I always try to make people

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:15.479
<v Speaker 1>happy before I make myself happy. You got to find

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>that balance, for sure, But that's where it's Yeah, it's

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the challenge. It's like I know that the producers saw

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 1>this in me, and that's why they gave me the opportunity.

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And now I'm hoping that most people will see that

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>long term once this is all done again. Everyone needs

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to have some patience, and I think it will come

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>around that way. But yeah, I mean an absolute shock. You. Obviously,

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought my journey was over on Michelle's side, and

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.839
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go back and make

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 1>some changes in my life. I just didn't realize the

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>changes would be as magnanimous. Well, I have to say,

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was very, very cute the little clip

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of your season where you went and

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you told your mom, yeah, oh, yeah, she is a

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>major bachelor Bachelor family. She's been she's been with the

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:04.240
<v Speaker 1>franchise since the beginning of time, and so she yeah,

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>she was completely caught off guard. I came in on

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>like a Tuesday, because normally it was summertime when I

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>told her, and towards the end of it, and I

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 1>would usually come back in the weekends to go on

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the boat with my parents, so I could just sit

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>out on the boat and relax under the sun. It

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>was great. And I came back on like a Tuesday

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 1>at night and she's like, what are you doing there?

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I commented her breathe. She started getting breathing

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>really heavily. I'm like, oh my gosh, i'mna have to

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>hold her. She's going to pass out on camera here.

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, just as everyone saw, like, my mom is

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>so very supportive, so excited, she's always texting me. But

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, the sad part about it is she's taking

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 1>all of this criticism worse than I am. And so

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that's been actually very you know for me, I haven't

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>been too excited about that. It's like I've taken in

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 1>a certain way. But like my mom really really is

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 1>struggling with it, and I tell her to get off

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 1>social media and she can't do it either. She's like

0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 1>so curious, but it's driving her absolutely wild. And I

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 1>think that's just where I if anyone watches this and

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and thinks about typing a negative comment, I'm like, realize

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that it's not just me that you're affecting, you know,

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:14.839
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's my loved ones. You're affecting my mom.

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>And again, like some of these comments and after the

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>show can only show what they can show in two hours,

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>so I get it. Like we all know they filmed

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>so much, but only like what makes it as one

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>percent of what was filmed. But sometimes it's like okay,

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I recently my brother texted me after this last episode.

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 1>He was like, hey, you did a lot of kissing

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.280
<v Speaker 1>on the episode. You didn't really do a lot of talking.

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm kind of like, like, what are you doing? Man?

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you need to be getting to know these women.

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>And I remember like that hearing it from a loved one,

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>someone who knows me is questioning who I am as

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 1>a person. That hit me really hard. And so it's

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:50.800
<v Speaker 1>like I think people have to understand, like your words

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 1>do affect me, Like and I'll put a smile on

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>and every day I'll start brand new and then start

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the day over and I'll look forward to like what's

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>to come. But like those one kind and you think

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>it's just one comment, understand that I'm not just reading

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>that one comment. I'm reading your comment. I'm reading the

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand other comments and they all pile on and

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it can be a lot, and it doesn't It can

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>really affect someone's mental health, not only mine but my mom's.

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, again I go from these tangents because

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I have so much to say as I think about,

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like what all has occurred since I've been the Bachelor.

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 1>But while it has been such a phenomenal experience, while

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>it was so exciting to get that call to be

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the next Bachelor, I'm now seeing that the hardest parts

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>actually not so much the show's it's the aftermath. It's

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.800
<v Speaker 1>this part of it now watching it with the public. Yeah,

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure we can all say this from

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>being on several seasons. The filming part is fun, you know.

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Of course, there's drama and there's there's a lot of stress,

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and it can be very very difficult, But the airing

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>of everything back is when it gets very very difficult.

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'm so glad you touched on the point of

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:01.439
<v Speaker 1>it not only affecting you but your family, because I mean,

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I get it. There's there's a support system, I feel

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like for everyone in bachel Nation with each other who

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 1>have gone through this similar experience, but there's not really

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>one for the parents and the siblings and other family members.

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>So I want to say, like, if your mom ever

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.320
<v Speaker 1>needs anyone to talk to, my mom is widely available.

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>She would love to just give any advice to be

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 1>a shoulder to cry on. Same with Thomas's family, I know.

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was villainized on Katie's season of the Bachelorette,

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:29.839
<v Speaker 1>and he went through a really hard time and it

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:33.320
<v Speaker 1>really really affected his mom, it really affected his sister,

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>even his brother who had never watched the show before.

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>And so everyone just take a second to realize that,

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 1>like again, words do matter, They hold weight, they can

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>cut people down, and they can really affect other family

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:50.439
<v Speaker 1>members who just love and know you for who you are.

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm glad that you mentioned that because I

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think people hear it enough. I don't think people

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 1>remember that enough. It can be very, very difficult. So

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>if your mom needs anyone, I'll give her Jill conference number. Okay,

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.879
<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate that, Thank you so much. Yeah, she honestly, Yeah,

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I think she's She's also as leaks go on, I

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 1>think she'll become all get a little more acclimated to it.

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just that initial shock. Yeah, And I think over

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>time it may get better, make it worse, but I

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 1>will I'll keep that mind because I think it would

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>be It's always great to hear from people who have

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>experience with it, and I mean, listen, you are the lead,

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:28.919
<v Speaker 1>like you are America's most eligible, eligible bacher right now,

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and if you're getting you know, hate or crap or

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, all these negative things coming norway. Also remember

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>women on your season and contestants from past seasons, if

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>they're villainized or if they're painted in some sort of

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>bad spotlight, like how difficult it is for them as well?

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Who aren't the lead? Who aren't you know, beloved and

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 1>sought after in this moment? It's it's it's a weird

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>world that we all get ourselves into. Um And I'm

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>sure you did a lot after getting that initial call

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to prep for being the lead, right, Like, there's so

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>much echoes into it, physically, mentally, emotionally. So how did

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you prepare yourself and get ready for being the Bachelor? Well,

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>like so many things that you said, it physically, mentally, emotionally.

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember, Like physically first off, I was like, guys,

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>we need to get me a sense of style because

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 1>on Michelle's side of it, oh my gosh, I've had

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I packed. I remember I had a conversation one night

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:28.800
<v Speaker 1>they go, we did you guys at a dress for

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 1>like a kind of business casual or something on those

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>sides like a date night of fancy date night and

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I walk out of the hotel out of my room

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>like no, Clayton like we need something for a date.

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:38.359
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, this is what i'd wear

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 1>like it was just like I remember, it was like

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a like monarch, like was this like a It was

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>like a plain light green T shirt and I had

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:52.839
<v Speaker 1>on these like kind of there are shorts, but they

0:48:52.840 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>were like but they were version yes part yeah. And

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 1>they are like do you have a dress shirt? And

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I brought a single dress shirt? Uh there?

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>And they're like what are you doing? I'm like, I don't.

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:09.880
<v Speaker 1>When I go on dates, I just wear T shirts

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 1>or like uh you know, I don't. I don't know

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 1>it's T shirts. Need to go shopping together. Both Well,

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 1>listen the good thing about like what happened on on

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.920
<v Speaker 1>my side of this journey, because on Michelle's side, I

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 1>think I did wear a pair of jeans one episode.

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>They're like straight dad jeans, not form fitting at all.

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.720
<v Speaker 1>At least now I will only wear fit of jeans.

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 1>So that there's been some good that's come out of it.

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>But how you posted like a photo making fun of

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:38.360
<v Speaker 1>your style. I forget what you said something about like

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>rich kid with a lawyer dad. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. I was Again, it was kind of fun

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 1>because on my side, I told the like, you know,

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 1>what's your style. I was like, let's just open it up, like,

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.959
<v Speaker 1>let me just wear everything across the board and figure

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 1>out what it is. I like, uh and so I

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 1>think if yeah, for watching it now, I realize I'm like,

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>there's like, oh, one one day he's wearing this pole,

0:49:57.760 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the next day he's wearing a blazer with a hoodie

0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.040
<v Speaker 1>under it. I was just going. I was just trying

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:03.640
<v Speaker 1>to all out because I was like, Hey, this is fun,

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I get to kind of like try on these

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 1>clothes and see what works best. But yeah, that was

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>like physically, um, you know, I want to get my

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>fashion the fashion down. Another thing too that I uh

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:22.280
<v Speaker 1>just joke Joe casually walking in Hey Joe, um and

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 1>uh No. I also remember as well, I was like

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:26.839
<v Speaker 1>I think I was. I was stocking up a little

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.359
<v Speaker 1>bit as far as I was making sure to eat

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 1>a little more calories before going into the show because

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I knew that I probably wasn't going to have the

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>same access to like all the food that I wanted,

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 1>or like get being able to work out because you

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:38.120
<v Speaker 1>have so much of your time is spent, you know,

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 1>talking with the women that you don't get to have

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that time to focus on nutrition and exercise. So I

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 1>bulked up a little bit going into the show, like

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 1>all these little things I got, like, oh, I know

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:50.399
<v Speaker 1>you met with Jason Creole showed out to Jason. Oh

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>my god, he's too Yeah, he told me. Yeah, he's

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Jason's awesome. He uh Like day one, He's like, Okay,

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>what do you want to work on. I'm like, just

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, some more bodyweight stuff. I'm not a big runner.

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like, well, that's too bad because we're running. So

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 1>he got me and I love it now. I love it.

0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Like he's got me doing sprints now. Like I've just

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.879
<v Speaker 1>carried on with like his workouts and yeah, he's great.

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 1>He's so motival, motivational. He's gonna be so happy he.

0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I would see him after he would train you every

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.439
<v Speaker 1>morning and he'd be like, I just kicked Clayton's ask again,

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>just kicked his ass. My god, a guy, Jason, I'm

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:23.239
<v Speaker 1>so proud of you. He would be picking me up

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>off the floor. Like his workouts were what forty five

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 1>minutes if that? But like he's that guy. You start

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to make conversation, He's like, I know you're trying

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to do get back to it, like he puts, he

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>puts you right back on that. But I mean he

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 1>got me in this great shape. Yeah, I obviously, like

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I love working with him. He was awesome, such a

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 1>genuine guy, knows what he's talking about. And then mentally

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:48.280
<v Speaker 1>for the show, I just had to tell myself, Okay,

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you're going in alone, so you need to like you

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>need to just understand, like how are you going to

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:56.799
<v Speaker 1>make sense of everything around you? And that's where I

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 1>took to like the journaling and just taking time to

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:01.360
<v Speaker 1>like sit there and at night and kind of just

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 1>stare up at the sailing and let my thoughts just

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>run wild. I just had to make sure I put

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 1>certain things in place so that I was ready for

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>what was to come, which I realized, no matter how

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 1>much I prepared, I was never going to be able

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to be fully ready for what was about to come.

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 1>By way, you can try and prep as much as

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you want. You can talk to past bachelors. For any

0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 1>advice as much as you want, but nothing is ever

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the same each season. You really have no idea what

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>to expect. All right, clean, I have one last question

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:30.919
<v Speaker 1>for you before we get into our game, and that

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:35.799
<v Speaker 1>is night one as the Bachelor. Did you have your

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 1>top four in mind? Like, did you know, Okay, these

0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 1>are going to be my girls, there's somebody here for me? No? No,

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I remember Night one. I thought I was very confident

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 1>about probably ten or twelve and that's okay, that mean

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like that was my number. That's how that's how impressed

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I was by the women. I remember being like, okay,

0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 1>there's ten or twelve of these women that I could

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>see any one of them potentially being the one. I

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>knew there was gonna be so much discussion that would

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 1>have to have and so many experiences and interactions that

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:06.040
<v Speaker 1>would occur. But Night one, like, yeah, I mean, for

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was pretty good to be just right

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>straight off the bat one conversation or like just initial introductions.

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I felt very very good about pye ten, twelve, damn okay, wow.

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:17.799
<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you for like your top three,

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:20.760
<v Speaker 1>because usually that's what carry the stylist would ask every

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 1>every season, but ten or twelve, all right, we gotta over.

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like it. At least you were set.

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 1>That's good. You know it's a good place. I realized.

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I knew I was in a good place. But I

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, if it's this many night one, you

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 1>got your work cut out for you. And I did.

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I definitely did. I love it all right, Okay, we

0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:44.080
<v Speaker 1>love our games at batch or happy hour, so we

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:47.839
<v Speaker 1>are going to play a little game. It's basically it's

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 1>going to be a basic ass rapid fire. Okay, because

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>again so many people still really want to get to

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:55.800
<v Speaker 1>know you, but we just have to start with the basics.

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 1>So basically, Serena and I are going to give you

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:01.359
<v Speaker 1>a question and you just a sut whatever comes to mind.

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Rabbit Fire is like the hardest thing for me because,

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 1>as you guys have seen, I talked so much, but

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll do you have my best effort. It's like it

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:13.440
<v Speaker 1>confines me to a box. I think, I like, this

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.439
<v Speaker 1>is not going to be in his element. He's gonna

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:18.400
<v Speaker 1>want to explain every answer I can already clean. You

0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>were like me, we just like to talk. I get it.

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Okay, So to kick it off. It's

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna be very basic, basic ass, rapid fire. Okay, what

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 1>is your favorite color? Red? Oh? Dogs or cats? Dogs?

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Jeans are sweats? Sweats? Okay? What is your drink of choice?

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Imagine alcoholic? Is that what we're talking about? Sure, let's

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>go alcohol Manhattan, oh, says the guy who ordered what

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Jack Daniels on the Rocks. When I did, I did,

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:55.799
<v Speaker 1>but then I got had the Manhattan after I liked

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 1>it a lot. And now back on the because Thomas

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:00.840
<v Speaker 1>gave you shit. That's I know he did. Sometimes I

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:02.239
<v Speaker 1>need people to give me some ship for me to

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 1>get me back on the encourse. He's just expanding your horizons,

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 1>just like the Bapster did. Okay, what toppings do you

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like on your pizza? Toppings? Okay? Uh? Sausage, pepperoni, Uh, bacon? Okay.

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:23.880
<v Speaker 1>What was the first concert you went to? Uh? In sync?

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 1>What I'm gonna have to at some point, I'm gonna

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 1>have to like explain that one. But I end up,

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll say real quickly, I end up crying because I

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:36.480
<v Speaker 1>was like twelve years old and my aunt brought me.

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I was the only guy there and I cried. I

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:40.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, why am I the only guy here. I

0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:42.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't realized. I didn't realize I was in heaven at

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:44.399
<v Speaker 1>the time, but I was twelve. Oh my god, I'm

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:47.279
<v Speaker 1>so jealous. Okay, Well, speaking of music, what is your

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:53.360
<v Speaker 1>go to karaoke song? Uh? Oh gosh, it could be

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 1>any country song. I think when She Comes Home Tonight

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 1>by Riley Green. Okay. I thought it was gonna be

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>tearing up my heart by in Sick, but we'll go

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:05.399
<v Speaker 1>with country. I've been on a country kick. I feel

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 1>like I know the answer to this next one. Well,

0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 1>what is your favorite chee day meal? There we go always?

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:18.920
<v Speaker 1>How many times can we plugged Chipotle? So we all

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:23.839
<v Speaker 1>get it's hard? Okay? Chipotle, bats are Happy Hour, loves you,

0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:27.880
<v Speaker 1>endorse us, hit us up. That's all right, I'll plug

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it too much. No, we gotta plug it more. Serena,

0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:37.919
<v Speaker 1>okay clean? Are you a night owl or an early riser?

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Early riser? All right? Favorite way to work up a sweat?

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Were working out? Well, we're gonna go kind of get

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I know. I was like I thought, but the original

0:56:53.000 --> 0:56:55.399
<v Speaker 1>thought popped in my head. I said, Nope, not there.

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>What are your three quality is that you look for

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 1>in a romantic partner, honesty, transparency and just being funny,

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>good ones, any guilty pleasures rather than Chipotle. I've messed

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 1>this before. Like, I like candles, so I don't I

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:24.040
<v Speaker 1>like kind of just lighting up some candles and yeah,

0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 1>just and relaxing. Nice. How old were you when you

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 1>had your first kiss? Oh? That thanks you back. It

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>was seventh grade and I remember I kissed with my

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:36.959
<v Speaker 1>hands behind my back. I was so nervous I didn't

0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:38.280
<v Speaker 1>even put my hands on her. It was the most

0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 1>awkward kiss and she told everybody the next day at

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 1>school that I was a terrible kisser. It was it hurt. Oh,

0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you've come a long way from kissing the hands behind

0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the back to being the bad storm kissing thirty women. Yeah,

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 1>you make it. I'm glad they're Yeah. So I've heard

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:57.160
<v Speaker 1>people don't like the kissing noises. That's the whole other conversation. Sorry,

0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't control that one. Well, they can turn their

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 1>volume down. Do you want kids someday? Yes? Who is

0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 1>your best friend from Boucher Nation? Brandon? And last, but

0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 1>not least, do you believe in aliens? Oh? What a

0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 1>closing question? And I can't explain indetail oh my gosh,

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:23.080
<v Speaker 1>because I want Yeah, I believe in extra extraterrestrial life.

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Do I think it's intelligent? I don't know, I'll believe

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 1>it that. Okay, Okay, Actually I have one more question

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:30.840
<v Speaker 1>that's not here written down, but I need to ask

0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it because somebody asked me this and it was so good.

0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:38.600
<v Speaker 1>What is something about you that people know about you

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 1>that you wish they didn't Oh? Man, well, I'm like

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 1>an open book. So everything I say it just like

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like I throw it out there regardless, something that

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 1>people know I wish they didn't know. I don't know.

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll say the freestyle rapping, because now everybody wants

0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:02.600
<v Speaker 1>me to rap on their like in podcast or in interviews,

0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, it was mainly a joke. Although my teammates,

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 1>my teammates in college and when I briefly was an

0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>NFL people back me up like I brought it, Like

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I definitely brought the energy. But now it's like it's

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 1>people like they expect me to be really good. I'm like,

0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't sound it was good at freestyle and I

0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:18.280
<v Speaker 1>just said I'd like to do it. Do you want

0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:20.520
<v Speaker 1>to do? You want to do it? Right? Now see

0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:26.800
<v Speaker 1>now was coming get on cameo and people. Yeah, birthday raps,

0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:30.640
<v Speaker 1>they can order Christmas raps, Valentine's Day raps. Oh, I

0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:32.000
<v Speaker 1>can bring it. Yeah, I get if I get to

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.880
<v Speaker 1>pick my own beats. Yeah, those are big words for

0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody who keeps saying they can bring it and then

0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 1>they won't do it on our podcast. I'm a little

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:44.080
<v Speaker 1>bit offended the story and I was. I was viving

0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:46.240
<v Speaker 1>with it. It was pretty good. Okay, thank you. Yeah,

0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was decent. I had brought that out

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the wood works after shelving it for for a year

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 1>or two, Like I used to bust it out a

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 1>lot more of it. I'm happing. You know, we're going

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to have you on Boucher Happier or again, I'm sure

0:59:57.240 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 1>for the finale, So be prepared you we're going to

1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:05.040
<v Speaker 1>have to freestyle rap with categories of our choosing okay,

1:00:05.520 --> 1:00:08.320
<v Speaker 1>all your season really, Oh my gosh, that's like for

1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:11.040
<v Speaker 1>good rappers. Good rappers can do that. Here, we'll prep

1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you a good well, I'll send them to you in advance. Yeah,

1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:19.120
<v Speaker 1>we'll ask we will ask our followers for different category suggestions,

1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll each pick two that you have to

1:00:22.240 --> 1:00:25.520
<v Speaker 1>wrap too. Okay, you got a couple of weeks, so

1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you got time, Todd. Are you guys going to beat

1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:31.160
<v Speaker 1>box for me? Oh yeah, well we will work the beatbox. Okay,

1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:33.240
<v Speaker 1>if you guys beat if you guys beat box or

1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:35.640
<v Speaker 1>get me just any type of beat. I cannot do it. Acapella,

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:38.320
<v Speaker 1>please do put me through that. We can do it.

1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:40.200
<v Speaker 1>It was like, I'm not part of this. I will

1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:43.560
<v Speaker 1>throw it up on YouTube. It's a team efforts. If

1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:45.280
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna put me on the spot, we're putting you

1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:47.960
<v Speaker 1>guys on the spot. Okay, okay, we're all in this

1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:56.120
<v Speaker 1>to get on the side. We're gonna be having a

1:00:56.840 --> 1:01:03.840
<v Speaker 1>traditional Oh my schedule will be blocked off. Clayton, this

1:01:03.880 --> 1:01:06.560
<v Speaker 1>has been such a pleasure having you on. I'm glad

1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that we just got to know you so much more,

1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:12.280
<v Speaker 1>how you're handling this new world that you found yourself

1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:15.000
<v Speaker 1>in social media, all of that. Before we let you go,

1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:17.720
<v Speaker 1>we ask all of our guests this, it's our number

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:21.880
<v Speaker 1>one burning question so far. What has been your rose

1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and what has been your thorn as your time as

1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the bachelor? So, oh gosh, it's like pretty reflective, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be fine. It can be light or I

1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:36.320
<v Speaker 1>would say, yeah. The rose would be everyone that I've

1:01:36.400 --> 1:01:39.000
<v Speaker 1>met along the way has truly impacted me in a

1:01:39.040 --> 1:01:41.840
<v Speaker 1>way where I am forever thankful and I've grown so

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<v Speaker 1>much as an individual, and so that's definitely the rose.

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<v Speaker 1>The thorn would be my curiosity, which will kill me

1:01:50.080 --> 1:01:52.400
<v Speaker 1>at some point if I don't step step away from

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<v Speaker 1>everything and just take a breather. Yes, good ones, good ones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Clayton, thank you for joining us. I can't

1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:01.480
<v Speaker 1>wait to have you back. Can't we to just watch

1:02:01.520 --> 1:02:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you as your story unfolds. Yes, we are thoroughly enjoying

1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:07.560
<v Speaker 1>your season. And I know that there are so many

1:02:07.600 --> 1:02:10.120
<v Speaker 1>trolls out there, but just know that you have two

1:02:10.200 --> 1:02:12.880
<v Speaker 1>huge fans right here. Well, thank you so much. It's

1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:14.560
<v Speaker 1>so fun talking to you all. I obviously ran out

1:02:14.560 --> 1:02:16.760
<v Speaker 1>of time. We're all long winded for the most part,

1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:19.040
<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure I'll talk to you guys again. But

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<v Speaker 1>thank you guys. It was really fun. Thanks Clayton, good

1:02:21.080 --> 1:02:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to see you. Thanks Clayton, A yell again, I mean

1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:27.240
<v Speaker 1>next time. Oh, he is such a pleasure. See this

1:02:27.320 --> 1:02:31.120
<v Speaker 1>is I hope people listening in enjoy these sorts of podcasts,

1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:34.120
<v Speaker 1>because now you can't say you don't know who Clayton is.

1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:36.080
<v Speaker 1>We just handed him. Do you want to platter people?

1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've met him before, I've watched this season,

1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:42.520
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like just in this last hour, we

1:02:42.560 --> 1:02:45.560
<v Speaker 1>have learned so much more about him. He is his

1:02:45.720 --> 1:02:48.480
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the drama this season, and I like him

1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:51.120
<v Speaker 1>even more now I do too, and he what I

1:02:51.160 --> 1:02:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like after chatting with him is you know, yeah, he's

1:02:53.480 --> 1:02:55.720
<v Speaker 1>been getting backlash and he's been having to deal with

1:02:55.760 --> 1:03:00.240
<v Speaker 1>people saying some terrible things. But he seems so self aware,

1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Like he seems he recognizes issues or areas maybe in

1:03:05.160 --> 1:03:07.320
<v Speaker 1>which he didn't perform at his best, or he would

1:03:07.360 --> 1:03:09.800
<v Speaker 1>have done something different, but he realizes that and he's like,

1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I would have done that differently, or I take myself

1:03:13.240 --> 1:03:15.640
<v Speaker 1>or I hold myself accountable for that whatever it might be,

1:03:15.720 --> 1:03:18.439
<v Speaker 1>which is I think very refreshing because enough people don't

1:03:18.480 --> 1:03:21.280
<v Speaker 1>do that, I would say. So it seems like he's

1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:23.440
<v Speaker 1>taking this all in stride. I know it's not easy

1:03:23.840 --> 1:03:27.160
<v Speaker 1>to be going through what he's going through, especially when

1:03:27.200 --> 1:03:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the season is so early on. I mean, we still

1:03:29.320 --> 1:03:32.360
<v Speaker 1>have weeks to see this entire journey with him and

1:03:32.400 --> 1:03:34.800
<v Speaker 1>all of these women. So there's a lot more that

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<v Speaker 1>we still have yet to learn. Serena, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap this up by asking you, because we always ask

1:03:41.640 --> 1:03:43.240
<v Speaker 1>our guests this, but I feel like we should just

1:03:43.280 --> 1:03:45.960
<v Speaker 1>start answering it on our own too because it's so important.

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<v Speaker 1>But so far this season, what has been your rose

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<v Speaker 1>and what has been your thorn? Oof? That's a toughie, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me think I'll start with the thorn. I think

1:03:57.960 --> 1:04:02.320
<v Speaker 1>the moment this season that really impacted me in a

1:04:02.440 --> 1:04:08.360
<v Speaker 1>negative way the most was watching Cheney talk very openly

1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and negatively about Elizabeth's ADHD. That was really disappointing to watch.

1:04:14.920 --> 1:04:17.280
<v Speaker 1>And I hope that she has watched it back and

1:04:17.400 --> 1:04:21.280
<v Speaker 1>reflected and learned from that. And again shout out to Elizabeth.

1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I know I talked about her last him on the podcast,

1:04:23.400 --> 1:04:26.200
<v Speaker 1>but she handled that so well. And then I think,

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<v Speaker 1>my rose, I'm gonna have to go. And I know

1:04:30.840 --> 1:04:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that this is kind of like not fully a moment

1:04:34.640 --> 1:04:37.000
<v Speaker 1>on the show, but I just love the memes this season.

1:04:37.200 --> 1:04:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I love every season, but like we're episode two, the

1:04:40.160 --> 1:04:43.000
<v Speaker 1>show has been so wild already and the memes have

1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:47.280
<v Speaker 1>been popping off. I meanter now, so like I'm scrolling

1:04:47.280 --> 1:04:50.280
<v Speaker 1>through as well, and oh my gosh, it's just it's

1:04:50.320 --> 1:04:53.960
<v Speaker 1>just chaos already. It is it is castle already. I

1:04:54.040 --> 1:04:56.960
<v Speaker 1>would have to agree about the thorn. I definitely would

1:04:56.960 --> 1:05:00.440
<v Speaker 1>have to say just seeing the conversation between Shane and

1:05:00.440 --> 1:05:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth about the ADHD has been it was very disheartening,

1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:06.440
<v Speaker 1>but I hope again everyone can learn. I would also

1:05:06.600 --> 1:05:09.880
<v Speaker 1>say overall a thorn, So I'm just gonna leave it

1:05:11.400 --> 1:05:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the same as you and I would say my rose

1:05:14.840 --> 1:05:17.360
<v Speaker 1>right now is just it seems like it's a lot

1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:22.240
<v Speaker 1>of firsts again. And I will say because it seems

1:05:22.280 --> 1:05:24.320
<v Speaker 1>like we're finally back at the mansion. There's like this

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<v Speaker 1>new zest in the group of women when they finally

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<v Speaker 1>move in, and it's Clayton's first time there, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>his first time watching any of this back. It just

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like there's like these special magical moments that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we were kind of like a missing energy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have a new host who's bringing this

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<v Speaker 1>whole new life to the show as well, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been fun. So I would say that it is just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun first and I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>show's kind of coming back to what it once was,

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<v Speaker 1>which I appreciate. Yeah. So, ladies and gents, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>all for tuning in again this week. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>being with me again, Serena. It's always such a blast

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I absolutely love it. And an even bigger

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to all of our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>much again for having me Becca. Thank you to our

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful guest Clayton. He was such a great time to

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<v Speaker 1>interview and thank you to our listeners. We are excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see you next week, Bie guys. M