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Speaker 1: Welcome back Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. It's good to be

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Speaker 1: back with you. I know this week is a little

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Speaker 1: off because obviously we did not have an episode of

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor last night, so we have no recap, which

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Speaker 1: is totally fine because we still have a great episode

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Speaker 1: coming up for you today. Yes, I definitely missed The

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Speaker 1: Bachelor this week, but I am so excited for today's

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Speaker 1: episode because Bachelor Nation, we have heard you when you

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Speaker 1: have said who is Clayton? We know nothing about him?

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Speaker 1: So guess what. The Bachelor himself is here today and

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Speaker 1: we cannot wait for you to all get to know

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Speaker 1: him a little bit better. Yes, the time has finally

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Speaker 1: come for us to give all of you people what

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Speaker 1: you want. Not only do we have his season to

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Speaker 1: talk with him about, but we also, if you don't remember,

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Speaker 1: never had him on during Michelle's season, So we have

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Speaker 1: a full recap with Clayton himself. We'll get into Michelle's season,

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Speaker 1: his time on her season, we'll get into his season.

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Speaker 1: But also there's just so much for him, so much

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Speaker 1: more for us to know about him as listeners. So

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Speaker 1: today we have a full episode. We'll get into all

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Speaker 1: of the tea, we'll get to know Clayton for who

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Speaker 1: he really is, what he thinks about this crazy world.

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Speaker 1: And I just have to say, let's just get into it. Serena, Huh,

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Speaker 1: I am so ready. Let's bring on the Bachelor. I

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Speaker 1: just want all of our listeners to know the real Clayton.

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Speaker 1: This is why we're having you here on Bachelor Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour today is to get to know you. Because we've

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Speaker 1: had so many people out there be like, who's Clayton?

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Speaker 1: We know nothing about him? While ladies and gents, today

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Speaker 1: is the day we now know that Clayton eats about

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Speaker 1: a thousand pounds in chipole a week. He's got a

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Speaker 1: Chipotle card well on the way. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: hang out with you when that finally comes. If I'm

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Speaker 1: the Chipotle order like the person that works there and

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Speaker 1: I'm taking your order, Like hi, Clayton, Like what can

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Speaker 1: I get you today? I got this down like to

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Speaker 1: a science. I would like two bulls ago with two

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Speaker 1: Both bulls will be the same. I get white rice

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Speaker 1: extra right rice, white rice, extra fahita, veggies, no beans,

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Speaker 1: half chicken, half steak, pico de gaio, corn, guac, lettuce,

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Speaker 1: and that's it. Yeah, the extra fahita veggis that is

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Speaker 1: that is a move. That's a pro move. Clean. How

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Speaker 1: long have you been ordering this same thing from Chipotle?

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Speaker 1: Leave this in the podcast? Leave this in here? Ever

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Speaker 1: since I stopped, or ever since I graduated college. So

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Speaker 1: it's been I'm on six years now. The second I

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Speaker 1: want to no, no, Okay, So if you you obviously

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Speaker 1: are no longer in the NFL, you ordered two of

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Speaker 1: these bowls? How many times a week would you say? Well,

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Speaker 1: it probably probably once a week, maybe sometimes twice if

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling I treat myself a little bit. Okay, if

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Speaker 1: you eat this much right now, how much were you

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Speaker 1: eating when you played football? I would easily put down

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Speaker 1: two bowls when I was playing football one meal, like

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Speaker 1: you going to actually eat both of those? And then

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Speaker 1: I would just proceed to like not breathe and just

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Speaker 1: But I guess so whole that half your size. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everyone thinks that it sounds so great, but it's like

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Speaker 1: in also coming out. Wow, yeah, just whole new side?

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Speaker 1: Do you clean? I have? I don't hold back clean.

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Speaker 1: I like you. You seem like a great guy. You're

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Speaker 1: the reason why I never want to have boys because

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Speaker 1: they eat so freaking much. Like I used to date

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Speaker 1: probably a post date meal the way out. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: literally people will see me like when I was at

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Speaker 1: my work when I worked medical sales, I'd bring this

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Speaker 1: picturing like Gain melf In, Lord of the Rings with

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Speaker 1: a stick like thou shall not pass you intern of

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Speaker 1: your chipole bowl. Oh yeah, I've had I even had

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Speaker 1: a couple of times people like can I try that?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I feel like we could talk about

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Speaker 1: food and chipol all day, all day. I hope we

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Speaker 1: were recording all of this first and foremost we want

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Speaker 1: to welcome you officially to Batch your Happy Hour because

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Speaker 1: this is your first time here, so welcome. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for having me. I'm excited. Yes, we could talk

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Speaker 1: so we can try to touch on those other dimensions

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Speaker 1: outside of the whole foodie I love it well. So

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you mentioned the other dimensions because we'll

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Speaker 1: get into all of the fun stuff of your time

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Speaker 1: on Michelle season of your own season, but before that,

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Speaker 1: you've kind of, I mean, you've really had such a

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Speaker 1: So there's so much that you've missed. This is really

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Speaker 1: And to both of your points, I mean, if anyone

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Speaker 1: but in less Clayton, as you were saying, and less

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Speaker 1: and really brings that to light. And so that's what

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Speaker 1: to anyone who listens to the podcast, like Clinton, you

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Speaker 1: or expectations. You're just doing the best you can. So

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Speaker 1: they found out a few days before they showed up

429
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: on you for the limos, And I found like early

430
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: on our conversations the women would be asking, you know,

431
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: like we'll tell me about you, but I would switch

432
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 1: it back on them because I knew, like night one,

433
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: I had five maybe at most five minutes with some

434
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 1: of these women, so I would switch it right back. Well,

435
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: I'd be like, okay, hey, like you know, I'll answer

436
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: the question. Then I would go right back to but like, hey,

437
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: like so tell me about you know, kind of like

438
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: what you've done, what you did prior, how did you

439
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: get here? Like I wanted to get to know them

440
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 1: as much as possible, because again that night, the first night,

441
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 1: you sent home like seven women. So you know, for me,

442
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: it's like I need to know as much as I

443
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 1: can know about someone in five minutes so that I'm

444
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 1: not sending somebody home. Potentially that could be like the

445
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: perfect match for me, I just missed out on maybe

446
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: like getting the right like the little tidbits that I

447
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 1: needed to make a conscious decision. And the fact of

448
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: the matter is is like night one, I don't think

449
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 1: I spoke to five or six of the women. You

450
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: just can't get around to all of it regardless. So yeah,

451
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: I found early on I was like, just ask as

452
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: many questions as you can. But that's what people are

453
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: seeing now on TV is the women are doing a

454
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: ton of talking and I'm just over there like, yeah,

455
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,479
Speaker 1: it's because like I'm asking the questions and then I'm

456
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 1: just letting them speak because that's how I was going

457
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: to get to know him so I can make those

458
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: decisions at the end of it all. Two months is

459
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: two months, and I found out two months is plenty

460
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: of time when that's all you have to focus on

461
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: his relationships. But the last thing I wanted was to

462
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: feel like I ran out of time with somebody. I

463
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 1: didn't want that to be the deciding factor, right. And

464
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: I'm sure like coming from because you know, I was

465
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: on Matt season, which was the last season I came

466
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: in as a contestant, and I feel like as a contestant,

467
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 1: you come in and you know, Okay, I might only

468
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: have three to five minutes with this guy tonight, and

469
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: at the end of the night, he has to make

470
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: a decision. So as much as I want to see

471
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: if there's a connection there, I really want to show

472
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: him who I am so I can leave feeling like,

473
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, if it didn't work out, I showed him

474
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: who I am. I shared my story. He got a

475
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: vibe for my person soonality. So, and I mean they've

476
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what the quarantine was like on your season,

477
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: but we were in a room for like five days.

478
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: I mean I was ready to talk for hours when

479
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: I go out of there. So I mean, I'm sure

480
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: you're finding You're asking questions, and these women are excited

481
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: to share with you who they are. Yeah. The big

482
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: thing was again, it's like in the real world, if

483
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: you went out on a date, you would have a

484
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: nice back and forth, you would have you know, you'd

485
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: ask some questions, they'd ask them some questions. Hopefully you

486
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: would get that fifty fifty kind of effort on both sides.

487
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: But in this environment, it's like, you really hope for me.

488
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I was like, listen,

489
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: like hopefully over a time, like you guys will will

490
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: be able to get to know me the longer you're here.

491
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: But like a lot of these conversations are gonna be

492
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: ninety ten, right like you, ninety percent of time you're talking,

493
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm listening that you know, for that ninety percent, and

494
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: then I'm talking for the other ten And it can

495
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: be a lot. It's kind of a it takes a

496
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: little bit of an adjustment period. And I could tell

497
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: like at first kind of women they want to ask

498
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: the questions, but I would just turn it right back

499
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: because again, when I was back on a shell season,

500
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: I felt like I had three minutes and I'm like

501
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: clocks ticking. Second I sat down, I was like, all right, Michelle,

502
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm a medical sales I played football like I was

503
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: just like firing off bullet points. And it felt kind

504
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: of forced. And I remember walking out of that first

505
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: conversation with her being like, yeah, I feel like I

506
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: just read my resume to her like that was it.

507
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any personality involved. I just

508
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: straight up read it off. But that's kind of again,

509
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: three minutes boom, next guy could come of walking in

510
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: smiling and you're like, all right, well there goes that

511
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: speed dating. Yes, yes, very much so well, And what

512
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: people need to keep in mind is we're only two

513
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: weeks in, Like, we've only seen two episodes, so of

514
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: course it's going to be more getting to know all

515
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: of these women. As time goes on and as the

516
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: cast goes down and you have more intimate one on

517
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: one time with most of these women, We're going to

518
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: see you more. We're going to see more of your personality,

519
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: more of the conversations, more of that banter, more of

520
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: these connections form. We've only seen two episodes and this

521
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: week unfortunately didn't get one, so that will come. I

522
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: know it seems like a lot right now, and a

523
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: lot of those comments about you know, you not doing enough,

524
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: for being too much of this or that, whatever it

525
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 1: might be. But let it breathe everyone again, give him

526
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: some time, give him some patience. It's not easy being

527
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, I know, as fun as it is dating

528
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: thirty people. Clayton, how difficult was it? Truly? Extremely difficult? Again,

529
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that I wanted to early on was like, okay,

530
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: don't forget names and don't mix up stories, because the

531
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is go into a

532
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: conversation and be like, yeah, remember when you told me

533
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: about that experience you had so and so, And she's like,

534
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: that was one of the other girls, Like you don't

535
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: want to you don't want that to happen, Like I

536
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 1: think you're talking about one of the other women. So

537
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: early on, I'm like, just get the stories straight. Make

538
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: sure that like you're being the best listener possible, because again,

539
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: like that's important for relationship. I think I've seen studies

540
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: where it's like people that are great listeners tend to

541
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: be more well liked because again it's like everyone likes

542
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: to feel like they're being heard. And that to me again,

543
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: as I've seen in the medical profession sales, it's like

544
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: everyone loves to talk about themselves, so you know, lend

545
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: that ear to them, and that's how you get to

546
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, people will give up so much information about

547
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: themselves if you just sit there and actively listen, and

548
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: so I try to do that. But with thirty women,

549
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: it's like there's thirty different personalities. And as I'm seeing

550
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: from just the first two episodes, I was like, man,

551
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: I live this experience, but when I'm seeing almost feels

552
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: like an entirely new experience because I didn't know this

553
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: was happening, and I do actually want to address something

554
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: head on right now because I've seen it. It's kind

555
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: of been bubbling up on social media and it was

556
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: frustrating for me to watch as well, this is kind

557
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: of pertaining to this is pertaining to Elizabeth and shine

558
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: that drama. I didn't realize that sheney that you went

559
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: after her to the degree that she did about her

560
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: at ADHD. I don't condone that behavior at all. It

561
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: was very upsetting for me to watch and realize that

562
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: someone would make a joke out of someone having a deficit,

563
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: and that was something where again for me seeing for

564
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: the first time, I was frustrated by it because I

565
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: don't think that anybody should be doing that, coming after

566
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: someone for something that again like they were born with

567
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: their have and they have to deal with on a

568
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: daily basis. I also am very impressed by what I'm

569
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: seeing from Elizabeth. I know she's now using her platform

570
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: for good, but yeah, you know, you see these aspects

571
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: of the show that like I didn't know we're happening,

572
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: We're occurring, and it's again it's eye opening and but

573
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: That's where again I go back to people say why

574
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: didn't you react to this, and it's like, I didn't

575
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: know the severity of the situation, and unfortunately it did

576
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: occur as we've all we all saw and now it's

577
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: like okay, people like are saying, like, how can you

578
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: keep someone around like this? It's like, just again, I

579
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: keep in mind that if I'm not there on screen,

580
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not there, which means I'm not privy to it.

581
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: But I just I just actually just wanted to bring

582
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: that up because again, I think it's important for people

583
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: to understand that, like I personally don't support that kind

584
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: of behavior coming after somebody for for deficit so that

585
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: they may have that they're working their best to overcome,

586
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: and especially through on a national platform. I can only imagine,

587
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, what Elizabeth was going through, having to have

588
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: that cast out not only to the women but to

589
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: the entire world. I think she's doing a great job

590
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: of it, and I'm glad to see that she's being

591
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: able to find some positive avenues to drive this focus towards,

592
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, fostering some good discussion and putting like this

593
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: all towards a fundraiser. Thank you for bringing that up.

594
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: That's a good point, and that's something that Serena and

595
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: I had touched on last week on the podcast, and

596
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: obviously it was a big conversation in the episode that

597
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: we saw last week. So I appreciate you taking this

598
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: time and some moments to speak on that. Absolutely. Yeah, yes,

599
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: and I do think you know, it's only been two episodes.

600
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: You clearly haven't been afraid to take the steps to

601
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: send people home and when we saw it in the

602
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: first episode with Claire, So I think everyone can just

603
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: be a little patient with you. Give you some grace.

604
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: I think you can give yourself some grace. You're doing

605
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: a fantastic job, and just let the season unfold. You know,

606
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot more of you, a

607
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: lot more drama, and I'm sure there's gonna be tons

608
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: of opportunities for you to get friends and situations, both

609
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: on the show and through the podcast. Yeah, patience is key,

610
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: and that's where like, even me, I'm like, Clayton, be patient.

611
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: You know how this story unfull is, And yet you're

612
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: the one who's like, now like listening to all these

613
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: comments and being like I'm getting impatient. I just want

614
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: this to happen, and it's like, oh, like, just give it.

615
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: There's plenty. You got eight more episodes, havery more episodes

616
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: I've had. This story will unfold the truth. Let it breathe,

617
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: Let it breathe, baby, let's get Let's just bring it

618
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: back to the very very beginning, because obviously, again we

619
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: didn't have you on Michelle's season on our podcast to

620
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: talk through anything to get to know you. So I

621
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: want to know because I don't think you'd ever watched

622
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: the show before. So how did you get cast on

623
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: Michelle season? I was reached out to on social media.

624
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: Funny enough, I think I made like an Instagram. I

625
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: think it's just a year ago that I made one,

626
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: just because it seemed like all my friends had funneled

627
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: away from f book. So I felt that I was

628
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: out of the loop. And so I was like, I

629
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: have to download Instagram. I remember trying to creep on Instagram,

630
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: like go on like instagram dot com. I didn't. I

631
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: didn't want to actually download the app. And then I

632
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: realized you have to download the app to see the content.

633
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: So I made the Instagram and then, yeah, I was

634
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: reached out to that way, and of course I thought

635
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: it was fake and I was like, Okay, this is

636
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Brye some spam. But but yeah, that was there. Was

637
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: reached out to that way and just kept going step

638
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: by step through the process and now all the way

639
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: on this side of it. So wait, you know, come

640
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: full circle. I have to know. So you don't let

641
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: an Instagram about a year ago, but you like you've

642
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: lived your single tunnies, did you have girls comment on

643
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: the fact that you didn't have Instagram, Because frankly, when

644
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: I was dating, if someone was like, oh I don't

645
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: have Instagram, I'm like, Okay, either you're a creep or

646
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: you're lying and I'm gonna find you you're a serial killer. Yeah,

647
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: I had a lot of Yeah, I've had like a

648
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: few women that they brought it to my attention to

649
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 1: there like yeah, I definitely sent my location to my

650
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: friends because I couldn't find many pictures of you because

651
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: you just have a Facebook and that's about it. And obviously,

652
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: like some of the dating apps, like I had my

653
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: few pictures, but they couldn't like go and see yeah,

654
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: like his Instagram, Like why is this guy to have

655
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: an Instagram? Is this really him? Like all those questions

656
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: I had and it was never enough for me to

657
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I need to make an Instagram because

658
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: my character was being questioned or even my identity. But certainly, yeah,

659
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: that was a conversation I've had a couple of times. Well,

660
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: the good thing is going on the Bachelorette. There's no phone,

661
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: so you don't even need Instagram. But I mean, we

662
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of you on Michelle season. Do

663
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: you want to just touch on how your experience was

664
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: on the show? I mean we saw your journey, looked

665
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: like you were growing feelings for Michelle and obviously it

666
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: didn't work out. Yeah, it was That was really the

667
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: whole experience helped second way me very well into the

668
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: role as the bachelor, and it was a lot with

669
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: having to do with like not only Michelle, but the

670
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: other guys as well. I was blown away by the

671
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: quality of men that they brought on. There were so

672
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: many of them that had very successful backgrounds, They had

673
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence. They just were very comfortable in

674
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: their own skin, and that was something that I struggled

675
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: with definitely coming into it. I you know, being in Columbia,

676
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: Missouri and dating dating, it's like if you're kind of

677
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: like you can be a big fish in a small

678
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: pond per se. But then all of a sudden, you

679
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: go and you can get these guys that are all

680
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: like they picked from all across the country and they

681
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: were really just like incredible human beings that I started

682
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: seeing my confidence start to waver coming on the show.

683
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: First person I saw was Nate. I remember that was

684
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: the first person that I saw, and I'm like, he's

685
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: six foot eight, good looking guy, and I'm like, oh

686
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: my gosh, Like I'm gonna be like it's gonna be

687
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: a whole basketball team of guys and I'm gonna be

688
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: the shorty at six foot five, and so yeah, it

689
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: was like a shock to me. And then I started

690
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: talking to the guys getting to know them, and the

691
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: whole experience really allowed me to step back and I

692
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: had a lot of help from the guys who talked

693
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: to me one on one. More than a few guys

694
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: reached out obviously or we're actively helping me along the way.

695
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: You know. I roomed with Brandon on the tail end

696
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: of the show, and I mean we bonded so hard,

697
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: like in those you know, that week or so that

698
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: I was there as his roommate because we just talked

699
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: about life. We sat up, we called a pillow talk,

700
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: and we would have talked for like three or four

701
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: hours and then up being wiped out the next day, like, hey,

702
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: did you have three to four hours to talk? I

703
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: feel like we got no time alone, no time to sleep.

704
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: How did you squeeze in those hours? Well, we would

705
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: get That's the thing. We would get, like we would

706
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: get maybe five hours to sleep and we would talk

707
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: for three, so we'd end up getting two hours. And

708
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: I would always be like, Brandon, I'm going to that.

709
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: He's like nah Man's pillow talk time. And I was like,

710
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so cute. But He's I grew

711
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: very quickly. I was like, this, guys is incredible. He

712
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: taught me a lot. He taught me the power of

713
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: just like if you really care about somebody, go above

714
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: and beyond right. He was a big note writer. He

715
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: truly was like any moment I could get with her,

716
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: like I want to show her that I care. And

717
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: that's where he showed me, like, hey, write a note,

718
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: whatever you can do, go the extra step to show

719
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: somebody that you truly care about him. He got me

720
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: into journaling. That was so critical. On my side of

721
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: things where I used that as much as I could

722
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: because I didn't have friends of family around, so I'd

723
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: be writing that and that would help just put my

724
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: thoughts on paper and help me decompress. And then the

725
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: big thing with Michelle was she opened me back up

726
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: to fully tearing down my walls and realizing, like, you

727
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: want this relationship more than anything, like you want to

728
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: be happy with one person, like your single life that

729
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: you went through wasn't giving you that. And it came

730
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: down to that last date. I was very I was

731
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: still very guarded going into that last date with Michelle,

732
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: like I was slow to open up. And as we

733
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: saw in the season, I saw it my conversations with

734
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: her weren't as deep. They're more surface level versus other

735
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: guys because I was just very cautious. But I got

736
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: into that last date and the museum day, it was

737
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: so much fun. It was just like it really showed

738
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: me like I was able to start opening up to her,

739
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: and then by the end of it, I'm like, wow,

740
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: like I actually feel something special here, Like there's a

741
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: like we're taking it to the next step as far

742
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: as this relationship. I haven't done this in a why

743
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: every time I get to this point with somebody in

744
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: the past, I would shut down because I you know,

745
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: I had my own battle scars from my previous relationship

746
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 1: that I was in, and so i'd use you would

747
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: shut off. But I just kept pushing forward with Michelle,

748
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: and yeah, and then she opened me up. Obviously, then

749
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: she sent me home right after that point, but she

750
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: told me, you know, hey, stay true to yourself and

751
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: don't close back off. Promised me that, and I didn't,

752
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: and that's what allowed me then to go into the

753
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: Bachelor and come in more open than I had been

754
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: really since my previous wayship six years ago. Yeah. So,

755
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure your answers are going to be vastly different

756
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: from Michelle's season versus your own season. But during your

757
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: time on Michelle's season, were there any moments in particular

758
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: that really stand out to you that were especially great

759
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: or challenging you se on michelle season? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

760
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: we're very challenging. Um, I think not one thing stands

761
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: out off the top of my head. I think because

762
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: that's the whole experience was challenging. So night one I

763
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: thought about going home like six times. I was like,

764
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: what are you doing here. You don't belong these Some

765
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: of these guys are huge characters, like what did you

766
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: get yourself into? And so it was challenging in that

767
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: respect for me. Then for the first week or so,

768
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: I think I was in my shell. And that's where

769
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: it's like when it came into conversations with Michelle, I

770
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: would I was kind of guarded and I was just

771
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: trying to get to know her, but she was asking

772
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: me a lot of questions, and I remember trying to

773
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: like ask her more questions, but she would push it

774
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: back to me the same way that I did when

775
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: I was I was the lead as well. It's like

776
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: the lead tries to push the questions onto the women

777
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: to get to know them or the men. But I

778
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: was just trying to figure everything out. And I look

779
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: back at that now and I don't know. I'm like,

780
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: did should I have watched priory sees? Like would that

781
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: have helped give me an idea? I don't know if

782
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: I'll ever have the answer to that, because I went

783
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: in with just like basically with the blinders on, kind

784
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: of went in like all right here, I Am like,

785
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna just have fun with it all and make

786
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: this as authentic as possible. I still don't know to

787
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: this day if that was beneficial or not, but it

788
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: definitely made it challenging because everything was new to me,

789
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: and so when I go into new environments, I get

790
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: very quiet and I just take in as much as

791
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: I can. Like that's because I'm like, don't open your

792
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: mouth and be a fool. Like there's some famous quote

793
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: or something I loved, like someone reference to me, like

794
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: better for people to think you're a fool than to

795
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: open your mouth and remove all doubts, And that was

796
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: like what I thought going into I'm like, do not

797
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: just take it all in and then you'll start to

798
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: open up as time goes on. So but with that, yeah,

799
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: everything was challenging on Michelle season. It was all just

800
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: brand new. Well to your point, and this is something

801
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: that Serena and I had talked about it. I believe

802
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: what in our first episode of your season with Jesse

803
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: Palmer is because you win in not watching previous seasons.

804
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: You didn't have a game plan, you didn't have this

805
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: rule book or notes on what to do or what

806
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: not to do or when to say certain things, which

807
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: for me personally as a viewer, I find very endearing.

808
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's that's not necessarily the case

809
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: because I think so many people that tend to go

810
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: on the show now are fans. They kind of know

811
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: how each season works, what happens when, what you should

812
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: do in certain situations, and for you, you're kind of

813
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: just like going with the wind and going, you know,

814
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: wherever it takes you, and which I will say, I

815
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: love that you are able to ask more questions, especially

816
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: with Jesse, of like has this happened before? How what

817
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: do you do in this case? Like any advice, which

818
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I think it's more fresh and refreshing for me, I

819
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, I And I think some people do

820
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: see that as like why, like what is this guy doing?

821
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: Does he not know how it works? It's like no, no, no,

822
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't like it's all as people will see, and

823
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: I'll be able to talk on some of these things

824
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: more as they pop up. But some of the things

825
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 1: that happened I remember just like looking over at Jesse

826
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: or whoever and be like is this for real? Like

827
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: this can we do this? Like? And I think people

828
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: have already seen that in teasers like with me be like,

829
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, what are your thoughts on this can I

830
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: do this? Because every day I would just like wake

831
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: up and then I'd be like, okay, like let's go

832
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: about my day, and all of a sudden this happened.

833
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, is this par for the course? Yeah?

834
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: Apparently it is. But I didn't want to be influenced

835
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: by the outside world or any external factors that would

836
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: cause me to change who I was. And for that, yeah,

837
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: I can say that through the entire experience, I was

838
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: one hundred percent myself and took those course of actions

839
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: that I thought were best. But had I'd watched prior seasons,

840
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: might I had went about it differently and maybe made

841
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: some better decisions potentially. Yes, I just that that's a

842
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: huge one if game that you can you'll never win

843
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: trying to flight. Yeah, And I think, as much as

844
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of a cheesy thing to say, the best

845
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: thing you can do going on any of these shows

846
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: is to just be yourself. And it's it's so corny,

847
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: but it is true because that is how you're going

848
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: to give yourself the best chance at finding a connection

849
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: or realizing that that's not the connection for you. And

850
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: I think whether you go and blind going in as

851
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: a fan you know, that brings out the most genuine people,

852
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: and that's how people find love. And I think that's

853
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: why you know, people like you, Clayton. You you were

854
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: a hundred percent yourself on michelle season, and that's why

855
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: we see all of the men from that season really

856
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: rooting for you. And Michelle as well has been so

857
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: open about like her admiration for you and her excitement

858
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: around you being the Bachelor. So you have a lot

859
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: of support and I think that just speaks to the

860
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: fact that you were so yourself and genuine on you know,

861
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: Michelle's season. We are seeing that from you on this season.

862
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think there was a lot of

863
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: excitement from your cast about you being the Bachelor. What

864
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: was your reaction when you got the call? I mean,

865
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: where you sup? I had to feel it was a

866
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: good thing that I was sitting down, because I just

867
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: I would have probably just like you know, I was

868
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: so in shock when I got when I got the call,

869
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: and I think again, it happened so quickly. I went

870
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: from Michelle's season to mine a month later. And what

871
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: was great about it was like talking to the women,

872
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I was just in your shoes,

873
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: like I was literally in your shoes not even a

874
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: month ago, and that really helped, I think quell a

875
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: lot of that early on. I think there was a

876
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: lot of that nervousness with these women, but they I

877
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: like quickly. I think it calmed them down by being like, hey,

878
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm just as nervous, like I am not that far

879
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: moved from it, and I have no pro by any means,

880
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, to be had to have them bring that

881
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: to me, it meant so much because it was not

882
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: only humbling, but I was just very thankful to be

883
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: even considered had I not even had end up getting

884
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: the role as the bachelor, Like just for them to say, hey, like,

885
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: we like you, we think you're a good guy, and

886
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: we're considering you for this, it was I think reflective

887
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: upon me as far as letting me know, Okay, you're

888
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: doing some things right, you're a good guy and people

889
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: see that. And that's again, I've always been a people pleaser.

890
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: That's just my personality. I always try to make people

891
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 1: happy before I make myself happy. You got to find

892
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: that balance, for sure, But that's where it's Yeah, it's

893
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: the challenge. It's like I know that the producers saw

894
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: this in me, and that's why they gave me the opportunity.

895
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: And now I'm hoping that most people will see that

896
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: long term once this is all done again. Everyone needs

897
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: to have some patience, and I think it will come

898
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: around that way. But yeah, I mean an absolute shock. You. Obviously,

899
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: I thought my journey was over on Michelle's side, and

900
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go back and make

901
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: some changes in my life. I just didn't realize the

902
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: changes would be as magnanimous. Well, I have to say,

903
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: I thought it was very, very cute the little clip

904
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: at the beginning of your season where you went and

905
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: you told your mom, yeah, oh, yeah, she is a

906
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: major bachelor Bachelor family. She's been she's been with the

907
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: franchise since the beginning of time, and so she yeah,

908
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: she was completely caught off guard. I came in on

909
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: like a Tuesday, because normally it was summertime when I

910
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: told her, and towards the end of it, and I

911
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: would usually come back in the weekends to go on

912
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: the boat with my parents, so I could just sit

913
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: out on the boat and relax under the sun. It

914
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: was great. And I came back on like a Tuesday

915
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: at night and she's like, what are you doing there?

916
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, I commented her breathe. She started getting breathing

917
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: really heavily. I'm like, oh my gosh, i'mna have to

918
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: hold her. She's going to pass out on camera here.

919
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, just as everyone saw, like, my mom is

920
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: so very supportive, so excited, she's always texting me. But

921
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, the sad part about it is she's taking

922
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: all of this criticism worse than I am. And so

923
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: that's been actually very you know for me, I haven't

924
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: been too excited about that. It's like I've taken in

925
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: a certain way. But like my mom really really is

926
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: struggling with it, and I tell her to get off

927
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: social media and she can't do it either. She's like

928
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: so curious, but it's driving her absolutely wild. And I

929
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: think that's just where I if anyone watches this and

930
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: and thinks about typing a negative comment, I'm like, realize

931
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: that it's not just me that you're affecting, you know,

932
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: it's like it's my loved ones. You're affecting my mom.

933
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: And again, like some of these comments and after the

934
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: show can only show what they can show in two hours,

935
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: so I get it. Like we all know they filmed

936
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: so much, but only like what makes it as one

937
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: percent of what was filmed. But sometimes it's like okay,

938
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: Like I recently my brother texted me after this last episode.

939
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, you did a lot of kissing

940
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: on the episode. You didn't really do a lot of talking.

941
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: Like I'm kind of like, like, what are you doing? Man?

942
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: Like you need to be getting to know these women.

943
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: And I remember like that hearing it from a loved one,

944
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: someone who knows me is questioning who I am as

945
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: a person. That hit me really hard. And so it's

946
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: like I think people have to understand, like your words

947
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: do affect me, Like and I'll put a smile on

948
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: and every day I'll start brand new and then start

949
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: the day over and I'll look forward to like what's

950
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: to come. But like those one kind and you think

951
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: it's just one comment, understand that I'm not just reading

952
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: that one comment. I'm reading your comment. I'm reading the

953
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: ten thousand other comments and they all pile on and

954
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: it can be a lot, and it doesn't It can

955
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: really affect someone's mental health, not only mine but my mom's.

956
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: And so yeah, again I go from these tangents because

957
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: I have so much to say as I think about,

958
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: like what all has occurred since I've been the Bachelor.

959
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: But while it has been such a phenomenal experience, while

960
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: it was so exciting to get that call to be

961
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: the next Bachelor, I'm now seeing that the hardest parts

962
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: actually not so much the show's it's the aftermath. It's

963
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: this part of it now watching it with the public. Yeah,

964
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure we can all say this from

965
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: being on several seasons. The filming part is fun, you know.

966
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: Of course, there's drama and there's there's a lot of stress,

967
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: and it can be very very difficult, But the airing

968
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: of everything back is when it gets very very difficult.

969
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you touched on the point of

970
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 1: it not only affecting you but your family, because I mean,

971
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: I get it. There's there's a support system, I feel

972
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: like for everyone in bachel Nation with each other who

973
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: have gone through this similar experience, but there's not really

974
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: one for the parents and the siblings and other family members.

975
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: So I want to say, like, if your mom ever

976
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: needs anyone to talk to, my mom is widely available.

977
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: She would love to just give any advice to be

978
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: a shoulder to cry on. Same with Thomas's family, I know.

979
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he was villainized on Katie's season of the Bachelorette,

980
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: and he went through a really hard time and it

981
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: really really affected his mom, it really affected his sister,

982
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: even his brother who had never watched the show before.

983
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: And so everyone just take a second to realize that,

984
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: like again, words do matter, They hold weight, they can

985
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: cut people down, and they can really affect other family

986
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: members who just love and know you for who you are.

987
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: And so I'm glad that you mentioned that because I

988
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: don't think people hear it enough. I don't think people

989
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: remember that enough. It can be very, very difficult. So

990
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: if your mom needs anyone, I'll give her Jill conference number. Okay,

991
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: I do appreciate that, Thank you so much. Yeah, she honestly, Yeah,

992
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: I think she's She's also as leaks go on, I

993
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: think she'll become all get a little more acclimated to it.

994
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: It's just that initial shock. Yeah, And I think over

995
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: time it may get better, make it worse, but I

996
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: will I'll keep that mind because I think it would

997
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: be It's always great to hear from people who have

998
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: experience with it, and I mean, listen, you are the lead,

999
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 1: like you are America's most eligible, eligible bacher right now,

1000
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: and if you're getting you know, hate or crap or

1001
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, all these negative things coming norway. Also remember

1002
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: women on your season and contestants from past seasons, if

1003
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: they're villainized or if they're painted in some sort of

1004
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: bad spotlight, like how difficult it is for them as well?

1005
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: Who aren't the lead? Who aren't you know, beloved and

1006
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: sought after in this moment? It's it's it's a weird

1007
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: world that we all get ourselves into. Um And I'm

1008
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: sure you did a lot after getting that initial call

1009
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: to prep for being the lead, right, Like, there's so

1010
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: much echoes into it, physically, mentally, emotionally. So how did

1011
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: you prepare yourself and get ready for being the Bachelor? Well,

1012
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: like so many things that you said, it physically, mentally, emotionally.

1013
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: I remember, Like physically first off, I was like, guys,

1014
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: we need to get me a sense of style because

1015
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: on Michelle's side of it, oh my gosh, I've had

1016
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: I packed. I remember I had a conversation one night

1017
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: they go, we did you guys at a dress for

1018
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: like a kind of business casual or something on those

1019
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: sides like a date night of fancy date night and

1020
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: I walk out of the hotel out of my room

1021
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: like no, Clayton like we need something for a date.

1022
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, this is what i'd wear

1023
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: like it was just like I remember, it was like

1024
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: a like monarch, like was this like a It was

1025
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: like a plain light green T shirt and I had

1026
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: on these like kind of there are shorts, but they

1027
00:48:52,840 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: were like but they were version yes part yeah. And

1028
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: they are like do you have a dress shirt? And

1029
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 1: I don't think I brought a single dress shirt? Uh there?

1030
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: And they're like what are you doing? I'm like, I don't.

1031
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: When I go on dates, I just wear T shirts

1032
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: or like uh you know, I don't. I don't know

1033
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: it's T shirts. Need to go shopping together. Both Well,

1034
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: listen the good thing about like what happened on on

1035
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: my side of this journey, because on Michelle's side, I

1036
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: think I did wear a pair of jeans one episode.

1037
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: They're like straight dad jeans, not form fitting at all.

1038
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: At least now I will only wear fit of jeans.

1039
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: So that there's been some good that's come out of it.

1040
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: But how you posted like a photo making fun of

1041
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: your style. I forget what you said something about like

1042
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: rich kid with a lawyer dad. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

1043
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I was Again, it was kind of fun

1044
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: because on my side, I told the like, you know,

1045
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: what's your style. I was like, let's just open it up, like,

1046
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 1: let me just wear everything across the board and figure

1047
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: out what it is. I like, uh and so I

1048
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: think if yeah, for watching it now, I realize I'm like,

1049
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: there's like, oh, one one day he's wearing this pole,

1050
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: the next day he's wearing a blazer with a hoodie

1051
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: under it. I was just going. I was just trying

1052
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: to all out because I was like, Hey, this is fun,

1053
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: Like I get to kind of like try on these

1054
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: clothes and see what works best. But yeah, that was

1055
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: like physically, um, you know, I want to get my

1056
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: fashion the fashion down. Another thing too that I uh

1057
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: just joke Joe casually walking in Hey Joe, um and

1058
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: uh No. I also remember as well, I was like

1059
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: I think I was. I was stocking up a little

1060
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: bit as far as I was making sure to eat

1061
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: a little more calories before going into the show because

1062
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: I knew that I probably wasn't going to have the

1063
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: same access to like all the food that I wanted,

1064
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: or like get being able to work out because you

1065
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: have so much of your time is spent, you know,

1066
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: talking with the women that you don't get to have

1067
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: that time to focus on nutrition and exercise. So I

1068
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: bulked up a little bit going into the show, like

1069
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: all these little things I got, like, oh, I know

1070
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: you met with Jason Creole showed out to Jason. Oh

1071
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: my god, he's too Yeah, he told me. Yeah, he's

1072
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: Jason's awesome. He uh Like day one, He's like, Okay,

1073
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: what do you want to work on. I'm like, just

1074
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, some more bodyweight stuff. I'm not a big runner.

1075
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: He's like, well, that's too bad because we're running. So

1076
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: he got me and I love it now. I love it.

1077
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: Like he's got me doing sprints now. Like I've just

1078
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: carried on with like his workouts and yeah, he's great.

1079
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: He's so motival, motivational. He's gonna be so happy he.

1080
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: I would see him after he would train you every

1081
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 1: morning and he'd be like, I just kicked Clayton's ask again,

1082
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: just kicked his ass. My god, a guy, Jason, I'm

1083
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: so proud of you. He would be picking me up

1084
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: off the floor. Like his workouts were what forty five

1085
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: minutes if that? But like he's that guy. You start

1086
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: trying to make conversation, He's like, I know you're trying

1087
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: to do get back to it, like he puts, he

1088
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: puts you right back on that. But I mean he

1089
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: got me in this great shape. Yeah, I obviously, like

1090
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: I love working with him. He was awesome, such a

1091
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: genuine guy, knows what he's talking about. And then mentally

1092
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 1: for the show, I just had to tell myself, Okay,

1093
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: you're going in alone, so you need to like you

1094
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: need to just understand, like how are you going to

1095
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: make sense of everything around you? And that's where I

1096
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: took to like the journaling and just taking time to

1097
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: like sit there and at night and kind of just

1098
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: stare up at the sailing and let my thoughts just

1099
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: run wild. I just had to make sure I put

1100
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: certain things in place so that I was ready for

1101
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: what was to come, which I realized, no matter how

1102
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: much I prepared, I was never going to be able

1103
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: to be fully ready for what was about to come.

1104
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: By way, you can try and prep as much as

1105
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: you want. You can talk to past bachelors. For any

1106
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: advice as much as you want, but nothing is ever

1107
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: the same each season. You really have no idea what

1108
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: to expect. All right, clean, I have one last question

1109
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: for you before we get into our game, and that

1110
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: is night one as the Bachelor. Did you have your

1111
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: top four in mind? Like, did you know, Okay, these

1112
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: are going to be my girls, there's somebody here for me? No? No,

1113
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: I remember Night one. I thought I was very confident

1114
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: about probably ten or twelve and that's okay, that mean

1115
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: like that was my number. That's how that's how impressed

1116
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: I was by the women. I remember being like, okay,

1117
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: there's ten or twelve of these women that I could

1118
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: see any one of them potentially being the one. I

1119
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: knew there was gonna be so much discussion that would

1120
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: have to have and so many experiences and interactions that

1121
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: would occur. But Night one, like, yeah, I mean, for

1122
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good to be just right

1123
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: straight off the bat one conversation or like just initial introductions.

1124
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: I felt very very good about pye ten, twelve, damn okay, wow.

1125
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you for like your top three,

1126
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 1: because usually that's what carry the stylist would ask every

1127
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: every season, but ten or twelve, all right, we gotta over.

1128
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. At least you were set.

1129
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: That's good. You know it's a good place. I realized.

1130
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: I knew I was in a good place. But I

1131
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: was like, okay, if it's this many night one, you

1132
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: got your work cut out for you. And I did.

1133
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: I definitely did. I love it all right, Okay, we

1134
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: love our games at batch or happy hour, so we

1135
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: are going to play a little game. It's basically it's

1136
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: going to be a basic ass rapid fire. Okay, because

1137
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: again so many people still really want to get to

1138
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: know you, but we just have to start with the basics.

1139
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: So basically, Serena and I are going to give you

1140
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: a question and you just a sut whatever comes to mind.

1141
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: Rabbit Fire is like the hardest thing for me because,

1142
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: as you guys have seen, I talked so much, but

1143
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: I'll do you have my best effort. It's like it

1144
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: confines me to a box. I think, I like, this

1145
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: is not going to be in his element. He's gonna

1146
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: want to explain every answer I can already clean. You

1147
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: were like me, we just like to talk. I get it.

1148
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: I get it. Okay, So to kick it off. It's

1149
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: gonna be very basic, basic ass, rapid fire. Okay, what

1150
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: is your favorite color? Red? Oh? Dogs or cats? Dogs?

1151
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: Jeans are sweats? Sweats? Okay? What is your drink of choice?

1152
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: Imagine alcoholic? Is that what we're talking about? Sure, let's

1153
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: go alcohol Manhattan, oh, says the guy who ordered what

1154
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels on the Rocks. When I did, I did,

1155
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: but then I got had the Manhattan after I liked

1156
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: it a lot. And now back on the because Thomas

1157
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: gave you shit. That's I know he did. Sometimes I

1158
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: need people to give me some ship for me to

1159
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: get me back on the encourse. He's just expanding your horizons,

1160
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: just like the Bapster did. Okay, what toppings do you

1161
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: like on your pizza? Toppings? Okay? Uh? Sausage, pepperoni, Uh, bacon? Okay.

1162
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: What was the first concert you went to? Uh? In sync?

1163
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna have to at some point, I'm gonna

1164
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: have to like explain that one. But I end up,

1165
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: I'll say real quickly, I end up crying because I

1166
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: was like twelve years old and my aunt brought me.

1167
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: I was the only guy there and I cried. I

1168
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: was like, why am I the only guy here. I

1169
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: didn't realized. I didn't realize I was in heaven at

1170
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: the time, but I was twelve. Oh my god, I'm

1171
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: so jealous. Okay, Well, speaking of music, what is your

1172
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: go to karaoke song? Uh? Oh gosh, it could be

1173
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: any country song. I think when She Comes Home Tonight

1174
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: by Riley Green. Okay. I thought it was gonna be

1175
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: tearing up my heart by in Sick, but we'll go

1176
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: with country. I've been on a country kick. I feel

1177
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: like I know the answer to this next one. Well,

1178
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: what is your favorite chee day meal? There we go always?

1179
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: How many times can we plugged Chipotle? So we all

1180
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: get it's hard? Okay? Chipotle, bats are Happy Hour, loves you,

1181
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: endorse us, hit us up. That's all right, I'll plug

1182
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: it too much. No, we gotta plug it more. Serena,

1183
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: okay clean? Are you a night owl or an early riser?

1184
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: Early riser? All right? Favorite way to work up a sweat?

1185
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: Were working out? Well, we're gonna go kind of get

1186
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: I know. I was like I thought, but the original

1187
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: thought popped in my head. I said, Nope, not there.

1188
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: What are your three quality is that you look for

1189
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: in a romantic partner, honesty, transparency and just being funny,

1190
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: good ones, any guilty pleasures rather than Chipotle. I've messed

1191
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: this before. Like, I like candles, so I don't I

1192
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: like kind of just lighting up some candles and yeah,

1193
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: just and relaxing. Nice. How old were you when you

1194
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: had your first kiss? Oh? That thanks you back. It

1195
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: was seventh grade and I remember I kissed with my

1196
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 1: hands behind my back. I was so nervous I didn't

1197
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: even put my hands on her. It was the most

1198
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: awkward kiss and she told everybody the next day at

1199
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: school that I was a terrible kisser. It was it hurt. Oh,

1200
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: you've come a long way from kissing the hands behind

1201
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: the back to being the bad storm kissing thirty women. Yeah,

1202
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: you make it. I'm glad they're Yeah. So I've heard

1203
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: people don't like the kissing noises. That's the whole other conversation. Sorry,

1204
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: I can't control that one. Well, they can turn their

1205
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: volume down. Do you want kids someday? Yes? Who is

1206
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: your best friend from Boucher Nation? Brandon? And last, but

1207
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: not least, do you believe in aliens? Oh? What a

1208
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: closing question? And I can't explain indetail oh my gosh,

1209
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: because I want Yeah, I believe in extra extraterrestrial life.

1210
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: Do I think it's intelligent? I don't know, I'll believe

1211
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: it that. Okay, Okay, Actually I have one more question

1212
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: that's not here written down, but I need to ask

1213
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: it because somebody asked me this and it was so good.

1214
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: What is something about you that people know about you

1215
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: that you wish they didn't Oh? Man, well, I'm like

1216
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: an open book. So everything I say it just like

1217
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: it's like I throw it out there regardless, something that

1218
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: people know I wish they didn't know. I don't know.

1219
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll say the freestyle rapping, because now everybody wants

1220
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: me to rap on their like in podcast or in interviews,

1221
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it was mainly a joke. Although my teammates,

1222
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: my teammates in college and when I briefly was an

1223
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: NFL people back me up like I brought it, Like

1224
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: I definitely brought the energy. But now it's like it's

1225
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: people like they expect me to be really good. I'm like,

1226
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: I didn't sound it was good at freestyle and I

1227
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: just said I'd like to do it. Do you want

1228
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: to do? You want to do it? Right? Now see

1229
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: now was coming get on cameo and people. Yeah, birthday raps,

1230
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: they can order Christmas raps, Valentine's Day raps. Oh, I

1231
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: can bring it. Yeah, I get if I get to

1232
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: pick my own beats. Yeah, those are big words for

1233
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: somebody who keeps saying they can bring it and then

1234
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: they won't do it on our podcast. I'm a little

1235
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: bit offended the story and I was. I was viving

1236
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: with it. It was pretty good. Okay, thank you. Yeah,

1237
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: I thought that was decent. I had brought that out

1238
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: the wood works after shelving it for for a year

1239
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: or two, Like I used to bust it out a

1240
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: lot more of it. I'm happing. You know, we're going

1241
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: to have you on Boucher Happier or again, I'm sure

1242
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: for the finale, So be prepared you we're going to

1243
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: have to freestyle rap with categories of our choosing okay,

1244
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: all your season really, Oh my gosh, that's like for

1245
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: good rappers. Good rappers can do that. Here, we'll prep

1246
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: you a good well, I'll send them to you in advance. Yeah,

1247
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: we'll ask we will ask our followers for different category suggestions,

1248
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: and then we'll each pick two that you have to

1249
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: wrap too. Okay, you got a couple of weeks, so

1250
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: you got time, Todd. Are you guys going to beat

1251
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: box for me? Oh yeah, well we will work the beatbox. Okay,

1252
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: if you guys beat if you guys beat box or

1253
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: get me just any type of beat. I cannot do it. Acapella,

1254
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: please do put me through that. We can do it.

1255
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: It was like, I'm not part of this. I will

1256
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: throw it up on YouTube. It's a team efforts. If

1257
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna put me on the spot, we're putting you

1258
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: guys on the spot. Okay, okay, we're all in this

1259
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: to get on the side. We're gonna be having a

1260
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: traditional Oh my schedule will be blocked off. Clayton, this

1261
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: has been such a pleasure having you on. I'm glad

1262
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: that we just got to know you so much more,

1263
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: how you're handling this new world that you found yourself

1264
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: in social media, all of that. Before we let you go,

1265
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: we ask all of our guests this, it's our number

1266
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: one burning question so far. What has been your rose

1267
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: and what has been your thorn as your time as

1268
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: the bachelor? So, oh gosh, it's like pretty reflective, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It could be fine. It can be light or I

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01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: would say, yeah. The rose would be everyone that I've

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Speaker 1: met along the way has truly impacted me in a

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Speaker 1: way where I am forever thankful and I've grown so

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Speaker 1: much as an individual, and so that's definitely the rose.

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Speaker 1: The thorn would be my curiosity, which will kill me

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01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: at some point if I don't step step away from

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01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: everything and just take a breather. Yes, good ones, good ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Clayton, thank you for joining us. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to have you back. Can't we to just watch

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01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: you as your story unfolds. Yes, we are thoroughly enjoying

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01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: your season. And I know that there are so many

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01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: trolls out there, but just know that you have two

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01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: huge fans right here. Well, thank you so much. It's

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01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: so fun talking to you all. I obviously ran out

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01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: of time. We're all long winded for the most part,

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Speaker 1: so I'm sure I'll talk to you guys again. But

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Speaker 1: thank you guys. It was really fun. Thanks Clayton, good

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01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: to see you. Thanks Clayton, A yell again, I mean

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Speaker 1: next time. Oh, he is such a pleasure. See this

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01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: is I hope people listening in enjoy these sorts of podcasts,

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01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: because now you can't say you don't know who Clayton is.

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01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: We just handed him. Do you want to platter people?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've met him before, I've watched this season,

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01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: but I feel like just in this last hour, we

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01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: have learned so much more about him. He is his

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01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: thoughts on the drama this season, and I like him

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01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: even more now I do too, and he what I

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01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: like after chatting with him is you know, yeah, he's

1298
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: been getting backlash and he's been having to deal with

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01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: people saying some terrible things. But he seems so self aware,

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01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: Like he seems he recognizes issues or areas maybe in

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01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: which he didn't perform at his best, or he would

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01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: have done something different, but he realizes that and he's like,

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01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: I would have done that differently, or I take myself

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01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: or I hold myself accountable for that whatever it might be,

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01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 1: which is I think very refreshing because enough people don't

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01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: do that, I would say. So it seems like he's

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01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: taking this all in stride. I know it's not easy

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01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: to be going through what he's going through, especially when

1309
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: the season is so early on. I mean, we still

1310
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: have weeks to see this entire journey with him and

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01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: all of these women. So there's a lot more that

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01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: we still have yet to learn. Serena, I want to

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01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: wrap this up by asking you, because we always ask

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Speaker 1: our guests this, but I feel like we should just

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Speaker 1: start answering it on our own too because it's so important.

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Speaker 1: But so far this season, what has been your rose

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01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: and what has been your thorn? Oof? That's a toughie, Okay,

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01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: let me think I'll start with the thorn. I think

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01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: the moment this season that really impacted me in a

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01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: negative way the most was watching Cheney talk very openly

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Speaker 1: and negatively about Elizabeth's ADHD. That was really disappointing to watch.

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01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: And I hope that she has watched it back and

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Speaker 1: reflected and learned from that. And again shout out to Elizabeth.

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01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: I know I talked about her last him on the podcast,

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01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: but she handled that so well. And then I think,

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Speaker 1: my rose, I'm gonna have to go. And I know

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Speaker 1: that this is kind of like not fully a moment

1328
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: on the show, but I just love the memes this season.

1329
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: I love every season, but like we're episode two, the

1330
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: show has been so wild already and the memes have

1331
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: been popping off. I meanter now, so like I'm scrolling

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01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: through as well, and oh my gosh, it's just it's

1333
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: just chaos already. It is it is castle already. I

1334
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: would have to agree about the thorn. I definitely would

1335
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: have to say just seeing the conversation between Shane and

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth about the ADHD has been it was very disheartening,

1337
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: but I hope again everyone can learn. I would also

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01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: say overall a thorn, So I'm just gonna leave it

1339
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: the same as you and I would say my rose

1340
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: right now is just it seems like it's a lot

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01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: of firsts again. And I will say because it seems

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01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: like we're finally back at the mansion. There's like this

1343
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: new zest in the group of women when they finally

1344
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: move in, and it's Clayton's first time there, it's really

1345
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: his first time watching any of this back. It just

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01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: it seems like there's like these special magical moments that

1347
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: I feel like we were kind of like a missing energy. Yeah,

1348
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, we have a new host who's bringing this

1349
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: whole new life to the show as well, which has

1350
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: been fun. So I would say that it is just

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun first and I feel like the

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Speaker 1: show's kind of coming back to what it once was,

1353
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: which I appreciate. Yeah. So, ladies and gents, thank you

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Speaker 1: all for tuning in again this week. Thank you for

1355
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: being with me again, Serena. It's always such a blast

1356
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: with you. I absolutely love it. And an even bigger

1357
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: thank you to all of our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners.

1358
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: We couldn't do this each and every week without you.

1359
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: And I know I've said this before, but a reminder

1360
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: that we are still casting for the seasons of Bachelor

1361
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: and Bacherette. So if you want to nominate for yourself

1362
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: or anybody that you know that you think would be

1363
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 1: great for the show, you can head to boucher nation

1364
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: dot com slash apply. Also make sure to hit us

1365
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: up on social. You can find us at Bachelor Happy

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: Hour on Instagram and from there you'll find everything you

1367
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: need to know to follow us on Twitter as well

1368
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,280
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1369
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,040
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01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,200
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Speaker 1: an Apple Podcasts or the Wondering app. Thank you so

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01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: much again for having me Becca. Thank you to our

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01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: wonderful guest Clayton. He was such a great time to

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Speaker 1: interview and thank you to our listeners. We are excited

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Speaker 1: to see you next week, Bie guys. M